--- Log for 17.02.111 Server: gibson.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 4 hours and 3 minutes ago 00.00.04 # I think they found some linux patch for this controller (or a similar one) somewhere 00.02.08 Quit esperegu_ (Remote host closed the connection) 00.03.37 # afair pamaury has a copy of the linux driver also ? 00.04.29 Join fejfighter [0] (~fejfighte@C-59-101-18-112.hay.connect.net.au) 00.07.45 # yes I have a copy of the as3525v2 patch 00.10.03 # pamaury: care to share it? and do you by chance know the answer to my SD power question? 00.10.52 # I know nothing about the sd part but yeah I can send it to you 00.11.58 # thanks! 00.13.46 Join markun [0] (~markun@ip503cd9a5.speed.planet.nl) 00.13.49 Quit markun (Changing host) 00.13.49 Join markun [0] (~markun@rockbox/developer/markun) 00.14.08 # bertrik: Just for the record: Does your Clip+ have a background noise? 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want to ask it in #freemyipod-support instead 08.29.11 # sorry that nick was reg'd 08.29.35 # okay well I'll ask you guys, since I'm here now, and if it's their problem I'll make my way over there 08.29.55 # I've set my ipod which is running rockbox to turn off when idle for a certain period of time 08.30.11 # but whenever I start it up again it goes through the bios and waits for me to select rockbox 08.30.18 # is there anyway I can have rockbox auto boot 08.30.46 # yes, by using the "fastboot" iloader theme (which boots rockbox unless a button is held during boot) 08.31.20 # * TheSeven needs to check if he has a binary of that one somewhere 08.31.38 # google isn't giving me very solid results 08.31.55 # if you could point me in the right direction I would be appreciative 08.32.26 # http://files.freemyipod.org/misc/iloader-theme-ipodclassic-default-fastboot.zip 08.32.41 # thank you very much 08.32.49 # does this work with all versions of iloader 08.33.00 # or should I modify it for my specific type of ipod 08.33.06 # there is only one version of iloader for the classic, so it should work 08.33.42 # did I mention I was using an ipod classic or are you psychic 08.34.07 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@213.165.85.248) 08.34.07 Quit sideral (Changing host) 08.34.07 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 08.34.10 # =) 08.34.44 # there are only two devices supported by iloader, and the percentage of nano2g owners using iloader is rather low 08.35.14 # <[Saint]> the ones that were use emCORE now ;) 08.35.21 # ah there you go 08.35.25 # <[Saint]> the cool ones, anyway B) 08.35.49 # well thank you for all of your help 08.38.25 # I'm sure in the morning I'll be more interested in the logistics of using rockbox across the many platforms it supports but tonight I just want a solution and to collapse 08.38.33 # A wonderful day to you all 08.38.36 # or evening 08.38.39 # which ever it may be 08.39.23 Quit abff (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 08.42.36 Quit sideral (Quit: Leaving.) 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impression as wel 09.56.24 # l 09.57.01 # Zagor: i agree with your "hell no!" reaction then :) 09.57.13 # and apparently they pay per use of that weird search engine and not per installation :) 09.57.45 # Zagor: "Sure. Can you provide the source so we can integrate it properly?" 09.57.50 # hehe 09.58.24 # and they nowhere really state how much they pay for what, so they're probably free to change that at any time as well 09.59.02 Quit sasquatch (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2) 09.59.25 # oh, they're using *really* good captchas on their registration form: https://publisher.getii.com/signup/signup.php 09.59.26 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@p4FF2D5CE.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.59.48 # haha 10.00.05 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 10.00.53 # (on the contact form as well) 10.03.08 # Zagor: depending on how they contacted you, you might want to refer them to "Please note though that we have zero tolerance to spam or fraud." on their site :) 10.03.26 Quit utanapischti (Quit: back to dsl) 10.03.35 # it was a personal mail that looked reasonably hand written 10.04.11 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 10.05.56 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 10.05.57 # Zagor: maybe they force their "customers" to write such mails? :) 10.07.31 Quit JdGordon1 (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 10.11.00 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@124-168-132-222.dyn.iinet.net.au) 10.11.01 Quit JdGordon| (Changing host) 10.11.01 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 10.14.29 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust964.