--- Log for 19.01.111 Server: zelazny.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 19 days and 19 hours ago 00.00.28 Quit guymann (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.01.34 Join guymann [0] (~charles@69.182.43.77) 00.04.31 Join mystica555 [0] (~Mike@m422636d0.tmodns.net) 00.08.17 Quit eRivas (Quit: CGI:IRC) 00.16.11 Join JdGordon1 [0] (~jonno@vl10.gw.ok-labs.com) 00.16.17 Quit n1s (Quit: Lämnar) 00.17.43 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-175-108.student.uu.se) 00.17.44 Quit n1s (Changing host) 00.17.44 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 00.32.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.32.49 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 00.38.30 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 00.40.10 Quit ender` (Quit: Our chances of being caught by the RIAA or IFPI are somewhat less than being hit by lightning - or choking on a wasabi-flavoured peanut. -- TheRegister) 00.45.06 Quit sasquatch (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2) 00.45.31 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@p4FF2D543.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.46.14 Nick scorche` is now known as scorche (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 00.46.18 # <[Saint]> JdGordon1: what would you think about allowing a theme to contain a .kbd file? 00.46.30 # no 00.47.44 # <[Saint]> Is that a hard no? I understand that it shouldn't be allowed to be set in the cfg. but...I don't see why one can't be included. 00.48.14 # oh ah 00.48.20 # you're talking themesite, not theme 00.48.29 # <[Saint]> yeah. 00.48.35 # which means I'm nott he one to talk to :D 00.48.57 # <[Saint]> well...not necessarily...but I'm just putting it out there. 00.49.05 # it would seem *slightly* weird to allow the file in ther ebut not allow it to be in the cfg 00.51.10 # <[Saint]> Yeah, I wouldn't want to force it on a user, but I go to the extra effort of making a basic latin charset .kbd file for my themes because if you have a large iconset loaded the built in keyboard can look all kinds of crap. 00.51.46 # <[Saint]> the line selector tries to include a Y height icon, in an X height line selector...it looks, yuck. 00.54.38 # <[Saint]> I believe it would be possible to make .kbd files based on the built in keyboard, so that userfont would be used instead of sysfont...if that is a more appropriate idea. 00.59.53 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng276.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 01.04.41 # <[Saint]> JdGordon1: where does .fms art go again? 01.04.49 # <[Saint]> it's some magic foldername, no? 01.05.06 # [Saint]: speaking of iconsets, I never said (or meant to imply) that I wouldn't like your icons. I just dislike the idea that we have icons in svn for different screen sizes that don't match 01.05.38 # and I said it would be fine if the one in svn would be changed to match your icons. you said that's more likely to happen but you didn't do anything about yet 01.06.12 # <[Saint]> I don't necessarily see why I have to be the one to do it ;) 01.06.46 # you seem to have the required talent :) 01.07.23 # <[Saint]> the icon system needs a big shake-up in my opinion. 01.07.40 # in fact, I use your icons since a long time, but IMO it's not suitable for svn to have a mismatch in the shipped icons 01.07.52 # <[Saint]> that's the reason why the icons differ in the first place, I tried to math what we use them for, instead of their intended purpose. 01.08.04 # <[Saint]> *match 01.08.18 # <[Saint]> there's at least 5 icons in there that never get used. 01.08.38 # <[Saint]> and about the same that get used for something other than their function suggests. 01.09.12 # <[Saint]> like...svn cabbie has a lightbulb icon for the yes/no screen...wtf?!? 01.09.24 # <[Saint]> I replaced that with a question mark...seems sane. 01.09.48 # <[Saint]> the icon function is actually called questionmark...yet cabbie iconset thinks a lightbulb will do ;) 01.10.17 # yeah the icons are a bit odd 01.10.25 # a few of the assignments of icons in the source are a bit dubious too 01.10.37 # i fixed the system menu ages ago to use the same icon as system settings instead of questionmark :) 01.10.39 # <[Saint]> I'd be more than happy to work on a global iconset, if the system behind the icons was refined ;) 01.11.14 # what's wrong with the system behind? 