--- Log for 14.12.110 Server: anthony.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 9 days and 23 hours ago 00.00.09 # That was never the point of the patch 00.00.26 Quit leavittx (Remote host closed the connection) 00.00.48 Quit kugel (Remote host closed the connection) 00.01.20 # The point was to have a single smart binary 00.03.31 # ok. My comment was only about the usefulness of theme resizing. Would the binary be able to pick e.g. the correct cabbiev2.320x480x16 ? I'm a bit curious as I might get an android phone in the near futre 00.03.44 # with the patch, of course 00.04.52 # Yes. The setting in the config would be wps: cabbie.wps and it loads the correct one based on the screen size if cabbie.wps isn't there 00.05.07 # It won't try to resize a samme 00.05.13 # Smaller version 00.05.51 # ah, sounds ok 00.06.54 # I picked on you because of the resizing thing. It does actually have some big problems which I'm surprised kugel didn't mention 00.07.24 Quit captainkewlll (Quit: Page closed) 00.08.23 Quit casainho (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.10.48 Join designate72 [0] (~aaron@adsl-065-013-002-216.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 00.10.49 # hmmm doesn't RB have a battery benchmark mode? 00.11.38 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 00.11.47 Quit JdGord (Quit: Bye) 00.11.50 # it has a battery_bench plugin 00.11.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.13.18 # ooh 00.13.21 # explains why i can't find it 00.16.43 Join casainho [0] (~chatzilla@2.81.156.5) 00.17.13 # cool, its benching. thanks pixelma :) 00.19.06 Quit [Saint] (Quit: I'm only going to Heaven if it feels like Hell, I'm only going to Heaven if it tastes like caramel...) 00.22.08 Quit InsDel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.23.18 Join [Saint] [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.253) 00.25.26 Quit [Saint] (Client Quit) 00.27.35 Quit jgarvey (Quit: Leaving) 00.29.10 Join [Saint] [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.26) 00.37.40 Quit bertrik (Quit: :tiuQ) 00.43.08 Quit liar (Quit: Leaving) 00.48.00 Join b0hoon [0] (~quassel@46.134.56.3) 00.49.05 Quit [Saint] (Quit: I'm only going to Heaven if it feels like Hell, I'm only going to Heaven if it tastes like caramel...) 00.51.50 # New commit by 03b0hoon (r28828): HDD6330: speedup lcd_blit_yuv() function (~4%). 00.53.49 # r28828 build result: All green 00.56.37 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Remote host closed the connection) 00.57.06 Part b0hoon ("GTG. Bye.") 00.58.16 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (~bjohnson@c-24-118-162-123.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 01.01.08 Join chattr [0] (~mike@244.87.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com) 01.01.08 Join evilnick__ [0] (~evilnick@cpe-24-193-43-185.nyc.res.rr.com) 01.02.44 Join fdinel [0] (~Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 01.03.17 Quit evilnick_ (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 01.07.16 Join evilnick_ [0] (~evilnick@cpe-24-193-43-185.nyc.res.rr.com) 01.09.13 Quit evilnick__ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 01.14.49 Quit casainho (Remote host closed the connection) 01.26.53 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 01.59.17 Quit Kitr88 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 02.03.02 Quit efyx (Remote host closed the connection) 02.04.44 Join Kitar|st [0] (~Kitarist@BSN-182-97-176.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 02.07.07 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.53=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 02.12.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.12.47 Join ender [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 02.13.29 Quit Strife1989 (Quit: Logging off) 02.14.21 Quit ender` (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.30.04 Quit ender (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.30.40 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 02.37.26 Quit burn (Read error: Operation timed out) 02.37.42 Join antil33t4 [0] (antil33t@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 02.37.45 Quit antil33t (Disconnected by services) 02.37.45 Join burn [0] (~burn@cl-1079.bru-01.be.sixxs.net) 02.47.48 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 02.50.35 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@f049130021.adsl.alicedsl.de) 02.50.40 Join ender [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 02.50.58 Quit ender` (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.53.59 Quit Topy (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.55.19 Join [Saint] [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.2.14) 02.57.41 Quit burn (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 02.58.52 Join burn [0] (~burn@cl-1079.bru-01.be.sixxs.net) 03.23.07 Quit edboyer93 () 03.27.49 Quit linuxguy3 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 03.28.56 Join linuxguy3 [0] (~timj@adsl-75-57-165-250.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 03.36.37 Quit ReimuHakurei (Quit: Stand by, Ready!) 03.36.38 Join Topy [0] (~Topy44@f048197185.adsl.alicedsl.de) 03.36.52 Join ReimuHakurei [0] (~reimu@74.112.212.15) 03.37.03 Quit T44 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03.37.55 Join InsDel [0] (~haqr.net@unaffiliated/insdel) 03.45.36 Join froggyman_ [0] (~seth@98.115.0.7) 03.45.53 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (~rmenes@rockbox/staff/LambdaCalculus37) 03.46.23 Quit froggyman_ (Client Quit) 03.46.56 Join froggyman_ [0] (~seth@98.115.0.7) 03.47.18 Nick froggyman_ is now known as froggyman (~seth@98.115.0.7) 03.47.25 Quit froggyman (Changing host) 03.47.25 Join froggyman [0] (~seth@unaffiliated/froggyman) 03.52.13 # * LambdaCalculus37 is going to give FS#7505 another try 04.04.30 Quit InsDel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.10.55 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 04.12.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.14.24 Quit tchan1 (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 04.22.46 Quit designate72 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 04.24.39 Join froggyman_ [0] (~seth@98.115.0.7) 04.25.18 Quit froggyman_ (Client Quit) 04.25.47 Join froggyman_ [0] (~seth@98.115.0.7) 04.26.01 Nick froggyman is now known as Guest63035 (~seth@unaffiliated/froggyman) 04.26.53 Nick froggyman_ is now known as froggyman (~seth@98.115.0.7) 04.27.00 Quit froggyman (Changing host) 04.27.00 Join froggyman [0] (~seth@unaffiliated/froggyman) 04.27.44 Quit Guest63035 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 04.29.41 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.29.41 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.29.41 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.29.43 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.29.46 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.29.59 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.39.03 Join Barahir [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590f70b4.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.39.25 Quit grndslm (Quit: Leaving) 04.39.46 Join JesusFreak316 [0] (~JesusFrea@pool-173-65-30-16.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) 04.41.52 Join kkit|sh [0] (krazykit@silenceisdefeat.com) 04.42.57 Quit Barahir_ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 04.46.40 Quit panni_ (Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )) 04.56.01 Quit sasquatch (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2) 04.56.28 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@p4FF2CC12.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.57.55 Quit froggyman (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.58.19 Join froggyman [0] (~seth@98.115.0.7) 04.58.27 Quit froggyman (Changing host) 04.58.27 Join froggyman [0] (~seth@unaffiliated/froggyman) 05.25.02 Quit LambdaCalculus37 (Quit: Fwump) 05.37.50 Join Loto_ [0] (~nfs@S01060012171a84e3.no.shawcable.net) 05.38.02 Join miceh [0] (~mtq@h1439481.stratoserver.net) 05.38.27 Quit Rondom (Disconnected by services) 05.38.49 Join Rondom_ [0] (~rondom@lvps178-77-79-47.dedicated.hosteurope.de) 05.39.14 Join Stummi_ [0] (Stummi@rockbox/developer/Stummi) 05.39.31 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 05.39.44 Quit froggyman (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 05.40.26 Join ved_ [0] (ved@ddsbox.co.cc) 05.41.00 Join froggyman [0] (~seth@98.115.0.7) 05.41.00 Quit froggyman (Changing host) 05.41.00 Join froggyman [0] (~seth@unaffiliated/froggyman) 05.41.07 Nick Loto_ is now known as Loro (~nfs@S01060012171a84e3.no.shawcable.net) 05.42.27 Join ack` [0] (~ack@mingbai.org) 05.42.57 Join CIA-45 [0] (~CIA@208.69.182.149) 05.43.25 Join Ypsy_ [0] (~ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 05.44.20 Join soap_ [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 05.44.39 Join tchan1 [0] (~tchan@c-69-243-144-187.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 05.49.13 Quit JdGordon| (Quit: leaving) 05.50.27 Quit Loro (Quit: Loro) 05.50.45 Join Loro [0] (~nfs@S01060012171a84e3.no.shawcable.net) 05.51.59 Quit miceh (*.net *.split) 05.51.59 Quit [Saint] (*.net *.split) 05.52.00 Quit Keripo (*.net *.split) 05.52.00 Quit timccc (*.net *.split) 05.52.00 Quit simonrvn (*.net *.split) 05.52.00 Quit _jhMikeS_ (*.net *.split) 05.52.00 Quit pjm0616 (*.net *.split) 05.52.00 Quit crwl (*.net *.split) 05.52.00 Quit zu (*.net *.split) 05.52.00 Quit literal (*.net *.split) 05.52.00 Quit amiconn (*.net *.split) 05.52.00 Quit pixelma (*.net *.split) 05.52.00 Quit ReimuHakurei (*.net *.split) 05.52.01 Quit JdGordon (*.net *.split) 05.52.01 Quit Guest24228 (*.net *.split) 05.52.01 Quit GodEater (*.net *.split) 05.52.01 Quit Battousai (*.net *.split) 05.52.01 Quit MagusG (*.net *.split) 05.52.01 Quit Hadaka (*.net *.split) 05.52.01 Quit mikroflops (*.net *.split) 05.52.02 Quit rasher (*.net *.split) 05.52.02 Quit parafin (*.net *.split) 05.52.02 Quit Horscht (*.net *.split) 05.52.02 Quit user890104 (*.net *.split) 05.52.02 Quit mystica555_ (*.net *.split) 05.52.02 Quit krazykit (*.net *.split) 05.52.02 Quit cozmic (*.net *.split) 05.52.03 Quit ps-auxw (*.net *.split) 05.52.03 Quit Zambezi (*.net *.split) 05.52.03 Quit saratoga (*.net *.split) 05.52.04 Quit Zarggg (*.net *.split) 05.52.04 Quit TheSeven (*.net *.split) 05.52.04 Quit bluebroth3r (*.net *.split) 05.52.04 Quit mordocai (*.net *.split) 05.52.04 Quit scorche (*.net *.split) 05.52.04 Quit aevin (*.net *.split) 05.52.04 Quit logiclost (*.net *.split) 05.52.05 Quit merbanan (*.net *.split) 05.52.05 Quit Torne (*.net *.split) 05.52.05 Quit ved_ (*.net *.split) 05.52.05 Quit Rondom_ (*.net *.split) 05.52.05 Quit burn (*.net *.split) 05.52.05 Quit antil33t4 (*.net *.split) 05.52.06 Quit mc2739 (*.net *.split) 05.52.06 Quit Galois (*.net *.split) 05.52.06 Quit Bagder (*.net *.split) 05.52.06 Quit TBCOOL (*.net *.split) 05.52.06 Quit Slasheri (*.net *.split) 05.52.06 Quit bzed (*.net *.split) 05.52.08 Quit Utchy (*.net *.split) 05.52.08 Quit ack (*.net *.split) 05.52.08 Quit soap (*.net *.split) 05.52.08 Quit Stummi (*.net *.split) 05.52.08 Quit Loto (*.net *.split) 05.52.08 Quit fred_2 (*.net *.split) 05.52.08 Quit m|c (*.net *.split) 05.52.09 Quit ved (*.net *.split) 05.52.09 Quit jordan` (*.net *.split) 05.52.09 Quit CIA-7 (*.net *.split) 05.52.09 Quit YPSY (*.net *.split) 05.52.09 Quit Barahir (*.net *.split) 05.52.09 Quit ender (*.net *.split) 05.52.09 Quit Kitar|st (*.net *.split) 05.52.09 Quit evilnick_ (*.net *.split) 05.52.09 Quit fdinel (*.net *.split) 05.52.09 Quit Dreamxtreme (*.net *.split) 05.52.10 Quit balintx (*.net *.split) 05.52.10 Quit Guinness (*.net *.split) 05.52.10 Quit kkit|sh (*.net *.split) 05.52.10 Quit yosafbridge (*.net *.split) 05.52.11 Quit Bawitdaba (*.net *.split) 05.52.11 Quit maraz (*.net *.split) 05.52.11 Quit preglow (*.net *.split) 05.52.11 Quit jae_ (*.net *.split) 05.52.11 Quit ranmachan (*.net *.split) 05.52.11 Quit ThomasAH (*.net *.split) 05.52.15 Join JdGord [0] (~jonno@pa58-109-150-133.pa.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 05.53.30 Join Zambezi [0] (Zulu@unaffiliated/zambezi) 05.53.30 Join ps-auxw [0] (~arneb@2001:470:c807:0:1532:4e5f:2ad3:4123) 05.53.30 Join cozmic [0] (cozmic@89-160-133-29.du.xdsl.is) 05.53.30 Join krazykit [0] (~krazykit@99-126-205-52.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) 05.53.30 Join mystica555_ [0] (~mike@c-75-70-179-25.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 05.53.30 Join user890104 [0] (Venci@venci-notebook-lan.ipv6.6bez10.info) 05.53.30 Join Horscht [0] (~Horschti@xbmc/user/horscht) 05.54.35 Join Utchy [0] (~Utchy@rps6752.ovh.net) 05.54.35 Join fred [0] (fred@ircop.efnet.at) 05.54.35 Join Barahir [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590f70b4.pool.mediaWays.net) 05.54.35 Join ender [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 05.54.35 Join Kitar|st [0] (~Kitarist@BSN-182-97-176.