--- Log for 19.03.111 Server: gibson.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 day and 1 hour ago 00.02.35 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 00.02.35 Join bluebroth3r [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 00.13.25 Quit GeekShadow (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.14.04 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 00.14.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.24.41 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@dhcp0101.kin.resnet.group.upenn.edu) 00.25.35 Join sirrozha [0] (~sirrozha1@89.23.217.205) 00.31.05 Quit factor (Quit: Leaving) 00.31.34 Join factor [0] (~factor@75.108.68.114) 00.34.40 Quit mudd1 (Ping timeout: 251 seconds) 00.46.19 Quit Loto (Quit: Loto) 00.47.38 Join Loto [0] (~nfs@S01060012171a84e3.no.shawcable.net) 00.47.39 Quit Loto (Changing host) 00.47.39 Join Loto [0] (~nfs@xbmc/user/Loto) 00.48.27 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 00.49.36 Join t0rc [0] (~t0rc@unaffiliated/t0rc/x-5233201) 01.06.59 Part domonoky 01.08.03 Quit dfkt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.21.04 Quit sideral (Quit: Leaving.) 01.22.06 Quit ender` (Quit: The reason they call it the American Dream is because you have to be asleep to believe it. -- George Carlin) 01.22.37 Quit Hindu (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 01.30.50 Quit timccc (Quit: Leaving.) 01.32.04 Join [Saint] [0] (~st.lasciv@202-180-120-92.callplus.net.nz) 01.32.28 Quit [Saint] (Client Quit) 01.36.46 Part thomasjfox ("Konversation terminated!") 01.50.33 Join CaptainKwel [0] (~jason@207-38-215-126.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 01.51.35 Quit bertrik (Read error: Operation timed out) 01.58.32 Quit t0rc (Quit: Give someone code, help them with one project. 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I've only taken a few classes on computer architecture, organization, and digital logic, but I do feel like this is an awesome project. 05.05.12 # I haven't looked much into the rockbox source code yet, but am downloading the repo as we speak. I noticed that your GSoC application form is still tentative, is there anything special I should do to show you that I'm interested in the project (other than just fixing some bugs etc, which I will be doing in the next few days?) 05.05.16 # Thank you. 05.14.35 Quit Keripo (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05.24.56 Join MarkTraceur [0] (~marktrace@cpe-76-174-115-122.socal.res.rr.com) 05.26.45 Quit user890104 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 05.26.50 # <[Saint]> Leif: It probably wouldn't hurt to send a mail to the mailing list. 05.28.49 Join Jeshikah [0] (Jeshikah@pool-74-105-171-87.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) 05.30.22 # [Saint], Okay, thanks. 05.30.38 # hi there. i have a funny lil problem with winvista and my rockbox player. i tried to connect it, but comp is suddenly wanting a driver installation, even though i've connected it before. 05.31.32 # i'd rather not try connecting via the OF because the of cannot see music put under both, msc and mtp mode, but rockbox can 05.32.11 # where do i get 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10.53.31 Join aldinor [0] (~deathwolf@ppp-188-174-114-90.dynamic.mnet-online.de) 10.55.00 Quit sirrozha () 10.55.36 Quit domonoky (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 10.57.48 Quit aldinor (Client Quit) 10.59.35 # New commit by 03bertrik (r29614): FS#12016 - Update Chinese Translation by Purling Nayuki 11.03.31 # r29614 build result: All green 11.04.28 Join linuxstb [0] (~linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 11.07.48 Join benedikt93_ [0] (~benedikt9@p5B0C39AC.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.09.43 Quit benedikt93 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 11.09.45 Quit linuxstb (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 11.14.14 # New commit by 03nls (r29615): FS#12014 by Huan Zhang fixing some link errors with a recent mips toolchain. 11.15.21 # New commit by 03nls (r29616): Forgot CREDITS in the prev commit. 11.17.15 Quit JdGord (Quit: Bye) 11.17.25 Nick benedikt93_ is now known as benedikt93 (~benedikt9@p5B0C39AC.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.17.44 Quit benedikt93 (Changing host) 11.17.44 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 11.17.51 # r29615 build result: All green 11.21.39 # r29616 build result: All green 11.22.09 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 11.34.38 # * Bagder has accepted to be a co-admin of rockbox gsoc2011 11.49.51 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@vit94-1-82-67-248-70.fbx.proxad.net) 11.49.52 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 11.49.52 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.50.09 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 12.11.31 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 12.11.51 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@vit94-1-82-67-248-70.fbx.proxad.net) 12.11.52 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 12.11.52 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 12.14.