--- Log for 23.02.111 Server: holmes.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 2 hours and 28 minutes ago 00.04.18 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (~rmenes@c-68-36-232-73.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 00.04.18 Quit LambdaCalculus37 (Changing host) 00.04.18 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (~rmenes@rockbox/staff/LambdaCalculus37) 00.05.37 Quit {phoenix} (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.09.16 # * jhMikeS wonders if it matters anyway since the handles have to be added for remaining data to increase 00.10.11 Join dockimble [0] (~dockimble@77.227.1.24) 00.13.38 Join JdGordon1 [0] (~jonno@vl10.gw.ok-labs.com) 00.13.42 Quit JdGordon1 (Changing host) 00.13.42 Join JdGordon1 [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 00.14.11 Part domonoky 00.15.12 # New commit by 03rmenes (r29382): Enable installation for the GoGear HDD16x0 and HDD63x0. 00.15.46 # That last commit was for Rockbox utility. :) 00.19.06 # r29382 build result: All green 00.24.34 Quit scorche|sh (Changing host) 00.24.34 Join scorche|sh [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 00.29.25 # AlexP: Llorean: Torne: i am around now if there is something in particular that needs to be asked.. 00.30.43 # scorche: What needs to be done so that someone (presumably AlexP) can add membergroups? Also, do the permissions relating to Karma (I think under membergroup permissions) allow positive karma mods only, and can membergroups be created to be applied based on Karma rather than post count? 00.31.48 Quit mshathlonxp (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.32.01 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 00.34.30 # Llorean: i dont think membergroups can be based off of karma - it seems that positive karma mods only is possible per "Whether or not groups of members can smite others is controlled by a permission." 00.34.58 # * scorche wonders why we are interested in karma 00.35.25 # scorche: Thinking of removing postcount, but it might be nice to have a badge for people who've been around / been helpful 00.35.48 # If only positive karma is allowed, and the badge were awarded at a small amount (+5 or so) it'd make a relatively easy way to hand it out without having to have someone tasked to it constantly 00.36.04 # Basically anyone who's even moderately helpful soon automatically graduates into a "not a new member" status of whatever we call it. 00.36.08 # Llorean: it would be nice to remove post count and just have something similar to how, say, the ubuntu forums display "rank" 00.36.23 # Looks like there may be mods for karma based membergroups 00.36.26 # How does Ubuntu handle it? 00.36.37 # jhMikeS: hm strange 00.37.10 # button_read_device is called a few couple times, but the queue_post() doesn't come through 00.37.12 # how do i put a local label in a arm macro? 00.37.18 # well, they show the post count too, but they have an image of beans, coffee drinks, etc - i just pulled up a random thread here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1588889 00.37.35 # kugel: you mean no message is posted? 00.37.38 # Llorean: i suppose the question i should be asking is what is the problem we are trying to solve by doing this? 00.38.00 # jhMikeS: if I wait few ms after calling main, then button_read_device is called a few times. but then even waiting a further 500ms isn't sufficient for the queue_post 00.38.28 # waiting 1000ms works 00.38.53 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.53=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 00.39.09 # scorche: Someone asked why it was enabled in the first place, and I told him that back when I was first reorganizing things I felt it should stay because to a minor degree, it can help indicate when someone might be more likely to know things (because they've been active) but that it might be nice to have some better way of determining active/helpful people 00.39.37 # And we started thinking in the direction of Karma, since being able to flag posts as "helpful" would do a similar job, but better, and "unhelpful" flags don't accomplish anything useful, so we could leave that aspect out entirely 00.39.56 # So rather than "post count" we rank on "useful post count" 00.40.15 # jhMikeS: yes, I don'T see my MEDIA_BUTTON_PLAYPAUSE handled in default_event_handler() 00.40.56 # kugel: so the the "interrupt" isn't happening unless you wait long enough? 