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 05.54.35 Join evilnick_ [0] (~evilnick@cpe-24-193-43-185.nyc.res.rr.com) 05.54.35 Join fdinel [0] (~Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 05.54.35 Join Dreamxtreme [0] (~Dre@92.30.19.175) 05.54.35 Join balintx [0] (~quassel@szerver1.gulyasp-koll.sulinet.hu) 05.54.35 Join Guinness [0] (Slayer@c-68-55-111-159.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 05.54.48 Join jordan`` [0] (~jordan@jem75-13-78-235-252-137.fbx.proxad.net) 05.54.48 Join miceh [0] (~mtq@h1439481.stratoserver.net) 05.54.48 Join [Saint] [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.2.14) 05.54.48 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@dhcp0101.kin.resnet.group.upenn.edu) 05.54.48 Join timccc [0] (~timccc@112.166.15.141) 05.54.48 Join simonrvn [0] (simon@197.112-ppp.3menatwork.com) 05.54.48 Join _jhMikeS_ [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 05.54.48 Join pjm0616 [0] (~user@110.9.28.120) 05.54.48 Join crwl [0] (~crwlll@dsl-jklbrasgw1-fe10fb00-173.dhcp.inet.fi) 05.54.48 Join zu [0] (~zu@ks355000.kimsufi.com) 05.54.48 Join literal [0] (hinrik@v.nix.is) 05.55.04 Join ved_ [0] (ved@ddsbox.co.cc) 05.55.04 Join Rondom_ [0] (~rondom@lvps178-77-79-47.dedicated.hosteurope.de) 05.55.04 Join burn [0] (~burn@cl-1079.bru-01.be.sixxs.net) 05.55.04 Join antil33t4 [0] (antil33t@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 05.55.04 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 05.55.04 Join Galois [0] (djao@efnet-math.org) 05.55.04 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 05.55.04 Join TBCOOL [0] (~tb@c-3c3671d5.09-42-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 05.55.04 Join Slasheri [0] (miipekk@rockbox/developer/Slasheri) 05.55.04 Join bzed [0] (~bzed@devel.recluse.de) 05.55.21 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@24.229.139.169.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) 05.55.21 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.55.21 Join bluebroth3r [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 05.55.21 Join mordocai [0] (~mordocai@66.119.9.243) 05.55.21 Join scorche [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 05.55.21 Join aevin [0] (eivindsy@unaffiliated/aevin) 05.55.21 Join logiclost [0] (~lostlogic@erudite.lostlogicx.com) 05.55.21 Join merbanan [0] (~banan@c-94-255-221-143.cust.bredband2.com) 05.55.21 Join Torne [0] (torne@rockbox/developer/Torne) 05.55.35 Nick fred is now known as 5EXABW64X (fred@ircop.efnet.at) 05.55.46 Join kkit|sh [0] (krazykit@silenceisdefeat.com) 05.55.46 Join yosafbridge [0] (~yosafbrid@li125-242.members.linode.com) 05.55.46 Join Bawitdaba [0] (~Sphinx@cpe-74-70-40-135.nycap.res.rr.com) 05.55.46 Join maraz [0] (maraz@kapsi.fi) 05.55.46 Join preglow [0] (thomj@rockbox/developer/preglow) 05.55.46 Join jae_ [0] (~jae@jaerhard.com) 05.55.46 Join ranmachan [0] (ranma@yumi.tdiedrich.de) 05.55.46 Join ThomasAH [0] (~thomas@aktaia.intevation.org) 05.55.55 Join rasher [0] (~rasher@rockbox/developer/rasher) 05.55.56 Join parafin [0] (parafin@paraf.in) 05.56.10 Join pixelma [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 05.56.10 Join amiconn [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 05.56.10 Join ReimuHakurei [0] (~reimu@74.112.212.15) 05.56.10 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 05.56.10 Join Guest24228 [0] (jljhook@irkki.fi) 05.56.10 Join GodEater [0] (~bibble@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 05.56.10 Join Battousai [0] (~bryan@gentoo/developer/battousai) 05.56.10 Join MagusG [0] (magusg@c-71-59-57-46.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 05.56.10 Join Hadaka [0] (~naked@naked.iki.fi) 05.56.10 Join mikroflops [0] (~yogurt@h-34-59.A238.priv.bahnhof.se) 05.56.12 Quit Loro (Quit: Loro) 05.56.16 Join 5EXABW7QR [0] (~seth@98.115.0.7) 05.56.24 Nick 5EXABW7QR is now known as froggymana (~seth@98.115.0.7) 05.56.36 Join Loto [0] (~nfs@xbmc/user/Loto) 05.56.52 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 05.57.02 Join saratoga [0] (9803c6dd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.198.221) 05.57.20 Quit saratoga (*.net *.split) 05.57.20 Quit amiconn (*.net *.split) 05.57.20 Quit pixelma (*.net *.split) 05.57.20 Quit ReimuHakurei (*.net *.split) 05.57.21 Quit Guest24228 (*.net *.split) 05.57.21 Quit GodEater (*.net *.split) 05.57.21 Quit Battousai (*.net *.split) 05.57.21 Quit MagusG (*.net *.split) 05.57.21 Quit Hadaka (*.net *.split) 05.57.21 Quit mikroflops (*.net *.split) 05.57.22 Quit kkit|sh (*.net *.split) 05.57.22 Quit yosafbridge (*.net *.split) 05.57.22 Quit Bawitdaba (*.net *.split) 05.57.22 Quit maraz (*.net *.split) 05.57.23 Quit preglow (*.net *.split) 05.57.23 Quit jae_ (*.net *.split) 05.57.23 Quit ranmachan (*.net *.split) 05.57.23 Quit ThomasAH (*.net *.split) 05.57.24 Quit Zarggg (*.net *.split) 05.57.24 Quit TheSeven (*.net *.split) 05.57.24 Quit bluebroth3r (*.net *.split) 05.57.24 Quit mordocai (*.net *.split) 05.57.24 Quit scorche (*.net *.split) 05.57.24 Quit aevin (*.net *.split) 05.57.24 Quit logiclost (*.net *.split) 05.57.25 Quit merbanan (*.net *.split) 05.57.25 Quit Torne (*.net *.split) 05.57.25 Quit rasher (*.net *.split) 05.57.25 Quit parafin (*.net *.split) 05.57.25 Quit ved_ (*.net *.split) 05.57.25 Quit Rondom_ (*.net *.split) 05.57.25 Quit burn (*.net *.split) 05.57.25 Quit antil33t4 (*.net *.split) 05.57.26 Quit mc2739 (*.net *.split) 05.57.26 Quit Galois (*.net *.split) 05.57.26 Quit Bagder (*.net *.split) 05.57.26 Quit TBCOOL (*.net *.split) 05.57.26 Quit Slasheri (*.net *.split) 05.57.26 Quit bzed (*.net *.split) 05.57.27 Quit jordan`` (*.net *.split) 05.57.27 Quit miceh (*.net *.split) 05.57.27 Quit [Saint] (*.net *.split) 05.57.27 Quit Keripo (*.net *.split) 05.57.27 Quit timccc (*.net *.split) 05.57.27 Quit simonrvn (*.net *.split) 05.57.28 Quit _jhMikeS_ (*.net *.split) 05.57.28 Quit pjm0616 (*.net *.split) 05.57.28 Quit crwl (*.net *.split) 05.57.28 Quit zu (*.net *.split) 05.57.28 Quit literal (*.net *.split) 05.57.28 Quit froggymana (*.net *.split) 05.57.28 Quit Utchy (*.net *.split) 05.57.28 Quit 5EXABW64X (*.net *.split) 05.57.28 Quit Loto (*.net *.split) 05.57.29 Quit Barahir (*.net *.split) 05.57.29 Quit ender (*.net *.split) 05.57.29 Quit Kitar|st (*.net *.split) 05.57.29 Quit evilnick_ (*.net *.split) 05.57.29 Quit fdinel (*.net *.split) 05.57.29 Quit Dreamxtreme (*.net *.split) 05.57.29 Quit balintx (*.net *.split) 05.57.29 Quit Guinness (*.net *.split) 05.57.30 Quit Horscht (*.net *.split) 05.57.30 Quit user890104 (*.net *.split) 05.57.30 Quit mystica555_ (*.net *.split) 05.57.31 Quit krazykit (*.net *.split) 05.57.31 Quit cozmic (*.net *.split) 05.57.31 Quit ps-auxw (*.net *.split) 05.57.31 Quit Zambezi (*.net *.split) 05.57.50 Quit froggyman (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.57.55 Quit noamsml (Write error: Broken pipe) 05.58.23 Join noamsml [0] (~noamsml@adsl-75-45-243-240.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 05.58.23 Join saratoga [0] (9803c6dd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.198.221) 05.58.23 Join Loto [0] (~nfs@xbmc/user/Loto) 05.58.23 Join froggymana [0] (~seth@98.115.0.7) 05.58.23 Join mikroflops [0] (~yogurt@h-34-59.A238.priv.bahnhof.se) 05.58.23 Join Hadaka [0] (~naked@naked.iki.fi) 05.58.23 Join MagusG [0] (magusg@c-71-59-57-46.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 05.58.23 Join Battousai [0] (~bryan@gentoo/developer/battousai) 05.58.23 Join GodEater [0] (~bibble@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 05.58.23 Join Guest24228 [0] (jljhook@irkki.fi) 05.58.23 Join ReimuHakurei [0] (~reimu@74.112.212.15) 05.58.23 Join amiconn [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 05.58.23 Join pixelma [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 05.58.23 Join parafin [0] (parafin@paraf.in) 05.58.23 Join rasher [0] (~rasher@rockbox/developer/rasher) 05.58.23 Join ThomasAH [0] (~thomas@aktaia.intevation.org) 05.58.23 Join ranmachan [0] (ranma@yumi.tdiedrich.de) 05.58.23 Join jae_ [0] (~jae@jaerhard.com) 05.58.23 Join preglow [0] (thomj@rockbox/developer/preglow) 05.58.23 Join maraz [0] (maraz@kapsi.fi) 05.58.23 Join Bawitdaba [0] (~Sphinx@cpe-74-70-40-135.nycap.res.rr.com) 05.58.23 Join yosafbridge [0] (~yosafbrid@li125-242.members.linode.com) 05.58.23 Join kkit|sh [0] (krazykit@silenceisdefeat.com) 05.58.23 Join Torne [0] (torne@rockbox/developer/Torne) 05.58.23 Join merbanan [0] (~banan@c-94-255-221-143.cust.bredband2.com) 05.58.23 Join logiclost [0] (~lostlogic@erudite.lostlogicx.com) 05.58.23 Join aevin [0] (eivindsy@unaffiliated/aevin) 05.58.23 Join scorche [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 05.58.23 Join mordocai [0] (~mordocai@66.119.9.243) 05.58.23 Join bluebroth3r [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 05.58.23 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.58.23 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@24.229.139.169.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) 05.58.23 Join bzed [0] (~bzed@devel.recluse.de) 05.58.23 Join Slasheri [0] (miipekk@rockbox/developer/Slasheri) 05.58.23 Join TBCOOL [0] (~tb@c-3c3671d5.09-42-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 05.58.23 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 05.58.23 Join Galois [0] (djao@efnet-math.org) 05.58.23 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 05.58.23 Join antil33t4 [0] (antil33t@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 05.58.23 Join burn [0] (~burn@cl-1079.bru-01.be.sixxs.net) 05.58.23 Join Rondom_ [0] (~rondom@lvps178-77-79-47.dedicated.hosteurope.de) 05.58.23 Join ved_ [0] (ved@ddsbox.co.cc) 05.58.23 Join literal [0] (hinrik@v.nix.is) 05.58.23 Join zu [0] (~zu@ks355000.kimsufi.com) 05.58.23 Join crwl [0] (~crwlll@dsl-jklbrasgw1-fe10fb00-173.dhcp.inet.fi) 05.58.23 Join pjm0616 [0] (~user@110.9.28.120) 05.58.23 Join _jhMikeS_ [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 05.58.23 Join simonrvn [0] (simon@197.112-ppp.3menatwork.com) 05.58.23 Join timccc [0] (~timccc@112.166.15.141) 05.58.23 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@dhcp0101.kin.resnet.group.upenn.edu) 05.58.23 Join [Saint] [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.2.14) 05.58.23 Join miceh [0] (~mtq@h1439481.stratoserver.net) 05.58.23 Join jordan`` [0] (~jordan@jem75-13-78-235-252-137.fbx.proxad.net) 05.58.23 Join Guinness [0] (Slayer@c-68-55-111-159.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 05.58.23 Join balintx [0] (~quassel@szerver1.gulyasp-koll.sulinet.hu) 05.58.23 Join Dreamxtreme [0] (~Dre@92.30.19.175) 05.58.23 Join fdinel [0] (~Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 05.58.23 Join evilnick_ [0] (~evilnick@cpe-24-193-43-185.nyc.res.rr.com) 05.58.23 Join Kitar|st [0] (~Kitarist@BSN-182-97-176.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 05.58.23 Join ender [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 05.58.23 Join Barahir [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590f70b4.pool.mediaWays.net) 05.58.23 Join 5EXABW64X [0] (fred@ircop.efnet.at) 05.58.23 Join Utchy [0] (~Utchy@rps6752.ovh.net) 05.58.23 Join Zambezi [0] (Zulu@unaffiliated/zambezi) 05.58.23 Join ps-auxw [0] (~arneb@2001:470:c807:0:1532:4e5f:2ad3:4123) 05.58.23 Join cozmic [0] (cozmic@89-160-133-29.du.xdsl.is) 05.58.23 Join krazykit [0] (~krazykit@99-126-205-52.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) 05.58.23 Join mystica555_ [0] (~mike@c-75-70-179-25.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 05.58.23 Join user890104 [0] (Venci@venci-notebook-lan.ipv6.6bez10.info) 05.58.23 Join Horscht [0] (~Horschti@xbmc/user/horscht) 05.59.16 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@rockbox/user/Llorean) 05.59.32 Nick froggymana is now known as froggyman (~seth@98.115.0.7) 05.59.41 Join guymann_ [0] (~charles@69.0.8.105) 06.00.02 Nick froggyman is now known as Guest11574 (~seth@98.115.0.7) 06.00.47 Nick Guest11574 is now known as froggyman (~seth@98.115.0.7) 06.00.54 Quit froggyman (Changing host) 06.00.54 Join froggyman [0] (~seth@unaffiliated/froggyman) 06.01.07 Quit guymann (Remote host closed the connection) 06.03.11 Quit mulenmar (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.12.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.12.31 Quit JdGord (Quit: Bye) 06.16.12 Quit tchan1 (Read error: Operation timed out) 06.19.12 Join tiangolo [0] (~ba7033a4@giant.haxx.se) 06.26.03 # I have a question: Using Rockbox, can I play just one song? in other words, play one song and then stop... To do that with the original firmware (Sansa Fuze) I would have to change the metadata to match just one song or create a playlist with one song for every song that I want to play alone 06.32.27 Quit fdinel (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 06.32.46 # <[Saint]> if you select the track in either the Filebrowser, or the Database, bring up the context menu on said track, and chose "Insert" it will commence playback with a track count of 1. 