--- Log for 26.03.111 Server: pratchett.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 3 days and 5 hours ago 00.00.48 # <[Saint]> and I don't have a recording capable target remotely close by presently... 00.02.02 # uhh.. the only one ive got is the iriver h320; would ff/rw == left/right on the dpad? 00.02.17 # <[Saint]> YES. 00.02.20 # sec 00.02.22 # <[Saint]> sorry, caps. 00.02.34 Join wtachi [0] (~wtachi@cpe-098-027-060-223.nc.res.rr.com) 00.03.04 Quit krazykit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.04.25 Join krazykit [0] (~krazykit@99-126-205-52.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) 00.05.59 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 00.06.01 Join bluebroth3r [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 00.08.51 # * [Saint] hopes he hasn't unwittingly sent mystica555 off on some expansive mission... 00.10.50 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 00.12.20 Quit mystica555_ (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 00.15.18 # I've heard a quiet pop in the room after changing the USB charger on my Mini. Not sure what happened but could this be a failure of the battery? The battery menu shows a drop in voltage even with the charger connected 00.16.06 Quit komputes (Remote host closed the connection) 00.16.09 # there's no bad smell or anything visible. Voltage started going up after several seconds again 00.17.41 Join mystica555_ [0] (~mike@m442636d0.tmodns.net) 00.19.16 # <[Saint]> sounds normal. 00.19.32 # <[Saint]> when I plug my charger into my Color the voltage drops, then climbs. 00.19.47 # hmm, but what about that pop? 00.20.08 # <[Saint]> It could be a bad connection in the plug? 00.20.24 # <[Saint]> I've heard electrical outlets make similar noises to what you describe. 00.20.38 # <[Saint]> sorry "plug" may not mean the same thing to you. 00.20.43 # <[Saint]> "wall socket". 00.20.44 # I heard that a while after I connected it. And I never experienced that before ... 00.20.52 # <[Saint]> Hmmmm. 00.20.59 # <[Saint]> No smell, at all? 00.21.07 # that's what makes me a bit nervous 00.21.10 # <[Saint]> from the device, charger, or socket? 00.21.13 # no smell at all 00.21.17 # neither :) 00.21.22 Quit bluefoxx (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 00.22.08 # <[Saint]> I'd be worried enough to open the thing personally...it's a mini so it's dangerous to do so though :/ 00.22.24 # <[Saint]> unless you have a spare clickwheel ribbon. 00.22.33 # <[Saint]> or surgeons hands. 00.23.12 # I had that mini open several times already, so I don't worry too much about the procedure 00.24.50 # <[Saint]> I'd be looking for a bulging battery. 00.24.53 # [Saint]: sorry i got called away for a few mins.. i'm still runing 3.7 on my h320, would you need me to upgrade to a newer build for the test? 00.25.19 # <[Saint]> if the battery looks fine, then there's not much else to do...other than look at it cautiously for the next few weeks or so. ;) 00.25.30 # err i dunno what ver itd be.. revision 28763 00.25.32 # battery looks completely normal 00.25.47 # <[Saint]> mystica555: nah, that'll be fine. 00.26.27 # on my end, i have a standard selection 'lightbar' thing, and whatever it highlights, right/left changes the option.. volume, gain, etc 00.27.01 # im going to have to take this apart again... theres something rattling around insied 00.27.16 # <[Saint]> mystica555: right...ok, thanks. So I'll leave them highlighted and active in the .sbs during recording then. 00.27.18 # <[Saint]> thankyou. 00.27.23 # no prob 00.28.55 # <[Saint]> I assume it'll be a while before RaaA has recording, but if I get onto this quickly enough I can get it to the touch target(s?) we have that do support recording. 00.29.15 # <[Saint]> and FM radio will be similar I think. 00.30.37 # ok, Ipod reassembled and running again. Lost its time though. Let's see if the battery will continue to work properly 00.34.32 Quit Rob2223 (Quit: Rob2223) 00.35.49 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FFF1DE5.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.41.07 Join komputes [0] (~komputes@ubuntu/member/komputes) 00.41.43 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 00.45.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.46.51 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 00.52.19 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 00.56.31 Quit ender` (Quit: After that, anyway, I felt better, and didn't throw up again for almost ten seconds. -- Neal Stephenson: Anathem) 00.59.55 Join user890104 [0] (~Venci@6bez10.info) 01.18.52 Join factor [0] (~factor@75.108.68.114) 01.24.16 Quit wtachi (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 01.25.23 Quit efyx (Remote host closed the connection) 01.36.17 Join mrgemini [0] (~kvirc@cpe-75-84-198-23.socal.res.rr.com) 01.37.49 # I'm runing rockbox on a Sansa Fuse. How do I change it to default to the Sansa OS on startup? 01.38.18 # Modify and compile your own bootloader, that's not a standard option. 01.38.50 # <[Saint]> It's not for the faint hearted either though... 01.39.02 # <[Saint]> that is a step where bricking your device is indeed possible. 01.39.57 Quit Dreamxtreme (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.40.41 Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.41.21 Join Dreamxtreme [0] (~Dre@92.18.113.46) 01.42.25 # im no stranger to code. although i haven't messed with rockbox at all. an ideas where i can get some info on modding my own bootloader? 