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FS#11880 -- I forgot to set task type = patch and category = build environment. 15.32.04 # Or better yet, just commit the patch? 15.32.08 Join Kohlrabi [0] (~kohlrabi@kohlio.de) 15.33.26 Part Mic92 ("It's me, Mic92") 15.34.53 Join feisar- [0] (jljhook@irkki.fi) 15.36.16 # sideral: metadata updated, don't know enough to commit though 15.36.58 Join designate72 [0] (~aaron@adsl-065-013-002-216.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 15.37.22 # thanks jhMikeS! 15.43.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.43.17 Quit evilnick_B (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 15.44.55 Join t0rc [0] (~t0rc@unaffiliated/t0rc/x-5233201) 15.48.53 Quit CaptainKewl (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 15.49.21 Join evilnick_B [0] (0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 15.56.12 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 16.04.46 Part LinusN 16.11.44 Join froggymana [0] (~43343972@giant.haxx.se) 16.12.12 Quit froggymana (Changing host) 16.12.12 Join froggymana [0] (~43343972@unaffiliated/froggyman) 16.36.47 Join Toastbread [0] (~Toastman@p5B135FBD.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.36.51 # hi 16.38.33 # 2any devs in here? 16.38.37 # -2 16.39.15 # do you have a question? 16.39.52 # no 16.39.55 # not really 16.40.49 Join GodEater_ [0] (~bibble@5ada16d7.bb.sky.com) 16.40.50 Quit GodEater_ (Changing host) 16.40.50 Join GodEater_ [0] (~bibble@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 16.41.06 # I just wanted to ask if somebody has the time and the delight to develop a new rockbox port 16.41.38 # for the intenso video cruiser in particular 16.41.53 # Some people do have the time to develop a new port, but they usually pick players *they* like 16.42.39 # The vast majority of ports has been done by people who own the device and want rockbox on it (in that order) 16.42.41 Quit GodEater (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 16.43.32 # yeah 16.43.37 # guessed that 16.44.22 # hopefully someone will do it for my player :D 16.44.27 Quit t0rc (Quit: Give someone code, help them with one project. Teach someone to code, help them rule the world.) 16.46.34 # If you can't do it yourself, your best option is probably to find other owners of the device (maybe there's a forum dedicated to it somewhere?), and hope that one of them can do it. Asking here isn't a crime of course, but you'll probably find that all active developers already have pretty long todo lists and don't really want to add a port to a device they don't already own to it 16.47.18 # I can understand that. 16.47.30 # Let's seek a forum! 16.48.01 # (this way was just quicker, I could've had luck with asking) 16.48.51 # You may want to have a look at http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/NewPort to have some sort of idea of what's usually required 16.49.00 # ty 16.50.45 # :O I definatly won't cut open my new bought player 16.51.42 # Quite often there are some screws, or some clips that allow to do this without destroying anything :) 16.51.57 # nah, not this one 16.52.05 # it's like an ipod 16.52.38 # most of which could be opened with what, a guitar pick? 16.52.39 # shiny back, glued hard onto its surface 16.54.29 # there is some little hole on the side, the size of a toothpick approx... 16.54.33 # brb 16.55.20 # tr 16.55.22 # *re 16.57.24 # hmm 16.57.28 # it won't open D: 16.59.15 Quit GeekShadow (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.59.24 Join GeekShad0w [0] (~Antoine@ree79-1-78-237-225-34.fbx.proxad.net) 17.01.57 Quit Judas_PhD (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 17.02.19 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@e178058036.adsl.alicedsl.de) 17.02.19 Quit kugel (Changing host) 17.02.19 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 17.04.36 # sideral: does that patch mean we get something like r29000M-21fd21 (or even longer)? 17.07.45 # kugel: more like r29000-21fd21M :) but not longer 17.08.09 Join CatpainKewl [0] (2669ecc2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.38.105.236.194) 17.09.06 # if you don't have local commits (plain SVN checkout), it's just r29000. if you don't have uncommitted modifications, there's no "M". 17.10.11 # I found this info to be quite helpful when I juggled multiple branches during debugging. 17.12.31 Part Zagor 17.14.06 Quit n1s (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 17.14.45 Quit krazykit (Quit: bbl) 17.17.05 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@145.116.15.244) 17.17.23 # sideral: IIRC you're not the first with that idea but most of us didn't like it back then 17.18.04 # it has already been implemented for bzr-tracked repos. this patch does the same thing for git 17.18.18 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.18.34 # I think only one guy uses bzt, so he's lucky nobody noticed it so far :) 17.19.11 # I don't feel strong though, as long as it shows that modifications happened I don't care in which way 17.19.52 # an alternative would be a hook in the script which would allow a developer to set his own version string, but this seems more uniform 17.20.25 # FS#9758 17.20.33 Quit froggymana (Quit: CGI:IRC) 17.23.37 # kugel: thanks for the pointer. As the git ID would only ever be seen by a developer with local git commits, I don't see how this could confuse users. 