01.11.42 # <[Saint]> viewers are pretty messed up. 01.11.42 # [Saint] in the folder with the presets iirc 01.11.51 # <[Saint]> JdGordon1: thanks. 01.12.00 # viewer icons are weird/broken, yes 01.12.05 # system icons are ok 01.12.14 # <[Saint]> it's absolutely impossible to get viewers working right it seems... 01.12.23 # <[Saint]> even with an accurate .icons file. 01.13.07 # <[Saint]> been like this for as long as I've been snooping around here, it's actually been improved a bit...but still quite broken. 01.14.05 # that's quite possibly true 01.14.27 # I'm not into the icons very much but I know we need bigger ones :) 01.15.24 # <[Saint]> yeah, the one thing I don't really like is that a lot of things don'e seem to respect the icon function name, or the iconset doesn't accurately represent the function. 01.15.42 # <[Saint]> the idea that I tweaked the RaaA iconset around that brokenness is terrible. 01.16.00 # <[Saint]> *don't 01.16.13 # the icon set names are very arbitrary 01.17.05 # <[Saint]> I suppose...I tried to fit the RaaA iconset around what we actually use them for. 01.17.27 # <[Saint]> a lot of them the use case reflects the function, but the icon (cabbie svn) is just...wtf? 01.18.03 # fix it :) 01.18.26 # The problem with it there is some of that seemed to have gone circular 01.18.35 # where uses of the icon end up being based on the icon in cabbie 01.18.39 # rather than the abstract description :) 01.19.19 Join krazykit [0] (~krazykit@99-126-205-52.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) 01.19.36 # <[Saint]> I can fix the iconset...but the way viewers are defined is beyond me (I've looked, and it *should* work from what I can see), and.. 01.19.41 # <[Saint]> what Torne just said. 01.19.44 # <[Saint]> yes, that. 01.20.31 # anyway yes i am bothered by these things so if ou have suggestions bug me to change things 01.22.05 # <[Saint]> iirc teru tried to look into the broken viewers thing once upon a tiem. 01.22.13 # <[Saint]> *time too 01.25.38 # <[Saint]> It will be a pretty big undertaking, but I'll grab the current Tango! iconset (bloody thing is always changing) and start looking into making a global iconset. 01.26.26 # <[Saint]> I'm thinking of introducing new sizes, also. I'm thinking 12x12, 16x16 and 24x24 01.27.30 # <[Saint]> 16x16 would look nice on the beast/Video/etc. 01.27.48 # <[Saint]> ondas too. 01.33.45 # I wouldn't stop you from making even bigger icons :) 24x24 is a bit too small for high dpi screens 01.34.11 # the onda's default font is cleary not thumb friendly 01.35.33 Nick kugel_ is now known as kugel (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 01.35.39 # <[Saint]> Hmmm...what was it? "But I don't have to care about larger screens" ;) 01.36.18 # the code currently hardcodes 24x24 as the largets it will acccept 01.36.32 # oh it does? 01.36.46 # <[Saint]> yes, that was a big factor in my decision to make a 24px iconset :P 01.37.11 # <[Saint]> there's npthing to stop it being increased from what I could tell though. 01.37.16 # <[Saint]> *nothing too 01.37.19 # nope 01.37.24 # except the binsize crowd of course :) 01.37.31 # ramsize 01.37.51 # the binsize crowd also worries about ramsize, yes :) 01.37.56 # ram usage even 01.39.12 # could it be allocated on the skin buffer? 01.39.41 # <[Saint]> it could...but you'd probably want to increase the skin buffer then too making it irrelevant. 01.40.06 Part toffe82 01.40.41 # <[Saint]> otherwise themes that just scraped in before would suddenly stop working. 01.41.00 # even if we increase the skin buffer by the amount the current hardcoded array takes, it allows bigger skins with smaller icons and bigger icons so a win 01.42.47 # <[Saint]> Hmmm...good point. 01.42.47 # <[Saint]> what does Android use for hdpi icons? 01.42.47 # <[Saint]> 74x74 no? 01.42.49 Quit MagusG (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.42.59 Join MagusG [0] (magusg@c-71-59-57-46.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) 01.43.55 # 74x74x32(x2?) is alot of ram 01.44.56 # <[Saint]> yeah...and you wouldn't want to start handling RaaA icons in a completely different way I assume. 