--- Log for 17.12.110 Server: anthony.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 12 days and 23 hours ago 00.05.15 Quit yosafbridge (Quit: Coyote finally caught me) 00.05.21 Quit komputes (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.07.28 Join yosafbridge [0] (~yosafbrid@li125-242.members.linode.com) 00.09.04 Quit elcan (Quit: leaving) 00.09.42 Join kadoban [0] (~kadoban@ip98-165-177-158.ph.ph.cox.net) 00.13.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.15.02 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Disconnected by services) 00.15.04 Join [Saint] [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.2.87) 00.16.25 Join elcan [0] (user36@pr0.us) 00.16.27 Quit elcan (Client Quit) 00.16.36 # um how do i rate the songs? 00.16.55 Join elcan [0] (user36@pr0.us) 00.18.18 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 00.18.37 Quit JdGord (Quit: Bye) 00.18.56 # o never mind found it 00.20.10 Quit elcan (Client Quit) 00.20.54 Join elcan [0] (user36@pr0.us) 00.25.01 Quit elcan (Client Quit) 00.25.31 Join Topy [0] (~Topy44@f049225072.adsl.alicedsl.de) 00.25.44 Join elcan [0] (user36@64.32.20.56) 00.28.18 Quit T44 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.30.00 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 00.34.00 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 00.38.09 Join The_Pwny [0] (~IceChat7@203-219-63-40.tpgi.com.au) 00.38.24 Quit freddyb (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.8/20100723085406]) 00.46.11 Quit kadoban (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 00.57.41 Quit Judas_PhD (Remote host closed the connection) 00.57.45 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@host104-177-dynamic.27-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 01.01.04 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng425.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 01.16.16 Join Keripo1 [0] (~Keripo@dhcp0101.kin.resnet.group.upenn.edu) 01.18.49 Quit Keripo (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 01.20.44 Quit bertrik (Read error: Operation timed out) 01.40.29 Quit designate72 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 01.48.38 Quit jordan` (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.56.35 Quit mc2739 (Quit: leaving) 01.57.52 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.53=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 01.58.10 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.01.00 Quit froggyman (Quit: Ex-Chat) 02.03.13 Quit Kitar|st (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 02.07.47 Quit krabador (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 02.08.07 Join Kitar|st [0] (~Kitarist@BSN-182-94-106.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 02.09.52 Join ampdj89 [0] (~mercurial@24.121.121.206) 02.11.03 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@host128-55-dynamic.244-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 02.13.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.15.14 Join factor [0] (~factor@r74-195-220-23.msk1cmtc02.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 02.22.11 Quit ampdj89 (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203075014]) 02.34.08 Join jordan` [0] (~jordan@jem75-13-78-235-252-137.fbx.proxad.net) 02.52.24 Join froggyman [0] (~seth@unaffiliated/froggyman) 02.57.26 Join telliott [0] (~Tim@d27-96-170-180.evv.wideopenwest.com) 02.59.39 Quit froggyman (Quit: Ex-Chat) 03.01.13 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 03.12.27 Join designate72 [0] (~aaron@adsl-065-013-002-216.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 03.19.50 Quit n1s (Quit: Lämnar) 03.26.12 Join hebz0rl_ [0] (~hebz0rl@dslb-088-065-063-021.pools.arcor-ip.net) 03.29.38 Quit hebz0rl (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 03.31.33 Join froggyman [0] (~seth@unaffiliated/froggyman) 03.32.32 Join fdinel [0] (~Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 03.41.59 Quit t0rc (Quit: Give someone code, help them with one project. Teach someone to code, help them rule the world.) 03.48.07 Quit sasquatch (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2) 03.48.33 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@p4FF2D95B.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.56.49 # <[Saint]> I'm confused about the setting "Max entries in File Browser" 03.57.29 Quit designate72 (Quit: Leaving) 03.57.59 # <[Saint]> Is that the maximum number of files total? Or the largest number of files in any one given directory? 04.00.15 Quit edboyer93 () 04.00.22 # <[Saint]> example: My "My Music" dir has ~10K tracks in it in a "Music\Artist\Album\Track" directory structure...but the largest number of files in any one given directory is ~100 04.00.58 # its an approximate max number of files in any one directory 04.01.00 # <[Saint]> so...what value should I use for this setting? 04.01.47 # <[Saint]> aha...so, it's any one given dir, not the number from the combined total of the whole dir structure? 04.01.55 # yes 04.02.05 # <[Saint]> excellent, thankyou. 04.12.33 Join soap_ [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 04.13.18 Join DerPapst1 [0] (~Alexander@p5DE5A2ED.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.13.23 # Not to go digging up graves, but how comfortable is everyone with the (old) closing of FS#7510? 04.13.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.13.36 Quit soap (Disconnected by services) 04.13.50 Nick soap_ is now known as soap (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 04.14.04 Join soap_ [0] (~soap@cpe-76-181-78-156.columbus.res.rr.com) 04.14.04 Quit soap_ (Changing host) 04.14.04 Join soap_ [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 04.14.29 # 7510? 04.14.35 # it was closed 3 years ago? 04.14.38 Quit DerPapst (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 04.15.01 # I just started using my Nano 1G again, and the glitching is still there. And again, for me, it seems strongly corelated with heat. Running outside in the frigid cold last night I went at least half an hour before glitching and eventual Rockbox hang. Today running indoors it froze up much earlier. 