17.27.42 Quit tchan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.4) 17.29.18 # * sideral needs to leave in 5 min Anyway, thanks for the feedback, kugel! 17.29.28 # you're welcome 17.33.03 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Reboot, maybe it'll cooperate.) 17.33.57 # maybe I should ask that bzr guy to commit this for me *cough*Torne*cough 17.35.56 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@168.16.226.109) 17.43.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.43.29 Quit sideral (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.49.43 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-175-108.student.uu.se) 17.49.43 Quit n1s (Changing host) 17.49.43 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 17.51.48 Join {phoenix} [0] (~dirk@p57AA75AC.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.52.48 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 17.53.47 Join Guinness` [0] (Slayer@c-68-55-111-159.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 17.53.48 Join yelped [0] (~b8c93388@giant.haxx.se) 17.54.14 Quit yelped (Client Quit) 17.54.46 Quit petur (Quit: Page closed) 17.55.35 Quit Guinness (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.55.36 Join yelped [0] (~b8c93388@giant.haxx.se) 18.01.02 Quit yelped (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 18.02.42 Join quem_ [0] (~foo@c83-254-241-109.bredband.comhem.se) 18.02.42 Join moos [0] (moos@85-171-90-254.rev.numericable.fr) 18.02.42 Quit moos (Changing host) 18.02.42 Join moos [0] (moos@rockbox/staff/moos) 18.03.19 Join yelped [0] (~b8c93388@giant.haxx.se) 18.03.47 Quit yelped (Client Quit) 18.04.46 Quit quem (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 18.04.53 Nick quem_ is now known as quem (~foo@c83-254-241-109.bredband.comhem.se) 18.05.23 Join yelped [0] (~b8c93388@giant.haxx.se) 18.10.19 Quit yelped (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 18.11.05 Join yelped [0] (~b8c93388@giant.haxx.se) 18.14.42 Quit yelped (Client Quit) 18.18.23 # New commit by 03jethead71 (r29135): MPEGPlayer: Account for drivers that pass pointers to their internal state variables to the audio callback. 18.21.00 # New commit by 03moos (r29136): Update the chinese-simp translation. ... 18.22.00 # r29135 build result: All green 18.22.26 Quit n1s (Read error: Connection timed out) 18.22.45 # New commit by 03moos (r29137): Update the russian translation. ... 18.22.54 Quit designate72 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18.22.54 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 18.25.28 # r29136 build result: All green 18.26.53 # moos: (didn't check) - are the two in CREDITS yet? 18.28.11 # I did check since I don't have the habbit to blind commit, they are :) 18.28.48 # r29137 build result: All green 18.29.14 # ok :) 18.30.29 Quit robin0800 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.35.29 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 18.35.44 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 18.37.19 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust964.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 18.40.04 Join kadoban [0] (~kadoban@ip98-165-177-158.ph.ph.cox.net) 18.40.14 Quit swilde (Remote host closed the connection) 18.40.23 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (~3f74f70d@rockbox/staff/LambdaCalculus37) 18.41.09 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 18.41.26 Quit tchan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5-dev) 18.42.22 Quit mrkiko (Quit: leaving) 18.45.10 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 18.48.22 Join designate72 [0] (~aaron@adsl-065-013-002-216.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) 18.49.46 # jhMikeS: Ping 18.53.22 Quit TheSeven (Remote host closed the connection) 18.55.28 Quit Toastbread (Quit: leaving) 18.56.37 # jhMikeS: (for the logs) now that we have Bootloader USB mode for PP targets, which makes the install process on the SA9200 much, much easier, do you think we should roll a v1.0 bootloader for it and get it pushed to Unstable? 18.56.38 Quit quem (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.59.48 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 19.00.17 # LambdaCalculus37: yeah, bl seems to work well so, yeah :) 19.00.48 # anything else you think it needs? 19.01.00 # jhMikeS: Just that friendly push up the ladder. :) 19.01.30 # jhMikeS: Well, one thing I'm going to do is redo a couple of the plugin keymaps so that everything isn't so bunched up on the touchpad. 19.02.19 # jhMikeS: Ahh, and one other thing I've noticed but not super important... pacbox on the SA9x00 has garbage graphics in the bottom 5 rows or so on the LCD display. 19.02.40 # jhMikeS: Other than that, everything's gravy for the port. 19.02.42 # for alot of things, I rather use |<< and >>| over < and >, for left and right in plugins 19.02.59 # jhMikeS: That's what I'm going to fix. :) 19.03.10 # ok, good then :) 19.04.39 # oh, and the pacbox, yes did notice. I haven't looked deeper though. Seems to also get garbage on the top row if sound is on. 19.05.06 # jhMikeS: I haven't tried with sound on. Will do so now. 19.08.22 # Don't see garbage on mine. 19.09.06 # it's only if it's actually making noise 19.10.35 # Now I see it. 19.11.29 Join UnconventionalT [0] (~Clayton@host192-203-dynamic.13-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 19.12.36 # If the iPod Video and the iPod classic have the same screen sizes, why would a theme work on one, but not the other? 