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last edit by "BaseUserMapping_333" 01.45.36 # they added a user "SlutFuck" 01.45.45 # and it doesn't appear that they are a valid user 01.46.04 # <[Saint]> well...I should hope it's not a real name ;) 01.46.16 # <[Saint]> so, it's presumably safe to remove. 01.46.34 # well, I don't know what the user "BaseUserMapping_333" is either 01.46.55 # <[Saint]> no...that does seem suspicious. 01.47.09 # <[Saint]> I assume that that user doesn't appear on the wikiuserlist 01.47.31 # <[Saint]> BaseUserMapping_333 certainly isn't a real name either 01.47.46 # <[Saint]> ...I hope 01.47.48 # no, the last edit says that it was done by an admin user 01.48.04 # <[Saint]> ok...weird. 01.48.15 # <[Saint]> perhaps leave it then. 01.48.28 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.48.48 # yeah, I'm guessing bagder or zagor, or someone that is an admin needs to look into it 01.49.04 # it looks like the wiki may have been broken into 01.50.13 # <[Saint]> You'd think they ("they" being said hackers in theory") would choose a less obvious name 01.50.34 # yeah, I would have thought 02.02.57 Quit stripwax (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.05.54 Join factor [0] (~factor@75.108.68.114) 02.10.56 Join Strife1989 [0] (~Strife89@168.16.236.98) 02.11.11 Nick Strife1989 is now known as Strife89-LoL (~Strife89@168.16.236.98) 02.14.12 Quit kugel (Remote host closed the connection) 02.22.09 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Reboot.) 02.29.49 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@168.16.226.109) 02.32.18 Join milk [0] (~milk@cpc1-sgyl9-0-0-cust268.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com) 02.36.14 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng117.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 02.41.51 # I saw this BaseUserMapping thing a few times recently and related it to the failed registration attempts (e.g. by MysteryKeeper) but am not sure 02.44.15 Join Galois [0] (djao@efnet-math.org) 02.49.04 Quit Strife89-LoL (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 02.56.54 Join JdGord [0] (~jonno@122.110.147.230) 02.59.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.08.36 # Buschel. Things have been really busy here, I'll be ready to test whatever you need Saturday morning (GMT -4). Sunday I take off again. 03.09.31 Join ne [0] (~44e4490e@giant.haxx.se) 03.10.39 # does anyone know how to play quick saved games from rockboy and copy the saved file onto our computer to play on the gba emulator? 03.11.34 # there is a forum thread on at least going the other direction, ne. 03.11.34 Quit ne (Client Quit) 03.11.43 Join kjosh62 [0] (~44e4490e@giant.haxx.se) 03.11.52 # I don't recall if it mentions how to go your way. But it's a place to start. 03.12.31 Join Strife89-LoL [0] (~Strife89@168.16.226.70) 03.12.31 # does anyone know how to play gbc files on my gba emulator by moving my quick saved rockboy file onto my computer? 03.16.05 Join Strife1989 [0] (~Strife89@168.16.236.98) 03.17.45 Quit Strife89-LoL (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 03.22.50 Quit Strife1989 (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 03.23.46 Quit kjosh62 (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 03.26.28 Join GodEater [0] (~bibble@5add6ce3.bb.sky.com) 03.26.28 Quit GodEater (Changing host) 03.26.28 Join GodEater [0] (~bibble@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 03.26.51 Quit GodEater_ (Read error: Operation timed out) 03.28.34 Quit JdGord (Quit: Bye) 03.38.11 Quit user890104 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 03.47.42 Quit Dreamxtreme (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03.57.06 # Buschel: Wow, that's sort of what I wouldn't expect. I agree about the battery life; the problem isn't really critical. How does it compare to bootup because that reset happens then as well? 03.59.59 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 04.06.49 Quit mc2739 (Quit: leaving) 04.08.10 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 04.13.04 Join Antonio_ [0] (~chatzilla@cpe-66-91-117-118.hawaii.res.rr.com) 04.13.09 # hey folks 04.15.11 Join Dreamxtreme [0] (~Dre@92.30.104.50) 04.16.30 Quit sudela (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 04.17.19 Join mystica555 [0] (~Mike@m442636d0.tmodns.net) 04.17.57 # I'm trying to install rockbox on a 30 gig ipod video (5.5th generation)... 04.18.10 # I'm trying to install rockbox on a 30 gig ipod video (5.5th generation)... 04.18.19 # Do I need to have the apple firmware on it to install rockbox? 04.18.19 Quit Dreamxtreme (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.19.35 # <[Saint]> not that I know of. 04.19.54 # <[Saint]> though, I have only ever removed the Apple OF *after* installing RB 04.21.51 Join Barahir_ [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590f5e8e.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.22.11 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@hrn634.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 04.23.41 # saint: the ipodpatcher program returned with "firmware partition doesn't contain apple copyright, aborting. 04.25.15 Quit Barahir (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 04.25.19 # <[Saint]> Hmmm, as I said, I've only removed the Apple OF after the fact. 04.25.58 # <[Saint]> I guess it makes perfect sense that it wouldn't work though...it's probably checking for some specific apple magic. 04.28.06 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.28.07 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.28.20 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.28.22 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.28.24 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.28.25 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.28.57 # <[Saint]> http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodPatcher#A_4_41_OSOS_contains_only_Rockbox <-- is the info for removing dual-boot ability, and having only rockbox in the OSOS 04.29.03 Quit perrikwp (Quit: Page closed) 04.29.23 Join Dreamxtreme [0] (~Dre@92.30.63.202) 04.29.46 # <[Saint]> after that you can remove the apple directories on the root of the player if you'd like, they won't return unless the OF is booted. 04.29.58 # <[Saint]> (which can't happen unless you revert it) 04.30.18 # does anyone know how to install the apple firmware with ipodpatcher? 04.30.52 # <[Saint]> you have an .ipsw file for your player? 04.31.48 Join DerPapst1 [0] (~Alexander@p5DE5A2F6.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.33.51 Quit DerPapst (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.42.10 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.46.07 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.59.16 # saint: yeah I have the .ipsw file 04.59.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.00.48 Quit DerPapst1 (Quit: Leaving.) 05.02.17 # unzip it, it's just a zipfile 05.02.32 # there's a file inside which is the actual firmware 05.02.41 # yeah |saint|: I have the .ipsw file 05.02.52 # You do nede to have the apple OF installed/working to install rockbox, though 05.02.58 # well, most of it 05.03.03 # You don't need the actual OF binary 05.03.06 # (the OSOS image) 05.03.12 # but you do need all the *other* stuff in the firmware partition 05.03.15 # and the partition layout itself 05.03.20 # So, restore in itunes first. 05.03.20 # um... 05.03.23 # <[Saint]> yes, as Torne said, open the .ipsw file with an archiver, and remove the file inside. 05.03.29 # it won't restore in itunes 05.03.34 # I've tried numerous times 05.03.35 # <[Saint]> then use ipodpatcher -wf 05.03.40 # Then the device is proably broken 05.03.47 # itunes is almost entirely reliable 05.04.00 # <[Saint]> yes....if iTunes won't restore it, she's probably dead. 05.04.18 # ipodpatcher can't do -wf unless the firmware partition is intact and has a header 05.04.28 # it doesn't know how to actually format the firmware partition. 05.04.37 # it can only backup/restore it as a raw blob the same as dd would 05.04.38 # its weird, as I can do disk mode, diagnostic mode, etc.. and even add as many files to the ipod as I want 05.04.52 # what does itunes actually do? 05.04.53 # <[Saint]> yeah, I was assuming that the OF was intact still but damaged somehow. 05.05.12 # Antonio_: you mean in the emergency disk mde, or can you actually boot the OF? 05.05.31 # emergency disk mode is the "ok to disconnect" right? 05.05.37 # whats of by the way? 05.05.40 # original firmware? 05.06.04 # emergency disk mode is the monochrome screen you get by holding menu+pla on poweron 05.06.10 # which displays "ok to disconnect" when not mounted. 05.06.19 # yeah 05.06.26 # as opposed to just plugging the ipod in while it's running the original firmware, whch is in colour 05.06.30 # though it does display similar warnings 05.06.50 # emergency disk mode, andd diagnostic mode, are both in the flash rom 05.06.56 # so they will work even if the hard disk is totally toast/corrupt 05.07.15 # if the hd is corrupt, I shouldn't be able to copy files to it, right? 05.07.15 # and emergency disk mode lets you access the disk even if the firmware partition is broken/nonexistent/whatever 05.07.35 # Er, no, it may be that the disk has a bad area where the firmware partition is 05.07.41 # you are copying files onto th edata partition 05.07.44 # anyway, it could be lots of things. 05.07.56 # the fact you can put files on it doesn't mean the hardwar is ok, anyway, is my point. 05.08.05 # and itunes is normally pretty good at restoring ipods from whatever condition 05.08.16 # has this ipodever worked? 