00.41.35 # it is happening (queue_post is called), the message must get dropped somewhere if I don't wait long enough before even posting it 00.42.01 # is the queue overflowing? 00.42.44 # hopefully not. is that likely/expected at startup? 00.43.36 # could happen at startup if buttons aren't read for long enough 00.45.40 # problem is, this sounds like the opposite problem... 00.45.55 # what would be on the queue in this state? 00.46.12 # it should have nothing (except perhaps BUTTON_NONE) IIUC 00.46.20 # in what state? 00.46.46 # startup 00.47.01 Quit ender` (Quit: /[,\(\s]?#1(s)(\s+-?\d+(?{}\.\d+)?\s+-?\d+(?{}\.\d+)?\s+-?\d+(?{}\.\d+)?\s+-?\d+(?{}\.\d+)?\s+-?\d+(?{}\.\d+)?\s+-?\d+(?{}\.\d+)?)(\s+-?\d+(?{}\.\d+)?\s+-?\d+(?{}\.\d+)?)+(\)?=|\s|$)/) 00.47.03 # once the tick starts calling button_read_device then it can start posting events 00.47.08 # it probably takes a while until something calls button_get() but it shouldn't lose what's on the queue 00.47.39 # that doesn't seem to work here 00.48.55 # make it with the KERNEL_ASSERT enabled, it should tell if the queue overflows 00.49.52 # I can't think of any other usual reason a queue_post could lose message 00.52.02 # jhMikeS: I build with KERNEL_ASSERT, apparently. I'm using a -DDEBUG build 00.52.28 # some other call clearing out messages? 00.53.08 # if it's not an overflow, then they should be there 00.56.39 # jhMikeS: oh indeed, something is calling button_clear_queue() 00.56.47 Quit advcomp2019_ (Changing host) 00.56.47 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (~advcomp20@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 00.59.50 # jhMikeS: hah, main.c, a blatant call to it :) it's only for hosted platforms, I guess it can be removed 01.02.13 # * jhMikeS suspected such 01.02.39 # works alright now 01.02.45 # was amiconn talking about regular targets or just the hosted? 01.03.37 Quit stripwax (Quit: http://miranda-im.org) 01.05.19 # * jhMikeS can't seem to queue resume from the logo on a native build 01.05.48 # he was talking about native 01.07.17 # does a native build have a button_queue_clear elsewhere only for that? 01.07.43 # I didn't see one, and queue resume worked when I tried a few minutes ago 01.07.56 # my build wasn't the latest but not too out of date either 01.13.22 # hmmm...seems to not work on gigabeats but fuzev2 and e200 are fine :\ 01.14.16 # H10 does it 01.14.49 Quit dockimble (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.18.47 Part toffe82 01.20.24 Quit stephen___ (Quit: Leaving) 01.23.38 Quit mystica555 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.35.01 # New commit by 03jethead71 (r29383): Gigabeat S: Smoother bootup. Don't do full drive reset at boot since it's not really a coldstart. Seems to work alright in both the bootloader and ... 01.35.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.36.56 Quit mudd1 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 01.38.39 # r29383 build result: All green 01.39.49 Join fyrestorm [0] (~nnscript@cpe-24-90-81-248.nyc.res.rr.com) 01.43.13 Quit user890104 () 01.43.27 # jhMikeS: HD vs. flash targets? 01.44.01 # though the H10 doesn't fit 01.45.43 # Fit into what, my shoe? H10 queued the resume just fine too. 01.46.39 # into the theory that flash targets are fine and HD ones are not 01.47.18 # yeah but H10 _does it_ and flash targets don't do it 01.48.41 # * pixelma gives up 01.48.45 # nothing works on the beast, the beast works on *it* 01.48.59 # first time I heard you say that :) 01.49.36 # huh, it might help to specify "it" 01.53.57 # the "*it*" is the queued resume from the logo-- pressing the resume button before reaching the main menu and having it resume (and what amiconn said no longer worked) 01.56.01 # the 2nd "it" being "the player under test", of which a few were checked, in previous remarks. 02.03.05 Join [Saint] [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.194) 02.07.25 Quit MethoS- (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.07.53 Join sptruse [0] (~4c7d0cd1@giant.haxx.se) 02.09.40 # can i be added to the WikiUsersGroup? 02.10.57 # New commit by 03kugel (r29384): Android: ... 02.11.21 # anybody out there? 02.11.21 Quit DerPapst1 (Quit: Leaving.) 02.12.54 # New commit by 03rmenes (r29385): Rockbox Utility: Move the USB ID for the HDD16x0 into the right place. 02.13.46 # i haz question 02.14.22 # bluebroth3r: Think we should release a new Rockbox Utility version soon? 02.14.39 # r29384 build result: All green 02.17.49 Quit fyrestorm (Quit: lamers envy me like they envy bill g -- main boot xp, just the way it should be!) 02.18.23 # r29385 build result: All green 02.20.12 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 02.28.29 Quit sptruse (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 02.32.55 Join Roasted [0] (~jason@unaffiliated/roasted) 02.33.54 # Hey guys. Ever since I installed Rockbox on my mp3 player, if I go into regular mode on my Sandisk Sansa Fuze, I see about 3 of the 80 bands I have listed. Is it expected that if you install Rockbox, you SHOULDNT be using regular mode for anything? Because Rockbox mode works fine. However, I'm not sure if I want to use it, because regular mode shows onboard memory + micro sd card items in the SAME batch. Rockbox splits it. :( 02.35.24 # if you use the database, the the onboard and SD files won't be split like in the directory browser 02.35.37 # hm, the database... 02.35.58 # will I have to store the files differently? 02.36.06 # or will I do everything as I did before? 02.38.11 Quit Battousai (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 02.38.33 # the manual should explain how to you use the database. you shouldn't have to do anything special 02.38.36 # hm I think I got a hold of it now. just rebooting it. 02.38.51 # krazykit, question unrelated to rockbox itself. What media player do you use for managing your portable devices? 02.39.09 # I'm having quite a time finding one that works without me obtaining a headache. I seem to have different, but small issues on all different players. 02.39.24 Join Battousai [0] (~bryan@gentoo/developer/battousai) 02.45.06 Join t0rc [0] (~t0rc@unaffiliated/t0rc/x-5233201) 02.50.03 # Roasted, i don't use any special software. 02.54.05 Quit GeekShadow (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 02.56.31 Join user890104 [0] (~Venci@6bez10.info) 03.00.52 Quit Roasted (Quit: Leaving) 03.13.56 Join Roasted [0] (~jason@unaffiliated/roasted) 03.14.04 # oh wow. I need my actual songs to be ID tagged for the DB to see them? 03.14.13 # It won't just list what it finds there but insteads labels each one as "untagged" 03.15.30 Quit Rob2223 (Quit: Rob2223) 03.21.53 Join L-Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@168.16.226.187) 03.25.06 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Thankfully, the friend who had the busted laptop is here, he says I can use its old disk ....) 03.26.55 # Roasted, well, the whole point of the database is to use the metadata, so yes. 03.27.32 # yeah I have a lot of homework ahead of me 03.27.35 # I only ever used artist tags 03.27.45 # not thinking it's worth it... the last system worked fine... thanks though 03.32.59 Join JdGord [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 03.35.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.38.54 # also, is music - scan removable media supposed to do anything? cause it doesn't appear to do much of anything on my end. 03.39.20 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@168.16.226.187) 03.39.46 # Hmmm, strange... my HDD1630 isn't being seen by OS X when I hook it via USB while in Rockbox. 03.39.56 # oh wow 03.39.58 # wrong chat, lol 03.40.00 # ignore the last msg 03.41.20 Quit Judas_PhD (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 03.54.42 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 04.01.19 Quit t0rc (Quit: Give someone code, help them with one project. 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Every rockbox version so far basically becomes unusable when plugging it in using any options 06.15.11 # probably not, if it doesn't work, its usually because the device uses some protocol thats not yet reverse engineered 06.28.23 Quit panni_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.29.29 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-178-203-73-7.unitymediagroup.de) 06.35.36 Quit LambdaCalculus37 (Quit: bed) 06.52.34 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 06.57.20 Quit kronflux (Quit: Leaving) 07.18.44 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@145.116.15.244) 07.27.29 Quit L-Strife89 (Quit: Packing up.) 07.32.53 Quit vedos (Remote host closed the connection) 07.33.25 Join vedos [0] (~draft@ihku.org) 07.35.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.39.23 Quit vedos (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 07.41.14 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 07.42.21 Join vedos [0] (~draft@ihku.org) 07.43.47 # jhMikeS: I've been talking about native targets only. 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Does anyone else think this is a good idea? 10.31.42 # markun: sounds sensible, is the setting in 0.1dB steps (centibels(?))? 10.32.37 # n1s: I had that at first, but changed it to 0.5 now. I don't know what the max resolution of most audio hardware is. 10.35.51 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@dslb-088-069-137-097.pools.arcor-ip.net) 10.39.15 # n1s: I only changed it for the as3514 in my clip+ and apperently the smallest steps are 1.5dB .. 10.46.57 # ah, maybe the stepsize should be depending on the capability of the hw then, i just thought 1dB steps would be a bit coarse 10.51.29 # Actually it didn't sound too bad with 1dB steps. I will do some more testing. 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Isn't it more normal/useful to measure balance in terms of a percentage? 13.06.55 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust964.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 13.17.13 Join mshathlonxp [0] (~mshathlon@5acba02c.bb.sky.com) 13.24.20 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:7d0:0:f9af:feed:feed:feed:feed) 13.25.54 # linuxstb: I made that change after talking to someone who had a few dB less hearing in one ear. 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What is your wiki user name? 14.31.32 # mouren: ^ 14.31.37 # TomaszCetnarowski 14.34.14 Quit guymann (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 14.37.30 # you actually should be allowed to edit now but it looks like your registration isn't finished completely - it seems to be broken since a recent wiki software update. I'm trying to find out if there's a way to help you from my side 14.38.13 # [Saint]: what was it - creating the user name page by hand? 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Codec simply follows commands and doesn't concern itself with audio state. 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It seems it only compiles correctly on targets without MPEG-player - or am I seeing wrong? 17.34.22 # You're looking at the delta table 17.35.22 # so, the problem is on my code modifications? it's strange because i never touched the playback nor MPEG player codes. 17.35.29 Join milk [0] (~milk@94-193-93-226.zone7.bethere.co.uk) 17.35.53 # it compiled fine r29380 yesterday. 17.35.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.37.20 # Either that or your build directory is messed up 17.37.47 # Did you re-run configure without make clean first? 17.38.06 # I just made a "make reconf" before compiling this, because yesterday it warned me to do so. i have done make reconf many times without problems. 17.38.08 # no i didn't re-run configure 17.38.17 # perhaps that's the problem. 17.38.19 # you have to make clean because the dependencies will be wrong after moving files 17.38.57 # from r29380 to 29387 any files were moved? 17.39.41 # I moved libmpeg2 files to a subdir in mpegplayer which requires a clean build or mpegplayer won't make 17.40.20 # r29381 17.45.26 Join Strife89TX [0] (~cstrife89@207.144.201.128) 17.47.41 # I did make clean && make reconf && make and now I'm waiting. 17.49.13 Join eGen [0] (generat0r@gate.mmdecin.cz) 17.49.14 Quit eGen_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.52.14 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 17.53.55 # now it compiled. 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You set a duration in which the volume needs to below the set threshold to make sure it doesn't trigger on each and every peak 20.54.06 # yeah, I started to think similarly 20.54.06 Join parafin [0] (parafin@paraf.in) 20.54.29 # looks like there's no better way than learning rockbox than by translating it :) 20.54.41 Join mystica555_ [0] (~mike@m452636d0.tmodns.net) 20.56.00 Quit milk (Remote host closed the connection) 20.56.34 # pixelma: I guess it hasn't been written with potential scrolling in mind. it doesn't scroll on my phone 20.57.22 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@law085.wlan.law.upenn.edu) 20.59.10 # possibly - and it's not a very big problem as it fits in portrait mode on my phone too. A fix would be nice for correctness I think though 20.59.41 # ping dionoea about the widget :) 21.02.58 Join antil33t| [0] (antil33t@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 21.02.58 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.03.34 Quit Sochiro (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 21.04.33 # AlexP: i did the things i was invloved in now :) 21.12.01 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 21.19.08 # kugel: hi. Sorry, I haven't had a look yet :/ I'll give it a try in a few minutes 21.22.22 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 21.23.47 # kugel: pong. I'm on the phone, will get back to you soon 21.28.42 # kugel: Ah cool :) your latest commit is awesome! 21.34.56 # dionoea: it is? 21.35.31 # ah yea, you probably mean the second point 21.35.51 # indeed 21.36.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.37.36 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 21.38.08 Join Stephen___ [0] (~S@86.45.50.21) 21.38.19 Join gbl08ma [0] (~gbl08ma@195-23-182-233.net.novis.pt) 21.38.38 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: Bye ;)) 21.41.50 # * TheSeven is experiencing some rather nasty playback/buffering oddities today 21.42.09 # some might be coming from HDD/FAT driver problems, but some others certainly can't, and are probably present in 3.8RC as well 21.43.05 # i have a ~30 minute track, which can be fully buffered into RAM, and set the repeat mode to "one" 21.43.51 # it rarely ever survives two iterations of it before there is either a glitch, dropout, random skip or even kernel lockup 21.44.57 # and also drive spinup/down seems to be errativ 21.45.00 # erratic* 21.45.23 # perhaps it has something to do with FS#11863? just suggesting... does it also happen when playing shorter tracks (4~5 mins)? 21.45.37 # and only while in "repeat one" mode? 21.45.43 # a spindown between each track being buffered, but a spinup on things like opening the WPS context menu or browsing through folders, even though dircache is enabled 21.46.29 # gbl08ma: playing several smaller tracks of an album seems to work comparatively well, but actively skipping around causes lots of trouble, which might be coming from the fat/storage layer though 21.46.45 # TheSeven: I don't think the playback system is smart enough to reuse that same RAM buffer over and over without rebuffering 21.47.00 # oh, and things like changing the volume sometimes seem to cause disk spinups 21.47.07 # something can't be quite right with that 21.47.18 # well it looks like it has everything to do with HDD driver, it doesn't match much with the bug I suggested. 21.47.19 # gevaerts: it definitely isn't 21.47.53 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@168.16.226.187) 21.47.59 # gevaerts: I happened to be in the buffering debug screen while one of the fuckups happened, and saw that at the beginning of one playback iteration, it had like ~2MB useful of ~30MB buffered 21.48.30 # that then ran down until near-zero, spun up the drive, skipped back to the beginning of the track, and rebuffered it multiple times, until the buffer was full 21.48.44 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 21.49.06 # like a minute after that (without me touching anything) the kernel froze, and audio output started looping the last DMA chunk 21.49.22 # (which is the expected behavior if DMA IRQs aren't handled any more) 21.49.30 # "Repeat one" just buffers the same track again and again, like it would handle "repeat all" with a one-track playlist 21.49.45 # I wonder sometimes whether we should unit-test stuff in rockbox 21.50.10 # also skipping between is very sluggish, seems like the PCM buffer has to run out before anything happens or something 21.50.23 # Crossfade enabled? 