04.15.30 Join timccc1 [0] (~timccc@112.166.15.141) 04.15.39 Quit krabador (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 04.16.35 # There is always audible glitching before the freeze. Glitches sound lilke a fraction of a second one the current song then a fraction of a second of a second song, then the first, then the second, over and over. 04.16.46 Quit DerPapst1 (Client Quit) 04.16.46 Quit timccc (Read error: No route to host) 04.17.37 # Track skip will often work immediately after the glitching starts, but in not much longer than the time it takes to skip a track the player will become non-responsive to all input except the Menu+Select reset. 04.17.57 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@p5DE5A2ED.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.18.24 Quit froggyman (Quit: Ex-Chat) 04.20.45 Quit InsDel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.21.09 # soap: well if you can easily reproduce then it should be simple enough to rework to lower the boost clock speed 04.21.32 # but seen as it seems like it isnt hitting everyone maybe set as a setting to reduce that 04.22.26 Quit DerPapst (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 04.22.57 # I can test a lower clock-speed build, but not build one myself for a week. There seems to be some dismissial of clock speed as the culprit in the FS task. 04.23.20 # (as well as heat) 04.27.34 Quit amiconn (Read error: Operation timed out) 04.27.34 Quit pixelma (Read error: Operation timed out) 04.27.39 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.27.57 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.28.36 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.28.39 Join pixelma [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.28.44 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@host47-60-dynamic.181-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 04.34.37 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.35.17 Quit factor (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 04.38.35 Quit Barahir (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.40.30 Join Barahir [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590f55c4.pool.mediaWays.net) 05.00.32 Quit [Saint] (Disconnected by services) 05.00.34 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.1.168) 05.03.47 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 05.06.25 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 05.08.14 # Sansa Clip+ isn't listed when trying to select a player in the tracker. Should I choose "another" instead? 05.13.43 # I'm trying to report a problem with the Clip+ radio, but I can't select Sansa Clip+ as the affected player. 05.24.45 Join morphbot [0] (~morphbot@p57B579B1.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.24.47 Part morphbot 05.25.10 Quit fdinel (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 05.31.55 Quit linuxguy3 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 05.32.56 Join linuxguy3 [0] (~timj@adsl-75-57-165-250.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 05.36.39 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 05.43.13 Quit krabador (Quit: Sto andando via) 05.46.33 Quit mc2739 (Quit: leaving) 05.55.07 Join factor [0] (~factor@r74-195-220-23.msk1cmtc02.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 05.59.50 Quit JdGordon| (Quit: leaving) 06.00.35 Quit telliott (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 06.01.30 Join kadoban [0] (~kadoban@ip98-165-177-158.ph.ph.cox.net) 06.03.51 Join medokon [0] (~Miranda@ip72-220-96-167.sd.sd.cox.net) 06.05.22 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 06.09.01 Join heere [0] (62e1b20c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.225.178.12) 06.10.14 # Hi #rockbox, I just started using Rockbox on my Sansa Clip+, and I was wondering if there is a way to shuffle only music, ignoring the audiobook and podcasts folder, like on the OFW. 06.11.01 # hi. i was trying r28834 with fuze v1 and kept getting "error copying file.." when copying 162MB of oggs, 4 files, within windows explorer to the fuze; error didn't pop up at the same point every time. went to r28820 and there was no problem. 06.12.04 # In Rockbox, you are not limited to the directory structure of the OFW. You can shuffle whatever you like or ignore whatever you like. 06.12.31 Join JdGord [0] (~jonno@122.110.159.254) 06.13.16 # Just go to each directory you want to shuffle and select playlist/insert shuffled from the context menu you get when you hold down the select key. 06.13.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.14.17 # Note that the first time you shuffle a directory, you will need to press select to get back to the file browser. 06.14.55 # forgot to say fuze crashed with that error. 06.17.25 # Sorry. my messages were to answer heere's question. 06.18.57 # heere: Also, once you get everything you want in your playlist, you can save it and even reshuffle the whole playlist if you want. 06.21.18 # kinda on the same topic, it annoys the fudge out of me that " --> Playlists --> Insert/Insert Shuffled" jumps straight to the WPS and I have to navigate back to where I was to keep adding additional files to my playlist if that is my attention. 06.21.38 # IMO it should start playback, but remain in the list. 06.24.04 Quit medokon (Quit: medokon) 06.24.45 # S_a_i_n_t: It seems to only do this the first time you do it from the context menu, though hotkey takes you to the wps every time. I was discussing this with someone last night, and you're right, it is much more desirable to stay in the list and then press the wps button when ready. 06.25.33 Quit JdGord (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.30.03 # the_Kyle thanks for that, rockbox is even better than the original system! 06.30.16 # duh ;p 06.30.57 # Does it clear the current playlist on "Insert" 06.30.59 # * the_Kyle agrees, and would never have bought his player if not for Rockbox. 06.31.12 # what's the difference between that and "Queue" 06.31.39 # http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-sansaclipplus/rockbox-build.html 06.31.49 # the manual will tell you that. 06.31.53 # I linked it above. 06.32.47 # heere: The playlist is cleared if something is inserted and nothing is playing. If something is playing and you insert either a file or a directory, the new content will be added to the existing playlist. 