05.09.27 Quit Rob2223 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05.09.47 # I did a quick check on the drive and it says that there are no errors with the disk 05.10.22 # that *also* doesn't prove the disk works 05.10.30 # you mean with chkdsk/similar? 05.10.34 # because that's only going to scan the data partition :) 05.10.38 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 05.10.40 Join evilnick_ [0] (~evilnick@ers107b.gotadsl.co.uk) 05.10.50 # the firmware is not stored in the partition you cna see in your OS 05.10.56 # it's stored in an invisible partition that your OS won't mount. 05.11.16 # <[Saint]> if the OF partition is toast, it's not going to tell you with chkdsk 05.11.48 # aanyway. what exactly does itunes do? 05.12.33 Join Antonio__ [0] (~chatzilla@cpe-66-91-117-118.hawaii.res.rr.com) 05.12.42 # damn...connection 05.12.54 Quit evilnick (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 05.13.59 Quit Antonio_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05.16.11 # I'm going to need some help on how to install rockbox... 05.16.18 # hopefully I can get the apple firmware on this ipod 05.16.44 # what exactly does itunes do when you try to restore the ipod? 05.17.01 # also, are you using windows/ 05.17.19 Join fdinel [0] (~Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 05.18.12 # using windows... 05.18.16 # reinstalling itunes 05.19.11 # ok, so while you do that, just to clarify, what you should be doing is booting the ipod into the black and white mergency disk mode, using select+play, then connecting it while itunes is running 05.19.23 # it should pop up saying "itunes has detected an ipod in recovery mode, do you want to restore this ipod" or similar 05.19.24 # yeah that much I know... 05.19.36 # sure, just making sure. 05.19.42 # did it do that? 05.19.47 # hold up... 05.19.52 # downloading itunes again... 05.19.56 # and reinstalling it 05.19.57 Quit Dreamxtreme (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.20.01 # i mean, lsat time you tried 05.20.12 # can't remember what happened... 05.20.23 # it acted like it was going to restore it, but it never did... 05.20.29 # just went back to the same old sad face thing 05.20.36 # ok, well, once youv'e reinstalled it, try again and tell me what happened 05.20.47 # if we can get to the bottom of why itunes it'snt working tha's the easiest way to get it going again 05.20.55 # God, Steve Jobs annoys me 05.21.01 # there is a harder way but you may need some command line skills and tools to do it 05.21.22 # dos or terminal? 05.21.33 # linux, ideally 05.21.42 # we don't have any docs on how to do it in windows :) 05.21.53 # it's possible, but i dunno that anyone has ever bothered 05.22.15 # i suggest we try to get itunes to work first 05.22.27 # god taking forever to download 05.22.47 # thank god I have win7 and ubuntu dual booted 05.23.24 # back in a few..waiting for it to download 05.23.33 # ok. 05.23.41 # are you reasonably comfortable with linuxcommand line stuff? 05.24.22 # not super comfortable, but I if you feed me lines I should be able to wing it 05.24.41 # are you talking about the instructions with the dd thing? 05.24.48 # for the mbr and the .ipsw file? 05.25.09 # yes 05.25.18 # from IpodManualRestore 05.25.22 # on the wiki. 05.26.00 # I remember there is one part that was tripping me up 05.26.23 # oh, ou tried that already? 05.26.31 # well. .since you're getting itunes now yo umight as well give that another go first 05.26.39 # but if we can't get anywhere i'll happily help you with the manual restore 05.26.50 # didn't do the whole thing... 05.26.50 # It was super late and my mind was kind of fuzzy 05.28.39 # ok itunes is installing 05.28.59 # so how is rockbox anyways? 05.30.11 # ok torne: itunes is up 05.30.27 # "detected an ipod in recovery mode" yada 05.31.45 # o, well, hit yes and see what happens 05.32.09 # no!!!! 05.32.11 # I just did that... 05.32.32 # steve jobs has just gotten my soul ;) 05.32.40 # been restored and is restarting 05.32.56 # still getting the sad face thing... 05.34.43 # OK, so itunes didn't display any errors or anything? 05.34.46 # iut just said it had finished? 05.34.58 # so I just got it back in disk mode and plugged it back in...still getting the "need to restore this ipod" 05.35.03 # ok. 05.35.21 # anything that can be done in windows or should I boot to linux? 05.35.46 # hm. well, there is one thing but you'll need dd to do it which is already gonna be there on linux 05.35.51 # i suggest you try the manual restore instructions 05.36.01 # so, boot linux :) 05.36.09 # I'll see you in a minute... 05.36.15 # gonna have some questions I'm sure of it ;) 05.36.23 # back in a minute 05.36.42 Quit Antonio__ (Remote host closed the connection) 05.38.23 Join mylisto [0] (~antonio@udp236780uds.hawaiiantel.net) 05.38.34 # hey torne: its me antonio 05.40.16 # o k:) 05.40.29 # well, start the pocess and ask me when you have a problem 05.40.42 Quit Horschti (Quit: Verlassend) 05.42.14 Join antonio__ [0] (~antonio@cpe-66-91-117-118.hawaii.res.rr.com) 05.42.16 # argh 05.42.20 # bad int connection 05.43.11 # torne: let me know when you're back around 05.43.40 Quit mylisto (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 05.44.47 # I'm always here 05.44.50 # ok :D 05.46.09 # so what do I need to do now? 05.48.16 # this: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodManualRestore 05.48.25 Quit fdinel (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 05.48.53 # if you have a problem with any of the steps, just ask 05.51.28 # ok for this line dd if=mbr-video30gb-2048.bin of=/dev/sdc1 05.51.43 # I'm not sure if I need to use sdc1 or sdc2 05.51.49 # Neither 05.51.56 # just sdc 05.52.00 # ah ok 05.52.02 # the mbr is the part with the partition table 05.52.06 # it goes at the start of the disk 05.52.41 # are you suare the 2048 byte sector version is right? 05.52.50 # jus checking because if not then this won't work 05.53.03 # yes its right... 05.53.13 # sudo hdparm -z /dev/sdc 05.53.13 # /dev/sdc: 05.53.13 # re-reading partition table 05.53.13 DBUG Enqueued KICK antonio__ 05.53.13 # BLKRRPART failed: Device or resource busy 05.53.34 # Your linux has one of the partitions mounted 05.53.36 # I'm sure I'm not supposed to get that error 05.53.37 # You need to not do that :) 05.53.38 # ah ok 05.53.38 # it's a scsi device 05.53.41 # isn't it? 05.53.41 # let me unmount it 05.54.08 # tmzt: yes. hdparm works on scsi device nodes, to a limited degree 05.54.21 # same ioctl then, ok 05.54.22 # tmzt: -z is just prodding the block device system to rescan the partition table, so that doesn't care what the disk really is 05.54.40 # it doesn't go to the actual controller, just the generic block layer 05.55.57 # dd if=iPod_25.1.3.ipsw of=/dev/sdc1 dd: opening `/dev/sdc1': Permission denied 05.56.40 # the previous ones succeeded? 05.56.56 # disconnect the device and replug it, then try again 05.57.17 # well. disconnect and replug, then unmount the data partition again 05.57.19 # then try again :) 05.58.14 # all of the steps, or just the last one that didn't work? 05.59.05 # just the last one 05.59.11 # it may not have reread the partition table properly 05.59.14 # reconnecting it forces the issue :) 05.59.30 # also try fdisk /dev/sdc; w 05.59.41 # it does the same thing but seems to work better 06.00.02 # still getting permission denied 06.00.50 # tmzt: if you've reconnected it the kernel can't be holding onto the old partition table. 06.00.54 # fdisk gave me unable to open /dev/sdc 06.01.06 # you need to run all of this as root 06.01.18 # which i suspect you aren't 06.01.24 # so sudo then 06.01.30 # hah 06.01.34 # yes.. none of these steps will work as a regular user 06.01.34 # ok copied ;) 06.01.43 # Torne: ah, but it might get a new device 06.01.53 # but yeah, he wasn't root 06.02.19 # now I need to format the 2nd partition right? 06.03.00 # torne: this is the part that really trips me up... 06.03.02 # mformat -S 2048 -M 2048 -F DRIVE_LETTER: 06.03.09 # I'm not sure what the drive letter is 06.03.20 # -i /dev/sdc :: 06.03.36 # stop 06.03.39 # the partition of course 06.03.43 # ? 06.03.46 # -i /dev/sdc2 :: 06.03.59 # does that tell me what the drive letter is? 06.04.10 # it's a trick, you don't need one 06.04.17 # the drive letter is :: 06.04.19 # use that instead of the drive letter. 06.04.31 # oh do you mean append that to the end of that line? 06.04.44 # to the end of this? 06.04.44 # mformat -S 2048 -M 2048 -F DRIVE_LETTER: 06.04.48 # mcopy -i my-image-file.bin ::file1 ::file2 . 06.05.22 # mformat -S 2048 -M 2048 -i /dev/sdc2 :: 06.05.30 # but it's not mentioned in the man page 06.06.44 # argsize must be less than 6 06.07.05 # I read something about that issue 06.09.09 # "mformat: Hidden (192780) does not match sectors (2048) 06.09.09 # " 06.09.30 # Hmm 06.10.25 # try mkfs.vfat -S 2048 -F 32 /dev/sdc2 06.10.39 # some people have reported that mkfs.vfat doesn't work right but it has worked fine for me in the past 06.10.43 # and it's less weird and magical than mformat 06.11.00 # permission denied 06.11.53 # run it as root 06.11.58 # absolutely everything here needs you to be root 06.12.03 # :D 06.12.12 # I thought I did...acidentally ran the mformat as root 06.12.16 # ok its done 06.12.39 # this is the output I recieved - mkfs.vfat 3.0.7 (24 Dec 2009) 06.12.44 # ok, also do sudo eject /dev/sdc 06.12.57 # then pull it out and the ipod shuld probably reboot on its own 06.13.02 # and will hopefully start the original firmware :) 06.13.17 # damnit! 06.13.20 # nope 06.15.13 # ok, so if everything above succeeded then that sounds like there's somethign wrong with the device, i'm afraid 06.15.24 # it might be recoverable if someon was sufficiently determined 06.15.34 # reboot it and enter diag mode 06.15.41 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 06.15.41 # * Torne finds his ipod to guide you through the menus :) 06.15.51 Quit t0rc (Quit: Give someone code, help them with one project. Teach someone to code, help them rule the world.) 