06.32.54 # <[Saint]> tiangolo: ^ 06.33.15 Join shai [0] (~Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 06.33.47 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 06.33.56 # <[Saint]> tiangolo: Sorry, Bring up the context menu on the track you want to play, then choose "Playlist", and then "Insert" 06.37.25 # Oh, thanks for the rapid answer. Will it play only that selected song and then stop? (That's what I want) 06.37.34 # <[Saint]> correct. 06.37.53 # As long as repeat is turned off, of course. 06.38.18 # <[Saint]> well, yes ;) 06.40.25 # Oh, great. Thanks! ...Another question: Can I return to the original firmware after I've installed Rockbox? Would a reset do that? 06.41.00 Quit logiclost (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 06.41.14 # <[Saint]> tiangolo: Yes, you can. 06.41.33 # <[Saint]> The manual will inform you as to how you can use the dualboot function. 06.45.09 Quit antil33t4 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.47.13 # Many thanks Saint and Llorean! I haven't used yet my new device, but I think I will start using Rockbox right now 06.47.37 # <[Saint]> tiangolo: What device is this? 06.47.45 Join The_Pwny [0] (~IceChat7@203-219-63-40.tpgi.com.au) 06.48.27 # [Saint]: Sansa Fuze. 06.48.39 # He mentioned it above. ;) 06.48.50 # <[Saint]> Hmmm...I seem to have missed that. 06.48.56 # <[Saint]> Appologies. 06.49.12 # I almost replied to your "the manual has dualboot instructions" with a "not every device has dual boot" but stopped myself when I caught it was a fuze and thought you'd seen it too 06.50.03 # Though I believe the Gigabeat F and some installations on a Gigabeat S are the only cases I can immediately think of without dual boot (and the Gigabeat F instead has a triggered uninstall of Rockbox, you're back in the OF but can't get back to Rockbox without a reinstall) 06.50.20 # <[Saint]> Yes, I did indeed forget to say "if it *can* dualboot - it will be in the manual" 06.51.23 # <[Saint]> And, there's weird "dualboot" target(s?) also...like the H10 where you need to pull the battery. 06.51.28 # <[Saint]> Odd, but...it works. 06.58.09 Join lostlogic [0] (~lostlogic@rockbox/developer/lostlogic) 07.06.52 Quit Dreamxtreme (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07.07.52 Join Dreamxtreme [0] (~Dre@92.30.19.175) 07.10.17 Quit lostlogic (*.net *.split) 07.10.18 Quit guymann_ (*.net *.split) 07.10.18 Quit Llorean (*.net *.split) 07.10.18 Quit jordan`` (*.net *.split) 07.10.18 Quit miceh (*.net *.split) 07.10.18 Quit [Saint] (*.net *.split) 07.10.18 Quit Keripo (*.net *.split) 07.10.18 Quit timccc (*.net *.split) 07.10.18 Quit simonrvn (*.net *.split) 07.10.18 Quit _jhMikeS_ (*.net *.split) 07.10.19 Quit pjm0616 (*.net *.split) 07.10.19 Quit crwl (*.net *.split) 07.10.19 Quit zu (*.net *.split) 07.10.19 Quit literal (*.net *.split) 07.10.54 Join lostlogic [0] (~lostlogic@rockbox/developer/lostlogic) 07.10.54 Join guymann_ [0] (~charles@69.0.8.105) 07.10.54 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@rockbox/user/Llorean) 07.10.54 Join jordan`` [0] (~jordan@jem75-13-78-235-252-137.fbx.proxad.net) 07.10.54 Join miceh [0] (~mtq@h1439481.stratoserver.net) 07.10.54 Join [Saint] [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.2.14) 07.10.54 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@dhcp0101.kin.resnet.group.upenn.edu) 07.10.54 Join timccc [0] (~timccc@112.166.15.141) 07.10.54 Join simonrvn [0] (simon@197.112-ppp.3menatwork.com) 07.10.54 Join _jhMikeS_ [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 07.10.54 Join pjm0616 [0] (~user@110.9.28.120) 07.10.54 Join crwl [0] (~crwlll@dsl-jklbrasgw1-fe10fb00-173.dhcp.inet.fi) 07.10.54 Join zu [0] (~zu@ks355000.kimsufi.com) 07.10.54 Join literal [0] (hinrik@v.nix.is) 07.11.21 Join shai_ [0] (~Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 07.12.44 Quit shai (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.26.14 Join user890104_ [0] (Venci@venci-notebook-lan.ipv6.6bez10.info) 07.26.15 Quit user890104 (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 07.28.50 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 07.39.05 Quit n17ikh (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.41.31 Nick user890104_ is now known as user890104 (Venci@venci-notebook-lan.ipv6.6bez10.info) 07.47.13 Join CaptainKewl [0] (~captainke@207-38-215-126.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 07.53.14 Join Horschti [0] (~Horschti@xbmc/user/horscht) 07.54.41 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 07.54.49 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@2.208.99.86) 07.54.50 Quit kugel (Changing host) 07.54.50 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 07.56.02 Quit kugel (Client Quit) 07.56.29 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@2.208.99.86) 07.56.30 Quit kugel (Changing host) 07.56.30 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 07.57.17 Quit Horscht (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 08.10.52 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote host closed the connection) 08.12.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.22.18 # Well guys, many thanks, bye. 08.22.24 Quit tiangolo (Quit: CGI:IRC) 08.23.47 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@87-206-240-131.dynamic.chello.pl) 08.25.02 # [Saint]: how the work on HD300 svg goin' 08.26.50 Join Keripo1 [0] (~Keripo@dhcp0101.kin.resnet.group.upenn.edu) 08.27.29 Quit Keripo (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08.35.31 Join antil33t [0] (~Mudkips@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 09.00.05 Join efyx [0] (~efyx@lap34-1-82-225-185-146.fbx.proxad.net) 09.03.45 Quit Loto (Quit: Loto) 09.05.00 Join Loto [0] (~nfs@S01060012171a84e3.no.shawcable.net) 09.05.00 Quit Loto (Changing host) 09.05.00 Join Loto [0] (~nfs@xbmc/user/Loto) 09.08.54 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 09.19.00 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 09.25.26 # Llorean: the Iaudios don't have dualboot either 09.26.04 # Ah yes, that's right 09.26.14 # There's the patch but it never made it into SVN. 09.26.32 # yeah, didn't seem to get much interest 09.29.46 Join n17ikh [0] (~n17ikh@c-68-59-25-51.hsd1.sc.comcast.net) 09.31.48 # is SD/SDHC/SDXC only a software-side difference? 09.31.58 # i.e. will rockbox support SDXC on all sd-capable targets? 09.32.06 # <[Saint]> afaik, yes. 09.32.44 Join hebz0rl [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-065-048-185.pools.arcor-ip.net) 09.33.16 # <[Saint]> SDXC I'm not so sure about, but SD/SDHC I'm 99% sure is only different software. 09.33.31 Quit evilnick_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09.33.58 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:7d0:0:f000::135d) 09.35.22 # right, like we added sdhc support to e200 which doesn't have it according to the OF 09.36.24 Join Seed [0] (~ben@p11811112.orange.net.il) 09.38.02 # Isn't SDXC two part? 09.38.19 # I don't know any details about SDXC 09.38.33 # I seem to recall reading somewhere that SDXC encompassed two types of new cards, ones compatible with the old hardware, and faster ones that required new hardware 09.38.57 # Or something like that. 09.39.58 # <[Saint]> I seem to remember the same (or similar) thing being said about SD/SDHC, that it's not backward/forward compatible 09.40.09 # * TheSeven wonders if he should get an ipod classic or a cowon d2 09.40.36 # <[Saint]> Easy choice IMO 09.41.05 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09.41.06 Nick Horschti is now known as Horscht (~Horschti@xbmc/user/horscht) 09.41.20 # <[Saint]> Don't you already *have* a Classic though? Or does that need to go back to the donor? 09.41.30 # <[Saint]> TheSeven: ^ 09.41.47 Quit wodz (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 09.41.49 # no, but that broken hard drive is driving me nuts :) 09.41.51 Join Therion [0] (~60ed10db@giant.haxx.se) 09.42.16 # Also apparently SDXC will be encompassed by SD 3.0 and 4.0. 3.0 cards are apparently compatible with old hardware as long as they support exFAT, where the new cards use the faster transfer speeds and supposedly won't be compatible with SDHC hosts. 09.42.43 # So sayeth the wikipedia article, at least. 09.42.53 # <[Saint]> right, so...it is just software limitation apparently. 09.43.05 # What part of that says it's just a software limitation? 09.43.23 # Anyone know how to fix a Sansa Clip? installed rockbox on it yesterday and now it won;t turn on, even when plugged in. 09.43.30 # 4.0 is supposed to require new hardware according to that, but still be called SDXC 09.43.37 # <[Saint]> that's what I take from it saying that it's not compatible with the host. 09.43.59 # <[Saint]> It should explicitly mention a change in form factor. 09.45.23 # It's a serial transfer scheme with more pins. 09.45.29 # <[Saint]> The host (unless I'm mistaken) only exists in software...so compatibility should just be a matter of finding out how to make it tick. 09.45.30 # That sounds like a change in form factor to me. 09.45.42 # currently that bugger of a hard drive is slowing down my work on the classic significantly... 09.46.06 # Therion: did you try a hard power-off? I think it's a loong hold of the power button on those. 09.46.08 # while there were offers that the rockbox fund may replace the drive, i don't really feel comfortable with opening those things 09.46.10 # "The main asset that will enable the aforementioned data rates of 300 MB/s will be a new, dual-row pin memory card design." 09.46.13 Quit cozmic (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 09.46.25 # <[Saint]> TheSeven: Isn't a second-hand disk going to be cheaper than either another Classic or a D2? 09.46.32 # Therion: also, do you remember which build and bootloader you installed exactly? 09.46.51 Quit krazykit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 09.46.54 # Yes, tried that, tried connecting it to USB while holding the middle button like the site said too 09.47.04 # Llorean: now the question is whether they will still be accessible in SDHC hosts at a lower speed, with only some of the pins contacted 09.47.15 Join krazykit [0] (~krazykit@99-126-205-52.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) 09.47.32 # [Saint]: well, as I said i fear i'll totally break the ipod while trying to replace the drive 09.47.41 # <[Saint]> TheSeven: Well, that's what I'm thinking. 09.47.58 # <[Saint]> errr...to your previous statement. 09.48.04 # * TheSeven figured 09.48.05 # TheSeven: The official description currently available doesn't say either way, at the moment. 09.48.13 # <[Saint]> what makes you think you'll break it? 09.48.29 # I don;t remember which build no... I picked wichever was recommended / stable i guess 09.48.35 # look at the ifixit guide. that case isn't rather easy to deal with :( 09.49.20 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 09.49.28 # <[Saint]> I'm pretty sure that "they" (y'know..."them") said that SD/SDHC wasn't going to be forward/backward compatible...but there was a pleasant surprise there. 09.49.33 # <[Saint]> Lets hope for the same again. 09.49.41 # Therion: there were reports where Clips and other newer Sansa players could get stuck when trying to reboot into the Sansa firmware from a running Rockbox which you could only get out by running the battery down completely (and that takes some times, I think even days). So this automatic reboot was actually disabled in newer Rockbox versions and the release too, I think. 09.50.00 # [Saint]: yes, IIUC the additional pins just extend the data bus to 8 bits 09.50.17 Join cozmic [0] (cozmic@89-160-133-29.du.xdsl.is) 09.50.33 # <[Saint]> yeah, I've looked at it briefly...very briefly. 09.50.43 # Therion: but Rockbox worked yesterday? 09.50.45 # hm, a 16gb cowon d2 + 64gb sdhc costs about as much as a 160gb ipod classic 09.51.29 # I installed it all to the player, unplugged it, and it came up saying "Updating Firmware" and then the player shut off, and havent been able to get it back on 09.51.36 # <[Saint]> TheSeven: I'd go with a Classic, as them you either have a set of spares, or a board to discect and plot paths with. 09.51.43 # <[Saint]> s/them/then/ 09.51.56 # TheSeven, [Saint]: Apparently it's confirmed that the new card design allows backward compatibility. In the past they were saying that the 3.0 and 4.0 specification cards *were* physically incompatible, but this has evidently changed. 09.52.07 # I'm new to rockbox, could it have been because i selected multiple themes when it asked? 09.52.22 # <[Saint]> Therion: No. 09.52.26 # no, that doesn't cause any problems 09.52.26 # * TheSeven wonders if the rockbox fund might pay whatever a replacement drive would have costed if he gets a new ipod classic instead 09.52.50 # Oh, wait, it goes out of its way to say the new hosts are compatible with the old cards, but still no mention of the other way 09.53.12 # <[Saint]> Therion: It sounds to me as though your player is stuck (as pixelma mentioned) in a loop, and that it needs the battery to drain completely before it can be charged and re-booted again. 