06.34.10 # Ok, if I've shuffled one folder, and want to clear it and shuffle another folder, what is the quickest way to get rid of the current Dynamic playlist. 06.34.41 # thanks S_a_i_n_t just learned a lot from the manual 06.34.51 # heere: Just stop playback before loading anything else. 06.36.56 # that's a unique way to control new playlists... 06.37.45 # just installed rockbox for my mom, don't know if she can remember these nuances 06.38.12 Quit kadoban (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.38.38 Join kadoban [0] (~kadoban@ip98-165-177-158.ph.ph.cox.net) 06.38.44 # heere: If she can use the original firmware, she should have no trouble with Rockbox. In many ways, it's more intuitive and easy to use. 06.39.12 Quit kadoban (Remote host closed the connection) 06.39.17 # the menus are quite a bit deeper in some places though. 06.39.30 # it can be easy to get lost, at first. 06.39.56 # yeah I just had to press the power button like six times to stop playback? 06.40.11 Join kadoban [0] (~kadoban@ip98-165-177-158.ph.ph.cox.net) 06.40.37 # holding play should stop playback 06.40.44 # I haven't had that problem here. The power button usually stops after the first 1 to 2 presses. 06.41.25 # S_a_i_n_t: Power will stop playback from anywhere. Holding play on my Clip+ goes to the pitch screen. 06.41.40 # yeah it was a result of the menu i was looking at 06.42.08 # I'm loving rockbox though, will never go back. 06.42.19 # * the_Kyle agrees. 06.42.53 # I havent drained my battery on rockbox yet, but it already seems like my battery will last more than FOUR TIMES longer on rockbox 06.42.54 # * the_Kyle will always check the Rockbox site before buying a new player in the future. 06.43.36 # FLAC on the OFW used to last about 3.5 hours. I've been listening for 5 on rockbox, and not even at half drained yet. 06.44.17 # * the_Kyle didn't know that FLAC was so easy on the battery in Rockbox. 06.44.59 # all my music is FLAC the_Kyle becuase of it 06.45.02 # :D 06.46.54 Nick tchan1 is now known as tchan (~tchan@c-69-243-144-187.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 06.47.00 Quit tchan (Changing host) 06.47.00 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 06.47.12 # Very nice. I was hesitant to put my FLACs on my Clip+ because of the potential battery issues. 06.47.47 Quit The_Pwny (Quit: If you think nobody cares, try missing a few payments) 06.48.58 # However, since my Clip+ is only 8 GB, I will probably stick with Ogg Vorbis and keep FLAC on the hard drive on my computer. 06.49.44 # The MicroSD option does help that quite a bit as well, though. 06.51.06 Quit hebz0rl_ (Quit: Leaving) 06.52.16 Quit mulenmar (Remote host closed the connection) 06.55.05 # yea thats exactly why 80GB is my min for a player 06.57.35 # being on a small budget makes 80GB a luxury that I can only hope to be able to enjoy in the future, so Ogg Vorbis is my friend for now. 06.59.11 # And I could be wrong, but hard drives are still slightly less than reliable after a drop from my experience. 07.02.55 # I don't need any more than 8GB of FLAC on my Clip at once. 07.03.05 # Have 1.5TB on my main machine. 07.05.25 # Use the 8GB to focus your listening. I'm beginning to see Clip+ and Rockbox as music Nirvana, with it's incredible FLAC performance. 07.07.53 # Yes, and pickup some cheap 2 to 4 GB microSD when you have other things you may want to carry along as well. I think Rockbox will even allow you to move files between the player and the memory card on-the-fly. 07.12.42 # Yes, I can confirm that Rockbox will copy or move files between the Clip+ and the memory card. Yet another great and unexpected feature. 07.12.58 # sweet 07.13.38 # It is a little slow with a large file or directory, but it definitely works. 07.14.18 # is rockbox mostly written in C? because I love to help development if there's anything to be done. 07.14.30 # C and asm I think. 07.14.42 # Most core functionality seems to be c. 07.15.17 # * the_Kyle thinks some plugins may be written in lua. 07.15.18 # what's the instruction set for the clip+? does it use an arm? 07.15.38 # * the_Kyle looks. It is arm, but it's more specific than that. 07.16.01 # it's probably a superset of mips? 07.16.25 # i mean risx 07.16.35 # *risc 07.20.33 # CPU is arm. There is also a manufacturer defined as as3525. 07.24.50 Quit CIA-45 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 07.27.37 # the_Kyle: There's only one plugin written in LUA, and that's the game boomshine. 07.28.49 # S_a_i_n_t: Ah. That must be it. I read that LUA was used for some plugins, but I wasn't sure which ones. 07.30.16 # One, and it's boomshine. There's nothing to stop one from making/running other LUA scripts though. 07.31.04 # Can LUA handle sound at all? If so, I'll have to learn it. 07.31.06 # However, it needs to be adapted for Rockbox's LUA. Just dropping code from another project written in LUA is quite unlikely to work. 07.32.06 # * the_Kyle wants some self-voicing games on Rockbox, and who better try to do it than the one who wants it. 07.32.20 # who better to try even 07.32.58 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 07.33.16 Quit mc2739 (Client Quit) 07.33.30 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 07.33.59 # Well, actually, not just games, but other applications as well. If LUA can handle it, there's great potential. 07.34.59 # * the_Kyle knows it probably doesn't interface with the voice system, but the ability to play regular speex or Vorbis even should be better for scripts anyway. 07.35.21 # celt?? 07.35.40 # Not sure if Rockbox supports that codec at all at this point though. 07.37.02 # Is there currently any documentation on the Rockbox version of LUA? 07.37.14 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/PluginLua 07.39.31 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 07.42.03 # It's hard to tell from the wiki page if the LUA plugin supports sound playback. 