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.20.48 Join u42p [0] (~v35b@d029217.adsl.hansenet.de) 12.21.42 Join nsj [0] (75c468d5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.117.196.104.213) 12.24.46 Join piroko [0] (~jeremy@pohl.ececs.uc.edu) 12.25.09 # Stupid sansa clip. Always has to take 8 years to refresh my media before I can reboot to rockbox :P 12.26.12 # you can hold power for a while to force it off 12.27.25 # u42p: Holy crap you're a lifesaver. I never tried holding it that long 12.27.29 # Thank you 12.27.32 # :) 12.27.54 # my clip+ hangs when "refreshing" so i luckily i was told about that some day 12.28.21 # Yeah, definitely. Mine was stuck for 10 minutes just now 12.28.32 # I find it hilarious that we can play gameboy games on it 12.28.49 # On my sansa clip+, I put nearly all of my music files on the uSD card and remove the uSD when doing anything with the original firmware. This way it's done quickly only refreshing the few songs from the internal memory. 12.29.02 # That's a good idea 12.29.27 # You guys ever run into this bug: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11655 ? 12.29.35 # Just curious how prevalent it is 12.29.50 # let's try 12.30.09 # It doesn't always do it. It's about 75/25 for me 12.31.32 # yes, crashed right away for me. something was playing, i select the first thing that came to mind and "playlist" -> "insert": abort is at 3001A580, address is 0xB0161AA4. the rest is the same. sansa clip+ with rockbox 3.8 12.31.54 # Yup. Ok cool 12.31.56 # Thanks for testing :) 12.32.19 # I think this is a generic bug 12.32.20 # woah, pressed power, it restarted, selected a new thing from the database and tried to make it play (not doing anything wth the middle button) and it crashed again (different addresses) 12.32.21 # I was more concerned that I had sd card corruption or something 12.32.36 # u42p: O_o Oh crap. lol 12.32.56 # u42p: The playlist control file gets corrupted I believe. Try again maybe? :D 12.33.15 # heh, all is fine 12.33.28 # next try i could add 3-4 things to the playlist until it crashed 12.33.38 # well, i never use that function normally 12.33.58 # I only started using it recently. Ripped a few of my CDs and wanted to listen to them in order 12.37.13 # I can't reproduce it on my clip with r29576 (about a week old) 12.38.23 # Hmm. Maybe I should upgrade 12.39.00 # mine is ~2 weeks old 12.39.29 # 28154 i think 12.42.20 # Nope, latest svn still crashes for me 12.42.28 Join Jerom [0] (~jerome@79.132.59.245) 12.44.23 Part nsj 12.45.12 Quit esperegu (Read error: Operation timed out) 12.47.14 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r29617): Fix Rockbox Utility update detection on Linux 64bit. ... 12.50.42 # r29617 build result: All green 12.51.24 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@dhcp0101.kin.resnet.group.upenn.edu) 12.53.52 Join soap_ [0] (~soap@94.75.232.194) 12.53.52 Quit soap_ (Changing host) 12.53.52 Join soap_ [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 12.54.06 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 12.54.24 Quit socketguru (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 12.58.27 Join efyx [0] (~efyx@lap34-1-82-225-185-146.fbx.proxad.net) 12.58.43 Join socketguru [0] (~bitspilan@202.78.175.199) 13.00.07 Join aclonedsheep [0] (~acl@unaffiliated/aclonedsheep) 13.00.34 # hey, should i put rockbox on the sansa clip+ I just got? I dont know why im asking, if theres custom firmware im due to try it :b 13.10.49 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 13.12.17 Join StefARM [0] (~dragoscio@81.180.209.34) 13.14.35 Join moontan [0] (~moontan@175.180.66.144) 13.14.35 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@dhcp0101.kin.resnet.group.upenn.edu) 13.14.35 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@145.116.15.244) 13.15.15 Quit Keripo (Client Quit) 13.20.17 Quit StefARM () 13.20.45 Join StefARM [0] (~dragoscio@81.180.209.34) 13.20.51 # hi! for the first time i installed rockbox on an ipod but the bootloader tells me rockbox.ipod can't be found. hardware: ipod 5.5g 80gb. it's fat32-formatted (sector size 2048) and installation process in rockbox utility finished without errors. unfortunately none of the forum threads seems to have solved the problem. has anyone had the same problem and maybe solved it? 13.25.08 Join Hindu [0] (~Saurabh@117.203.226.44) 13.26.46 Quit Hindu (Client Quit) 13.33.15 # aclonedsheep: i think rockbox beats the original firmware any time 13.33.31 # i especially liked the bookmarks and useful scrolling/skipping speed 13.41.35 Quit sideral (Quit: Leaving.) 13.46.14 Nick kugel_ is now known as kugel (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 13.47.07 Quit Jerom (Quit: Leaving.) 13.51.06 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 13.57.24 # did anyone successfully install rockbox on an ipod 5.5 80gb? because i didn't manage. 13.58.01 # it's fat32-formatted and rockbox utility stated no errors. 13.58.41 # is the .rockbox directory there? 13.58.49 # bootloader says it cannot load rockbox.ipod but it's in the right place. 14.00.44 # check the filesystem. 14.00.52 # it's in the .rockbox folder in the root 14.01.16 # you mean whether its fat32? 14.01.27 # how do i check that in an osx terminal? 