06.16.27 # ok, hit manual test, then io, harddrive, hdsmartdata 06.16.49 # what does it say for reallocs and pending sectors? should be zero. 06.17.30 # think I did this yesterday... 06.17.33 # and it just hung 06.18.21 # just says smart data at the top and a blank screen 06.19.04 # it will take at least a few seconds, it has to spin the disk up 06.19.13 # if that hangs then your disk is broken 06.19.16 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng262.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 06.19.20 # 99.99% certain :0 06.19.35 # crap 06.19.47 # wonder how much a new hd is 06.19.49 # if it doesn't do anything by now then reset it, go back in, and try HD Info in the same menu 06.21.13 # does that also hang? 06.22.05 # hold up 06.22.47 # er, hdspecs even 06.23.01 # hm 06.23.06 # looks like that is hanging as well... 06.23.10 # wasn't yesterday 06.23.43 # um 06.23.47 # just says model number: 06.23.49 # with nothing after it 06.24.57 # OK, the disk is definately not behaving then 06.25.04 # i'm surprised you can access it at all in disk mode 06.25.17 # ok..., 06.25.17 # so yes, unfortuantely your disk is probably broken 06.25.34 # on the bright side, you can get a bigger one maybe :) 06.25.43 # model number I_ 7t hdsn: E)& K 06.25.52 # yeah htat's not good ;) 06.25.58 # ? 06.26.15 # sounds broken 06.26.15 # total lba 201326592 06.26.27 # total size: 96gb - thats definitely not right 06.26.45 # is there any kind of software utility to try to repair this drive? 06.28.29 # no. 06.28.41 # either the drive, or the cable, or the controller is broken, i'm afraid 06.28.48 # most likely the drive if the ipod previously worked 06.29.48 # well looks like I have a fricking 30 gig flash drive at least :D 06.30.31 # No, I would be very surprised if the player stored any files reliably 06.30.39 # i wouldn't recommend using it for anything :) 06.31.07 # <[Saint]> HDD also != Flash ;) 06.31.07 # its weird, as it actually holds files reliably 06.31.18 # ? 06.31.58 # No, that's not guaranteed :) 06.32.11 # it may not work equally well across the entire disk surface. 06.32.19 # and it may not work *deterministically* 06.32.27 # if it can't even get a valid ATA IDENTIFY response then the drive is toast. 06.32.31 # don't trust it. 06.32.55 # I ain't 06.32.58 # ah well... 06.33.06 # besides it ain't my ipod, just fixing it for a friend 06.33.09 # or was trying 06.36.19 # thanks 06.36.20 # night 06.36.21 Part antonio__ ("Leaving") 06.40.15 Join antil33t [0] (antil33t@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 06.50.31 Join timccc [0] (~timccc@112.166.15.141) 06.52.02 Join portlandlinux [0] (~portlandl@184-76-18-187.war.clearwire-wmx.net) 06.52.28 Part portlandlinux 06.59.15 # bmmp scrollbars in the lists will have an interesting difference to the built in ones.... 06.59.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.59.41 # Being? 06.59.47 # the slide bit wont resize for the list item count 07.00.01 # so if there is only a few items offscreen it might look like there are heaps missing 07.04.38 Join JdGordon1 [0] (~jonno@vl10.gw.ok-labs.com) 07.08.38 Quit Cowboy308 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 07.11.20 # JdGordon|: Why isn't that achievable? Couldn't you just truncate the image used, and tell people that "the image will be truncated if it needs to be smaller so use a pattern or something that can accept this"? 07.13.37 # we shall see..... 07.14.38 # <[Saint]> I don't see it as such a problem, personally. 07.19.50 Quit rasher (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 07.20.22 Join rasher [0] (~rasher@frotz.zork.net) 07.20.22 Quit rasher (Changing host) 07.20.22 Join rasher [0] (~rasher@rockbox/developer/rasher) 07.23.49 Quit Galois (Read error: Operation timed out) 07.24.10 # How about, some number of pixels from either end are always displayed, but the middle part is cropped-- just one bitmap but variable length...? 07.25.18 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54A3A70C.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.26.52 # <[Saint]> I don't see the problem in it being a fixed size. 07.27.12 # <[Saint]> it only needs to represent the position in the list quite approximately 07.27.39 # Buschel: Hello. Care to try a patch out? :> http://jhmikes.cleansoap.org/pp502x-usb-reset-on-disable.diff 07.27.58 # jhMikeS: hi, will check this now 07.28.00 # * jhMikeS was just suggesting a way around the issue 07.28.17 # last line was @[Saint] 07.31.45 # jhMikeS: do I need to test some read/write in USB mode? 07.32.12 # jhMikeS: the currents look fine so far 07.34.02 # jhMikeS: additionally it seems FS#10719 is fixed :) 07.34.02 # connect then disconnect should be all that's necessary, or whatever you did before 07.34.31 # haha, don't even know what that is :) 07.34.49 # battery leakage after one time USB connect ;) 07.34.55 # some init stuff... 07.35.41 # I looked at the reg values after full reset and after running. Reset and running leave it the same, but full sets it back. 07.36.35 # Buschel: thanks for testing 07.36.46 # thanks for fixing :) 07.38.27 Quit milk (Quit: baaaiiii) 07.41.08 # New commit by 03jethead71 (r29094): PP502x USB: It seems r29087 introduced additional parasitic current consumption after USB disconnect. So, reinitialize the controller just like at ... 07.45.14 # r29094 build result: All green 07.46.35 Quit mystica555 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.48.03 # * jhMikeS got beat to the FS close :P 07.48.12 # hehe 07.48.14 # ;) 07.48.41 Join mystica555 [0] (~Mike@m442636d0.tmodns.net) 07.48.58 Quit JdGordon1 (Quit: Lost terminal) 07.51.48 # need to go to work, bye 07.51.53 Quit Buschel (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203075014]) 07.53.59 Quit JdGordon| (Quit: leaving) 07.58.50 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 08.00.28 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 08.01.40 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 08.02.59 Join JdGord [0] (~jonno@58.104.46.177) 08.08.45 Join AndrewM [0] (~cb5a074f@giant.haxx.se) 08.10.26 # I am just install the latest version of Rockbox to my Ipod video 5.5gen 80gb. I would like to ask why ipod can control volume when using Lineout function. This issue is not happen in the Ipod Nano 2nd. 08.12.52 Join fml [0] (c391b46a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.145.180.106) 08.14.01 # [Saint]: (for the logs :-) if I remember correctly, scroll start delay is just the delay before the text begins to scroll. After that, there is no delay between scroll rounds. 08.14.23 Quit fml (Client Quit) 08.14.45 # <[Saint]> Hmmm, yes, have you tried messing with the bidir limit? 08.14.58 # <[Saint]> so that it bounces instead of scrolls through? 08.15.15 # <[Saint]> I find it easier to read that way, some people like the opposite 08.17.46 # I am wonder if rockbox has a lineout bug on Ipod video. 08.18.45 # Line out is at line level. 08.18.48 # That's not a bug. 08.18.56 # The hardware has no volume control on line out. 08.19.35 Part kkurbjun 08.20.33 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:7d0:0:f9af:215:c5ff:fe7e:794d) 08.21.19 # Is it means that I should set 0db on Ipod video and using lineout? 08.21.49 # It means that line out is at a fixed volume by definition 08.21.56 # line out is always 0dB 08.22.20 # use the volume control of whatever you have connected it to. 08.23.12 Join B4gder [0] (~danielx@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 08.23.13 Quit B4gder (Changing host) 08.23.13 Join B4gder [0] (~danielx@rockbox/developer/bagder) 08.23.31 # But I scroll the click wheel, I can distinguish the 0db and max. 6db difference through headphone amplifier 08.23.32 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@58.104.46.177) 08.23.37 Quit JdGordon| (Changing host) 08.23.37 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 08.23.51 Quit JdGord (Quit: Bye) 08.24.19 # i'm not sure what you mean 08.24.44 # the volume control controls the headphone output ont he DAC. 08.24.56 # the line output doesn't have one 08.26.58 # do I add a tag to see if the scrollbar is actually needed? or just draw nothing for the scrollbar tag if it isnt? 08.27.25 # Based on the offical firmware, If IPV is using lineout and connect to amplifer, the firmware is disable the volume control function.After I install rockbox in Ipod video, IPV can control the volume no matter it is phone out or line out. 08.28.36 # [Saint]: ^ 08.29.04 # When I using the IPV (rockbox installed) lineout function to connect amplifier, IPV can control the volume output in Lineout side. 08.29.33 # <[Saint]> JdGordon|: It'd need a conditional to see if it's needed, otherwise it would always allocate the space for it even if it wasn't drawn I'd assume. 08.29.35 # Oh, i misunderstood what you meant, sorry 08.29.57 # We have a much wider range of volume adjustment than the original firmware. It's done by altering the actual digital samples when the volume is turned down very low. 08.30.11 # to allow the volume to be adjusted outside the normal range of the DAC 08.30.26 # this applies to line out as well since it's bascially a DSP effect 08.30.52 # Oh, I would like to explain if I set -100db, 0db and 6db in IPV, it can control the output level through lineout. I can distinguish the level differences in lineout 08.30.53 # It should remain constant as long as you don't reduce the volume below -30 or so 08.31.11 # So, I've got this 30 gig gigabeat, rockboxed, and it's been pretty great so far, but I've also got this 120 gig drive I want to stuff in it. Problem seems to be that between my OS of choice (win7 x64) and the new drive using 4K sectors, the OF on the gigabeat doesn't play nice upon a reboot of the device when I do get rockbox on it. 08.31.13 # i forget what the lower limit is 08.31.34 # Anyone got some direction that I should go in? I'm a bit lost on where to restart now 08.31.37 # bluefoxx: does the drive correctly allow unaligned reads/writes? 