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 10.28.24 Quit scorche (Disconnected by services) 10.28.33 Join scorche` [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 10.30.34 Quit mystica555 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 10.30.59 Quit froggyman (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 10.31.02 Join mystica555 [0] (~Mike@m3e2636d0.tmodns.net) 10.31.45 Join froggyman [0] (~seth@unaffiliated/froggyman) 10.35.14 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@dslb-088-069-128-006.pools.arcor-ip.net) 10.43.02 # Bah, sorry guys, fell asleep. Although I am a lot more sober now maybe this will help. Back when I was here looking for the fastboot for iLoader I took the zip you provided me and pasted that folder on to the iPod, replacing any files that conficted and restarted the system, to no avail. So either your fastboot config is broken on this hardware or I should probably just write my own. What should I do? 10.43.24 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@89.204.153.168) 10.44.26 # abff: so how did it react? 10.44.32 # it still just shows the menu after powering on? 10.44.48 # It shows the same menu it showed when I first installed it 10.45.14 # Similar to new iPod, lest on the left, iLoader with freemyipod logo on the right 10.45.19 # list* 10.45.47 # did you let go of the button you pressed to power it on during the "emBIOS " kernel boot screen? 10.45.56 # i.e. before the menu came up? 10.46.53 # Yep, it seems worthy to mention I am using one of the ipods rockbox does not support, however this is why I am using iLoader 10.48.26 # can you re-download the file and re-extract it? 10.48.34 # and also please make sure to safely eject the ipod 10.48.54 # I have both the nano default theme zip as well as the fastboot 10.49.10 # and I definitely have not been safetly ejecting it in the past 10.49.51 # It's normal that I have to go into rockbox before accessing the drive, right? 10.50.43 # and there is a NORflash.bak file in the iLoader directory I've been ignoring for a while 10.50.54 # it didn't really seem to get in my way 10.51.02 # but since I have your attention I may as well point it out 10.52.59 # all right, deleted the theme and cfg file, replaced them, then safetly removed and menu+sel until the kernel booted, let go and it went straight to the list I described earlier 10.53.15 # attempting a boot after selecting poweroff 10.53.25 # same result 10.53.42 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@141.45.200.241) 10.53.47 Quit kugel (Changing host) 10.53.47 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 10.55.25 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 10.55.38 # oh my 10.55.58 # I think I may have been using an older version of fastboot 10.57.02 # Yep, success 10.58.14 # Did you update the fastboot zip on your site, or was the one you linked to me earlier the incorrect version? 11.00.35 Join JdGordon1 [0] (~jonno@124-168-132-222.dyn.iinet.net.au) 11.00.48 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 11.03.12 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:7d0:0:f9af:feed:feed:feed:feed) 11.06.06 # [10:49] It's normal that I have to go into rockbox before accessing the drive, right? << yes 11.06.50 # Great, then I think all of my problems are solved 11.07.13 # [10:50] and there is a NORflash.bak file in the iLoader directory I've been ignoring for a while << this file can help you if you completely trash the boot flash of your ipod, which should never happen, so backing it up to a safe place can't hurt. apart from that, you can delete it from the ipod 11.08.02 # avoid rebooting using menu+select whenever possible 11.08.16 # How else do I do it 11.08.17 # this physically hurts the hard drive, and may lead to data loss/corruption 11.08.25 # shut it doen the regular way (hold play) 11.08.43 # menu+select is only needed if it doesn't respond any more for some reason 11.08.48 # You learn something new every day 11.09.14 # It's a very new device to me 11.11.15 # Okay if you're up for it I've got an out of the blue question I don't expect you to have an answer for 11.12.16 Join Izzy_ [0] (~Izzy@50.35.228.110) 11.13.01 # The device seems to pick up menu button presses while scrolling. 