09.53.29 Quit Zambezi (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.53.29 # <[Saint]> You can also disconnect the battery to achieve this, but it isn't reccommended to do so. 09.53.43 Join Zambezi [0] (Zulu@80.67.9.2) 09.53.43 # Therion: can you tell if it is on or off now? 09.54.10 # the D2 would have the advantage of extensibility once bigger cards are available, longer battery runtime, tochscreen and no damn moving parts 09.54.33 # Oh it is definitely off, none of the lights are on, and tried connecting headphones just incase 09.54.35 # how much RAM does it have btw and is the output voltage somewhat calibrated? 09.54.57 # i.e. are 0dB really 0dB and can it drive that without clipping? 09.54.58 # Therion: well, my thinking is this: there were also reports of another display type in Clips which isn't supported yet and maybe you have one of those 09.55.02 # [Saint]: According to sdcard.org SDXC cards cannot be used in SD/SDHC devices. Considering they were in the past the ones saying firmware updates in devices could allow SDHC cards to work, while nothing's guaranteed I don't think I'd get my hopes up. 09.55.13 # <[Saint]> TheSeven: the D2? 09.55.19 # <[Saint]> 64MB iiuc. 09.55.33 # really? that would be a lot for a flash-based player 09.55.59 # Therion: maybe you could try booting into the original firmware. You have to hold a button immediately after powering on, I'm not sure which it is on the Clips 09.56.01 # <[Saint]> Hmmm...that may be the D2+, I'm questioning myself now. 09.56.02 # hm, apparently 32MB 09.57.00 # also does rockbox run on both the d2, d2+ and d2-dab? 09.57.05 # or something like that) and that didn't even work... im wondering if it's just dead... i've had it for 3 years now 09.57.22 # tried to force run msg mode*** 09.57.24 # <[Saint]> TheSeven: Just the D2 afaik 09.57.45 # Therion: it is the "left" button according to the manual ( http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-sansaclip/rockbox-buildch3.html#x5-280003.1.3 ) 09.58.31 # unfortunately the one who looked into the issue with different displays or other hardware isn't around currently 09.59.15 # TheSeven: I believe on all but DAB isn't supported yet 09.59.19 # <[Saint]> pixelma: I'm pretty sure the "new hardware" Clips just don't boot at all. 09.59.26 # <[Saint]> this one was apparently working. 09.59.40 # it wasn't if I understood correctly 10.00.22 # Yea that doesnt work, im assuming it would need to be able to actually start up to use the left button 10.00.54 # <[Saint]> ah, right...I did read it incorrectly. 10.01.46 # <[Saint]> I read it as though it worked for the day of installation, then suddenly stopped. 10.01.46 Quit scorche (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10.02.16 Join scorche [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 10.02.33 # It worked perfectly before i installed, but once it tried to update firmware for rockbox is when it stopped working 10.02.33 # Therion: then I'd try the "leave it for a few days and try again" way, sorry I don't have better news. You could also try asking here again in a few hour, maybe other people have more ideas (or stay around) 10.03.28 # Ok, well i'll be busy for a couple of days anyways, ill leave it be for a while see if that works, if not i'll come back and see if anyone knows anymore 10.03.47 # <[Saint]> If the player was at ~100% charge when it "died", it could take 3~4~5 days to discharge completely. 10.03.53 # do you think it would be wise to connect something to the battery to drain it faster? like an LED or a small motor? 10.05.21 # <[Saint]> you'd probably need to open the case to do that anyway, and if you're going to open it you might as well desolder the battery. 10.05.47 # if you mean taking out the battery then you already disconnected it and draining won't be needed anymore 10.05.55 Quit Seed (Disconnected by services) 10.05.55 Join Seedy [0] (~ben@p11811120.orange.net.il) 10.06.04 # as I understand it 10.06.45 # Ah ye... it probably has more than just positive and negative.... i;d never figure it out... guess i'll just wait for it to drain itself 10.07.11 # thanks guys, been helpfull. Hope to someday get rockbox going, looks like a great project 10.07.28 # <[Saint]> it has positive, negative, and thermister leads IIUC. 10.08.02 # lol idk what thermister even means 10.08.09 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 10.08.43 # <[Saint]> (measures temperature) 10.09.29 # ah, always been more of a software guy than a hardware, but anyways, gettin late, thanks again guys. Gonna start the whole waiting process =] 10.09.48 Quit hebz0rl (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 10.10.42 Quit Therion (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 10.11.41 Join hebz0rl [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-065-048-185.pools.arcor-ip.net) 10.12.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.17.13 # <[Saint]> can someone else (preferably someone that could potentially fix it also) have a look at the wiki's search function? clicking "wiki" from the left hand column of the mainpage, then trying to use the search feature up in the top right of the wiki page leads me here: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/WebSearch?search=;scope=all;web=;tab=search 10.17.26 # <[Saint]> and it certainly seems incorrect to me. 10.18.35 Join mordocai_ [0] (~mordocai@66.119.9.243) 10.18.50 # ghost mordocai Md0586668 10.19.03 # <[Saint]> ouch 10.19.04 # sigh... time to change password lol 10.19.12 # <[Saint]> ;) 10.19.27 Quit mordocai (Disconnected by services) 10.19.32 Nick mordocai_ is now known as mordocai (~mordocai@66.119.9.243) 10.20.36 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@arch.tunnel.ipv6.estpak.ee) 10.21.41 Quit hebz0rl (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 10.26.18 # TheSeven: IIRC it runs on all three variants. DAB isn't supported (but the rest of the thing should work) and I believe the D2+ is only has different firmware (but I'm not sure there) 10.37.51 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 10.38.11 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 10.42.53 Join TheSeven|Mobile [0] (~theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 10.45.26 Quit efyx (Remote host closed the connection) 10.45.39 Join efyx [0] (~efyx@lap34-1-82-225-185-146.fbx.proxad.net) 10.48.54 Nick Stummi_ is now known as Stummi (Stummi@rockbox/developer/Stummi) 10.58.53 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 11.10.49 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 11.20.49 Quit pjm0616 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11.21.30 Join pjm0616 [0] (~user@110.9.28.120) 11.23.05 Quit TheSeven|Mobile (Quit: TheSeven|Mobile) 11.23.07 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 11.27.29 Quit literal (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11.29.26 Join literal [0] (hinrik@v.nix.is) 11.29.28 # AlexP: 56abcdEFG 11.30.24 Part LinusN 11.31.41 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 11.32.29 Part Zagor 11.32.29 Part LinusN 11.33.40 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 11.35.18 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 11.43.26 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 11.47.51 # gevaerts: did you only delete one of its two spam posts, or was that the forum plugin? 11.48.05 # I deleted one of them 11.48.16 # teru: if you happen to be watching the logs... please come online! 11.49.21 # gevaerts: I deleted the other now 11.52.38 Quit Seedy (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 11.56.23 Join InsDel [0] (~haqr.net@unaffiliated/insdel) 11.59.23 # what should the context menu for tracks in a .m3u have? 11.59.58 # remove, move obviously, "add to catalog" probably, "add to curent playlist".. what else? 12.01.11 # and where is the correct place for the "playlist viewer" settings menu? 12.01.51 # settings > general > playlists? 12.03.55 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@p5DE5AE3A.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.04.55 # wasn't it in the playlist viewer currently? It makes a bit of sense as it is a plugin IIRC, although not very clear to the user 12.05.41 # ? 12.06.01 # not talking about moving anything to plugins, rearranging how playlists are handled to make it better 12.07.25 # I think that the current playlist viewer (the thing you get if you go to "view current playlist") currently is a plugin internally 12.07.43 # it isnt 12.08.14 # MONTHS (probably more than a year) ago i talked about moving it to a plugin 12.08.26 # but no, I'm working on making it more like the file or db browser 12.08.30 # see the ml 12.08.33 # that's not what I mean 12.09.27 # maybe it is using the plugin buffer or so (?) and I confused things 12.09.44 # yes, that sounds more like it 12.12.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.13.48 # ok but it has a context menu for itself already (turning icons on and off) - "Playlist viewer settings" is now the last item in the context menu of the track when viewing the playlist 12.13.59 # I should probbaly make the playlist viewier show the playlist name as the title instead of just "Playlist" 12.14.11 # I thought it had a dedicated "internal menu" button, may have had at one time 12.14.15 # pixelma: yes. thats what I was asking about, where is the correct place for it? 12.15.36 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 12.15.57 Quit [Saint] (Quit: I'm only going to Heaven if it feels like Hell, I'm only going to Heaven if it tastes like caramel...) 12.16.00 # splashf(HZ, (unsigned char *)"%s %s", str(LANG_MOVE), str(LANG_FAILED)); <---- lovely :/ 12.16.15 # hmm, have to think about it 12.22.43 Join petur [0] (d408b802@rockbox/developer/petur) 12.24.04 # why does the settings menu have an option for configuring the battery capacity? 12.24.21 # to allow configuring the battery capacity 12.27.01 Join Bushmills [0] (~Bushmills@scarydevilmonastery.net) 12.27.02 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@skatol.ch.pw.edu.pl) 12.28.05 # gevaerts: how ide drive should react when ata reset line is toggled? Should it clear registers? 12.28.12 # no idea 12.29.06 # ata specs are rather cryptic in this area 12.29.20 # * gevaerts wouldn't know. He never looked at ata specs 12.30.28 Nick soap_ is now known as soap (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 12.32.43 # JdGordon: I guess your "general settings" idea would work, seeing as e.g. database settings are also at this level - there already are settings related to playlist handling itself though. Additionally this could also be used as a context menu on the "Playlists" entry in the main menu, similar to the database, file view etc. 12.32.44 # * JdGordon is going to need manual reworking help 12.34.41 # yay, just managed to fix my 1.50 EUR "defective" ebay auctioned Sansa Clip :) 12.40.14 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (~rmenes@rockbox/staff/LambdaCalculus37) 12.43.43 Join eWill [0] (~chatzilla@adsl-76-235-61-247.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) 12.44.04 # Is there a simple change I can make to the source so that the Recent Bookmark list is 20 (instead of 10) entries long? 12.44.35 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 12.45.32 # Can someone who's familiar with FS#7505 take a look at this warning I get when building the plugin: http://lambdacalculus379.pastebin.com/mxDWKkR5 12.47.03 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11808 is a pretty heavy UI change which has been agreed on already, can everyone please give it a try? 12.47.16 # AlexP: can I bug you to help with the manual changes? pretty please :D 12.48.36 # JdGordon: Can you make a couple of test builds and host them somewhere? 12.48.55 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (Remote host closed the connection) 12.49.02 # yeah, which targets though? I guess i could do all but uploading on my connectino will be a bitcg 12.49.29 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (~bjohnson@c-24-118-162-123.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 12.50.04 # JdGordon: Do some of the more popular targets. 12.50.37 # * LambdaCalculus37 takes the diff down and prepares to roll a beaft build 12.51.50 Quit InsDel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.52.18 # wodz: can you try it out? I see you didnt liuke the idea so much? 12.53.41 # JdGordon: patch --binary -p0 < ./playlistchanges.1.diff 12.53.42 # can't find file to patch at input line 5 12.53.44 # Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option? 