07.42.43 # check out the LUA lib that RB uses 07.43.01 # iirc it's in apps\plugins\lua\rocklib.c 07.44.23 Join CIA-7 [0] (~CIA@208.69.182.149) 07.44.32 # It does say I can consult a C header file for more info. I'll check both the header file and aldo apps/plugins/lua/rocklib.c. 07.44.34 # I *think* that LUA can access everything else that the other plugins can too, though. So perhaps checkout apps\plugin.h 07.44.51 # Oh nice. 07.46.00 # * the_Kyle looks at these files. /me will learn programming yet. 07.48.16 # The LUA wiki page mentions plug.h. Is this apps/plugin.h, or is there another similar header somewhere else? 07.48.29 # plugin.h even 07.49.37 # yes, apps\plugin.h 07.50.43 Join Horschti [0] (~Horschti@xbmc/user/horscht) 07.50.44 # Good to know I was indeed right about where to look though ;) I was beginning to think I might have sent you off to look at some totally irrelevant files. 07.50.59 # Good. And the journey begins. LUA looks really good, since it can be run directly from the file browser. 07.51.38 # that's the idea with a viewer. 07.52.58 # * the_Kyle is really happy with the potential here. Blind portable gaming at last! 07.53.46 # And if the LUA plugin has access to the full plugin API, then I already know it's possible. 07.54.04 Quit Horscht (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 07.54.34 # The blind already *have* portable gaming in Rockbox! 07.54.44 # * S_a_i_n_t points to rockblox2d.rock ;p 07.56.01 # * the_Kyle looks at it. 07.56.30 # It's a bit of a joke really...don't tell gevaerts I said so though ;) 08.00.23 # * the_Kyle has a rockblocks and a rockblocks1d, but neither ons is doing anything I can hear. 08.01.01 # oh...sorry, I typo'd. yes, rockblox1d 08.01.30 # and, the reason why it is "blind friendly" is because there's no input needed ;) 08.01.57 # oh...actually, you can make the blocks fall slightly faster, but that's all. 08.02.57 # Laughing. Well, that's not what I meant, but it's a start. 08.03.44 # Goddamned spam!!! http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,26757.msg175757.html#msg175757 08.04.06 # By blind portable gaming, I was referring to audio games. 08.04.25 # Games that require good headphones. :) 08.04.58 # Grrrr...more spam: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,26756.msg175756.html#msg175756 08.06.16 Quit xavieran (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08.10.14 Quit shai (Quit: Leaving) 08.10.54 Join eWill [0] (~chatzilla@adsl-76-235-53-177.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) 08.11.44 # This patch is 12 lines long, and I think it makes perfect sense to commit it (needs resynced). It's only 12 lines long: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11344 08.11.59 # *oops typo. Just woke up. 08.12.19 # the_Kyle: there once was an effort to add a voice system to plugins for a Google Summer of Code some time ago. I believe the developer had something semi-working but it was never committed and if I remember correctly, the question about how to handle voice files wasn't solved yet. Unfortunately I think it wasn't even posted to the tracker 08.13.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.14.50 # any forum admins/mods: hodngds841 - I removed the spam posts already though 08.15.39 # thanks pixelma, spam seems to be getting really bad lately :/ 08.16.07 # pixelma: I don't think that will be a showstopper. If the LUA plugin can handle playing sound files, mp3, ogg, etc., the development of audio games and self-voicing applications will be possible, and they can even be distributed outside of the Rockbox source. 08.16.11 # there were 4, but I can only find 1 in "Removed Posts" though, I hope the others were caught by the forum plugin 08.18.13 # the_Kyle: localisation would be probably hard though. A real audio game would be nice though and if you ignore the former probably easier. I'm just a bit hesitent with LUA as it seemed to be very slow when trying the boomshine plugin 08.20.07 # Say I accidently set my LCD to "OFF" can I connect the player, and just delete "\.rockbox\config.cfg" 08.20.52 # * the_Kyle will look into it, and will try to at least create a proof of concept to see if it's even possible. It won't be much of anything, but if it works, much good could result. 08.20.59 Join xavieran [0] (~xavieran@ppp118-209-1-73.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net) 08.22.30 # What are the slowest processor speeds that Rockbox runs on? 08.24.10 # 12mhz 08.25.39 # Ouch! I'm not sure it's possible to get an audio game to run in realtime on a 12mhz CPU. Too much goes on for that to work I think. 08.26.26 # the 12mhz target uses an off-cpu audio decoder chip, no? 08.26.36 # yes 08.26.52 # that wasnt the question thoguh 08.27.11 # That could make all the difference. If all the audio is decoded off CPU, it may still work. 08.30.26 Join shai [0] (~Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 08.30.45 # * the_Kyle will still look into how well this could work. There is a web site that sells Rockboxed audio players to blind and visually impaired people, and I think all the players they sell are fast enough to hopefully play audio games in realtime. 08.31.26 # I Rockboxed mine myself, but my Clip+ is one of the players they have now. 08.33.19 # I'm really not trying to get target specific with this concept, though, so it would be nice, if I can put together a proof of concept for an audio game to be able to have it tested on the 12mhz target. 08.35.22 # Actually, for now, I think my proof of concept will be something more like an application, something like a talking calculator or something. I will be learning LUA scripting, so will probably start small at first. 08.38.50 Quit ReimuHakurei_ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 08.39.04 # A calculator or similar won't need a fast CPU, but it should make any speed issues noticeable if they will present a problem in something like a game or a more resource intensive application. 08.41.59 # the_Kyle: Do you remember an old game called Simon? 08.42.09 # A port of that would be PERFECT! 08.42.47 # Absolutely. I love Simon! 08.42.59 # http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_(game) 08.43.08 # Oh, cool...you remember it. 08.43.08 # And I've even got the four button thing going on. 08.43.15 Join ReimuHakurei [0] (~reimu@74.112.212.15) 08.44.35 # That shouldn't be too hard to write either. It's a very simple program. 08.44.36 # I just thought of it then, iPods and some sansas even have the wheel thing with four directions to represent the four colours / segments of Simon. 