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breaks int he middle of a macro? 00.16.52 # if so i'd be tempted to add some and only ifdef the default 00.16.58 # you can 00.17.14 # hmm actually 00.17.36 # yeah i think it works, let me try 00.17.57 # is that really any better though? 00.18.00 # IMO its less clear 00.18.33 # i dunno, i prefer not to duplicate the other bits 00.18.39 # * Torne shrugs. 00.19.25 # just looking at it i think its ugly, but gcc is happy enough to compile it 00.20.00 # i guess defining DEFAULT_DIRCACHE_SETTING is probably better anyway 00.20.39 # Yeah, maybe :) 00.21.03 # Oh, if someone has an idea for how to have a default setting change depending on runtime detection of things, please speak up! 00.21.13 # hehe 00.21.16 Quit daggett (Quit: Ex-Chat) 00.21.54 # gevaerts: add a callback that is run on bootup 00.22.25 # where? 00.22.26 # http://pastebin.com/V0DBcZVt 00.22.35 # although i wonder if this should really be in the per device config files 00.22.44 # so individual maintainers can control the setting 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issue exists), but in general I'd expect the defaults to be ROM-able 00.44.44 # hmm, yes the default value is just a field in the settings_list struct and making that a function pointer that would call a function for each setting would be pretty wasteful and cumbersome 00.45.46 # maybe make it a function pointer only where it makes sense (when a flag is set that field is a function pointer, otherwise it's a value? 00.47.14 # it's already kind of used that way to store pointers to deafult strings for text setting afaict 00.48.50 # If the table is in RAM, patching it just after boot is of course an option 00.49.24 # heh, see settings_list.c:678 00.50.27 Join Guinness [0] (Slayer@c-68-55-111-159.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 00.50.41 # (some setting already use a runtime determined default) 00.51.28 # oh 00.51.48 # and reset_settings() calls that func if F_DEF_ISFUNC flag is set, this works just like i suggested it would :) 00.52.12 # Then it's easy-ish 00.52.24 # so the table is still const 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notes: i have the same problem as telliott with 16gb card not recognized but after fiddling around i got the card working 2 times. looks like its a timing issue anywhere 04.46.27 # (sansa fuze 2) 04.48.55 # Hmm.. I had issues with a microsd card on e200 recently. Could be coincidence 04.49.26 # which card type/size? my problem card is a 16gb sandisk class 4 04.50.03 Quit sasquatch (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2) 04.50.15 Quit MethoS- (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.50.23 Join telliott [0] (~Tim@d27-96-170-180.evv.wideopenwest.com) 04.50.29 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@p4FF2D9AA.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.52.04 # 8gb kingston iirc 04.54.09 Quit mortalscan (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.56.37 # ok so its at least no specific type 04.59.34 Join The_Pwny [0] (~IceChat7@220-244-203-228.tpgi.com.au) 05.00.15 Quit xxcv (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 05.16.32 Quit t0rc (Quit: Give someone code, help them with one project. Teach someone to code, help them rule the world.) 05.16.39 Join Apocryphite [0] (~7c6689a1@giant.haxx.se) 05.16.58 # Hi guys 05.17.13 # are people active in this channel? 05.18.24 # I guess not :( 05.19.41 # My problem is that, for some godawful reason, when I run the RocboxUtility installer, it opens up in Japanese. I am in Japan right now, but I don't understand the language! 05.19.58 # And I am not really interested in a device I can't navigate either 05.20.29 # So I would really appreciate a way of choosing the language somewhere. Maybe it exists, but since I can't read japanese, well. 05.23.26 # fixed it, changed my time/date format to english 05.23.37 # keep on truckin' guys 05.23.39 Quit Apocryphite (Quit: CGI:IRC) 05.29.39 Quit krabador (Quit: Sto andando via) 05.37.05 Join xxcv [0] (~null@c211-30-174-99.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 05.38.14 Quit anewuser (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 06.00.25 Nick Desk-Strife89 is now known as Strife89 (~Strife89@adsl-80-128-22.mcn.bellsouth.net) 06.07.