--- Log for 05.01.111 Server: zelazny.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 5 days and 19 hours ago 00.00.06 Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.00.31 Quit Buschel (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203075014]) 00.00.41 Quit evilnick (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.03.34 Join yelped [0] (~62741813@giant.haxx.se) 00.05.32 # I'm trying to compile for the first time, and I followed the instructions on the VMWare development Wiki, and I can't seem to download the svn; It tells me "connection timed out". 00.07.55 # does other net access work from the vm? 00.08.51 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@f048010075.adsl.alicedsl.de) 00.09.01 # How do I try it? 00.09.14 # ping something would be easiest I guess 00.09.21 # ping www.google.com 00.10.15 # Where do I ping in linux? I've never used it before. I'm using the image provided on the wiki. 00.10.34 # from a terminal, the same place as you are giving the svn command 00.10.46 # Ok, let me try. 00.10.54 # instead of typing "svn co ....." type "ping www.google.com" 00.12.18 Quit Topy (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.13.08 # It's pinging. How many times will it continue to ping? 00.13.24 # until you stop it 00.13.29 # control-c 00.13.35 # Thanks. 00.13.55 # It did it 141 times. 00.14.10 # and worked presumably 00.14.24 # 0% packet loss. 00.15.28 # and "svn co svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk rockbox" fails? 00.15.35 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Disconnected by services) 00.15.37 Join [Saint] [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.2.65) 00.15.41 # as it works here 00.15.54 # maybe you are behind a firewall that is blocking the svn port? 00.16.23 # How to check? :) 00.17.08 Quit GeekShadow (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.17.31 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 00.18.31 # AlexP: afaik auto-update doesn't depend on database in RAM, one of the things is though that it works better (a lot quicker) with dircache. I could be wrong too but I'm quite sure (e.g. the Archoses have auto-update but not load to RAM, and they also don't have dircache except on the 8MB mods) 00.19.00 # pixelma: Cool, I did hope I was misremembering 00.19.15 # pixelma: Maybe you could reply to put me right on the thread :) 00.20.08 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 00.21.10 # yelped: I'd be surprised if it was blocked at home, not surprised at work 00.22.05 # I'm at home. 00.22.30 Quit Mystery_Keeper (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.2 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) 00.25.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.25.32 Join Topy [0] (~Topy44@f048194115.adsl.alicedsl.de) 00.25.36 Quit jfc^2 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.28.18 Quit T44 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.28.30 # yelped: windows firewall might be doing it I suppose 00.30.06 # So how do I check it and change it? I'm using Windows 7. 00.31.52 # No idea I'm afraid, I don't use Windows 00.33.50 Quit Jerom (Quit: Leaving.) 00.33.52 # When writing a plugin, am I actually restricted to the plugin API or can I use any function Rockbox provides? 00.35.01 # Both 00.35.18 # Did anyone write up any information on what was done to find the digitial signature exploit on the Gigabeast? 00.35.24 # You're restricted to the plugin API, but if you really need a function, the API can be extended 00.35.33 # I see 00.36.00 Quit efyx (Remote host closed the connection) 00.36.02 # because I couldn't find a function to add a playlist file to the current playlist 00.36.15 # there's some playlist manipulation 00.36.20 # including adding single files 00.36.32 # but not whole playlists AFAICS 00.37.11 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@g228194230.adsl.alicedsl.de) 00.37.53 # mudd1: actually, I think playlist_create() will do that 00.38.22 # * gevaerts isn't sure though 00.39.06 Quit Topy (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.39.27 Join The_Pwny [0] (~IceChat7@220-244-203-148.tpgi.com.au) 00.39.34 Join Keripo1 [0] (~Keripo@CPE0022b0d4bdb7-CM001a6680d4fe.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 00.40.48 # looked to me as if it would create a new playlist file from the current playlist ... not the other way around 00.40.53 # playlist_create() will start a new playlist 00.40.53 # but of course I might be wrong 00.41.05 # you want ft_insert_from_playlist() or something 00.41.13 # IIRC its in filetree.c not playlist 00.41.40 # in playlist.h I found playlist_insert_playlist() which looked promising 00.41.48 # or that 00.42.05 Quit Keripo (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 00.44.20 # there's a ft_play_playlist() in filetree 00.45.00 # I'm so confused ... is there a Right Way to do this or is it more like whatever works? 00.46.58 Quit Strife89TX (Quit: BRB) 00.47.37 # playlist_insert_playlist() is correct 00.47.41 # assuming it does what you want 00.49.57 # guess so, I cleared the current playlist first, then I want to use this function to fill the current playlist with the content of a stored one from disk 00.50.12 # do I need a third call to start playback? 00.50.23 # maybe 00.52.51 # ok, thank you :) 00.55.03 Quit LambdaCalculus37 (Quit: food time) 00.57.23 # yay, it built! 