14.01.57 # i formatted the ipod's disk before installation using newfs_msdos. 14.02.26 # it was hfs before? 14.02.41 # yes 14.02.42 # you cant convert it just by formatting 14.02.53 # ythe partition table is different 14.03.07 # restore it with itunes for windows 14.03.12 # i know. i used dd to place the mbr from the rockbox site before installation too 14.03.37 # i don't have access to a windows machine right now. 14.03.47 # the manual restore process is dubious 14.04.13 # did you do exactly what it said? 14.04.23 # yes precisely 14.04.28 # it expects you to use mtools, no? 14.07.06 # yes, it's not okay to use newfs-msdos for the 80gb drive 14.07.34 # it needs to be formatted wirh a specific sector size, see the 5.5g instructions at the bottom 14.07.57 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: The higher the IQ of the individual...The more they enjoy watching a robot drive into a wall at top speed) 14.08.14 # well, yes and no. it is claimed that with the ipod 5.5 80gb using newfs_msdos with the -S 2048 switch is safer than using mtools, if i'm not terribly mistaken 14.08.32 # yeah sector size 2048 14.08.41 # anyway none of the manual restore instructions are particularly reliable 14.08.47 # ubfortunately 14.08.53 # use itunes. 14.09.25 # there are too many things thay can be wrong thanks to the broken logic in the 80gb disk 14.09.55 # hmm. okay, i'll ask my neighbour if i can descend on her win machine for a sec. after restoring the ipod with windows-itunes do you think i can finish the installation on my mac? 14.10.10 # yes 14.10.31 # alright, i'll give it a shot. thx for your advice. 14.11.31 Quit moontan (Quit: moontan) 14.12.30 Join moontan [0] (~moontan@175.180.66.144) 14.14.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.26.35 Quit soap_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.27.06 Join soap_ [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 14.35.51 Quit esperegu (Remote host closed the connection) 14.38.10 Join akzfowl [0] (~akzfowl@1.186.6.48) 14.49.47 Quit akzfowl (Quit: Leaving) 14.50.11 Join akzfowl [0] (~akzfowl@1.186.6.48) 14.57.00 Join fareed [0] (~76657c06@giant.haxx.se) 14.57.41 Join trtr3434 [0] (~trtr3434@218.111.67.225) 15.03.34 Quit soap_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.04.01 Join soap_ [0] (~soap@94.75.232.194) 15.04.06 Quit soap_ (Changing host) 15.04.06 Join soap_ [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 15.05.47 # hello there 15.09.40 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@dslb-088-069-157-011.pools.arcor-ip.net) 15.09.43 Join m1k3y [0] (~m1k3y@unaffiliated/m1k3y) 15.10.04 # hi is anyone here? 15.10.47 # Yes 15.10.52 # hello I would like to know the mentor for Standalone playback core/library? 15.11.01 # who should I contact? 15.11.12 # fareed: it's a good idea to just ask whichever question you have 15.11.25 Join linuxstb [0] (~linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 15.12.16 # i want to ask about gsoc task mentor 15.13.08 Join casainho [0] (~chatzilla@bl17-241-34.dsl.telepac.pt) 15.13.28 # i am new to this program 15.14.29 # trtr3434: I'd say probably saratoga (Michael Giacomelli) is a candidate for that one. We tend to assign mentors rather late in the process though 15.14.56 # trtr3434: it's probably best to discuss things here or on the mailing list. Saturdays are often quiet days here though 15.15.07 # trtr3434: For general questions about it, I would ask either here (and wait for people to see it) or on the -de mailing list 15.15.13 # *-dev 15.15.18 # What gevaerts said basically :) 15.15.42 # fareed: Just ask 15.15.45 # I see. 15.16.45 # Can you give me a guideline how am I going to write a proposal? 15.16.55 # We have a template somewhere on the wiki 15.17.00 # Give me a minute to find it 15.17.03 # i am interested in porting rockbox into arm emulator 15.17.36 # trtr3434: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/GSoCApplicationTemplate2011 15.17.52 # trtr3434: It says it is a draft, but I don't imagine it'll change much (if at all) 15.18.01 Join Leif [0] (~LeifAnder@c-98-202-6-36.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) 15.18.57 # Ok 15.19.49 Quit dfkt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.23.51 # hello I would like to know the mentor for ARM Emulator ? 15.24.48 # There isn't one assigned as of yet 15.25.07 # fareed: we won't assign mentors until we have a student and a project and mentors lined up 15.25.12 # Torne would be a good fit imo 15.25.14 # fareed: To discuss it, do so here (and wait for replies), or probably better, post on the -dev mailing list 15.26.27 # ok , thanks for the reply 15.28.11 Join FBI_Guy [0] (~fbiguy@pool-96-233-107-20.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) 15.28.23 # speaking of mentors, please sign up on the gsoc thing if you want to be one 15.28.57 # also, signing up there will get you to be a part of the student selection process, even if you won't end up mentoring 15.29.23 # And on a related note, mentors should join #rockbox-gsoc :) 15.29.39 # good point! 15.30.14 # Also, Bagder should approve them :) 15.30.24 # * Bagder just did the first three 15.30.28 # oops :) 15.31.27 # and now I get to use the mute function again in gmail when the mentor list gets alive again... 