--- Log for 21.01.111 Server: calvino.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 23 hours and 1 minute ago 00.00.35 Join mystica555_ [0] (~mike@m4c2636d0.tmodns.net) 00.00.36 Quit mystica555_ (Excess Flood) 00.01.06 Join mystica555_ [0] (~mike@m4c2636d0.tmodns.net) 00.02.52 Quit ender` (Quit: The other day Windows told me I might be a victim of software counterfeiting. Funny, I always thought I was a beneficiary.) 00.03.46 Join markun [0] (~markun@5ED33C2C.cm-7-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) 00.03.46 Quit markun (Changing host) 00.03.46 Join markun [0] (~markun@rockbox/developer/markun) 00.05.39 Quit komputes (Quit: I haven't slept for ten days, because that would be too long.) 00.06.58 Join vnl [0] (~slayer@cpc5-king10-2-0-cust73.perr.cable.virginmedia.com) 00.07.03 Part vnl 00.17.44 Quit kugel (Remote host closed the connection) 00.21.02 Quit Xerion (Quit: ) 00.21.15 Quit newClipUser (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 00.30.13 Quit mystica555_ (Read error: No route to host) 00.30.13 Quit mystica555 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.43.34 Join newClipUser [0] (~newClipUs@p54B30A64.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 00.43.56 Quit newClipUser (Client Quit) 00.49.09 Quit sasquatch (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 00.59.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.04.44 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@p4FF2D456.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.05.28 Quit soap (Quit: soap) 01.15.22 Join krazykit [0] (~krazykit@99-126-205-52.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) 01.33.20 Quit user890104 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 01.35.06 Part toffe82 01.38.15 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 01.38.42 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.53=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 01.55.19 # How can I get translated strings from within a plugin? 01.55.46 # #include "lang.h" gets me a linker error 01.56.29 Join CaptainKewl [0] (~jason@207-38-215-126.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 01.57.45 Join user890104 [0] (~Venci@6bez10.info) 02.00.05 Quit JdGordon| (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 02.00.56 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@123-243-140-31.static.tpgi.com.au) 02.00.56 Quit JdGordon| (Changing host) 02.00.56 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 02.04.51 # I'm going to go to sleep 02.05.01 # just highlight me if you think you can help me out 02.05.04 # I'll check the logs 02.05.13 # good night 02.09.48 Quit mudd1 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 02.24.06 Quit kkit|sh (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.27.35 Join soap [0] (~soap@cpe-76-181-78-156.columbus.res.rr.com) 02.27.35 Quit soap (Changing host) 02.27.35 Join soap [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 02.36.39 Join vee [0] (~vek@c-76-21-60-192.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 02.40.36 Quit froggyman (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 02.42.56 Quit user890104 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 02.43.14 # <[Saint]> Does your audio need to be in the sdcard/rockbox/ directory for the database init to find them on RaaAoA? 02.43.56 # <[Saint]> I wouldn't have thought so personally. But this seems to be the case. 02.44.44 Join guymann [0] (~charles@69.0.9.210) 02.49.44 # no 02.50.43 # <[Saint]> well...it's the only way I can get the DB to work on my Galaxy... :/ 02.51.28 # <[Saint]> kugel: (logs) Any suggestions? ^ 02.51.55 Join kadoban [0] (~kadoban@ip98-165-177-158.ph.ph.cox.net) 02.57.50 Join milk [0] (~milk@cpc1-sgyl9-0-0-cust268.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com) 02.57.52 Quit Guinness (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.59.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.03.11 Join Guinness [0] (Slayer@c-68-55-111-159.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 03.09.30 Join viv [0] (~slayer@cpc5-king10-2-0-cust73.perr.cable.virginmedia.com) 03.10.01 Part viv 03.12.36 # <[Saint]> yo, JdGordon|...what magic is involved in getting a particular target to use a larger bootsplash? 03.12.53 # <[Saint]> Do I just have to add it to SOURCES? 03.13.18 # <[Saint]> s/add it to/change it in/ 03.14.45 # dunno 03.16.35 # <[Saint]> hmmm...trial and error time I suppose. ;) 03.17.55 # it is probably just manginglg sources 03.23.43 # <[Saint]> I made a really nice bootsplash, but it's way too small. 03.25.02 Join GodEater_ [0] (~bibble@5ac9b8e4.bb.sky.com) 03.25.03 Quit GodEater_ (Changing host) 03.25.03 Join GodEater_ [0] (~bibble@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 03.27.14 Quit GodEater (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03.28.47 Join fdinel [0] (~Miranda@modemcable235.127-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 03.33.49 Quit JdGordon| (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03.34.21 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@123-243-140-31.static.tpgi.com.au) 03.34.21 Quit JdGordon| (Changing host) 03.34.21 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 03.52.35 Quit linuxguy3 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03.53.05 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 03.53.47 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng262.