--- Log for 25.03.111 Server: pratchett.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 2 days and 5 hours ago 00.00.57 Quit {phoenix} (Remote host closed the connection) 00.01.59 Quit GeekShad0w (Read error: Operation timed out) 00.03.50 Quit knittl (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 00.04.20 Quit efyx (Remote host closed the connection) 00.05.58 Join Paerox [0] (~Joachim@221.80-202-197.nextgentel.com) 00.07.17 Join icarusfactor [0] (~factor@75.108.68.114) 00.07.19 Quit bluebroth3r (Read error: Operation timed out) 00.07.54 Nick icarusfactor is now known as factor (~factor@75.108.68.114) 00.10.38 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@g224236094.adsl.alicedsl.de) 00.10.39 Quit bluebrother (Changing host) 00.10.39 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 00.10.58 Quit bertrik (Quit: :tiuQ) 00.12.47 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 00.26.25 Quit darsh_s (Quit: Leaving) 00.28.27 # rasher hello! 00.28.37 # yes? 00.29.24 # * mshathlonxp recently found this http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/7650?string=voice 00.29.33 # and I have some questions :) 00.31.47 # is that script still usable? 00.32.38 # good question 00.33.30 # will you figure that out? 00.35.04 Quit Paerox (Quit: Leaving.) 00.35.43 # Have you tried it? I honestly have no idea and don't really have much motivation to look at it 00.36.16 # well, what about lack of some targets? 00.37.19 # no I haven't, I don't understand really how files should be named - as contents of each "voice" string? 00.37.26 # and what about format? 00.38.42 # Yeah, string contents, as pcm wav 00.39.10 # bitrate? channels? 00.39.16 # shouldn't matter 00.39.31 # and I should expect voice file or error? 00.40.02 Join fyrestorm [0] (~nnscript@cpe-68-173-236-235.nyc.res.rr.com) 00.40.41 # Looks like it should try to build a voice file 00.41.33 # well, I'll try to do this in next few days 00.41.52 # I hope you will help in case it won't work 00.42.01 # after all, that's your script :P 00.42.24 Quit Hindu (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 00.44.27 # Did you buy the support contract? 00.44.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.44.44 # :D 00.46.26 Quit funman (Quit: leaving) 00.58.07 Join t0rc [0] (~t0rc@unaffiliated/t0rc/x-5233201) 01.05.28 Quit sideral (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 01.10.25 Join notlistening [0] (~tom@94-195-105-95.zone9.bethere.co.uk) 01.11.00 # Hi, I am running make fullzip with the android build system and it hangs, anyone else getting is? 01.11.28 # But when i run make -j7 all fullzip it works 01.13.28 # I'd say that doesn't do the same thing. fullzip doesn't depend on all, so it can run in parallel, which will give you an incomplete zip file 01.14.38 # oh okay, but i can not run it afterwards at the moment 01.18.15 # Right it is just super slow for some reason 01.27.50 # Right sorted ;) 01.28.27 Quit notlistening (Remote host closed the connection) 01.36.48 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.55=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 01.38.36 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 01.49.08 Quit Judas_PhD (Remote host closed the connection) 02.06.57 Join unfazed [0] (~dcfd07dd@giant.haxx.se) 02.07.34 # hi 02.07.54 # im getting network error when i try to use the rockbox utility 02.07.58 # can anyone help me?> 02.12.08 Quit unfazed (Quit: CGI:IRC) 02.41.58 Join Hindu [0] (d2d43df0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.210.212.61.240) 02.44.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.59.55 # why rockbox doesn't supports ipods clicker? 03.00.07 # or am I missing something? 03.01.21 Quit Dreamxtreme (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 03.07.47 # <[Saint]> mshathlonxp: It does if you compile a build yourself. 03.07.55 # <[Saint]> apple FS#5111 03.08.03 # <[Saint]> *apply 03.09.55 Join Dreamxtreme [0] (~Dre@92.18.105.11) 03.10.07 # then why it isn't in main build? 03.10.26 # does it causes problems with something else? 03.10.40 # <[Saint]> Because it’s nowhere near a comittable state. 03.13.28 --> "Hello sir" received from pak_nelson (~nelson@bbb72-0-168-79.bendbroadband.com) 03.13.28 # <[Saint]> If every half baked patch went into the core...ROckbox would be a barely usable mess. 03.13.28 # so what's wrong with it? 03.13.28 # <[Saint]> Read the comments on the task. 03.15.58 # its pretty pathetic that noone who uses it will do the bit of work to make it acceptable 03.16.07 # the patch is how old? 3 years or something? 03.20.59 # after some three weeks will be 5 years since beginning of that task :) 03.24.06 Quit Hindu (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 03.27.35 Join CaptainKwel [0] (~jason@207-38-215-126.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 03.43.01 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03.54.39 Quit t0rc (*.net *.split) 03.54.39 Quit m1k3y (*.net *.split) 03.54.39 Quit timccc (*.net *.split) 03.54.40 Quit sinthetek (*.net *.split) 03.54.40 Quit plux (*.net *.split) 03.54.40 Quit FoolOnHill (*.net *.split) 03.54.40 Quit olejorgenb (*.net *.split) 03.54.41 Quit Rob2222 (*.net *.split) 03.54.41 Quit pjm0616 (*.net *.split) 03.54.41 Quit aclonedsheep_ (*.net *.split) 03.54.41 Quit merbanan (*.net *.split) 03.54.42 Quit jfc (*.net *.split) 03.54.42 Quit FOAD (*.net *.split) 03.54.42 Quit pikytcus (*.net *.split) 03.54.42 Quit gevaerts (*.net *.split) 03.54.42 Quit CIA-2 (*.net *.split) 03.54.42 Quit aevin (*.net *.split) 03.54.42 Quit tmzt_ (*.net *.split) 03.54.42 Quit preglow (*.net *.split) 03.54.42 Quit TBCOOL (*.net *.split) 03.54.42 Quit ThomasAH (*.net *.split) 03.55.14 Quit scromple (Quit: Gots to go get me outta here) 03.57.49 Join t0rc [0] (~t0rc@unaffiliated/t0rc/x-5233201) 03.57.49 Join timccc [0] (~timccc@112.166.15.141) 03.57.49 Join m1k3y [0] (~m1k3y@unaffiliated/m1k3y) 03.57.49 Join sinthetek [0] (~sinthetek@unaffiliated/sinthetek) 03.57.49 Join plux [0] (~yogurt@h-34-156.A238.priv.bahnhof.se) 03.57.49 Join FoolOnHill [0] (~foh@adsl-71-69-118.bhm.bellsouth.net) 03.57.49 Join olejorgenb [0] (bronner@caracal.stud.ntnu.no) 03.58.17 # Looking at the patch (FS#5111) discussed earlier: "I'd really like to have this stuff commited soon,", nice. :) 03.58.48 # :D 04.00.55 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FFF0BC4.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.00.55 Join pjm0616 [0] (~user@sigfpe-1-pt.tunnel.tserv15.lax1.ipv6.he.net) 04.00.55 Join aclonedsheep_ [0] (~acl@c-68-33-70-133.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 04.00.55 Join merbanan [0] (~banan@c-83-233-242-230.cust.bredband2.com) 04.00.55 Join jfc [0] (~john@pool-72-73-80-12.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) 04.00.55 Join FOAD [0] (~dok@83.161.135.61) 04.00.55 Join pikytcus [0] (~bigd@failbox.co.cc) 04.00.55 Join gevaerts [0] (~fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 04.00.55 Join CIA-2 [0] (~CIA@208.69.182.149) 04.00.55 Join aevin [0] (eivindsy@unaffiliated/aevin) 04.00.55 Join tmzt_ [0] (~tmzt@76.211.0.152) 04.00.55 Join preglow [0] (thomj@rockbox/developer/preglow) 04.00.55 Join TBCOOL [0] (~tb@c-3c3671d5.09-42-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 04.00.55 Join ThomasAH [0] (~thomas@aktaia.intevation.org) 04.02.09 Join scromple [0] (~x@115-64-195-104.tpgi.com.au) 04.17.55 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 04.21.31 Quit kugelp (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 04.28.54 Quit t0rc (Quit: Give someone code, help them with one project. Teach someone to code, help them rule the world.) 04.30.31 Join Barahir [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590f51a3.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.31.28 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.31.29 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.31.35 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.31.37 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.31.39 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.31.48 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.31.52 Quit Barahir_ (Read error: Operation timed out) 04.34.28 Quit mshathlonxp (Quit: fall into sleep) 04.37.30 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 04.42.43 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.44.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.52.08 Nick aclonedsheep_ is now known as aclonedsheep (~acl@c-68-33-70-133.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 04.52.13 Quit aclonedsheep (Changing host) 04.52.13 Join aclonedsheep [0] (~acl@unaffiliated/aclonedsheep) 04.58.44 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 05.21.31 Quit Leif (Quit: Leaving) 05.29.29 Quit trtr3434 () 05.29.51 Join trtr3434 [0] (~trtr3434@175.145.205.97) 05.36.27 Join Rob2223 [0] (~Miranda@p4FFF1DE5.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.39.24 Quit Horschti (Quit: Verlassend) 05.40.00 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 05.50.47 Quit CaptainKwel (Quit: Ex-Chat) 06.04.41 Join slooopy [0] (~sloo@95-90-30-123-dynip.superkabel.de) 06.07.48 Join shnomin [0] (9e82350b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.158.130.53.11) 06.09.37 Quit slooopy (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 06.14.23 # Hello. I am trying to recover a bricked Sansa Clip+. I believe that I have successfully entered the recovered mode by bridging the solder pads etc. I am now dumping the original firmware onto it, but it seems to be taking a long time. Does anyone know how much time this should take? Any help would be appreciated. 06.15.41 # <[Saint]> even at USB 1.1 speeds it shouldn’t take long iiuc. 06.18.44 # <[Saint]> JdGordon|: regarding displaying the current/next track (if available) on the .sbs, do you think current AA is a bit “over-the-top” also? 06.19.16 # depends where you'd put it and how big 06.19.41 # <[Saint]> Not *massive*...probably only in the region of two lines of text high 06.19.45 Quit axion (Read error: Operation timed out) 06.20.01 # arg, your wps doesnt set the fonts manually 06.20.13 # im using 50pt in the lists and it breaks the wps 06.20.27 # <[Saint]> Not sure where I’d position it...probably immediately under the UI viewport and on top of the icons (with the next/current track info) 06.20.43 Join axion [0] (~axion@cpe-67-242-80-89.nycap.res.rr.com) 06.20.57 # landscape ui's are so much easier to play with :D 06.21.37 # <[Saint]> until we have conditional landscape/portrait switching...I don’t want to make a landscape .wps on a portrait Ui. 06.21.46 # <[Saint]> that’s be weird...not that I didn’t consider it. 06.21.56 # sure, I didnt mean to say you should 06.21.59 # just that it is easier 06.22.06 # hows the 1024*600 one going? :D 06.22.40 # <[Saint]> It can go a lot faster now that I’m further ahead with these other two. 06.23.05 # <[Saint]> I’ve been spinning the past few days wondering what the hells going on with this crazy mute bug. 06.23.29 # <[Saint]> I’ve been concerned it’s my fault, and endlessly refactoring code and shuffling things around in vain. 06.24.03 # pretty sure it aint a skin bug 06.24.19 # <[Saint]> what’s messing it up? 06.24.50 # <[Saint]> Also...how does my 50pt font look? 06.24.54 # no idea, but im still betting its the recent android volume handlign changes... 06.24.57 # nice 06.25.02 # <[Saint]> and, does there need to be any larger ones made? 06.25.21 # <[Saint]> (I can’t take all the credit...it’s Google’s work ;)) 06.28.37 # [Saint]: na, 50 is prob enough... can you make the ui vp extend to the right edge so the selector doesnt look odd? 06.28.40 Join scr0mple [0] (NFG2@115-64-195-104.tpgi.com.au) 06.30.46 Quit scromple (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 06.39.12 # <[Saint]> JdGordon|: done 06.44.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.04.21 # All right, I'm trying to DD my original firmware onto my bricked Clip+ again. Does anyone have experience with the recovery mode? 07.06.41 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:470:28:773:babe:feed:dead:beef) 07.07.23 Quit panni_ (Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )) 07.09.30 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 07.09.42 # shnomin: is the wiki not clear enough ? 07.13.07 # I'm just having some issues. When I try to use dd to write the original firmware, it just hangs and never completes 07.14.16 # Am I not giving it enough time? I know it is writing block by block, but it has already taken 20 minutes 07.14.48 # it should be a matter of seconds 07.15.16 # try reading back what is on the clip to see if it works / if it is fast 07.17.31 # It also hangs 07.17.51 # It only read 392 kB off of the sansa and has since done nothing 07.18.07 # the process has only taken 2 seconds and has since done nothing 07.18.20 # Any ideas? 07.20.21 # the clip+ storage is broken? 