15.32.01 # So I can register for being mentor? 15.32.05 # no 15.32.15 # XD 15.32.24 # -_- 15.32.28 # unless you're an old rockboxer using an undercover nick just now =) 15.33.03 # I'd say all committers can be mentors 15.33.08 # I see 15.33.25 # possibly someone who isn't mentor _can_ be, but that would have to be properly motivated 15.33.31 # argh, who isn't committer 15.34.28 # Ok the point is, only old folks can sign as mentor? 15.34.35 # I'd say we really want people who are involved in Rockbox 15.34.51 # I don't see how you can be an effective mentor without already being familiar with the project 15.34.56 # I see 15.35.21 # I just want to become part of student selection process, not being a mentor :p 15.35.27 # So that is fine 15.35.41 # You want to apply as a student, not a mentor 15.35.55 # trtr3434: that too would require a really solid insight into the project which few non-committers have 15.35.59 # Yes, misunderstanding from my part 15.36.01 # oh sorry, misread 15.36.12 # No, only mentors can select students 15.36.19 # Or committers anyway 15.36.42 # the best is if anyone who wants to be part of the selection signs up to be a mentor 15.36.49 # yeah 15.37.13 # but people who are already involved, and probably in practice a committer 15.37.29 # exactly 15.38.17 # you should mention the free t-shirt :-) 15.38.25 # xD 15.47.36 # so how many students are there besides trtr3434 and fareed ? 15.48.03 # Several thousands :) 15.48.52 # you kidding right xD 15.49.03 # what are backup mentors supposed to do? 15.49.19 # Hm, probably. I guess it's millions 15.49.21 # silbo_: in gsoc there are thousands 15.49.39 # silbo_: There aren't any as such, we have had one or two others interested at the moment 15.49.42 # yea I mean like in this project 15.49.45 # sideral, I looked at the as35xx linux patch. I can't find any special handling of sd response type R1b (basic response with busy signal). There are suspicions that CMD6 is failing (it sends an R1b response) on some uSD cards in AMSv2 players. 15.49.49 # Oh 15.50.00 # * gevaerts apparently misunderstood 15.50.01 # i think i can be a mentor but i don't know if i'm qualified to be primary? 15.50.12 # sure you are 15.50.21 # ok then 15.50.51 # how much technical detail should one know about the parts that a project touches? 15.50.52 # I will try to fix a bug in RockBox so don't be mad if i blow the SVN xD 15.51.04 # silbo_: You won't be able to, you have no write access :) 15.51.16 # And if you provide a patch it'll be tested :) 15.51.17 # You might blow up the patch tracker though :) 15.51.31 # yea I know that, just trying to blend in 15.51.35 # heh :) 15.52.06 # I think I'll go out and buy a 16GB uSD card and hope it doesn't work on my sansa clip+ :) 15.52.13 # so who is the tester that has all the different players? 15.52.27 # Lots of committers have multiple players 15.52.45 # And if it is something that needs testing on many, or ones that you don't have then you ask in here 15.53.11 # ok sir Alex 15.53.14 Quit m1k3y (Remote host closed the connection) 15.53.31 # no need to be sarcastic, I'm only trying to help 15.53.39 # n1s: I'd say the qualifications to be a mentor are one or more of "knows an area of the code rather well", "has a reasonably good idea about who to talk to about specific areas of the code", "is prepared to take part in a flamewar on a student's behalf, if and when needed", "has a bit of time for this" 15.54.00 # sorry about that 15.54.09 # silbo_, if you fix something generic, you can test it in a simulator too. If it's some driver fix for a specific player, you'll probably have the hardware already. 15.55.11 # i see 15.56.18 # n1s: you're sure qualified. I don't think you need to be an expert in the specific area of the project 15.56.35 # * n1s signs up then :) 15.56.59 Quit plux (Read error: Operation timed out) 15.57.16 Join plux [0] (~yogurt@h-34-156.A238.priv.bahnhof.se) 16.00.49 Quit krazykit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 16.02.28 Join krazykit [0] (~krazykit@207-229-161-95.c3-0.frg-ubr1.chi-frg.il.cable.rcn.com) 16.06.12 # hm, maybe it's time to dust off http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/MrSomeonesTodoList again for those prospective gsoc students who want to impress us :) 16.07.57 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 16.08.23 # im a computer engineer student 16.08.29 # would i be qualified? 16.09.06 # fareed: you are qualified to submit proposal :p 16.09.20 # haha okay 16.10.24 # fareed: If you qualify for GSoC, then you qualify for Rockbox - you just then have to write a proposal an presuade us to pick you :) 16.13.12 # ok sir hope to meet you soon 16.13.21 # virtually of course 16.14.07 # xD 16.14.25 # soon an unknown man will be at your door xD 16.14.27 Quit FBI_Guy (Remote host closed the connection) 16.14.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.14.50 # He's on his way it seems 16.14.51 # you just give an interesting idea 16.29.23 # trtr3434: to concure the world? 16.29.36 # conquer* 16.35.11 Quit user890104 () 16.36.38 Join m1k3y [0] (~m1k3y@unaffiliated/m1k3y) 16.43.13 Join fkhodkov [0] (~fedor76@ppp-78-24-25-163-bras0.istra.ru) 16.43.51 # hmm, I am trying to build rockbox from svn trunk, but it is telling me that I don't have sdl-config 16.44.21 # You're building the simulator? 