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 03.54.45 Join linuxguy3 [0] (~timj@adsl-76-203-0-159.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) 03.58.59 Quit Keripo (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 04.23.48 Quit Barahir_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.25.45 Join Barahir [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590f7b68.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.27.03 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.27.04 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.27.05 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.27.06 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.27.08 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.27.21 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.29.04 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng010.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 04.55.31 Join tchan1 [0] (~tchan@c-69-243-144-187.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 04.56.03 Join mystica555 [0] (~Mike@m4c2636d0.tmodns.net) 04.57.12 Join tchan2 [0] (~tchan@c-69-243-144-187.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 04.57.26 Quit tchan (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.59.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.00.14 Quit tchan1 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05.08.28 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05.23.55 Quit fdinel (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 05.35.09 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@24.229.139.169.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) 05.43.34 Quit bmbl (Quit: Verlassend) 06.06.24 Quit JdGordon| (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.11.50 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@123-243-140-31.static.tpgi.com.au) 06.11.51 Quit JdGordon| (Changing host) 06.11.51 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 06.28.11 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 06.46.07 Quit JdGordon| (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 06.47.51 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@123-243-140-31.static.tpgi.com.au) 06.47.51 Quit JdGordon| (Changing host) 06.47.51 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 06.52.55 Join Thopter [0] (~AbuMaia@208.123.144.34) 06.54.28 # Is it generally not possible in Rockbox to send a currently-playing song to a not-playing playlist? Say I'm playing through all my music on the player, and I come across a song I want to add to a different playlist. Is there a way to do that while playing, or do I have to stop playback and do it roundabout way? 06.56.43 # you dont have to stop [playback 06.59.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.02.34 # reading the manual, it says that if music is playing, then the selected song will be added to the current playlist. I figured that meant I had to stop playback to add to a new playlist 07.06.25 Join froggyman [0] (~seth@unaffiliated/froggyman) 07.07.02 Quit JdGordon| (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07.07.30 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 07.13.34 Quit Cowboy308 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 07.36.03 Join wat [0] (~wat@cpe-98-15-223-98.hvc.res.rr.com) 07.36.22 # Is it generally not possible in Rockbox to send a currently-playing song to a not-playing playlist? Say I'm playing through all my music on the player, and I come across a song I want to add to a different playlist. Is there a way to do that while playing, or do I have to stop playback and do it roundabout way? 07.37.02 # please don't just ask the same question over and over, especially when only two people have joined who weren't here the first time. 07.37.13 # wow 07.37.20 # if nobody knew half an hour ago, then nobody knows now, probably 07.37.25 # ask on the forums where it will get a wider audience 07.37.28 # way to overreact to a SECOND post 07.37.35 Quit Thopter (Quit: Sayonara) 07.38.02 # by "overreact" they mean "ask politely that you stop and suggest a better way to get an answer", i guess 07.40.49 Quit grndslm (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07.41.00 Quit wat (Quit: Leaving) 07.41.39 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 07.43.20 Join tchan1 [0] (~tchan@c-69-243-144-187.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 07.43.51 Quit tchan2 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.46.15 Quit tchan (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.47.34 Join tchan2 [0] (~tchan@c-69-243-144-187.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 07.47.44 Nick tchan2 is now known as tchan (~tchan@c-69-243-144-187.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 07.48.20 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@p4FE8FDC8.