01.45.20 # 74x74 is too large 01.45.41 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 01.45.54 # <[Saint]> but that is the hdpi icon size they expect no? 01.45.55 # the current font is 35px high, so I think 32px would work well 01.46.03 # <[Saint]> "they" being Android 01.46.36 # we talk about the icons we use in lists, not icons android uses for its widgets 01.48.09 # <[Saint]> wouldn't it look nicer if the lists used the native icon size for the platform? 01.48.21 # <[Saint]> it means me work for me though... ;) 01.48.39 # <[Saint]> it would also mean we need more fonts. 01.48.52 # <[Saint]> (and AA fonts too :P) 01.49.55 # why is it more work for you? 01.50.10 # most of android's lists don't even have an icon 01.50.10 # 64x64 (or similar) would actually allow for some interesting theme experiments on small screen players, like e.g. having only one menu option visible at a time (like some OFs do) 01.50.25 # <[Saint]> it would mean makiing more iconsets. 01.50.31 # I guess doing that "right" may need more than just big icons though 01.50.38 # <[Saint]> more iconsets of more resolutions == more work ;) 01.51.45 Quit GeekShadow (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 01.53.31 # * JdGordon1 curses his inability to figure out how to make the lists skinable 02.02.26 Quit milk (Quit: baaaiiii) 02.02.35 Quit Hadaka (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 02.03.01 Join Naked [0] (~naked@naked.iki.fi) 02.03.01 Nick Naked is now known as Hadaka (~naked@naked.iki.fi) 02.15.15 Quit kugel (Remote host closed the connection) 02.32.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.44.33 Quit mudd1 (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 02.44.50 Quit designate72 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 02.56.11 Join designate72 [0] (~aaron@adsl-065-013-002-216.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 02.59.48 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 03.06.03 Quit sasquatch (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 03.07.23 Quit amiconn (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03.07.30 Join amiconn [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 03.08.42 Quit Rob2223 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03.12.51 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 03.14.06 Join vee [0] (~vek@c-76-21-60-192.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 03.15.21 # blUpE! 03.17.44 # anybody know if there's a patch for rockbox so ipods can play in cars via usb? 03.19.14 Join Horschti [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 03.23.11 Quit Horscht (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 03.25.40 Join GodEater_ [0] (~bibble@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 03.28.15 Quit GodEater (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 03.30.50 # vee: we support some variants of the ipod accessory protocol but modern car head units use a very recent and quite complicated protocol that we have virtually no idea how it works 03.31.08 # vee: unfortunately none of the specs are available and nobody has taken the time to reverse engineer it at this point 03.31.30 # oo, yea i have a new sony DSX-S300BTX 03.32.39 # just updated the rockbox on my bw 4th gen and i see some of the usb modes have been fixed, loving that 03.33.47 # the stereo's themselves are using the software on the device to play or just as a portable hdd and it finds the itunes folder, ect ? 03.34.03 # Not entirely sure. 03.34.31 # I *believe* the way it works, at least for *some* devices, is that the stereo talks a magical protocol over SCSI requests which basically lets them browse the itunesdb contents without having to parse it themselves, i.e. the ipod firmware does that bit 03.34.44 # then once it selects a track the ipod basically just tells the head unit where the file for that track is 03.34.53 # and then the head unit reads that using normal disk access and decodes it itself 03.35.01 # but this is about 95% speculation 03.35.06 # based on stuff i've read on the internet 03.35.08 # ah 03.35.13 # i don't have such a device to test it out 03.35.30 # yea sounds like a long project to start 03.35.32 # it's also possible that there's more than one way this is done and that even if what i described *is* one of theoptoins, not all units work that way 03.35.56 # if i owned a device that did it i would probably be interested in reversing