19.14.39 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 19.14.41 # I think it's cause YCLIP turns out negative 19.16.41 Quit mudd1 (Remote host closed the connection) 19.19.17 # jhMikeS, Would I have to modify the theme to remove this problem? Because the problem does exist in the wps, but not the sbs as much... 19.21.24 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@p5DE5A0D8.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.22.55 # UnconventionalT: sorry, that was @LambdaCalculus37 19.23.26 # jhMikeS, Right. :D 19.26.54 # jhMikeS: Is that an easy fix? 19.28.15 # LambdaCalculus37: looks to be, doing it now 19.28.28 # jhMikeS: Coolio. :) 19.29.29 # jhMikeS: I'll tag a v1.0 bootloader tonight for the SA9200. 19.29.32 # * LambdaCalculus37 heads off 19.29.40 Quit LambdaCalculus37 (Quit: Time to bounce!) 19.38.45 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@p5DD57CB4.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.38.45 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 19.38.45 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.43.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.47.38 Join foolsh_ [0] (~benjamin@c-98-212-236-251.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 19.47.41 Quit UnconventionalT (Quit: Leaving) 19.48.34 Join delt [0] (1000@mail.deimos.ca) 19.48.35 # Hello 19.48.38 Quit Galois (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 19.48.56 # on sandisk e200, in A-B repeat mode, how do i set A and B points? 19.50.43 # ah got it (nice case of rtfm :D ) 19.51.20 # FS#11903 should be crushed for good now. Anyone here that can test it on an android with nav ball or one thats touch only. 19.52.03 Join guymann [0] (~charles@69.182.43.249) 19.52.37 # foolsh_: that queue_post() is most likely wrong 19.52.57 # there's a timer tick task that polls the buttons every 10ms 19.53.14 Part delt 19.54.14 # foolsh_: what kind of trackball do you have? I have a optical one, and I can hardly imagine button repeats could work on it 19.54.25 Join mudd1 [0] (~cmertes@ip-78-94-216-65.unitymediagroup.de) 19.55.20 # I'm not reading ticks I call event.startTracking(); reference - http://developer.android.com/reference/android/view/KeyEvent.Callback.html 19.56.08 # opps http://developer.android.com/reference/android/view/KeyEvent.html#startTracking%28%29 19.56.12 Quit solexx_ (Read error: Operation timed out) 19.56.20 # rockbox has a timer for it 19.56.57 # firmware/drivers/button.c 19.58.19 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-178-202-69-162.unitymediagroup.de) 19.59.34 Join solexx [0] (~jrschulz@e176115209.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.00.23 # startTracking() is not available in android below 2.0, but I'm not sure if it's a problem 20.00.29 # we run on 1.5+ currently 20.00.33 Join delt [0] (1000@www.deimos.ca) 20.00.56 # *sigh* white screen "Data abort" while trying to set the "A" repeat point :/ 20.01.38 # Back to the drawing board then ;) 20.01.51 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@unaffiliated/sideral) 20.02.00 # oh, and how come the a-b points disappear when the screen goes blank? 20.03.00 # if the screen is blank, how could there be a-b points on it? 20.03.13 # oh, noticed that before it just hanged 20.03.24 Quit GeekShad0w (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 20.03.34 # just unscrewed the back, removed & put back the battery... 20.05.08 # delt: why don't you just force reset it? 20.05.15 Join madalu [0] (~user@unaffiliated/madalu) 20.05.20 # i have to learn this before 7 pm .... no time to screw around with rockbox versions updates etc etc.. 20.05.24 # gevaerts: how? 20.05.33 # hold power for a while 20.06.04 # tried, didn't work... define "while" 20.06.29 # while: an unspecified duration 20.06.34 # 30 seconds or more 20.08.09 # oh, got it... hangs in A-B repeat mode when you rewind and reach the beginning of the file 20.10.54 # foolsh_: can you describe the problem a bit more? 20.11.07 # I don't think I understood *what* needs fixing 20.11.11 # anyway, thanks 20.11.12 Part delt 20.15.21 # the problem is that you don't get a keyevent on first pressing the key down its not until it is released that anything is happens a long key press just turns into one key press 20.16.59 # the work is around in button-application.c try removing that and nothing gets through 20.19.18 # are we talking about pressing the trackball or directional buttons here? 20.19.37 # buttons 20.20.01 # directional "buttons"? 20.20.41 # I have a hard time to imagine how one could ever do a long "press" on my optical trackpad 20.20.55 # sorry yes directional buttons 20.21.04 # or trackball or whatever this thing is called 20.21.33 # i notice no problems with the directional part of it here 20.23.24 # should Flash 1.5 onto my tilt and see it's an api thing? 20.23.45 # running 2.3 20.25.52 Join thomasjfox [0] (~thomasjfo@dslb-088-066-091-204.pools.arcor-ip.net) 20.26.14 # the docs say it needs api level 5+, which is 2.0 20.26.23 # no need to flash 1.5 I'd say 20.28.12 # I meant to check a svn build against 1.5 and see if it has the same issue 20.28.43 # New commit by 03jethead71 (r29138): Pacbox: Fix assumption about LCD width of 128 implying the display needs vertical clipping. No more screen garbage on sa9200. 