--- Log for 24.01.111 Server: calvino.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 3 days and 23 hours ago 00.01.41 Quit efyx (Remote host closed the connection) 00.02.58 Join markun [0] (~markun@rockbox/developer/markun) 00.11.38 Quit tchan (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.12.29 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 00.20.11 # gevaerts: Did you read my message from last night? 00.20.24 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.53=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 00.20.32 Quit tom__ (Remote host closed the connection) 00.20.58 # sideral: Yes. sd driver workings are seriously outside my area of expertise though 00.21.26 # gevaerts: I've now double checked. Turns out it was all false positives :) 00.21.44 # So the SD driver reads the correct data after all 00.21.59 # Ah, good 00.22.25 # back to the broken USB theory 00.27.46 Quit petur (Quit: here today, gone tomorrow) 00.34.11 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@2.209.169.175) 00.34.12 Quit kugel (Changing host) 00.34.12 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 00.40.37 # * amiconn found his short notes on ipod Photo LCD (type 0) from Aug 2008 :D 00.41.22 # kugel: ping 00.41.38 # amiconn: pong 00.41.50 # I have some problems wrt the android sdk 00.42.15 # First, installToolchain.sh doesn't seem to work properly 00.43.08 # It downloads and unpacks the sdk and ndk, but (1) the permissions of several components are wrong so they only work for the user who installed them (probably more a problem of the packages rather than the script) 00.43.42 # And (2) installing the platform(s) doesn't work. I had to do that manually, using the GUI 00.44.11 # Second, how do I select which platform to use, i.e. what android version the build will run on? 00.45.08 # Third, now that I installed platforms, 'make apk' does some steps, but then throws an error regarding "debug.keystore". What's this and how can I fix it? 00.48.05 # I don't know what installToolchain does 00.49.29 # we run on 1.5+, but you should select the latest api version 00.50.04 # Ah, it was added by mcuelenaere 00.50.46 # make apk should create a debug key (you need to sign apks) if it doesn't exist 00.51.08 # Zagor implemented that iirc 00.51.46 # That doesn't seem to owrk then 00.52.15 # Keytool-Fehler: java.io.FileNotFoundException: /home/jens/.android/debug.keystore (No such file or directory) 00.53.30 # Ah, mkdir ~/.android fixes that 00.54.00 # Weird that it does try to create the keystore, but fails if the dir is missing instead of just creating it as well 00.54.58 # pamaury, gevaerts: My newest theory regarding the Clip's USB corruption is that the bus-reset code is broken. I've now disabled the g_usbreset_count part from FS#11664 and hard-reset the driver each time a bus reset is requested. I'll run with this for a few days and see what happens. 00.55.27 # I got my debug key through eclipse, but android.make should have the required commands 00.57.13 # it should create the dir I guess 01.01.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.04.35 Join webguest26 [0] (~31f5fd36@giant.haxx.se) 01.06.51 # um, hello 01.06.52 # ? 01.07.54 Quit webguest26 (Client Quit) 01.09.31 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.11.37 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 01.17.32 Quit sideral (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 01.18.11 Quit stripwax (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.19.04 Join krabador [0] (~krabador@host248-230-dynamic.252-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 01.21.27 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 01.22.34 Quit mystica555 (Quit: Ekkusu Chatto) 01.24.46 Join peadar [0] (~peadar@89.100.98.139) 01.25.59 Quit peadar (Client Quit) 01.30.00 Join mystica555 [0] (~Mike@m492636d0.tmodns.net) 01.35.45 Quit Galois (Quit: Leaving) 01.36.40 Join Galois [0] (djao@efnet-math.org) 01.43.11 Join sinthetek [0] (~sinthetek@unaffiliated/sinthetek) 01.50.50 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@93.21.167.170) 01.50.50 Quit GeekShadow (Changing host) 01.50.50 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 02.03.44 # JdGordon|: I'm trying to figure out how to draw an image *behind* a progressbar, in the same viewport. 02.04.03 # or...even in a different viewport, as long as the progressbar ends up on top. 02.04.40 # (it needs to be conditional, otherwise I'd just draw it as part of the backdrop) 02.05.37 # we discussed this a while ago, the progressbar needs another option to specify a bmp to draw before drawing the actual bar 02.06.13 # I'm *damn* sure that doing %x() in the line before %pb) used to work. 02.06.27 # careful ;) 02.06.27 # I have code that achieved it before, but....it doesn't work anymore. 02.06.45 # I wrote the code for a reason ;) 02.06.54 # it apparently used to work... :P 02.07.04 # (whetehr it was meant to or not...) 02.08.18 # while we're on the topic of %x, is there *any* reason it needs an identifier? 