--- Log for 15.03.111 Server: hitchcock.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 23 hours and 46 minutes ago 00.02.41 Join iq [0] (~iq@unaffiliated/iq) 00.04.17 Quit Zarggg (Quit: Zarggg) 00.06.39 # New commit by 03wodz (r29588): WM8750/51 driver: ... 00.09.46 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 00.11.19 # r29588 build result: 20 errors, 0 warnings (wodz committed) 00.14.10 # New commit by 03wodz (r29589): fix red 00.16.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.17.26 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 00.18.50 # r29589 build result: All green 00.20.42 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 00.21.45 Join bzed_ [0] (~bzed@devel.recluse.de) 00.22.33 Join timccc [0] (~timccc@112.166.15.141) 00.22.48 Quit stripwax (Quit: http://miranda-im.org) 00.23.18 Join mudd1 [0] (~cmertes@ip-78-94-203-49.unitymediagroup.de) 00.23.31 Quit bzed (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 00.23.36 Nick bzed_ is now known as bzed (~bzed@devel.recluse.de) 00.24.25 Quit leavittx (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 00.25.24 Quit kevku (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.2 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) 00.27.31 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 00.32.39 Quit komputes (Remote host closed the connection) 00.33.20 Part Zagor 00.33.41 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 00.39.31 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 00.40.45 Quit L-Strife89 (Read error: Operation timed out) 00.41.04 Quit Jerom (Quit: Leaving.) 00.41.16 Join L-Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@168.16.236.89) 00.45.39 Quit user890104 (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 00.49.54 Quit stripwax (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.53.56 Quit madalu (Remote host closed the connection) 00.54.05 Join CaptainKwel [0] (~jason@207-38-215-126.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 01.02.25 Quit salty-horse (Quit: Leaving) 01.02.27 Quit ender` (Quit: If the experiment works, you must be using the wrong equipment. -- Patrick's Theorem) 01.15.43 Join user890104 [0] (~Venci@6bez10.info) 01.29.52 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.53=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 01.31.03 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 01.35.06 Nick [Saint] is now known as S_a_i_n_t (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.75) 01.35.10 Nick S_a_i_n_t is now known as [Saint] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.0.75) 01.37.18 Quit mudd1 (Read error: Operation timed out) 01.37.26 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 02.00.28 Join JdGord [0] (~AndChat@pa58-109-194-92.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au) 02.16.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.23.58 Quit useer (Quit: quitte) 02.24.34 Join webguest56 [0] (~61652cfc@giant.haxx.se) 02.29.41 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust964.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 02.29.59 Quit webguest56 (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 02.30.32 Quit robin0800 (Client Quit) 02.30.55 Quit shai (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 02.31.09 Join shai_ [0] (~Shai@bzq-84-111-135-104.red.bezeqint.net) 02.31.10 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust964.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 02.36.42 Quit shai_ (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 02.40.45 Quit robin0800 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 02.43.50 Join brightspark [0] (~kyle@rtay-164-107-198-168.resnet.ohio-state.edu) 02.50.58 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 02.53.54 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng066.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 02.54.26 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 02.55.57 Quit brightspark (Quit: Ex-Chat) 02.55.59 Quit mshathlonxp (Quit: fall into short sleep) 03.05.28 Quit [Saint] (Disconnected by services) 03.05.30 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.1.67) 03.14.21 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03.17.22 Join t0rc [0] (~t0rc@unaffiliated/t0rc/x-5233201) 03.18.23 Join [Saint] [0] (S_a_i_n_t@203.184.1.67) 03.19.17 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (~rmenes@c-68-36-232-73.