it 03.36.12 # but since I don't it's impractical, and i wouldn't really be too motivated to do it with a borrowed device 03.36.22 # makes sense 03.37.01 Join fdinel [0] (~Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 03.38.34 # older devices like remote controls/docks/etc use a much simpler protocol which was much easier to reverse, and were already reversed by various unofficial accessory manufacturers, so the info for that is mostly around online already :) 03.39.22 # well that stuff is probably patched into the newest build, or is that in the patches page only? 03.40.07 # i think pretty much all accessory support that anyone has written is already committed 03.40.15 # would be nice to load a nix onto the stereo itself, i think it's too new yet 03.40.19 # there may be one or two patches around but i think they just add various debug/tracing 03.40.23 # rather than supporting more stuff 03.40.28 # ah 03.41.39 Quit leavittx (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 03.46.44 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FFF1ABE.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.49.14 # so out of curiosity, is there a method to 'sniff' usb signals between devices? (like the stereo and the ipod, or even a computer and the ipod?) 03.52.41 # Yes, but depending exactly what you want to do it can be a pain without specialised equipment 03.52.52 # we do have a USB protocol analyser box somewhere that belongs to the project, though 03.53.02 # some things can be done in software from rockbox 03.53.05 # it depends. 03.53.08 # anyway, i'm off ;) 03.53.15 # thanks for the infos, Torne 03.55.09 Quit JdGordon| (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) 04.03.53 Quit designate72 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 04.07.34 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 04.10.57 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.11.49 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FFF1ABE.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.23.03 Join Barahir [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590fcb12.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.25.59 Quit Barahir_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.29.06 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.29.07 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.29.25 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.29.53 Quit fdinel (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 04.30.53 # New commit by 03jethead71 (r29087): Reset USB devices before turning them off or else presumably the PHY is still enabled after disconnect. 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And thats only chip manufactured only for apple? 06.58.12 # <[Saint]> If you're very lucky you can work from a datasheet from a similar chip. 06.59.29 Join antil33t [0] (antil33t@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 06.59.34 # [Saint]: i bet itd be a jobs 1liner: "no." 06.59.49 # one-worder even 07.00.00 # <[Saint]> but, you kind of need to know how all the parts of the puzzle fit together. It's not too much use knowing how just one part works. 07.00.54 # <[Saint]> or, you can even understand the hardware to a great extent, and not be able to get third party code running on it. 07.02.21 # is ok, many chip docu(secrets) cames out when product, devices are old. 07.14.08 # goto go, gl, guys, cya soon! 07.15.05 # [Saint]: did you get your galaxy theme running in the sdl-app yet? 07.15.35 # <[Saint]> I haven't compiled an SDL app. 07.15.45 # ah, so you're still on the edtir? 07.15.55 # <[Saint]> themesite seems to think it's ok...so, I'm stumped. 07.16.15 # its online? 07.17.03 # <[Saint]> I'm still waiting for a laorious DL to finish before I can compile an svn .apk and test all the later additions. 07.17.38 # <[Saint]> and no, I tried uploading it to the onda page, knowing it would fail due to the backdrop. 07.18.05 # <[Saint]> (assuming I'd get a helpful hint on any broken touch syntax) 07.18.26 # <[Saint]> it running fine in gigabeast sim proves the rest of the syntax is 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Take care of a few atomic hotspots. 10.19.39 # r29088 build result: All green 10.21.18 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:7d0:0:f9af:215:c5ff:fe7e:794d) 10.32.