08.45.23 # I'm sure even sighted people would enjoy that. 08.45.29 # It will work very nicely on any target with the four buttons or anything similar. 08.45.29 # I loved that game as a child. 08.45.51 # I still have one here. I play it from time to time. 08.46.04 # Awesome. 08.46.19 # Not all targets will light buttons, however. 08.48.25 Join B4gder [0] (~danielx@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 08.48.55 # No...but that not *too* important. 08.49.12 # you just need four tones associated with four buttons. 08.49.59 # I'll map the buttons according to the real game, and home or select can start the game. 08.50.36 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08.50.38 # difficulty levels can be added in later if I can get the game to even run. :) 08.51.18 # It wouldn't be difficult to knowck up a "Simon GUI" also, for the sighted. 08.51.31 # *knock, rather 08.52.10 # I can just light the top, bottom, left or right of the screen with the appropriate color. 08.52.28 # On monochrome targets, just the light will do. 08.54.14 # Wow, we have an implementation of Mastermind...I'm honestly quick shocked that no-one has made a port of Simon yet...I'm sure it will be quite a hit once you get things started the_Kyle. 08.54.26 Quit kadoban (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 08.54.34 # I think we have a winner. 08.54.41 # Then, we need battleships! ;) 08.55.06 # Yes indeed. 08.55.39 # Hmmm..odd typo: s/quick/quite/ 08.56.54 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 09.00.15 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 09.01.28 # The metronome plugin is a real-world example of how possible Simon will be once I learn how the system works. 09.04.08 # It starts getting irregular above 200 beats per minute. I may need to keep this in mind. But Simon doesn't need to be that fast. 09.05.44 # Plugins can record? Even better I think. 09.09.17 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 09.10.33 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@dhcp-129-228.residence.ens-lyon.fr) 09.10.33 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 09.10.33 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 09.11.32 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 09.19.26 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@skatol.ch.pw.edu.pl) 09.20.01 # S_a_i_n_t: ping 09.25.00 Quit mortalscan (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09.29.09 Quit Xerion (Quit: ) 09.30.36 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09.41.50 Quit mikroflops (Read error: Operation timed out) 09.42.59 Join Xerion [0] (~xerion@54196686.cm-5-2b.dynamic.ziggo.nl) 09.44.06 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-174-240.student.uu.se) 09.44.06 Quit n1s (Changing host) 09.44.06 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 09.48.12 Quit mc2739 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.48.49 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 09.52.09 Join efyx [0] (~efyx@lap34-1-82-225-185-146.fbx.proxad.net) 09.53.16 Join fml [0] (~chatzilla@manz-590ef460.pool.mediaWays.net) 09.53.37 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 09.54.28 # Hello. I'm in favour of committing http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11344 (stay in file browser after adding a track to the playlist via hotkey). Any objections? 09.55.03 # sounds sensible 09.59.23 # Is there feedback that the file has been inserted? 09.59.51 # fml: ^ 10.01.09 # Llorean: It splashes what it's inserting. 10.01.24 # though, if it's just one file, it is likely too fast to see. 10.01.54 # As long as the splash's presence is visible that should be fine. 10.02.08 # I'm just worried about someone pressing it, receiving no feedback, pressing it again, etc. 10.02.08 # well...that is the default behaviour, I have no idea if this patch changes that though. 10.02.17 # Well, that patch is what I'm asking about. 10.02.48 # From what I can see, it shouldn't affect it. 10.04.26 # S_a_i_n_t: Does the hotkey version of insert currently show the splash, or are you talking about the context menu version? 10.05.44 # thay are both the same...just different ways of getting to it. 10.05.50 # and yes, it does splash. 10.06.36 # Should be fine then. 10.06.39 # It does a "Loading: Inserting files X of X" so it should be pretty obvious what's going on. 10.07.11 # Llorean: it's absolutely the same as when called from the playlist's menu. 10.07.13 # the only chance you could have of missing it (IMO) is if you're adding individual files on a flash target. 10.08.07 # fml: Just wanted to ask, I've never used the hotkey functions and if it can take you to a different screen on completion, I didn't know what other things might be different about it. 10.09.03 # (to all): commit then? 10.09.15 # * S_a_i_n_t thinks Hothey is one of the more usefull things slapped onto the side of RB for a while... 10.09.38 # fml: No problems here...consistency is always good. 10.09.46 # Though, perhaps take it to the ML? 10.10.09 # I'd say do it. I'd imagine this could be considered a bug - it mostly defeats the purpose of being able to have an insert button if it constantly requires leaving and re-entering the WPS 10.10.27 # Especially since it doesn't mirror the context menu behaviour. 10.10.44 Join petur [0] (d408b802@rockbox/developer/petur) 10.10.50 # as a "bug' , I found it usefull for inserting my whole music directory. 10.11.06 # But that's the only time where it came in handy as opposed to annoying me. 10.11.23 Join mikroflops [0] (~yogurt@h-34-59.A238.priv.bahnhof.se) 10.11.57 # couldn't you use it then press Play? 10.12.34 # Oh, sure...I was just explaining a case where I did indeed find it useful. 10.12.48 Join medokon [0] (~Miranda@ip72-220-96-167.sd.sd.cox.net) 10.12.56 # But, I think that any patch that adds to the overall consistency is a good thing. 10.13.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.13.43 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 10.13.55 # Consistency is a pretty hot topic - it can mean a lot of different things depending on the angle it's viewed from. In this case though, I'd hope it's pretty non-controversial. 