12.53.59 # -p1 12.54.13 # and it isnt binary 12.55.15 # JdGordon: does that mean just leave out the --binary? Also it's asking for "File to patch:" can I just CTRL-C? 12.55.38 # hmm... this is going to need some extra tweaking for party mode 12.55.42 # eWill: yes yes 12.56.30 # JdGordon: what particularly should I look for? 12.57.32 # you use m3us to start playback right? so just do as you normally would and let us know if it is too much of a change 12.57.55 # ok 13.01.35 Quit LambdaCalculus37 (Quit: work time) 13.02.02 # wodz: ah, never mind, m3u default action hasnt changed yet 13.03.35 # although, do we really want .m3u to open in the viewer if openeed thrugh the file browser instead of the catalog viewer? 13.07.48 # JdGordon: Sure, I'm not about the next couple of nights, but will do after that 13.08.01 # I also still need to do a couple of other things that are on the tracker 13.08.20 # scorche: Can you add a Packard Bell installation sub forum please? 13.08.36 # yay :) 13.08.37 # doesnt look like this is actually ready yet though... too many damn changes 13.08.43 # I would prefer to simple 'run' m3u when selected from file browser. For anything else I don care 13.17.54 Join [Saint] [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.2.14) 13.19.55 # JdGordon: I can't build it. 13.19.58 Join teru [0] (~teru@KD059133111160.ppp.dion.ne.jp) 13.21.04 # hi teru 13.21.13 # whats the story with your rockbox_browse() patch? 13.21.14 # JdGordon: hi 13.21.33 # apps/playlist_catalog.o: In function `display_playlists': 13.21.34 # playlist_catalog.c:(.text+0x1c8): undefined reference to `strncpy' 13.21.36 # collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 13.21.37 # make: *** [/rockbox/build-fuzev2/rockbox.elf] Error 1 13.21.38 # make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs.... 13.22.47 # grr 13.23.42 # JdGordon: in my testing, it works ok, so i'm going to commit at least browse.patch in FS#11777. 13.25.17 # ok, any idea when? 13.26.46 # if there isn't objection or something like, today or tomorrow 13.27.29 # ok 13.29.19 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@host195-190-dynamic.252-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 13.29.50 Quit The_Pwny (Quit: Pull the pin and count to what?) 13.33.26 # wodz: eWill: ok, new version up, please test 13.34.18 # on it... 13.35.34 # JdGordon: what's the command to revert all modified files? 13.36.13 # svn revert -R . 13.36.13 # or git reset -- hard 13.37.01 Join marines [0] (~marines@marvin.uplink.cz) 13.37.39 Join Seed [0] (~ben@192.118.11.111) 13.38.07 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 13.38.08 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@g224238184.adsl.alicedsl.de) 13.38.08 Quit bluebrother (Changing host) 13.38.08 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 13.40.09 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 13.41.32 Quit bluebroth3r (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 13.43.39 Join [Saint] [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.2.14) 13.46.47 # New commit by 03moos (r28829): Romanian translation update. ... 13.48.50 # r28829 build result: All green 13.49.44 # New commit by 03moos (r28830): Oops, the credit file wasn't updated for the previous revision aka FS#11691 13.51.12 # JdGordon: Hotkey on WPS give me "no files" message box. 13.51.34 # tell me in the tracker.. and what is it set to? 13.51.42 # r28830 build result: All green 13.52.38 # ok, and it's set to "View Current Playlist" 13.56.38 # it would be cool if you could see the commit message (or the first row if it is longer) in the subject of the mails in the cvs-list 13.56.42 # JdGordon: I get the same "no files" message on Main Menu > Playlists. I may not have a playlist where it's looking. Where is it looking? 13.57.30 # Stummi: why? You're supposed to read through the entire diff anyway! ;) 13.58.36 # this would make easier to pick out the commits, which i am interessted :p 13.58.59 # you have to be interested in all commits ;) 13.59.07 Quit elcan (Remote host closed the connection) 13.59.32 # hehe, good point 14.01.15 # JdGordon: OK, if I put a playlist in /playlists then WPS Hotkey shows me a list of playlist files in that folder. Though Hotkey is still set to "View Current Playlist". I'll put this on the tracker and stop typing here. 14.08.26 Quit krabador (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 14.12.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.17.27 Part marines 14.20.47 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@host158-230-dynamic.252-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 14.28.38 Join elcan [0] (user36@pr0.us) 14.28.59 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@cpe-24-193-43-185.nyc.res.rr.com) 14.29.46 # how do i know when an ipod is actually charging? 14.29.58 # and not just running on the battery while its plugged in 14.30.35 # because somehow mine isn't getting full >_< 14.31.52 # i plugged it in last night, this morning (~7 hours later) it was showing as just under half full 14.32.06 # and thats how it has stayed ever since (abother ~5 hours) 14.33.46 # under rockbox, or the original firmware? 14.33.56 # rockbox 14.34.10 # otherwise i probably wouldn't ask here ;) 14.34.53 # have you enabled usb charging? :) 14.35.14 # anyway, go to debug -> view battery then scroll down a couple of times till you get to a page of text info 14.35.25 # should say various stuff that may be interesting 14.35.32 # if it's an ipod video it will show the charge current 14.35.37 # but i don't think we have that reading on other models 14.36.04 # usb charging is set to "Yes" 14.36.31 # where is the debug menu? 14.36.45 # its a first generation mini 14.36.51 # A1051 14.37.00 # are you using a PC, or an AC adapter? 14.37.33 # PC with the USB link cable 14.37.55 # and is the PC actually one? 14.37.57 # on, even? 14.38.01 # New commit by 03teru (r28831): FS#11777: enhancement for rockbox_browse() ... 14.38.19 # yeah, its on and when i plug it in i can see the mass storage device 14.38.42 # that should charge fine. 14.38.56 # well it does but only to about half capacity 14.39.27 # what does the "force" setting for usb charging do differently than just "yes" ? 14.39.48 # it lets it charge in the absence of positive identification of a safe power source 14.39.54 # it won't make any difference for an active PC 14.40.04 # we can always identify an active USB host. 14.40.18 # r28831 build result: All green 14.40.20 # anyway, it should work fine as far as I know 14.40.43 # I tested every ipod model with an inline current meter going through all the combinations of settings/hosts at devcon befor ei committed the ipod charging code ;) 14.41.08 # i just plugged it into my usb gadget supply that leaves the data lines floating 14.41.14 # That won't work 14.41.21 # and the battery icon starts to pulse even if its set to "yes" 14.41.35 # That's not relevant 14.41.44 # o.O 14.41.46 # It still may charge, but it only draws a maximum of 100mA current from the host 14.42.00 # the current limit has nothing to do with whether the charging icon appears or not 14.42.12 # the charging icon is literally just "do we have external power and a non-full battery" 14.42.49 # to charge from just power on the USB lines without a data connection you need to set the setting to "force" for now 14.42.57 # hello, how can I disable the USB Keypad Mode please? can't find it 14.42.59 # nobody has implemented charger detectection yet 14.43.19 # and even if we had, it wouldn't work with a device that leaves the data lines floating because that's not a valid charger 14.43.39 # burn: USB HID 14.43.43 # burn: why do you want to disable it, though? 14.43.56 # Torne: I want to listen to it while it charges 14.44.06 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.44.08 # that's nothing to do with whether the device functions as a keypad 14.44.14 # i just put a DMM in series. you're right, its only drawing 100mA from the gadget supply 14.44.26 # amee2k: yes, I coded it that way, i know :) 14.44.28 # Torne: it stopt playing when I connect it to the computer 14.44.41 # if you want to charge the device without connecting to a USB host, then read the manual for your device to see what button you have to hold to enable charging-only mode 14.45.02 # it's in the quick start section, under USB charging 14.45.45 # amee2k: whether 100mA is enough to meaningfully charge or not depends which ipod, what settings, whether the lcd is on at that time, whether storage is being accessed, etc 14.45.59 # amee2k: it's usually enough to slowly charge an idle player, over the course of 12 hours or so 14.46.16 # but 500mA charging is way faster, of course 14.46.28 # it was on the PC for like 12 hours straight now 14.46.43 # has it fully charged before? 14.46.44 # ran up to half full quicky, and now its not doing anything 14.46.47 # maybe your battery is just shot 14.46.56 # if it charged *at all* then it pretty much must be working 14.46.57 # the battery is new 14.47.03 # define new 14.47.13 # i put it in yesterday afternoon 14.47.19 # yes, but where did you buy it from 14.47.23 # amazon 14.47.32 # there's no guarantee that's new, you know 14.47.46 # many replacement batteries you can buy online have been sitting in a warehouse for years 14.48.03 # hmmm 14.48.43 # Torne: it seems the Ipod mini hasn't such a button 14.48.49 # burn: yes it does 14.48.53 # is there a way to get good replacements at all then? 14.49.14 # amee2k: buying from a vendor with a good reputation 14.49.21 # i mean, you'll never know how old your cells are IRL, even if you go to the shop 14.49.22 # amee2k: anyway, that may not be it, that's just one thing i felt i should point out :) 14.49.33 # burn: it is in the manual exactly where i told you it was 14.49.47 Nick shai_ is now known as shai (~Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 14.49.50 # i've been ripped off with "high capacity" cells before ;) 14.50.00 # I'm reporting a bug in a tracker patch. Is the term for holding down a button for a few seconds to get a different function called a "long click"? 14.50.15 # NiMH AA cells that ended up with barely 20% their rated capacity 14.51.06 # eWill: long press, normally 14.51.15 # amee2k: anyway, try charging it under the original firmware 14.51.27 # amee2k: if that goes to a noticably higher charge leveln once you boot back to rockbox then maybe there's a problem 14.51.37 # hmmm isn't there a special key to boot what remains of the stock firmware? 14.51.38 # so "long press Select" for the "Select" button? 14.51.40 # but if it's about the same then the battery is probably just crappy 14.51.43 # eWill: yes 14.51.48 # amee2k: "what remains" is all of it 14.51.54 # rockbox doesn't remove any part of the original firmware 14.52.03 # oh, cool 14.52.04 # power on the player by holding menu 14.52.12 # or power on the player then immediately turn hold on. 14.52.19 # that will boot the OF 14.52.30 # you need to hard reset the device to get back out of it, though 14.53.16 # cool, it worked :) 14.53.47 # Torne: I'm sorry, it really isn't there 14.53.53 # i plugged it back into the computer. battery icon is pulsing like on RB now, with an arrow symbol on the side 14.53.55 # burn: I am looking at it right now 14.53.58 # burn: so, you are wrong. 14.54.11 # and it shows the odd "do not disconnect" message again 14.54.21 # Torne: which button then? I've opened the Ipod Mini doc 14.54.31 # http://support.apple.com/manuals/#ipodmini 14.54.36 # burn: er 14.54.45 # burn: look in the *rockbox manual* for your device 14.54.48 # under quick start, usb charging 14.54.54 # why would it be on Apple's site? 14.54.55 # ow there! :) 14.55.03 # what does that have to do with rockbox? :) 14.55.32 # Torne: hm... but you /can/ force it through software to charge at full speed from any source that supplies enough voltage, right? 14.55.48 # amee2k: It's physically possible, yes, but rockbox doesn't 14.55.49 # and query how much current it is set to draw 14.56.10 # If you choose "force" then it will wait a short time after connection to see if a USB host talks to it, and if not, start drawing 500 14.56.18 # Torne: indeed, it works, thanks 14.56.20 # if a USB host talks to it then it will obey whatever the host tells it to do 14.56.25 # even while set to force. 14.56.35 # yeah, makes sense 14.56.53 # i'm also wondering if there is a way to indicate the charge current on the display 14.57.01 # Not currently 14.57.04 # (haw haw) 14.57.08 # hehe 14.57.13 # i forget if i added it to the debug screen or not 14.57.26 # if i did, it would be under view battery 14.57.51 # i don't think i did, though; the ipodvideo which is my main target has an actual battery current meter, i.e. how much is actually going in/out of the battery, not just what was requested 14.57.54 # gtg to uni soon. i'll leave it on the PC with the apple firmware running until tonight 14.57.56 # so i didn't need it. 14.58.31 # where is the debug menu anyway? 14.58.38 # i can't seem to find it 14.58.50 # you could look in the manual :) 14.58.54 # it's under system, though. 