16.45.12 # If so, you'll need libsdl1.2-dev (or equivalent, that's the debian package name) 16.45.40 # Or the application, that will need it too 16.48.20 Quit m1k3y (Remote host closed the connection) 16.48.23 # Ok, thank you, works fine now. 16.48.59 # Can you update the wiki also? 16.49.14 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/HowToCompile 16.50.14 Quit Leif (Quit: Leaving) 16.50.23 Join Leif [0] (~LeifAnder@c-98-202-6-36.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) 16.51.22 # hm 16.53.07 # Actually, it says to look at the UiSimulator page for the simulator, and that page mentions this. HowToCompile needs more changes than that to make it really correct for the application... 16.53.26 # * gevaerts thinks that our entire set of wiki pages about compiling needs a lot of work 16.53.55 # CrossCompiliers is well out of date on the manual bit I think 16.54.03 # Should just be removed IMO 16.54.06 # Everything is there, but we have lots of pages with similar content and slightly different focus 16.56.03 # Ok 16.57.30 # yeah, the wiki is a mess 16.57.44 # in many areas 17.07.32 # Are the players on the market that come with dropbox ? 17.07.42 # I mean RockBox xD. 17.08.05 # XD 17.08.14 # Yes and no 17.08.16 # nice idea btw 17.08.34 # There's at least one place that sells players with rockbox installed, but that's not the manufacturer 17.09.15 # I see. 17.10.09 # We're totally independent, with no commercial interests to trouble our conscience :) 17.12.46 # I see. 17.13.30 Join user890104 [0] (~Venci@212.233.239.19) 17.14.26 # So what is this make zip all about? 17.14.49 Quit StefARM (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 17.15.40 # It makes a zip with a build inside 17.15.47 # silbo_: make zip makes a zip of all the files rockbox consists of 17.16.42 # reworking various wiki pages might be a good thing for DevCon 17.16.54 # yeah 17.16.58 # pop it on the list :) 17.17.11 # ah right, we now do have a list :) 17.19.30 Quit Xerion (Quit: ) 17.24.58 # AlexP: added. Let's see how many discussion will rise from that pages :) 17.28.17 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54B67C3A.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.31.52 # Extract the newly created rockbox.zip file on your target, reboot it and smile. ? xD 17.33.02 # silbo_: pretty much, rockbox detects if you unzipped a new version and will ask if it should start it 17.33.15 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: Destructor called) 17.34.04 # silbo_: Keep in mind that you can't use a simulator build on a real terget 17.34.07 # *target 17.34.15 # silbo_: no fareed house is in my neighbourhood 17.34.50 # I don't know what that means, but keep on topic please :) 17.35.05 # They are both from malaysia 17.35.54 # AlexP: I didn't understand how somebody should detect something if I haven't intalled anything yet. 17.36.02 # ? 17.36.34 # If you are installing, the instructions in the manual will be helpful 17.36.53 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@rockbox/user/Llorean) 17.37.52 Quit trtr3434 () 17.38.08 # Ok, quess I should check the simulator site. 17.38.37 # If you want to build and use the simulator, then after configure do make then make install 17.38.43 Join StefARM [0] (~dragoscio@81.180.209.34) 17.38.48 # (or make fullinstall to get the fonts) 17.38.53 # Then run ./rockboxui 17.39.58 # Cool it is working xD. 17.40.03 # nice :) 17.40.21 # if you are building a sim you can just do "make install" after make 17.40.33 # Yep got that. 17.40.48 # (with the correct configure switches install can work for real targets too) 17.41.23 # Should be fullscreen. Can't actually read the text. xD 17.41.38 # It is a simulator, it simulates the screen res of the target you chose :) 17.41.44 # The simulator has a zoom option 17.42.08 # ./rockboxui --zoom 2 17.42.56 # ou ok 17.43.04 # Nice one. 17.43.24 # Zoom 10 ou yea 17.44.25 # 15 is over the screen. 17.45.25 # Which simulator did you build? 17.45.59 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@f048016240.adsl.alicedsl.de) 17.46.09 # Sansa Clip 17.46.32 # Ah right. That's a tiny screen :) 17.48.53 Quit Topy44 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 17.58.34 Join krazykit` [0] (~krazykit@99-126-205-52.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) 18.00.22 Quit krazykit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 18.00.32 Join m1k3y [0] (~m1k3y@122.176.231.134) 18.00.32 Quit m1k3y (Changing host) 18.00.32 Join m1k3y [0] (~m1k3y@unaffiliated/m1k3y) 18.03.29 Nick krazykit` is now known as krazykit (~krazykit@99-126-205-52.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) 18.07.45 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 18.12.46 Quit u42p (Quit: Leaving) 18.13.58 Quit user890104 () 18.14.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.16.36 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@dhcp0101.kin.resnet.group.upenn.edu) 18.21.02 Quit Keripo (Client Quit) 18.23.01 # Is there a guide how to import files to the simulator? 