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.37.17 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@dslb-088-069-155-123.pools.arcor-ip.net) 11.05.04 # New commit by 03jethead71 (r29089): SPC Codec: AS3525 targets should be fast enough for realtime BRR decode and echo. 11.08.20 Join digiw0rx [0] (~digiw0rx@rowe840.plus.com) 11.08.30 # hey guys 11.08.56 # r29089 build result: All green 11.10.11 Quit mudd1 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 11.10.14 # anyone know, if theres any possiblity of a nano 3g port? 11.11.37 # it's a possibility. check out www.freemyipod.org 11.11.59 # in particular: http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/Status 11.12.41 # oo its getting there! 11.12.50 # no drivers have been written for lcd or flash memory yet though (both pretty critical!) - maybe you can help? 11.13.49 # im not the best programmer tbh lol 11.13.52 # i can have a look thjo 11.13.53 # tho* 11.19.38 Quit digiw0rx () 11.20.04 Quit lifeless__ (Quit: Ex-Chat) 11.20.05 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 11.20.46 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 11.22.25 Join eddiecoyle [0] (~b2749050@giant.haxx.se) 11.23.46 # good afternoon everyone, I'm an idiot .I'm trying to register at the forums but I can't seem to get past the verification questions 11.24.14 # What am I supposed to enter in the box next to "Please enter the following phrase - no spam:" 11.24.15 Join swilde [0] (~wilde@aktaia.intevation.org) 11.24.16 # ? 11.25.19 # okay okay I figured it out 11.25.22 Quit eddiecoyle (Client Quit) 11.26.32 # * [Saint] wonders how many people take that lierally, and enter "no spam". 11.26.43 # <[Saint]> *literally, even. 11.31.15 Join stripwax__ [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 11.33.05 Quit Kitar|st () 11.33.14 Quit stripwax (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 11.47.20 Join splinty [0] (~splinty@92.251.255.5.threembb.ie) 11.49.16 # Hi all, I have a 5g 80gig iPod and just installed the current version of rockbox. I have existing music on the iPod so when I try access my music it starts to rebuild the db. Problem is. It doesn't seem to stop scanning. I have about 10k of songs But it counts to over 100k. Any ideas? 12.00.27 Join Kitar|st [0] (~Kitarist@BSN-182-84-128.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 12.02.12 # <[Saint]> when it's scanning, it's not reporting only media files. 12.02.24 # <[Saint]> rather every file on the device. 12.02.41 # splinty: how long is it already scanning and did you chose "update" (or have auto-update enabled) - or "initialize"? By the way the number doesn't represent files but all items, AFAIK even directories are counted 12.06.01 # It's scanning nearly an hour now. And I tried to access the db and it said initialise. It's currently on "building database -44k found" 12.08.41 Join teru [0] (~teru@KD059133111160.ppp.dion.ne.jp) 12.11.46 # that's quite a bit too long. I just thought that update/auto-update without dircache takes longer than one might expect but that's really too long 12.13.51 # in most of the cases this is caused by broken or too big tags (like e.g. really long comments or large embedded album art) in one or more files 12.14.15 # One other thing. I had installed rb yesterday and it scanned db fine and gave access. Last night I had an error with it not picking up new media so I enabled auto update and for some reason the device crashed. I revolted and it gave me a blackscreen error so I decided to uninstall rockbox and the bootloader and then reinstall 12.14.30 # It uninstalled rb but not the bootloader 12.15.20 # So I reinstalled rb and it won't scan the db correctly since. Is there a db table it could be reading that is falsely identifying files? 12.15.26 # sounds like there could be filesystem errors? Did you check the disk? 12.16.41 # Not yet. Is there a way of doing that on the device or with the rb utility? 12.17.05 # (it's up to 50k now by the way) 12.22.06 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 12.23.16 # And now the battery has just died on me :( sigh. It doesn't appear to be meant to be 12.26.49 Quit vee (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12.28.03 # you check the filesystem with some tools of your PC's operating system, e.g. on Windows it would be chkdsk 12.28.39 # <[Saint]> refusing to uninstall the bootloader, or not being able to rather, is something I have seen on my devices before with filesystem errors. 