14.59.06 # hm... then i missed it 14.59.08 # view battery has multiple pages, scroll to move through them 14.59.18 # there's no indication that you *can* scroll, but you can. 14.59.41 # oh, the display just changed 14.59.59 # the do not disconnect is gone and it shows "charging" and a full screen battery symbol 15.00.08 # .pppnnpppnn 15.00.11 # pulsing with the arrow on the side, like the small one 15.00.21 # ...ppppnn.... 15.00.27 # oops 15.00.47 # i just discovered what usb keypad mode is for :) 15.01.12 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lem0n@151.62.132.151) 15.01.13 # That would be what it's for, yes 15.04.27 Join TheSeven|Mobile [0] (~theseven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 15.06.32 Join komputes [0] (~komputes@ubuntu/member/komputes) 15.06.56 Join evilnick_B [0] (0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 15.07.46 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15.09.22 Join [Saint] [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.158) 15.21.07 Join tchan1 [0] (~tchan@c-69-243-144-187.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 15.21.50 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@87-206-240-131.dynamic.chello.pl) 15.25.23 # JdGordon: added two new bugs 15.26.59 Quit tchan1 (Remote host closed the connection) 15.29.23 Part LinusN 15.29.52 Join tchan1 [0] (~tchan@c-69-243-144-187.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 15.32.29 Join hebz0rl [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-065-048-185.pools.arcor-ip.net) 15.34.46 Quit tchan1 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15.39.06 Join tchan1 [0] (~tchan@c-69-243-144-187.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 15.42.47 Quit CaptainKewl (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15.44.46 Quit tchan1 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 15.45.53 Join tchan1 [0] (~tchan@c-69-243-144-187.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 16.00.16 Quit teru (Quit: Quit) 16.12.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.12.46 Quit Keripo1 (Quit: Leaving.) 16.23.08 Quit balintx (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16.32.34 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 16.41.21 Quit burn (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 16.41.53 Join toffe82 [0] (~chatzilla@maf.wirelesstcp.net) 16.43.24 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-178-203-85-85.unitymediagroup.de) 16.44.37 Quit Zambezi (Changing host) 16.44.37 Join Zambezi [0] (Zulu@unaffiliated/zambezi) 16.50.07 Join burn [0] (~burn@cl-1079.bru-01.be.sixxs.net) 16.50.08 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 16.50.27 Join ReimuHakurei_ [0] (~reimu@74.112.212.15) 16.50.29 Quit ReimuHakurei (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.53.30 Quit ender (Quit: Calling ‘atheism’ a religion is like calling ‘bald’ a hair color. -- Don Hirschberg) 17.04.30 Join evilnick_ [0] (~evilnick@cpe-24-193-43-185.nyc.res.rr.com) 17.07.20 Part Zagor 17.07.28 Quit evilnick (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.11.14 Quit antil33t (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 17.15.44 Join Llorean1 [0] (~DarkkOne@65.104.0.180.ptr.us.xo.net) 17.16.32 Join m|c [0] (~mtq@h1439481.stratoserver.net) 17.18.18 Join guymann [0] (~charles@69.0.8.105) 17.18.18 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@adsl-99-36-12-236.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 17.18.18 Quit jhMikeS (Changing host) 17.18.18 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 17.18.18 Quit _jhMikeS_ (Disconnected by services) 17.18.27 Join logiclost [0] (~lostlogic@erudite.lostlogicx.com) 17.18.28 Join zu_ [0] (~zu@ks355000.kimsufi.com) 17.18.56 # Bertrik: were you going to commit the crossfeed patch any time soon? 17.22.11 Join jordan` [0] (~jordan@jem75-13-78-235-252-137.fbx.proxad.net) 17.23.19 Quit BlakeJohnson86 (*.net *.split) 17.23.19 Quit literal (*.net *.split) 17.23.19 Quit lostlogic (*.net *.split) 17.23.19 Quit guymann_ (*.net *.split) 17.23.19 Quit Llorean (*.net *.split) 17.23.19 Quit jordan`` (*.net *.split) 17.23.19 Quit miceh (*.net *.split) 17.23.19 Quit timccc (*.net *.split) 17.23.19 Quit simonrvn (*.net *.split) 17.23.20 Quit crwl (*.net *.split) 17.23.20 Quit zu (*.net *.split) 17.23.34 Quit TheSeven|Mobile (Remote host closed the connection) 17.27.45 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@87-206-240-131.dynamic.chello.pl) 17.28.37 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-174-240.student.uu.se) 17.28.37 Quit n1s (Changing host) 17.28.37 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 17.30.10 Join crwl [0] (~crwlll@dsl-jklbrasgw1-fe10fb00-173.dhcp.inet.fi) 17.31.33 Join BlakeJohnson86 [0] (~bjohnson@c-24-118-162-123.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 17.31.55 Join timccc [0] (~timccc@112.166.15.141) 17.32.56 Join balintx [0] (~quassel@szerver1.gulyasp-koll.sulinet.hu) 17.34.50 # how can I check in which configuration ATA drive is? Issue ATA_IDENTIFY and parse the output? 17.35.28 # yes 17.35.38 # you can't do very much without parsing IDENTIFY 17.38.35 # so If I 1) call rockbox ata initialization 2) get IDENTIFY 512bytes 3)toggle ata reset line 4)get IDENTIFY 512bytes this two responses should differ right? 17.39.11 Quit balintx (Remote host closed the connection) 17.39.28 Join balintx [0] (~quassel@szerver1.gulyasp-koll.sulinet.hu) 17.40.31 # a few things will change back to their reset state, yeah 17.40.34 # multisector count and the like 17.40.41 # why? 17.41.19 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 17.42.31 Quit mortalscan (Remote host closed the connection) 17.42.45 Join mortalscan [0] (~mortalsca@109.169.55.155) 17.43.41 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 17.44.08 Quit [Saint] (Quit: I'm only going to Heaven if it feels like Hell, I'm only going to Heaven if it tastes like caramel...) 17.44.29 # When entering usb mode in rockbox GL811E chip doesn't like the state in which rb leaves drive. The only way I found out to workaround this is power cycling the drive. I think toggling ATA reset should be sufficient (and cleaner) but it doesn't work. 17.45.17 # I want to check 1) if ata hard reset works 2) maybe grab the configuration of the drive in which bridge chip leaves it 17.46.34 Quit panni_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.47.04 Quit Llorean1 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.48.51 Join [Saint] [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.35) 17.52.17 Join simonrvn [0] (simon@197.112-ppp.3menatwork.com) 17.52.57 Nick simonrvn is now known as Guest28274 (simon@197.112-ppp.3menatwork.com) 17.55.31 Join literal [0] (hinrik@v.nix.is) 18.02.12 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@f054224194.adsl.alicedsl.de) 18.04.36 Quit [Saint] (Quit: I'm only going to Heaven if it feels like Hell, I'm only going to Heaven if it tastes like caramel...) 18.05.16 Quit Topy (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 18.06.22 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 18.09.26 Join [Saint] [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.28) 18.12.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.13.38 Quit Dreamxtreme (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.14.03 Join Dreamxtreme [0] (~Dre@92.30.19.175) 18.15.49 Quit petur (Quit: Page closed) 18.16.35 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 18.20.53 # make && make zip --- 8 minutes in Cygwin (on Win7 x64). 18.21.13 # Athlon II x2 250 @3600MHz 18.24.23 # use linux dude :-) 18.25.09 # I have ubuntu in a VM (2m36s). I was just testing. It's definitely more worth it to boot Ubuntu. 18.25.19 # 2m 18.25.31 # 2m36s = build time 18.26.02 # what target are you building? 18.26.22 # Is there some general rule as to what-kind/how-big a change to the source necessitates re-running configure, or cleaning the build dir? 18.26.59 # if you run a native linux, running make with 2 concurrent jobs would probably be faster (i don't know if/how cygwin or vm handles multicore) 18.27.14 # I do make clean when build doesn't work 18.27.56 # eWill: you almost never need to rerun configure but if the configure script was modified after your Make file was generated it will print a warning 18.28.30 # make clean is usually needed when the dependencies change (files added or (re)moved) 18.29.13 # I think changing some defines is not catched also 18.30.43 # probably if those defines change which files are compiled 18.33.23 # wodz: I'm buiding Fuze v2 18.34.19 # I forgot to mention that both build were from an empty build dir. 18.35.57 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 18.36.41 # Ubuntu (in VMware) was definitely using both cores right. The 2m36s time was actually from "make -j3 && make zip -j 3". I just ran "make && make zip" and it took 6m44s. 18.37.20 # *type fixed: make -j 3 && make zip -j 3 18.38.03 # now I'll build in Cygwin without the "-j 3" and see what it does... 18.43.10 Quit Stummi (Excess Flood) 18.44.26 Join Stummi [0] (Stummi@rockbox/developer/Stummi) 18.46.27 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 18.51.04 # Cygwin build time without "-j 3" = 11m53s 18.51.11 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 18.51.19 Join domonoky1 [0] (~Domonoky@agsb-4d040bbe.pool.mediaWays.net) 18.52.45 Quit domonoky (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18.52.50 # building the eabi toolchain in Cygwin took little over 2 hours. I wonder if "rockboxdev.sh -j 3" would have sped it up...? 18.54.21 # <[Saint]> no, but you can add the -j flag to the make command in the rockboxdev,sh script. 18.55.00 # wow. Thanks. 18.55.06 # cygwin can never be speedy, you can only select between very slow and ridiculously slow 18.55.42 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 18.59.31 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 19.00.12 # [Saint]: Change this line "$make" to "$make -j 3", right? 19.00.28 # <[Saint]> correct. 19.01.25 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (~3f74f70d@giant.haxx.se) 19.01.42 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 19.03.44 Join earcar [0] (~carmine@93-39-232-82.ip78.fastwebnet.it) 19.09.23 # Torne: thanks, your original firmware trick worked :) 19.09.52 # when i came back it had RB running again (without me resetting the ipod) and its showing full battery now 19.10.13 # i hope i don't have to reboot it every time i want a full charge lol 19.11.28 # oh, and i also found the battery debug thing. it shows power charging/discharging, battery voltage, and charger present/absent 19.12.14 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 19.14.23 # i'm still somewhat confused why i can configure a battery capacity in mAh in the settings menu 19.14.39 # what does it use that for? 19.14.55 Join Chesteta [0] (~4394a340@giant.haxx.se) 19.15.08 # To estimate remaining runtime 19.15.33 # amee2k: if you replace battery it may have different capacity than original one 19.16.18 # well, yeah. but the rated capacity isn't important for anything really. its not even given on the package of mine 19.16.34 # rapidshare or someother free file hosting site) 19.16.36 # but the actual capacity will drift over time anyway 19.16.53 Quit krabador (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 19.16.54 Quit Guest28274 (Read error: No route to host) 19.17.06 # so what can it use the configuration value for? 19.17.23 # and how do i know what to set it to? 19.19.02 # eWill: if you manage to get things to build for the fuzev2 and apply the usb patch would you be willing to post it to rapidshare or some sort of free file swapping site? I have not been able to get cygwin to build for quite some time but have wanted to test the usb patch 19.21.33 # amee2k: Have you ever saw mobile device taking into account battery age? This is something not possible with simple hardware. 19.21.33 # TheSeven: Is there anything you would like for me to try out with the iPod Classic? 19.21.58 # s/ever saw/ever seen/ 19.22.44 # LambdaCalculus37: not yet... i need to package something in a more usable way first 19.23.01 # that doesn't exactly answer the question ;) 19.27.27 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 19.29.09 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 19.29.34 Quit LambdaCalculus37 (Quit: back to the salt mines) 19.30.39 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@host65-21-dynamic.251-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 19.33.21 Quit user890104 (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 19.34.08 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 19.35.00 Quit earcar (Quit: bye) 19.38.20 # Chesteta: you should probably not use cygwin, the vmware image is much easier to build 19.38.23 Join YDS10-YDS11SL [0] (~Robert_Se@75-145-131-94-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) 19.39.12 # saratoga: how do I get that setup? do i have to buy vmware or anything? 