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.49.14 Quit tchan1 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.51.56 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote host closed the connection) 07.53.03 Quit tchan (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.58.59 Quit [Saint] (Disconnected by services) 07.59.01 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.105) 08.02.44 Quit Zarggg (Quit: Zarggg) 08.05.26 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 08.05.56 # New commit by 03jethead71 (r29099): Gigabeat S: Renovate bootloader a bit to show splash, implement verbose, shutdown on low battery, handle hold-switch-on and wait only so long for USB ... 08.09.58 # r29099 build result: All green 08.10.10 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 08.10.14 Quit tchan (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 08.10.57 Quit milk (Quit: baaaiiii) 08.11.24 Quit Keripo (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.12.35 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng010.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 08.18.23 Join efyx [0] (~efyx@lap34-1-82-225-185-146.fbx.proxad.net) 08.26.58 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 08.41.43 Quit amiconn (Remote host closed the connection) 08.41.43 Quit pixelma (Remote host closed the connection) 08.43.08 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 08.43.49 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-175-108.student.uu.se) 08.43.49 Quit n1s (Changing host) 08.43.49 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 08.44.00 Join amiconn [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 08.44.02 Join pixelma [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 08.46.03 Quit amiconn (Remote host closed the connection) 08.46.03 Quit pixelma (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.46.34 Join amiconn [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 08.46.36 Join pixelma [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 08.47.29 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.56.17 Join Bagd3r [0] (~danielx@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 08.59.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.00.19 Nick Bagd3r is now known as B4gder (~danielx@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 09.00.25 Quit B4gder (Changing host) 09.00.25 Join B4gder [0] (~danielx@rockbox/developer/bagder) 09.06.05 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 09.09.46 Quit amiconn (Remote host closed the connection) 09.09.46 Quit pixelma (Remote host closed the connection) 09.09.59 Join amiconn [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 09.10.01 Join pixelma [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 09.12.23 Join L-Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@168.16.236.192) 09.15.06 Join mystica555_ [0] (~mike@m4c2636d0.tmodns.net) 09.15.07 Quit mystica555_ (Excess Flood) 09.15.37 Join mystica555_ [0] (~mike@m4c2636d0.tmodns.net) 09.17.36 Quit mystica555_ (Read error: No route to host) 09.19.51 Quit JdGordon| (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09.22.15 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@dslb-088-068-017-149.pools.arcor-ip.net) 09.27.52 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:7d0:0:f9af:215:c5ff:fe7e:794d) 09.31.41 # New commit by 03jethead71 (r29100): WM8978: sound.c weirdness strikes again. 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I have just installed on my clip+ first thing I want to do is enable user ratings but I can't see how to do it in the manual. It states that you have to enable GATHER RUNTIME INFORMATION but it does not explain how to do this, does anyone know? 12.11.11 # there's a seperate option in the database settings you have to enable 12.12.30 # ok, i have searched though the documents but i can't find a tutorial or explination as to how to set this option. Is this a rockbox setting I can find on my player under the database section? 12.13.56 # http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-sansaclipplus/rockbox-buildch8.html#x11-1330008 and related may be a nice read 12.14.40 Quit kadoban (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12.14.54 # http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-sansaclipplus/rockbox-buildch4.html#x7-430004.2 for the database bit 12.15.08 # And yes, gather runtime data should be in the database menu 12.19.10 # i see it under setting, general settings, i am trying to set it now 12.20.33 # ok i now see an entry "Set Song Rating" in the context menu however when i select it i get " then it exits me back to the playing song 12.25.16 Quit vee (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 12.25.48 # also the icon for set song rating is a '?' this this correct for this function 12.26.03 Join teru0 [0] (~teru@KD059133111160.ppp.dion.ne.jp) 12.26.31 Join user890104 [0] (~Venci@6bez10.info) 12.27.25 # what does mean anyway, do i have to load my own menu here somehow? 12.28.48 Join chattr [0] (~mike@244.87.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com) 12.29.10 Quit teru (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 12.30.46 # does anyone here know about to enable the Set Song Ratings? 12.31.07 # Did you turn on gather runtime data? 12.31.18 # And do you have an initialised database? 