20.29.06 # hey kugel 20.29.12 # foolsh_: I'm running 2.3 as well 20.29.17 # foolsh_: what device do you have? 20.29.23 # I discovered something about the ASSEMBLER_THREADS crash 20.29.44 # It's related to optimizer 20.29.47 # kaiser tilt 20.29.57 # cool, although I was about to say asm threads are not that important at all 20.30.20 # If I compile with -O0, it works fine (testing since sunday) 20.30.25 # -O1 kills it 20.30.44 # I tried to look up all the switches that get enabled by -O1 and added them manually to the gcc command line 20.30.49 # foolsh_: oh I see; well this is an unusual device 20.31.01 # normal android phones don't have this kind of dpad 20.31.01 # It didn't crash 20.31.29 # -O* also enable optimizations that don't have a switch on their own 20.31.43 # r29138 build result: All green 20.31.55 # Guess something like that 20.32.04 # I wanted to look at the gcc source once I find some time for it 20.32.24 # it's probably a gcc bug, and I suggest not wasting more time on it :) 20.32.30 # Without optimizations, ASSEMBLER_THREADS runs about 3%-5% slower than sigaltstack :) 20.32.32 # ok 20.33.05 # kugel: I was thinking it should handle the key presses no differently than the back or menu keys 20.33.06 # sigaltstack is fine with me 20.33.16 # it doesn't really matter since the asm threads essentially just inline long/setjmp which sigaltstack uses 20.33.46 # Exactly 20.34.24 # foolsh_: the problem is, though, that usually you have a ball/optical sensor which you don't press. you just slide over those and this makes long press actually impossible 20.35.10 # if there's a way it works good for both kinds then great, but if your patch makes it worse (I haven't tried it) for the normal devices I'm afraid we can't accept it 20.35.58 # does android at least report KEY_DOWN/KEY_UP accordingly? 20.36.05 # or correctly 20.36.33 # thomasjfox: what gcc do you use for maemo again? 20.36.40 # kugel: 4.2.1 20.36.55 # at least for maemo 5 20.37.20 # I seem to remember we had problems with 4.1.x or 4.2.x but I'm not sure 20.37.33 # which one do you use on android? 20.37.44 # but there was a reason we switched from 4.0.1 to 4.4.4 without the versions between 20.37.53 # 4.4.3, as provided by the ndk 20.38.00 # quite new :) 20.38.43 # kugel: should there really be assumptions in the code about "normal" android phones? 20.38.57 Quit simonrvn (Read error: No route to host) 20.39.02 # mine doesn't have a ball or sensor either 20.39.13 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54B6726F.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.39.20 # back and menu buttons are there though and seem to work 20.39.23 # kugel: Is the optical trackball some what like the soft buttons at some screen edges? 20.39.32 # thomasjfox: the 4.4 series is almost 2 years old 20.40.10 # foolsh_: it's like a physical trackball, just with an optical sensor 20.40.13 # kugel: 4.4.3 is still from 2010 ;) 20.40.27 # 4.4.0 from the older ndk worked just as well :) 20.41.03 # so if scroll up it returns up up up up up up right? 20.41.04 # the even older ndk used 4.2.1 too, and the changelog mentions 4.4.x has significat improvements over 4.2 20.41.17 # foolsh_: exactly 20.41.33 # ok I'll go back and see what I can dig up 20.41.41 # but you also need to move your finger over it so it makes sense 20.41.55 Join slade [0] (5b271366@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.39.19.102) 20.42.05 # kugel: like a mouse upside down 20.42.09 Join simonrvn [0] (simon@209.66-ppp.3menatwork.com) 20.42.18 Join FBI_Guy [0] (~moresuper@pool-96-233-107-20.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) 20.42.20 # optical mouse that is 20.42.28 # exactly 20.42.50 # the physical trackball is also like a mouse upside down, just a mouse with ball :) 20.43.17 # Hey everybody I have a short question on my port for the R0, I am currently looking at my Linux Kernel sources and I have no Samsung proprietory source code concerning the drivers. Is it possible to use the linux kernel drivers for the rockbox port (of course I would need to use the include files as well) 20.43.21 # pixelma: no, but we shouldn't prioritize hacked winmo phones over real android ones 20.44.14 # would the trackball still return up up up up up when scrolling up? 20.44.27 # yes 20.44.29 # mine's a "real" android one, there can be hardware differences - see search button discussion 20.45.17 # his patch (if I understood it correctly) makes the assumption that the dpad is a proper button, which would break all android phones with trackballs 20.45.30 # this of course doesn't matter if there's no dpad/trackball at all ;) 20.47.24 # my statement wasn't about the patch in detail, more about your "normal android phones have this or that" in the discussion here. Of course, if there are better ways to do what the patch does it should be done. I was just bothered by your assumption 20.47.34 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 20.48.11 # what assumption? 20.48.50 # about all android phones have a trackball/sensor 20.49.07 # I didn't assume that, I know that's not true 20.50.18 # It would be nice if android has a is.scrolling flag some where 20.51.27 # foolsh_: so on your device there's only one press in the dpad direction no matter how long you hold the button? 