10.16.47 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:7d0:0:f000::135d) 10.19.39 # consistency is overrated :) 10.19.54 Quit xavieran (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 10.21.51 # f.e, consistently putting items into wrong menus doesn't make an interface more usable 10.25.01 Quit n1s (Quit: Lämnar) 10.34.15 Join xavieran [0] (~xavieran@ppp118-209-90-230.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net) 10.34.36 # fml: Yes, commit 10.34.40 # That annoyed me 10.35.02 # Insert song, what, I'm in the WPS, OK, back to filebrowser, insert - dammit, WPS!... 10.35.04 # On Fuze v2 the splash is visible. When adding one song it is too fast to read, but definitely long enough to see that something happened. 10.35.57 # It should just end as being the same as when adding through context menu 10.41.53 # is solitaire on the clip+ winnable??? 10.41.59 # ive been playing for 2 hours... 10.43.00 Quit mystica555_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10.54.22 # New commit by 03alle (r28847): Stay in file browser (do not go to WPS) after adding a track to the playlist via the hotkey (FS#11344 by Ryan Sawhill) 10.56.23 # r28847 build result: 5 errors, 0 warnings (alle committed) 10.57.12 # i didnt know there was a draw one card option 10.57.25 # it took me a good three hours to beat a draw three game 10.57.29 # i just did it 10.57.31 # . _ . 10.58.26 # What are the errors in Sansa Fuze Sim? 10.59.21 # Zagor: could you update checklog.pl on the build server? 10.59.29 # And possibly first review my change 10.59.55 Quit medokon (Quit: medokon) 11.00.50 # gevaerts: sure 11.01.09 # These false reds are annoying :) 11.02.14 Quit fml (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203075014]) 11.05.16 # fml: I was having problems building the fuze v2 sim on Cygwin yesterday. You don't mean that? 11.07.21 # fml: false positives due to gcc 4.3 printing lines that the build system doesn't expect. 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Now , I want to contribute to Rockbox. 12.50.30 # Can any1 hint me , what can i? 12.53.41 # Fuhrer_: find something you want to improve. that's much better than someone else telling you what to do. 12.56.12 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 12.56.25 # Like fixing some bug for any1 of the ports? 12.57.01 Quit InsDel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12.57.15 # sure 12.57.23 # There aren't any plans or anything 12.57.27 # Fuhrer_: yes, or making something better. open source works best when you work on the things *you* want fixed 12.57.33 # People just do what they are interested in 12.58.00 # But of course if you want to go bug fixing, we have a wide selection to chose from :) 12.58.13 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 12.58.25 # structured testing is an area where you could have a great impact, if that interests you 12.58.41 # Ok 12.59.16 # Zagor: You mean automated test via sim, or writing some sort of checklist people can test against? 12.59.32 # AlexP: both! 12.59.36 # :) 13.00.07 # An online questionnaire type thing for release testing would be nice 13.00.18 # (and dev provided test builds) 13.00.20 # indeed 13.00.34 # Well , I think as a newcomer & my interests , I will start with bug fixing 13.00.44 # sounds good to me :) 13.01.03 # thanks foe ur guidance 13.01.21 # @ AlexP 13.01.29 # no worries 13.01.38 # & Zagor 13.01.43 # is he your foe now? 13.02.05 # part: Feel my wrath! 13.03.08 Quit soap (Quit: Leaving) 13.05.21 # well I am on my way 13.05.29 # Thanks Zagor !!! 13.05.36 # Fuhrer_: you're welcome 13.08.25 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 13.08.55 Part LinusN 13.09.01 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 13.11.21 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 13.22.43 # teru: thanks for reading logs and a quick fix (haven't tried yet though) :) 13.23.26 # pixelma: it was my commit. sorry about the bug. 13.24.20 # no problem, bugs happen if there are code changes. 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16.50.55 # It annoys me not being able to use the database, what could cause this problem? 16.51.08 # this caused for me too but on android 16.51.20 # the database code is quite complex, it's hard to tell 16.51.24 # s/caused/happened 16.51.36 Join factor [0] (~factor@r74-195-220-23.msk1cmtc02.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 16.52.12 # well, in my case...I *cannot* build the DB at all and it's really pissing me off. 16.52.36 # S_a_i_n_t: have you tried enabling the database log? 16.52.42 Join toffe82 [0] (~chatzilla@maf.wirelesstcp.net) 16.52.55 # S_a_i_n_t: maybe some unaccessible files on sd? 16.53.02 # it scans all the files fine, but when it gets to the second step it craps out and drops into a data abort screen :/ 16.53.08 # or on the device memory itself? 16.53.40 # balintx: All the files are fine, it's an iPod colour, no SD ;) 16.54.05 # it just happening to me on android 16.54.21 # I think because of some inaccessible files 16.54.41 # does it do the same thing? finds all the files fine...but craps out committing them in the second step? 16.54.46 Quit B4gder (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 16.55.00 # it goes to data abort screen 16.55.06 # i check it a moment.. 16.55.11 # yes, but at what stage. 16.55.17 # ah, ok. 16.56.54 # no it is something else 16.57.21 # when it reaches the number 128000 it prints 16.57.25 # pamaury: like accessing this registers? 0xffff7b78 16.57.27 # *PANIC* 16.57.27 # Stkov tagcache 16.58.11 # pamaury: see this code: http://lyre.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/lyre/propendous-imx233_board/firmware/bootstream-1.0/chumby_boot/src/sd.S?revision=67&view=markup 16.58.24 # Data abort is just on my fuze sometimes when copying from a crap msd 16.59.13 # wait a minute, I encountered several undocumented registers. Most of them in the debug uart but not only. 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It turns out I have a Gigabeat with an unrecognized flash. 18.47.43 # *hash 18.48.38 # Both of my gigabeats weren't recognised 18.48.39 Join sk9591 [0] (~sk9591@pool-71-126-57-106.bstnma.east.verizon.net) 18.49.00 # I have a Sansa Clip+ with unrecognized flash 18.49.13 # gevaerts: My F40 isn't recognized, and when I had an F10, that wasn't recognized, either. 