12.32.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.46.21 # Ok. Would it be safe to let chkdsk repair the drive? 12.57.39 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 12.59.14 # <[Saint]> chkdsk should be able to repair the errors, if it finds any, yes. but you don't have to have it make any changes, you can choose not to repair/try to repair fs error is finds (if any) 13.01.00 # <[Saint]> if filesystems errors are found and chkdsk can't repair them, iTunes should be able to resotre the player to a default state, at the cost of losing the data on it. 13.01.14 # <[Saint]> (though you can back up data before restoring) 13.04.10 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 13.09.54 # So just run chkdsk :e /f and see how it goes? 13.14.46 # <[Saint]> I don't run chkdsk from the commandline personally, so I couldn't comment there. 13.22.37 # Ok it's done. I'm goin to rescan the db now but is there any settings I should have? Auto update is on 13.26.26 Join mudd1 [0] (~cmertes@2001:638:504:20e0:221:70ff:fe83:655e) 13.29.13 # I can't create bookmarks anymore ... previously I had deleted a directory (including some bookmark files) on the SD card 13.29.33 # Is there a connection? Is this a bug? Or something stupid I did? 13.30.00 # I tried to delete the recent bookmarks file but that didn't fix the problem 13.34.05 # mudd1: how did you start playback? you cannot create bookmarks in certain cases. e.g. when you start the playback from database. 13.34.33 # I created the playlist from the file browser 13.34.57 # this is the usual way I create playlists and it used to work with bookmarks 13.35.18 # but I admit I didn't get my head around the whole bookmarking thing yet 13.35.20 # it confuses me 13.35.29 # as do playlists actually 13.35.51 # but I don't want to start a usability discussion ... again ;) 13.38.40 # Am I right that it's a difference whether I create a playlist by just starting a track in the file browser or by using the context menu as I have to to recursively add music in a directory? 13.40.34 # if you use the context menu to start playback, then you cannot create bookmark. 13.40.43 # ah ok 13.40.46 # that explains it 13.40.51 # kind of at least ;) 13.41.16 # so is there a way to recursively add tracks in a directory tree without disabling bookmarks? 13.41.40 # create a playlist file. 13.42.17 # so I create a dynamic playlist as before but then save it in a file and then it works? 13.42.28 # s/in/to/ 13.43.31 # context menu -> playlist catalog -> new playlist (or somethinglike) or start playback and select "save current playlist" in context menu of WPS 13.43.39 # ok 13.43.54 # thanks a lot teru and sorry for probably not reading the manual carefully enough 13.44.08 Join JdGord [0] (~jonno@122.110.142.90) 13.44.52 # (i'm using the language other than english, so name of the menu might not be accurate) 13.47.10 Join Mic92 [0] (~Mic92@84-23-68-181.blue.kundencontroller.de) 13.47.18 Quit kkit|sh (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 13.49.31 Quit splinty (Quit: Colloquy for iPhone - http://colloquy.mobi) 13.49.31 # Can I bookmark the last position in podcasts/audio books with rockbox? 13.51.40 # yes 13.52.00 # New commit by 03teru (r29090): image viewer: ppm: ... 13.53.54 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lem0n@ppp-154-136.98-62.inwind.it) 13.56.00 # r29090 build result: All green 13.56.57 # n1s: Link for this? 13.57.28 # Mic92: it's described in the manual, i think 13.58.31 # you can do it from the wps context menu 14.01.20 # I need a new Player, but I'm undecided which one. 14.02.56 # I heard of this project some times ago and thought why don't try this firmware. 14.04.18 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.04.26 Join antil33t [0] (~Mudkips@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 14.12.02 # How you think about this one: http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B002NX0ME6/ref=noref?ie=UTF8&s=ce-de&psc=1 14.20.01 # New commit by 03teru (r29091): image viewer: png: do not show custom error message when there is not enough memory. get rid of use of iv->plug_buf. 14.21.44 # Ok, I ordered it. 14.23.28 # When rockbox run on my player, i'm gonna try the luaplugin. 