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.13.41 Quit riotz_ (Read error: Operation timed out) 06.14.23 Join riotz [0] (riot33r@gateway/shell/shellium.org/x-jvcxapvneamtuoxr) 06.22.53 Quit InsDel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07.06.43 Quit telliott (Quit: Leaving) 07.12.58 Join fmipw [0] (~4c1f846b@giant.haxx.se) 07.13.05 # what up? 07.14.17 Quit fmipw (Client Quit) 07.17.25 Join Keripo1 [0] (~Keripo@eng258.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 07.18.51 Quit Keripo (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.33.38 Quit Horschti (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 07.37.41 Join Horschti [0] (~Horschti@xbmc/user/horscht) 07.42.02 Quit panni_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07.45.57 Quit The_Pwny (Quit: IceChat - Its what Cool People use) 08.07.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.17.25 Join mortalscan [0] (~mortalsca@109.169.55.155) 08.32.14 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4BDDE.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.33.31 Quit xxcv (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08.37.46 Quit zeleftikam (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.38.08 Join zeleftikam [0] (~zeleftika@unaffiliated/zeleftikam) 08.44.49 Join bmbl [0] (~bmbl@unaffiliated/bmbl) 08.55.24 Quit factor (Read error: Operation timed out) 08.56.56 Join factor [0] (~factor@r74-195-220-23.msk1cmtc02.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 08.57.16 Nick bmbl is now known as bimbel (~bmbl@unaffiliated/bmbl) 08.57.34 Nick bimbel is now known as bmbl (~bmbl@unaffiliated/bmbl) 09.13.21 Join Rob2223 [0] (~Miranda@p4FFF1447.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.16.57 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 09.18.00 Join xxcv [0] (~null@c211-30-174-99.carlnfd1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 09.18.59 Quit xxcv (Client Quit) 09.22.22 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.22.49 Join factor [0] (~factor@r74-195-220-23.msk1cmtc02.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 09.27.24 Join evilnick__ [0] (~evilnick@cpe-24-193-43-185.nyc.res.rr.com) 09.30.52 Quit evilnick_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09.38.18 Join {phoenix} [0] (~dirk@p57AA6E42.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.57.03 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote host closed the connection) 10.02.03 Join Kitr88 [0] (~Kitarist@BSN-182-115-70.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 10.04.29 Quit Kitar|st (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10.06.09 Quit Kitr88 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10.07.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.08.32 Join Kitar|st [0] (Kitarist@BSN-210-243-199.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 10.12.04 Quit {phoenix} (Remote host closed the connection) 10.21.02 Join bimbel [0] (~bmbl@dsl19-233.pool.bitel.net) 10.21.02 Quit bimbel (Changing host) 10.21.02 Join bimbel [0] (~bmbl@unaffiliated/bmbl) 10.22.26 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@dhcp-128-203.residence.ens-lyon.fr) 10.22.26 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 10.22.26 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 10.23.11 Quit bmbl (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 10.24.42 Join lixxus99 [0] (~lixxus@78-86-253-21.zone2.bethere.co.uk) 10.25.09 Part lixxus99 10.26.45 Nick bimbel is now known as bmbl (~bmbl@unaffiliated/bmbl) 10.30.04 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lem0n@ppp-197-135.98-62.inwind.it) 10.40.22 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 10.45.25 Quit antil33t (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 10.45.39 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 10.48.24 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 10.49.58 Join efyx [0] (~efyx@lap34-1-82-225-185-146.fbx.proxad.net) 10.50.29 Join antil33t [0] (~Mudkips@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 10.50.43 Join Kupop [0] (~Kupo@cpc2-bsfd7-2-0-cust220.5-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 10.51.28 Join Horscht [0] (~Horschti@xbmc/user/horscht) 10.54.02 Quit Horschti (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 10.58.37 Join ppawel [0] (~ppawel@host167.voltar.net.pl) 11.12.34 Join {phoenix} [0] (~dirk@p57AA6E42.