01.42.31 # <[Saint]> If you're lucky, there might be a patch floating around that does this somewhere...but I wouldn't trust it to be in sync with current svn. And after patching it becomes difficult if you want to report an error, as it needs to be verified on a supported binary (ie. not modified) 01.45.04 Quit u42p (Remote host closed the connection) 01.45.04 Quit komputes (Read error: Operation timed out) 01.46.39 Quit Dreamxtreme (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.51.39 Join Dreamxtreme [0] (~Dre@92.18.113.46) 01.52.30 Nick aclonedsheep_ is now known as aclonedsheep (~acl@c-68-33-70-133.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 01.52.34 Quit aclonedsheep (Changing host) 01.52.34 Join aclonedsheep [0] (~acl@unaffiliated/aclonedsheep) 01.55.19 Quit slooopy (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 01.56.16 Join maznos [0] (~d02b8ac9@giant.haxx.se) 01.56.34 # Hello 01.56.59 # I need help 01.57.14 # <[Saint]> Sweet, well...ask a question. 01.57.21 # <[Saint]> If someone can help, they will. 01.57.39 # I have an archos av380 and my brother installed AVOS firmware on it 01.58.05 # the readme file stated that to recover I need to get http://rockbox.haxx.se/tools/descramble.exe 01.58.14 # the file is not there anymore 01.58.22 # can anyone help me get it 01.58.32 # What readme? Rockbox doesn't run on that device, and Rockbox's tools shouldn't have anything to do with it. 01.58.41 # I know 01.58.51 # <[Saint]> If it's not Rockbox firmware, it's not supported here...that tool just happens to use a tool from the Rockbox SVN apparently. 01.59.00 # my brother used AVOS on my archos 01.59.12 # yes Saint 01.59.19 # I need that tool 01.59.29 Quit Dreamxtreme (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.59.33 # <[Saint]> It'll still be in the SVN. 01.59.48 # <[Saint]> though, it may well have changed considerably...who knows. 01.59.53 # can you helpme get it 02.00.24 # i am in deep problem now 02.00.35 # i need that file to solve it 02.01.04 Join wtachi [0] (~wtachi@cpe-098-027-060-223.nc.res.rr.com) 02.02.13 # Saint, from where I can access the SVN 02.02.15 # ? 02.02.52 # maznos: Google SVN, and visit the Rockbox website. 02.02.58 Join Dreamxtreme [0] (~Dre@92.18.113.46) 02.03.04 # Seriously though, this has nothing to do with Rockbox. 02.03.32 # If you're having problems with AVOS contact them, whatever it is. 02.03.37 # I know Llorean, I am sorry to ask about it 02.03.56 # but the tool is from rockbox 02.04.03 # I thought I can get it here 02.04.12 # Yes, you can get the rockbox source and compile it 02.04.44 # <[Saint]> sorry, I was away...yes, get svn for your OS, and checkout either our whole repo, or just the file you need. likely you'll need to build it, so you'll probably need the whole tools dir at least. 02.05.34 # can you at least give me the first steps to do that 02.05.50 # <[Saint]> we have some docs on using svn. http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UsingSVN 02.06.01 Quit timccc (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 02.06.02 # I am a newbie and this issue ruin my whol laste week 02.06.34 # Thanks Saint 02.06.41 # I'll give it a try 02.06.42 # maznos: I've put an UNTESTED build of it at http://www.evonet.be/~gevaerts/descramble.exe 02.06.49 Join t0rc [0] (~t0rc@unaffiliated/t0rc/x-5233201) 02.06.51 Quit maznos (Quit: CGI:IRC) 02.09.08 Join maznos [0] (~d02b8ac9@giant.haxx.se) 02.10.01 Quit Dreamxtreme (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 02.11.15 # Thanks my friends 02.11.23 # I got it working now 02.11.33 # * gevaerts removes that download again 02.11.48 # gevaerts you are my hero 02.12.30 Quit Hindu (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 02.13.06 # <[Saint]> we have a paypal ;) 02.13.22 # is there a way to look at the rockbox file system from my PC? 02.14.42 # It's a file system. So.. through a file browser? 02.14.44 # What are you asking? 02.15.36 Join Dreamxtreme [0] (~Dre@92.18.113.46) 02.17.19 Quit maznos (Quit: CGI:IRC) 02.18.02 # When I plug in my Sansa through usb i just see the regular sansa folders 02.18.21 # there is no rockbox folder 02.20.59 # mrgemini: it's named .rockbox, with a period, which means it's hidden in some OSes 02.21.02 # If it's in MSC mode, you may still need to set your browser to show hidden files as the folder's named ".rockbox" and some operating systems will hide that. 02.22.35 # <[Saint]> heh, remember what I mentioned earlier about the volume? something's definitely weird...the volume bar displays full at -60db 02.22.57 # <[Saint]> (it's keeps going up past "full" though) 02.23.03 Nick Loto_ is now known as Loaf (~nfs@xbmc/user/Loto) 02.26.08 # <[Saint]> Hmmm, I can't seem to reproduce that volume bar weirdness again. bah. 02.29.26 Quit GeekShadow (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 02.30.58 # <[Saint]> Hmmm....it's an edge case I admit, but...it doesn't seem to fit too well that you can't use the HW volume keys to change volume in the sound settings menu 02.41.08 Quit matsl (Remote host closed the connection) 02.41.34 # khm 02.42.00 # when putting video on my 5G with gtkpod, it appears that it wasn't copied to hard drive... 02.43.36 # Does GTKPod even sync the file format of video Rockbox uses, since it's not supported in the Apple OS? 02.44.08 # why rockbox format video? :) 02.44.29 # You're missing some words for me to know what you're asking. 02.44.43 # rockbox format video I would copy without any "media managers" 02.45.