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 03.19.17 Quit LambdaCalculus37 (Changing host) 03.19.17 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (~rmenes@rockbox/staff/LambdaCalculus37) 03.20.02 # soap_, AlexP, any mod: Banhammer required on winw93451l, please. 03.34.14 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 03.34.52 Quit Slasheri (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 03.57.49 # I'm looking to commit FS#11906 (GBS codec). It's building green and the m3u playlist issues appear to have been resolved, according to the comments. 03.59.21 # No more issues with non-recording targets, either. Thoughts, anyone? 04.12.09 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 04.12.28 # <[Saint]> LambdaCalculus37: Supporting more codecs is a good thing... 04.14.15 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng066.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 04.14.29 # [Saint]: Yes, while I do agree with that, at the same time we also want to make sure that codecs that go in also work properly, of course. :) 04.14.50 # <[Saint]> well, I assumed you'd already tested that ;) 04.14.52 # So perhaps a few more people should help test out FS#11906 before it goes in. 04.15.10 # [Saint]: On iPod video and iPod mini 2G thus far. 04.16.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.22.20 Quit simonrvn (Read error: Operation timed out) 04.23.39 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 04.23.58 Join saratoga [0] (9803c57f@rockbox/developer/saratoga) 04.24.09 # can someone ban the spammer on the forums? 04.25.38 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 04.25.49 Join simonrvn [0] (simon@2001:470:8c85:11fe::c0a8:195) 04.26.40 Quit kugel_ (Read error: Operation timed out) 04.32.05 Join Barahir [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590f60ae.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.32.12 # saratoga: He's at it again?? 04.32.27 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) 04.33.33 Join shai [0] (~Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 04.35.09 Quit Barahir_ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 04.36.41 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.44.09 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.44.09 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.44.25 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.46.39 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.46.41 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.46.43 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.49.11 Quit t0rc (Quit: Give someone code, help them with one project. 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Thanks for the brilliant OS. 12.51.45 # @bluebrother: do you know if there are docs for the Rockbox Theme Editor app I believe you compile and made available on the alice-dsl.net site?? 12.59.38 # Zagor: problems solved in a newer nightly build 12.59.44 # sorry for the noise 13.01.38 # oh, ok. good. 13.02.08 # newer CM? 13.03.25 # yep 13.03.43 # I have also 16 levels now :) 13.03.47 Quit Guest18558 (Quit: Don't follow me) 13.03.49 # yay :) 13.06.46 Join wodz|work [0] (~5f303f8a@giant.haxx.se) 13.09.56 Join Dreamxtreme [0] (~Dre@92.18.110.105) 13.11.04 # sound_val2phys() is insane. We should get rid of this and have all settings operate on uniform physical units. 13.18.09 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 13.25.04 # I think it should work consistently in exactly the opposite way, everthing 0..n ... you want it's physical equivalent, look it up. Then there are no restictions as far as what the units are or how they're spaced out not to mention few items in the tables. 13.28.27 # oh, and you don't need a min sound value for anything, just the number of points in the scale 13.30.19 Join JdGord [0] (~AndChat@pa58-109-194-92.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au) 13.31.05 # Personaly I don't mind in which way this should be unified. What I don't like is current mix of phys/register representation 13.35.30 # mostly I'm thinking of a way of supporting unusal things without all sorts of special accomodations. but yeah, the mix and match has messed me up enough times as well. 13.40.09 # The effort for getting rid of val2phys would be to modify: 7 driver files (mas35xx.c, uda1380.c, tlv320.c, wm8731.c, as3514.c, wm8978.c, wm8751.c); sound.c, recording.c, option_select.c and probably something I am missing 13.40.30 Quit m1k3y (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 13.41.42 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 13.41.44 # The efford for converting everything into reg values would be to modify 16 driver files, and whole app part 13.42.19 # The question would be how to define reg values for RaaA and simulator 13.42.29 Quit JdGord (Quit: Bye) 13.43.51 # they wouldn't be reg values, just indexes, so then they can map to any associated thing. I don't know about RaaA but the sim should map the same as the device. 