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.15.06 Join marines [0] (~marines@marvin.uplink.cz) 11.23.06 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:7d0:0:f000::135d) 11.33.28 Quit {phoenix} (Remote host closed the connection) 11.34.14 Quit mystica555_ (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 11.37.37 # i just decided i want to try build the SDL interface, but i can't find it in the list of target platforms 11.37.46 # can't find much info on it at all, actually 11.38.52 # pick "Application" in configure 11.39.44 # ooh 11.39.57 # thanks :) 11.49.16 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@chello062178002170.1.11.univie.teleweb.at) 11.49.17 Quit dfkt (Changing host) 11.49.17 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 11.50.24 # ooh, rockbox can handle more than one display, right? 11.50.40 # yeah, a main display and a remote 11.51.01 # does the SDL interface support that too? 11.51.47 # depends on what you mean, really. The sims can simulate remote displays but i don't think it's enabled for the sdl app 11.52.54 # i just figured out this laptop has enough video memory to run built in and external video at full res independently 11.53.48 # it'll be only 256 colors but still 11.54.09 # you mean like an external vga display? 11.54.14 # yeal 11.54.17 # yeah* 11.54.45 # if you can get sdl to do it i'd guess that rockbox can use that as a remote 11.56.31 # i'm booting a live CD so i can check out the real specs but the intarweb suggests P2 266, 32M RAM, 4GB HDD 11.57.11 # what i really, really like about it is the built-in AC adapter though 11.57.26 # i wish more laptops would have that 11.57.37 # or at least as an options that plugs into a bay 11.59.35 # a 16 bit per pixel vga framebuffer should require only 600kB 12.02.28 # it says here the hardware can do XGA on the built in one and SXGA on the external connector 12.05.05 # those should still fit in ~4MB but why do you want such high res for a music player? 12.05.33 # not sure if it makes sense due to the slow proc 12.05.51 # but at least i know it can 12.06.02 # generally more screen real estate == better 12.06.15 # i can always downsize it if required 12.06.24 # but it'll just make the text smaller 12.07.00 # it'll fit more text on the screen 12.07.15 # its not a 3" music player, its a laptop 12.07.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.07.48 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 12.09.00 # it seems the largest display resolutions we use are 320*480 so you'll need to adapt a theme to make it look good and convert some big fonts probably 12.09.10 Quit markun (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.11.50 Join markun [0] (~markun@rockbox/developer/markun) 12.16.29 # hmmm its a P2-266 allright, but nicelky 64M RAM :) 12.16.43 # with 2M shared video buffer 12.27.31 # integrated display is XGA... with lots of awkward math >_> 12.32.09 # hmm, there's a bunch of upstream changes that have been done to tremor that we haven't merged 12.33.26 # n1s: we have a 480x800 theme also 12.33.37 # 320x480 isnt even close to being the biggest :) 12.33.41 # JdGordon: ah 12.34.32 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@p4FE8F47B.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.34.50 # since the android buids do so much differently from other builds, the info on them is harder to find 12.36.07 # wtf 12.36.25 # how come that the battery state on the SDL port changes?! 12.36.35 # even if the computer its running on is a regular desktop 12.36.50 # amee2k: probably a left over from the sims, it was made to change constantly 12.37.00 # oh, hm. 12.37.40 # as there is no battery in a sim it was usefull to check theme battery indicators, etc but should probably not happen in the application 12.38.15 # mmmh, the SDL sim complains "no codec for: ..." whatever i try to play 12.38.33 # the simulator i built works fine though 12.39.14 # i'd have to put in a hook for my semi-native setup so it reads the real battery state from the ACPI interface 12.39.14 # amee2k: do you run the app from the installed dir? 12.39.20 # yeah 12.39.41 # i built it much the same as the sim. create a build-sdl in the source tree, cd into that 12.39.50 # run ../tools/configure; make; ./rockbox 12.40.14 # and selecting 200) application as platform 12.40.50 Quit user890104 (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 12.41.19 # platform (s)dl, default screen size, (n)ormal build 12.42.03 # the SDL UI looks rather feature-devoid by default, which i quite like 12.42.23 # i'll try reconfigure for 640x480 and a couple other resolutions and see how it scales 12.43.11 # amee2k: but then you didn't install it at all so no wonder it can't find the codecs 12.43.39 # oh, you need to make fullinstall too? 12.43.46 # do a make install 12.43.50 # erm 12.43.57 # wtf does it try to do in my /usr/local?! 