19.39.44 # Chesteta: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/DevelopmentGuide 19.40.09 # saratoga: I am running windows 7 if that matters at all, also thats part of the reason i wanted to test fuzev2 19.40.21 # it doesn't matter at all 19.40.28 # installed 3.7.1 and it changed the wps to white on black with an eq.... how do I get my theme back? 19.41.18 # usually that means your theme is too old to work with the current build 19.41.34 # assuming you downloaded it from the theme site, you should be able to download an updated version from there 19.41.37 # ty.. will check 19.42.52 # saratoga: should i get the "Recommended for someone just wanting to compile rockbox" one? basically i need to be ableto applypatches 19.43.03 # its up to you 19.43.12 # but that one can apply patches? 19.43.30 # any build environment can build rockbox 19.44.02 # ok great, i just didnt know what that version was 'lacking' or if it would impact applying patches 19.47.33 # that wouldn't make any sense 19.47.53 # Chesteta: what on the wiki made you think the vmware version was lacking something? 19.50.02 # well it used to lack the compiler, so you had to run one extra step to build it 19.50.08 # but thats fixed 19.50.44 # n1s: the wording "just wanting to compile rockbox", I would think that applying patches is more than just compiling, then again I do not know what the version that is geared towards rockbox development would have different either 19.51.30 # basically its my lack of knowledge on the topic that led me to not understand :) 19.52.05 # saratoga: so the vmware image we provide has the arm-eabi toolchain? 19.52.21 # yeah i updated them the other day 19.52.42 # nice 19.52.53 # but honestly they're so terrible in other respects its probably better to just download a stock ubuntu or debian image from sourceforge and then run rockboxdev.sh 19.54.31 # hmm, yes the wiki says "may be lacking for someone interested in serious development" about the vmware image 19.54.53 # which i can see could be confusing 19.55.02 # saratoga: how is the image terrible? 19.56.05 # n1s: no gnome/kde, apt-get is so out of date it doesn't work so you can't update things, vmware format is so old it can't be used in virtualbox, and I couldn't get it to copy/paste to the command line no matter how hard i tried 19.56.26 # oh 19.56.28 # typing flyspray addresses to wget them == no fun 19.56.51 # well, the first pint is intentional but the other stuff sounds bad 19.56.59 # s/pint/point/ 19.57.10 # having gnome or kde is nice if you actually plan to do development 19.57.44 # when i used it i just set up the svn checkout in the vm on a network share and used a windows editor 19.57.45 # * gevaerts has to disagree with that, but he won't argue :) 19.58.17 # also, we explicitly tell users to grab some ancient version of vmware since it doesn't require you to register, but it also doesn't seem to support multicore and lags badly on my machine 19.58.21 # anyway i don't really see whay we should distribute vm's at all now that we have rockboxdev.sh 19.58.33 # true 19.58.57 # Some detailed instructions for a debian or ubuntu vm would be better I think 19.59.00 # we should probably just point people at the Ubuntu 10.10 virtualbox image and tell them to run rockboxdev.sh 19.59.06 # Easier to maintain for a start... 19.59.22 # thats what i ended up doing, took about 2 minutes to setup ignoring the 600MB download 19.59.59 # gevaerts: yes, indeed 20.00.15 # pretty much just double click the image, sudo apt-get install build-essential svn, svn co ..., then sudo rockboxdev.sh 20.00.35 Quit mystica555_ (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 20.00.49 # We could actually provide a script that does all that 20.03.33 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 20.04.12 # ipodvideo...... Rockbox 3.7..... theme supported thru 3.7, but I get a black on white wps? 20.05.26 # did you update it? 20.05.43 Join user890104 [0] (Venci@venci-notebook-lan.ipv6.6bez10.info) 20.05.51 # downgraded from 3.7.1 20.06.48 # no the theme 20.06.55 # did you update it? 20.07.36 Join marines [0] (~marines@marvin.uplink.cz) 20.07.47 # yes rockbox from 3.7.1 to 3.7 which the author of the theme says will work 20.07.47 # woot 20.07.58 # Undefined instruction at 30138E48 20.08.05 # sansa c200v2 20.08.27 # build 28828 20.09.03 # YDS10-YDS11SL: did you actually REdownload the theme from the theme site? 20.09.12 # YDS10-YDS11SL: i'm not asking about rockbox, i'm asking about the theme, you have a version on your player that does not support 3.7, and a version on the web that does, did you try the version that says it supports 3.7 on your player? 20.09.53 # i caught up to you d/l the theme and trying again 20.12.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.16.10 Join InsDel [0] (~haqr.net@unaffiliated/insdel) 20.16.29 # still comes up b/w 20.16.32 # do we ever execute code from inside the audio buffer? 20.17.01 # lost you 20.17.19 # saratoga: no, codecs are buffered there but are copied to the codec buffer first 20.17.38 # ok 20.18.07 # marines: that address is in the audio buffer, so no idea why it was trying to load an instruction from there 20.19.52 # it happened while listening mp3s 20.20.37 # i think the c200v2 has playback issues since theres so little RAM on that target 20.20.54 # our buffering code sometimes gets into trouble with an extremely small buffer size 20.21.09 # amee2k: that's not good, you know; it should charge just fine in rockbox 20.21.14 # amee2k: can you get a meter on it? 20.25.44 # i thought v2 has more RAM than v1 20.26.41 Join designate72 [0] (~aaron@adsl-065-013-002-216.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 20.27.07 Part YDS10-YDS11SL 20.31.32 Join jgarvey [0] (~jgarvey@cpe-065-190-066-089.nc.res.rr.com) 20.35.50 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 20.37.18 Quit Chesteta (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 20.39.28 # marines: no (32 vs 2 MB) 20.40.35 Join Kupop [0] (~Kupo@cpc2-bsfd7-2-0-cust220.5-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 20.41.23 # v1 has 32MB of RAM? 20.41.57 Quit JesusFreak316 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 20.48.49 # yeah 20.49.12 # most older players had 32 MB of RAM 20.52.30 Quit balintx (Remote host closed the connection) 20.53.36 # Torne: as in, hack up a USB cable so i can monitor the current draw? 20.54.08 # sure, but it'll take a moment 20.56.43 Join balintx [0] (~quassel@szerver1.gulyasp-koll.sulinet.hu) 20.57.28 Join antil33t [0] (antil33t@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 21.01.21 # amee2k: any progress on RaaA? 21.02.20 # i can't belive it, my first PC had 32MB of RAM 21.02.36 # now audio players it :P 21.02.43 # *have it 21.03.02 # oh, cool. my first ipod had that too :) 21.03.08 # well, has actually 21.03.14 # * amee2k runs 21.03.26 # kugel: not yet. i'm still trying to figure out where my profiling attempt went off the tracks, but i'm a bit stalled right now due to lots of other stuff getting in the way 21.04.58 # actually, coming to think about it my first one also had 32M 21.05.26 # well, first desktop anyway 21.05.28 # it was a 300MHz K6-2 with 4GB HDD 21.05.45 # but before that i had an old laptop too... but the specs beat me after all these years 21.08.56 # amee2k: profiling builds deadlocks in pthread_join it seems 21.09.29 # o.O 21.09.55 # my man page only said that it will only profile the main thread, which incidentially is the offending one 21.10.07 # so i figured there wouldn't be too many proplems 21.10.56 # well, 10 out of 11 threads exit, the last one waits for another one to finish 21.11.06 # but somehow i can't get it to properly vomit the profiling info file at the end 21.11.18 # although I think the main thread creation isn't shown so it'd be 12 total threads 21.11.26 # I can't get it to exit 21.11.35 # hm. 21.11.41 # well, mine did exit 21.11.49 # i just didn't get the file :/ 21.12.41 # i also don't get a file 21.13.15 # can I make a function return in gdb? 21.13.58 # from what i can dig up the profiling thing uses an exit handler to create the file, but don't take my word for that should lives depend on it 21.14.49 # i used to do "call exit()" in gdb before you made the F6 patch 21.15.24 Quit Kupop (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 21.15.29 # yea that doesn't work :) 21.15.45 # You could try to call that handler yourself from gdb 21.15.51 Join simonrvn [0] (simon@197.112-ppp.3menatwork.com) 21.16.49 # if it uses an exit handler then call exit(0) should work 21.17.06 # yeah... at least thats what i thought 21.17.26 Join sinthetek [0] (~sinthetek@cpe-174-111-239-037.triad.res.rr.com) 21.17.26 Quit sinthetek (Changing host) 21.17.26 Join sinthetek [0] (~sinthetek@unaffiliated/sinthetek) 21.18.14 # Unless other exit handlers get in the way 21.18.36 # hmm integrating ppm plugin with imageviewer will be nice 21.19.41 # amee2k: another page says it puts the file into the working dir, so if a program calls chdir() it will pop up in a different place 21.19.54 # a getcwd() when it freezes suggests the cwd is at / 21.20.22 # (int)(((float)LCD_WIDTH / (float)cols) * (float)rows); <- nice line in terms of rockbox. 21.20.55 # kugel: nothing there either, and i did run it as root on the dev system 21.21.14 # it still has a permissions issue with the framebuffer that i was too lazy to fix 21.22.54 Join dantje [0] (~dvg@HSI-KBW-091-089-103-221.hsi2.kabelbw.de) 21.24.26 # anyway downgrading memory capacity from 32MB to 2MB sounds ridiculous 21.25.26 # kugel: i just ran find / -name '*.out'; nada 21.26.03 # marines: not for accountant 21.27.18 # amee2k: breaking on exit and going through all the exit handlers shows none which looks like coming from profiling 21.28.38 # kugel: do you have a way to check whether the process image contains the string "gprof.out" somewhere? 21.28.42 # ;] 21.28.46 # or whatever the file was called again 21.29.31 Quit simonrvn (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.30.06 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@rockbox/user/Llorean) 21.31.40 # Is there a way to not log trackers to last.fm log that i play less then a given time say 5secs 21.31.53 # so if i skip the track it doesnt log 21.32.58 # *tracks even 21.33.12 Quit Farthen (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 21.34.48 Join part [0] (part@62.220.235.11) 21.34.49 # amee2k: $ strings rockbox | grep gmon 21.34.50 # __gmon_start__ 21.35.29 # Dreamxtreme: I don't use the feature, but I seem to recall either Rockbox or the upload tool already addresses this in some way 21.36.10 # o cool ok thanks i'll havent uploaded any yet but i just looked at the log 21.39.19 # Could someone add me to the WikiUsersGroup, my wikiname is TeemuHukkanen. Thanks. 21.40.23 # Dreamxtreme: The logic is that if the song is < 60 seconds then it shouldn't scrobble, or if you play < 50% it shouldn't scrobble. 21.40.44 # Dreamxtreme: yes, the uploading interface handles the logic there 21.40.56 # yes i see it now :D 21.40.56 # Dreamxtreme: Also, on the logfile, you might notice that the last column is either L or S. L = listened to, and S = skipped 21.41.07 # using http://scrob.paulstead.com 21.41.30 # excellent thanks 21.41.35 # part: done. Welcome! 21.41.37 # love this player 21.41.53 # gevaerts: thanks 21.43.04 # scorche|sh: ping 21.44.46 # amee2k: a test program produces gmon.out but I can't open it with gprof :\ 21.44.48 Join Luca_S [0] (~57113b1a@giant.haxx.se) 21.45.16 # My FuzeV2 no longer connects on USB, not even with the OF :( it charges only 21.45.35 # could it be the cable maybe? 21.45.42 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54A3BFF4.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.47.35 # TheSeven: did you find any information about the iPod classic's DAC from cirrus logic yet? 21.47.44 # nope 21.47.59 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 21.48.00 # gprof: gmon.out: not in executable format 21.48.10 # but most (if not all) cirrus codecs seem to have publicly-available datasheets 21.48.11 # no, wait... neither other USB gadgets work... maybe it's the pc...rebooting 21.48.12 # TheSeven: I've googled a bit and found this -> http://kthx.ath.cx/trac/nc600/attachment/wiki/Hardware/NC600/CS42L52_F1.pdf 21.48.22 Quit Luca_S (Client Quit) 21.48.25 # so it's hopefully just a matter of digging through all of them and probing registers 21.49.13 # kugel: maybe its in a lib linked in from somewhere at runtime, but i don't like the smell of that :/ 21.49.28 # how did you modify the build process to enable profiling? 21.49.44 # TheSeven: this codec is referenced in a review and is stated to be used in the classic as well -> http://digital8.org/reviews/ramos-t13-fhd-review-kenand-959.html 21.49.46 # just add -pg to GCCOPTS? 21.49.50 # yea 21.50.53 # * TheSeven wonders where those guys got that information from 21.51.00 # but yes, it's very valuable information 21.51.15 # a good starting point at least 21.51.54 # however, "The sound output of the device is very good." doesn't match several reports for the ipod classic :) 21.52.05 # (but that probably depends on measuring equipment) 21.52.14 # hehe, I thought the same 21.52.58 # Luca_S: time to buy more Sansas! 