07.21.01 # I guess so. It shows as a 7.4Gb unpartitioned disk 07.21.10 # Any problem that I'm on OSX? 07.21.44 # no idea 07.22.37 # Well, thanks for the input funman. I'll keep trying. I screwed it up by trying to write over usb in Rockbox. I didn't even read that it wasn't supported... idiot 07.31.40 # not sure how you could break the clip+ by trying to write over USB when the OS can't see it. 07.40.15 Quit Dreamxtreme (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 07.41.05 # I think with the previous version of rockbox it still mounted 07.41.17 # anyway, I just had a success.. well partial 07.41.39 # I reformatted the mounted recovery mode, unpartitioned drive 07.41.53 # then I used dd to write, and it worked 07.42.49 # now I'm connected, buy the OF can't see the storage memory (says it has zero) 07.48.25 # All right! The file system was just all messed up because it still had old data. After an old-fashioned erasure by Disk Utility, the OF is fully operational. Now it's time to get rockbox back on this thing. 07.48.55 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07.49.04 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@145.116.15.244) 08.02.50 # cool 08.04.32 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4BD34.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.05.59 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@213.165.85.248) 08.05.59 Quit sideral (Changing host) 08.05.59 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 08.06.53 # Hey funman, do you have any idea about this one: "Extracting Failed: Unable to create a directory rockbox" 08.07.52 # Clip is in MSC mode and I sudo-ed the Utility 08.08.02 # try mkdir .rockbox 08.08.32 Join Dreamxtreme [0] (~Dre@92.18.105.11) 08.09.21 # mkdir: .rockbox: Input/output error 08.09.25 # hmmm 08.09.55 # I can make directories that don't start with a . 08.10.33 # This may be a residual of formatting it as FAT32 before overwriting the screwed up firmware 08.11.31 # format it from the of 08.13.06 # genius, I'll let you know 08.13.13 Join DX3 [0] (~Dre@92.18.105.11) 08.13.34 Quit Dreamxtreme (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 08.15.34 # Beautiful, works perfectly. Good idea. Thank for your help funman. It's much appreciated. 08.18.55 # shnomin: you're welcome, just tell me where to send the bill ;) 08.20.46 Join B4gder [0] (~danielx@2a00:1a28:1200:9::2) 08.20.46 Quit B4gder (Changing host) 08.20.46 Join B4gder [0] (~danielx@rockbox/developer/bagder) 08.21.47 # not quite that appreciated. By the way, what is the roadblock on USB support for sansaAMS? 08.22.15 Quit wtachi (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.4) 08.22.41 # New commit by 03Buschel (r29644): Fix error in Ohm's law formula as provided in FS#12023. Thanks to Leif Andersen. 08.26.32 Quit faemir (Quit: Leaving) 08.26.40 # r29644 build result: 3 errors, 0 warnings (Buschel committed) 08.29.33 # shnomin: check the wiki for links to flyspray, it's working quite fine for me but there are some problems left it seems 08.29.55 # and usb is fine on sansa AMS, only disabled on sansa AMS v2 08.37.16 Join webguest446 [0] (~629e759c@giant.haxx.se) 08.38.01 # Anyone rocking a iPod Classic with Rockbox here ? 08.38.05 Join mem_ [0] (~mem@dimension.datakon.se) 08.39.01 Quit webguest446 (Client Quit) 08.40.15 Quit DX3 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 08.41.56 Quit kevku (Read error: Operation timed out) 08.43.27 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.44.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.46.01 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 08.47.03 # Bagder, Zagor: hi, I found this channel after the nice Snaxx event 08.47.06 # Cool, thanks funman. Maybe I'll get involved in development. I'm a big fan of rockbox, but really only an ok developer for pure software (I'm a robotics researcher) 08.47.16 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:470:28:773:babe:feed:dead:beef) 08.47.50 # mem_: hi, welcome! join #rockbox-community for off-topic chat 08.48.46 # the more channels the merrier! 08.49.48 # shnomin: well if you can at least build rockbox and test it can help, check the flyspray links 08.53.29 # Will do. Have you guys considered migration to github? 08.54.04 # shnomin: no, we prefer running our own systems 08.54.40 # besides, we're still on svn... 08.54.45 # I get that, you could also host a git repository. I have just take a liking to git 08.54.53 # taken* 08.54.55 # we have a git-svn repo 08.55.51 # Nice. 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i have a weird problem with rockbox 3.8 on my sandisk sansa clip+ (v1), sometimes when I try to skip to the next song after having left it playing some mp3s from my sdcard for a while, it will respond slowly, and when it finally does and skips to next song (i.e. the name of the song shows on the lcd), it will stop playing 14.17.55 # or rather it will tell me that it is actually playing (i.e. the play icon is shown, and pressing pause/play does still toggle the button), even though it really isnt, it is just stuck at 0:00 14.18.33 # once that happens I can't skip to any other songs anymore and it will be stuck at that particular song 14.18.58 # i can only make it work normally again by listening to the fm-radio for a bit and then telling it to play some file from my sdcard again 14.20.37 # oh actually it seems that it does then when i skip to a .flac file 14.20.46 # s/does then/does that/ 14.23.09 # hogbog: You could try testing a current build - I think there have been some playback-related bug-fixes since 3.8 14.23.50 # 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how do I disable usb keypad mode? 18.22.42 Quit trtr3434 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 18.23.36 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 18.23.40 # <[Saint]> it’s called USB HID, and it’s in Settings - General Settings - System - USB HID - No 18.23.46 # <[Saint]> cozmic: ^ 18.24.59 Nick Hindu is now known as hindu (d2d43df0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.210.212.61.240) 18.25.06 Nick hindu is now known as Hindu (d2d43df0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.210.212.61.240) 18.26.44 # thanks 18.26.54 # it still wont let me upload songs 18.26.56 # :( 18.27.35 Quit Buschel (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 18.29.34 Quit LambdaCalculus37 (Quit: back to work now!) 18.34.10 Quit esperegu (Remote host closed the connection) 18.39.01 Join wtachi [0] (~wtachi@cpe-065-190-001-228.nc.res.rr.com) 18.39.27 # <[Saint]> cozmic: What OS are you using? 18.41.09 # xp pro 18.41.49 # i'm trying to install the newest version with the utility, but i get an error saying "Mountpoint not writeable" 18.42.30 # <[Saint]> sounds like you have filesystem issues. 18.42.58 Quit utanapischti (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2) 18.43.01 # hmm, the player getting mounted read only is usually a linux issue in case of filesystem errors 18.43.12 # haven't heard that in combination with Win XP. 18.43.23 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@p4FF2DA37.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.43.27 # but running chkdsk /f on the drive is still a good thing to do 18.43.29 # i get a Removable Disk in My Computer.. but it's empty 18.43.47 # <[Saint]> I’ve seen it *appear* to be write only, but come to think of it...I’ve never actually seem it specifically state that in an error. 18.43.49 # <[Saint]> Hmmm. 18.43.50 # does it get a rive letter? 18.43.57 # yeah, F: 18.43.58 # *drive 18.44.07 # ok, and you can browse that drive? 18.44.16 # yes, but it's empty 18.44.23 # i.e. you don't get a dialog box saying that the drive is not formatted? 18.44.24 # ok 18.44.46 # do you have itunes installed? 18.45.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.45.02 # nope 18.45.12 Quit Hindu (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 18.45.20 # then this really sounds like filesystem errors. Run chkdsk /f f: 18.45.37 # Cannot open volume for direct access 18.45.46 # <[Saint]> ouch 18.45.57 # do you have administrator permissions? 18.46.00 # yea 18.46.21 # are you using Rockbox USB mode or Apples? 18.46.33 # how can I tell? 18.46.43 # what does the screen on the player show? 18.46.55 # does it show a "do not disconnect" sign or a simple usb plug? 18.47.07 # oh it's Rockbox, shows a picture of an usb plug 18.47.17 Join Stummi [0] (~Stummi@rockbox/developer/Stummi) 18.47.25 # btw, what player are we talking about? 18.47.33 # ipod mini 18.47.59 # ok. Reboot the Ipod and go into Emergency Disk Mode, then try again 18.48.11 # are you using a front usb port or hub? 18.49.21 # a normal one on the back 18.52.09 Quit Topy (Quit: Leaving) 18.55.05 # so i'm using the apple usb mode now, and it wants to format it 18.56.08 # "it" meaning windows explorer? 18.56.12 # yes 18.56.51 # i tried chkdsk and it "recovered" a bunch of files with the ending .chk 18.57.04 # so when i open the drive in explorer those are the only files there 18.57.07 # and explorer still wants to format the drive? 18.57.11 # no 18.57.18 # ok, that's at least better 18.57.27 # did you have much files on the player? 18.57.34 # nah 18.57.44 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: Destructor called) 18.57.45 # then you should now be able to install Rockbox 18.58.02 # you definitely had filesystem errors. At worst this could mean your hard disk dying 18.58.19 # i see 18.59.53 # thanks for the help 18.59.53 # but the mini is a great device for swapping the hard disk with a CF card :) 18.59.53 # CF? 18.59.53 # compact flash 18.59.53 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@g228239069.adsl.alicedsl.de) 18.59.57 # sounds nice. 4gb is way too small :) 19.00.06 # I did that with mine like 2 1/2 years ago. 32GB space, no moveable parts, not too complicated to do and cost me around 100EUR back then 19.00.29 # cool. thanks for the tip 19.00.54 # there's a wiki page for CF modding players. Don't remember the name right now, just search for it. Shouldn't be too hard to find :) 19.01.14 # ok :) 19.01.36 # anyway, gtg now. 19.01.47 # later 19.02.07 # <[Saint]> http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/Main/CFModGuide 19.02.19 # <[Saint]> http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/Main/HardDriveReplacement 19.05.01 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@p4FE8F2A5.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.07.35 Join ezzieyguywuf [0] (~wolfie@unaffiliated/ezzieyguywuf) 19.08.32 # http://www.futurlec.com/ET-STM32_Stamp.shtml would it be possible to run rockbox on something like this, and if so, what would I need to provide in order to make that happen? 19.12.08 Quit robin0800 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 19.14.27 Quit casainho (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 4.0/20110318052756]) 19.18.42 Join Hindu [0] (dce36163@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.227.97.99) 19.22.14 Join trtr3434 [0] (~trtr3434@175.145.205.97) 19.22.35 Join madalu [0] (~user@unaffiliated/madalu) 19.23.02 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 19.25.20 Quit milk (Quit: baaaiiii) 19.28.12 # <[Saint]> ezzieyguywuf: that’s a very small processor.... 19.29.41 Quit swilde (Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)) 19.30.50 # ezzieyguywuf: no, its not feasible to run rockbox on a device with essentially no memory 19.34.07 # ezzieyguywuf: but your "request" is quite incomplete: this device has no lcd, no buttons, ... A device is much more than a processor :) 19.47.41 Quit L-Strife89 (Quit: <--- He went that way. --->) 20.06.26 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 20.09.48 # pamaury: I would add an lcd and buttons etc to it of course 20.10.21 # I'm (very tentatively) planning to build a DAP around the vs1053 chip and either that proc or an arduino. 20.10.41 # it'd be great to not have to write a player from scratch too :-P 20.10.57 # http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/546080/vs1053-simple-mp3-player <--- in case you want to follow along. 20.11.10 # and yea, and know the lyre tried to do this too. 20.14.09 # <[Saint]> iiuc he actually has a functional player now. 20.15.34 # <[Saint]> but he used a chumby board, which is quite higly specced next to the board you linked. 20.18.33 # ezzieyguywuf: get a regular arm9 core with 8-16MB of memory 20.19.11 # [Saint]: iiuc? 20.19.28 # saratoga: how much would something like that run? I'm trying to keep this cheap. 20.19.59 # few dollars for the components, no idea how much it'd cost to get assembled 20.22.11 # but if you want to decode audio and have an operating system you will need an actual cpu with multiplier and memory to store it 20.22.11 # http://www.arm-board.com/ARM-core-board/COM-SAM9260-AT91SAM9260 saratoga something like that? 20.24.23 # saratoga: well, I can still use the vs1053 to decode the audio, I'd just me ramping up the proc and mem to run rockbox 20.24.23 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@SEAS304.wlan.seas.upenn.edu) 20.24.23 # what? 20.24.23 # which leads me to another question: does rockbox do the actual playing and decoding of the audio files, or does it interface with a driver to have hardware do it? 20.24.23 # we play audio files 20.24.23 # except on the ancient HWCODEC players, which have no real cpu power and a hardware mp3 decoder 20.24.23 # ezzieyguywuf: Rockbox decodes in software on almost every device it runs on, which is why it can support so many formats on players that don't normally support them. 20.24.23 # Llorean: I see. so if I was going to run rockbox, I would forget about the hardware decoder and focus mainly on getting as small of a processor as I could to run it, right? 20.25.31 # yeah, you'd pick a cheap armv4 or v5 processor with a couple MB of RAM and do a port like to any other mp3 player 20.25.46 # I see I see. 20.25.53 # that device you linked above would work, although its a little faster and has a bit more ram then you really need 20.26.28 # saratoga: yea its also a little pricier than I'd like. I'd still need an lcd, some buttons and a case. oh, and a hp jack. 20.26.49 # actually, I'd want to output a digital audio stream, pre-DAC. can rockbox accomodate that? 20.26.59 # yeah sure 20.27.22 # generally we just output i2s to a dac anyway 20.27.25 # so whats the bare minimum processing power/memory nedded? that 8/16MB mem? 20.27.28 # what interface do you need? 20.27.53 # i2s is fine, I'll find a way to get that to optical or usb I haven't decided how I want to transmit it yet. 20.28.30 Join Keripo1 [0] (~Keripo@SEAS304.wlan.seas.upenn.edu) 20.29.00 Quit Keripo (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 20.29.12 # ezzieyguywuf: we have targets with about 2 MB of ram but i think at least 8 or 16 is good, price shouldn't differ much 20.29.38 # what about the processor? how much juice does it need? 20.29.48 # 100MHz ARM9 is the lowest i'd go 20.29.55 # 100MHz or so of ARM would do fine 20.30.03 # you can cut corners on processor and memory, but it'll make things harder for you software wise 20.30.27 # yea I don't want to cut _that_ many corners 20.31.32 # ezzieyguywuf: but you are probably not going to be able to build a player that is even close in price to a commercially available with similar capabilities 20.31.52 # n1s: so you're thinking I'm going to be well over $200? 20.32.07 # the digital output is the main thing I want 20.33.29 # that is a rare feature so it's hard to find in an available player so if that's important i might be wrong 20.33.48 # the old iriver h100 has it and that's the only player i know that does 20.34.03 # yea they're pretty hard to come by nowadays though. 20.34.24 # but if you can find a board that has all the stuff you need you might be able to make it reasonably cheap 20.34.56 # everything is very expensive in small volumes usually 20.37.27 # people who want to build their own players often want custom boards which makes things a lot more exensive too but if an already available one is fine... 20.38.13 # this might be easier: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/GigabeatCustomdock 20.38.46 Join FBI_Guy [0] (~fbiguy@pool-96-233-107-20.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) 20.40.20 # shoot, I wouldn't be against buying just the processor and going from there, i.e. designing the board in eagle-cad etc 20.40.22 # and if a board like the beagleboard is fine you can just run linux on it anyway :) 20.40.28 # oh waitaminute, thats what you said would be expensive :-p 20.41.01 # ezzieyguywuf: well, if you can etch your own board and solder everything yourself it can be cheap 20.41.10 Join cozmic_ [0] (cozmic@89-160-133-29.du.xdsl.is) 20.41.14 # n1s: yea that's what I was thinking. 20.41.31 # or if there's a big enough interest over on headfi or wherever do a group buy for the boards. 20.41.45 # are those gigabeat players still in production? 20.41.46 Quit cozmic (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.41.51 # NO 20.41.58 # sorry, no 20.42.12 # lol, I was like "jeez, sorry to upset him" :-P 20.44.12 # occasionally new ones pop up on ebay still 20.45.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.49.50 Join captainkewll [0] (2669ecc2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.38.105.236.194) 20.52.43 Quit madalu (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 21.05.46 Join Tyger [0] (~4b06b310@giant.haxx.se) 21.05.52 # Hello? 