12.44.03 # install 12.44.08 # >_< 12.44.24 # this bit is different from the sims 12.44.25 # it can forget about getting root. how do i install someplace else? 12.45.39 # i suppose you can set it using configure or directly in the makefile 12.49.44 # hmmm whats RBDIR good for? is that the install dir? 12.50.42 # i don't know, the buildsystem scres me 12.51.03 # ooh, found it 12.51.40 # PREFIX=/where/stuff/goes ../tools/configure << this seems to work 12.52.18 # i used it like: PREFIX=$(pwd)/installdir 12.53.14 # i think configure should let you change that under the advanced options 12.53.52 Part marines 12.54.19 # hmm, when merging tremor upstream changes should i do one commit for each of their changesets or just all of them in one big? 12.57.43 # hmm. they dropped the internal ogg stuff and switched to use libogg instead, that will definitely be separate, i think 12.58.51 # mmmh, this is annoying 12.59.17 # its not picking up the codec dir on its own 13.01.13 # they usually go in /usr/local/lib/rockbox/codecs so maybe setting the prefix only changes where the main binary goes? or the binary is looking in the wrong place? 13.01.27 # no, they're there allright 13.01.32 # but its not picking them up 13.01.45 # it now segfaults too 13.04.53 # what is ROCKBOX_LIBRARY_PATH set to in your Makefile? 13.05.36 # export ROCKBOX_LIBRARY_PATH=/home/thomas/Desktop/ipod/rockbox/build-sdl/installdir/lib 13.05.54 # thats $PREFIX/lib 13.07.13 Join DerPapst1 [0] (~Alexander@p4FE8F47B.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.09.08 Join {phoenix} [0] (~dirk@p57AA6E42.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.10.32 Quit DerPapst (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13.12.50 # something is sooo screwed up with this build right now >_< 13.17.06 Quit zeleftikam (Quit: Leaving) 13.23.50 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 13.30.35 # hmm, switching tremor to libogg would probably be quite painless 13.30.52 Join aevin [0] (eivindsy@unaffiliated/aevin) 13.32.59 Quit aevin (Remote host closed the connection) 13.33.25 # i wonder if speex should switch too then 13.33.36 Join bluebroth3r [0] (~dom@f053155225.adsl.alicedsl.de) 13.33.37 Quit bluebroth3r (Changing host) 13.33.37 Join bluebroth3r [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 13.33.37 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 13.38.48 Join aevin [0] (eivindsy@unaffiliated/aevin) 13.59.39 # New commit by 03nls (r28732): libtremor: merge upstream revision 17374 and some inline/icode tweaks to maintain speed. 14.01.56 # r28732 build result: All green 14.05.59 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 14.06.12 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 14.07.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.13.57 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.21.24 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 14.28.05 Quit markun (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.33.00 Join markun [0] (~markun@5ED33C2C.cm-7-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) 14.33.00 Quit markun (Changing host) 14.33.00 Join markun [0] (~markun@rockbox/developer/markun) 14.33.11 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-178-203-77-160.unitymediagroup.de) 14.37.14 Join user890104 [0] (~Venci@212.233.245.245) 14.43.27 Join rexim [0] (~rexim@91.204.184.177) 14.44.06 Quit rexim (Quit: Ухожу я от вас) 14.56.23 # New commit by 03gevaerts (r28733): Handle disk errors properly in USB storage driver. Fixes FS#10873 14.58.24 # r28733 build result: All green 15.12.06 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4BDDE.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.13.19 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 15.26.00 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 15.33.39 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 15.33.55 # JdGordon: I worked on your open() patch 15.50.55 Quit panni_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.54.55 Quit Kupop (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 16.07.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.24.21 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4BDDE.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.24.31 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 16.26.23 Quit bmbl (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.32.42 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Leaving for a while.) 16.39.02 Quit ppawel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16.45.58 Join Alchimysta [0] (~9752c4c0@giant.haxx.se) 16.45.59 Quit Alchimysta (Client Quit) 17.01.38 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@87-206-240-131.dynamic.chello.pl) 17.03.35 # I've got only one response to my mail about proposed i2c change. Should I assume it is ok than and start porting our i2c implementations to proposed framework? 17.13.09 Quit user890104 () 17.15.15 Join Alchimysta [0] (~9752c4c0@giant.haxx.se) 17.22.29 # AlexP: do you have ideas on when we should start thinking about 3.7.2? 17.28.50 Quit ReimuHakurei_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.28.50 Join ReimuHakurei__ [0] (~reimu@74.112.212.15) 17.31.31 Join Kupop [0] (~Kupo@cpc2-bsfd7-2-0-cust220.5-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 17.41.07 Join noamsml_ [0] (~noamsml@adsl-75-45-237-178.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 17.41.32 Quit noamsml (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 17.44.21 # JdGordon: I worked on your open() patch 17.44.23 # oops 17.46.33 # What is the cambiament of the fw 3.7.1 ? 17.46.41 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 17.49.00 Quit Alchimysta (Quit: CGI:IRC) 17.53.52 Quit saratoga (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 18.07.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.13.39 Join Alchimysta [0] (~9750c5ab@giant.haxx.se) 18.13.51 Join saratoga [0] (9803c6dd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.198.221) 18.16.23 # for what its worth, skipping tracks in the file browser does seem to be a lot faster on the fuze with dircache enabled 18.16.38 # though i'm at a loss as for an explanation of why that should be 18.17.02 # ram access is a lot faster than storage, even for flash 18.17.35 # shouldn't the current playlist be in RAM though? 18.17.57 # aside from actually buffering the tracks i'm surprised it has to access the disk to skip to the next song in a playlist 18.18.14 # if you select songs from the file browser then the current playlist is trashed and a new one is created (even if it's the same) 18.18.35 # i just loaded up the first song in a folder and then kept hitting 'next track' from the WPS 18.18.49 # How large are the files? 18.18.58 # 4-5MB mp3s 18.19.17 # ah so you skip in the playlist? 18.19.25 # yea I've noticed that too 18.19.52 # actually i'm not even sure the audio plays any sooner 18.19.57 # i think the WPS just updates quicker 18.20.05 # Alchimysta: What does "cambiament" mean? 18.20.20 # gevaerts: I guess it depends on when changes go in 18.20.21 # if I skip around in the playlist viewer the music comes sooner 18.20.45 # gevaerts: If something big like some fuzes not booting gets fixed, then immediately 18.20.54 # if i skip with dircache on it'll show ever track in the WPS even if I go quickly 18.21.11 # if i skip without dircache, it'll skip some tracks entirely because it updates the WPS too slowly to keep up 18.21.39 # anyone have a theory why that would be? 18.21.40 # Otherwise about the same time as between 3.7 and 3.7.1 (4 weeks or so) I would think 18.21.48 # is buffering somehow more efficient with dircache? 18.23.25 # tag lookup is quicker it seems 18.23.34 # tagcache_fill_tags() only works with dircache 18.23.40 # AlexP: yes. That would end up around christmas, which might be a bit of an awkward time to get everyone involved to have time :) 18.24.04 # true 18.24.22 # well, just before or after then, depending on what fixes have gone in 18.24.50 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 18.25.11 # kugel: ah i see that in playback.c, interesting 18.25.29 # maybe we should just enable dircache by default unconditionally for all targets with >2MB of RAM 18.26.16 # go for it 18.26.19 # :) 18.26.26 # how much ram have a sansa fuze? 18.26.34 # v1 or v2? 