13.45.06 # with indexes only inc/dec is needed, not obtaining a step (which then must be absolutely unifom, which also doesn't always work) 13.45.26 # jhMikeS: could you elaborate? 13.45.54 # we still have to present sensible values to the user 13.46.32 # Zagor: that's for sound_val2phys was intended 13.48.02 # if everything is 0..n, then to go up/down is always +1/-1. with everything physical, you need a step value ( x+= step, x -= step). sound_val2phys can obtain the physical value for the index, then be formatted to a string if desired. 13.49.33 # jhMikeS: in raaa we need to be able to set absolute values too 13.50.49 # how would that prevent it? 13.51.20 # it wouldn't, sorry. I don't quite understand what wodz is proposing. 13.51.46 # moving val2phys to the respective audiohw drivers? 13.53.55 # Zagor: val2phys is used currently to convert recording gain only (and 3d enhancement on gigabeats, mpiohd300 and mpiohd200) 13.53.57 # building the physical units into every value, which I see as more constraining and not supportive of things that don't follow nice, even steps, like that HW 3d effect shown as % or tone control cutoffs, or unusual volume scales, etc. etc. 13.54.19 # Zagor: did you check on which android versions the internal api exploit works on? 13.54.41 # kugel: no, that came from maurus' patch 13.55.09 # also, IIUC, you can get hidden but public symbols/members through reflection but I don't konw if it's better or not 13.57.36 # jhMikeS: the only benefits from expressing everthing in physical units are 1) less efford to work this out 2) more human readable audiohw_settings[] 13.58.23 # considering lack of API description 2) is not that unimportant 13.58.39 # wodz|work: that's why there are comments :) 14.00.57 # http://www.pastie.org/1674206 <- yea very descriptive and easy to understand (and this is quite elaborate comment) 14.02.27 # The point is, if something won't work under the physical scheme to my satisfaction, I'm going to feel motivated to subvert it so I can have nice display for the user first, programmer second. 14.06.28 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.06.34 # or a scale can be concocted just to comply but isn't really a precise representation of the real value 14.06.39 Join antil33t [0] (antil33t@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 14.11.00 # even as a developer, I really don't give a toss how something's represented internally when I'm just using it. some good comments about the meaning of things and careful study before changing things shouldn't be too much to ask. 14.11.14 # So basicaly You think it is better to leave this in current form. Now you have full freedom of hackign val2phys, val2reg, expressing in thenth of dB or in register values. The point is that this is huge barrier for newcommers. 14.11.45 # no, it needs to be consistent 14.11.54 # why shouldn't newcomers have barriers? 14.12.41 # Why should they have barriers where they can have not? 14.12.51 # if they're not willing to push through, I suppose they should be doing something else other than programming :) 14.13.28 # This isn't very friendly approach. 14.13.57 # Is there some specific setting or two that seem to have confusing or problematic values? 14.14.16 # I mean right now, our users seem to be able to, well enough, get most of our sound-related settings. 14.14.37 # the settings are fine, we are discussing the internals 14.14.45 Join japc [0] (~japc@194.65.5.235) 14.16.07 # There seemed to be some discussion above relating to how the internals relate to what is displayed. 14.16.41 # jhMikeS's mention of "I'm going to feel motivated to subvert it so I can have nice display for the user first, programmer second." 14.16.