18.49.23 # telliott: FS#7505 is for the Gigabeat F. 18.53.28 # gevaerts: Although I did read that you lived dangerously and updated the plugin to accept the hash of your flash. 18.53.38 Join domonoky1 [0] (~Domonoky@agsb-5d850e8b.pool.mediaWays.net) 18.53.49 # LambdaCalculus37: I did yes. I had a spare gigabeat anyway :) 18.54.52 # I have a problem with Rockbox 3.7.1 installed on a Sansa Fuze v1. Trying to init the db, it says "621 found", which is disturbing since there's no music on the player. And it never finishes, just says 621 found, PREV to return whenever I go to db no matter how long I wait. This problem appeared after I deleted all the music in the ##MUSIC## folder (the music added via the MTP mode of the original firmware) manually. I assume 18.54.54 # this was a stupid thing to do. But I used both "Reset Factory Settings" and "Format" on the original firmware, even wiping out Rockbox, reinstalled it, and the problem STILL persists! How can I fix this? 18.55.24 Quit domonoky (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 18.55.57 # gevaerts: I'm looking at the source for the gigabeat_flash plugin right now. I'm taking it that starting at around line 293 is where I want to look into adding the md5 of my flash backup. 18.56.03 # sk9591: (a) 621 is the total number of files looked at, including anything in .rockbox (none of which is actual audio), and (b) there's a bug with the database code that makes it fail if it finds no audio files at all 18.56.38 # oh wow thank you. so there is no problem, it'll work as soon as I put new music on? 18.56.47 # It should, yes 18.56.48 # man I should have tried that first :) 18.56.58 # thanks for your help 18.58.22 Join slooopy [0] (~sloo@p5493D0D7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 19.00.04 # LambdaCalculus37: Looks like it. It's been a while... 19.01.34 # gevaerts: I'll roll a bootloader tonight and try it out on my F40. But I should get a spare as well. :) 19.04.04 # * LambdaCalculus37 finds a bootloader.bmp file tucked away within the confines of the GBSYSTEM/FWIMG directory on his F40 and thinks it would make for a nice bootloader splash screen 19.04.24 # s/bootloader.smp/bootsplash.bmp 19.10.48 Part sk9591 19.12.44 Quit factor (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 19.15.13 Quit telliott (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 19.16.28 Quit sinthetek (Quit: leaving) 19.16.59 Join sinthetek [0] (~sinthetek@unaffiliated/sinthetek) 19.28.15 Quit ReimuHakurei (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.28.31 Quit LambdaCalculus37 (Quit: back to work) 19.41.40 Quit hebz0rl (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 19.47.09 Quit Kitar|st () 19.55.34 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@host123-229-dynamic.252-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 20.06.02 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4BF15.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.13.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.35.46 Join ReimuHakurei [0] (~reimu@74.112.212.15) 20.37.18 # That's true, yes 20.37.21 # oops 20.49.37 Quit designate72 (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 20.51.24 Quit jfc^3 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.51.49 Join jfc^3 [0] (~john@dpc6682208002.direcpc.com) 20.52.54 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 20.53.17 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lem0n@ppp-165-159.98-62.inwind.it) 20.58.55 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 21.07.59 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 21.12.25 Nick evilnick_B is now known as evilYick_B (0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 21.14.48 Nick evilYick_B is now known as evilnick_B (0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 21.24.39 Quit GeekShadow (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 21.32.47 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 21.35.00 Quit krabador (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 21.35.38 Join Llorean1 [0] (~DarkkOne@99-68-45-56.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 21.36.08 Quit Llorean (Disconnected by services) 21.36.12 Nick Llorean1 is now known as Llorean (~DarkkOne@99-68-45-56.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 21.36.15 Quit Llorean (Changing host) 21.36.15 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@rockbox/user/Llorean) 21.41.29 Join Bice [0] (~ae3c8d15@giant.haxx.se) 21.42.41 # Hi all. I'm pretty sure the answer to this is going to be "no", but does anyone know if RockBox runs on the new "iPod Classic"? 21.42.54 # Yes 21.43.06 # It doesn't 21.43.11 # I know the answer to the question and that answer is "not yet" 21.43.20 # Bummer. 21.43.26 # People are working on it 21.43.31 # Does "not yet" imply that someone's working on it? 21.43.35 # Ah, I guess so. 21.44.22 # The hard drive on my 80gb iPod Video is slowly dying and I was thinking of replacing it with an iPod Classic, but I really don't want to have to use iTunes. 21.45.03 # Just get a larger hard drive then 21.45.13 # Larger as in capacity, obviously :) 21.45.32 # I don't know that I have the technical expertise to pull off replacing an iPod hard drive. How difficult is it? 21.46.33 # There's a guide at http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Repair/Installing-iPod-5th-Generation-Video-Hard-Drive/607/1 21.46.44 # I'd say have a look at it and decide :) 21.46.57 # I was looking at this article: 21.46.58 # http://www.command-tab.com/2006/04/05/really-testing-ipod-hard-drives/ 21.47.03 Quit kugel (Remote host closed the connection) 21.47.14 # Thinking about trying to salvage the current drive. 21.47.37 # But that still requires getting the hard drive out of the thing, so if I can do that I might as well just replace it. 21.48.19 # I found it pretty trivial to change the drive in it. And my skills are on the "average" side of things 21.50.06 # If I were to get a bigger drive, how big does RockBox support? I saw somewhere that 240 gb drives exist, but RockBox might not be able to access all that memory? 21.51.03 # Yep, it can 21.51.37 # IIRC, you don't even need a special build 21.51.55 # Hmmm, a 240 gb drive would be sweet. But it would cost almost twice what I paid to buy the iPod itself on eBay. 21.52.00 Quit komputes (Quit: I haven't slept for ten days, because that would be too long.) 21.52.37 # When you replaced your drive, did you use the special iPod opening tool shown in that tutorial? 