20.52.09 # kugel: the press does not come through until the key is released 20.52.17 # ah right 20.52.22 # I'd expect that to be a problem in virtually all apps 20.52.35 # yeah 20.52.58 # may I suggest that your device port should be fixed instead? 20.53.13 # okay, "fixed", this is really an android limitation I suppose 20.53.24 # Certainly do tell 20.55.31 # so the trackballs and optical trackers send BUTTON_DPAD_UP|BUTTON_REL for every tick of the balls gpio when you scroll? 20.55.37 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Quit: I'm only going to Heaven if it feels like Hell, I'm only going to Heaven if it tastes like caramel...) 20.57.42 # yea 20.59.12 # you could simulate repeats if the trackpad KEY_UPs comes in short intervals but I think that's not what happens on my phone 20.59.41 # but that would still be no help on your device I think 21.00.48 # should I try to separate Aaapp into two different ports? Dpad and track/optical ball. touch only could probably run either one. 21.02.01 # probably easier 21.04.11 # how do you trigger the shutdown again? device is an ipod mini 21.06.24 # thomasjfox: how's your progress otherwise? 21.07.14 # kugel: Currently looking into bluetooth headset support 21.07.44 # It's a pita the get the button presses from dbus 21.08.23 # * kugel would like to know how to work with bt headsets on android 21.08.45 # * foolsh_ concurs 21.09.39 Quit FBI_Guy (Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.22 :: www.esnation.com )) 21.09.55 # kugel: On maemo they end up here: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer_logicaldev_input_1 21.10.18 # The "_1" is hardcoded in some applications. Somehow I believe this is more of a hack... 21.10.28 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 21.13.16 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@dhcp-129-228.residence.ens-lyon.fr) 21.13.16 Quit Buschel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.13.17 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 21.13.17 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 21.14.27 # kugel: I have an idea I think the track ball sends BUTTON_*|BUTTON_REL from onKeyDown(). I could see about sending that from onKeyUp() and I might be able to call onKeyLongPress() and try some hacks to work around this. 21.17.12 Quit madalu (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.17.15 # Thats if scrolling the ball sends a onKeyUp which it should 21.17.31 Part foolsh_ ("out") 21.18.33 # I don't know for sure but it probably does, perhaps even both KEY_DOWN and KEY_UP immediately after another 21.18.38 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54B6726F.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.33.43 Quit slade (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 21.37.20 Quit Buschel (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203075014]) 21.37.31 Join Galois [0] (djao@efnet-math.org) 21.38.27 Quit plux (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 21.43.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.44.42 # thomasjfox: I hope we can put some of your work into svn soon'ish 21.44.54 # kugel: Me too 21.45.08 # kugel: Let me split up the sim_cc() stuff into maemocc() 21.45.29 # I'll then prepare a minimal patch with just the PLATFORM_MAEMO stuff 21.45.36 # Maybe even without the gstreamer backend? 21.46.03 # did you get pulseaudio to work? 21.46.11 # Didn't try yet 21.46.23 # But I'm condifent it won't be that hard 21.47.10 # kugel: Which reminds me of one commit which I need a comment on. Hold on a sec 21.48.00 # I would like too see pulseaudio working (if it has the "promised" advantages, unifying n8xx&n900, getting rid of the feed_data() workaround, perhaps less cpu usage) but OTOH it's not that critical is it? 21.48.07 Nick amee2k is now known as amee2cat (~thomas@ve504.cugnet.net) 21.49.06 # kugel: It works fine without a hickup for days (using sigaltstack) 21.49.29 # great 21.49.43 # kugel: http://repo.or.cz/w/maemo-rb.git/commit/14e8ab28d374b5ee748dbef362995764683abec8 21.49.46 # I'm still wondering about the "german keyboard hack" 21.50.07 Join [Saint] [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.1.127) 21.50.28 # kugel: Maybe I should rename it to "german keyboard support" :o) 21.50.42 # kugel: Do you know the german keyboard layout of the n900? 21.50.59 Join milk [0] (~milk@cpc1-sgyl9-0-0-cust268.sgyl.cable.virginmedia.com) 21.51.51 # not realy 21.53.43 # kugel: They decided to share the up/down buttons with the left/right buttons to squeeze in some umlaut keys 21.54.11 # kugel: So pressing ALT+LEFT gives you DOWN, ALT+RIGHT gives you UP 21.55.44 # that doesn't happen transparently for apps? 21.55.54 Join plux [0] (~yogurt@h-34-71.A238.priv.bahnhof.se) 21.56.09 # Apparently not for SDL :(( 21.56.28 # The preinstalled "tetris" like game doesn't work properly either 21.56.37 # about your commit; it should have picked the file in $(HOME)/.config/rockbox.org just because it exists 21.57.22 # but I think your patch should be fine 21.58.09 # kugel: There was something going wrong with that magic. It never deleted the database-to-commit-on-next-run file 21.58.40 # Let me have a look at the code again 21.59.24 # does it rename perhaps? I could imagine it tries to rename from $HOME/.config/rockbox.org to /.rockbox (if the target doesn't exist) 22.00.11 # kugel: I just remember it started looking in the wrong folder. Doesn't happen for android builds as they have a special case with the sdcard. I was able to reproduce it with a SDL build, too. 22.05.05 # kugel: I think I got it again: IS_FILE isn't set by app_remove() so the first try_path($HOME/.config/rockbox.org/xyz) fails as the database-commit-file is obviously not a directory. It then tries again in the non-writable share/rockbox directory. 