18.26.46 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 18.26.55 # they're both 8 MB 18.27.06 # thanks 18.27.39 # ah, I thought they were different, but I suspect I was just thinking of external vs internal 18.28.35 # its just the clipv1, m200v4, and c200v2 that have less ram 18.30.13 # Windows 3.0 is possible on sansa fuze? xD 18.30.25 # not x86 18.30.49 # ah... the cpu of sansa fuze is not x86? 18.30.53 # no 18.32.26 # uhm.. i don't understand 18.32.51 # x86 CPUs are used in PCs, not mp3 players 18.33.06 # amiconn: ping 18.33.20 # ah.. i understand xD 18.34.39 # the os used always x86? 18.35.22 # Windows for desktop computers is/was x86, yes 18.35.57 # Linux and Dos? 18.36.13 # This is off topic for here 18.36.32 # ok, excuse me 18.36.47 Quit {phoenix} (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.41.06 # the telechips NAND binary is pretty great, its just plain elf format, so you can objdump it and all the functions drop out 18.41.57 Join telliott [0] (~Tim@d27-96-170-180.evv.wideopenwest.com) 18.44.48 Quit Alchimysta (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 18.45.42 Join domonoky1 [0] (~Domonoky@agsb-4d048df4.pool.mediaWays.net) 18.46.57 Quit domonoky (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 18.50.37 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 19.17.23 # i don't get how these stupid filterbanks in mp3 work 19.17.31 # sometimes i'll make a tiny mistake and get a blast of static 19.17.50 # other times i'll be completely wrong and it'll still sound fine 19.18.21 Join anewuser [0] (anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 19.21.49 Quit telliott (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.22.15 Join telliott [0] (~Tim@d27-96-170-180.evv.wideopenwest.com) 19.27.26 # New commit by 03kugel (r28734): Android: Fix yellow 19.29.31 # r28734 build result: All green 19.36.19 Join Luca_S [0] (~52390ee4@giant.haxx.se) 19.37.41 # Has anyone here had a problem with the clip+ not recognizing 16GB microSD? 19.40.01 # yeah a few people reported that 19.41.08 Join ppawel [0] (~ppawel@host167.voltar.net.pl) 19.42.07 Join thegeek [0] (thegeek@138.199.71.3) 19.42.43 Quit thegeek (Client Quit) 19.44.31 Join toffe82 [0] (~chatzilla@adsl-70-235-224-175.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net) 19.45.49 Quit thegeek_ (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 19.46.10 # Anything I can do to help track down the problem? 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20.43.07 # What is your wiki name? 20.43.30 # GiovanniZilli 20.45.29 # OK, should be done 20.47.21 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.48.37 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-178-203-77-160.unitymediagroup.de) 20.48.44 Join slooopy [0] (~sloo@p5493C76B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 20.55.36 Join ReimuHakurei [0] (~reimu@74.112.212.15) 20.57.38 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: free(me)) 21.00.26 # thanks 21.21.13 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 21.22.09 Quit telliott (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.22.22 Join telliott [0] (~Tim@d27-96-170-180.evv.wideopenwest.com) 21.23.34 Quit slooopy (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.24.14 Join JesusFreak316 [0] (~JesusFrea@pool-173-65-30-16.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) 21.30.28 Join shai [0] (~Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 21.32.45 Join Xerion_ [0] (~xerion@54196686.cm-5-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl) 21.34.30 Quit giovanni (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.35.47 Quit Xerion (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 21.35.47 Nick Xerion_ is now known as Xerion (~xerion@54196686.cm-5-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl) 21.36.04 Quit timccc (Remote host closed the connection) 21.37.04 Join slooopy [0] (~sloo@p5493CFE3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.39.46 Join Topy [0] (~Topy44@f054162071.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.43.13 Quit T44 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 21.46.35 Join InsDel [0] (~haqr.net@unaffiliated/insdel) 21.47.39 # JdGordon: I got the open() patch to work, and it works well 21.48.09 # great 21.48.11 # commit :p 21.48.54 # but I noticed a problem (which I think also exists in svn), it doesn't work for plugin's data files 21.50.00 # wierd, it should 21.50.32 # PLUGIN_DIR doesn't have ROCKBOX_DIR in it. also, even if it did, once there's a rocks folder in the user path it'd make browsing plugins impossible 21.51.18 # it doesnt? and that isntt really a concern 21.52.03 # why would the user put rocks in the user path instead of the internal path? 21.52.09 # same problem as codec 21.52.23 # bbs 21.54.45 # JdGordon: I mean if a plugin puts data into /rockbox/rocks/, then it shadows /usr/local/lib/rockbox/rocks 21.56.09 Quit elcan (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.03.13 Join elcan [0] (user36@pr0.us) 22.06.40 # ah right 22.07.25 # well the other option is giving plugins a different right path completly 22.07.31 # or ignore it for now 22.07.31 Join MagusG [0] (magusg@c-71-59-57-46.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 22.07.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.27.01 # could it be that the SDL interface didn't exactly receive extensive debugging? 22.27.44 # amee2k: most definitely so, i'd say 22.28.18 # hehe 22.28.51 Quit ppawel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.39.29 Join Xerion_ [0] (~xerion@54196686.cm-5-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl) 22.40.35 Join edboyer93 [0] (~eboyer93@pool-71-185-65-59.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) 22.41.05 Quit Xerion (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 22.41.06 Nick Xerion_ is now known as Xerion (~xerion@54196686.cm-5-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl) 22.42.17 Quit InsDel (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 22.54.17 # AlexP: please ban c57222551 22.54.48 # o.O 22.55.20 # done 22.59.08 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: Bye ;)) 23.08.34 Nick noamsml_ is now known as noamsml (~noamsml@adsl-75-45-237-178.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 23.14.39 # \o/ 23.18.00 # * amee2k rolls kugel around the channel 23.18.02 # ^_^ 23.18.23 # I finally got our threading engine to work with ucontext_t 23.18.33 # that means we can get rid of sdl threads 23.19.03 # oh, you're working on the SDL port? 23.19.11 # a bit 23.19.16 # :) 23.19.21 # I'm working on RaaA more generally 23.19.56 # Regional Aviation Association of Australia ? 23.20.28 # oh 23.20.32 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxAsAnApplication2010 << this one? 23.23.32 # yes 23.26.31 # hmmm where is the point in getting rid of SDL? 23.26.44 # using native stuff is better 23.27.22 # but less portable. i understood from the wiki page that portability is an objective, no? 23.28.00 # kugel is working on Android 23.28.49 # amee2k: it doesn't reduce portability 23.33.13 # not sure if you've followed the recent conversation between Torne, n1s and me... i'm toying with the idea of putting an embedded linux together 23.33.35 # that can more or less run the SDL application port as it is 23.34.01 # the subtle difference to your project being that its supposed to take over the machine entirely 23.34.49 # i.e. function as its primary UI 23.37.14 # is there some way i can make a c array of 3 byte elements (e.g. to step one 24 bit sample at a time) 23.38.34 # amee2k: I ran the SDL port on the framebuffer (on my development board), it works 23.40.02 # saratoga: yes, char array[][3], array++ will skip 3 bytes then 23.41.48 # gevaerts: I suppose we won't need pth threads now that I can make our threading work directly with swapcontext 23.42.09 Join mystica555_ [0] (~mike@c-75-70-179-25.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 23.42.20 # (gnu pth isn't any more portable than swapcontext IIUC) 23.42.22 Quit Beta2K (Quit: leaving) 23.43.01 Quit kevku (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.2 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) 23.44.56 Quit slooopy (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 23.46.36 # kugel: what kernel / OS did you use under it? 23.47.15 # linux 2.6.32 (emdebian) 23.47.24 # hm. 23.48.57 # i've taken a look at emdebian for another project a while ago and didn't really make heads or tails of it 23.49.42 # it was a pain to set up, but once it runs it works well 23.50.34 # what kinda left me stuck is that it apparently only comes with a 686 kernel, but that wouldn't run on a pentium (P5 isa) 23.53.11 # (and it didn't exactly live up to the promise of size reduction either... i ended up getting a larger flash card and running vanilla debian)