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.45.10 # So, why are you asking about it in #rockbox then? 02.45.26 # wrong channel :D 02.46.12 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 02.53.28 Quit mystica555_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.58.23 Join Hindu [0] (d2d43df0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.210.212.61.240) 03.12.18 Join coop66 [0] (~uggh@h133.221.17.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) 03.14.06 Quit Hindu (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 03.18.01 Join timccc [0] (~timccc@112.166.15.141) 03.22.06 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@165.123.49.243) 03.25.49 Quit m1k3y (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 03.27.05 # Hello everyone. I figured I'd stop by here to see if anyone else has had major issues with 3.8 on the 80gb iPod video? I've installed it several times, but each time I do I end up with one or many errors (depending on how long I use it before downgrading to 3.7.1). 03.28.40 # I'm attempting to note what errors I've been getting and what I have done to cause some of them, but there are some I haven't managed to reproduce. 03.28.43 Quit Keripo (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 03.29.00 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@dhcp0101.kin.resnet.group.upenn.edu) 03.29.37 # So far I've had several memory read errors, a divide by zero error (that I haven't managed to reproduce, I just remember it had something to do with playlists), and I haven't managed to get the database to initialize properly at all since installing. 03.31.50 Quit coop66 (Quit: Leaving) 03.32.02 Nick Loaf is now known as Loto (~nfs@xbmc/user/Loto) 03.43.11 Join L-Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@168.16.226.187) 03.45.14 Join teasp00n [0] (~40e4d02d@giant.haxx.se) 03.49.57 Quit L-Strife89 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03.50.10 Quit teasp00n (Client Quit) 03.50.53 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.55=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 03.58.39 Join m1k3y [0] (~m1k3y@122.176.245.82) 03.58.40 Quit m1k3y (Changing host) 03.58.40 Join m1k3y [0] (~m1k3y@unaffiliated/m1k3y) 04.00.59 Part t0rc ("Leaving") 04.03.08 Join L-Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@168.16.236.96) 04.03.26 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.16.18 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@e178061084.adsl.alicedsl.de) 04.16.18 Quit kugel (Changing host) 04.16.18 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 04.17.29 Quit trtr3434 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 04.17.48 Join trtr3434 [0] (~trtr3434@175.145.205.97) 04.19.22 Quit kugelp (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 04.24.21 Join mystica555_ [0] (~mike@71-33-150-232.hlrn.qwest.net) 04.24.21 Quit mystica555_ (Excess Flood) 04.24.38 Join mystica555_ [0] (~mike@71-33-150-232.hlrn.qwest.net) 04.28.36 Join [Saint] [0] (~st.lasciv@202-180-120-92.callplus.net.nz) 04.29.14 Join Barahir_ [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590f7f22.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.29.23 Quit [Saint] (Client Quit) 04.31.42 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.31.43 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.32.02 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.32.23 Quit Barahir (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 04.32.49 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.32.51 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.32.53 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.33.47 Quit mrgemini (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) 04.36.40 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 04.41.10 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.45.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.45.21 Part kpkarl 04.56.28 Quit trtr3434 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 04.56.52 Join trtr3434 [0] (~trtr3434@175.145.205.97) 04.59.25 Quit factor (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 05.09.30 Quit fyrestorm (Quit: Ur skills' fireproof like a wooden panel -- U got feds talking leet on your IRC channel!) 05.10.13 Quit trtr3434 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 05.10.21 Join trtr3434 [0] (~trtr3434@175.145.205.97) 05.19.30 Join msh_ [0] (~msh@5acba09a.bb.sky.com) 05.21.45 Quit mshathlonxp (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05.23.35 Quit m1k3y (Remote host closed the connection) 05.23.45 Quit msh_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05.29.20 Quit L-Strife89 (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 05.35.13 Join Rob2223 [0] (~Miranda@p5DE4B425.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.38.55 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 05.50.45 Join timccc1 [0] (~timccc@112.166.15.141) 05.50.56 Quit timccc (Quit: Leaving.) 05.54.19 Quit timccc1 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.54.30 Join timccc [0] (~timccc@112.166.15.141) 05.55.21 Quit z35 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 05.58.28 Quit timccc (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.00.14 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 06.03.32 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 06.11.52 Quit Leif (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 06.13.30 Join Horschti [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 06.16.45 Quit Horscht (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 06.18.36 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~PurlingNa@113.97.68.30) 06.26.10 Quit mystica555_ (Remote host closed the connection) 06.26.12 # Hi everyone! How to use rockbox_browse()? 