22.06.23 # kugel: Same is true for app_rename() though we can't use IS_FILE there. NEED_WRITE is the correct solution as these are all write operations. 22.07.05 # indeed 22.07.48 # So we just need a better commit message for this one ;) 22.07.56 # yea :) 22.09.47 # * pixelma wonders where support for some keys on the numpad for the sims has gone 22.11.24 # e.g. in a c200 sim 3 (menu/power), 7 & 9 (volume down & up) don't seem to do anything anymore, only the arrow keys (and their numerical equivalents 2, 4, 6, 8) seem to work still 22.11.43 # kugel: Care to write one while committing or should I write one? 22.11.48 # oh, 5 (select) also works 22.12.07 # thomasjfox: I would be happy if you do it :) 22.12.22 # kugel: Ok, I'll queue it up as the next task 22.12.55 # optimally you just give me something to cherry-pick so that I only need to dcommit :P 22.14.11 # kugel: I'll generate you a git format-patch file. So you just need to run "git am FILENAME" 22.14.43 # fine as well 22.15.40 # amiconn, gevaerts: Does anyone of you have a bluetooth headset connected to the n900? 22.15.52 # * gevaerts doesn't 22.16.04 # * amiconn neither 22.16.08 # crap :) 22.16.37 # * amiconn doesn't even have a bluetooth headset, but he does have a bluetooth handsfree in his car 22.16.41 # Guess I'll try it in the car tomorrow 22.16.50 # hehe, same idea here 22.17.27 # I could also try bluetooth audio to the PC. This worked with my old dumbphone - didn't try it yet with the N900 22.17.45 Quit Dreamxtreme (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 22.18.10 # * amiconn would at first need to know how install rockbox on the N900 though 22.18.34 # amiconn: That's easy: http://wiki.maemo.org/Rockbox 22.18.51 Quit sideral (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.20.41 # Hmm. Would have been easier to find (for me at least) if it were in the rockbox wiki 22.21.49 # * amiconn thinks that we need manuals for the raaa ports 22.22.32 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.22.33 # They probably need to be somewhat generic, because the application usually runs on more than one device 22.22.33 # amiconn: I didn't put it in rockbox's wiki as the code is not upstream yet 22.23.17 # please put it in our wiki anyway 22.23.21 # :) 22.23.30 # you cna put a note saying it's not committed 22.24.02 # * amiconn also needs to put some music on his n900 22.25.41 # Hmm, battery: 15%? It's fully charged... 22.26.05 # should the app even have a battery meter? 22.26.11 Join factor [0] (~factor@75.108.68.114) 22.27.19 # Why is there an 'android' folder in the 'rockbox' folder? 22.27.51 # amiconn: Do you get a 15% batttery readout on the n900? 22.28.36 Join Dreamxtreme [0] (~Dre@92.30.197.143) 22.28.41 # In rockbox, yes 22.29.04 # Also, the 'rockbox' folder in /home/user seems to contain the complete source?! 22.29.17 # amiconn: Please do this as root: "lshal -u /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/bme |grep percent" 22.29.20 # Eh, sorry, just confused myself 22.31.14 # battery.charge_level.percentage = 15 (0xf) (int) 22.31.35 # hmm. So HAL really thinks the battery is 15% 22.31.59 # But the battery symbol in the n900 status bar shows full charge. The multicolour led does too when the display is off 22.32.02 # And it' 22.32.14 # s still connected to the charger... 22.32.26 # ah! 22.32.51 # The percentage value isn't updated correctly IIRC when the charger is connected 22.33.08 # IIRC it's the last state before you plugged in the charger 22.33.20 # Hmm. Battery-eye says the charge was 15% before I started charging it 22.33.30 # Disconnect it and try the lshal command again 22.33.34 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54B6726F.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.34.08 # * thomasjfox got a confusing message from the rockbox wiki during registration about being suspicious 22.34.24 Join user890104 [0] (~Venci@2001:0:5ef5:79fd:34d0:21f2:2b16:10ec) 22.34.26 # thomasjfox: ignore that 22.34.43 # thomasjfox: I and others get that too for no apparent reason 22.34.48 # AlexP: Well, it didn't send out a confirmation email yet 22.34.56 # hopefully you get it 22.35.09 # As it seems to have been being weird about that too 22.35.18 # you're like the third or fourth to tell that here 22.35.20 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 22.36.21 # "Access check on Main.ThomasJarosch failed. Action "CHANGE": access not allowed on web. " 22.36.23 # thomasjfox: Now I get 88% 22.36.31 # Nice welcome message :) 22.36.41 # thomasjfox: Yes, you need to confirmation email, then someone here needs to give you access 22.36.48 # The sign up page tells you this :) 22.36.54 # * amiconn wonders how to get to the main menu from the wps 22.37.41 # amiconn: Click the rockbox logo on the bottom-left and the navigate your way up from the "files" dialog. That's how I do it... 22.38.12 # AlexP: Yes. That mail just didn't arrive yet... 22.38.14 # There has to be a direct way. On actual devices there is... 22.38.39 # thomasjfox: The wiki seems to be a bit buggered at the moment 22.38.49 # * AlexP summons zagor 22.38.56 # amiconn: Something is still wrong with the theme. [Saint] hinted the touchscreen areas are overlaping 22.39.41 # There's a reason why the port is just in extras-devel ;) 22.40.58 # New commit by 03Buschel (r29139): Remove WPS related variable which is read but not set or changed. Closes FS#11396. 