08.31.49 # Torne: Drive is http://www.samsung.com/global/business/hdd/productmodel.do?group=&type=94&subtype=100&model_cd=409 08.31.53 # r is it one of the broken toshiba drives that insists on aligned accesses, contrary to the spec? 08.32.07 # the beast firmware doesn't check the sector size of the disk, it doesn't know about that stuff 08.32.22 # so as long as unaligned accesses work it shouldn't know/care. 08.32.42 Join Bagd3r [0] (~danielx@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 08.32.43 Quit B4gder (Remote host closed the connection) 08.32.54 # Doesn't seem to say if it insists on aligned writes 08.33.11 Quit Bagd3r (Changing host) 08.33.11 Join Bagd3r [0] (~danielx@rockbox/developer/bagder) 08.33.41 # it won't, no. 08.33.46 # because insisting on that is a *defect* :) 08.34.11 # the spec requires that you support unaligned reads at minimum, and strongly recommends that you support unaligned writes as well 08.34.17 # drives that don't have broken firmware. 08.34.25 # so it's not going to tell you on the spec sheet :) 08.35.09 # are you doing anything to the disk to prepare it? 08.35.20 # because the beast will not like virtually anything you try. 08.35.20 # I can't really 08.35.38 # it should be happy to partition and format the disk itself, then you should just be able to sendfirm a firmware 08.35.39 # My main problem currently seems to be that windows 7 doesn't play nice with the gigabeat if it has no drive to boot some kind of firmware that can say "Hey, I have a storage device" 08.35.54 # It doesn't need the drive to work 08.36.01 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08.36.07 # http://bluefoxx.selfip.net/img/scrn/gbs-sansdrvr.png 08.36.09 # If the beast detects *anything* it doesn't like about the current state of the drive it just blows the contents away and reinitialises it 08.36.20 # then waits for an MTP firmware download 08.36.23 # That's without the drive in the device 08.36.35 # Er, that's it without the drive while plugged into my machine 08.36.42 # Oh Thx, Torne. Furthermore, does rockbox built in Constant volume Function. For example, I want to keep the volume remains 0db. Like disable the function of volume control. 08.36.50 # It won't work without the drive in there at all, no 08.36.57 # how could it? 08.37.02 # the firmware is stored on the drive.. 08.37.25 # I get the exact same result with the new drive installed though 08.38.27 # what does the player do when you power it on? 08.39.02 # also, i don't know that windows *does8 have a driver for the beast when it's in firmware download mode.. 08.39.14 # you probably need to use/install the beast updater to get it 08.39.43 # Gives me the #1 triangle, then the #2 triangle when I plug it in 08.40.28 # right. so, did you try running the firmware recovery/update thing? 08.41.15 # iirc there is a list/statistik of all buildclients somewhere. Where can i find this? 08.41.54 # http://bluefoxx.selfip.net/img/scrn/beastupdater.png 08.43.12 # That is, somewhat obviously, with the device plugged in, and the updater failing to see it 08.45.05 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 08.46.26 # ok, i don't recall offhand how that's supposed to work.. 08.46.42 # try using sendfirm/beastpatcher to send nk.bin to the device. 08.46.53 # i think we don't need a driver installed 08.47.01 # as we just use libusb to poke the device directly 08.47.35 # Also fails. The only time it manages to succeed is when I have some other USB storage device plugged into my system, like a flash drive 08.47.53 # er, what? 08.47.59 # It was initially targeting an MMC card I keep memtest on, so it would say it had succeeded, when it hadn't 08.48.13 # beastpathcer doesn't use a drive letter 08.48.17 # MTP devices don't have drive letters. 08.48.29 # and are not USB storage devices at all 08.48.41 # so, there is no way it can think another device is the beast.. 08.48.48 # That may be, but this seems to be what's happening 08.48.54 # what did you run? 08.48.56 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 08.49.18 # no, that's not what's happening.. that's not possible :) 08.49.29 # http://bluefoxx.selfip.net/img/scrn/sendfirmmisfire.png 08.50.00 # First one was with my boot card unplugged, second one I plugged it in and that's where it wound up 08.50.10 # where what wound up? 08.50.15 # nk.bin 08.50.21 # sendfirm doesn't copy files 08.50.33 # files are not involved :) 08.51.29 # http://bluefoxx.selfip.net/img/scrn/bpatchwrongdev.png 08.52.51 # So if files aren't involved, what exactly are beastpatcher and sendfirm supposed to be doing? 08.53.21 # they send the contents of nk.bin as a special MTP transfer that makes the device treat it as an update 08.53.25 # MTP doesn't use files 08.53.55 # libmtp must be doing something particularly bizarre.. 08.54.05 # this doesn't happen for me :) 08.54.17 # it only sees devices that actually implement MTP. 08.54.25 # mass storage devices are a totally different device class 08.55.31 # Oh yuck. 08.55.37 # it's not libmtp on windows 08.55.46 # it's using ms's media abstraction thingy 08.56.00 # okay. 08.56.10 # use an OS where we aren't dependent on MS's drivers to work. 08.56.25 # Would a virtual machine do? 08.56.44 # Or cygwin, perhaps? 08.57.03 # Hang on, I appear to have uninstalled virtualbox :/ 08.57.12 # a VM will work if the VM program knows how to connect the usb device to the guest, yes 08.59.00 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.59.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.59.31 # alternatively try and find the driver.. 08.59.39 # but i have no idea where that's supposed to come from 08.59.43 Join Azazaz [0] (fuzzylomba@S0106485b3917092d.vs.shawcable.net) 08.59.44 # or if there is one for win64. 08.59.59 Quit bluefoxx (Disconnected by services) 09.00.01 Nick Azazaz is now known as bluefoxx (fuzzylomba@S0106485b3917092d.vs.shawcable.net) 09.00.23 # Missed everything past ender joining, sorry 09.00.53 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@87-206-240-131.dynamic.chello.pl) 09.01.25 # out of curiosity - what is 'ui viewport' setting in theme config file? 09.03.52 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 09.03.53 Join bluebroth3r [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 09.04.00 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 09.06.05 # mostly ignored 09.07.27 Join efyx [0] (~efyx@lap34-1-82-225-185-146.fbx.proxad.net) 09.07.58 # <[Saint]> erll...yes, it's more often than not set in the .sbs 09.08.10 # <[Saint]> but, in the lack of an .sbs it is set there. 09.08.21 # <[Saint]> s/erll/well/ 09.08.26 # <[Saint]> wodz: ^ 09.08.48 # <[Saint]> Do you understand the use of a UI viewport? 09.09.19 # You know, I think MTP support might be broken in this install I have 09.10.17 Join petur [0] (d408b802@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.11.31 # [Saint]: sorry I fail to parse() your statement 09.11.52 # <[Saint]> JdGordon|: The area that isn't UI viewport, or an .sbs viewport isn't being cleared properly when leaving the .wps 09.12.41 # <[Saint]> wodz: A UI viewport can be set in the .sbs, and it usually is...in the event that the theme has no .sbs and the author still wants to set a UI viewport, it can be set in the .cfg 09.13.16 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 09.14.13 # ok 09.16.08 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 09.18.05 # <[Saint]> RaaA doesn't have HOTKEY? 09.18.35 # * [Saint] can'r seem to imagine why this is the case. 09.18.40 # <[Saint]> *can't too. 09.19.27 # <[Saint]> it's not like you need multi-touch screens for a key combo....you can just do "hotkey" in a touch area. 09.20.13 # <[Saint]> kugel: (logs) - RaaAoA not having HOTKEY is weird. 09.22.30 Join Galois [0] (djao@efnet-math.org) 09.26.22 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@24.229.139.169.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) 09.26.44 # So I suppose it's safe to assume that little work has been done on the gigabeat S bootloader past what got it working to the point that it does then? IE we haven't figured out how to stop the thing from wiping itself when it sees funny changes on the disk 09.27.49 # I will say mine's never wiped itself, but I have mine set up with a dual boot install. 09.28.46 # Llorean: did you ever update the OF? that's been what generally causes the trouble. dual-boot is only *needed* w/ the update. :/ 09.29.13 # Llorean: Well I'm trying to upgrade the drive in mine, I can manage to get rockbox on it once, but if I reboot the thing it screams for a reinstall after wiping 09.29.27 # Unhelpful: I'm pretty sure I'm dual booting with 1.2 09.29.38 # I've had it actually ask for a reinstall twice. 09.29.48 # But rebooting it with a hard power off got it back to Rockbox. 09.30.07 # * Unhelpful would really like to ditch the OF and have the (much faster) single-boot :/ 09.30.21 # downgrade? :) 09.30.35 # * Llorean would like to ditch the flash bootloader, and have USB charging before the disk is spun up 09.30.50 # * jhMikeS too 09.31.02 # That is the one thing my F does better. 