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15.51.35 # looks more like an oversight to me 15.52.29 # unless there are issues with the nano2g and ipod classic they could just enable it as well since keys will be the same as for all other newer ipods 15.53.29 # pixelma: do you think it's worth it to introduce a new "feature" to exclude the description of the a-b repeat for targets that dojn' thave it? 15.54.08 # it once was disabled for targets with not enough buttons until this one button control scheme was developed (and that's using the same button as used for something else I believe so this might be the reason why it's already in the keymaps) 15.54.37 # n1s: no, I rather think that every target could have it - if the charcell Player already does... 15.55.06 # yes, the player uses the single button scheme though 15.55.36 # the thing with having enable macros like this is that someone needs to remember to enable it for every new port 15.56.24 # ah, the ab repeat set markers is the same as the skip to next/prev dir combos 15.56.28 # indeed, and I guess it's mostly copy-pasting from some other config file - chose the wrong one and you'll miss it 15.57.49 # ok, so now to wait around for people with these targets to test 16.01.08 # the Ondio uses it too and I think I tried and it worked some time ago though so will retry later if you remind me 16.01.41 Join t0rc [0] (~t0rc@unaffiliated/t0rc/x-5233201) 16.02.13 # pixelma: i meant wait for people to test enabling it for the targets where it's disabled 16.03.06 # i noticed a small glitch in the beast manual btw, looks like when remote key is missing the description ends up in the remote key column in keymaps, see http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-gigabeats/rockbox-buildch4.html#x7-510004.3.1 16.04.38 # not automatically, then there is a \opt{HAVEREMOTEKEYMAP}{&} missing 16.05.06 # it has remote keymap but apparently not all actions are mapped on the remote 16.05.19 # see the link i posted 16.06.11 # my point was more the "&" as a column seperator for targets which have that opt defined.., 16.06.31 Quit robin0800 (Remote host closed the connection) 16.06.43 # if you look at a few lines above, you'll see how it should look like 16.07.27 Join slooopy [0] (~sloo@p5493D5F4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 16.07.46 # ah, i though it used more magic than that 16.08.46 # hmm, according to that table the same combo is mapped to 2 actions 16.10.00 Join milk [0] (~milk@cpc1-sgyl9-0-0-cust268.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com) 16.11.07 Part LinusN 16.11.40 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 16.13.55 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.14.05 Join antil33t [0] (antil33t@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 16.16.36 # New commit by 03nls (r29093): Gigabeat S manual: fix a small glitch in the wps key controls table and correct an incorrect button combo. 16.18.18 Join preglow [0] (thomj@rockbox/developer/preglow) 16.19.42 Nick Mic92 is now known as Mic92|away (~Mic92@84-23-68-181.blue.kundencontroller.de) 16.20.37 # r29093 build result: All green 16.25.38 Join jordan` [0] (~jordan@jem75-13-78-235-252-137.fbx.proxad.net) 16.32.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.34.51 Quit liar (Read error: No route to host) 16.36.08 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 16.50.24 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@168.16.226.109) 16.52.55 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 16.57.01 Quit milk (Quit: baaaiiii) 16.58.47 Quit elcan (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.03.14 Join elcan [0] (user36@pr0.us) 17.06.35 Part Zagor 17.11.12 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: free(me)) 17.17.06 Join Kitr88 [0] (~Kitarist@BSN-182-142-238.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 17.19.14 Quit Kitar|st (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.21.14 Quit Kitr88 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.21.21 Join Kitar|st [0] (Kitarist@BSN-182-94-182.