21.06.17 # ..... T_T 21.07.41 # <[Saint]> if you have a (Rockbox releated) question, just feel free to ask it. 21.07.41 Quit Tyger (Client Quit) 21.09.35 # bad timing x.x 21.21.54 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54A3A9FB.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.22.07 Quit parafin (Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish) 21.31.51 Nick kugel is now known as kugelp (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 21.34.33 Quit FBI_Guy (Quit: Leaving) 21.36.17 Quit Keripo1 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.37.41 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@SEAS304.wlan.seas.upenn.edu) 21.38.42 Quit Buschel (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 21.46.57 # http://www.armadeus.com/wiki/index.php?title=FAQ has anyone mentioned this yet for my project? 21.48.14 # <[Saint]> I’m not sure what you mean by that. 21.48.32 # <[Saint]> You’ve been in here the whole time, so, you can see what’s been mentioned no? 21.49.47 Quit evilnick_B (Quit: Page closed) 21.49.56 # yes but I can't recall :-P 21.50.02 # I know someone mentioned the beagleboard 21.50.40 # <[Saint]> your IRC client has no scrollback? 21.50.46 # <[Saint]> it’s all logged here: http://www.rockbox.org/irc 21.54.23 # it does. I was being lazy. I apologize for that. 21.56.27 Quit froggyman (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 22.00.04 Quit bmbl (Quit: Verlassend) 22.01.09 Join parafin [0] (parafin@paraf.in) 22.05.12 Join deeice [0] (ad0d7741@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.13.119.65) 22.05.58 Quit captainkewll (Quit: Page closed) 22.11.05 # Since we discussed it briefly yesterday, I submitted my patch as FS#12029 to define SDL_PAD keymaps for plugins on RaaA builds with no touchscreen. It's useful for the zipit build, and might be useful for the Samsung YP-R0 build. 22.12.35 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lem0n@ppp-171-147.98-62.inwind.it) 22.12.55 Quit bluebrother (Quit: leaving) 22.13.41 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 22.15.08 # I think we need a better way to define generic SDL on a PC app behavior, and allow for tweaks to that for various odd platforms, without having to define a whole new platform type. 22.18.06 Quit pamaury (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Discuter simplement. 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Which I had thought immediately after the HW button integration but put it down to a placebo effect. 23.32.43 # <[Saint]> ie. After I get blasted at full volume, if I then use the HW buttons or even RB's menu to set the volume as high as it can go (0dB) it's nowhere near as loud as the volume I get hit with initially. 23.32.51 # Rockbox' "0dB" was more like "100%" of the globally set volume before so if that was full it was probably the same as it is now 23.32.54 # <[Saint]> the default music player can go a lot louder too it seems. 23.33.15 Quit yosafbridge (Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)) 23.34.09 # <[Saint]> I think it's bugged as hell personally...I (and possibly kugelp) seem to be the only ones that liked the way it was beforehand. 23.34.20 Join yosafbridge [0] (~yosafbrid@li125-242.members.linode.com) 23.34.24 # <[Saint]> I wouldn't mind this HW integration if it actually worked well for me. 23.34.36 # I agree that the full volume at beginning is very annoying (and I get it too, no surprise) but I wouldn't blame the new system in general, it's "just" a bug 23.34.49 # So file bug reports against the problems? It sounds like you got two clear bugs (always starts at 100%, and doesn't use the full range) 23.35.04 # <[Saint]> "just" a bug I didn't ever experience until this HW key integration. 23.35.18 # <[Saint]> my "full volume" is also a lot quieter now, and that annoys me also. 23.35.47 # *gasp* a new way of doing it has bugs to work out. 23.36.39 Quit sideral (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 23.38.40 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: Destructor called) 23.49.21 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@adsl-99-29-196-104.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 23.49.21 Quit jhMikeS (Changing host) 23.49.21 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 23.50.53 Join bluefoxx [0] (fuzzylomba@S0106485b3917092d.vs.shawcable.net)