06.26.22 # Thanks 06.27.42 Join yestin [0] (~yestin@c-98-246-46-164.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 06.27.46 # guys 06.27.56 # I'm in a sticky situation here 06.27.58 # so 06.28.02 # I have a macpod 06.28.06 # (3G) 06.28.14 # and no access to a windows computer 06.28.24 # only a GNU/LINUX one and a Mac 06.28.53 # I tried to just change the HFS partition to FAT 06.29.06 # but I just ended up having to format it 06.29.10 # and restore it 06.29.23 # is there a way to make it a winpod? 06.29.25 # there's a wiki page for that 06.29.30 # without itunes for windows? 06.29.49 # yes 06.29.59 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodConversionToFAT32 06.30.23 # there's a link to the IpodManualRestore wiki page too 06.31.44 # I have a 15 gig 3rd generation ipod 06.31.50 # none of the tables match 06.39.46 # krazykit 06.39.56 # what should I do 06.40.41 Quit yestin (Quit: Lost terminal) 06.43.47 Join yestin [0] (~yestin@c-98-246-46-164.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 06.43.51 # so 06.43.59 # is there a way to do it on mine? 06.44.12 # none of the partition tables on the wiki match my ipod 06.45.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.49.46 # krazykit: 06.53.02 Join FoH [0] (~foh@adsl-83-45-60.bhm.bellsouth.net) 06.54.28 Quit FoolOnHill (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 06.55.32 # yestin, i don't know. i guess find a friend with a windows computer? 06.58.21 # I'm doing some crazy experimental stuff right now and things seem to be going to plan 07.00.55 # oh nuts 07.00.59 # gonna restore again 07.01.04 # with my mac 07.11.48 Quit PurlingNayuki (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 07.14.02 # krazykit: after some wacky partitioning experimentation, I got rockbox to work in a seemingly-flawless way! 07.20.42 Quit wtachi (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 07.32.47 Join sevendeuce [0] (~sevendeuc@CPE00222d6e1f50-CM00222d6e1f4d.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 07.33.24 Quit panni_ (Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )) 07.34.18 # Hello all does anyone know how to disabe usb storage mode on a sansa fuze? My end goal is to charge and play music at the same time. 07.36.37 # Hold down the Select (center) button while plugging in the Fuze (if it's already on). 07.38.00 # hmm tried that already didnt work :/ 07.38.19 # thanks anyway 07.38.58 # It should work on any Rockboxed Fuze 07.39.05 # I do it all the time 07.39.28 # it probably has something to do with my car charger 07.39.43 # You may need to continue holding the button for a few seconds after connecting the cable 07.39.43 # i just verified it on my mac so :/ 07.41.23 Quit sevendeuce (Remote host closed the connection) 07.42.47 Quit yestin (Quit: Lost terminal) 07.58.29 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.09.22 Join timccc [0] (~timccc@112.166.15.141) 08.16.25 Quit trtr3434 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08.17.00 Join trtr3434 [0] (~trtr3434@175.145.205.97) 08.18.46 Quit antil33t () 08.28.09 Quit FoH (Quit: killing X) 08.30.05 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4B825.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.40.25 Join FoH [0] (~foh@adsl-83-45-60.bhm.bellsouth.net) 08.40.26 Join antil33t [0] (antil33t@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 08.41.35 Join mem_ [0] (~mem@dimension.datakon.se) 08.45.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.01.54 Join efyx [0] (~efyx@lap34-1-82-225-185-146.fbx.proxad.net) 09.07.27 Quit sinthetek (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 09.12.04 Join sinthetek [0] (~sinthetek@cpe-174-111-021-024.triad.res.rr.com) 09.12.04 Quit sinthetek (Changing host) 09.12.04 Join sinthetek [0] (~sinthetek@unaffiliated/sinthetek) 09.15.54 Join Stummi [0] (~Stummi@rockbox/developer/Stummi) 09.16.54 Join StefARM [0] (51b4d122@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.180.209.34) 09.18.27 Quit balintx (Read error: Operation timed out) 09.20.21 Join balintx [0] (~quassel@szerver1.gulyasp-koll.sulinet.hu) 09.30.56 Nick kugel is now known as kugelp (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 09.32.13 Join Cheng [0] (~8984fa0d@giant.haxx.se) 09.36.52 Join StefARM_ [0] (51b4d122@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.180.209.34) 09.37.16 Quit Cheng (Quit: CGI:IRC) 09.37.31 Join Cheng [0] (~8984fa0d@giant.haxx.se) 09.38.47 Quit StefARM (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 09.40.05 Quit Cheng (Client Quit) 09.51.31 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lem0n@ppp-99-149.98-62.inwind.it) 10.04.01 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 10.09.12 Quit scorche (Disconnected by services) 10.09.13 Join scorche` [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 10.12.38 Join yawny [0] (user36@pr0.us) 10.17.09 Quit niekie (Max SendQ exceeded) 10.17.15 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 10.18.03 Quit Galois (*.net *.split) 10.18.03 Quit elcan (*.net *.split) 10.18.03 Quit Farthen (*.net *.split) 10.18.18 Join slooopy [0] (~sloo@95-90-30-123-dynip.superkabel.de) 10.18.59 Join niekie [0] (~niek@CAcert/Assurer/niekie) 10.19.48 Join z35 [0] (~z35@ool-18bdad71.dyn.optonline.net) 10.22.55 Join JdGord [0] (~AndChat@124-168-134-48.dyn.iinet.net.au) 10.25.29 Quit z35 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 10.25.43 Join Farthen [0] (~Farthen@static.225.178.40.188.clients.your-server.de) 10.34.40 Quit JdGord (Read error: No route to host) 10.34.57 Join JdGord [0] (~AndChat@124-168-134-48.dyn.iinet.net.au) 10.35.32 Join Hindu [0] (dce36163@gateway/web/freenode/ip.220.227.97.99) 10.42.04 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 10.45.