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Could you please use this new patch to dump the settings on your Fuze v2 again? 13.49.55 # background noise you say...I've been wondering whether my Clip+ background noise in rockbox will be eliminated sometime 13.51.22 # literal: Is your problem similar to the one described in FS#11907? 13.52.10 # yep 13.52.32 # literal: Could you please tell me which variant of the Clip+ you have? The hardware-info debug screen should report a AMSv2 variant ID under "submodel". 13.52.49 # I'll get back to you on that later today, since my Clip+ is at home 13.53.12 # literal: That's fine, thanks. You can post it to this tracker item. 13.53.17 # will do 13.53.53 # literal: Just to confirm: You hear the noise only when the SD storage is accessed? Internal / external SD card? 13.54.25 Quit bluefoxx (Quit: Can we, should we, will we?) 13.54.44 # I hear noise when accessing both internal and SD storage, I believe. Even when I'm just browsing the database 13.55.00 # But not during regular playback? 13.55.39 # I'm not sure. I'll try playing at a low volume to see if the noise is there 13.56.16 Quit L-Strife89 (Quit: Preparing for class) 13.57.07 # And to answer your question: I'd like to eliminate those noises, but don't know whether I'll be able to. It would be helpful if someone with a JTAG's ClipV2 or Clip+ could do some readings with the OF... 13.58.51 Join bluefoxx [0] (fuzzylomba@S0106485b3917092d.vs.shawcable.net) 13.59.00 # Thanks! Please post your results... 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Fixes FS#11948. 19.37.39 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 19.39.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.39.45 # r29323 build result: 1291 errors, 486 warnings (Buschel committed) 19.40.15 # Good score :) 19.40.24 # well done ! 19.40.34 # impressive! 19.40.43 # hm, is this the same client that had the same problem the other day? 19.41.02 # that's impressive givent that you only modified a .c file 19.41.04 # * gevaerts summons Zagor or Bagder to check this in the build system database 19.41.42 # It's the same symptoms anyway 19.41.45 # * Buschel wants to point out that the score is especially impressive as we are in a freeze phase :) 19.42.21 # Buschel: only scores that are not caused by flaky build systems are counted! 19.43.00 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@SEAS011.wlan.seas.upenn.edu) 19.43.49 # * n1s hugs his high score 19.46.02 # that was indeed a good one ;) 19.48.36 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@p5DD57F78.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.48.37 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 19.48.37 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.49.46 # Buschel: Have you tried the DMA disable? I think disk DMA is not quite right on PP5020. 19.50.32 # jhMikeS: no, I did not try. Is there any reproducible issue or just the sporadic stuff? 19.51.01 # it's not sporadic on my H10, and the with the DMA turnoff, it's stable 19.51.40 # I only have a PP5022 device... maybe the issues are only "older" PP's? 19.52.52 # the sporadic thing can be explained by alignment and the sector buffers will sometimes be aligned and sometimes not. I wonder if the controller is actually done writing to ram soon enough because then it's only one sector transferred which is then immediately used 19.52.58 Quit Zarggg (Quit: Zarggg) 19.53.50 # My only ATA PP502x is PP5020 19.54.31 # there are quite a number of bugs conspiring. buffering itself should be well taken care of by now. 19.54.52 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 19.55.16 Quit thegeek_ (Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )) 19.55.21 Quit thegeek (Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )) 19.55.45 # in fact the DMA stuff did not have *that* big effect on battery runtime. only the transfaer rates became a lot higher... 19.56.27 # skipping bugs seem to be races between the codec thread and the audio thread (mostly anyway). I did work something out by making the codec thread "dumb" and the problem I could reproduce goes away. 19.56.33 Quit Kohlrabi (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 19.57.12 Quit Llorean (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 19.58.38 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@p4FE8F5D1.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.59.55 Join Kohlrabi [0] (~kohlrabi@kohlio.de) 20.08.40 # jhMikeS: a forum user (with iPod mini) also describes the known lock-up issues since he switched from 3.5 to 3.7.1. 3,5 was the last versio w/o ATA DMA. 20.11.21 # interesting. I never recognozed this before. all open bug reports regarding freeze/lockup/static are reported for PP-targets... 20.12.04 Quit Kohlrabi (Remote host closed the connection) 20.12.41 Join DerPapst1 [0] (~Alexander@p4FE8F5D1.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.13.32 Join Kohlrabi [0] (~kohlrabi@kohlio.de) 20.15.53 Join esperegu_ [0] (~quassel@145.116.10.163) 20.15.57 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lem0n@151.62.167.116) 20.16.50 Quit esperegu (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 20.16.56 Quit DerPapst (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 20.20.52 # Buschel: I have a wild guess that maybe beyond the drive interrupt, something else needs to be waited for in the controller (which explains sort transfer being more vulnerable since the data gets used sooner) 20.21.15 # s/sort transfer/short tranfers/ 20.21.32 Join L-Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@207.144.201.128) 20.25.55 # jhMikeS: another interesting fact -> some tasks report static noise when the playbac locked up. maybe something going wrong with the DMA for PCM vs. ATA? 20.28.44 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@rockbox/user/Llorean) 20.29.48 # those DMA's are completely different modules 20.34.47 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@2.208.94.48) 20.34.48 Quit kugel (Changing host) 20.34.48 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 20.34.53 # that also doesn't explain the H10 blowing up during database commit and dircache scan (which I expect does a fair number of single-sector reads) 20.47.11 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 20.50.20 # I just thought that there could be something messing up in DMA controller which also may affect the PCM transfer... 20.58.36 Join user890104 [0] (Venci@venci-notebook-lan.ipv6.6bez10.info) 20.58.54 # yeah, that would still hold true (corrupted transfer) :) 21.00.15 Quit n1s (Read error: Operation timed out) 21.00.34 # a user reports the same (sporadic lock-up with or w/o static) with a nano 2g... not PP... 21.01.43 # report = new comment to FS#11863 21.11.33 # I wonder if it's even the same issues for the two 21.12.23 # could be interesting to provide builds that disable ATA DMA on PP502x... 21.25.04 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 21.26.07 Quit Buschel (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 21.35.07 Quit Jerom (Quit: Leaving.) 21.38.08 Quit mystica555_ (Read error: No route to host) 21.39.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.42.24 Join simonrvn_ [0] (~simon@70.35.161.143) 21.43.13 Quit simonrvn (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.43.13 Nick simonrvn_ is now known as simonrvn (~simon@70.35.161.143) 21.52.04 Quit L-Strife89 (Quit: Returning to the dorm.) 22.00.01 Join lixxus [0] (~Mehdi@94-193-44-17.zone7.bethere.co.uk) 22.00.47 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.03.15 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: free(me)) 22.09.02 # will 3.8 support toshiba gigabeat s installation via rockbox utility program ? 22.10.40 Quit Stummi (Quit: Bye!) 22.13.44 # lixxus: if Mr. Someone does it 22.13.54 # No 22.13.58 # 3.8 is too close 22.14.17 # Even if someone implemented it today, I think it would be too risky to include 22.16.05 # is the utility even tied to releases 22.16.18 # not directly, no 22.16.42 # so one may just add that at any time, and the utility will install 3.8 or HEAD, depending on what you tell it 22.16.48 # Oh, and 3.8 won't include the gigabeats s anyway 22.17.00 # right, it's not stable :) 22.17.09 # any SD/MMC expert around? 22.17.13 # bertrik? :P 22.17.17 # somewhere around 6.0 I think 22.18.38 # I have a problem that the "card" (a CE-ATA hard drive) seems to enumerate fine, but as soon as I try to read data from it (CMD 60: READ MULTIPLE REGISTERS), it fails with a CRC error and end bit errors on some data lines 22.18.57 # am I correct that this may mean that the data lines are all dead and just CLK, CMD and maybe RES are working? 22.19.05 # so could that be coming from a wrong GPIO setup? 22.19.56 # I don't know, but that sounds like a reasonable explanation 22.21.13 # so the data lines aren't used at all during the typical init sequence? 22.23.18 # ok the utility is independent of the release 22.28.05 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@SEAS027.wlan.seas.upenn.edu) 22.30.34 # lixxus: Rockbox Utility has the problem that it (currently) assumes that the player to install has a drive letter. 22.30.41 Quit GeekShadow (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.30.47 # which is not true for the Gigabeat S until you installed the bootloader. 22.30.56 Join GeekShad0w [0] (~Antoine@ree79-1-78-237-225-34.fbx.proxad.net) 22.32.03 # lixxus: in fact you _can_ use Rockbox Utility with the Gigabeat S. The only problem is that you need to install the bootloader manually yourself first before you are able to configure Rockbox Utility for the beast (and you need to enable the "show disabled targets" option) 22.33.36 Quit [Saint] (Quit: I'm only going to Heaven if it feels like Hell, I'm only going to Heaven if it tastes like caramel...) 22.34.49 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 22.35.23 # jhMikeS: Did you have the chance to take a reading of the power-management regs on your FuzeV2? 22.38.47 Join [Saint] [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.1.44) 22.41.57 # not yet, was finishing up on some other things, will do soon though 22.42.50 # jhMikeS: I found an interesting difference in the configuration of Luca's FuzeV2 22.42.59 # and would like to see if yours has it as well 22.43.13 # what was it? 22.43.26 # haven't verified yet whether it makes a difference on my ClipV2, yet -- will do that next 22.43.58 # mine's a "variant 0" btw 22.44.00 # it's a difference in DCDC15 22.44.32 # the FuzeV2 apparently selects current feedback mode, where the Clips have voltage feedback mode 22.48.18 # but the datasheet says that current feedback mode only works with an external Zener diode. Let's see what happens when I enable that mode on my ClipV2. :) 22.48.28 # smoke? :) 22.48.36 # I guess! 22.49.00 # wasn't DCDC15 related to backlight voltage? 22.49.28 # bertrik: could be. 22.49.42 # but any unstable voltage could generate that background noise, I think 22.50.00 # * jhMikeS goes to get the patch 22.50.32 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: Bye ;)) 22.55.52 Part lixxus 23.04.31 # * sideral 's Clip smokes! 23.06.07 # Hmm, that didn't help with the background noise. It just "dimmed" the OLED display 23.06.29 # Another dead end I guess :) 23.07.43 # still want the dump? 23.08.48 # yes, please! 23.10.06 # So can anybody explain to me why the internal date/time on my Gigabeat S keeps resetting? 23.10.26 # Amusing as it is to see it proclaiming that it's 2003 again 23.12.05 # losing battery? 23.12.57 # it shouldn't be resetting on its own (mine isn't) 23.13.50 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 23.14.28 # Battery life isn't the greatest on the thing, but I'd figured there'd at least be an RTC battery like what most other devices have 23.14.49 # jhMikeS, bertrik: Actually, when setting the DCDC15 and ISINK1 registers in the right order, the display doesn't dim. But the noise is still there anyway. 23.15.01 # At least, I suppose, it's only dropping it back to '03 and not jumping into the future like my sansa did, or dropping into the 80s as I've had past devices do.. 23.15.04 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 23.15.25 # bluefoxx: Maybe it's the RTC battery that's dead 23.15.34 # sideral: Does it have one then 23.15.39 # +? 23.15.44 # it doesn't have one 23.15.50 # That'd do it then... 23.16.21 # there is a few seconds of power for the RTC at most 23.17.05 # bertrik: I don't know whether it has an RTC battery, that was just a guess 23.17.58 # * jhMikeS thinks he just made a whole build and forgot the logf enable :\ 23.18.15 # I don't suppose that natively 4K sector-based disks are supported properly yet either :\ 23.18.53 # jhMikeS: you're not the first person to run into this. I should have put an #error for this case into my patch :) 23.18.55 # bluefoxx: well, the ATA spec says those have to emulate 512 byte sectors if needed 23.19.04 # So if they're spec compliant, they will work 23.19.13 # sideral: yeah! good idea...too late lol :) 23.19.39 # thought that was only for reads 23.19.49 # bluefoxx: of course, with the picky boot code on that particular player, who knows? 