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.17.18 # that's the sentence I don't quite get honestly 14.17.50 # I think he's saying that the internal representation should be something easy to work with relative to what is displayed to the user. 14.18.11 # it's a promise that I'll put the user's experience before my own convenience 14.18.27 # If we're displaying dB to the user, obviously an internal representation of dB makes a lot of sense. If we're displaying percentage to the user, register values may make more sense since there's may be a more direct or simple mental conversion between them and an arbitrary "percentage" 14.19.01 Join kinesis_ [0] (~kinesis@dynamic-adsl-84-221-115-107.clienti.tiscali.it) 14.19.11 # If I have the right feel for where he's coming from. 14.20.34 # Llorean: The starting point of this discussion was recording gain displayed in dB and expressed in some weird hardware specific units internally 14.21.19 # wodz|work: yes, but the overall point you presented wasn't "let's fix recording gain" but "shouldn't all sound settings be physical units" 14.21.46 # "let's fix recording gain" might be something you both agree on, if you presented it that way. 14.21.50 # this is the same at present 14.21.54 # Llorean: when who's coming from? the major issue I guess it's such a mess of register/index/physical that it's gotten the best of me several times, creating bugs (that seem to be fixed now). 14.22.04 # s/when/where/ 14.22.24 # wodz|work: What is the same at present? 14.22.49 # jhMikeS: I may have misunderstood then. Your point seemed (to me) that the internal representation should be user-focuse (and thus UI-focused) rather than programmer-focused. 14.23.01 # the only thing which has weak physical representation is 3d enhancement expressed in % 14.24.00 # and stereo width is also expressed in % and internally it is presented in 0-250 range and not in some 0-17 register value 14.24.19 # Llorean: that's was wodz. mine was "make it all indexes", not reg values, not physical values. if the two are the same, great. I can deal with it personally since it's just a matter of doing simple math. 14.24.47 # jhMikeS: I thought wodz was "make it all physical values" 14.25.03 Part kinesis_ 14.25.24 # Llorean: correct 14.25.55 Quit scromple () 14.26.19 # mine is "abstract it into a zero-based array" 14.26.56 # jhMikeS: I guess I didn't see from your comments an intent to move everything to an index-based scale, but rather to maintain flexibility of using whatever scale the value seemed to 'want' 14.27.13 # Though a zero based array might have a strong point for working for most of them. 14.27.50 # then I can represent anything in so long as computers are discretely valued, which I think will be awhile 14.27.56 # Anyway, I need breakfast. Maybe that's why I missed some points. 14.30.50 # jhMikeS: the drawback of index based approach is that we may need to convert this both way index2register and index2phys 14.31.23 Join evilnick_B [0] (0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 14.32.35 # index to register is usually pretty simple and already done quite frequently, with an offset 14.32.56 # thats true 14.35.14 # with indexing, one could conceivably ask for any fractional precision too when wanting a physical value 14.36.11 Quit wodz|work (Quit: CGI:IRC) 14.41.39 # those are my thoughts on that whole matter anyway...forever chiseled into the logs, whatever may come of it 14.43.20 Quit akzfowl (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 14.59.28 # So are we done polling for when devcon should be? :) 14.59.43 # yes 15.00.11 Quit B4gder (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 15.00.29 # Torne: yes, so now you pick who you don't like :) 15.00.35 # jhMikeS: i like the index idea a lot 15.00.51 # well everyone said yes to 3 june except petur 15.01.06 # sorry 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I can do that 19.52.57 # dfkt: actually... I have no idea how to get the memory that full using just rockbox... 19.53.16 # get more music ;) 19.53.35 # HOW DO I LOAD IT WITHOUT USBMODE D: 19.53.49 # usb is still working, it just doesn't refresh 19.54.03 # I can't get to usb mode until AFTER I bypass the refresh issue 19.54.39 # okay, I'm making copies of my audio files on the player -_- 19.56.23 Quit user890104 (Read error: Operation timed out) 19.56.50 Quit japc (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 19.59.08 # i dont see any usb device while the player is "refreshing" 19.59.42 # u42p: well I'm trying the workaround from dfkt... which is time consuming 20.00.02 # basically: using rockbox, you have to delete the ## directories and then just fill up the memory (make superfluous copies of stuff) 20.00.09 # so that the OF doesn't have enough free space to do it's stupid scan :P 20.05.50 # yeah, saw that :) 20.05.50 # is it enough to fill the internal memory or do i need to fill the sd too 20.05.50 # kugel: pong 20.08.44 Quit JdGord (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.16.28 Quit T44 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 20.16.48 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng367.