09.31.46 # What I was asking is if anyone has figured out how to make what I suppose effects to the thing's BIOS not bother checking to see that the firmware it's booting is sanctioned or what-have-you 09.31.51 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09.32.56 # I'd love to work on the ROM aspect, except my first mistake would be my last most likely (unless it can recover from a scrambled i2c rom somehow) 09.33.41 # Make an image of the chip's contents first, that way you can reflash them when you screw up? 09.34.04 # bluefoxx: I think he means he doesn't have the tools to reflash. 09.34.07 # no guarantee I can do it with the device alone 09.34.11 # Ah 09.34.32 # I'd be up for learning how to do it myself if I had the means to deal with the chips in question 09.34.52 # jhMikeS: If there's enough room, maybe something like the H100 dual boot, where there's *very* simple code to fall back to the inbuilt ROM on a button hold? 09.35.56 # Llorean: hmmm....sounds like something to consider 09.36.35 # jhMikeS: Then you just flash over the custom code but never, ever, ever touch the safety net again. Of course, the safety net has to work from the get go. 09.36.40 # there might be a way to recover because there is an inbuilt rom on the i.MX31 that seems to touch usb registers iirc 09.36.58 # Some sort of DFU or recovery mode? 09.37.15 Quit JdGordon| (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.37.46 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@58.104.46.177) 09.37.46 Quit JdGordon| (Changing host) 09.37.46 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 09.39.29 # Okay, have a fresh ubuntu install in a VM up and running, just need to find out how to turn all the automagical things it does off. 09.41.30 # Llorean: it's the real boot code that jumps to the flash 09.46.24 Quit evilnick_ (Quit: Leaving) 09.46.50 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-175-108.student.uu.se) 09.46.50 Quit n1s (Changing host) 09.46.50 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 09.46.54 Join n1s_ [0] (~n1s@nl118-175-108.student.uu.se) 09.47.45 Quit n1s (Client Quit) 09.47.46 Quit n1s_ (Client Quit) 09.48.05 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-175-108.student.uu.se) 09.48.05 Quit n1s (Changing host) 09.48.05 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 10.00.32 Quit JdGordon| (Quit: leaving) 10.06.27 Quit mystica555 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10.30.02 Quit factor (Read error: Operation timed out) 10.30.02 Quit AndrewM (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 10.36.35 Join factor [0] (~factor@75.108.68.114) 10.39.56 Join mystica555 [0] (~Mike@m4c2636d0.tmodns.net) 10.59.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.13.08 Join mudd1 [0] (~cmertes@2001:638:504:20e0:221:70ff:fe83:655e) 11.15.29 Join leavittx [0] (~leavittx@89.221.199.187) 11.16.09 # Okay, so I have a VM up, I have it able to see the gigabeat, now what do I want to be doing? 11.23.04 Quit wodz (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11.32.01 # bluefoxx: try sending a firmware to it with beastpatcher or sendfirem 11.32.05 # sendfirm 11.43.13 # Found sendfirm, how do I make it work here? I'm not familliar with working with raw source code 11.44.07 # I've successfully compiled something maybe all of twice in my life, and that was when it was all already zipped up for me and typing a couple commands was all I needed to do 11.45.27 Quit Galois (Read error: Operation timed out) 11.45.48 # it should be available for download somewhere i think, beastpatcher certainly is 11.46.00 # I managed to find beastpatcher, yeah 11.47.54 Nick Mic92|away is now known as Mic92 (~Mic92@84-23-68-181.blue.kundencontroller.de) 11.49.49 Join JdGord [0] (~jonno@114.75.102.160) 11.52.04 # jhMikeS: very nice that the firmware partition doesn't auto mount anymore :) will it work the same way in the bootloader if i build a new one? 11.56.51 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 11.57.11 Quit JdGord (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 11.58.51 Join vnl [0] (~slayer@cpc5-king10-2-0-cust73.perr.cable.virginmedia.com) 11.58.56 Part vnl 12.01.16 # Bagder, Zagor: any of you seen the logs this night with people wondering about some new wiki user names (and this BaseUserMapping thing)? 12.01.54 # * Bagd3r hasn't 12.03.43 # n1s: yes 12.04.09 # jhMikeS: cool, should we perhaps release a new bootloader? 12.04.49 # Bagd3r: maybe worth checking to see if there's a security issue 12.04.56 # maybe. I was thinking I'd clean up the display to do verbose properly and add the splash 12.05.05 # So I'm trying compile sendfirm.c so that I can actually use it 12.05.18 # jhMikeS: ok 12.05.21 # This is all the farther I've managed to get so far 12.05.24 # http://pastebin.com/Hzt6UqTg 12.05.39 # how does bootloader updating work btw, just drop nk.bin on the fw partition? 12.05.57 # bluefoxx: didn't beastpatcher work? 12.06.13 # n1s: No, it did not 12.06.28 # n1s: yeah, once you're in, it's that simple 12.06.46 # bluefoxx: ok, "libmtp.h: No such file or directory" means you need the libmtp headers 12.07.18 # jhMikeS: i'll try that then, have been meaning to go single boot anyway 12.07.19 # n1s: How do I get those? 12.07.59 # bluefoxx: this was ubuntu? sudo apt-get install libmtp-dev should do it 12.08.11 # I'll do that and try again, thanks 12.08.51 # ...Beastpatcher seems to have crashed the VM. 12.11.44 Join balintx_ [0] (~quassel@szerver1.gulyasp-koll.sulinet.hu) 12.12.11 Quit balintx (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12.13.41 # ah, firmware restore :) 12.15.47 # heh, gnome thinks it's a camera in mtp mode 12.18.00 # hmm, firmware restore again 12.21.01 # Right, so now after installing libmtp-dev, I get http://pastebin.com/LxnQL4A1 instead 12.21.37 # then you probably need to install the actual library :) 12.21.53 # just drop the "-dev" from the other command 12.22.18 Quit alexbobP (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 12.22.40 # Apparently it is installed already, either by default in 10.04 or having hitched a ride with -dev 12.23.14 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FFF2D93.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.24.42 # might be a version mismatch or something, sendfirm isn't maintained anymore i think, since beastpacher should be used 12.24.42 Quit vee (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 12.31.32 # hmm, my old dualboot nk.bin works so maybe i'm at that version where single boot doesn't :/ 12.32.05 # do the fix 12.32.20 # how? 12.32.54 # Does anybody have a copy of the original nk.bin file that does work? 12.32.59 # also that no backlight after usb hit again so it's not gone only hard to trigger :( 12.33.25 # see fs#9778 12.33.59 # bluefoxx: the one linked in the installation instructions should work 12.34.24 Join alexbobP [0] (~alex@ppp-70-253-76-181.dsl.austtx.swbell.net) 12.34.48 # n1s: You mean the one for windows, which can't make heads nor tails of the device sans-firmware? 12.35.11 Join teru [0] (~teru@KD059133111160.ppp.dion.ne.jp) 12.35.19 # Whenever I've run it, it's gone and sent nk.bin to an mmc card that sits in a cardreader as a memtest boot disc 12.35.42 # bluefoxx: ah, you used the updater included in the zip? 12.35.55 # n1s: See http://bluefoxx.selfip.net/img/scrn/gb/sendfirmmisfire.png 12.35.55 # the instructions tell you what to do with the zip 12.36.55 # (extract the nk.bin file and use it with beastpatcher) 12.37.06 # I'll try that then 12.37.22 Nick ved_ is now known as ved (ved@ddsbox.co.cc) 12.42.51 Join dfkt_ [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 12.43.15 Quit dfkt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.45.27 # jhMikeS: is there anything else i need to do to my freshly built bootloader nk.bin? i installed the OF from the repair_gigabeats.zip and then used beastpatcher to transfer my bootloader nk.bin and now it wants to restore again 12.45.57 Join Cowboy308 [0] (~Cowboy@99-112-133-156.lightspeed.milwwi.sbcglobal.net) 12.46.20 # not to my knowledge, you flashed it back to 1.1? 12.47.11 Join fml [0] (c391b46a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.145.180.106) 12.47.28 # do i actually need to run the updater or is transferring the 1.1 nk.bin enough? 12.47.40 # because that's what i did and it started fine 12.48.29 # think you need to run the updater. just dumping the nk.bin won't bring the flash revision back down. 12.48.32 # [Saint]: bidir limit only tells when to scroll in only one direction and when to bounce. Neither case case a pause in between (whether a new scroll round or before scrolling back in the bidir case). 12.49.12 # better follow that readme 12.49.18 # ah, so i need to go into windows then 12.50.30 # <[Saint]> fml: do you by chance have a synced version of FS#9356? 12.51.06 # meh, i'll stick with dualboot 12.55.21 Join user890104 [0] (~Venci@6bez10.info) 12.56.44 # lol...a few minutes of windows is worse than dual? 12.57.47 # mybe i'll do it if i reboot into windows later but i don't really use the beast since i messed up the hp jack on it 12.58.45 # * jhMikeS has two extra boards with shiny headphone jacks 12.59.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.02.27 # that's good if you ever break them, the beast hp jack isn't as flimsy as some (sansas) but IIRC it doesn't have any support apart from the solder points 13.03.16 # [Saint]: no, sorry 13.04.27 # <[Saint]> that's cool...I was just checking. I saw the post regarding it in the forums and checked it out, as I've increased the timeout for RaaA myself. 13.04.38 # <[Saint]> but I didn't make it configurable ;) 13.05.59 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~PurlingNa@113.92.7.248) 13.08.44 Quit GeekShadow (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13.09.47 # jhMikeS: do yu have any suspicions about what causes the problems with single boot after the update? except that it's in flash 13.10.15 # and where can i find the code that decides it needs a restore? ;) 13.11.22 # Hi, 13.11.24 # Is anyone know a patch to make Rockbox support 24band EQ? 13.11.28 # no, I don't know yet but it's in the eboot.bin I believe 13.11.37 # I always saw it, but never found. 