22.41.43 Quit {phoenix} (Remote host closed the connection) 22.42.26 # Alexp: I tried registering again and the wiki told me I'm already registered. I guess the confirmation email is stuck somewhere/lost 22.42.49 # thomasjfox: yes, that seems to be happening recently :/ 22.43.09 # thomasjfox: If you see zagor on, prod him, I'll try to too 22.43.19 # So I have a good excuse for Torne why I can't add the maemo port to the wiki :) 22.43.29 # yep :) 22.44.15 # r29139 build result: All green 22.45.31 # thomasjfox: Playing through bluetooth audio just works 22.45.53 # I'm not sure which profile it's actually using 22.46.16 # amiconn: So you send the audio signal from the n900 to your PC, right? 22.46.21 # I just connected the n900 to my (win 7) laptop, and it started redirecting default audio 22.46.27 # yes 22.46.30 # nice 22.46.46 # Works for the default media play as well as for rockbox 22.46.51 # *media player 22.47.54 # Nice one. Another feature: Try calling your n900 while rockbox is playing. It will stop playback. 22.47.55 Join foolsh_ [0] (~benjamin@c-98-212-236-251.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 22.48.02 # man I hate java 22.48.18 # Rockbox also stopped when I started playback in "the other" media player 22.48.31 # (complete with a yellow popup) 22.49.02 # kugel: I have a roughed in idea you want to look it over it junk right now but the concept is there 22.49.13 Join Stephen__ [0] (~S@86.42.26.228) 22.49.24 Quit Buschel (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203075014]) 22.49.49 # amiconn: perfect 22.49.55 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@f049139127.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.50.42 # Calling it works too 22.51.00 # amiconn: CPU usage will drop significantly if you push rockbox into background (CTRL+BACKSPACE) or lock the screen 22.52.06 # Hmm, touch regions aren't the only bug in the wps 22.52.28 # Next track info is also buggy - it's shown even if there is no next track 22.52.39 Quit Topy (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.52.41 # * amiconn summons the wps specialists 22.53.36 # <[Saint]> .....just got up, but....."yes?" 22.53.51 # amiconn: Or it may show the wrong track if the user adjusts the dynamic playlist. 22.54.03 Quit bertrik (Quit: :tiuQ) 22.54.33 # The wps file can be found here: http://repo.or.cz/w/maemo-rb.git/blob/ac1e2c09c0e479bc69130c9760df009c965cca1c:/wps/cabbiev2.800x480x16.wps 22.57.22 # What doesn't work with rockbox but with the standard media player when playing thorugh usb audio is conrolling the device (i.e. rockbox) from the PC 22.58.57 # When the N900 is connected, Win7 shows a little mediaplayer like window with some buttons: Play/Pause, Stop, Skip back and Skip forward 22.58.58 # amiconn: Can you run "lshal -m" while doing this. This should show button "events" 22.59.16 # amiconn: Ah, that might be the "bluetooth" support I just implemented 22.59.27 # I bet they end up at the same hal device 23.01.10 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@ree79-1-78-237-225-34.fbx.proxad.net) 23.01.10 Quit GeekShadow (Changing host) 23.01.10 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 23.02.00 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.02.33 # http://pastebin.de/14201 23.02.53 Quit rasher (Quit: leaving) 23.03.05 Join rasher [0] (~rasher@frotz.zork.net) 23.03.05 Quit rasher (Changing host) 23.03.05 Join rasher [0] (~rasher@rockbox/developer/rasher) 23.03.37 # amiconn: Do you want to try a new rockbox binary I just built? It should exactly support this. 23.05.03 Join factor [0] (~factor@75.108.68.114) 23.06.02 # <[Saint]> whatever the viewport on the bottom left is, %V(166,395,160,75,-), oh... ff/rw slightly overlaps the progressbar, but that's no biggie. 23.06.34 # <[Saint]> I noticed with my theme that it behaved a million times beter with non-viewport relative touch areas. 23.07.50 # <[Saint]> ie. if the touch area isn't conditional, define it in the fullscreen viewport in one lump at the start of the theme. that made my theme behave a whole lot nicer for some reason. 23.08.15 # <[Saint]> I can't see anything obviously wrong with the theme though. 23.09.00 # [Saint] The ff button is messed up: It always brings up the context menu 23.10.16 Quit thomasjfox (Remote host closed the connection) 23.10.38 Join thomasjfox [0] (~thomasjfo@dslb-088-066-091-204.pools.arcor-ip.net) 23.13.02 # <[Saint]> Unfortunately, I can't actually tell for sure if there are overlapping touch areas because the theme editor is an idiot and doesn't understand viewport relative touch areas. 23.15.28 # <[Saint]> it will take some while to convert them to screen relative positions to be sure they're not overlapping. 23.15.40 # <[Saint]> I will do so, for now...I need coffee. 23.15.45 # hehe 23.16.09 # I'll have to leave, it's way too late already 23.16.51 # * thomasjfox wonders why he -always- spends more time with rockbox than he had originally planned 23.17.03 # <[Saint]> pm me an email address if you want, and I'll send you my results after I've had a play around. 