00.57.31 # my first Rockbox plugin 00.57.39 # time to screw my player 01.00.41 Quit mikroflops (Quit: "foo") 01.01.09 Quit Keripo1 (Quit: Leaving.) 01.07.29 Quit yelped (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 01.08.18 Join Topy [0] (~Topy44@f048196145.adsl.alicedsl.de) 01.10.57 Quit moos (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.11.21 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@f048194203.adsl.alicedsl.de) 01.11.23 Quit Strife89 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.11.41 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-67-61-103.mcn.bellsouth.net) 01.11.49 # gevaerts: I think my MBR was rewritten somehow ?? filters were off and I see 0x00 in the status areas. 01.11.54 Quit T44 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.13.06 Quit Topy (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.13.45 Join mikroflops [0] (~yogurt@h-34-71.A238.priv.bahnhof.se) 01.13.48 Join JesusRivera [0] (~454f415a@giant.haxx.se) 01.14.49 Quit JesusRivera (Client Quit) 01.16.07 Join Manny [0] (~454f415a@giant.haxx.se) 01.16.34 Nick Manny is now known as Guest97604 (~454f415a@giant.haxx.se) 01.17.46 Quit Guest97604 (Client Quit) 01.18.35 # * jhMikeS needs reminding of what the status field should be from the factory 01.21.02 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 01.25.43 Join krazykit [0] (~krazykit@99-126-205-52.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) 01.25.43 Join t0rc [0] (~t0rc@unaffiliated/t0rc/x-5233201) 01.25.43 # nvm...0x01 01.26.58 Join jfc^2 [0] (~john@dpc6682208002.direcpc.com) 01.28.33 Quit t0rc (Remote host closed the connection) 01.29.54 Join webguest44 [0] (~454f415a@giant.haxx.se) 01.31.57 Join yelped [0] (~62741813@giant.haxx.se) 01.32.27 # I Was Told To Ask For Write Permision? 01.33.13 # Ok, it's working. The problem was that I was using the old version of VMWare linked to in the Direct Download link, the latest version works properly. 01.34.14 # Before I compile, how do I change some lines? 01.36.10 Join bug2000 [0] (~bug@unaffiliated/bug2000) 01.36.27 # Can I Get Added To The WikiUsersGroup? 01.36.36 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.36.49 # webguest44, can you tell us your WikiName and not capitalize every single word? 01.37.16 # JesusRivera 01.39.00 # the dd sits there hanging trying write sector 0 and says the sem timeout expired 01.39.07 # it would probably help if i could remember which wiki page i'm supposed to edit 01.41.22 # sorry, webguest44, you'll have to wait for someone more useful than me 01.42.15 # lol... ok 01.44.31 # How do I select Sansa Fuze while building? "make 58" doesn't work. 01.45.58 # Forget about it. I got it. 01.55.09 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: free(me)) 01.57.24 # How do I edit the source once I have the build environment set up? 01.57.37 # 02 Can I Get Added To The WikiUsersGroup? 01.58.04 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-80-182-31.mcn.bellsouth.net) 02.00.43 # <[Saint]> webguest44: We need a little more info than that ;) 02.00.50 # <[Saint]> ie. Real Name 02.01.37 Quit GeekShadow (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 02.01.39 # Jesus Rivera 02.02.33 # <[Saint]> thanks, one secone. 02.02.38 # ok 02.03.43 # How do I edit the source once I have the build environment set up? 02.04.16 # <[Saint]> with a text editor that respects line ending chars 02.04.21 # <[Saint]> like NotePad++ 02.04.26 # <[Saint]> or SciTE 02.04.53 # I mean, "Where do I find them? 02.05.25 # <[Saint]> you need to check out the source code. 02.05.32 # How? 02.05.40 # now the hard part is getting a keypress to work to change modes 02.05.42 # <[Saint]> this is covered in the wiki under development - getting started IIRC 02.05.58 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 02.06.02 # <[Saint]> JesusRivera added to wikiusersgroup 02.06.09 # <[Saint]> webguest44: ^ 02.06.17 # Thanks 02.08.00 # I did that already, I just don't see a file-brwoser to get to the files I downloaded. Also when do I apply the changes before makefile? 02.08.55 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@CPE0022b0d4bdb7-CM001a6680d4fe.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 02.09.09 # <[Saint]> what are you expecting to see? 02.09.22 # <[Saint]> if you know where you downloaded the source to....navigatye there. 02.09.27 # <[Saint]> *navigate 02.10.24 # I'm using the linux build provided under the Vmware Wiki page, and I've never used Linux, I have no idea how to get to the files. 02.11.08 # * [Saint] suggests google 02.11.39 # <[Saint]> this isn't a "geberal *nix questions" channel unfortunately. 02.11.42 # It worked! :D I inserted a MicroSD card and music started to play! 02.11.49 # <[Saint]> However, there's *many* of them on IRC 02.12.00 # <[Saint]> bah... *general 02.12.00 # (sorry if you can't share my enthusiasm ;) 02.13.12 # Ok, I'll try, even though this appears to be a cut down version of linux, so I really don't know who to ask. 02.14.13 # <[Saint]> iirc, it's just a cropped version of Ubuntu...you really just need to brush up on navigating a *nix setup. 02.14.38 # <[Saint]> I personally have no idea where you installed everything, so I can't just say "look here". 02.15.51 # it only seems to work when the debug output is activated though ... 02.19.36 Quit webguest44 (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 02.19.40 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 02.20.14 # I did this:svn co svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk rockbox cd rockbox mkdir Fuze cd Fuze ../tools/configure make 02.20.26 # this is going to get ugly 02.24.03 # svn co svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk rockbox && cd rockbox && mkdir Fuze && cd Fuze && ../tools/configure [follow script instructions] make && make zip 02.24.25 # FTFY, but that assumes you have the toolchains set up. 02.24.56 # What? 02.24.59 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@host234-55-dynamic.244-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 02.25.19 # have you ever browse SMB shares from android? 02.25.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.25.54 # I want to be able to get to the source code and edit it, and I don't see a file-browser to get to it. 02.26.21 # Thanks for your help in advance.. 02.26.31 # * Strife89 doesmn 02.26.46 # 't remember what the VMWare package has. 02.26.50 # Buschel, still no crash, six hours in a cool room. 02.27.20 # Nautilus is the only Linux file manager I know by name. 02.27.35 Quit simon_ (Quit: Lost terminal) 02.28.24 # How do I install it. I've never used linux before. 02.31.17 Quit The_Pwny (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 02.33.11 Quit GeekShadow (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 02.36.03 # Dunno if it has apt on it ... 02.36.24 # So what can I do? 02.37.14 # Ah, wiki page says it does. 02.37.18 # So, open eterm. 02.37.39 # *Eterms 02.37.55 # ok. 02.38.18 # Type su 02.38.35 # It will ask for a password, which is rockbox 02.38.56 Join simonrvn_ [0] (simon@209.179-ppp.3menatwork.com) 02.39.04 # ok. 02.39.10 # Next, sudo apt-get install nautilus 02.39.23 # guys, this is #rockbox 02.39.32 # move to -community if it isnt about actual development 02.39.58 # it says sudo is not a command 02.40.14 # Ah, right. Omit sudo. 02.40.21 # And join #rockbox-community 02.40.28 # ok, 02.40.41 # how 02.40.44 # ? 02.41.17 # /join #rockbox-community in the text box where you type messages. :) 02.41.29 # Without the space before the / 02.41.36 Quit simonrvn (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.41.36 Nick simonrvn_ is now known as simonrvn (simon@209.179-ppp.3menatwork.com) 02.41.55 # join #rockbox-community 02.42.10 # You need the / before join 02.48.46 # it kinda works but I need to sleep now 02.48.59 # thank you guys for all the help again :) 02.49.13 # good night 02.49.28 Part mudd1 ("Ex-Chat") 03.04.16 Join Strife89TX [0] (~cstrife89@adsl-80-182-31.mcn.bellsouth.net) 03.41.55 Join eRivas [0] (~be960063@giant.haxx.se) 03.43.58 # is it possible to have a non filled progress bar, to emulate a radio tuner, just like here: http://www.tech2.com/media/images/2008/Aug/img_80991_radio_recorder.jpg 03.43.59 # ? 03.46.06 # yes 03.46.16 # check the Bar tags part of CheckWPS 03.46.42 Quit krabador (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03.47.06 Join Hillshum [0] (4ba5e734@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.165.231.52) 03.48.04 # CheckWPS, got a link? 03.48.12 # woops 03.48.14 # CustomWPS 03.48.16 # on the wiki 03.50.23 # oh, I see, the slider param, right? thanks, will give it a shot 03.53.11 Join CaptainKwel [0] (~jason@207-38-215-126.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 03.59.03 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@host197-231-dynamic.252-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 04.04.21 # <[Saint]> Hmmm, I think those ATA changes may have broken iPod Color too. 04.04.35 # <[Saint]> It won't mount under RB, says it isn't formatted. 04.06.10 # did you update? 04.06.16 # <[Saint]> disk mode is fine so, whatever it is is apparently RB's problem. 04.06.27 # <[Saint]> No, just updating now...just noticed your commit. 04.08.29 # Crazy "bootloader install mode" beast patch (that also makes it a removable disk): http://jhmikes.cleansoap.org/gigabeats-bootloader-install-mode-usb.diff 04.09.12 # <[Saint]> jhMikeS: Just updated, still won't mount under RB 04.09.31 # <[Saint]> OF/Disk mode are fine though. 04.09.54 # if that commit didn't do the trick, then I'm stumped since it was obvious what was wrong (??) 04.10.06 # <[Saint]> :/ 04.10.20 # <[Saint]> well, fudge. 04.10.48 # sure you got it updated right? I can't see what changes should affect it beyond the one tiny bug. 04.10.57 # <[Saint]> I'll build the rev before the ATA changes and see if that magically fixes it and confirms my suspicions. 04.11.10 # <[Saint]> I can't do it right now though, and yeah...positive. 04.13.40 # <[Saint]> The iPod Colour has been having a few quirks lately (see forums), I think something just tipped it over the edge...yay for biscecting commits. At least there isn't too many. 04.15.34 # Hmmm...effectively it should be "no change at all" to the code by the latest SVN. I don't get it. I haven't tried any PP targets yet. 04.16.37 Join Barahir_ [0] (~jonathan@frnk-4d0089ce.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.19.49 Quit Barahir (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.22.05 Quit krabador (Remote host closed the connection) 04.22.09 # * [Saint] shrugs. 04.22.49 # <[Saint]> format with itunes, install latest SVN head, no mount. 04.23.17 # <[Saint]> happening with two devices though, so...if it's not RB then my machine has gone mental. 04.25.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.27.21 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 04.31.01 # <[Saint]> wow...I can't believe what a serious hit the iPod colour took in performance with FS#11141 04.31.15 # <[Saint]> the buffer *never* fills, and skipping tracks take ~1min. 04.32.26 # <[Saint]> Buschel: ^ 04.37.21 Join izinucs [0] (~dell@ip72-197-233-84.sd.sd.cox.net) 04.45.30 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.45.31 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.45.49 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.45.50 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.45.53 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.45.55 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.46.02 Quit Hillshum (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 04.47.07 Join Hillshum [0] (4ba5f59f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.165.245.159) 04.49.46 # If anyone is up.. I don't see the SanDisk e250 on the list for compatibility.. it is older.. anyone know if rockbox will work on it? 04.50.41 # izinucs: it will 04.50.51 # izinucs: it's under 'sansa' 04.51.34 # izinucs: just use the auto-detect from the installer to determine which version e250 it is and install it 04.52.00 # sinthetek: thanks.. 04.52.35 # sinthetek: not having read any of the docs on RB yet.. am I able to backup the original system for possible reinstall later? 04.53.03 # and can all that be done on a linux system? 04.53.38 # izinucs: err... actually it's listed as an 'e200 series' device but it works (that's what i have) 04.53.50 # the e200 series dual-boots, rockbox can be uninstalled, and yes, also yes, the docs answer all of this :) 04.54.06 # cool.. thanks guys (gals?) 04.54.20 # izinucs: yeah, it keeps the original os on there so you press a button during boot and it loads 04.54.38 # np 04.55.07 # I looked at the flash memory with parted and it shows two partitions.. is the smaller one the imbeded system or is that in a rom? 04.58.05 Quit yelped (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 04.59.08 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 05.04.10 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.05.35 Join t0rc [0] (~t0rc@unaffiliated/t0rc/x-5233201) 05.08.18 Part izinucs 05.13.17 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 05.14.10 # is there a way to emulate connection to AC power on the UIsim? 05.14.29 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 05.19.00 # There's a way to simulate USB connection... 05.19.15 # eRivas: What do you mean by AC power? 05.19.30 # it's just that I want to make sure my "charging" icon works fine 05.21.06 # Does the USB simulation not provide power? 05.21.31 # dont know, how do I do USB sim? 05.23.00 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Reboot.) 05.24.46 # never mind, just found out, but I only see the big USB cable, no power is provided 05.25.03 # well, I guess it's time to actually try the theme on the player 05.27.06 # <[Saint]> just switch it with a different conditional. 05.27.25 # <[Saint]> if it works there, it'll work with another tag as long as you have the correct syntax 05.28.37 # <[Saint]> for SIM testing (though, you really should be using the themeeditor) I used to just use the hold conditional to check on/off;true/false tags like charging etc. 05.29.18 # <[Saint]> testing on the sim is pretty painfull though, one step less painfull than testing on device though. 05.29.40 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-80-182-31.mcn.bellsouth.net) 05.29.53 # this is just may second theme, and the first where I use the SIM, it saves SOOO much time 05.30.17 # <[Saint]> try the themeeditor. 05.30.23 # cant believe how many times I connected/disconnected the device before, hahaha 05.31.39 # eRivas: There should be a button to charge without connecting to USB, try holding that on the sim while "connecting" USB 05.31.56 # I don't know what it is for your particular device 05.32.12 # * [Saint] sin't sure that is emulated. 05.32.22 # <[Saint]> *isn't 05.32.37 # sansa fuze v2 05.32.43 # <[Saint]> But, seriously...USE THE THEMEEDITOR! ;) 05.32.57 # probably select then, but I'm not sure. Try themeeditor 05.32.58 # hahaha, thanks, will give a try 05.33.06 # <[Saint]> it was made for a reason lol! 05.33.24 Quit Horschti (Quit: Verlassend) 05.33.26 # but will be in a couple of months, college is gonna be heavy 05.34.52 Join evilnick__ [0] (~evilnick@ool-18bcf602.dyn.optonline.net) 05.36.28 Quit Kitar|st () 05.37.49 Quit mortalscan (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05.38.37 Quit evilnick_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05.39.08 Nick scorche` is now known as scorche (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 05.43.42 Quit panni_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.46.12 # <[Saint]> Anyone understand the voodoo world of DMA? 05.46.44 # <[Saint]> I'm trying to understand why I take such a huge hit with FS#11141 05.47.21 # <[Saint]> the buffer like *never* fills, it never even gets to about 10% with this patch and skipping tracks is out of the question. 05.48.01 # <[Saint]> perhaps because I've clocked down to 24Mhz unboosted instead of 30? 06.01.09 Quit mystica555 (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 06.06.56 # is there anything the theme editor does to the files when it parses them? 06.07.20 # just opened my cfg, wps, sbs and fms and now they are all broken 06.07.46 # <[Saint]> haha...you've been developing for a release build haven't you? ;) 06.08.40 # <[Saint]> the theme editor doesn't understand "old" theme syntax. 06.09.30 # <[Saint]> wait...you'd have to have an ancient build for that not to work. 06.09.42 # well, my sansa has 3.7.1 06.09.52 # <[Saint]> if you've been developing for 3.7/.7..then it should work fine. 06.10.10 # <[Saint]> *3.7/.1 06.10.45 # yeah, I mean, just installed what the rockbox utility gave me 06.11.13 # but it seems that passing the files through notepad++ is fixing it 06.11.58 # * [Saint] wonders what the fuck is going on there. 06.13.50 Quit Strife89TX (Quit: Need the TX's memory card.) 06.17.12 # yeah, back to normal, I changed some positioning and size of an image, it fixed it 06.17.32 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 06.17.41 # also noticed the theme editor will put foreground color declarations on its own line 06.17.58 # UIsim wont render fonts that way 06.20.20 # <[Saint]> the themeeditor has a nasty habit of doing that, but...that shouldn't break anything. 06.20.52 # <[Saint]> fg/bg declarations have been able to be seperate from the VP declaration for ages now. 06.21.20 # <[Saint]> that should not break loading fonts in any way. 06.21.25 # yeah, I think it was my fault, I mean, I changed some positioning values and it parsed just right, but it wouldn't work on the player/sim 06.21.49 # <[Saint]> something is very fucked up then. 06.22.13 # <[Saint]> the "golden rule" is *supposed* to be, "if it parses in the themeeditor, it will parse on device" 06.22.23 # <[Saint]> that's how I fixed your theme up the other day. 06.23.14 # I'll be uploading it in a few minutes, if you want to take a look 06.23.43 # <[Saint]> I will if you can't figure it out, yeah. 06.24.13 # no, its okay now, but had to edit with notepad++ 06.24.43 # <[Saint]> what OS are you on? 06.25.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.25.27 # <[Saint]> a .wps .sbs .fms .rsbs . doesn't care about line ending chars. 06.25.34 # <[Saint]> you can use whatever editor you want. 06.25.42 # right now windows, but normally mint/ubuntu, just was too lazy to compile the sim and theme editor 06.25.48 # <[Saint]> you could use windows notepad if you *really* wanted to. 06.26.35 # yeah, las time it was gedit, which produces that weird double spaced lines in pastebin 06.26.41 # last* 06.27.10 # <[Saint]> perhaps the themeeditor doesn't liek *nix line ending chars. 06.27.16 # <[Saint]> the device won;t care though. 06.27.20 # <[Saint]> *like 06.27.25 # <[Saint]> *won't 06.27.39 Quit krazykit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 06.28.27 Join krazykit [0] (~krazykit@99-126-205-52.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) 06.30.45 # more likely to not like windows line ending 06.30.53 # I tihnk it only looks for \n 06.30.56 # ignoring \r complelty 06.31.46 # <[Saint]> perhaps...I've never actually checked. I'm too used to SciTE that just respects the line ending chars of whatever you're editing. 06.32.09 # <[Saint]> any "good" editor should, perhaps a setting oversight. 06.54.17 Quit crwl (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.07.45 Join crwl [0] (~crwlll@dsl-jklbrasgw1-fe8edf00-29.dhcp.inet.fi) 07.13.50 Quit scorche|sh (Changing host) 07.13.50 Join scorche|sh [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 07.27.47 Quit eRivas (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 07.54.19 Quit JdGordon| (Quit: leaving) 08.00.55 Quit CaptainKwel (Quit: Ex-Chat) 08.14.29 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 08.14.29 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 08.14.29 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 08.17.33 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54B66A80.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.20.33 # [Saint]: FS#11141 buffers fine on iPod Video (build against r28960) 08.23.47 # soap: yesterday night I again had the lockup issue with r28960 (w/o ATA DMA change). it happened when creating a new database while playing a mpc or mp3 file. 08.24.37 # soap: also, it seems like USB is not connecting anymore -- need to use EmergencyDisk mode 08.25.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.26.33 # <[Saint]> Buschel: Do you think the ATA patch I'm testing for you would break 11141? 08.26.40 # <[Saint]> I just thought of that now. 08.27.14 # do not know. neverhteless FS#11141 is more or less experimental. I do not use it anymore 08.27.28 # <[Saint]> Ah, fair enough. 08.27.38 # <[Saint]> I thought I would try it out. 08.28.09 # I should just close it as it most likely won't make it into svn 08.28.39 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08.28.44 # <[Saint]> the same could be said for many things on the tracker ;) 08.28.56 # <[Saint]> you never know, you may pick it back up again later 08.33.17 Join mortalscan [0] (~mortalsca@173-166-0-166-newengland.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) 08.39.17 # New commit by 03Buschel (r28971): Fix FS#5317. mp3_encoder does now properly encode mono files. Still there is a bug when using sampling rates != 44100 Hz. 08.40.52 Join Edwerd [0] (~edwerd@bzq-79-182-203-140.red.bezeqint.net) 08.41.25 # r28971 build result: All green 08.43.50 # <[Saint]> Buschel: The line selector seems to have developed some visible tearing while scrolling on iPod Colour. 08.44.15 # <[Saint]> I guess I need to figure out which LCD patch introduces this. 08.46.09 # <[Saint]> Hmmm, actually. perhaps this is a GUI Boost thing. Rolling back to a build without seems to fix it.. 08.46.16 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 08.46.35 # set the CPU to boosted manually and try again 08.46.39 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@124-171-7-125.dyn.iinet.net.au) 08.46.39 Quit JdGordon| (Changing host) 08.46.39 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 08.46.57 # <[Saint]> *derp* ;) 08.47.02 # <[Saint]> Thanks. 08.47.08 # USB is definately broken for iPod Video with r28971 08.48.09 # <[Saint]> Damn, manual boosting doesn't fix it. Why have I not noticed it before? 08.48.26 # [Saint]: that's I wanted to ask you :) 08.48.33 # <[Saint]> I swear it is recent, but it would make sense if LCD changes introduced this. 08.50.39 # no USB for iPod Video with r28953 as well... 08.53.28 # USB works with an old local build (based on r28407) 08.55.27 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 09.00.49 Quit t0rc (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 09.02.17 Quit Buschel (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 09.02.48 Join jordan` [0] (~jordan@jem75-13-78-235-252-137.fbx.proxad.net) 09.06.01 Join Bagder [0] (~danielx@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 09.09.51 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@87-206-240-131.dynamic.chello.pl) 09.10.20 # [Saint]: Are you using theme editor? 09.11.01 # <[Saint]> Only if I really can't see in error in a document usually. 09.11.15 # <[Saint]> Mostly to parse other peoples work. Howcome? 09.12.47 # I see annoying behaviour that when I select .wps directly form sim dir paths to graphics are scrambled (/wps becomes /wps/wps) 09.13.12 # have you seen something like this? 09.14.15 # <[Saint]> I can't say I have, no. 09.14.28 # weird 09.14.37 # let's try again 09.14.45 # <[Saint]> I will usually let the themeeditor create the theme from scratch and then paste code into it though. 09.15.43 # <[Saint]> as in "create new project". 09.16.09 # hmm maybe thats the trick 09.16.32 # <[Saint]> then it creates the folder structure somewhere you choose, with blank .cfg, .wps, .sbs documents etc. 09.16.39 # <[Saint]> then, I paste my code into there. 09.17.17 Quit Edwerd (Quit: Leaving) 09.17.26 # could you try to open existing WPS directly? 09.18.19 # <[Saint]> works as expected here. 09.19.16 # damn 09.21.13 # I get following error http://www.pastie.org/1430515 (it is cropped I think) when I try to load cabbie v2 from .simdisk 09.22.19 # <[Saint]> what about if it's *not* in simdisk? 09.22.47 Join mudd1 [0] (~cmertes@ip-78-94-216-65.unitymediagroup.de) 09.22.59 # charging is simulated in the sim but in an automatic way - battery level drops and then rises simulating being charged. This is a regular pattern that can't be influenced by the user 09.24.00 # <[Saint]> pixelma: but...it can't be switched by a key, which was the point I believe. 09.24.18 # <[Saint]> no way to test charging true/false tags. 09.24.53 # no, it can't be switched - you can still see if your true/false tags are working 09.25.11 # it pretends to be charging 09.25.50 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 09.25.52 # <[Saint]> all that happens when I run my themes through the sim is the battery level alternates from high to low. 09.25.59 # <[Saint]> the charging case never comes up. 09.26.13 # <[Saint]> unless I switch it with hold instead. 09.26.27 # what? 09.27.01 # <[Saint]> as in, instead of checking for charging true false, I check for hold treu/false to test charging tags. 09.27.14 # <[Saint]> well, used to...sim editing is painful. 09.27.15 # you mean if you use another conditional instead? 09.27.56 # <[Saint]> gah...language barries. 09.28.09 # <[Saint]> In the sim, I never get a "charging true" case. 09.28.26 # <[Saint]> so to test if it's working, I'll use another conditiona. 09.29.27 # <[Saint]> the way I see it, it doesn't "pretend to charge" at all...it simply goes slowly from 0 to 100% and back again, repeat. 09.30.01 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54A3B195.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.30.03 # http://www.pastie.org/1430517 <-- such organization of files works but this is not what rockbox uses 09.31.18 # <[Saint]> wodz: what's wrong there? 09.31.36 # <[Saint]> oh...right. yeah, I see it. 09.32.17 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 09.32.46 # while battery percentage "rises" in the sim, charging is "true" - I'm quite sure I tested the colour port of my WPS this way where you could clearly see that it takes effect (shown battery percentage gets a different colour) 09.34.24 # haven't tested *lately* though 09.34.42 # <[Saint]> perhaps it is because I test for %bp before testing for %bc 09.35.09 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@91-66-226-46-dynip.superkabel.de) 09.35.14 # <[Saint]> but, I'm pretty sure charging is never true for me in the sim. 09.36.01 Join petur [0] (d408b802@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.36.31 # I also test for %bp 09.37.45 # well, themeeditor rendering is inaccurate at best 09.38.41 # <[Saint]> wodz: howso? 09.39.27 Quit DerPapst (Client Quit) 09.40.57 # [Saint]: http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/3729/themeeditorcabbiev2.png 09.41.06 Join efyx [0] (~efyx@lap34-1-82-225-185-146.fbx.proxad.net) 09.41.39 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09.41.40 # a wait 09.41.56 # maybe this just wrong screen dimensions 09.42.45 # false alarm, screen dimensions were wrong 09.43.15 # <[Saint]> yes, it doesn't know what device you're making it for unless you create the documents with the editor. 09.43.46 # <[Saint]> so it can't guess screen dimensions. 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(~cstrife89@207.144.201.128) 18.56.19 # some dual core issue maybe? 18.57.49 # I cannot really judge the lates kernel/thread/priority changes (several from r28877 to r2882x) 18.58.03 # oops, up to r2892x 19.00.39 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@unaffiliated/sideral) 19.02.32 # saratoga: no problem. just check http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11748#comment38076, it has a fix for your hastily stitched HWCODEC patch 19.06.01 # sideral: i don't have a lot of time at the moment, but the first patch looks good, i'll try and get it in today 19.06.35 # regarding HWCODEC, most devices have little ram, but they do work with the database (although I think they probably tend to not load it to RAM if that matters) 19.07.06 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@145.116.15.244) 19.07.09 # they can't load it to ram even (it's disabled for them) 19.07.31 # even the 8MB ones? 19.07.44 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.08.08 # the 8MB ones are a hw mod so i'm not sure all the other hwcodec targets are 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I've still got the leather case (http://www.newmp3technology.com/studiocase.htm). If you send me a prepaid mailing envelope it's all yours (raleigh, nc). 20.29.20 # preference given to rockbox developers (I can find your name as a contributor). 20.30.09 # what happened to the player? 20.30.23 # tried to upgrade it, and it shorted. 20.30.42 # so fried. 20.30.57 # i didn't even know you could short an archos 20.31.20 # oh you mean memory upgrade? 20.31.53 # actually the original upgrade directions I found mentioned the shorting problem, but now that I finally got around to it, I couldn't find the same directions again. And it was a drive upgrade 20.35.49 Quit Llorean (Quit: Leaving.) 20.35.55 # New commit by 03jethead71 (r28972): Gigabeat S: Make it a removable mass-storage device. Windows will assign a drive to only the main data partition by default. 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21.39.26 # i mean before i compile anything 21.39.53 # That's probably a question for people who know your ide 21.44.47 # you probably just need to find hte list of defines in the makefile generated by configure and stick that in the ide somewhere 21.44.59 # then config.h will include the right target config for you 21.47.58 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lem0n@ppp-64-143.98-62.inwind.it) 21.52.04 # ah, so with g++ installed i got a m68k-elf corss toolchain to build on cygwin, will post an updated rockboxdev.sh patch tomorrow 21.53.29 # i wonder if the /lib/cpp symlink is actually needed and if rockboxdev.sh should create it if it is, and if it should then remove it too? 21.55.47 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 21.59.44 Quit Strife89TX (Quit: Heading home) 22.09.34 Join tvelocity [0] (~tony@athedsl-4493800.home.otenet.gr) 22.09.35 Quit tvelocity (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.10.00 Join tvelocity [0] (~tony@athedsl-4493800.home.otenet.gr) 22.10.05 Quit tvelocity (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.11.17 Quit komputes (Remote host closed the connection) 22.13.11 Nick Strife1989 is now known as Strife89 (~Strife89@adsl-80-140-184.mcn.bellsouth.net) 22.17.46 Join Sorrento [0] (~sorrento@c-98-250-58-103.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 22.19.37 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@124-171-7-125.dyn.iinet.net.au) 22.19.37 Quit JdGordon| (Changing host) 22.19.37 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 22.25.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.30.50 Quit n1s (Quit: Lämnar) 22.37.29 Quit moos (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 22.40.54 Quit JdGordon| (Quit: leaving) 22.45.21 Join moos [0] (moos@85-171-90-254.rev.numericable.fr) 22.45.22 Quit moos (Changing host) 22.45.22 Join moos [0] (moos@rockbox/staff/moos) 22.57.05 Quit bertrik (Quit: :tiuQ) 22.58.18 Join JdGord [0] (~jonno@122.110.110.29) 23.00.20 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 23.01.27 Quit kevku (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.2 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) 23.11.47 # n1s: (for the logs), I don't know if you worked it out, but it looks like installing g++ would create that symlink, at least according to this: http://www.terrencemiao.com/Webmail/msg00942.html (IIUC, you created that symlink yourself, and then installed g++). 23.19.59 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 23.23.24 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FFF0A37.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.23.24 Quit TheSeven (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.23.38 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 23.24.42 Join webguest86 [0] (~b2a67295@giant.haxx.se) 23.25.20 Quit jgarvey (Quit: Leaving) 23.26.12 Quit webguest86 (Client Quit) 23.29.36 Join zaphee [0] (~user@lin67-4-78-239-42-148.fbx.proxad.net) 23.33.02 Part zaphee 23.35.07 # i forgot,why "typedef struct {int a,b;}Stype;" like things are not good for rockbox? 23.36.08 # and also, is it ok to use c99 features like "for (int a = 0; ;)"? 23.38.30 Quit moos (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 23.41.21 Quit JdGord (Quit: Bye) 23.42.05 # sideral: the issue with bookmarks sometimes not being created htat you mentioned on -dev is because they're not created on idle poweroff 23.42.19 # this is a bug and i know why but i can't think of a particularly clean fix for it that works for all cases 23.42.29 # there's a fix that handles the usual case, though, i just haven;t done it 23.42.41 # ah, that explains it 23.42.42 # the problem is idle poweroff stops playback before calling the poweroff code 23.42.58 # and thus the poweroff sees playback is not active and concludes there's no bookmark to create 23.43.12 # in the "normal" case for idle poweroff this can be fixed by just removing the audio_stop() call 23.43.22 # since audio will get stopped during shutdown anyway, it's redundant 23.43.41 # wait 23.43.45 # i don't mean idle poweroff at all 23.43.47 # i mean the sleep timer 23.43.49 # totally different 23.43.53 # idle poweroff should work. 23.44.18 # the problem case is the sleep timer going off on a device where you can't power off while charging, when it's plugged in 23.44.26 # hmm, I hadn't been using the sleep timer when I was experimenting with bookmarks 23.44.29 # it needs to stop audio because that's the defined behaviour of sleep 23.44.44 # but there's no (easy) way for firmwar eto call up to app to have it write a bookmark 23.44.50 # anyway, sorry 23.44.53 # there may be other bugs too :) 23.44.53 # I see. 23.45.10 # but i fixed several cases of bookmarks not being created some time ago 23.45.11 # I think the simpler explanation is that I may have started the track from the DB 23.45.18 # the sleep timer is the only one i know of that still doesn't work 23.45.29 # which sometimes would create an unusable bookmark and sometimes no bookmark at all 23.45.35 # sorry,i was misremembering what i fixed and what i didn't 23.46.42 # anyway, er, i've poked hte bookmark code quite a bit so feel free to poke me about bugs in it 23.46.54 # i'm not the guy to ask about what the ui should be, though 23.47.03 # and i'm largely indifferent to your resume use case 23.47.32 # I did not mean to single out bookmarks as the buggiest piece of rockbox, i only meant to illustrate that it was quite a complex system 23.47.42 # :) 23.47.42 # but i did used to use bookmarks quite heavily 23.47.55 # sideral: are you implying that rockbox is even buggier on average? 23.48.09 # aaargh, no ;) 23.48.17 # :) 23.48.40 # although playing with svn head can sometimes give you that impression :) 23.49.09 # i personally don't find bookmarks complicated.. 23.49.19 # but then i dont use the database for anything i would want to bookmark 23.49.42 # which simplifies matters some 23.49.58 # yeah, missing DB support is the major reason why I never use bookmarks even when I'd like to 23.50.38 # but I also did not like the automatic bookmark creation feature because it clutters the file system and the recent-bookmark list 23.50.47 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 23.50.54 # with bookmarks that I don't actually need 23.51.01 # well, that's why i added a feature to prevent that from happening 23.51.08 # though i think it's perhaps not documented very well 23.51.09 Quit GeekShad0w (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 23.51.23 # if you set bookmarks to auto update on stop it will only add bookmarks to existing files 23.51.33 # so you just need one bookmark file in your podcast folder, or whatever 23.51.36 # and then it bookmarks just there 23.51.38 # and nowhere else 23.52.04 # I found that feature and even read the documentation, but somehow I had trouble understanding it, or it didn't fit my use case 23.52.22 # well please improve the docs 23.52.27 # or rename it, if you can think of a better name 23.52.31 # as that name kinda sucks 23.52.39 # it may not handle every case, no 23.52.44 Join moos [0] (moos@85-171-90-254.rev.numericable.fr) 23.52.44 Quit moos (Changing host) 23.52.44 Join moos [0] (moos@rockbox/staff/moos) 23.52.49 # I'll leave that to someone who actually uses the feature 23.53.00 # it comes down to the disjoin between the different ways a playlist can be spawned 23.53.14 # also, I'm too busy defending autoresume on the mailing list ;) 23.53.18 # bookmarks are on the playlist, not the file, and different kinds of playlist work annoyingly differently 23.53.34 # yep 23.53.48 # that would be something clearly worth attacking ;) 23.54.07 # which is one of the reasons I think a per-track feature such as autoresume is warranted 23.54.12 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: Bye ;)) 23.54.26 # sure, like i said i'm not aainst it 23.54.35 # though i also object to the original version on complexity grounds 23.54.52 # i get your use cases, i just don't need htem :) 23.55.25 # the only thing I regard as mildly complex in autoresume is the configuration 23.55.39 # yes 23.55.40 # that's what imean 23.55.59 # and we already got rid of one confusing setting with Thomas Martitz' help 23.56.02 # anyway, i'll leave you to that one 23.56.15 # but if you have thoughts on bookmarking feel free to poke me 23.56.24 # OK, thanks, will do! 23.56.26 # and i may be able to help with that, for different use cases 23.58.10 # cool, thanks -- and shame on you for eliminating the "no one works on bookmarks" argument I was going to include in my next mailing-list reply 23.58.12 # ;) 23.58.18 # well it was a while ago 23.58.25 # and i should really have fixed the sleep timer thing by now 23.58.30 # but i have been busy )