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 17.24.18 Quit GeekShadow (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 17.31.53 Join sudela [0] (~Osman@chello062178214022.10.15.vie.surfer.at) 17.37.05 Quit sudela (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 17.38.18 Join toffe82 [0] (~chatzilla@maf.wirelesstcp.net) 17.50.19 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 17.51.23 Join einhirn_ [0] (~Miranda@p54850745.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 17.53.02 Join plux [0] (~yogurt@h-34-71.A238.priv.bahnhof.se) 18.01.39 Quit einhirn_ (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 18.04.59 Quit petur (Quit: *plop*) 18.21.01 # in Perl, is there a way to put the modifier for a regexp into a variable? 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I don't know if it has been discussed before, but I'd like to propose a small change to how long lines scroll in RB. I'd like to add a small delay after the end of one "scroll round" and the beginning of the next round so that it's easier to catch the start of the text. 22.26.12 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 22.29.11 Join mystica555 [0] (~mike@m442636d0.tmodns.net) 22.29.12 Quit mystica555 (Excess Flood) 22.29.41 Join mystica555 [0] (~mike@m442636d0.tmodns.net) 22.32.00 Join GeekShad0w [0] (~Antoine@ree79-1-78-237-225-34.fbx.proxad.net) 22.32.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.33.06 Quit GeekShadow (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.37.46 Join sudela [0] (~Osman@chello062178214022.10.15.vie.surfer.at) 22.43.56 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng327.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 22.51.06 Join user890104_ [0] (~Venci@6bez10.info) 22.53.29 Quit user890104 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 22.54.44 Quit fml (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203075014]) 22.55.39 Quit mystica555 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.57.02 Quit efyx (Remote host closed the connection) 22.57.12 Nick user890104_ is now known as user890104 (~Venci@6bez10.info) 23.01.30 Join mystica555 [0] (~mike@m442636d0.tmodns.net) 23.03.08 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 23.04.15 Quit GeekShad0w (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 23.08.28 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 23.08.50 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: free(me)) 23.16.17 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 23.21.00 Join user890104_ [0] (~Venci@212.233.245.245) 23.21.42 Quit user890104 (Read error: No route to host) 23.21.48 Join user890104__ [0] (~Venci@6bez10.info) 23.22.01 Nick user890104__ is now known as user890104 (~Venci@6bez10.info) 23.22.07 Quit dantje_ (Quit: Ex-Chat) 23.22.53 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@124-171-44-96.dyn.iinet.net.au) 23.22.53 Quit JdGordon| (Changing host) 23.22.53 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 23.25.52 Quit user890104_ (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 23.27.04 # <[Saint]> fml: (logs) isn't that what biderectional scroll limit and scroll start delay are for? 23.30.24 Quit bluebrother (*.net *.split) 23.30.24 Quit scorche (*.net *.split) 23.30.24 Quit pixelma (*.net *.split) 23.30.24 Quit evilnick (*.net *.split) 23.30.24 Quit jfc (*.net *.split) 23.30.25 Quit FOAD (*.net *.split) 23.30.25 Quit n17ikh (*.net *.split) 23.30.25 Quit ThomasAH (*.net *.split) 23.33.02 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 23.33.02 Join scorche [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 23.33.02 Join pixelma [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 23.33.02 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@ers107b.gotadsl.co.uk) 23.33.02 Join jfc [0] (~john@dpc6682208002.direcpc.com) 23.33.02 Join FOAD [0] (~dok@83.161.135.61) 23.33.02 Join n17ikh [0] (~n17ikh@c-68-59-25-51.hsd1.sc.comcast.net) 23.33.02 Join ThomasAH [0] (~thomas@aktaia.intevation.org) 23.40.31 Quit komputes (Remote host closed the connection) 23.46.40 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.53=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 23.48.18 Quit JdGordon| (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.54.04 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@SEAS074.wlan.seas.upenn.edu) 23.56.40 Join Keripo1 [0] (~Keripo@SEAS074.wlan.seas.upenn.edu) 23.58.56 Quit Keripo (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)