18.23.04 Join sirrozha [0] (sirrozha@89.23.217.205) 18.23.50 Join user890104 [0] (~Venci@212.233.239.19) 18.26.13 # silbo_: import how? 18.26.35 # I mean like play music and videos. 18.26.46 # Does the simulator support that? 18.27.14 # yes, you can either put the files in the simdisk dir where it's installed or just symlink 18.27.28 # Ok thx. 18.30.57 Quit StefARM (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 18.36.30 # nice i just played minesweeper in the simulator 18.38.45 Join BiptoN2 [0] (~4cad70c0@giant.haxx.se) 18.43.54 # froggyman are you around? 18.45.12 # fareed, Have you played bubbles? For me anyway, the UI looks horrid (I'm simulating the fuze v2) 18.48.17 # is there anyone here working on the Pandora port by chance? 18.50.13 # not yet 18.50.27 # do you able to get out from calendar menu 18.50.40 # by the way im using the sansa clip simulator 18.50.59 # use U 18.52.19 # check the buttonmap for your target in uisimulator/buttonmap/ to see what buttons maps to what in the sim 18.52.30 Part akzfowl ("Leaving") 18.52.51 # n1s, Cool, thanks 18.54.08 # currently im using windows 7 and i have all the source code 18.54.24 # i build the source using cgwin 18.54.38 # did i miss anything? 18.55.27 # fareed, I don't see why that should make a difference. 18.55.44 # fareed, At least assuming you have the proper cross compilers installed. 18.56.18 # how to run rockboxdev.sh 18.56.30 # use $ rockboxdev.sh ? 18.56.44 # yeah, just run it 18.56.59 # it asks which toolchains to set up 18.57.40 # ohh i need to install gcc 18.58.06 # yes, the cygwin page lists what you need to install 18.58.21 # cygwin page in the wiki, i don't rememebr its name 18.58.25 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-178-203-73-7.unitymediagroup.de) 18.58.48 Part moontan 18.59.19 # so gcc is a cygwin component? 18.59.59 # there's a package for it 19.00.15 # but if you already built a sim you should have it 19.00.44 # or maybe i'm confusing you, you need a *native* gcc installed to build the cross toolchains 19.00.56 # which is what rockboxdev.sh does 19.02.42 # yeah weird i checked the component iit said gcc already installed 19.03.07 # ill try the native gcc method 19.03.13 # So, is the plugin API listed on the plugins page (http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/HowtoWritePlugins) comprehensive? 19.03.30 # (or in other words, is that all of the rockbox api calls there is to make) 19.03.54 # Leif: I wouldn't bet on that 19.04.11 # gevaerts, thanks...I just notice this: http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/apps/plugin.h?content-type=text/plain 19.04.15 # and thus, feel dumb now... 19.04.16 # no it isn't that's just a small part of it 19.04.24 # FWIW I think i came up with the ARM emulator project, but i'm hoping not to have to mentor it :) 19.04.32 # Leif: yes, that's the real one :) 19.04.50 # gevaerts, n1s thanks 19.04.57 # Leif: one thing to know about it is that it only has functions that a plugin once needed, i.e. it can be extended when you need more 19.05.23 # gevaerts, Cool 19.05.46 # It helps if the function you want is already available in the core of course :) 19.07.00 # True...but still good to know that it can be expanded if needed. 19.07.26 # If something you want isn't in the core, it probably makes more sense to add it to apps/plugins/lib/ 19.07.39 # saratoga_, I was interested in doing that project. Although aren't there already ARM emulators available, or are you looking for something a little more specific? 19.08.15 # Leif: the project wouldn't really be writing an arm emulator, but rather writing an emulator for all the other things on an SOC 19.08.43 # things like display, disk, sound, buttons, etc 19.08.59 # saratoga_, Okay, that makes sense. 19.09.20 # something like skyeye, armulator, or qemu could handle the actual Arm emulation parts 19.09.46 # saratoga_, Are you aware if anyone else has expressed interest on that project? (I'm preparing an email about it for the mailing list, as recommended to me last night). 19.09.59 # not yet, but its still early 19.10.15 # saratoga_, Okay, thanks 19.10.23 # we had one person apply to do it a previous year, but he dropped out 19.10.40 # saratoga_, Sad. 19.10.42 # :this native gcc is 80mb++ ? 19.11.22 # I've only taken a few classes on computer hardware, organization, digital logic, etc. but that project sounds extreamly exciting. 19.11.46 # Did the person just not feel qualified to do the project? 19.11.47 # fareed: i have no idea but didn't you manage to build a simultaor? 19.11.56 # saratoga_, (the person who did it last year) 19.12.20 # the simulator i download from link 19.12.21 # gevaerts, True. So I would assume that the process to get changes into the standard plugin API would be via the bugtracker...yes? 19.12.30 # speaking of emulator 19.12.47 # Leif: generallt it would be "write them" 19.12.48 # was it like mc6800 simulator? 19.12.49 # Leif: it was a few years ago. He basically disappeared, and came back a while later to apologise for having overestimated the amount of stuff he could do during summer 19.12.55 # and post a patch :) 19.13.15 # Torne, lol, that would be awesome if we could get code to write itself. 