02.08.56 # specifying an identifier for a non-conditional object seems weird, perhaps I missunderstand the purpose of it. 02.10.27 # you are correct 02.10.31 # it technically doesnt 02.10.35 # but the code is stupid 02.12.21 Quit robin0800 (Remote host closed the connection) 02.13.41 # %x is unlikely to work for bars which go backwards 02.13.54 Quit GeekShadow (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 02.14.05 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@168.16.236.192) 02.22.31 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.25.07 # JdGordon|: why would the bars orientation have anything to do with how %x works? 02.26.05 # %x is only drawn when the viewport becomes visible, so it will fully draw once, then as the bar empties (i.e volume going down) the image wont be redrawn as you would expect 02.27.15 # now, it dpends on what you actually want it to look like, but I am open to adding a "backdrop" image option to the bar tag 02.27.20 # it should be prety simple 02.27.57 # pixelma: from your post here: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,27055.msg177146.html#msg177146 what is the function of the "second magic colour"? 02.27.58 # (0-255-255 in hex RGB) 02.29.14 # I read it as "(0-255-255 in hex RGB) will always be replaced with the fg colour"...is this correct? 02.31.00 # yes 02.31.00 Join madalu [0] (~user@unaffiliated/madalu) 02.32.46 # JdGordon|: it shouldn't be necessary, should it? (backdrop field for bar tags). If %x or %xd is in the line prior to the progressbar/volumebar/bar in the same viewport, it should "just work". 02.32.55 # it confuses me as to why it doesn't. 02.33.10 # it will work if the bar only fills right or left 02.33.18 # it wont work for volume or meters 02.33.32 # and draw order could come into it normally also 02.33.55 # why wouldn't it work for volume? 02.35.07 # because unfilling the bar would cause the image to not get redrawn 02.35.57 # then it shouldn't work for progressbars either, as they don't necessarily always fill in one direction. 02.36.02 # (ffwd/rrwd) 02.36.14 # indeed 02.36.22 # but more often than not they only go in one direction 02.37.23 Quit krabador (Quit: Sto andando via) 02.47.31 Quit Mic92|away (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.48.54 Join Mic92|away [0] (~Mic92@84-23-68-181.blue.kundencontroller.de) 02.51.36 # bluebrother: didn't need to path anything in the ndk explicitely here 02.59.28 Quit madalu (Remote host closed the connection) 03.01.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.02.18 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 03.02.36 Quit designate72 (Quit: Leaving) 03.03.42 Quit Galois (Quit: Disconnecting) 03.04.57 Join Galois [0] (djao@efnet-math.org) 03.12.13 # any way to get rockbox back on the notification bar? 03.13.29 # if it's running...it should be there. 03.13.41 # turned up when i started playing something 03.14.23 # weird, the hardware back key didn't work before, but now that works too 03.14.37 # guess i'll have to test around more 03.14.50 # still no way to exit it? :> 03.15.14 # preglow: you don't need to. 03.15.25 # it uses like literally no CPU when idle 03.15.48 # assuming it now works properly without screwing up the sound 03.15.59 # which i guess i'll find out tomorrow 03.16.13 # but it needed shutting down from time to time with the last build 03.17.49 # JdGordon|: I've been doing some experimenting in the sim...and, it's bloody weird and I don't understand it. 03.18.14 # How can the progressbar allow the backdrop to display in the unfilled area, but not an image loaded behind it? 03.18.36 # I can find multiple examples of code that suggest it used to work this way. 03.24.38 # because the backdrop is redrawn when the transparent magic colour is drawn in the pb 03.25.43 # Hmmm...so it doesn't understand the concept of layers being in front/behind? 03.25.57 # there are no layers in rockbox 03.26.21 # I would have thought if an image was drawn behind the progressbar, it would display that as opposed to the backdrop. 03.28.16 # you'd have thought wrong then 03.28.52 # Occasionally I like to pretend that the skin code is sane... 03.29.06 # it is 03.29.14 # you are presuming too much of rockbox 03.29.23 # rockbox has no idea of z-ordering or layering 03.29.31 # not being able to do this one thing basically fucks my entire theme. it's really frustrating. 03.29.32 # it knows forground and background only 03.30.44 # a way around it would be conditional backdrops...but I can't do that either unless something's changed. :/ 03.33.05 # JdGordon|: another thing I can't understand is why http://pastebin.com/CLeuLciP results in the image being drawn overtop of the progressbar. 03.33.06 # you should be able to add the backdrop image option to the bars tag 03.33.24 Quit foolsh (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03.33.31 # because your idea of the draw order is wrong :) 03.33.35 # clarify? 