12.31.41 # i found the setting and i selected yes 12.31.46 Join mudd1 [0] (~cmertes@2001:638:504:20e0:221:70ff:fe83:655e) 12.32.08 # do i select initialize now next? 12.32.54 # ok i have selected initialise now and it says updating in background 12.33.08 # will it notify me when it if finished? 12.34.30 # should do 12.34.35 # Or maybe not :) 12.34.41 # I never use the database so I'm not sure 12.35.05 # ok i will try it 12.35.24 # so that means you don't use the user rating right? 12.35.29 # yes 12.35.39 # I know what music I like :) 12.35.52 # And I have it nicely organised and use the file browser 12.36.46 # i like to load new music and discover new tracks that i like this way, do you know why the rating feature is not installed by default? I think in the origial firmware they had this function im not sure i installed rockbox right away but i think it was there it is a basic feature 12.39.00 # because the database needs to be enabled, which uses resources if you don't want it 12.39.06 # And lots of people don't want it 12.39.35 # And it is only a basic feature if you want it, I think it is a useless feature for instance 12.40.35 # interesting i love metadata, i build complex playlists with ratings, playcounts etc btw thanks for pointing me in the right direction 12.47.42 # no worries, I hope you get it going :) 12.48.46 Nick teru0 is now known as teru (~teru@KD059133111160.ppp.dion.ne.jp) 12.49.05 # it doesn't really notify you when it's finished when it's updating in the background but you should be able to see it in the statusbar - there's a symbol to the far right that displays disk access. 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The delay between rounds is settable. It's the double of the "Start scroll delay". 18.25.33 # double? 18.25.45 Join dway1 [0] (~Adium@cs181173042.pp.htv.fi) 18.26.03 # pixelma: yes, like it's always been 18.26.18 # hello, is it ok to ask for help here? 18.26.27 # fml: sorry, I didn't understand 18.26.37 # pixelma: it's the delay between two rounds. The delay before the first scrolling is just the setting. 18.26.43 # dway1: if it's Rockbox related then yes 18.27.14 # yes, it is. i'm trying to install rockbox on an 2th gen. ipod mini, using a Mac 18.27.37 # fml: so it reuses the current setting that was used for bidirectional scrolling? 18.28.21 # I have formatted my ipod to fat32, and now I'm trying to install rockbox 18.28.37 # pixelma: there was (and is) only one setting: scroll start delay. It was used when scrolling bidirectionally and is now also used when only scrolling forward. 18.28.54 # fml: aha, all I wanted to know 18.29.16 Join gbl08ma [0] (~5d662cac@giant.haxx.se) 18.29.33 # when i try to use rockbox utility, it tells me that bootloader is already installed. i say reinstall. then it says: Failed to read firmware directory 18.30.05 # my question is: Do I need to restore the apple firmware there, before using rockbox utility? 18.30.13 # If yes, how do I do that on a Mac? 18.30.24 # pixelma: I never use bidir scrolling and was annoyed by the fact that it's hard to catch the start of the text when it's only scrolling forward. There was a patch adding "+++" between two rounds, but what we have now is even nicer. 18.30.34 # (so that fat32 stays) 18.31.36 Part fml ("Back in a min") 18.32.46 # * pamaury made his gps/pda accept his custom wince image, now the question: is it running it ? 18.33.07 # dway1: yes, as far as I know, the Apple firmware needs to be in a working state. The easiest way to get a FAT formatted, working Ipod is an Itunes restore on a Windows PC but there is also a manual way but it's more complicated. There should be a page in our wiki, I believe it is called IpodManualRestore or similar 18.33.46 # fml (logs): yes, sounds more intuitive 18.33.59 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: free(me)) 18.37.39 # pixelma: all i can find is this: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodConversionToFAT32 18.37.44 # Hi everyone. Yesterday I registered on the wiki and asked for write permission. But the activation email didn't come. AlexP, are you there? Yesterday I talked with you... 18.37.47 # and it doesn't help with restoring the firmware 18.39.10 # ah, i now see the page you mentioned 18.39.25 # dway1: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodManualRestore (I don't have an Ipod myself though, maybe others are a better help - be a bit patient) 18.39.32 Quit GodEater_ (Remote host closed the connection) 18.42.08 Join kadoban [0] (~kadoban@ip98-165-177-158.ph.ph.cox.net) 18.44.09 Quit tchan1 (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.4) 18.44.21 # pixelma: thanks for your help. 18.44.56 Join GodEater [0] (~bibble@5ac9b8e4.bb.sky.com) 18.44.56 Quit GodEater (Changing host) 18.44.56 Join GodEater [0] (~bibble@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 18.46.14 Quit swilde (Remote host closed the connection) 18.49.19 Quit Cowboy308 (Quit: Leaving) 18.57.23 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (~3f74f70d@rockbox/staff/LambdaCalculus37) 19.00.