13.11.55 # Well, after a minor amount of cussing, I've managed to get beastpatcher to cooperate and just finished tossing a ./rockbox folder onto the second partition 13.12.06 # jhMikeS: maybe i'll try poking around if i can find some motivation :) 13.12.21 # I seem to be able to consistantly boot the thing without it eating itself now 13.12.30 # But instead I get a file not found error 13.12.44 # Even though I'm quite and rather sure that there's a .rockbox folder there 13.13.25 # n1s: what's odd is that it seems to have a memory 13.13.47 # bluefoxx: now you need the .tar trick in the /Content/00/0b00 directory (make it if not there) 13.13.53 # pixelma, [Saint], kkurbjun: WikiUsers is automatically edited by the wiki software on registration. these are accounts where the registration process was terminated at some point. so they got an account and a line in WikiUsers but no user page was created. 13.14.00 Quit leavittx (Quit: Ухожу я от вас (xchat 2.4.5 или старше)) 13.14.07 # jhMikeS: Uhm? 13.14.29 # or dump rockbox.gigabeat in that directory 13.14.38 # <[Saint]> Zagor: Thanks, so they are "safe" to remove? 13.15.09 # [Saint]: yes, although I think I want to it myself so I can remove their htpasswd lines at the same time 13.15.43 # bluefoxx: it's /Content/0b00/00/, not what I typed before 13.15.50 # <[Saint]> yes, no...sorry for the confusion. I wasn't suggesting I'd do it myself. 13.15.57 # <[Saint]> Zagor: ^ 13.16.07 # jhMikeS: And I want to be moving or copying rockbox into there 13.16.13 # jhMikeS: how do you mean it has a memory? 13.16.30 # The disk seems to be working, but it's brilliantly sluggish as far as writes go 13.16.41 # n1s: afaiu it boots rb once then wants to restore after that 13.17.00 # jhMikeS: ah, yes it did that for me every time 13.17.43 # but that boot happens as soon as the mtp transfer completes automatically 13.18.04 # ah 13.18.22 # so it could be loading from two different places 13.18.53 # [Saint]: I wondered that we don't have an option for this since in all computers you can e.g. define how quickly you have to click the mouse to make it a double click. It depends very much on the person and makes you feel comfortable. 13.19.31 # n1s: so after the mtp, there's no reset, correct? (it's been so long I don't remember clearly) 13.19.51 # <[Saint]> I had a quick look at syncing the patch, but, most of it needs to be re-written...and I just don't have time right now. 13.19.59 # <[Saint]> fml: ^ 13.20.25 # jhMikeS: hard to say but it boots whatever was uploaded even if the subsequent boot will fail 13.21.06 # does it go back to the gigabeat splash? 13.21.30 # now i'm unsure, let me test 13.22.52 # yes it does 13.23.52 Nick Mic92 is now known as Mic92|away (~Mic92@84-23-68-181.blue.kundencontroller.de) 13.24.26 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 13.26.20 # [Saint]: first, we need to find out whether it's worth to do it. Nobody seemed to be interested in the feature at that time. 13.27.13 # jhMikeS: yes, it goes back to the gigabeat splash and you can hear the hd park and spin down 13.27.48 # Cool 13.28.11 # Rockbox boots on the thing now, and I can cycle the power without the firmware eating the disk's contents 13.28.26 # Write speeds however, are positively abysmal. 13.28.27 # bluefoxx: congratulations 13.28.33 # less than a meg per second :( 13.28.37 # ?? 13.28.42 # read speeds? 13.28.48 # Reads seem to be fine 13.29.56 Part PurlingNayuki 13.30.17 # Pehaps needing pio on write because of that drive bug? 13.31.25 # Sounds like it's running PIO0 or something 13.32.37 Quit fml () 13.33.29 # Averages a relatively flat 14 meg read 13.37.35 # http://bluefoxx.selfip.net/img/scrn/gb/dump01.png http://bluefoxx.selfip.net/img/scrn/gb/dump02.png 13.37.55 # Er, wait 13.38.36 # There, now those'll work 13.38.50 # Disk says it's in UDMA4 mode 13.40.33 # I'm wondering if ata.c is asking for too many sectors to DMA, the driver's limit is 256*512 atm 13.41.15 # if DMA setup fails for some reason, it uses PIO 13.42.49 # I tossed a couple of binary dumps into the /gb/ folder too, if those are any help at all 13.44.16 Join Galois [0] (djao@efnet-math.org) 13.45.32 # So how would I remedy this? 13.46.34 # a more cooperative drive :) for the moment anyway 13.46.49 # >.< 13.47.00 # I don't have another $90 to toss at another drive 13.47.57 # it probably should deal with target driver limitations (which can be increased a bit anyway) 13.48.14 # ...Meaning? 13.49.27 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~PurlingNa@113.92.7.248) 13.51.05 # it can't just do whatever lba48 can ask of it, it needs to break it up 13.52.18 # How hard would this be to fix? 13.53.52 # not that bad I'd think and it probably should be fixed 14.03.55 # I could make a patch and see if it fixes the problem (so it can dma the full memory size) 14.04.32 # or just make a build 14.05.24 Part LinusN 14.05.47 # Either of those would be nice. I'd be willing to try doing it myself, but as has been established, I lack an ability to code 14.06.01 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:7d0:0:f9af:215:c5ff:fe7e:794d) 14.11.18 # I post it after it finishes compiling 14.12.41 # * PurlingNayuki is tired with compiling again and again. 14.13.36 # http://jhmikes.cleansoap.org/rockbox.gigabeat 14.15.29 # How do I use this file? 14.17.13 # just overwrite the one in .rockbox 14.20.37 Quit user890104 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 14.21.11 # Seems it must be my disk :\ 14.21.42 # I'm averaging 600KB/s now, but when there's still ~110GB of space to fill 14.22.04 # Well I get an estimate of 6 hours for eleven and some gigs 14.22.35 # about the only thing left would be enabling the emulation layer :\ 14.25.14 # I presume there's documentation on this hiding someplace then? 14.25.58 Nick dfkt_ is now known as dfkt (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 14.26.25 # it's either part of the build or not, not an option 14.29.57 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@f049003095.adsl.alicedsl.de) 14.33.05 Quit Topy44 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.37.23 # New commit by 03teru (r29095): pong: make related variables a structure. Correct collision detecting. Disable turn off backlight. 14.40.37 # r29095 build result: 44 errors, 0 warnings (teru committed) 14.44.59 Join portlandlinux [0] (~portlandl@184-76-18-187.war.clearwire-wmx.net) 14.45.18 Part portlandlinux 14.47.08 Join Dreamxtreme [0] (~Dre@92.30.96.65) 14.55.57 Join komputes [0] (~komputes@ubuntu/member/komputes) 14.57.29 # errors of the last commit seems problem of a build client... 14.59.05 Quit Bagd3r (Remote host closed the connection) 14.59.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.01.06 # Stummi: somethings up with sdl on your "argon-stummi" (i assume it's yours) 15.01.21 # yes its mine 15.01.22 # moment 15.02.14 # according to log all seems to be ok 15.02.50 # i just stopped my buildclient 15.03.12 # the buils page has a lot of "configure didn't find sdl-config, which indicates that you 15.03.12 # don't have SDL (properly) installed. Please correct and 15.03.12 # re-run configure! " 15.03.38 Quit bluefoxx (Quit: ERROR:::UNCAUGHT EXCEPTION AT 0X0F023B29:::ATIKMPAG.SYS:::DESTROYING CLIENT:::ABORTING ALL PROCESSES) 15.03.57 Join bluefoxx [0] (fuzzylomba@S0106485b3917092d.vs.shawcable.net) 15.05.32 # ahw.. you are right. This wasn't in my path 15.15.42 Quit scorche (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 15.18.34 Join user890104 [0] (~Venci@6bez10.info) 15.23.17 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lem0n@151.62.174.3) 15.24.21 Join portlandlinux [0] (~portlandl@184-76-18-187.war.clearwire-wmx.net) 15.24.27 Quit portlandlinux (Client Quit) 15.27.03 # New commit by 03jethead71 (r29096): Fuze V2: Fix hold switch behavior. Add a GPIOx_PIN_MASK macro to AS3525. 15.28.38 Quit teru (Quit: Quit) 15.31.05 # r29096 build result: All green 15.40.07 Quit kevku (Remote host closed the connection) 15.41.31 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 15.45.43 Quit cjcopi (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 15.50.58 Quit PurlingNayuki (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.51.15 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~PurlingNa@113.92.7.248) 15.55.52 Quit CaptainKewl (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15.57.42 Join cjcopi [0] (~craig@adsl-76-241-66-141.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) 16.02.19 Join scorche` [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 16.03.26 Join slooopy [0] (~sloo@p5493CB96.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 16.07.40 Quit PurlingNayuki (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16.09.00 Quit GeekShadow (Read error: Operation timed out) 16.09.25 Quit scorche` (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16.10.56 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 16.26.10 Quit user890104 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 16.31.53 # Fuze v2 is considered stable or not (stupid question?) 16.38.29 Join scorche [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 16.39.29 # wiki says "Rockbox is stable on the Fuze v1 and v2." 16.43.05 Quit scorche (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16.49.16 Join toffe82 [0] (~chatzilla@maf.wirelesstcp.net) 16.58.37 Join dfkt_ [0] (~dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 16.59.