03.33.58 # the prior, not the latter post. 03.34.12 # "you should be able to add the backdrop image option to the bars tag" <-- clarify please 03.34.28 # add an option to the bars tag which will draw the specified image before drawing the bar 03.34.52 # the transparent magic might still cause problems but it will be clsoe enough 03.35.03 # and then s/transparent/forground/ magic and you are all set 03.35.03 # by "you" you mean, "people in general"...right? ;) 03.35.09 # no, i mean you 03.35.12 # the code is simple :) 03.35.34 # * JdGordon| goes to get a code and his netbook while his pc compiles 03.35.40 # you and I have varying definitions of simple apparently. 03.40.25 # hehe rpbably 03.40.53 # ok, well %x really should draw in the corect order, but that broke themes which is why it was backed out 03.43.52 # mind you, you would still need to use %xd for this because it would need to be drawn every refresh, not just on first load 03.45.51 # I even toyed with the idea of using a backward filling progressbar (we can do that, right?) as the "background". 03.46.16 # so, when one filled, the other unfilled...but I think it'd only work nicely in my head. 03.46.24 # it wont work 03.46.30 # the bars clear unused area 03.46.44 # dammit! why is this one silly thing such a bastard? ;) 03.53.22 Join JdGordon1 [0] (~jonno@vl10.gw.ok-labs.com) 03.54.01 # S_a_i_n_t: try http://pastebin.com/g0s6z5p8 03.54.23 # use "backdrop, " in the params list 03.55.45 # can you give me an example of syntax please? 03.55.58 # I can't test it right now, but I can when I get homw tonight. 03.56.12 # *home too 03.56.18 # do you know how to use the "image" option on the bar? 03.58.33 Quit kugel (Remote host closed the connection) 03.58.34 # like, for progressbar, and volumebars? "%(X,X,X,X,.ext)" ? 03.58.58 Join enthdegree [0] (~enthdegre@cpe-024-211-171-023.nc.res.rr.com) 03.59.04 # how good is rockbox on the sansa clip? 03.59.20 # Strife89: Do you have a brighthand account? 03.59.39 # enthdegree: I do, actually ... 03.59.44 # enthdegree: Strife89 there. :) 04.00.12 # what! I knew I had seen the nick from somewhere. 04.02.15 # enthdegree, depending on your metric, "acceptable" to "excellent" 04.02.44 # if you like the OF, you'll probably think Rockbox is crap ;) 04.03.01 # but if you like the OF, we can't help you :P 04.03.50 # Well, my c250 finally bricked. I was in the middle of making a scientific graphing calculator for it and now I need another rockbox device to do it on 04.04.11 # enthdegree: Which Clip are you asking about, exactly? 04.04.15 # Clip Plus 04.04.41 # enthdegree, well, for graphing, you'd probably want something with a larger screen 04.04.43 # * Strife89 likes using Rockbox on the Clip+ - but USB isn't working yet, so one has to deal with the OF for now. =/ 04.05.08 # At least for putting music on it, I mean. 04.05.55 # Well, I am only getting it for developing so it should be fine. (c: 04.06.20 # still...you may as well get a target with a larger/nicer screen. 04.06.26 # you can develop on the sim too ;) 04.06.29 # Fuze for instance 04.06.55 # ofc. The clip seems to be the most screen-constrainted device though and I want it to be compatible 04.07.31 # there's are more screen constrained devices. 04.07.44 # charcell, for instance. 04.08.18 # well I cant imagine a graphing calculator would work well on a charcell 04.10.39 # but, yes. krazykit it quite right...you can develop inthe simulator too. 04.11.01 # well a ti-89 has only a few pixels more 04.14.59 # S_a_i_n_t: yes, so just add the two params "backdrop" and "" (no quotes of course) 04.15.36 # I really haven't followed the additiona params shananigans 04.15.43 # *additional 04.16.06 # an example string would be really nice, sorry, but I'd never figure it out otherwise. 04.16.14 # * Strife89 has been interested in seeing a TI-83/84 emulator. 04.17.05 # yeah I just checked, TI-84 has 96x62px + a big gui vs the clip's 128x66 04.19.59 Quit Guest94461 (Remote host closed the connection) 04.25.02 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.25.02 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.25.20 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.25.32 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.25.34 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.25.36 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.26.45 # Hey, for the record is the clip's 'grayscale' really as slow as it looks in this video: or does it actually flicker fast enough to look grey? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rVV_0xKmhw 04.31.21 # if you're wondering about Doom/etc. then it probably looks only slightly less crap in the video as it does in real life. 04.32.38 # lol. 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Teach someone to code, help them rule the world.) 05.59.34 Quit tchan (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.00.25 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 06.01.44 Quit tchan (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.02.38 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 06.08.08 Quit JdGordon| (Quit: leaving) 06.20.07 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 06.31.29 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 06.44.17 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Night!) 