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.06.14 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 19.06.16 Quit bmbl (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.11.21 Part dway1 19.11.29 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 19.11.29 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 19.11.29 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 19.16.07 Join captainkewllll [0] (2669ecc2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.38.105.236.194) 19.22.40 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 19.24.44 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-178-202-7-97.unitymediagroup.de) 19.29.25 Quit LambdaCalculus37 (Quit: CGI:IRC 0.5.9 (2006/06/06)) 19.30.51 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54B676B1.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.41.39 # Anyone there who can solve my wiki registration problem? I just don't get the email, and almost 24 hours have passed... 19.44.48 Join foolsh [0] (~62d4ecfb@giant.haxx.se) 19.46.02 Join vee [0] (~vek@c-76-21-60-192.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) 19.47.27 # gbl08ma: You need either Bagder or zagor 19.47.42 # gbl08ma: Hang around until one of them pops up :) 19.47.44 # I guess the safest way is to mail Zagor even though it may take a while 19.47.51 # yes, probably 19.48.08 # I can never remember which of them is more wiki ish :) 19.48.38 # AFAIK Zagor is in charge of it 19.54.47 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 19.55.47 Quit solexx_ (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 19.57.22 Join solexx [0] (~jrschulz@e176104232.adsl.alicedsl.de) 19.58.16 # and where can I find Zagor email address, or other reliable mean of "finding" him? 19.58.47 # FS#11898 I worked on this all night hope some one likes it plugin keymaps for the android port. but now im off to bed 19.59.48 Quit Dreamxtreme (Quit: +++ OK ATH OK) 20.04.23 # gbl08ma: bjorn at haxx.se IIRC (this channel is logged so I won't write it out completely) 20.13.43 # already sent an email. thank you. 20.14.46 Join Xerion [0] (~xerion@5419A4D7.cm-5-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) 20.20.34 Quit Buschel (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 20.25.52 # is it really needed to get an activation mail when registering for the wiki? 20.26.20 # I thought you only need to get added to the users list page with write permissions 20.26.40 # gbl08ma: are you also gbl08ma in the tracker? 20.28.29 # bluebroth3r: yes I am gbl08ma on the tracker and on the forums 20.29.01 # gbl08ma: can you still reproduce FS#11865? 20.31.04 # bluebroth3r: since I initialized the database, no. 20.31.17 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:7d0:0:f9af:215:c5ff:fe7e:794d) 20.31.46 # ok, then I'm going to close that as fixed. 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We've had people asking for specific modifications on the mailing list, but it's not clear if those were ignored or handled privately 20.54.20 Join dantje_ [0] (~dvg@HSI-KBW-091-089-103-221.hsi2.kabelbw.de) 20.57.53 # * domonoky really likes this theme sketch with postits and all.. someone should take this exact picture and create a theme out of it :-) 20.58.29 # similar to those pen&paper themes, a pen & post-its theme :-) 21.00.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.01.23 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@SEAS193.wlan.seas.upenn.edu) 21.02.29 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lem0n@151.62.138.206) 21.04.41 # domonoky: yeah... I'll just go for the easy one this time :) 21.06.25 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.06.31 # uuuuurrrrgrh....well, at least it's not a private mail. 21.06.56 Join factor [0] (~factor@75.108.68.114) 21.07.05 # I get quite a few "theme requests" (sometimes demands) in my inbox each month. 21.09.02 # how have you done it audio-i? 21.09.14 # have you used bitmaps for the numerals? 21.09.28 # New commit by 03kugel (r29105): FS#11828: Fix in core mod parser to blindly accept any .mod you throw at it. Based on MikMod. 21.12.42 # err, "to *not* blindy accept" :\ 21.13.06 # r29105 build result: All green 21.14.23 Join Strife89-L [0] (~Strife89@207.144.201.128) 21.16.42 # hi, still cannot register because of captcha ("invalid answer"). would be great if you take some action ;) 21.17.07 Join krazykit [0] (~krazykit@99-126-205-52.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) 21.19.10 # S_a_i_n_t: I haven't done it yet, but I think I'll just go for a big font. It will be needed for the menus also 21.20.23 # audio-i: It's a little bit of extra effort, but I'm pretty sure you'd be able to find a CC-BY-SA font in that style to convert to .fnt 21.21.06 # S_a_i_n_t:you mean hand writing? 21.21.18 # I was just thinking about it, and in that particular theme...it's the font that gives it the full effect. 21.22.54 # there's the font used for Pen&Paper and nerdSketch 320x240... I'll just have to choose "the most readable" 21.23.29 # Will you be including the "post-its"? 