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.00.28 Quit dfkt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.00.37 # Zagor: meh, why am I missing that? I read release stuff and just say "Fuze". It seemed ambiguous (to me anyway). 17.00.54 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 17.01.36 # I can agree with that 17.03.15 Quit dfkt_ (Ping timeout: 259 seconds) 17.06.17 Part Zagor 17.07.35 # Three hours and I've managed barely seven and some gigs onto the new drive. There must be a way to eke some more speed out of this, 600KB/s write can't be the upper limit for this drive 17.14.04 # jhMikeS: Rockbox never issues accesses bigger than 256 sectors, afaik 17.14.21 # jhMikeS: the ATA code supports it, but none of hte clients of the storage system actually try. 17.14.30 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 17.15.28 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: free(me)) 17.19.12 Join Kitr88 [0] (~Kitarist@BSN-143-111-196.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 17.20.32 # Torne: not in PIO mode but in DMA mode setup it just sends the size straight up 17.20.39 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 17.23.30 # Torne: ok, gotcha. splitting my concentration here between things :) 17.23.49 Quit Kitr88 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 17.23.53 Quit Kitar|st (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 17.29.27 Join Kitar|st [0] (~Kitarist@BSN-182-52-156.dial-up.dsl.siol.net) 17.30.16 Join user890104 [0] (~Venci@213.226.63.151) 17.31.21 Join user890104_ [0] (~Venci@213.226.63.151) 17.31.21 Quit user890104 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.35.32 Quit mudd1 (Remote host closed the connection) 17.35.45 Join sudela [0] (~Osman@chello062178214022.10.15.vie.surfer.at) 17.36.53 Join scorche` [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 17.38.40 Quit user890104_ (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 17.38.58 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 17.43.17 Quit scorche` (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 17.49.49 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/RockboxUtility#Known_issues <-- These lists of known issues seem likely to be out of date (referring to 1.2.6 and 1.2.3) 17.52.45 Join user890104 [0] (~Venci@6bez10.info) 17.53.31 Join scorche [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 17.55.52 # both seem likely to still exist but I don't know if they do (1.2.3 may only be an issue in some OSs, when I tried last year on an old MacOS (10.4.11) the voicing was completely unusable but it is quite some time ago and may be better on newer or other OSs) 17.58.58 Quit scorche (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 18.09.07 Quit krazykit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 18.11.28 # New commit by 03jethead71 (r29097): Fuze v2: Do button reading more efficiently by mapping button codes directly to the GPIO pin states where possible (all but 'home' and hold). This ... 18.15.04 Join Xerion [0] (~xerion@5419A4D7.cm-5-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) 18.15.51 # r29097 build result: All green 18.17.10 Quit petur (Quit: Page closed) 18.18.20 Join kkit|sh [0] (krazykit@silenceisdefeat.com) 18.21.33 Join krazykit [0] (~krazykit@207-229-161-95.c3-0.frg-bsr1.chi-frg.il.cable.rcn.com) 18.25.02 # * rasher fixed a bug in a theme and is unsure where to put it 18.25.17 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 18.31.40 Join mudd1 [0] (~cmertes@ip-78-94-216-65.unitymediagroup.de) 18.34.31 Join scorche` [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 18.40.50 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! 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They behave slightly different but unless too advanced features of Perls regexps are used (which shouldn't happen) I don't see much of a problem here. Might be necessary to do some replacement on them before running them through QRegExp. 21.08.59 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng262.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 21.12.03 # n1s: what do you think about the input file format? And all people familiar with Perl, does this look ok? http://pastebin.com/r46FD32r 21.12.25 Join donthaveaclue [0] (~Coty_Mose@173-16-103-41.client.mchsi.com) 21.14.06 # bluebroth3r: looks fine but isn't the / separator a little confusing? 21.15.32 # i mean since it's used both in the replacement expression and between the various fields 21.16.32 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:7d0:0:f9af:215:c5ff:fe7e:794d) 21.16.36 # no, I treat all fields separately :) 21.17.14 # so I have a search and a replacement field. The idea is to be able to use a different separator (I think I did that for one line to try it) 21.17.33 # so if a string happens to contain a / you can simply use something else. 21.17.53 # yes, i just meant that using the same separator char is a little harder to read 21.17.59 # hmm. 21.18.12 # not a big broblem though 21.18.49 # I was thinking about tab-separating the fields but thought using / is a bit more to what one is used when knowing regexps 21.19.01 # I'm missing syntax hilighting most :) 21.22.48 Part donthaveaclue 21.24.02 Join donthaveaclue [0] (~Coty_Mose@173-16-103-41.client.mchsi.com) 21.25.22 # hey kugel. Does the database play count stuff (most played / recently played tracks) stuff work on android? 21.26.23 # no idea 21.26.38 # but you need to enable "gather runtime data" for it to work at all 21.28.07 # If enabled it 21.28.15 # It worked for two (?) tracks 21.28.39 # If = I have ;) 21.28.59 # Ok, so this probably needs investigation... 21.29.11 # So far the sigaltstack is running very fine! 21.29.22 # Use it daily for several hours 21.29.39 # great 21.29.58 # did you investigate why the arm one doesn't work? 21.30.07 # Not yet 21.30.24 # does gcc use neon for ordinary code? 21.30.41 # no idea 21.30.45 # I wonder we need to save the fp registers in the context switch 21.31.03 # IIRC that was not the source of the issue 21.31.16 # it was "make dep" / reconfigure 21.31.28 # but we could try 21.31.57 # so the arm-asm threads work after make clean? 21.32.25 # No, it didn't work. 21.32.27 # Now I remember 21.32.33 # it was related to the increase of the stack size 21.32.53 # that's where I needed the "make dep" stuff after switching the thread implementations 21.33.22 # the arm-asm stuff didn't work for me 21.33.31 # the fp registers might be worth a try 21.34.02 # (as I had to enable neon support to get access to some arm assembler related commands) 21.34.57 # you could try building for armv6, it should work then 21.35.12 # and if it does it suggests some armv7 special case breaking it 21.35.26 # but iirc you tried saving r12 and it did work also? 21.36.32 # the r12 thing was bogus 21.36.45 # downgrading the arm version is a good idea 21.37.02 # I'll also steal the neon support from the gcc config 21.37.36 # did you play with pulseaudio in the meantime? 21.38.33 # Didn't have time yet. Currently planning a Japan vacation and this sucks up my free time. Hopefully this will be considered done by the weekend. 21.38.54 # First thing is to refactor the simcc() into maemocc() like you suggested 21.38.59 # no hurry :) 21.39.36 # Oh well, I really like to get this upstream :) 21.39.50 # Pandora port will be next ;) 21.40.11 # (which will also benefit from the pulseaudio changes) 21.50.42 Quit slooopy (Remote host closed the connection) 21.52.16 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: Bye ;)) 22.03.21 # kugel: ASSEMBLER_THREADS also segfaults in arm v5 mode and disabled neon support 22.03.36 # kugel: Always at the same place. Here's a backtrace: http://pastebin.com/Yvb8VjDe 22.03.55 # impossible :) that's the combination we use on android 22.04.08 # I know 22.04.38 # can you log the stack usage somehow? 22.05.07 # I'm willing to believe that my recent change put a bit more pressure on the stack 22.05.11 # I already increased the stack size to 0x40000 22.05.17 # It always crashes at the same place 22.05.35 # which is rather odd as the thread switches shouldn't be that reproducable 22.05.37 # does it recompile most of the c files when you change thread.h? 22.05.43 # I mean, it should crash in different places... 22.06.02 # I do a "make clean ; make dep ; make -j4" to be on the safe side 22.06.16 # I do = That's what I -did- 22.06.21 # is it always the same file? 22.06.25 # Yes 22.06.38 # the file could be the culprit 22.06.41 # I removed it and now it segfaults reproducable at another file 22.06.51 # let me remove the whole albume 22.07.12 # you can use .database_ignore 22.08.10 # now it's another file 22.08.49 # the last entry only shows ??(), I suspect that's a glibc call. is there a way to get debug symbols for it? 22.08.55 # one thing I noticed: It crashed around 31534 files and now it crashes after 32786 (not 32768) files 22.09.20 Quit sudela (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.09.20 # Hmm, I suspected the stack is corrupt and that's why it shows ??() 22.09.36 # the metadata parser don't yield() afaik 22.09.44 # The amount of files is pretty close to a full 16 bit value 22.10.15 # I've successfully scanned 1.3M files 22.11.50 # Are the registers on arm split like on x86, so you can have 2x 16 bit registers from a single 32bit register if you want? 22.11.57 Quit Zarggg (Quit: Zarggg) 22.12.22 # no 22.14.06 # I'll just try setting gcc's -mcpu switch to the "lower" CPU of the n8xx 22.15.24 # same difference 22.16.21 # too bad valgrind is not running properly (lacking some opcodes of the cortex-a8 cpu) 22.17.56 # can yo 22.18.09 # can you install libc6-dbg to see where it crashes? 22.18.35 # I think it's already installed, let me have a look 22.18.55 # Yep, already installed 22.19.22 # I just compared two backtraces from different mp3 files 22.19.45 # kugel, thomasjfox: have you seen FS#11881 ? 