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 20.17.46 Join Mir_ppc [0] (opera@150.sub-75-217-176.myvzw.com) 20.19.01 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@f048100123.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.30.52 Quit T44 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 20.37.24 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54A3AFAF.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.44.56 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 20.48.33 # I would like to commit FS#12009 (emedded album art for mp4). The patch works for me. Anybody speaking against it? 20.52.51 # Buschel: What files have you tested it with? I have an itunes-store file with an embedded jpeg if you think it's worth testing? 20.53.13 Join Jerom [0] (~jerome@79.132.59.245) 20.54.03 # linuxstb: why not, one more file and provider tested. bte, you do not have a png as embedded AA? 20.54.27 Quit Jerom (Client Quit) 20.55.00 # I forgot to wrap it with #ifdef HAVE_ALBUMART 20.55.07 # jhMikeS: If we unify sound settings, they should be unified using physical values, not register settings 20.55.10 # linuxstb: I tested with 6 m4a-files (all jpg AA), 4 from the link the author provided, 2 from other flyspray entry which I saved. 20.55.35 # Buschel: No, it's definitely jpeg. Give me 5-10 minutes to build it - I don't have any targets handy, so will just try a sim. 20.55.41 Join UsPdSr [0] (~frido_fic@89.204.137.156) 20.55.43 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/DevCon2011 <-- get filling it in folks 20.56.01 # Register settings can be a pita to work with, e.g. on some dacs the volume steps aren't constant 20.56.18 Quit JesusFreak316 (Remote host closed the connection) 20.56.29 # GodEater: no room sharing section? 20.57.24 # Ah - I think I copied the wrong template - should have used the DevConEuro one 20.57.27 # jhMikeS: On another matter, I already reported ages ago that the beast charging code is drawing more than what usb allows if the battery level is low 20.57.31 # feel free to add that too gevaerts 20.58.08 # * gevaerts will 20.58.10 # Therefore I can't charge the beast in rockbox using my usb hub (which shuts down the port if the device draws >500 mA) 20.58.45 # or perhaps follow previous years formats? 20.58.52 # and just add a DevConEuro2011 page? 20.58.56 Quit UsPdSr (Client Quit) 20.59.17 # yes, probably 20.59.29 # Buschel: Do you remember what's the problem with raw aac? I recently noticed that they're unsupported in rockbox and don't remember the reason 20.59.41 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@f048100123.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.01.04 # amiconn: no, I did not follow the discussion :/ 21.01.44 # amiconn: IIUC jhMikeS' idea was for the settings to store an index that maps to register values on the driver side and physical units on the ui side 21.02.28 Quit simonrvn (Read error: Operation timed out) 21.02.32 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 21.02.32 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 21.02.32 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 21.03.13 # Buschel: Works fine for me. 21.04.16 # linuxstb: I will commit then 21.04.57 # n1s: Several settings don't even map directly to register values. An example: volume and balance. Most audio codecs don't have a direct setting for this, but instead a left volume and a right volume, so volume and balance need to be mixed before converting them to register values 21.05.22 # (one notable exception is the MASF, which does have separate volume and balance) 21.05.25 Join simon___ [0] (~simon@static-212.214.179.102.addr.tdcsong.se) 21.05.36 # There are certainly more cases 21.05.36 Quit simon___ (Client Quit) 21.05.38 # gevaerts: I knocked up the DevConEuro2011 page now 21.05.47 # it has the same format as last year, so we just need to start filling it in. 21.06.07 # captainkewlllll: just recognized you are there -> didn't you provide FS#12099? 21.06.16 # yes 21.06.16 # amiconn: i don't think that's a problem really 21.06.29 # can post a fixed patch with the ifdefs in a minute if you need it 21.06.42 # Another one is digital precut and analog post-boost when dealing with sw tone control gains > 0 21.06.58 # captainkewlllll: could you verify the functionality with a png? 21.07.11 # n1s: It's not a problem as such, but it shows that direct mapping is not feasible for many settings 21.07.25 # ...i.e. physical values are better 21.07.35 # Buschel: I thought embedded png wasn't supported? 