21.52.37 Quit Dreamxtreme (Quit: Ex-Chat) 21.53.02 # I did, yes. I changed the battery at the same time and the battery came with that tool 21.53.59 # I read that a guitar pick works - I have a bunch of those, but no iPod opening tool. 21.54.56 # Yeah, that ought to do it 21.55.18 # It depends on how much you dislike scratches and dents. I used a screwdriver, and it shows :) 21.55.39 Join komputes [0] (~komputes@ubuntu/member/komputes) 21.57.01 Quit g40s_ (Quit: Lost terminal) 21.58.13 # I bought the iPod used so it already has some scratches. Not a big deal to me, as long as it works (which it currently doesn't). 22.00.27 # I read that there are two different types of hard drives for iPods that use different types of connectors. Do I have to worry about that, or do all the 5th gen iPod drives use the same type of connector? 22.00.41 Quit komputes (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.00.48 Join simonrvn [0] (simon@209.242-ppp.3menatwork.com) 22.01.07 # You need a 40-pin ZIF drive 22.01.40 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/HardDriveReplacement has some useful information 22.03.57 # I'm thinking the 120 or 240 gb hard drives listed here would work: 22.03.59 # http://www.apricorn.com/product_detail.php?type=family&id=42&gclid=CNLUl7-X9KUCFRZ-5QodcDIAqA 22.04.23 # Does that look right? 22.04.25 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust964.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 22.05.25 # Bice: It's advertised specifically for your exact model of ipod. So yes, it should work :P 22.05.33 # It even comes with a new battery (which I probably don't need since I keep it plugged in 90% of the time) and the tools. 22.05.58 # Yeah, I just wanted to be 100% sure. Like I said, I'm not a hardware kind of guy. Stuff like this scares me. :-) 22.06.07 # It's a bit annoying that they don't list exact hard drive models, but I wouldn't expect problems 22.06.33 # Once it's build, I can probably program it, but messing with the hardware makes me nervous. 22.06.48 # If there are any problems then it'd be a fraudulent sale, but that's drifting off-topic 22.07.11 # That's the reason I've had a broken old arcade Sinistar machine sitting in my basement for 10 years. I'd love to fix it, but I'm afraid to mess with it. 22.08.29 # And I hate to beat a dead horse, but you're pretty sure RockBox can handle a 240 gb drive without doing anything special, right? I think I see myself shelling out a couple hundred bucks in the near future. 22.08.57 Quit stripwax (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.09.22 # Yes 22.09.56 # You used to need a special build, but the regular build supports all known drives since release 3.6 22.10.05 # Excellent. 22.10.18 # Well, all known drives that the Apple firmware handles at least 22.11.02 # The wife's going to kill me for spending $200 this close to Christmas, but oh well. 22.11.12 # :) 22.11.24 # Surely she can't kill you this close to Christmas? :) 22.11.50 Quit robin0800 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.11.52 Quit jhMikeS (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.13.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.14.06 Quit mystica555_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 22.14.11 # Hey, she got a Blu-ray player AND a Tivo, so I think I'm owed. :-) 22.15.53 # Anyone ever heard of eCrater? They're selling an 80gb replacement drive for $66, shipping included: 22.15.53 # http://www.ecrater.com/p/8675093/mk8010gah-hard-drive-for-toshiba-ipod 22.16.25 # That's a lot more reasonable, but the 240 gb drive really has me tempted now. 22.18.18 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@adsl-99-29-196-107.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 22.18.18 Quit jhMikeS (Changing host) 22.18.18 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 22.18.47 # I guess that it depends on how much you'd value having the extra room for music/files 22.21.04 # I've got a little under 1800 CDs, plus a couple hundred more cassettes and vinyl. If I could get all that onto one device that I could carry around, it'd be heaven. 22.22.02 # At the compression bitrate I was using, I figured I could get about half my collection on an 80gb drive. So 240 should hold everything. 22.24.25 # I gotta go take my daughter to a school dance. Thanks a lot for the help and advice, I really appreciate it. 22.24.28 Quit Bice (Quit: CGI:IRC 0.5.9 (2006/06/06)) 22.31.36 Join designate72 [0] (~aaron@adsl-065-013-002-216.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 22.35.48 Quit mordocai (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 22.45.05 Join Fuhrer [0] (dce36163@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.227.97.99) 22.45.08 Join Horschti [0] (~Horschti@xbmc/user/horscht) 22.46.06 # Does Rockbox Utility automatically get and patch the OF for a v2 Fuze install? 22.48.52 Quit Horscht (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 22.49.27 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@host108-20-dynamic.251-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 22.50.45 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: Bye ;)) 22.54.08 Join saratoga [0] (9803c22e@rockbox/developer/saratoga) 22.58.24 Part Llorean 23.00.56 Join factor [0] (~factor@r74-195-220-23.msk1cmtc02.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 23.09.11 Join mystica555_ [0] (~mike@c-75-70-179-25.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 23.14.30 Join {phoenix} [0] (~dirk@p57AA3DD9.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.19.45 Quit evilnick_B (Quit: Page closed) 23.22.41 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: free(me)) 23.33.00 Quit jgarvey (Quit: Leaving) 23.40.43 Join Dreamxtreme [0] (~Dre@92.30.196.196) 23.41.41 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 23.53.52 Join fritschy [0] (~marcus@dslb-188-098-253-044.pools.arcor-ip.net) 23.53.55 Join soap [0] (~soap@oh-71-54-68-246.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) 23.53.55 Quit soap (Changing host) 23.53.55 Join soap [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap)