--- Log for 05.03.111 Server: verne.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 6 hours and 1 minute ago 00.00.22 # wait, it says how to boot the original firmware in the manual? 00.00.34 # of course.. 00.00.51 # it has the ability to dual boot because of our bootloader 00.00.56 # so, it's in the manual 00.01.04 # which manual? my clip manual? 00.01.09 # no, the rockbox manual 00.01.12 # oh, hah 00.01.56 # is it a clip+ specific manual? is it on the wiki? 00.02.17 # you were linked to it just a few lines ago 00.02.31 # ahh, yes. 00.02.41 Join factor [0] (~factor@75.108.68.114) 00.02.48 # browse around from the link I pasted earlier, in general: http://www.rockbox.org/manual.shtml 00.06.00 # it works! 00.06.01 # thanks for the links 00.09.41 Quit soap (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 00.13.06 # i see 3.8 adds some FM work for ipod 2g 00.13.24 # what about adding support for Monster iCarPlay Wireless 200 (FM transmitter) for ipog 5g (Video)? 00.14.51 Join soap [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 00.19.19 Join [AndrewR] [0] (~andrewrot@d24-36-251-35.home1.cgocable.net) 00.19.32 # <[AndrewR]> Hello 00.21.18 # hi 00.21.38 # i'm going to go try the Monster iCarPlay Wireless 200 on 3.8 but I doubt it's been fixed 00.21.48 # I think it's time for me to learn how to program 00.23.25 # <[AndrewR]> hey all I made a video demoing the rockbox workout app I made 00.23.30 # <[AndrewR]> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6l3fqJK93I 00.29.25 # andrew, was it you that called me or some other guy before? 00.30.08 # <[AndrewR]> called you? like on the phone? 00.30.17 # i think you were too afraid to. you talk really slow in the video and you seem young. i wonder how slow you're going to be when you're all grandpa'd out 00.30.17 # <[AndrewR]> I haven't called anyone, but I have been in here a few times 00.30.42 # <[AndrewR]> hahaha 00.31.13 # you've got those vacuous eyes.mp3 00.31.33 # there was a recent study: the quicker you walk, the higher chance of you living longer 00.31.44 # you can hear the doppler effect when i pass people, dude. 00.32.02 # * gevaerts points to the topic 00.32.05 # When trying to compile something I get this error: http://pastebin.com/QZ0hinx2 00.32.50 # <[AndrewR]> Yep, all the ladies tell me I have varuous eyes :D 00.32.57 # i want to talk about the FM transmitter for the ipod 5g video and Rockbox but grandpa jones over here is posting videos of him grandpaing out 00.33.22 # froggyman: missing lang.h often means an unclean build directory 00.33.36 # AndrewR: congrats to your nice app 00.34.37 # was that your boyfriend holding the camera? 00.34.39 # <[AndrewR]> thanks. hopefully someone will find it useful 00.34.49 # nirv: please stop it 00.35.09 # gevaerts, if i had a dick this is where i'd tell you to suck it 00.35.24 Mode "#rockbox +o gevaerts" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 00.35.28 # flush time 00.35.41 # flush me you goddamned panda fucker 00.35.52 # gevaerts, Okay. I'll clean that out 00.35.52 Mode "#rockbox +q *!~dr3000@c-75-72-147-98.hsd1.mn.comcast.net" by gevaerts (~fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 00.36.32 # gevaerts, Yep. that seems to have done the trick 00.36.58 # nirv: I'll voice you again in ten minutes. Please use that time to think 00.38.00 Part nirv 00.38.40 # gevaerts: you're way too nice 00.38.48 # ender|: tradition 00.39.10 # * ender| 'd probably look up that command that makes user leave the channel 00.41.02 # (it's very effective against trolls, since most don't realize why the channel window suddenly closed) 00.41.23 # ender|: I didn't do that 00.41.33 # I only set +q 00.41.36 # i know 00.41.49 # Oh, I see 00.42.39 # Is anyone familiar with the pandora build target? 00.42.47 # s/anyone/anyone here 00.43.26 Quit t0rc (Quit: Give someone code, help them with one project. Teach someone to code, help them rule the world.) 00.43.36 Mode "#rockbox -q *!~dr3000@c-75-72-147-98.hsd1.mn.comcast.net" by gevaerts (~fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 00.43.45 Mode "#rockbox -o gevaerts" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 00.48.10 Quit sideral (Quit: Leaving.) 00.48.39 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.53=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 00.48.41 # Froggyman: I'm also sorta waiting for some pandora experts. I want to see if we can use common SDL_PAD handlers in the plugins. 00.49.45 # deeice, Are you the dev that added the pandora as a build target? 00.50.20 # froggyman: I think that was thomasjfox 00.50.28 # no. I'm a complete amateur working on a zipit port. 00.50.57 # gevaerts, Okay. 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commit by 03thomasjfox (r29516): Add svn:keywords to firmware/target/hosted source files 16.32.32 # it hangs... 16.32.52 # http://pastebin.com/8iCTqn3Z 16.35.34 # r29516 build result: All green 16.38.13 # New commit by 03thomasjfox (r29517): Add rockbox copyright header with proper credits for kugel 16.41.21 # now it says [ERR] Original firmware unknown, please try an other version. Tested Clip+v1 versions are : 01.02.09, 01.02.13, 01.02.15 16.41.24 # New commit by 03thomasjfox (r29518): Add proper svn:mime-type 16.41.35 # i pointed it to the zip from the linked http://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Clip-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-Update-01-02-15/td-p/150227 16.41.39 # which is 01.02.15 16.41.47 # thomasjfox: ooops, thanks 16.41.53 # r29517 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (thomasjfox committed) 16.41.54 # u42p: You need to point it at the actual firmware file, not the zip 16.42.01 # New commit by 03thomasjfox (r29519): Remove solved issue 16.42.02 # u42p: You need to point it to the .bin, as it says 16.42.14 # kugel: Just doing some house keeping 16.42.22 # ah, that was easy to miss 16.42.23 # thanks! 16.42.28 # I should've added that header before submitting 16.44.24 # it installed successfully but the utility hangs again (window is gone but the shell is still "open"), can i safely quit that? 16.44.40 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@p5DD572B8.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.44.40 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 16.44.40 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 16.44.50 # nvm, it solved itself 16.45.21 # kugel: Noone else noticed, so I won't tell if you won't tell! 16.45.32 # r29518 build result: All green 16.46.03 # success! 16.46.09 # u42p: are you on a slow internet connection? 16.46.19 # bluebrother: yeah, it is saturate 16.46.47 # well, that could explains things. 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If you don't know, then I won't know either. 17.00.48 # I'm not the best one to ask tbh :) 17.01.12 # I think we sort of said that we should use them, but there wasn't a massive agreement 17.01.20 # Still, while we are they should be there I think 17.01.29 # Most files use them and the wiki says it, too 17.01.40 # So I'd say go ahead and fix them 17.02.12 # The "mass tagging" might change the order in some files from "Id Date" to "Date Id" 17.02.22 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 17.02.27 # I think we can live with that 17.02.45 # let me post the "svn diff" output 17.06.45 # AlexP: Mass tagging output: http://pastebin.com/TkhaHUKE 17.07.52 # thomasjfox: the wiki is from pre-git times :) 17.08.02 # I don't know the point of svn properties 17.08.50 # The project still uses SVN though, so git is kind of irrelevant 17.08.51 # Adding svn:mime-type for binary files is needed 17.09.27 # If you think the properties are pointless then fine (I have no opinion), but it shouldn't just be because the tool you chose to use makes it hard 17.09.46 # git doesn't support setting svn properties at all... 17.10.06 # I know 17.10.13 # maybe ask on the mailinglist about it? 17.10.18 # It has been 17.10.24 # And there was an argument 17.10.37 # What was the result? 17.10.46 # What do you think :) 17.10.53 # AlexP: I say I don't know the point, I didn't say there are pointless 17.11.09 # kugel: OK, but the rest of my point remains 17.11.21 # kugel: I have no idea if they have a use or nor 17.11.23 # *not 17.11.41 # who added them in the first place? 17.12.00 # thomasjfox: IIRC, there wasn't an overwhelming one - some people didn't want them (mainly as they use git :)), others did want them, most didn't say much 17.12.15 # IMO they should continue being used until there is a decision not to 17.12.36 # let's start the flame war on the mailinglist again ;) 17.13.06 # I don't want to commit this right now as it would affect too much of the code base 17.13.27 # This might be a good devcon thing 17.14.38 # AlexP: The switch to git? ;) 17.14.46 # haha :) 17.14.52 # I use git myself actually 17.15.15 # but that would be rather contentious :) 17.16.28 # Still might be a good thing for a real discussion 17.16.48 # So I'll do nothing for now 17.17.10 # yeah, it can of course go on the list 17.17.20 # Which I don't think exists yet for this years 17.17.25 # Nor does a location 17.20.28 # I still have some packaging related files on disc I'd like to commit 17.20.36 # I thought about packaging/pandora/* 17.20.45 # And later on a packaging/rpm/rockbox.spec file 17.21.03 # Would a "packaging" directory for distro specific files make sense? 17.22.13 # meego could share the same rpm .spec file I guess 17.29.31 # AlexP: Any opinion on that? 17.29.56 # kugel: Could the android files go into packaging/android or is it fixed at "/android"? 17.30.45 # kugel: ahh, the /android/src stuff probably won't fit in packaging/ 17.31.48 # thomasjfox: It sounds sensible, but I haven't really thought about it. 17.32.41 # svn supports moving files IIRC... been a while since I really used it 17.33.51 # okay, rereading the the ML discussion again the consensus seemed to be to drop keywords and for eol-style=LF 17.34.41 # git-svn handles svn:executable, and for svn:mime-type we can put a few lines into our .subversion/config 17.35.32 # it also came up to put a few notes onto UsingSVN/GitVersionControl which didn't happen 17.36.28 # thomasjfox: /android has both source code in it and can be used as a build directory, so I'm not sure about packaging 17.37.32 # kugel: Adding the "packaging" directory just for the pandora -looks- like overkill 17.37.58 # kugel: I really would like to move the debian/ directory in there. Still sucks it's not possible :) 17.37.58 # you can built the android apk in any build folder actually 17.38.27 # kugel: still packaging/ is not the correct dir for source code files 17.38.49 # kugel: could the source code be splitted and moved to firmware/target/hosted/android? 17.38.57 # (if that makes any sense) 17.39.06 # I wanted to keep the java parts separate 17.39.28 # firmware/target/hosted/android/java? 17.39.44 # our you don't want them in firmware/ at all? 17.41.10 # yes because object files get dropped into android/ if you use it as a build dir (and you need to if you use eclipse for editting the java parts) 17.41.42 # maybe "packaging" should be called "raaa"? 17.41.51 # "application" would be misleading with "apps" 17.42.12 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 17.45.20 Quit lixxus (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 17.46.03 # froggyman: Ehrm, I just saw you built a .pnd for the pandora 17.46.09 # froggyman: I have a working one, too 17.46.37 # froggyman: I didn't spread it yet as the SDL audio part has issues. You'll notice if you use it for some hours 17.47.11 # kugel: Ah, so I did misremember :) 17.48.24 Quit krazykit` (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 17.48.24 # thomasjfox: is pulseaudio available for pandora as a package or some sort? 17.48.53 # kugel: Nope, pulseaudio is not supported (yet?) 17.49.14 # kugel: Packaging is still a mess... 17.49.41 # kugel: In terms of "if you do a openembedded dist-upgrade you have to reflash the firmware" 17.49.52 # ugh 17.50.05 # Guess what I did when I unpackaged it :o) 17.50.25 Join krazykit [0] (~krazykit@99-126-205-52.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) 17.50.39 # Still I'd like to commit the my .pnd stuff 17.50.58 # So poeple don't reinvent the wheel / write broken packaging 18.01.30 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.01.39 Join antil33t [0] (antil33t@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 18.09.55 Quit esperegu (Read error: Operation timed out) 18.11.47 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@145.116.10.163) 18.19.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.26.01 # New commit by 03thomasjfox (r29520): RaaA: Add Pandora specific packaging files needed for .pnd creation ... 18.29.22 # r29520 build result: All green 18.35.01 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 18.42.59 Quit sasquatch (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2) 18.43.24 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@p4FF2DAF3.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.48.12 # New commit by 03kugel (r29521): Change the thread api a bit. ... 18.53.46 # r29521 build result: All green 18.57.55 Quit casainho (Remote host closed the connection) 19.05.09 Quit thomasjfox (Remote host closed the connection) 19.05.31 # New commit by 03kugel (r29522): Android: Support embedded albumart in the widget. ... 19.08.16 # * kugel is about to commit AA fonts 19.08.21 # are we just going to turn rockbox threads into pthreads? :\ 19.08.32 # :) 19.10.18 # r29522 build result: All green 19.10.50 # jhMikeS: would be fine for me :P 19.11.43 # * jhMikeS doesn't want to obey some else's API though. 19.16.31 # well, don't worry. that's not going to happen as long as kernel.c knows so much of the internals of thread.c 19.20.14 # so much? 19.22.13 Quit sideral (Quit: Leaving.) 19.29.29 Join deeice [0] (~deeice@ip72-192-53-133.ri.ri.cox.net) 19.35.29 # I did some searching, but didn't find anything solid. 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Oh dear. 20.30.03 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 20.38.46 Join user890104 [0] (~Venci@6bez10.info) 20.44.28 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-178-203-73-7.unitymediagroup.de) 20.51.40 Quit casainho (Remote host closed the connection) 20.57.59 # New commit by 03kugel (r29525): Add lcd_alpha_bitmap_part suitable for vertical stride 16bit lcd. ... 20.59.48 Join iq [0] (~iq@unaffiliated/iq) 21.05.26 Join freddyb [0] (~chatzilla@216.8.239.112.etczone.com) 21.07.00 # if anything, I'd say thread.c has more knowledge of kernel.c than I'd like 21.08.17 # r29525 build result: All green 21.08.36 Join enthdegree [0] (~enthdegre@cpe-024-211-171-023.nc.res.rr.com) 21.09.43 # New commit by 03kugel (r29526): Add viewport clipping to lcd_alpha_bitmap_part as lcd_mono_bitmap_part also has. 21.09.53 Join casainho [0] (~chatzilla@bl15-96-85.dsl.telepac.pt) 21.15.43 Join lixxus [0] (~Mehdi@94-193-44-17.zone7.bethere.co.uk) 21.15.53 # Kugel: You're the man. Thanks. 21.16.20 # thank you too! 21.17.15 # You're welcome. 21.20.09 # r29526 build result: All green 21.22.48 Quit bmbl (Quit: Verlassend) 21.27.55 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 21.30.26 Join vnl [0] (~slayer@cpc5-king10-2-0-cust73.perr.cable.virginmedia.com) 21.34.22 Quit esperegu (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.39.49 # is an AA font going to be the default for cabbie on color targets now? 21.43.33 # I wouldn't mind 21.44.30 Part lixxus 21.47.30 # I don't see why we couldn't, now that font_load isn't mindbogglingly slow for large fonts on ipodvideo :) 21.47.54 # New commit by 03kugel (r29527): Android: Fix black display after unzipping libmisc.so. 21.48.00 # though i still want to do dynamic fontbuffer sizing 21.48.05 # well, boottime 21.48.43 # ..though then that just makes me ponder being able to resize buffers without rebooting (but not without stopping playback) 21.49.09 # certainly possible 21.49.20 # we still have buflib-into-core as gsoc proposal 21.49.22 # just stop playback, by grabbing the audio buffer and restart yes 21.49.32 # jhMikeS: You may have to move other buffers though 21.49.45 # and if they contain internal pointers they would need some kind of callback to recreate the contents 21.50.08 # not intractable, tho 21.50.25 # of course. I suppose things need to be notified. It's terribly ad hoc right now. 21.50.39 # right now it doesn't keep track of buffer_allocs at all 21.50.56 # i've been pondering a gradual way to tweak that 21.51.05 # being able to see hte usage might be interesting 21.51.12 # especially if you can see what the actual occupancy of each allocated buffer is 21.51.24 # you can see for some buffers atm, but all in seperate places and not most of them 21.51.33 # you mean in general? playback itself should adjust though 21.51.55 # yeah, i'm not talking about changing file buffering 21.52.01 # just the static allocations that lots of things take at boot 21.52.13 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 21.52.26 # currently i don't think it even stops you calling buffer_alloc while playback is going :) 21.52.40 # playback master buffer contains other buffers like, PCM, MoB, etc. 21.52.55 # yeah 21.53.02 # Torne: in that case, playback will probably stop soon after :) 21.53.03 # there are a *lot* of buffer_allocs though 21.53.06 # gevaerts: indeed :) 21.53.10 # there are loads of small ones 21.53.11 # right, whoever uses buffer_alloc has to ensure that 21.53.14 # if you look around :) 21.53.37 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 21.54.25 # but yeah, a compacting allocator would be interesting i think 21.54.35 # a lot of those buffer allocations would actually be movable with not much effort 21.54.35 # I have looked around, but not for years and things were ok then, if still ad hoc. maybe that's what going on with playback. 21.54.40 # *in part 21.54.44 Quit mystica555 (Quit: Ekkusu Chatto) 21.55.03 # since a lot of them have no internal pointers and maybe only one external pointer 21.55.19 Join MarkTraceur [0] (~marktrace@cpe-76-174-115-122.socal.res.rr.com) 21.55.26 # uh oh, malloc subtley tries to make its way in again :) 21.55.42 # a compacting allocator would be fine, i think 21.56.09 # there's one in the codec lib isn't there? 21.56.24 # i dunno how buflib works to be honest ;) 21.56.49 # yo mean the MoB? 21.57.05 # r29527 build result: All green 21.57.24 # codec_*alloc doesn't do any compacting, it just advances a free pointer 21.57.47 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 21.57.47 # Torne: it's handle based and you need to get the data pointer from new after each yield 21.57.56 # kugel: Oh, right. 21.57.59 # vorbis is using something more advanced 21.58.00 # Yeah, I wasn't thinking that 21.58.05 # though that is one way to do it. 21.58.41 # I was thinking about just having buffers have a callback for when they are moved 21.58.41 # Torne: IIRC, that is. But I also think there was a talk to change it to a callback system which is called when the buffer moves 21.58.49 # Yeah :) 21.59.02 # For a lot of things they may only have to update a couple of external pointer 21.59.03 # * kugel was faster :P 21.59.08 # not on my server! :) 21.59.12 # hehe 21.59.14 # things which are complicated enough may just want to drop and reload their data 21.59.26 # this isn't something that would have to happen very often 21.59.35 # so it probably doesn't matter if it is slightly expensive 21.59.39 # well, compared to memmove() 21.59.40 # the audio buffering is strictly a queue, and handles are compacted by pushing them forward as far as possible, accounting for alignment and wrap restrictions 21.59.57 # jhMikeS: yah, I wasn't anticipating wanting to touch audio buffering 22.00.04 # That's a ring buffer and that works fine 22.00.20 # It's just things like wanting to be able to enlarge the font buffer, or whatever. 22.00.42 # Things that only hapen on configuration changes 22.00.46 # or after USB unplug 22.00.48 # or similar. 22.00.53 # Not things that happen during normal operation 22.01.46 # apps/codecs/lib/tlsf has a real allocator 22.02.26 # Yes, but real allocators suck for general use 22.02.37 # Well, unless they are very smart 22.02.49 # And very smart ones are quite big (check out the binsize for dlmalloc sometime) 22.03.21 # IIUC tlsf isn't very smart since it's trimmed for real-time alloc 22.03.24 # Yeah. 22.03.38 # dlmalloc is optimised for efficient memory usage, i.e. fragmentation avoidance 22.03.48 # But the source is probably 10-15 times longer 22.03.53 # and it's certainly not realtime :) 22.04.14 # it's the basis of the malloc in most OS's C library 22.04.56 # I just think we actually have sufficient info about what memory is used for in our system that we could do a decent compacting allocator without binsize going up much 22.05.04 # and it'd avoid pretty much all "reboot to change setting" situations 22.05.24 # afaik buflib compacts 22.05.38 # where is it? 22.05.50 # Unhelpful wrote it, he knows for sure 22.05.53 # oh there 22.06.01 # in the pluginlib, pf uses it for the slides 22.06.02 # Yeah that's using handles 22.06.13 # which means you have to reacquire the pointer every time you yield 22.06.33 # For most buffers in core that's probably not the best strategy 22.06.33 # Are there any anti-aliased fonts in the font pack yet? 22.06.37 # * jhMikeS hates this yield/not yield reliance everywhere 22.06.37 # because use is far more common than reallocation 22.07.21 # Strife89: no 22.07.25 # jhMikeS: relying on things not yielding is a feature :) 22.07.35 # Writing preemption-sfae code is way harder 22.07.40 # and bigger 22.07.43 # and slower :) 22.07.50 # Strife89: and it's unlikely that aaf will ever be in the same font pack as mono fonts 22.08.08 # not really, it creates complacent threading code and isn't much safer in practice 22.08.30 # It's not really about safety 22.08.47 # If you can get acceptable performance without preemption then it's basically guaranteed that cooperative multitasking code will be smaller and faster 22.08.52 # oh, it is. most the playback troubles come from the assumptions about it. 22.08.57 # kugel: Has anyone written anything on making one's own fonts? 22.09.14 # jhMikeS: well yes but people also make the same class of mistake in preemptable code.. 22.09.23 # Strife89: I updated CreateFonts 22.09.24 # go see how much code isn't actually threadsafe in the world :) 22.09.35 # I'm talking about code written by people who understand how to write safe code in either system 22.09.51 # I haven't had the experience that proper preemptible code really that much more complicated or harder to write 22.10.09 # It's not really harder 22.10.14 # But it is more complicated because you have to use locks :) 22.10.29 # The only reason to have preemption is if your latency is too bad without it 22.10.38 # Throughput is worse and code is larger and more complex 22.10.39 # meh, locks...sometimes. 22.10.45 # At best it's the same 22.10.48 # Yes, "sometimes" 22.10.58 # and the same is true of cooperative: most things don't need to think about it 22.11.16 # kugel: If I knew how to invoke convttf I'd be fine from here on, but ... :/ 22.11.22 # that's one thing I definitely hate is the latency of task switching, but few task switch calls would be needed 22.11.33 # Strife89: try convttf --help 22.11.38 # *fewer would be needed with preemption 22.11.46 # * kugel adds an example 22.11.56 # jhMikeS: how do you figure that? 22.12.01 # i'm pretty sure that's provably false :) 22.12.21 # it's certainly not true in general 22.12.27 # Torne: any unexpected yield in the code (you don't know where they'll show up in deep calls) is essentially a preemption 22.12.33 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r29528): Remove outdated and unmaintained wpseditor. ... 22.12.35 # why do you think so many high performance network servers are not multithreaded? :) 22.12.42 # kugel: convttf is located where? 22.12.53 # tools 22.12.57 # jhMikeS: You *should* know 22.12.59 # Torne: Because, all of all those yield calls for one. 22.13.01 # if you don't you are doing it wrong. 22.13.22 # i've spent a long time writing multithreaded code ;) 22.13.27 # secondly, things can be allowed to execute for extended periods 22.13.30 # including the more fun case of lockless preemptible code 22.13.36 # Weird 22.13.55 # that one is the one that's hard, but it's what you have to do to get high throughput and low latency 22.14.04 # lockess is fun, but alot of that won't work nicely here 22.14.06 # I updated my sources but convttf doesn't exist 22.14.29 # you'd be surprised, maybe :) 22.14.38 # It's unfortunately difficult on most of the processors we support :( 22.14.43 # Oh, fun. Only source code for it. 22.14.44 # it sucks without universal atomic primitives always available 22.14.46 # its much easier on ARM11 22.15.09 # ldrex, strex, yes 22.15.12 # aanyway. time to go do stuff. 22.15.41 # * jhMikeS still barks loudly in favor of preemption 22.18.08 # Strife89: it'll be compiled if you do a build (any build) 22.18.53 # Torne: buflib could be converted to callback, right? 22.19.40 # kugel: And then invoke it from the folder I compiled in? 22.19.58 # invoke it from anywhere you like 22.19.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.21.14 # Torne: btw, noone's doing anything wrong, what yields or doesn't is just not easily accounted for at this point. the issue is deeper than that. 22.21.20 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng090.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 22.22.02 # r29528 build result: All green 22.27.41 # dionoea: ping 22.32.05 # pong 22.32.14 # kugel 22.32.30 # dionoea: did you get anywhere with your playback issue? 22.33.04 # nope. didn't try anything yet 22.33.08 # okay 22.33.33 # i'll probably try tomorrow evening 22.39.51 Join mystica555 [0] (~Mike@71-33-147-209.hlrn.qwest.net) 22.41.48 Join {phoenix} [0] (~dirk@p57AA3988.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.43.43 Quit mrkiko (Quit: leaving) 22.44.17 # Torne: don't you that is equivocating on scheduling latencies vs. contention latencies? 22.55.18 Join mystica555_ [0] (~mike@71-33-147-209.hlrn.qwest.net) 22.59.19 Quit JdGordon1 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 23.09.54 Quit freddyb (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101206122652]) 23.10.04 Quit amiconn (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.10.05 Quit pixelma (Remote host closed the connection) 23.12.29 Join amiconn [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 23.12.30 Join pixelma [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 23.13.00 Join leavittx_ [0] (~lev@89.221.199.187) 23.14.21 # New commit by 03kugel (r29529): Android: Add a nowplaying bar to the 3x3 widget 23.18.10 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@124-168-180-95.dyn.iinet.net.au) 23.18.10 Quit JdGordon| (Changing host) 23.18.10 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 23.23.44 Quit scorche|sh (Changing host) 23.23.45 Join scorche|sh [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 23.24.08 # r29529 build result: All green 23.26.43 # kugel: ping 23.27.03 # gevaerts: pong 23.27.25 # kugel: I'm (finally!) properly looking at your gsoc mail 23.27.35 # nice 23.28.27 # I'm not entirely sure about the first two, but the other three look good 23.28.31 Quit petur (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 23.28.50 # The first two may be good as well, but I'm not sure I understand the impact well enough 23.29.43 # they're not proposals as such, but ideas for discussion 23.29.52 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@p5DD57E70.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.29.52 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 23.29.52 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 23.29.58 # Yes, I know, which is why I'm discussing them now :) 23.30.28 # Redoing the database wouldn't be very compatible with fixing integration of other stuff with the database 23.33.13 Join saratoga [0] (9803c6dd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.198.221) 23.33.39 # amiconn: any chance you could run RMAA on your Clip+ with stock rockbox and with your patched build? 23.33.58 # i've seen several other people complain about similar problems, so i suspect you may have a different hardware revision 23.34.03 # (then I do) 23.34.57 # I actually positively like the bookmark and playlist database ones 23.35.18 # gevaerts: well, they needn't be compatible 23.36.16 # redoing the database was essentially Torne's idea. but one of the goal would be to get a maintainer for currently unmaintained code 23.36.29 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@vit94-1-82-67-248-70.fbx.proxad.net) 23.36.29 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 23.36.29 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 23.36.38 Quit Llorean (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.36.40 # kugel: I thought we volunteered pamaury for that? :) 23.37.56 # The thing is that I would feel really bad if we picked a proposal for redesigning the database, reject another proposal because it would need a more or less stable database API, and have the first one fail 23.37.59 # I don't want to maintain this horrible code ! 23.38.56 # While on the other hand whoever fixes bookmark/database interaction or playlist/database interaction may also accidentally end up fixing the database 23.39.28 # can we redesign playlists too? 23.40.21 # Oh, and the multi-select thing might be fun to have as well 23.40.49 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: Bye ;)) 23.41.42 # gevaerts: I think it's not asked too much to ask the students to work together for the unlikely case that both are picked 23.41.46 Join JdGord [0] (~jonno@114.75.119.169) 23.42.09 # kugel: to be honest, I think it is. What if one of them vanishes? 23.42.58 # you're pessimistic 23.44.04 # JdGordon| also did a major skin engine rework during the development of the new parser and theme editor and they collaborated very well 23.44.30 # but JdGordon| is a regular developper who knows the code well 23.44.44 # Yes, but JdGordon| has been there for a while 23.44.54 # It's not as if we never had a student disappear 23.45.10 # * jhMikeS thirds that point 23.46.40 # well, then chose one of those (or none). I'm not insisting that all that ideas end up in proposals on the wiki 23.46.45 Quit Strife89 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.48.57 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: Destructor called) 23.49.46 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@168.16.226.187) 23.50.10 # * gevaerts is a bit hesitant 23.50.49 # I know many people would like a new database, so I don't want to reject that idea... 23.51.00 # Yes, maybe just present them all and see what happens 23.52.54 # * AlexP doesn't care as long as he isn't forced to use it :) 23.54.14 Join freddyb [0] (~chatzilla@216.8.239.112.etczone.com) 23.54.51 # hm, does anyone remember why we didn't keep USB host support on the ideas list last year? 23.56.55 # because no one has a player which has usb host ? 23.57.10 # * gevaerts has several! 23.57.14 # usb host would be really nice, but there are too few players with it :( 23.57.25 Quit Stummi (Quit: Bye!) 23.57.31 # Kugel: Would it be ok if I changed tagcache.c to follow soft link directories on the ui simulator? 23.57.32 # I want one ! :) 23.57.53 # freddyb: :? 23.58.44 # gevaerts: there probably isn't a reason