22.19.45 # Both crash with the same pointer: setid3v2title (fd=25, entry=0x1bceb8) 22.20.12 # the entry could be always the same 22.21.27 # I don't think the stack is corrupt, you enlarged it sufficiently I'd say 22.22.10 # did you try an #error if your stack size is really taken? (you see I'm beginning to get out of ideas) 22.22.12 # wodz: I guess the iriver h300 simulator uses another LCD_xyz define we didn't exclude for the "fast mode" and the LCD memory layout is not compatible 22.22.34 # kugel: I'll check it again. I'm running out of ideas, too... 22.23.41 # one could try to save everything in the context switch that setjmp() also saves. I can't manage to find the setjmp source file in the damned glibc sources though 22.25.11 Join fml [0] (~chatzilla@manz-590f0ae4.pool.mediaWays.net) 22.26.07 # * fml kindly asks for comments for FS#11892 (Add a delay between text scroll rounds when scrolling forward). If nobody objects I'll commit it in the next days. 22.26.17 Join gbl08ma [0] (~5d662872@giant.haxx.se) 22.26.39 # wodz: I think I found the source of the issue 22.26.56 Join diode [0] (~chatzilla@adsl-99-139-143-244.dsl.dytnoh.sbcglobal.net) 22.27.15 # where in source code do i change charge current sent to fuzeV2? 22.27.23 # wodz: The remote iriver h300 uses "LCD_REMOTE_PIXELFORMAT VERTICAL_PACKING" 22.28.00 Quit efyx (Quit: Quitte) 22.28.20 Quit donthaveaclue (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.32.22 Quit fml (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101206122310]) 22.33.00 # wodz, kugel: Fix for FS #11881: http://pastebin.com/HD9p0jJA 22.34.35 # isn't LCD_REMOTE_PIXELFORMAT always defined for targets with remote? 22.35.00 # Hi everyone. Lately, while reading the wiki, I've found some things I could easily update, mainly these things are outdated tables that don't include information for new devices. Also, I want to add some more information about the LUA interpreter that might be useful for people willing to develop for Rockbox in this language 22.35.21 # So, I'm asking for writing permission. My username on the wiki is GabrielMaia 22.35.50 # gbl08ma: One mo 22.36.08 # kugel: Yes. The fast blit mode doesn't support that, it's either VERTICAL_PACKED or VERTICAL_INTERLEAVED for remote LCDs 22.36.55 # LCD_REMOTE alone would be a better check I think 22.37.13 Quit GeekShadow (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 22.37.36 # Why does the wiki think every bloody change I make is suspicious? 22.37.42 # kugel: Is there such a thing? 22.37.48 # gbl08ma: OK, done - you should be able to edit stuff now 22.38.01 # thomasjfox, kugel HAVE_REMOTE_LCD 22.38.03 # HAVE_LCD_REMOTE (or HAVE_REMOTE_LCD) 22.38.18 # AlexP: Thanks 22.38.23 # AlexP: you know why :) 22.38.32 # gbl08ma: Did you already register and do what the confirmation email said? 22.38.36 # kugel: Thanks :) 22.38.39 # but seriously, it acts the same for me 22.39.09 # Ah well, it is just a little odd, but never mind 22.39.12 # that's why I didn't find it while grepping for HAVE_LCD_REMOTE ;) 22.39.41 # kugel: Ok, just change the check to HAVE_REMOTE_LCD 22.40.04 # AlexP: if the email would have been sent... i don't receive anything 22.40.29 # gbl08ma: Check spam etc., as you aren't showing as being registered at the moment I don't think 22.40.38 # gbl08ma: So it won't work until you complete that 22.41.09 # AlexP: btw, just after i sent the submission form, it showed the "suspicious" warning and confirmation, i clicked OK 22.41.26 # gbl08ma: yeah, it does that for me too, no idea why 22.42.26 # gbl08ma: Have a hunt around for the e-mail, if you haven't got it try prodding either Bagder or Zagor, one of them might be also to push it through 22.43.30 # AlexP: well, i'm not receiving any email, I'm going do something else and check back later. I entered the email of my site, which is my main email, and always worked with Rockbox things, I'm not sure why it doesn't work now. Perhaps it's just server slowdows. 22.43.52 # kugel: I verified with #error it takes my stack size. 22.43.55 # gbl08ma: Or wiki weirdness 22.45.36 # kugel: I'll finish the ASSEMBLER_THREADS tests for today. 22.45.46 # my email is under a afraid.org subdomain, g.ro.lt, perhaps that's preventing the wiki from sending the email. 22.47.31 # dunno, I'm not an admin. Let's see if it just got delayed before doing any poking 22.47.50 # thomasjfox: okay, that's unfortunate :) 22.48.01 Quit Horscht (Quit: Verlassend) 22.48.17 # kugel: You got something test (soonish)? 22.49.53 # copying set/loadjmp into load/store_context could be worth a try 22.49.53 Quit markun (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.49.55 # AlexP: I also got the "suspicious change please check again" lately when doing some small changes in the wiki 22.49.55 # AlexP: I got to go. Tomorrow or later today I'll check if I receive anything and if not, I'll come back here :) thanks for your help, editing the wiki is not urgent for me but it'd be nice if i could help. 22.50.14 # gbl08ma: cool :) 22.50.21 # pixelma: As long as it isn't just me :) 22.50.50 Quit gbl08ma (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 22.51.54 # maybe something became "overcautious" after the update. There also seem more and more reports about failed registration/activation mails 22.52.01 # kugel: Let's split this up: You prepare the patch and I brush my teeth. Sounds like team work, heh :o) 22.52.42 # http://sourceware.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/newlib/libc/machine/arm/setjmp.S?rev=1.5&content-type=text/plain&cvsroot=src <- newlib saves fp regs also 22.53.47 # I'll try 22.59.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.03.12 # newlib also saves ip, which IIRC is r12? 23.05.12 # newlib doesn't save fp regs, it's within #if 0 23.06.15 Join newClipUser [0] (~newClipUs@p54B30B8F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 23.06.24 # but uclibc does 23.06.35 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.11.01 Join markun [0] (~markun@rockbox/developer/markun) 23.12.26 Quit markun (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.13.09 Quit newClipUser (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 23.16.23 # hmm. 23.16.41 # kugel: I have to leave now, sorry 23.16.47 # no problem 23.16.58 Join newClipUser [0] (~newClipUs@p54B3065D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 23.17.12 # Would be nice if you could apply the fix for fs #11881, I've updated the patch on pastebin 23.18.18 Quit kevku (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.2 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) 23.18.39 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 23.21.51 # kugel: crap, updating the patch results in a new URL: http://pastebin.com/aexxF2aq is the correct one 23.22.26 # alright 23.22.42 # good night 23.22.47 # good night 23.23.00 Quit thomasjfox (Remote host closed the connection) 23.24.02 Join factor [0] (~factor@75.108.68.114) 23.26.10 Quit newClipUser (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 23.27.25 Quit domonoky (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 23.27.32 # New commit by 03kugel (r29098): Fix FS#11881. Patch by Thomas Jarosch 23.27.54 Join markun [0] (~markun@5ED33C2C.cm-7-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) 23.27.54 Quit markun (Changing host) 23.27.54 Join markun [0] (~markun@rockbox/developer/markun) 23.28.48 Quit T44 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.30.05 Join newClipUser [0] (~newClipUs@p54B30A42.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 23.33.10 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@f049003095.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.33.48 # perl gurus show up: FS#11893 23.34.16 # r29098 build result: All green 23.35.37 # wodz: why perl? :( 23.36.18 # If you want to rewrite it once more in other language - no problem :-) 23.36.19 Quit markun (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.36.36 Quit Topy44 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.36.55 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: free(me)) 23.36.58 Quit newClipUser (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 23.37.42 # if you re-write it completely any you could pick a sane language 23.37.55 # but that's just my opinion, people seem to like perl 23.38.11 Join newClipUser [0] (~newClipUs@p54B30A64.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 23.38.29 # hello people, I hooked up 3 AA alkaline batteries to power my sansa clip+ and it runs just fine 23.40.53 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@f049003095.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.41.46 Join markun [0] (~markun@5ED33C2C.cm-7-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) 23.41.47 Quit markun (Changing host) 23.41.47 Join markun [0] (~markun@rockbox/developer/markun) 23.43.35 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 23.55.43 Join GeekShad0w [0] (~Antoine@ree79-1-78-237-225-34.fbx.proxad.net) 23.55.54 Quit GeekShadow (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.56.13 Quit GeekShad0w (Client Quit) 23.56.27 Quit bertrik (Quit: :tiuQ) 23.58.00 Join Rasi [0] (~carnager@karif.server-speed.net) 23.58.02 # hi 23.58.09 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 23.58.11 # i have a strange thing with rockbox on my e260v2 23.58.16 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 23.58.37 # if i copy music to it, using the rockbox firmware, it happens that it powers off automatically and cannot be turned on again 23.58.37 Quit markun (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.58.51 # after like 20 minutes it works again, suddenly