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.46.51 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:470:28:773:babe:feed:dead:beef) 10.50.12 Quit Hindu (Quit: Page closed) 10.53.34 Join jdgord_ [0] (~AndChat@124-168-134-48.dyn.iinet.net.au) 10.53.35 Quit JdGord (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10.57.59 Quit jdgord_ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 10.59.06 Join m1k3y [0] (~m1k3y@122.176.245.82) 10.59.14 Quit m1k3y (Changing host) 10.59.14 Join m1k3y [0] (~m1k3y@unaffiliated/m1k3y) 11.02.45 Join JdGord [0] (~AndChat@122.110.232.184) 11.14.18 # sideral, just a thought: on AMSv2 we always try put the sd card into high speed mode, this may increase the max current consumption of the sd card (it may try to drive the data lines harder, with more current) to reach the higher speed. 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16.25.07 Quit kevku (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) 16.27.22 # ok, found 16.27.36 Join StefARM [0] (51b4dfc5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.180.223.197) 16.35.55 Join wtachi [0] (~wtachi@cpe-098-027-060-223.nc.res.rr.com) 16.38.35 Quit Hindu (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 16.43.46 # AlexP: did you manage to keep a clear view of issues in 3.8? 16.45.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.52.29 Quit Stummi (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 16.57.57 Quit Xerion (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.00.42 Join Stummi [0] (~Stummi@rockbox/developer/Stummi) 17.10.18 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 17.17.45 Join manotroll [0] (~bd714157@giant.haxx.se) 17.18.38 # to a bug in rockbox-sansae200v2-3.8.zip he did not start the md5 error 17.22.12 Quit manotroll (Client Quit) 17.22.42 # gevaerts: I'm planning to have a look this evening 17.23.42 # Sounds like a useful plan :) 17.46.24 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@f049202039.adsl.alicedsl.de) 17.50.13 Quit Topy44 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 17.55.28 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 18.05.40 Join BHSPitMini [0] (~BHSPitMon@74.5.104.71) 18.10.24 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.12.18 Join factor [0] (~factor@75.108.68.114) 18.14.58 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.20.13 # I wonder about the sequence when changing an sd card into 4-bit mode: we send ACMD6 (set bus width) first, then ACMD42 (set_clr_card_detect) and only then change the sd controller into 4-bit mode too. I'm surprised that ACMD42 even succeeds because at that point the card is in 4-bit mode and the controller is in 1-bit mode 18.24.12 Join bmbl [0] (~bmbl@dsl-217-168-30.pool.bitel.net) 18.24.12 Quit bmbl (Changing host) 18.24.12 Join bmbl [0] (~bmbl@unaffiliated/bmbl) 18.24.52 Quit bmbl (Client Quit) 18.25.04 Join bmbl [0] (~bmbl@dsl-217-168-30.pool.bitel.net) 18.25.04 Quit bmbl (Changing host) 18.25.05 Join bmbl [0] (~bmbl@unaffiliated/bmbl) 18.32.43 Join factor [0] (~factor@75.108.68.114) 18.37.38 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust964.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 18.41.21 Join Leif [0] (~LeifAnder@c-98-202-6-36.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) 18.42.58 Quit sasquatch (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2) 18.43.22 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@p4FF2D1C5.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.43.40 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.45.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.48.28 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 18.52.51 Quit benedikt93 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 18.54.30 # gevaerts: http://pastebin.com/k3wxdeYn 18.54.44 # That's what has gone into the 3.8 branch since release 18.54.59 # I think it is enough for a 3.8.1, especially the PP ATA stuff 18.55.24 # I'll have a quick scan of the other commits and see if there is anything obvious that should be backported 18.55.54 # Is r29641 enough to fix the AMS issues? 18.57.06 # I don't know 18.57.17 # I don't think I have one to test 18.57.24 # Oh, I have a fuse of some sort 18.57.32 # I'll have to see if I can find it :) 18.57.36 # *Fuze 18.58.18 Join factor [0] (~factor@75.108.68.114) 19.05.13 # r29507 should be backported I think? 19.05.55 # and r29508 by extension 19.05.56 # 29640 is hanging quite regularly on a sansaclip+ for me 19.06.09 # just like the version i had on it before, ~2 weeks older 19.06.40 # i always have to hold power for a long time so the force off happens 19.07.50 # regularly as in: 2-3 times a day if i use the player a lot 19.08.06 # not reproducable with certain tracks or anything like that 19.08.41 # happens during playback. if the screen was on, the screen is frozen and no more sounds come. if the screen was off, the same with the screen staying off :) 19.10.11 # r29577 too? 19.11.48 # AlexP: looks harmless enough 19.12.40 # AlexP: pass me a link to a r29577 zip to install and i will give it a try over the next days 19.12.56 # wait, you were not talking to me 19.13.09 # r29644? 19.13.13 # u42p: No, sorry :) 19.13.19 # :) 19.13.38 # u42p: is the filesystem clean? 19.13.47 # that's it I think 19.14.03 # gevaerts: Which suggestion was the harmless to? :) 19.14.12 # AlexP: the upside down one 19.14.20 # Oh, and the resistor help one too 19.14.46 # I'd guess the bookmark one should be fine as well, but that's more core-y 19.15.35 # gevaerts: sdcard seem to be alright. no clue how to fsck the internal memory 19.17.12 # ooooh, my bricked clip+ just came back to life once again just asi was trying to open the case 19.17.25 # now displays "ATA error: -2" "Press ON to debug" 19.17.30 # * u42p presses ON 19.17.52 # haha, and then the case snapped back together and it was off again 19.18.37 # u42p: what's different about fsck-ing the internal flash? 19.19.02 # gevaerts: fdisk shows 4 unknown partitions for it. i dont know which ones to check with what fsck 19.19.43 # u42p: are you sure it's partitioned? 19.20.44 # fdisk -l : http://pastie.org/1718856 19.22.22 # * gevaerts nods 19.22.53 # That does indeed look like no partition table being used 19.22.59 # So check the entire device 19.23.22 # vfat? 19.23.38 Quit bmbl (Quit: Verlassend) 19.23.42 # I hope so 19.24.15 # now i get the choice between 2 FAT. "FATs differ but appear to be intact. Use which FAT ?" 19.24.19 # 1 or 2 19.24.47 # flip a coin, or look into a crystal ball 19.25.28 # http://pastie.org/1718874 19.29.26 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 19.29.40 # bertrik: no news from flyndice? 19.30.01 # no, he hasn't been online for quite some time 19.30.52 # i may have a bit of time tomorrow evening to work on amsv2 SD (only on fuzev2) 19.31.28 # anyone with clip+ disassembly experience? i got the case open and the battery aside. trying to remove the electronice from the frontplate is hard, is the screen "glued" on? i already "opened" the one clamp on the side 19.31.39 # it seems to work correctly now, so there's only the problem that you saw: high speed 19.31.43 # u42p: yes it's glued 19.32.10 # can i apply careful force to remove it or am i stuck now? 19.32.24 # probably the same like the battery used? 19.32.35 # I'm seeing quite a few things that are not exactly wrong, but not completely correct either in the sd driver. Fixing them works for me, but I'm not completely sure it works for everyone. 19.32.37 # i'd unglue it gently with a knife 19.32.51 # bertrik: you could make a test build 19.33.11 # or commit things one by one every week and wait for bug reports 19.34.12 # ewwwrrcch, got it off 19.34.37 # well, the screen is in the case but i got the electronic "off" it (cable is intact ;) ) 19.35.55 Nick scorche` is now known as scorche (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 19.39.13 # i think i asked it before but could not get a definitive answer: what exactly is the orig_image.bin on http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMSUnbrick ? can i download it somewhere? 19.39.21 # does high speed matter? For me at least even the OF on the Clip+ can only write to the device at a couple MB/s 19.39.54 # saratoga: perhaps we can get a bit more off the battery (just a bertrik's theory for now) 19.40.08 # by not using it? 19.40.18 # yes 19.40.24 # u42p: the OF you download from Sandisk 19.40.36 # yeah basically i was thinking that it doesn't seem to really matter for whatever reason 19.40.40 # (unzipped) 19.42.00 # funman: clppa.bin from http://mp3support.sandisk.com/firmware/clipplus/clipplus01.02.15.zip from http://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Clip-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-Update-01-02-15/td-p/150227 ? 19.45.36 # gotta go shopping, back in an hour 20.04.41 # yes, clppa.bin is the file to write back 20.07.00 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 20.11.13 # anyone familiar with the flac decoder around? 20.11.32 # if so could you look at FS#9186 20.11.41 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:470:28:773:babe:feed:dead:beef) 20.16.11 Quit trtr3434 () 20.16.32 Join trtr3434 [0] (~trtr3434@175.145.205.97) 20.16.53 Quit scorche (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.19.18 Join piotrekm [0] (~piotrek@unaffiliated/piotrekm) 20.21.21 Quit funman (Quit: leaving) 20.25.28 Quit Derreck (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 20.29.49 Join B4gder [0] (~daniel@81-235-141-52-no63.tbcn.telia.com) 20.29.49 Quit B4gder (Changing host) 20.29.49 Join B4gder [0] (~daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 20.29.54 # doesn't flack files keep a checksum? 20.30.52 Quit Rob2223 (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 20.31.25 # saratoga: looks like a simple out of bounds check per sample, not fault proof and won't exactly do wonders for performance 20.35.43 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@vit94-1-82-67-248-70.fbx.proxad.net) 20.35.43 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 20.35.43 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 20.38.59 # i believe there's a better way to ensure stability in lpc encoded coefs, i'll check it out 20.40.35 Quit StefARM (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 20.40.44 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p5DE4B425.