21.23.57 Quit esperegu (Remote host closed the connection) 21.24.14 # hahah... nope... I'll do something very simple, readable and configurable 21.30.18 Quit audio-i (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 21.31.12 Join Horschti [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 21.33.40 Quit linuxguy3 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 21.33.45 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@87-206-240-131.dynamic.chello.pl) 21.33.53 Quit evilnick_B (Quit: Page closed) 21.34.18 Quit Horscht (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.34.57 # today I faced weird behaviour on my nano2g - when I leave WPS and enter system->rockbox info and that came back to WPS album art is gone 21.35.11 # have anyone seen this before? 21.40.07 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@85.64.144.21.dynamic.barak-online.net) 21.41.24 Quit Strife89-L (Quit: BRB) 21.44.19 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust964.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 21.44.55 Join L-Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@207.144.201.128) 21.47.21 # wodz: which theme, can it be reproduced with cabbiev2? 21.47.51 # if so, which revision. 21.47.52 Quit markun (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.49.14 # cabbiev2 21.49.32 Quit kugel (Remote host closed the connection) 21.49.43 # r29031 21.50.17 # I checked again - it is reproducible 21.54.39 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 21.55.34 # and another bug - If I choose iLike which disables icons and than select cabbiev2 again the icons are not restored 21.57.16 # hmm in cabbiev2 it is harder to trigger but in cabbiev2 Blue it is 100% reproducible 21.59.04 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@2.208.169.11) 21.59.06 Quit kugel (Changing host) 21.59.06 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 22.03.06 Join markun [0] (~markun@5ED33C2C.cm-7-4a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) 22.03.07 Quit markun (Changing host) 22.03.07 Join markun [0] (~markun@rockbox/developer/markun) 22.06.54 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 22.10.05 Part toffe82 22.12.42 Quit gbl08ma (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 22.13.59 Quit kugel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.15.35 Quit webguest2 (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 22.18.36 # S_a_i_n_t: the problem I described is easily reproducible in sim with cabbiev2 Blue theme 22.19.58 # I guess then the cabbiev2 blue theme doesn't set icons (or doesn't reset it to "-") 22.20.44 # yeah...that's not really a bug...just an inconvenience. 22.21.00 # man...I'm not sure I could have spelt that worse. 22.22.31 # I was referring to missing albumart after leaving WPS and entering again 22.22.53 # Oh, right. 22.22.54 # perhaps cabbiev2 Blue is buggy 22.23.10 # basically...I only care if that happens in cabbie. 22.23.32 # any themes we don't ship can be as buggy as they want. 22.24.38 # overlapping viewports? Maybe not completely off but still ;) 22.24.44 Quit designate72 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 22.25.34 Nick Mic92|away is now known as Mic92 (~Mic92@84-23-68-181.blue.kundencontroller.de) 22.26.51 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54B66E35.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.34.55 # as FS#11865 has been closed. how do we proceed with FS#11746 and FS#11797 ? 22.36.17 # Buschel: as of FS#11746 - I couldn't reproduce on my CFed mini1g 22.39.16 # we could of course wait a few days and see whether we get some more response. if not, we should close it -- just my opinion. 22.39.25 # same of course for FS#11797 22.39.46 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng015.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 22.40.08 Quit user890104 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 22.41.28 Join rapid99 [0] (~Aaron@c-67-171-9-188.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 22.41.35 # can someone help me with a simple question? 22.42.06 # I'm trying to use the automated rockbox installation... do I need to format my iPod using FAT32 first? 22.43.47 # Any opinions about FS#11893 ? 22.45.40 # wodz: sorry, but I cannot really judge this :/ 22.47.18 # rapid99: at least I didn't do this when I installed rockbox. 22.47.24 # hmmmm 22.47.30 # do I need to have iTunesHelper running? 22.47.33 # cause I don't 22.48.15 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: Bye ;)) 22.48.58 # rapid99: I never used iTuner or the OF (except when starting it by accident). so, no 22.49.16 # ummm, the drive shows up in windows but windows asks me to format the drive 22.49.37 # but I don't think that's the right thing to do... however, trying to use the Rockbox Utility it says that the partition is not writable 22.49.55 # so what do I do to make it writable without formatting? 22.50.02 # rapid99: It needs to be a winpod 22.50.10 # huh? 22.50.23 # It needs to be an ipod initialised by itunes for windows, not mac 22.50.28 # it is the iPod classic 4th gen.. 22.50.32 # ohh 22.50.39 # There isn't a classic 4th gen 22.50.49 # Do you mean the 4th gen aka Color? 22.50.50 # so maybe I should get it initialized with my iTunes, then try using the Rockbox utility again? 22.50.52 # or Photo 22.50.55 # yeah the Color 22.51.13 # It needs to be a fat32 ipod, hfs+ from Mac isn't supported 22.51.17 # I just got this iPod and haven't used it with iTunes on this computer yet, so that's what I should do first ? 22.51.27 # ohh... 22.51.30 # yeah, restore it on windows itunes is the easiest way 22.51.37 # yeah ok 22.51.48 # so don't use the format feature in windows, let iTunes reformat it? 22.51.50 # cool sounds good 22.52.13 # yes, as it isn't just the filesystem, but also partition things 22.52.18 # ic ic 22.52.28 Join Galois [0] (djao@efnet-math.org) 22.52.32 # It is doable manually from linux, but if you have access to Windows itunes it is easier 22.52.58 # haha yep!!! iTunes says : "iTunes has detected a Macintosh-formatted iPod. You must...." 22.52.59 # WORD 22.53.02 # you guys rock 22.53.44 # +box! 22.54.22 # :D 22.54.49 # soap: you saw my question in FS#11830? 22.55.07 # * Buschel assumes his ipod's were pre-formatted then 23.00.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.03.15 Quit bluefoxx (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 23.04.44 Join gbl08ma [0] (~5d662cac@giant.haxx.se) 23.10.07 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@2.208.169.11) 23.10.09 Quit kugel (Changing host) 23.10.09 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 23.10.12 Quit kevku (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.2 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) 23.11.32 Nick Mic92 is now known as Mic92|away (~Mic92@84-23-68-181.blue.kundencontroller.de) 23.12.33 Quit froggyman (Quit: Ex-Chat) 23.16.15 Join mudd1 [0] (~cmertes@ip-78-94-216-65.unitymediagroup.de) 23.17.55 # kugel: I think it would be nice to state the revision of the premade apks on the android port page (if we want to keep them there at all) 23.18.21 Join Deas_nwz-A826 [0] (~51ec019d@giant.haxx.se) 23.18.29 # hello. 23.18.44 # welcome 23.19.47 # the text is pretty clear I think 23.19.54 # thank you, i just heard about rockbox, and i was wondering, what's the difference between a player without it and with it? i didn't see anything that really intreseted me on the site. 23.20.43 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/WhyRockbox 23.20.44 # kugel: does it hurt to put an "rXXXXX" in front of the download links instead of just saying "arbitrary SVN revision" 23.21.12 # kugel: would be nice to see how outdated they are before downloading them 23.21.17 Nick Deas_nwz-A826 is now known as Deas_SonyNWZ-A82 (~51ec019d@giant.haxx.se) 23.21.40 # ok cool @ wodz 23.23.17 # but, what if i was to build rockbox to my mp3? i havent seen that my device is "supported" 23.23.17 # Deas_SonyNWZ-A82: although the main WhyRockbox for most of the people on this channel is "because it is fun to hack" 23.23.35 # haha i see. 23.23.40 # Deas_SonyNWZ-A82: rockbox only runs on the devices for which it has been crafted to run on 23.24.10 # with loving care 23.25.28 # i want more features on my device, im too lazy to find a new device with bluetooth listing capability :[ 23.25.56 # Rockbox won't magically make hardware appear 23.26.07 # of course not. 23.27.00 # but features such as making playlist or even delete songs from the device directly doesnt exist on my device thought u can delete videos on it. 23.27.51 # yes, Rockbox can do that 23.28.02 # Deas_SonyNWZ-A82: would you mind, at least, say what device you talk about? 23.28.11 # see my nickname? 23.28.21 # But if you don't have a supported device, see http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/NewPort 23.28.48 # gbl08ma: I guess it is in his nick ;) 23.29.28 # what pixekna said ;} 23.29.41 # pixelma* 23.29.47 Quit L-Strife89 (Quit: Heading out) 23.31.50 # Deas_SonyNWZ-A82: sorry for that i see so many nicks on the net every day i stopped looking at theme. It's like my head automatically attributed a number ID to them and doesn't interpret the nick as a text :) 23.32.19 # Deas_SonyNWZ-A82: oh well. I see your device... from the menu screenshots, i'd say it'd allow things like deleting files... 23.32.48 # yeah, it looks like you can, but you cant. 23.32.57 # not songs atleast. 23.33.12 # or pictures. 23.33.19 # just videos.. <.< 23.33.55 # Deas_SonyNWZ-A82: anyways, if someone in the Rockbox community were interested in porting Rockbox to your device, either you wouldn't get bluetooth, or else it would be a lot of work to port rockbox since none of the supported players have bluetooth. 23.34.50 # Deas_SonyNWZ-A82: so, all the bluetooth code would have to be written from the scratch, to not talk about the drivers. 23.35.21 # yeah, i figured that too because its so rare for a mp3 player to have bluetooh .__. 23.36.04 Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.36.37 # Deas_SonyNWZ-A82: I would suggest you searched for communities dedicated to hacking your specific device or others similar to yours, but after a quick google search there doesn't seem to be much open source nor hacking community interest. 23.37.35 # Deas_SonyNWZ-A82: perhaps, one day when your device gets as older as the Archos models Rockbox is able to run on, it will be supported by Rockbox or any other alternative firmware. for now, there's nothing Rockbox can do for you. 23.38.24 # uhm, rockbox doesn't magically start to support devices when they get old... 23.38.39 # lol, what he said -^ 23.38.42 # Do we add anything other than binsize to archos these days? (serious question, not trying to be provocative) 23.39.40 Join robin0800_ [0] (~robin0800@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust964.