19.13.16 # Leif: include them in the patch that also has the code that needs them 19.13.20 # im interested in the ARM project 19.13.39 # fareed: ok, then you need to install a native gcc to be able to build the toolchains 19.13.45 # gevaerts, Okay thanks (on both accounts) 19.13.57 # Leif: so anyway, the failure of that project doesn't mean *anything* about how difficult it is 19.15.48 # Leif: i meant, the process would be for you to write the changes you want :) 19.15.54 # gevaerts, Okay. I'm not *too* worried about difficulty (learning new things isn't really hard, and I get the impressions that you chose projects you think are doable in a reasonable amount of time), still, good to know, thank you. 19.16.22 # Torne, Yup, I got that. (Which is why I said it would be awesome if code could write itself. ;) ). 19.16.58 # choose* 19.17.01 # i guess the big thing about the emulator project would be to make sure you're aiming for something thats generally going to be useful to future developers, so either something that can give useful performance data about code on arm, or that can be readily adapted to new hardware, etc 19.17.31 # just emulating some older player isn't so interesting unless it can be used as a tool for improving or reverse engineering future players too 19.17.58 # it could possibly be useful for debugging 19.18.14 # for tricky stuff that don't show up on the sim for some reason 19.18.18 # that too 19.18.22 # saratoga_, So you're saying keep a modular design, and create other tools to make new players/hardware easier, okay 19.18.53 # n1s, Ya, that sounds very useful. 19.19.32 # wouldn't you just write the relevant peripherals/etc for qemu? 19.20.22 # Torne, or some other emulator yes, unless absolutely needed, it sounds like a dumb idea to reinvent the wheel, if you know what I mean. 19.21.00 # Torne, But there are other tools that can be made to make it particularly useful for development of rockbox, as n1s said, a debugger would be nice, which I bet gdb can help with. 19.21.16 # Torne: probably that or Skyeye 19.21.23 # both emulate a few common arm SOCs IIRC 19.21.29 # i think it would be good to start with a target with some docs available btw 19.21.29 # so whichever looks less awful to work with probably 19.22.06 # n1s, Docs from you, or from the hardware manufactures, or both? 19.22.28 # (and by you, I mean the rockbox community in general) 19.22.38 # the emulators already have debuggers :) 19.23.16 # Leif: something with an actual manual from the SoC vendor 19.23.34 # it's somewhat debatable whether there's any point making an emulator based on reverse engineered speculation :) 19.23.38 # Torne, Oh, okay. So it really would just be writing the necisary components for hardware. 19.23.49 # Torne, Ah, okay 19.23.57 # Torne: think of trying to run the OF as a challange :) 19.24.03 # challenge 19.24.09 # lol 19.24.15 # saratoga_: indeed 19.24.16 # that would be awesome 19.25.04 # i was actually thinking it would be useful to be able to step through the OF of a new device and just log register accesses and what it tries to write to them 19.25.16 # wouldn't get far, but for something like a prebootloader it might be very interesting 19.25.32 # since it'd likely give you things like nand and gpio registers 19.25.37 Quit cjcopi (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 19.25.44 # i doubt you would get far enough to be interesting without being able to fulfil reads 19.25.50 # at least for most things 19.26.27 # reading chip ids and the like 19.27.12 # Torne, So you don't think it would be useful? 19.27.40 # hm? no, i mean i don't think it's generally useful to run the OF for a new device on an emulator that doesn't know how to emulate that device 19.28.12 # Torne, Oh, okay, that makes sense. 19.28.49 # Although it does throw saratoga_'s idea about idea about using it to learn more about new hardware out of the window, maybe, I should do a bit more research first though... 19.29.42 # oh, it's useful to see what it does with external devices 19.29.53 # what it does with GPIOs and so on 19.30.23 # mmm...okay 19.30.41 # but if you don't emulate the peripherals on the SoC then it's hard to get anything to work at all 19.31.49 # * Torne goes for pizza, anyway 19.32.02 # Torne, Okay, thanks for your advice. 19.34.14 # i just noticed that aac-he is almost real time on PP 19.34.35 Join Mudit [0] (~Mudit_Raa@210.212.160.101) 19.34.53 # hi 19.35.10 # looks like the HE part is under 80MHz, so we could probably use the COP to decode HE in realtime 19.36.43 Join bmbl [0] (~bmbl@dsl-217-170-203.pool.bitel.net) 19.36.44 Quit bmbl (Changing host) 19.36.44 Join bmbl [0] (~bmbl@unaffiliated/bmbl) 19.36.59 # Ugh. Headache. Probably induced by lack of caffeine. Good thing there is a solution to this 19.37.11 Quit Buschel (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 19.37.28 # piroko: please stay on the topic 19.42.29 Quit BiptoN2 (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 19.42.36 # Has anyone made a git tree of the svn repo? 19.43.07 # yes, i think there's something in the wiki about it 19.43.15 # n1s, cool, thanks 19.45.32 # n1s, Okay, I found it. (git-svn was being slow), thank you 19.50.22 Quit casainho (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 19.55.56 # n1s: Ouch. I think Torne mentioned pizza in one of his previous messages. You might want to get on him about that, too 19.56.37 # piroko: Torne said that to indicate that he was leaving the discussion 19.57.25 Join Knoppix [0] (~knoppix@cpe-76-94-2-56.socal.res.rr.com) 19.57.50 # gevaerts: Well I mentioned caffeine to indicate that I'm going to start coding. 