21.53.26 # amee2k: the file is created in _mcleanup() which isn't called from RaaA (its symbol isn't even in the binary) 21.53.35 # Buschel: how did you manage to find that post? 21.54.19 # just googled for "ipod classic cirrus logic" 21.54.28 # :) 21.55.29 # funny 21.55.43 # however, there doesn't seem to be anything responding on i2c address 0x94 :/ 21.55.49 # at least not on the first bus 21.55.56 # mmmh, this is annoying 21.55.57 # (and the second bus doesn't work at all - need to figure out why) 21.56.32 # it could also just be powered down 21.56.38 # * TheSeven checks the PMU 21.57.03 # there are two rails powered down, one at 3.000V and one at 3.300V 21.57.06 # might be one of those 21.57.34 # amee2k: oh ha! you also need to add it to LDOPTS (or GLOBAL_LDOPTS) 21.58.09 # I have a gmon.out for RaaA now 21.58.21 # but gprof still doesn't like to open it 21.59.01 # i wonder how that reviewer knows what DAC the ipod classic uses? 21.59.22 # * kugel slaps forehead 21.59.40 # works now 22.01.01 # saratoga: possibly from here: http://www.waybeta.com/news/1004/hd-quotcorequot-state-yin-yue-department-of-t17fhd-user-evaluation-dismantling-_-blue-devils-mp3/2/ 22.01.21 # "Audio DAC 42L52CNZ from the crystal company, IPOD Classic also uses the company's DAC." 22.01.28 # which would be clearly misinterpreted then 22.01.54 Join Luca_S [0] (~57113b1a@giant.haxx.se) 22.02.04 # so i guess someone at cirrus must have mentioned it 22.02.12 # since as far as I can tell no one has reverse engineered it 22.04.04 # saratoga: if only they were easier to find in shops! I bought mine while casually walking in Milan, about 800km from home :) (I don't buy online things that cost more than 25 Euros, too difficult to handle RMA / refunds / guarantees...) 22.04.19 # in this case however a good power cycling did the trick ;) 22.04.26 # Luca_S: ah, they're dirt cheap in the US 22.04.33 # my suspicion is that this guy stated that uses a cirrus 42l52cnz codec (same company as the one in the ipod classic), and the other guy interpreted wrongly and said that uses a cirrus 42l52cnz codec (same codec as the one in the ipod classic) 22.04.55 # ah 22.05.15 # well at least you have a suspected company 22.05.26 # if you find a few registers it might be possible to find a datasheet 22.06.02 Join JesusFreak316 [0] (~JesusFrea@pool-173-65-30-16.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) 22.06.13 # yeah, that company suspicion is very widespread, but apparently also based on reverse engineering (someone uncapped the chip?) 22.06.25 # * TheSeven needs to do a full i2c bus scan 22.07.59 # most of the other ipod DACs were figured out by starting with the wolfson logo and working back to find a similar datasheet 22.08.48 # sadly there are no audio tests in diagmode 22.08.58 # many wolfson codecs have basically the same register layout 22.09.05 # so figuring out the i2c address and a rough sketch of the register map that way won't work :/ 22.11.10 Join The_Pwny [0] (~IceChat7@203-219-63-40.tpgi.com.au) 22.12.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.12.36 # New commit by 03saratoga (r28832): Make it more clear that key lock is our software hold switch function. 22.14.50 # r28832 build result: All green 22.16.10 Join Chesteta [0] (~4394a340@giant.haxx.se) 22.17.38 Quit Llorean (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 22.20.39 # I wish I could understand half of what rockboxdev.sh does... "Checking if the compiler understands ADA" WTF? :D 22.20.49 Quit Buschel (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 22.20.56 # That's not really rockboxdev.sh 22.21.01 # That's the gcc build system 22.21.43 # so it's actually building gcc? 22.21.54 # well yes 22.22.47 # I see (but I still wonder under which conditions ADA is required to build gcc) 22.22.57 # basically it just downloads the gcc source, applies a patch to it, and then runs the gcc configure script 22.23.00 # gcc has an ada frontend 22.23.08 # I suppose that's off topic however :) 22.23.10 # to compile this requires an ada compiler 22.23.10 # aha 22.23.28 # we're not building it so it doesn't matter whether yo hve one or not 22.23.31 # but configure checks anyway 22.23.45 # makes sense, thanks 22.23.45 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@rockbox/user/Llorean) 22.23.53 # anyone mind if i commit this? works fine for me FS#11799 - Less disk activity patch for text viewer plugin 22.24.12 # hello, i just downloaded the vmware image and vmware and am trying to check out rockbox from svn 22.24.56 # I am having difficulty connecting to the internet through vmware 22.25.12 # Chesteta: the VMWare image is quite outdated, it's actually faster if you prepare a plain Ubuntu install 22.25.29 # oh well, internet worked for me (not the rest though) 22.25.39 # ic 22.25.47 # i just uploaded the vmware image, internet works fine 22.25.55 # so if its not working for you its a problem with your machine or vmware install and not the image 22.26.01 # ok thanks 22.26.06 # saratoga: there's a new vmware image? 22.26.14 # its the same image i just updated the compilers 22.26.21 # this weekend 22.26.39 # is there an easy way to check if i have connectivity from vmware? 22.26.45 # ping google.com 22.26.49 # k 22.27.27 # not working 22.27.29 # :) 22.33.47 # New commit by 03saratoga (r28833): Commit FS#11799 by Alexander Meshcheryakov. Improves the text viewer plugin to write to the disk less often, and correct several minor bugs. 22.36.08 # r28833 build result: All green 22.36.36 # Today I experienced my first data abort in a long time: FuzeV2, Data Abort at 3006127C, FSR0x8, Address FFFF0004 - playback was switching from a track to another, no skipping involved and the track played fine after rebooting 22.37.04 # if you have the map file for that build you can look up whats at that address 22.38.53 # I don't have it, the linux vm I used was borked and I just nuked it. I had the cpu frequency switching patch compiled in... but I can live with a crash each month :) 22.38.58 Join stephen__ [0] (~stephen@86.42.179.232) 22.45.42 Join JdGord [0] (~jonno@pa58-109-150-133.pa.nsw.optusnet.com.au) 22.49.49 # i want to retest frequency scaling once bertrik reworks the sd card driver 22.50.03 # as i recall it was suspected to be the problem with frequency scaling 22.50.24 # my sansa c240 just hung up 22.50.30 # only hard reset helped 22.50.47 # yes thats expected, no need to report it 22.50.56 # saratoga: could i upgrade to the newer vmware to fix it? it keeps telling me there is a new version 22.51.13 # try it and see 22.51.22 # is it free? 22.51.41 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 22.52.30 # saratoga: it could be, the casual hangs I had were mostly when changing tracks. actually I'm puzzled because I seem to be the only one that has some improvement in run time. While accelerated battery benches show just a few minutes runtime more, in daily use the savings are much more noticeable 22.52.58 # i got an extra hour of battery life when i tested 22.53.49 # I'm not crazy then :) 22.53.58 # anybody knows how to use the AA fonts patch? 22.55.30 # after applying the patch, it complains that it can't find freetype-config 22.59.56 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 23.00.28 # ok, I needed to apt-get install libfreetype6-dev 23.00.28 # ok, I needed to apt-get install libfreetype6-dev 23.00.36 # (sorry, CGI lagging) 23.06.25 Quit jgarvey (Quit: Leaving) 23.07.10 Quit bzed (Quit: leaving) 23.07.42 Join freddyb [0] (~chatzilla@216.8.239.112.etczone.com) 23.07.55 Quit Llorean (Quit: Leaving.) 23.07.57 Join bzed [0] (~bzed@devel.recluse.de) 23.08.34 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 23.08.47 # New commit by 03fredwbauer (r28834): FS#11765: Improve AMSv1 Battery Life by Lowering CPU and Peripheral clocks. Unboosted CPU and peripheral clock is now 31MHz. Boosted CPU and pclk are ... 23.10.42 # r28834 build result: All green 23.11.20 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: free(me)) 23.13.03 Join Farthen_ [0] (~Farthen@static.225.178.40.188.clients.your-server.de) 23.13.22 Quit Farthen_ (Remote host closed the connection) 23.13.57 Quit dantje (Quit: Ex-Chat) 23.16.20 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 23.16.37 Part marines 23.20.12 Quit stripwax (Quit: http://miranda-im.org) 23.21.25 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 23.25.34 Quit GeekShadow (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 23.26.12 Quit kevku (Read error: Operation timed out) 23.26.24 Quit evilnick_B (Quit: Page closed) 23.27.51 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@vl10.gw.ok-labs.com) 23.27.51 Quit JdGordon| (Changing host) 23.27.51 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 23.28.56 Quit JdGord (Quit: Bye) 23.31.02 # freddyb: nice 23.31.23 # now feel free to look at the arm9 memory controller and see if we can save some power or improve performance there ;) 23.31.39 Quit stripwax (Quit: http://miranda-im.org) 23.32.50 # saratoga: geez, it never ends... :p 23.33.05 # i hope not, be a crappy hobby if it did 23.33.23 # also i've always suspected some of the various VRMs in the as chip could be lowered to save some power 23.33.23 Quit Chesteta (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 23.35.54 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 23.35.54 # the ubuntu font looks pretty nice on the fuze with AA fonts patch 23.38.28 Quit wodz (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 23.38.32 # I hope AA fonts get another look as the screens get bigger. TTF fonts are everywhere. 23.38.59 # you can already make ttf fonts into rockbox fonts, you know. (indirectly, but it works) 23.39.07 # just, not antialiased. 23.39.24 # looks fine if it's a hinted font or you use a renderer with decent autohinting 23.40.02 Quit GeekShadow (Client Quit) 23.40.18 # Torne: maybe I didn't understand correctly what it's going on, but it seems to me that convttf converts ttf to fnt using AA if the relative patch is applied 23.40.35 # How does Torne do it? Fontforge? 23.40.54 # freddyb: various command line utils from freetype 23.41.10 # the ft renderer autohints okay if you give it a clue with some tuning params 23.41.26 # Luca_S: Torne is saying that you don't have to have the AA patch to use ttf fonts un antialiased. 23.42.15 # * Torne 's experience is that if you tweak hinting params most TTF fonts look fine without antialiasing anyway 23.42.29 Join Farthen_ [0] (~Farthen@static.225.178.40.188.clients.your-server.de) 23.42.31 # it's a little more effort to do, but how often do you make a theme. :) 23.43.22 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 23.43.26 Quit Farthen_ (Remote host closed the connection) 23.43.42 # freddyb: why didn't you go for 32/64/192MHz? 23.44.17 # well, for now I'll settle on ubuntu font regular at 16 px :) it needs just a tweak to the wps to offset a few pixels the first text line 23.47.31 # Luca_S: does it look nice? have a screenshot maybe? 23.47.34 # kugel: i'm pretty happy with 31/31 and 186/62. Battery life is good and I couldn't find any codec or plugin that became unusable. There's not much penalty for going straight from 31 to 186, so switching more vs. running at 61 is not a problem. 23.48.19 # I think the extra mhz can help a bit with slow memory at 31mhz 23.48.27 # kugel: as soon as the OF ends refreshing the DB... :/ 23.49.45 # you can (almost safely) force poweroff after unmounting but before unplugging the cable 23.49.45 # kugel: do you mean 32/32, 64/64, 64/192? 23.50.00 Part domonoky1 23.50.25 # I mean 32/32 and 64/192 23.51.31 # I thought we only didn't do 64 because we had exceeded the specs when boosted (over 250MHz) 23.52.44 Quit n1s (Quit: Lämnar) 23.53.29 # I dunno, I was thinking about lowering it a little more for my own build. I don't have performance issues and I'm using cpu munching extras like big aa-fonts and drop shadows. 23.54.56 # it can be worth it if it prevents boosting for codecs 23.55.12 # in theory the memory clock can go up to 90MHz 23.55.19 # might be neat to see if theres a way to get that working 23.55.25 Quit The_Pwny (Quit: Now if you will excuse me, I have a giant ball of oil to throw out my window) 23.55.26 # funman looked at it briefly but gave up IIRC 23.55.54 Join amee3k [0] (~thomas@dslb-188-110-061-168.pools.arcor-ip.net) 23.56.07 # where is the screendump function gone? I can't find it anymore :/ 23.56.11 # although since the IRAM is still locked at 64MHz I guess theres not much point 23.56.17 # unless we put codecs back into DRAM 23.56.36 # ah, it's in the debug menu 23.57.39 Quit komputes (Remote host closed the connection) 23.58.32 # Torne, i'm back, and i just hacked up a USB cable so i can measure the current 23.58.40 # what do i do now? 23.59.01 # amee3k: saw my comment about profiling? LDOPTS needs -pg also