21.50.31 # nope 21.50.51 # kugel: you were getting the stop button all the time right? 21.51.11 # and also there is some weird behavior with playback jumping into the middle of tracks sometimes, but that might actually be one of sideral's features 21.51.15 # what do you mean? 21.51.27 # kugel: in the KeyEvent. 21.51.34 # well not stop button but stop event 21.51.43 # or keycode (or whatever) 21.52.04 # any idea why navigating through the directory tree always spins up the drive? (and locks up the gui until the drive is accessible) 21.52.46 # dionoea: I think it was prev in some other combination 21.53.10 # I'm getting next 21.53.18 # TheSeven: this is strange since the browser reads the directory once and cache the result iirc 21.53.19 # anyway, whatever the exact button was, it was always the same 21.53.32 # hum, in the logs: 22:44 < kugel> no, the keycode is wrong (always stop button) 21.53.53 # pamaury: even going back to the parent directory with dircache enabled spins up the disk 21.54.19 # hum, this is really strange, that defeats the whoel purpose of dircache :) 21.54.25 # dionoea: yea, but with a (slightly) different code I got some other button 21.54.32 # ah ok 21.54.48 # I couldn't spot a pattern 21.55.46 # weird. I'm still getting next although i removed all references to KEYCODE_MEDIA* in the source. 21.56.20 Quit mystica555 (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 21.56.22 # arrrrrr... even scrolling in a list spins up the drive! 21.56.32 # ideas? 21.56.43 Quit mystica555_ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 21.56.53 # I'm looking at it but that could be anything 21.56.53 # dionoea: next for all buttons you press? 21.56.59 # yes 21.57.40 # I thought it perhaps has something to do with the time events are instantiated in 21.57.49 # but afaik, the list is displayed using the list gui control, but created once, so scrolling shouldn't do anything ! 21.58.30 # the only thing i could imagine would be storage idle notifys being spammed all around, and the spinups then being caused by the settings layer 21.58.44 # all are created at the same time, at widget update time, not at button press time. perhaps the system confuses the keyevents 21.59.33 # I didn't see a possibility to make it create them at button press time 22.01.23 # I don't think that you can. PendingIntents are only created at layout creation time as far as I can tell 22.01.45 # TheSeven: voice enabled? Although it still shouldn't spin up the drive with dircache enabled I think 22.02.37 # I keep getting data aborts when i goto the database page 22.02.44 # on 3.8RC 22.04.46 # pixelma: nope 22.05.25 # * Strife89 throws out http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,27302.0.html to Fuze enthusiasts. 22.07.02 # TheSeven: just stumbled on this in apps/tree.c: 22.07.03 Join casainho [0] (~chatzilla@bl20-155-152.dsl.telepac.pt) 22.07.10 # Dreamxtreme: which target? Have you checked the filesystem? 22.07.11 # if (button && !IS_SYSEVENT(button)) 22.07.12 # storage_spin(); 22.07.12 # no idea what it means ;) 22.07.28 # that means something nasty :/ 22.07.43 # gevaerts Ipod video 22.08.06 # and before 3.8RC it was fine 22.08.08 # pamaury: hello :-) -- how is going imx233 port? 22.08.51 # pamaury: indeed, storage_spin() is called for every step of clickwheel movement in file browsers 22.08.58 # any idea what this is good for? 22.09.08 # casainho: I've progressed a bit in the fuze+ disassembly but to be honest I've been quite busy. However, I'm in the process of buying a fuze+ so it will motivate me :) And you ? 22.09.13 # kugel: could it be due to the (KeyEvent) cast ? (it seems to work fine when you use it after creating the intent in the widget code but you never know) 22.09.28 # gevaerts: what's the exact semantics of storage_spin()? 22.09.31 # TheSeven: I did the hard job: why how :) Now you need to find why ? 22.09.35 # TheSeven: no idea 22.09.49 # is there any documentation on that kind of thing? 22.09.55 # pamaury: I just stoped, because I don't have enough knowledge to develop bootloader for imx233. 22.10.07 # also storage_spindown vs. storage_close? 22.10.07 # what does do function "Recursively Insert Directories" ? 22.10.10 # pamaury: I am beginner in firmware 22.11.02 # hm, judging from other storage drivers, ata_spin is intended to reset the idle timeout, but not actually spin the drive if it isn't spinning yet 22.11.10 # very clever naming :/ 22.11.24 # casainho: starting with a bootloader is indeed quite a task :) Hopefully, in the case of the fuze+, we can reuse the bootloader of the OF, which does the memory init for example 22.11.57 # pamaury: and, I were told that Adafruit Industries (Lady Ada) will develop and sell an OpenSource DAP. They already sell a Chubmy Hacker board with imx233, I hope they use imx233 for their OpenSource DAP ;-) 22.12.07 # so it seems to be like this: 22.12.13 # ata_spindown: set spindown timeout 22.12.13 # mshathlonxp: If you add a directory to a playlist then it will also add all subdirectories (and their subdirectories etc.) 22.12.39 # ata_sleep: schedule an asynchronous spindown 22.12.50 # pamaury: my problem now is the imx233 tools to make a SB file... I can't make a SB file from Rockbox ELF file :-( 22.12.53 # ata_sleepnow: synchronously spin down, but also call the idle callbacks before 22.12.56 # very nice naming ;) So I didn't slove you problem 22.13.09 # ata_spin: reset the idle timeout, but don't actually spin up 22.13.59 # casainho: you need the elftosb tool I guess, but it can expect a precise layout. I already wrote a "sbtoelf" for rockbox, but I plan to write a custom "elftosb" too because relying on closed source code is bad 22.15.07 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 22.15.41 # TheSeven: so this code means to reset the idle timeout ? 22.23.08 # bertrik: I've wanted (and I think I proposed as a GSOC project one year) a way to do testing of the buffering code on PC via an external script of operations (e.g. start track 1, skip 10 seconds, enqueue playlist, ...) 22.23.21 # pamaury: apparently yes 22.23.36 # it wants to keep the disk spinning if it's spinning, but not spin it up if it isn't spinning 22.23.56 # i've fixed the interpretation of that function in my driver now, let's see if things get better 22.24.15 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 22.25.16 # with a bit of logging in pictureflow, it seems it reads pfraw files way too often. specifically, seems to want to reload the same ones over and over in some cases. i'll dig in but it certainly could explain why it seems dog slow on ipod video 22.25.36 # woah, rockbox is way more responsive now 22.26.10 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@89.204.137.135) 22.26.13 # TheSeven: so the problem was that you misinterpretation of the names ? 22.26.16 # pamaury: I don't have knowledge to understand why closed source elftosb tool doesn't work with Rockbox bootloader ELF file... at least, that Opensource version you plan to wrote, I would be able to try understand the sources or even ask help to you ;-) 22.26.43 # saratoga: Fixin' to post a reply for the friend; all he has for Net access at the moment is a PS3. 22.26.44 # casainho: you have tried the closed source one but it didn't work ? 22.26.46 # Here 22.26.55 # 's hoping it really is just a loose cable 22.27.09 # pamaury: yes 22.27.19 # Strife89: i'd carefully open the player and see if the ribbon fell out of the connector 22.27.24 # pamaury, TheSeven: The storage_spin() for button presses isn't nasty at all. It is deliberate and implements desirable behaviour 22.27.31 # be aware though that if you pull the ribbon out by accident you can rip it very easily 22.27.43 # and its very hard to get back in place (i had to use tweasers) 22.27.48 # amiconn: it's actually the function name that's nasty, as it leads to severe misinterpretations 22.27.48 # I think there is a verbose option (-v) which allows you to see what elftosb does (a little bit) but the problem could be pretty much anywhere 22.27.58 # pamaury: hey, it works with costum code generated from a Makefile, example code from Chumby, blink LED code 22.28.01 # It keeps the disk spinning if it already is spinning as long as the user keeps mashing buttons 22.28.14 # How so? 22.28.31 # storage_spin suggests that it spins up the disk if it isn't spinning 22.29.02 # It doesn't say spinup... 22.29.19 # so there is basically no way to spin it up from "userland" code in preparation for something, without issueing an actual access? 22.29.33 # casainho: I don't follow, it works with an example code but not with your code ? 22.29.34 # nope 22.30.19 Quit Topy44 (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 22.30.23 # storage_spin() has been called like this (apart from renaming the first part from ata_ to storage_) for many years 22.30.39 Join Rob2223 [0] (~Miranda@p4FFF2CFC.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.30.47 # pamaury: it works with my example blink LED code running from external SDRAM (code borrow from Chumby) BUT it don't work with the same code as compiled to be Rockbox bootloader 22.31.25 # pamaury: elftosb gives some error while trying to create sb file, using Rockbox bootloader elf file 22.31.44 Nick T44 is now known as Topy44 (~Topy44@89.204.137.135) 22.31.57 # casainho: can you paste those errors on pastebin or something ? 22.32.49 # perhaps "storage_cont_spin" would be more clear to someone unfamiliar with the code? 22.33.25 # we don't want clear naming ! unclear naming rules !!!! ;) 22.33.46 # * amiconn dislikes functions_which_bear_their_entire_description_as_part_of_their_name(void) 22.34.07 # its just 5 extra characters 22.34.16 # not too ridiculously java-like IMO 22.34.34 # storage_keep_spinning 22.34.43 # storage_rtfm_1() ;) 22.34.47 # ha 22.35.10 # kugel: back (finally) 22.35.29 # kugel: ping 22.39.26 Join nirv [0] (~dr3000@c-75-72-147-98.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) 22.40.00 # kugel: fixed it! 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Or you are watching my repo and found out about by new pet project I just commited a minute ago... 23.31.18 Quit antil33t| (*.net *.split) 23.31.18 Quit factor (*.net *.split) 23.31.18 Quit ender` (*.net *.split) 23.31.19 Quit liar (*.net *.split) 23.31.19 Quit esperegu_ (*.net *.split) 23.31.19 Quit Kitar|st (*.net *.split) 23.31.19 Quit [fred] (*.net *.split) 23.31.19 Quit pikytcus (*.net *.split) 23.31.20 Quit scorche|sh (*.net *.split) 23.31.20 Quit jae (*.net *.split) 23.31.20 Quit 5EXAB5KWW (*.net *.split) 23.31.20 Quit Kuitsi (*.net *.split) 23.31.27 # kugel_: ...which is not true for maemo scratchbox 23.31.44 # * amiconn certainly isn't watching any git repo 23.31.48 Join scorche|sh [0] (~scorche@squisch.net) 23.31.53 # amiconn: good :) 23.31.59 Nick ender is now known as ender` (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 23.32.05 # amiconn: I know 23.32.10 Join factor [0] (~factor@75.108.68.114) 23.32.33 Nick kugel_ is now known as kugel (~kugel@e178054138.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.32.34 # amiconn: I guess it won't make much of a speed difference, gcc and others are just a symlink in scratchbox 23.32.50 # kugel: Your implementation is quite modular already 23.32.52 # thomasjfox: it will 23.33.03 # thomasjfox: the point is that the resulting binaries won't be emulated 23.33.18 # thomasjfox: yea, I had maemo in my mind :) 23.33.22 Join CapsAdmin [0] (CapsAdmin@ti0143a340-dhcp0163.bb.online.no) 23.34.03 # * kugel still thinks the fast build would still to not build under scratchbox in the first place :) 23.34.34 # gevaerts: thanks, now I get it 23.34.41 # IIUC scratchbox is meant as a convinience environment to build stuff that's not cross compiling aware. that's not the case for us 23.34.45 # amiconn: Might be worth a try 23.35.27 # Everything is loop-mounted and symlinked in scratchbox. 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