23.20.23 # or buy a proper drive! 23.21.04 # I outgrew my original 30GB drive and snagged http://goo.gl/2Zoar on the cheap, but went through a nice long three days of hell trying to get it to cooperate. 23.21.06 # bertrik, jhMikeS: My next theory for the bg noise is a flaky SD power. I've already tried disabling the initialization of SD low power mode in the SD driver, but it didn't help :( 23.22.04 # The as353x Linux patch hasn't been very helpful either for finding power-related settings (yet) 23.22.14 # It finally works, but now I can barely get a half MB/s write to it 23.22.16 # maybe somethings just clocked too fast 23.22.26 Quit TheSeven (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.22.50 # jhMikeS: What could it be? 23.22.56 # I hope it isn't something as stupid as just leaving some analog input to the codec enabled 23.22.59 # i2c perhaps? 23.23.28 # bertrik: he said he checked that one 23.23.30 # bertrik: No, I've exhaustively tested all mixer and dac settings 23.24.04 # There are indeed some funny things, but none of them affect the bg noise 23.25.04 # For example, there's a bug that line-in isn't muted until the first time the radio has been turned on and off :) 23.26.20 # oh nice 23.26.58 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 23.27.11 # For a list of things I tried, see FS#11915 23.28.31 # jhMikeS: I don't know enough about the platform yet to play with the clock settings 23.28.44 # I've never had my clipv1 be noisy again except after one time, which might have been either the realease of daily at the time I installed it 23.29.02 Quit esperegu_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.29.03 # *release or daily 23.29.36 # jhMikeS: Surely you have an entry in your experiments log book? ;) 23.29.36 # sparkfun.com sells an "sd sniffer" which allows you to more easily probe the sd card pins, maybe we should get one of those to verify clocks/timing 23.29.42 # I figure if I can get it to come back, then maybe it say what gets rid of it 23.29.50 # sideral: oh, surely :) 23.29.56 # OSHRLY 23.31.05 # bertrik: That sounds like a task for someone else. I'm a software guy :) 23.32.48 # jhMikeS: bisect with daily builds? 23.33.08 # or with git -- probably easier 23.33.53 # I'll bet there's a file or two with the date on the flash 23.35.19 # BTW, I've actually been thinking about having Rockbox append the date and its version number to a file each time it starts up, precisely for the purpose of reconstructing what I've been running 23.36.04 # my rbinstall has a .zip from 1/24/11 23.36.05 # And yes, FS#11880 (Include git commit ID in version string) would help with that 23.36.59 # You mean you had the bg noise on a ClipV1 just one month ago? 23.37.44 # I had it once and because I remember being a quite ticked off going "wtf"? now, nada. :\ 23.38.26 # but yeah, that's when it happened 23.38.47 # * sideral checks the commit log 23.39.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.40.12 # aright, I'll try it again with reset settings 23.42.41 # Remember that the noise being audible can depend on which headphones you use 23.43.35 Quit komputes (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.43.39 # same ones I always do 23.47.50 Quit bertrik (Quit: :tiuQ) 23.50.45 Quit Topy44 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.50.57 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@89.204.137.150) 23.52.57 # it's not doing it now either. it seemed it might have been when the battery level was getting low-ish (< 1/3 or so). 23.53.16 # hmm 23.53.56 # I don't think I've let it drop like that since 23.54.08 Part domonoky 23.54.27 # r29115 is a change in the vicinity of Jan 24 that has to do with frequencies. Perhaps that one triggered or cured your noise problem? 23.54.42 # easy enough to try that anyway 23.54.51 # ah no, that's for gigabeat 23.55.13 # adding the manual frequency screen? 23.56.33 # you mean that change I mentioned? no, that had to do with boost calculation for multifrequency CPUs 23.56.50 # ah, yes, I added that 23.57.10 # can the hw info frequency screen be used to fiddle with the frequencies? 23.58.05 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@f053154036.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.58.05 Quit bluebrother (Changing host) 23.58.05 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 23.58.50 # it just displays the register settings