06.44.30 Quit panni_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07.01.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.02.32 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07.20.37 Join factor [0] (~factor@75.108.68.114) 07.21.02 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@124-171-44-96.dyn.iinet.net.au) 07.21.02 Quit JdGordon| (Changing host) 07.21.02 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 07.23.30 Quit simonrvn (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.27.32 Quit JdGordon| (Quit: Lost terminal) 07.28.03 Quit jfc (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07.28.33 Join jfc [0] (~john@dpc6682208002.direcpc.com) 07.32.17 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@124-171-44-96.dyn.iinet.net.au) 07.32.17 Quit JdGordon| (Changing host) 07.32.17 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 07.36.12 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@unaffiliated/sideral) 07.52.53 Join simonrvn [0] (simon@209.87-ppp.3menatwork.com) 07.59.27 Quit Guinness (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08.07.30 Join webby [0] (~4e497886@giant.haxx.se) 08.07.37 # Hello 08.07.47 # Hello 08.07.58 # if you have a question, just ask it. 08.08.12 # *a question about ROckbox 08.08.56 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54A39FA9.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.09.13 # S_a_i_n_t: is FS#11821 still happening? or was it fixed with r29081? 08.10.15 Quit CaptainKewl (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08.10.23 # Buschel: it does happen occasionally still, yes. 08.12.57 Quit webby (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 08.15.28 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote host closed the connection) 08.16.08 # S_a_i_n_t: ok, so I'll better keep it open 08.16.24 Quit Buschel (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203075014]) 08.21.00 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 08.26.00 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 08.28.43 Join Guinness [0] (Slayer@c-68-55-111-159.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 08.29.28 Join utanapischti [0] (~username@p4FF2CD57.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.30.35 # preglow: I've made a fix for that to configure after I discovered the issue. If you svn up'ed afterwards you don't need to path anything :) 08.31.24 Join peadar [0] (~peadar@62.40.32.24) 08.32.03 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 08.33.05 Quit sasquatch (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 08.41.49 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 08.41.50 Quit simonrvn (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08.43.37 Join simonrvn [0] (simon@70.35.162.34) 08.43.40 Quit peadar (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 08.50.16 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 08.52.41 # S_a_i_n_t: you get a chance to try that patch? 08.52.43 # Saint: Re FS#11821: Have you tried the patch I've attached to this tracker item? 08.53.18 # JdGordon: must be telepathy 08.54.02 Join B4gder [0] (~danielx@rockbox/developer/bagder) 08.54.30 # JdGordon|: not yet, no. 08.54.51 # I'm still quite lost on the syntax also. 08.55.28 # have you got a background bmp to go with a bar you want to use? 08.55.39 # I'd like to test, clean up and commit it i tinhk 08.56.12 # I do indeed. 09.00.17 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 09.00.47 # S_a_i_n_t: so nu? link me up :D 09.01.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.02.32 Join efyx [0] (~efyx@lap34-1-82-225-185-146.fbx.proxad.net) 09.05.46 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 09.05.48 Join bluebroth3r [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 09.10.35 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 09.11.06 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.14.56 # JdGordon|: http://www.datafilehost.com/download-a4a83ac4.html <--- snapshot of current theme code 09.15.07 # errr..and images 09.18.01 # I've commented out the lines that try to load an image in the progressbar viewports, my themes are always pretty well commented so you should have no trouble finding the code. 09.21.57 Quit sideral (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 09.39.51 # got it :) 09.43.17 # I'm not so fond of the added option though 09.43.21 # but meh 09.43.28 # %x isnt working so this will have to do 09.43.34 # as i tihnk it is more flexible also 09.46.55 Join einhirn [0] (Miranda@vpn10.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.57.30 Quit einhirn (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 09.58.10 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 10.04.32 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r29127): New option for the bar tags: 'backdrop,