23.17.14 # ok, thanks! 23.20.01 Quit thomasjfox (Remote host closed the connection) 23.24.05 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: free(me)) 23.31.41 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 23.31.46 Quit kevku (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.2 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) 23.32.41 # ah, http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2011/01/google-summer-of-code-announced-at-lca.html 23.33.47 # org application deadline on march 11, applications accepted from feb 28 23.34.09 # who can edit that rockbox calendar? 23.34.11 # we need a really good page with project ideas then 23.34.26 # n1s: I can 23.34.30 # And AlexP 23.34.50 # gevaerts: cool, could either of you add that deadline date maybe? 23.34.59 # Bagder: indeed 23.35.08 # Actually, I'd say we also need something like download stats, so we can guess at some number of users 23.35.42 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@87-206-240-131.dynamic.chello.pl) 23.37.05 # Do we have some brilliant ideas for Gsoc written down somewhere? 23.37.11 # no :) 23.37.23 # Well, we have some ideas written down somewhere 23.37.38 # probably what's left over from previous years 23.38.26 # we have plenty of time to come up with ideas though 23.38.33 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 23.38.42 # yes and no 23.38.45 # 2 months is not that much time 23.39.45 # It's about six weeks or so, but if we don't have a decent set of ideas at least two weeks for the deadline, having things nicely fleshed out and well presented isn't easy 23.40.42 # Last year's ideas are at http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SummerOfCode2010 23.41.03 # <[Saint]> it'd be nice if someone picked up the TTS again. 23.41.17 # Who is responsible for themesite? I think it would be nice to add comments for themes. 23.41.31 # wodz: you are :) 23.41.34 # (now) 23.42.07 # Seriously though, JdGordon did experiment a bit with themesite<->forum interaction for that 23.42.27 # TTS is rather hard topic 23.42.52 # [Saint]: yes, but we also know that the last thing we heard last year was basically "This is a lot harder than expected" 23.42.58 # <[Saint]> gevaerts: wow...that's right, I'd forgotten about that. 23.43.05 # I think it is unrealistic to port some TTS engine to rockbox without first allow for mallocs 23.43.12 # <[Saint]> (re: themesite <-> forum) 23.43.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.44.31 # <[Saint]> I don't think it "absolutely couldn't be done", I just think the right person needs to pick it up. 23.44.57 # That's true, but recognising the right person also isn't really easy 23.45.06 # <[Saint]> correct. 23.45.12 # * gevaerts is a pessimist at heart of course 23.48.15 Join quem [0] (~foo@c83-254-244-101.bredband.comhem.se) 23.48.31 # Bagder, scorche: maybe one way of counting installs would be to correlate numbers from the script that provides build data to rbutil and the script that provides theme info to rbutil? 23.49.01 # right, that should be trivial to extract 23.50.11 # I would add to the wishlist developing of the free, interactive dissasembler on top of objdump (or on top of library which it uses) 23.50.38 # wodz: if you know php then the themesite<->forum integration can get finished :) 23.50.50 # I got as far as making the code to be able to start a forum thread 23.50.52 Join Fees [0] (~5ee361c7@giant.haxx.se) 23.51.12 # JdGordon|: fortunately I don't know php :-) 23.51.24 # bah! :) 23.52.25 # I do think that providing some sort of usage stats would be very useful for things like gsoc. I do get the impression that many people assume that we have something like a few hundred users or so 23.52.50 # JdGordon|: refreshing my perl knowledge in FS#11893 is more than enough for me :-) 23.53.24 # gevaerts: and how many users do we have actually? 23.53.31 # wodz: more than that :) 23.53.35 Quit Fees (Client Quit) 23.53.40 Quit komputes (Remote host closed the connection) 23.54.39 # from Jan 16 - 23 23.54.45 # any guess how many rbutils that downloaded data? 23.54.56 # unique IPs 23.55.27 # wodz: http://daniel.haxx.se/blog/2008/05/15/rockbox-downloads-april-2008/ are the most recent real download numbers we have, but take into account that we didn't have releases back then so it's possible that people updated daily 23.55.38 # Bagder: 12357 23.55.49 # 47091 23.56.06 # wow 23.56.20 # I'll check the week before to compare 23.56.31 # 48099 23.56.56 # hm 23.56.58 Quit evilnick_B (Quit: Page closed) 23.57.00 # wait, I did it wrong 23.57.09 # <[Saint]> that's unique IPs? 23.57.16 # <[Saint]> ...wow 23.57.17 # no, I messed up 23.57.20 # <[Saint]> ah. 23.57.30 # that's probably all visitors on the site =) 23.57.35 Quit chattr (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 23.57.49 # from a look at some of the sim keymaps it seems the "problematic" buttons are ones that only define one key in the switch - may be coincidence though, I really don't know where to look / what to look for :/ 23.57.53 # That's basically downloaded whenever someone runs rbutil and checks if they can possibly install rockbox, right? 23.58.02 # (well, the corrected number will be...) 23.58.48 # nice topic for Gsoc would be to adapt clang to build for new arms and see how this compares to gcc