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 23.42.18 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 23.42.24 # too bad that people get tired of these opensource project so fast.. i've seen it happen to several other projects, no updates for years, but they still hang around on irc x[ 23.42.39 # how does that apply here? 23.42.40 Join Alchimysta [0] (~97505a63@giant.haxx.se) 23.43.03 # Rockbox has an average ten or more updates per day 23.43.09 # Buschel, I haven't seen shit from IRC since we last talked realtime. 23.43.40 # My trip for next week to Virginia has been canceled, so after tonight I'm yours re:testing. 23.44.04 # gevaerts: of course. but there's a higher chance that older devices get supported, because they have been available for more time and there has been more time to do reverse-engineering. obviously, everything is relative, that's why i wrote a "perhaps" before anything i said. 23.44.22 # regarding bluetooth, it might not be exactly true: I have a GPS device with a SoC supported by rockbox and I nearly know how the run custom code. Furthermore, it has bluetooth, so one day we never know :D 23.44.59 # ok, see you in 10 years when i do not need this ? Dx 23.45.26 # My bad. I forgot about Rockbox as an appllication 23.45.28 Quit Alchimysta (Client Quit) 23.45.36 Nick Deas_SonyNWZ-A82 is now known as Deas (~51ec019d@giant.haxx.se) 23.46.06 # well, perhaps there is a way to port bluez, the linux bluetooth stack, I'm not sure bluetooth is that complicated 23.46.21 # Deas: it's a bit like that... and it's not ten years, but two or three. it depends... :) 23.46.21 # but what bluetooth would be useful for ? 23.46.45 # using bluetooth sound devices 23.46.55 # such as headphones or handfree 23.47.08 # gbl08ma: maybe for distant observers. For us, devices have a higher chance of getting supported if people actually *work* on them 23.47.10 # exactly... Rockbox as an application acts as a music player and recorder, why would it send/receive files by bluetooth? 23.47.11 Quit robin0800 (Remote host closed the connection) 23.47.11 # I see 23.47.11 Quit robin0800_ (Remote host closed the connection) 23.47.51 # gevaerts: yes, and how much time does it actually take before people actually *work* on them? 23.48.05 # depends on lots of things 23.48.10 # gbl08ma: There is no set time 23.48.12 # A few days, sometimes 23.48.22 # gbl08ma: It depends if someone with the skills that wants it turns up 23.48.22 # Or a few years 23.48.44 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 23.48.52 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust964.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 23.49.08 # The point is that telling people to come back in a year is about the most counterproductive thing you can do 23.49.50 # If you own a device and want rockbox on it, ideally you work on it yourself. If you can't do that for whatever reason, you try to convince other people who own the device to work on it. 23.49.51 # What is the shortest time difference between market entrance time and rockbox working on it ? 23.50.28 # it depends on how you count I guess 23.50.43 # we've done very fast ports when new variations have been introduced 23.50.44 # AlexP: well, some options and features are valid for all players 23.51.11 # ah yes, it's true that some devices only required minor modifications 23.52.05 # gevaerts: i didn't tell anyone to go away. i just said that it *might* take several years for a device to be supported. but it *might* not. it depends. 23.52.09 Join user890104 [0] (~Venci@6bez10.info) 23.52.34 # Yes, but it mainly depends on what the people *wanting* it do, not on anything else 23.54.02 Join robin0800_ [0] (~robin0800@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust964.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 23.55.35 # The problem is, most users that post on the forums saying "I want a port for device XXX" are people that won't work on it. and it *might* pass several years before someone says "I want it" AND works on it. 23.56.03 # That is true, but we can't do anything :) 23.56.08 # This is where the second option comes in 23.56.11 # yes, and it might not, and it may well be that someone turns up in x days 23.56.15 # Find other people who *can* do the work 23.56.22 # Or if you really really want it you do lots of learning :) 23.56.47 # You likely won't find those here, because people here likely won't care about your particular device 23.56.59 # but then it might takes years too :) 23.57.06 # I don't know of anyone which actually learned lots of things in order to port Rockbox... 23.57.27 # we've seen many here 23.58.26 # Of all levelsd 23.58.41 Quit mudd1 (Read error: Operation timed out) 23.58.53 # e.g. people who started off adding the odd patch to a custom build, and now are integral members of the team. 23.58.55 # Let me know, has any of the Rockbox ports come from people that have been paid to do that specific port? It's that I only know Rockbox for one year... and I only know it's past from the documents available on the wiki...