21.07.37 # amiconn: AFAIU the point was just to have the values used internally be without inherit meaning 21.07.42 # Buschel: I don't think png album art is supported anywhere 21.07.55 # ahhh, my fault ;) 21.08.09 # Buschel: I did try some with embeded png; nothing broke, they just didn't display. 21.08.16 Quit GeekShadow (Read error: Operation timed out) 21.08.17 # fine then 21.08.19 # GodEater: great! I'm on there now too :) 21.08.22 # amiconn: i disagree, different dacs will have different step sizes and may have for example balance as relative % or absolute 21.08.37 # Torne: can you review the Infrastructure bit on DevConEuro2011? 21.08.54 # amiconn: I recall there being info in the m4a container which is passed to the AAC decoder. I've no idea how that's handled with raw aac. Do you have such a file? 21.08.58 # The reason why some settings are still in physical values is a historic one. 21.10.09 # Long ago when settings were stored in the nvram (archos recorders), we needed to conserve space, because nvram is only 44 bytes on these devices. Physical values needed less bits 21.10.10 # linuxstb: I know that while e.g. foobar plays raw AACs they aren't seekable - related? 21.10.22 Join simonrvn [0] (simon@2001:470:8c85:11fe::c0a8:195) 21.10.47 # linuxstb: All the n900 shipped ringtones are raw aac (well, they do have the .aac extension - I assume they are raw aac) 21.12.04 # captainkewlllll: I just need to add #ifdef HAVE_ALBUMART around "case MP4_covr:", correct? 21.13.21 # Buschel: and #define MP4_covr... (line 48) 21.14.41 # captainkewlllll: that does not hurt. but imho it makes the code less readable 21.15.03 Quit u42p (Quit: Leaving) 21.17.30 # mm. Whatever you think makes sense. 21.17.39 # New commit by 03Buschel (r29591): Submit FS#12009. Add embedded album art support for m4a. Thanks to Jason Yu. 21.18.06 # nice 21.20.40 # pixelma: could you give FS#12007 a try on your Ondio? 21.20.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.21.42 # r29591 build result: All green 21.23.26 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 21.27.34 # New commit by 03Buschel (r29592): Disable debug output in wave format parser by default. 21.27.47 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 21.29.38 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-175-108.student.uu.se) 21.29.39 Quit n1s (Changing host) 21.29.39 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 21.30.16 Join simon___ [0] (~simon@static-212.214.179.102.addr.tdcsong.se) 21.30.23 # linuxstb: Using pixelma's hint, they seem to be raw aac (no playtime displayed, seeking not possible) 21.30.41 # In foobar2000, that is 21.30.56 # VLC does show playtime and allows seeking 21.31.16 # r29592 build result: All green 21.31.29 # So, 23 example tracks (total size ~2.2 MB) 21.31.30 # TheSeven: Hi! I just tried to compile emcore myself with the vcore parts out-commented. No difference. USB still doesn't work. Just thought I'd tell you. 21.32.54 # amiconn, pixelma, n1s: our aac/m4a codec needs m4a metadata for playback and seek. Does a raw aac file have this data as well? If not I assume this is the reason for failing playback / seek. 21.37.48 # simon___: ah, i'll hold off on setting that up then 21.38.06 # Buschel: i have no idea about m4a/aac formats 21.38.30 # although i wonder where these raw files come from 21.39.32 # Buschel: Rockbox doesn't play them because the extension isn't even supported (I didn't try renaming) 21.40.26 # is it possible to create a flyspray entry and link one or two raw aac files? 21.40.32 # Both foobar2000 and VLC play those files. foobar2000 doesn't show total playtime and seeking is impossible. VLC has no problems at all 21.41.16 # 'file Astrosphere.aac' reports: 21.41.40 # Audio file with ID3 version 2.3.0, contains: MPEG ADTS, AAC, v2LC, 22.05 kHz, monaural 21.42.14 # Looking at the file with a hex editor shows indeed an id3v2 tag (and an id3v1 tag too) 21.42.33 # Buschel: i'm fairly sure we have closed tasks fro playing such files so there should be some linked in FS already 21.42.58 # raw AAC files probably shouldn't exist 21.43.21 # i guess they're just people dumping the output of ffmpeg's demuxer to a disk file without realizing what they're doing 21.43.58 # fs#11528 is an example 21.43.58 Join simon____ [0] (~simon@static-212.214.179.102.addr.tdcsong.se) 21.44.09 # FS#11538 as well 21.44.39 Quit simon___ (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 21.44.53 # yes, that's the one i meant, typoed the number 21.45.05 # ok :) 21.45.34 Join mystica555_ [0] (~mike@71-33-147-209.hlrn.qwest.net) 21.45.48 # i don't think it's terribly important to support these weird files but if you want to do it, i'm not against it :) 21.46.44 # saratoga: Are transport streams "raw" aac files? 