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.45.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.46.11 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 20.51.14 Join scorche [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 20.51.53 # bertrik: alright, thank you! 20.52.44 # New commit by 03bertrik (r29647): AMSv2 SD: sd card communication speed can be changed back to full speed after CMD3 (SEND_RCA) 20.56.22 # r29647 build result: All green 20.59.08 # looks like the proper way would be slower anyway, at least on arm 21.00.01 # resuming http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMSUnbrick . i now have to bridge the pins. will a tiny piece of copper wire do? i'd say it is about 0.5mm thick or a bit less 21.00.54 # u42p, I just used the tip of a screwdriver to keep it bridged through the boot process 21.01.27 # ah, good idea. that should be easier to keep in place too 21.02.15 # wish me luck 21.03.28 # i see "Disk /dev/sde: 3965 MB, 3965190144 bytes" 21.03.52 # is the " It should report a drive without partitions, with a size of 979.75MB (approximately, there is some 1000/1024 Bytes rounding" for another device? 21.04.30 # could be 21.05.00 # hm no, i think it booted "normally". trying to "head" the device hangs. 21.05.13 # I remember a much smaller partition though, only about 32 MB, but I could be wrong 21.09.34 # tried again, same 4gb device. this time i can access it though. currently dd-ing to my harddisk 21.11.28 Join Hindu [0] (daf840a7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.218.248.64.167) 21.12.18 # u42p, this 4GB only appears when bridging the pins, or also without bridging the pins? 21.12.54 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@rockbox/user/Llorean) 21.13.58 # the device is somewhat haunted. it randomly showed things in the past (will search for logs in a moment) but i did not try to plug it in without shortening today. i am not 100% sure i shortened properly, it is somewhat hard to feel 21.14.26 # i did see a 4mb (iirc) device at some point in the past 21.19.17 # preglow: i tested and it gets roughly half a Mhz slower on the clip+ 21.19.40 # UNLIKELY macros might help 21.19.44 # maybe you could comment in that task? i don't know much about flac 21.19.52 # saratoga: i will throw in a comment 21.20.15 # i know of one other solution that might or might not be faster depending on div speed and block size 21.20.24 # http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20110301#17:54:15 (no need to scroll further), http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20110302#21:53:35 (no need to scroll further), http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20110306#19:01:44 21.20.28 # also are all of those checks needed? seems like if hte file is corrupted then just checking once and a while might work 21.20.43 # dumped ~600mb so far 21.21.00 # i guess it is the normal 4gb internal memory 21.21.17 # saratoga: it checks once each sample to see if the decoded sample exceeds the possibly dynamic range given the bit range 21.21.29 # saratoga: so using that method you need all those checks 21.21.58 # hmm 21.22.05 # oh, I probably know now why the order of ACMD6 and ACMD42 does not seem to matter: 4-bit mode probably only applies to data transfers, not command transfers. This isn't exactly clear from the sd spec though. 21.22.12 # maybe just checking for positive excursions would be enough then 21.22.19 # and 2x as fast 21.22.52 # usually it would 21.23.12 # it basically assumes the filter has gone unstable and explodes, spreading values randomly around 21.23.18 # yeah 21.23.25 # thanks to overflow 21.23.43 # well in that case why do we need to check all those different cases like in decode_subframe_lpc, fixed, etc 21.23.43 # another scheme would be converting the lpc coefs to reflection coefs, and checking if any of those exceeds +/- 21.23.48 # couldn't we just check some of them 21.23.51 # that can be done once, for each block, outside the inner loop 21.24.04 # but it involves divides 21.24.21 # +/- 1, btw 21.24.24 Quit slooopy (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 21.25.05 # saratoga: i wouldn't recommend just checking some, that would mean another branch just to pick out every nth sample, and introduces the random possibility of letting unstable blocks through 21.25.25 # ok 21.27.52 # i would go for the reflection coef method if it turns out to be fast enough 21.28.28 Join aclonedsheep_ [0] (~acl@c-68-33-70-133.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 21.30.43 Quit aclonedsheep (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 21.39.29 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54B6651D.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.51.55 # funman, we aren't using 4-bit mode for the sd in the bootloader, do you remember why? 21.57.46 # i/o error after i dumped ~2gb 21.59.31 # whatever i dumped looks rather different from the 4gb device my working clip+ has, if i hexdump it's head 22.00.26 # it looks a lot like clppa.bin (the OF image) 22.01.57 # gevaerts: Any objection to me backporting r29507 and r29508 ? 22.02.01 # the raw data contains the OF image at offset 0, with the user accessible disk data (file system etc.) starting at offset 30MB 22.03.33 # looks like http://upurs.us/image/24877.jpeg 22.03.38 # AlexP: it's not really my area. It looks like a suitable fix 22.04.00 # gevaerts: It is a pretty simple patch, if it works in trunk I can't see it being a problem here 22.04.33 # u42p, you could try dd-ing the OF image to offset 0 22.04.53 # to "refresh" the OF image in case it somehow got corrupted 22.04.53 # saratoga: this patch is from a gsoc dude, yea? 22.05.09 # bertrik: that would be simply dd straight to the device, yes? 22.05.14 # yes 22.05.19 # ok 22.05.26 # preglow: yeah 22.05.36 # he said he was interested in codecs, although not much more 22.05.56 Join mudd1 [0] (~cmertes@ip-78-94-202-227.unitymediagroup.de) 22.05.59 # except the file seems to have been played with since then; I can find the section but it isn't where it was 22.09.33 # saratoga: i'll just post my thoughts in the fs entry, then, and see what he makes of it 22.10.38 # thanks 22.11.38 Quit mudd1 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.12.18 # New commit by 03bertrik (r29648): AMSv2 SD: reorganise code to select 4-bit mode data transfer mode a bit and add comments 22.13.29 # gevaerts: ah, it seems to have been reverted in r29555 anyway 22.14.08 # New commit by 03alex (r29649): Backport r29577 to the 3.8 branch - Fix FS#11894 - Sansa Clip+ Volume Buttons don't switch when Upside Down is activated 22.14.16 # New commit by 03alex (r29650): Backport r29644 to the 3.8 branch - Fix error in Ohm's law formula as provided in FS#12023. Thanks to Leif Andersen. 22.15.39 # woooooot, "refreshing your media" 22.15.57 Join user890104 [0] (~Venci@6bez10.info) 22.16.02 # r29648 build result: All green 22.18.51 # hm, still refreshing 22.19.42 # saratoga: will probably fly over the head of anyone not well aquinted with dps, we'll see, doesn't hurt :> 22.19.47 # dsp 22.20.06 # * preglow goes for another beer 22.20.12 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.20.43 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 22.21.13 Join mudd1 [0] (~cmertes@ip-78-94-202-227.unitymediagroup.de) 22.21.50 Quit JackWinter (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.22.36 # New commit by 03bertrik (r29651): AMSv2 SD: wait for response to command SD_STOP_TRANSMISSION instead of ignoring the response 22.25.28 Quit mudd1 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.25.42 Join mudd1 [0] (~cmertes@ip-78-94-202-227.unitymediagroup.de) 22.25.42 Join JackWinter [0] (~jack@vodsl-9173.vo.lu) 22.25.50 # r29651 build result: All green 22.27.50 # hm, now i am getting the "4mb" device 22.27.59 # (simply connected to usb) 22.28.25 Quit liar (Read error: No route to host) 22.28.30 Quit Stummi (Quit: Bye!) 22.32.21 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 22.35.28 Quit B4gder (Quit: It is time to say moo) 22.39.39 # whatever i try now, i always get 4mb. probably ram, it is always slightly different. enough for today. one hopefully last attempt tomorrow 22.41.06 Part mem_ 22.43.23 Quit u42p (Quit: Leaving) 22.45.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.51.32 # interesting thought that it could be RAM 22.57.33 # bertrik: Iirc commands are always using one data line only, even in 4 bit mode. Only data is transferred across all 4 data lines 22.59.22 # yes, I realise that now, commands are transferred over the 1-bit CMD line 22.59.52 # preglow: Did you get any result wrt a better resampler out of thse test recordings? 23.03.28 Join Derreck [0] (~derreck@c-98-235-171-182.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 23.15.54 Quit Derreck (Remote host closed the connection) 23.16.12 Join u42p [0] (~v35b@d085198.adsl.hansenet.de) 23.18.20 Quit mudd1 (Quit: Ex-Chat) 23.20.17 Quit Buschel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.23.03 Quit u42p (Quit: Leaving) 23.29.39 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: The quality of my life is going straight up now that i have a shotgun.) 23.32.23 Quit scorche (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.38.38 Join scorche [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 23.44.20 Join FlynDice [0] (~FlynDice@216-67-59-18.static.acsalaska.net) 23.49.02 # bertrik: re: ams SD, The way I remember the thinking on HS was that If we got the data to transfer quicker the controller would be active for a shorter period since we were unclocking it unless a tranfer was going on. I don't remember if anyone benched that though. 23.49.30 # I beleive you figured out that the command line and data lines are separate.... 23.51.39 # 4 bit bus wasn't in the bootloader because it's really not necessary and 1 bit bus is simpler. 23.53.38 # FlynDice, I'm inclined to just remove the part that switches the card in high-speed mode. It's only half done, since it only switches the card into high-speed, not the sd card controller. 23.54.01 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4B825.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.54.22 # To do high-speed properly, we'd also have to clock the entire sd controller differently and actually handle the data phase from CMD6 (switch to high speed) 23.55.13 # I can't remember but I thought the controller switched automatically.... I'm really out of touch with this now though... 23.55.59 # And we don't *really* need the high-speed mode, since we're already doing 4-bit transfers (unlike AMSv1 which does high-speed in 1-bit mode) 23.57.10 # The sd controller does indeed synchronise sd speed changes on command boundaries, but does not automatically switch to a higher speed as far as I can tell. 23.57.52 # I've found documentation about the sd controller by the way, this controller is described in the user manual of the NXP LPC3100 range of microcontrollers.