19.58.06 # Ugh. Sorry, in a peeved mood currently 19.59.25 Nick Knoppix is now known as Mirs_dads_comput (~knoppix@cpe-76-94-2-56.socal.res.rr.com) 20.03.37 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 20.09.32 Quit soap_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.10.00 Join soap_ [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 20.11.22 # What is the Base WAD? 20.11.43 # some doom thing probably 20.11.58 # bertrik: we you going to commit that crossfeed patch any time soon? 20.12.32 # * Mirs_dads_comput curses rockbox 20.12.57 # silbo_, In DOOM, you have two types of wads, iwads and pwads. 20.13.02 # I believe it's complaining about your iwad 20.13.35 # And that is xD? 20.14.06 # Have you looked at the manual? 20.14.14 # saratoga_, I'm still undecided. I want to make some more measurements first. 20.14.20 # silbo_, Oops, sorry. Basically, iwads contain all of the data to run the game, and pwads contain some of it, thus you put a pwad over an iwad. 20.14.27 # bertrik: what was the issue? 20.14.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.14.48 # silbo_, So, what problem were you having? 20.15.03 # Just wanted to try play Doom. xD 20.15.24 # i'd probably just check the manual, iirc it says what to do 20.15.28 # silbo_, Ah, okay. The manual should have good information about that (also the rockbox installer should auto-magically do it for you). 20.15.29 # the initial version I made turned out to be off by a factor of 2 in the low-pass filter, the corrected version doesn't sound as good (too subtle) 20.16.28 # verses whatever the analog version of that circuit is supposed to do? 20.17.05 # yes 20.19.35 # isn't the best cutoff subjective anyway? 20.20.03 # hi what does it means when i tried to run rockboxdev.sh it gives command not found> 20.20.19 # should i redownload rockbox? 20.21.01 # fareed: rockboxdev.sh is a file, if you're getting command not found, does it exist in your folder? 20.21.28 # fareed: it's probably useful if you know something about basic unix shell usage 20.21.40 # Leif: Which manual do you mean? 20.21.53 # the rockbox manual 20.22.34 # silbo_, Which player do you have? (and yes, I do mean the rockbox manuals). 20.23.00 Join milk [0] (~milk@94-193-93-226.zone7.bethere.co.uk) 20.23.06 # the cutoff frequency influences the delay for low frequencies 20.23.08 # Leif: I have the Fuze 20.23.45 # i probably wouldn't bother on the fuze, theres not really enough memory to play doom 20.23.50 # silbo_, Then this page should get you up and running: http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-sansafuzev2/rockbox-buildch11.html#x14-17400011.1.9 20.24.42 # bertrik, So are you trying to do this in software, or are you actually building a band pass filter? 20.25.42 # Leif, I'm talking about a cross-feed algorithm, actually very basic, with just a single-pole low-pass 20.26.15 # bertrik, what do you think of the comment i made on the tracker about the crossfeed? leave both, label them "meier 1" and "meier 2" or something? 20.26.19 Nick soap_ is now known as [[Saint]] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 20.26.28 # Leif: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/11767 20.26.43 Quit soap (Disconnected by services) 20.26.57 # bertrik, saratoga_ Cool, thanks. 20.27.12 Join soap [0] (~soap@cpe-76-181-78-156.columbus.res.rr.com) 20.27.13 Quit soap (Changing host) 20.27.13 Join soap [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 20.27.45 # domonoky1: if you want to be accepted as a mentor, be sure to be in #rockbox-gsoc ;) 20.28.21 # saratoga_: same to you 20.28.22 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 20.29.41 Quit Mirs_dads_comput (Quit: Leaving) 20.29.52 # Llorean: and you 20.30.00 Quit saratoga_ (Quit: Page closed) 20.30.23 Join saratoga [0] (9803c6dd@rockbox/developer/saratoga) 20.31.11 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 20.31.48 Join trtr3434 [0] (~trtr3434@175.145.207.12) 20.35.37 Quit fareed (Quit: CGI:IRC) 20.35.42 # dfkt, I was really hoping to make a single "one true meier crossfeed" ... :) 20.36.14 Nick [[Saint]] is now known as soap_ (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 20.38.28 # one to rule them all :) 20.39.18 # understandable... otherwise you could make the xover frequency adjustable again, like the regular xfeed. which probably would complicate things again 20.47.04 Quit slooopy (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 20.52.57 Quit domonoky1 (Quit: Leaving.) 20.53.19 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 20.56.59 Quit silbo_ (Remote host closed the connection) 21.04.08 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 21.17.39 Quit soap_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.18.10 Join soap_ [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 21.29.18 # JdGordon|: I've checked the Theme Editor about the two grey boxes you mentioned. 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