21.46.46 # let's see, just copied the attached file to my HDD 21.47.05 # amiconn: i think they can be 21.47.17 # i don't think raw .aac refers to any specific format 21.47.38 # n1s: Well, here's the compiled installer if you want to try it: http://data.fuskbugg.se/skalman02/installer-ipodclassic.ubi :) 21.47.44 # * amiconn looked up what 'ADTS' in the above 'file' report means 21.47.47 # IIRC they can be ADTS or even just a raw sequence of headerless AAC frames (e.g. what the parser spits out) 21.47.57 # It's unlikely but it could work for you. 21.48.19 # i think ADTS is just the mp3 mpeg header 21.48.59 # ADTS means Audio Data Transport Stream according to wikipedia 21.49.14 # is there any chance that somebody with a HW-codec player can verify FS#12007? 21.50.23 # simon____: thanks, i'll try it tomorrow, this whole rebooting to windows thing is no fun 21.50.26 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: Read the fucking binary.) 21.51.02 # n1s: What OS are you running now? I do it from linux. 21.51.52 # i run linux but couldn't get the ramdisk to be detected by the kernel after running the dfu exploit 21.52.01 # Buschel: Any special requirements for this patch? 21.52.10 Join thomasjfox [0] (~thomasjfo@rockbox/developer/thomasjfox) 21.52.39 # so the exploit runs fine but i can't upload ubi files, maybe i should retry that but it didn't work when i last tried i 21.52.41 # t 21.52.57 Quit Stummi (Quit: Bye!) 21.53.43 Quit bertrik (Quit: :tiuQ) 21.57.07 # amiconn: I made some changes to mpeg.c which impact MPEG_RECORD and MPEG_NEW_FILE (for CONFIG_CODEC == MAS3587F) 22.00.08 # Buschel: I didn't want to know what it hcanges, but what's required to apply it 22.00.36 # But then a first test shows that rockbox gets the playtime for L9.mp3 right *without* applying the patch 22.00.41 # n1s, it doesn't mount here either, I have to unload the ehci_hcd module first for it to work :) 22.00.47 # (on archos recorder) 22.01.16 # simon____: first when? before running the exploit? 22.01.49 # Yes, before running the exploit :) 22.01.58 # What distro are you running? 22.02.54 # amiconn: this is because the archos does not accept Layer1 and Layer2. in this case the error does not occur 22.02.56 # debian 22.03.16 # The archos *does* accept layer2 (but not layer1) 22.03.39 # sorry, Layer1 only. you are right 22.03.57 # I don't know it it's called exactly ehci_hcd in debian. Run 'dmesg | grep ehci' and you should see it. Then just remove it with rmmod. 22.04.53 # Module names aren't dependent on the distribution... 22.05.52 # i tried modprobe -r ehci_hcd ; python ipoddfu.py bootstrap-ipodclassic.dfu ; sleep 5 ; modprobe ehci_hcd and that made the python thing segfault :) 22.05.53 # amiconn: at the position to which the id3v2 frame lenght points there is a byte sequence which is valid MPEG Layer1 header. SWCODEC players will detect this byte sequence as first valif MPEG header (and fail playback), !SWCODEC player will not detect it as valid MPEG header and parse to the next (correct) header 22.06.01 # lucky i didn't use && 22.06.27 # * Buschel slaps his keyboard 22.06.32 # n1s: why the one line? 22.07.00 # gevaerts: it's hard to type in commands when the keybaord isn't working 22.07.04 # If you have a USB keyboard, unless it's behind a hub, it's already not connected to ehci 22.07.22 # Besides, you shouldn't load the module again after the exploit. The disk won't mount :) 22.07.33 # i tried unloading it last i played with this and neither keyboard nor mouse worked 22.07.44 # weird 22.08.07 # Do you have uhci_hcd loaded? 22.08.24 # no 22.08.37 # ohci_hcd then 22.08.51 # no 22.09.03 # huh? 22.09.11 # That's a weird setup you have then... 22.09.27 # * gevaerts thinks it's not too on-topic here 22.12.15 Quit leavittx (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 22.14.23 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@ree79-1-78-237-225-34.fbx.proxad.net) 22.14.23 Quit GeekShadow (Changing host) 22.14.23 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 22.16.06 # amiconn: any further questions from your side on what's needed to apply the patch? 22.16.08 Quit mystica555_ (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 22.16.18 # The patch looks rather suspicious 22.16.32 Join user890104 [0] (~Venci@6bez10.info) 22.17.17 # * Buschel is sure amiconn will elaborate 22.17.57 # Iiuc it will make it more likely that hwcodec recording will produce borken output files (partial start or end frames) with either prerecording or file split 22.18.38 Join mystica555_ [0] (~mike@71-33-147-209.hlrn.qwest.net) 22.21.43 # dfkt: when it gives me the error "Not enough space for Music DB. Please free 90MB.", it crashes and I have to force-reboot the device -_- 22.21.53 # gevaerts: i'll have a look later on, busy atm 22.22.30 # Torne: no hurry. I'd say that needs to be done within the next two months or so 22.22.31 Quit thomasjfox (Remote host closed the connection) 22.26.57 # Right now mem_find_next_frame() searches for a header which matches the stream, comparing to the saved header, so version, layer, channels, stereo mode etc must all match 22.28.10 # With that patch, mem_find_next_frame() accepts anything that resembles an mpeg audio header. Since the search starts from an arbitrary position in the stream, this is too ambiguous, imo 22.28.27 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@87-206-240-131.dynamic.chello.pl) 22.30.38 # recording.c has nice bug :-) in fmt_gain() i = val / (10*numdec); I bet the author had i = val / pow(10, numdec); in mind 22.31.55 # amiconn: accepted. 22.42.00 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.44.34 # Buschel: This is effectively causing the same problem you're trying to avoid in one place in another place 22.44.52 # amiconn: I am working on the solution right now 22.48.01 Quit jordan` (Quit: Coyote finally caught me) 22.48.37 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: Destructor called) 22.54.21 Join jordan` [0] (~jordan@jem75-13-78-235-252-137.fbx.proxad.net) 22.55.48 # amiconn: regarding sound settings - jhMikeS argued that non uniform steps are easier to code with abstract 0 based index 22.59.21 Join factor [0] (~factor@75.108.68.114) 22.59.35 # amiconn: this patch does not change mpeg.c and keeps the reference-header comparison -> http://pastie.org/1676210 23.00.31 # amiconn: it renames saved_header to reference_header in the function declaration and implementation as this naming better matches what it is used for 23.04.31 Quit simon____ (Quit: leaving) 23.05.24 Join japc [0] (~japc@bl21-168-102.dsl.telepac.pt) 23.09.52 Quit [Saint] (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.13.49 # amiconn: What happened to the beast was drawing 220mA at nearly full battery, but low enough to start a topoff, yet the register settings and battery level said it should be drawing about 50-60mA at most. It should be setting the current lower for USB only though and only be able to manage about 550 from the main charger, and 400 from the USB setting (which is one lower). 23.15.31 # however, pulling the main while USB is connected could make it briefly use the main setting until it figures out it's on USB only 23.16.33 # amiconn: if you should have further comments on FS#12007 (I have updated the patch) please let me know 23.16.39 # good night! 23.16.42 Quit Buschel (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86 [Firefox 3.6.15/20110303024726]) 23.20.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.24.49 Quit bluefoxx (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 23.35.08 # New commit by 03wodz (r29593): recording.c ... 23.35.15 # New commit by 03wodz (r29594): WM8750/51: properly apply recording gain 23.39.26 Join bluefoxx [0] (fuzzylomba@S0106485b3917092d.vs.shawcable.net) 23.39.41 # r29593 build result: All green 23.39.42 Quit evilnick_B (Quit: Page closed) 23.43.17 # r29594 build result: All green 23.43.17 Quit captainkewlllll (Quit: Page closed) 23.44.22 Quit bluefoxx (Quit: Can we, should we, will we?) 23.44.39 Join bluefoxx [0] (fuzzylomba@S0106485b3917092d.vs.shawcable.net) 23.47.49 Join Dr_Agasa [0] (~uno@host135-126-dynamic.20-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 23.48.37 Join timccc [0] (~timccc@112.166.15.141) 23.49.58 Quit teapot (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 23.52.19 Quit Dr_Agasa (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 23.54.58 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 23.55.46 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving)