--- Log for 30.03.111 Server: jordan.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 18 hours and 48 minutes ago 00.01.53 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@SEAS343.wlan.seas.upenn.edu) 00.07.15 Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.09.49 Join GeekShad0w [0] (~Antoine@ree79-1-78-237-225-34.fbx.proxad.net) 00.13.15 Quit JesusFreak316 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 00.13.22 Quit kevku (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) 00.18.54 Join ender [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 00.19.09 Quit ender` (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.26.20 Quit n1s (Remote host closed the connection) 00.30.12 Quit efyx (Quit: Quitte) 00.32.48 Quit bertrik (Quit: :tiuQ) 00.34.04 Join scromple [0] (~x@115-64-195-104.tpgi.com.au) 00.46.12 Quit evilnick_B (Quit: Page closed) 00.46.21 Join darryllambe [0] (fragione@bzq-79-177-241-74.red.bezeqint.net) 00.46.22 Quit stripwax (Changing host) 00.46.22 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@rockbox/developer/stripwax) 00.48.19 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 00.48.22 Part toffe82 00.54.48 Join Hindu_ [0] (~Hindu@218.248.64.170) 00.55.32 # Ah I suppose , my net conn. went off , sry for that 00.56.47 # Yeah , I was saying that I understand the kind of work involved , thats why I am constantly struck with this project 00.57.51 Quit Hindu (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 00.58.00 Nick Hindu_ is now known as Hindu (~Hindu@218.248.64.170) 00.59.05 Join fyrestorm [0] (~nnscript@cpe-68-173-236-235.nyc.res.rr.com) 00.59.06 Quit piotrekm (Quit: piotrekm) 01.00.55 # Anyways , thanks stripwax for your suggestions . I shall certainly follow them. :0 01.02.21 # any time 01.02.23 # happy to help! 01.08.09 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@f053153234.adsl.alicedsl.de) 01.08.09 Quit bluebrother (Changing host) 01.08.09 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 01.10.17 Join L-Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@168.16.226.187) 01.11.26 Quit bluebroth3r (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 01.13.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.24.20 Part Hindu 01.25.05 Join JesusFreak316 [0] (~JesusFrea@pool-173-65-59-203.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) 01.35.25 Quit JesusFreak316 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.51.59 Join bieber [0] (~quassel@node154.seg47.ucf.edu) 01.53.44 Quit stripwax (Quit: http://miranda-im.org) 01.57.31 Quit japc (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 01.58.16 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@dhcp0101.kin.resnet.group.upenn.edu) 01.58.53 Join japc [0] (~japc@bl21-182-164.dsl.telepac.pt) 02.07.47 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 02.09.31 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 02.13.06 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 02.28.59 Join factor [0] (~factor@75.108.68.114) 02.33.41 Quit japc (Remote host closed the connection) 02.51.12 Quit GeekShad0w (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 03.13.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.16.31 Quit komputes (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03.19.13 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 03.24.26 Join scr0mple [0] (~x@115-64-195-104.tpgi.com.au) 03.27.32 Quit scromple (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 03.34.04 Join [7] [0] (~TheSeven@stgt-5f73a719.pool.mediaWays.net) 03.34.08 Quit [7] (Changing host) 03.34.08 Join [7] [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 03.34.08 Quit TheSeven (Disconnected by services) 03.36.19 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@165.123.49.211) 03.39.21 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 03.44.57 # scorche: ban cenfdavuj 03.53.31 # moved 03.54.01 # timccc: If you're going to format your iPod's disk, DEFINITELY follow IpodManualRestore. 03.54.09 # timccc, the easiest thing to do would be to install the new hard drive and let itunes take care of reformatting 03.54.23 # krazykit: He is on Ubuntu 03.54.45 # that doesn't make my statement any less wrong ;) 03.55.00 # it just means timccc uses the manual restore or finds a friend 03.57.27 # Yeah 04.04.13 Quit nataku (Quit: Leaving.) 04.04.48 Join nataku [0] (~Kevin@dhcp128036205149.central.yale.edu) 04.06.46 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.06.48 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.06.50 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.07.07 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.07.07 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.07.27 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.07.38 # so http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodManualRestore sends me to http://www.felixbruns.de/iPod/firmware/ but felix's device lookup thing doesn't work. i know i need either 5.5 or 5(13) or 5(20) 04.10.54 # why can't you use the 5.5? 04.11.37 # is it correct for an ipod video 60gb? 04.12.24 # is it a 5.5? 04.13.19 # ! thats my question 04.14.10 # well i can't tell you what ipod you have 04.14.17 # i mentioned it here because rb.org links to a place that claims to have the answer, but doesn't 04.15.25 # did you try apple's support page? i think they have an article explaining what each ipod is 04.15.54 Join oldbushie [0] (~oldbushie@c-76-104-86-6.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 04.16.03 # hallo 04.16.29 # I'm trying to compile the Android port under Cygwin but I keep getting error messages about a missing arm-linux-androideabi-gcc 04.16.45 Quit [7] (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 04.17.04 # didnt it warn you about missing the NDK? 04.17.21 # I had tried running installToolchain.sh but although it downloaded and extracted the sdk and ndk correctly, it failed with a weird Java error afterwards 04.17.36 # it said that sdk and ndk were present I think 04.18.07 # i doubt that script would work with cygwin 04.18.24 # hm 04.18.47 # well, at least I *have* the sdk and ndk now, so I thought as long as I ran ../tools/configure && make -j3 with the right paths set I would be fine 04.18.55 # and I did confirm that those environment variables got set 04.19.10 # if it cant find the compiler they havnt been set 04.19.14 # hm 04.20.16 # timccc: If it's a 60GB, it's probably a 5 (not 5.5) 04.20.39 # timccc: That would mean you want firmware 20.1.3 04.21.09 # ya, i got it now Strife89, thanks :D 04.22.25 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.25.28 # well, CygWin's being an utter pain... 04.25.45 # does anyone have a recent build for Android? preferably 480x800 04.26.22 # I don't have a full-fledged irc client though so a url would be much appreciated, thanks 04.27.40 # * JdGordon is feeling generous.. gimme a min 04.27.51 # so the last step in IpodManualRestore tells me to 'mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sdX2' but mkfs.vfat complains 'mkfs.vfat: failed whilst writing reserved sector' 04.27.52 # heh, thanks :) 04.29.36 Join kugel_ [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 04.30.41 Join Barahir_ [0] (~jonathan@frnk-590fe027.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.31.07 # oldbushie: http://jdgordon.info/rockbox/rockbox.apk 04.31.44 # awesome, thanks! 04.31.56 # that should tide me over until I manage to figure out what's screwing up cygwin 04.32.04 # probably have to dick around with the main PATH 04.32.40 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.34.46 Quit Barahir (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 04.35.09 # hm, the logo was all screwed up when it first started, wrong dimensions inserted maybe? it does run though :) 04.35.26 # also, <3 AndFTP, I have an FTP server on my home machine and it's so easy to move files around 04.35.33 # I just got a smartphone for the first time Sunday 04.36.00 # ignore the logo issue, i didnt do a full rebuild from my patched version, it shoud have all the current bits though 04.36.09 # ah, gotcha 04.36.21 # should be enough at least to test if I can stream music to the phone 04.36.29 # I have an edna mp3 server set up 04.39.48 Join JesusFreak316 [0] (~JesusFrea@pool-173-65-59-203.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) 04.43.09 # oh, and I think I found out the issue 04.43.21 # the bins that *do* exist are not executable under cygwin for some reason 04.43.27 # thus why they're "not available" 04.43.45 # I guess I need a different sdk+ndk version to get things working 04.46.46 # oh, you know what?? 04.46.52 # I think this might be a 64 bit version of cygwin 04.47.21 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 04.48.08 # <[Saint]> oldbushie: don't waste your time trying to build RaaA on CygWin 04.48.16 # heh, ok 04.48.32 # <[Saint]> the lead developer of RaaA said a long time ago that it's probably not even possible. 04.48.37 # gotcha 04.49.13 # <[Saint]> Someone looked into it a while back, and there was a patch...but that was a *long* time ago and a lots changed since then. 04.49.20 # *nod* 04.49.29 # <[Saint]> I couldn't even get it to build on CygWin when it *was* supposed to work ;) 04.49.29 # so, I'm better off just using virtualbox then 04.49.35 # <[Saint]> yeppers. 04.49.40 # which is fine, I do have a Linux vm already 04.52.27 # cygwin is a pain in the arse anyways 04.54.29 # <[Saint]> If you don't use it for anything else specifically, it's a bit painful to set up for this sole purpose. 04.55.03 # well, I had already used it for something before, namely a font editing program, but yeah 04.55.15 # I should just stick with a vm for anything linux related from now on 04.55.25 # cygwin is slow as balls 04.56.42 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@165.123.49.211) 04.57.09 # hm, it's not playing m3u files 05.03.53 Join mordocai [0] (~mordocai@66.119.9.243) 05.09.27 Quit JesusFreak316 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 05.11.55 Quit L-Strife89 (Quit: Leaving) 05.12.53 Join Leif [0] (~LeifAnder@c-98-202-6-36.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) 05.13.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.15.46 # man, I haven't started this vm in ages 05.15.52 # doing a ton of updates 05.27.52 Join Rob2223 [0] (~Miranda@p4FFF370C.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.31.45 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 05.31.47 Quit bluefoxx (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.36.17 Join Derreck [0] (~derreck@c-98-235-171-182.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 05.39.44 Quit Horscht (Quit: Verlassend) 05.45.57 Quit Derreck (Remote host closed the connection) 06.01.01 Nick m1k3y|sleep is now known as m1k3y (~m1k3y@unaffiliated/m1k3y) 06.12.40 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 06.15.00 Part oldbushie ("Goodbye, Ruby Tuesday...") 06.15.22 # So, I'm just about ready to send my GSoC proposal. Did any of you have any of you who read it have any recommendations? (Too short, too long, not technical enough, etc.)? 06.15.35 Join DJeXeCute [0] (~4469c786@giant.haxx.se) 06.16.11 # I have a question will Ipod Classic ever be supported? 06.17.29 # depends how long you wait 06.17.57 # DJeXeCute, A quick search on the webpage: http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2007-09/0216.shtml 06.18.31 # Meh, actually, that's really old: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodClassicPort 06.18.51 # ^^^May be more relevant^^^ 06.21.02 Join ChickeNES [0] (~ChickeNES@128.135.100.102) 06.26.54 Quit panni_ (Quit: ( www.nnscript.de :: NoNameScript 3.81 :: www.XLhost.de )) 06.31.04 # <[Saint]> DJeXeCute: It's "supported" now. 06.31.19 # [Saint], Cool. :) 06.31.37 # <[Saint]> It's classed as "unusable" (it's actually very usable), but it's still "supported". 06.31.54 # <[Saint]> As in, "there is a functional port, that works, and plays audio" 06.32.29 # <[Saint]> there is however, no dual-boot support, and until *very* recently installation was a bit of a PITA 06.32.33 Nick mordocai is now known as debian (~mordocai@66.119.9.243) 06.32.39 Nick debian is now known as mordocai (~mordocai@66.119.9.243) 06.33.35 Quit mshathlonxp (Quit: sleep) 06.37.09 # Ok so how do I go about doing this I tried to install EmCore but it need me to boot it into DFU mode and my Ipod Refuses 06.37.25 # <[Saint]> I assure you it doesn't. 06.37.31 # <[Saint]> you just won't be doing ti right. 06.37.34 # <[Saint]> *it 06.37.52 # What? 06.38.02 # <[Saint]> if you plug in the dock connector, and hold menu+select for ~12+ seconds, it *will* go into DFU mode. 06.38.24 # It does but then boots back into normal Ipod mode 06.38.40 # <[Saint]> you're releasing the key combination too quickly then. 06.39.25 # <[Saint]> you need to hold menu+select, the iPod will reboot, *keep holding menu+select*, the apple screen will show, *keep holding it*, it will fade to black, *this* is DFU mode. 06.40.11 # It says Found new Hardware DFU blah blah driver failed then reboots 06.40.36 # <[Saint]> are you pointing it to the driver whn it asks? 06.40.41 # <[Saint]> *when 06.41.03 # Ok tried the USB 3.0 PCI card and it worked 06.41.22 # My Ipod now says UMSboot 06.41.35 # And something about a UBI file 06.43.36 # <[Saint]> http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/EmCORE_Installation/iPodClassic 06.44.29 # <[Saint]> DJeXeCute: follow that link, answer the questions, do what it says. 06.44.48 Quit Leif (Quit: Leaving) 06.45.02 # Ok I got the File but I see no "UMSBoot" volume its just a blank drive no files or folders 06.45.16 # Should I drop it straight in 06.45.18 # ? 06.45.29 # <[Saint]> the volume label should be "UMSboot", and it should be 64MB 06.45.39 # Oh nvm forget I asked that 06.45.53 # I clicked finish on drivers and it changed from Ipod to UMS 06.45.53 # <[Saint]> there's no directory called UMSboot, that's the volume label of the RAMdisk 06.49.39 # Booted into rockbox 06.49.51 # <[Saint]> congrats 06.50.06 # Now how do I get doom and gameboy emulators on it? 06.50.16 # Thats why I bought this 06.51.11 # <[Saint]> they are already there, for rockboy (the gameboy/gameboy colour emu) you need to provide your own ROMs, and we can't talk about that here unless it's legal homebrew. 06.51.23 # <[Saint]> and for doom, you need to freedoom WAD from our extras page. 06.51.48 # There nothing under Games apps or demos though there already on there? 06.52.05 # And I already have my roms pulled from cart 06.52.18 # <[Saint]> what? there's *nothing* under games apps or demos? 06.52.27 # Nope 06.52.34 # <[Saint]> Hmmm. 06.52.37 # You can go any further then plugins 06.52.53 # can"t 06.54.26 # <[Saint]> TheSeven: This sounds like your area of expertise...I'm not *that* clued up on how complete the Classic port is, but I assumed that plugins would "just work" from what's already there with the Video port. ^ 06.54.59 # <[Saint]> DJeXeCute: TheSeven is the lead developer of that port, he's been pinged now...so if he can answer he will, but you might have to idle here for a while. 06.55.58 # Thats fine 06.56.33 # I just want to use this for music, movies, homebrew, and gameboy games thats all so I can wait 06.59.14 # Oh theres no .rockbox directory 06.59.53 # Is there something I could just drop in like the video's .rockbox folder? 07.00.39 # <[Saint]> there's no .rockbox dir? What OS are you using? 07.01.15 # Windows XP but its my ipod that says it 07.01.25 # Rockbock is giving me the no .rockbox error 07.01.58 # "No .rockbox Directory" "Installation Incomplete" 07.02.24 # Thats what it says when i try to play a song I dropped on it 07.02.49 # <[Saint]> has it been rebooted since the installation? 07.03.36 # Yep 07.04.07 # * [Saint] shrugs 07.04.23 # <[Saint]> Sorry, this has definitely moved into TheSeven's feild of expertise ;) 07.05.07 # Crap how can i get it back to DFU to reformat it as a normal Ipod? 07.05.26 Quit mordocai (Quit: Leaving) 07.06.25 # <[Saint]> Uninstallation is another reasonably tricky subject (it just got a lot easier, thanks to TheSeven's recent work), but it's almost certainly best to wait for him to confirm how to resotre the device. 07.06.47 # Crap I broke my brand new ipod 07.07.01 # <[Saint]> No, it's recoverable. 07.07.22 # You sure? 07.07.29 # <[Saint]> You just need someone with more insight into it's inner workings than I. 07.07.52 # <[Saint]> And yes, anything past the Nano3G has DFU mode and can be recovered. 07.07.58 # I held down select and menu for 40 seconds and all it did was reboot into emCore 07.08.05 # <[Saint]> (unless it's a serious HW error, which this is not) 07.08.11 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4AE89.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.12.35 # I wish I would have looked into this more before buying the classic or I would have just got a ipod video and a 160gig replacement drive 07.13.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.18.05 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 07.23.50 # * [Saint] wonders if any sweetheart has a "mute-bug free" (r29653+) RaaA build for 240x320 precompiled. 07.24.15 # <[Saint]> JdGordon: what's the state of your res-independant build? 07.24.54 # fucked if I know... I didnt get any sort of answer last night, android is stopping me committing it 07.25.16 # * JdGordon can do a 240x320 for you 07.25.23 Quit eGen_ (Quit: ... gettin' screew my wife ....) 07.25.41 # <[Saint]> when it's in, you could still specify a build at X res? or all .apk's become massive? 07.25.53 # <[Saint]> not that I mind the latter, I've got a lot of space left. 07.26.18 # when its in plugins are excluded from the build which is why im hesitant 07.26.32 # otherwise what ends up in the zip is up to whoever is making the zip 07.27.05 # <[Saint]> Ah...right. It's only random_folder_advance_config which is broken with symlinks, and coverflow 07.27.32 # <[Saint]> errr...pictureflow (don't sue, don't sue! ;)) 07.27.36 # [Saint]: http://jdgordon.info/rockbox/rockbox.apk 07.27.38 # and credits 07.27.57 # <[Saint]> ah, yeah...credits is one that matters if it's borked I guess. 07.28.19 # <[Saint]> thanks for the build 07.29.12 # RFA config will work as it only uses the standard list widgets 07.29.26 # credits really shuold be reworked to use the multi screen api 07.29.36 # and i dont particularly care about pictureflow 07.29.56 # I have a way to fix my ipod now but it won't show as connected now 07.30.09 # <[Saint]> It's nice to have...but it's one of those things I kinda know that if it gets broken, someone will fix it. 07.30.19 # <[Saint]> (re: pictureflow) 07.34.41 Quit aclonedsheep_ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 07.46.05 Join eGen_ [0] (generat0r@gate.mmdecin.cz) 07.48.06 # * [Saint] wonders what the (seemingly arbitrary) count up to 206 is during RaaA installation. 07.48.17 # <[Saint]> "Installing */206" 07.49.17 Quit wtachi (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.4) 07.50.08 # files in the zip *probab;y* 07.50.10 Join rigoletto [0] (~Misanthro@p3E9BE7E4.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.52.40 # <[Saint]> it'd probably be of more use if that was converted to a percentile. 07.52.49 # <[Saint]> which, shouldn't be hard to represent. 07.59.30 Quit kkit|sh (Remote host closed the connection) 08.01.59 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@87-206-240-131.dynamic.chello.pl) 08.05.04 Join mem_ [0] (~mem@dimension.datakon.se) 08.10.43 Join kkit|sh [0] (~kkit@li135-248.members.linode.com) 08.22.32 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 08.27.56 Quit rasher (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 08.31.39 Join B4gder [0] (~danielx@2a00:1a28:1200:9::2) 08.31.39 Quit B4gder (Changing host) 08.31.39 Join B4gder [0] (~danielx@rockbox/developer/bagder) 08.33.43 Quit bieber (Remote host closed the connection) 08.34.30 Join efyx [0] (~efyx@lap34-1-82-225-185-146.fbx.proxad.net) 08.35.12 Join rasher [0] (~rasher@rockbox/developer/rasher) 08.41.37 Join silbo [0] (~quassel@193.40.194.207) 08.44.56 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 08.44.56 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 08.44.56 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 08.50.16 # hey 08.51.20 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 08.53.40 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@giant.haxx.se) 08.53.40 Quit LinusN (Changing host) 08.53.40 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 08.59.26 # I was just wondering which of them is more critical and essential: Codec Library and Optimization or Standalone playback core/library 09.04.52 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@p57A97B41.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.09.59 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.13.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.16.26 Join mystica555_ [0] (~Mike@71-33-156-41.hlrn.qwest.net) 09.19.27 Quit mystica555 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 09.23.13 Quit scr0mple (Quit: Gots to go get me outta here) 09.23.55 Quit rigoletto (Remote host closed the connection) 09.24.19 Join scromple [0] (~x@115-64-195-104.tpgi.com.au) 09.27.52 Quit scromple (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.28.13 Quit bertrik (Quit: :tiuQ) 09.34.21 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:470:28:773:babe:feed:dead:beef) 09.35.06 Join swilde [0] (~wilde@aktaia.intevation.org) 09.42.01 Quit Rob2223 (Remote host closed the connection) 09.42.15 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FFF370C.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.51.25 Join sampattuzzi [0] (~sam@92.26.121.226) 09.52.02 Join sampattuzzi2 [0] (~yaaic@92.26.121.226) 09.53.47 # silbo: standalone playback is probably more interesting 09.54.20 # JdGordon: ok 09.56.57 Join antil33t [0] (antil33t@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 09.58.13 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 10.00.18 Quit nataku (Quit: Leaving.) 10.02.34 # JdGordon: So as I understand this playback is enrooted to the rockbox kernel 10.03.10 # no 10.03.21 # it's just very entangled with the application code 10.03.30 # ok 10.03.47 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 10.04.32 # so the goal of the standalone project is to make a fully working standalone playback project 10.04.50 # with as minimal an interface as possible 10.05.58 # I'd say the goal is rather to make rockbox use this library 10.06.12 # I guess it can be debated though 10.07.08 Quit sampattuzzi2 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 10.07.15 # in any case, I'd say the library should not be a fork 10.10.03 # ok 10.16.05 Quit sampattuzzi (Quit: Ex-Chat) 10.16.09 Join sampattuzzi2 [0] (~yaaic@92.26.121.226) 10.16.09 Quit sampattuzzi2 (Client Quit) 10.16.34 Join sampattuzzi [0] (~yaaic@92.26.121.226) 10.18.20 # And which functionality does it need to have included 10.18.57 # like you give it a mp3 file and you say play() forward() backward() get_curr_time() and so on? 10.19.26 # it needs to include all rockbox playback features 10.19.40 # ok understood 10.19.58 # we want the current code, just layered into a tidy library 10.20.43 # defining the library api is a big part of the task 10.21.00 # ok, sound like a pretty cool project 10.21.04 # sounds* 10.28.04 Join mrguser [0] (~mirggi@217.118.78.122) 10.29.49 Quit jordan` (Quit: Coyote finally caught me) 10.32.05 Quit niekie (Read error: Operation timed out) 10.32.10 Quit cjcopi (Read error: Operation timed out) 10.32.42 Join cjcopi [0] (~craig@charon.craig.copi.org) 10.33.14 Join niekie [0] (~niek@CAcert/Assurer/niekie) 10.38.13 # Zagor: sorry, but I did not understand if one of the goals is that this library could be used by other projects 10.38.30 Quit sampattuzzi (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 10.39.34 # silbo: well, that could be a goal, the bigger one (arguable of course) is to make debugging out playback more easy. right now its almost impossible 10.39.49 Quit Keripo (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 10.39.52 # getting the actual playback engine otside of the rest of rockbox gives us more options 10.39.53 # i see 10.40.25 # yes, external use is just one of the options a library would provice. 10.41.21 # I'm not sure where the break would be though.. at buffering or below it? 10.42.11 # the library needs to include the buffering 10.43.57 # well hang on, why? 10.44.11 # give the buffering a good API and it could be easily replaced also 10.45.08 # sure, if/when you have layered the buffering that can be done. but not before. 10.45.30 # i thought buffering actually had a reasonable api now? 10.47.05 Join jordan` [0] (gromit@2a01:e34:eebf:c890:21a:4dff:fe63:6966) 10.47.49 # yes. I'm just not confident it can be replaced easily. no work or tests in that direction has been done afaik. 10.49.25 # <[Saint]> JhMikes work greatly simplified the buffering system iiuc 10.49.49 # <[Saint]> Not sure that means much in the respect of how easy it will be to achieve this, though. 10.50.55 # the rockbox library needs buffering code. until we can offer rockbox-compatible buffering code separately, the logical solution is to bundle it with the library 10.51.09 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@165.123.49.211) 10.51.19 # having test code or third-party apps implement it would be quite burdensome 10.51.36 # I agree that it seems logical to start off seeing them as one 10.53.02 # There's also of course the possibility of someone working on buffering too. Not wanting to refactor it at the same time that someone else is extending/changing it makes sense 10.55.09 # anyone have any idea how the API would look? that a good qualification task? 10.57.27 # it's probably a good qualifier. the library task requires rather deep knowledge of gritty rockbox internals. the api design would give an indication how much of it an applicant grasps. 10.58.18 # I have been sceptical about having it as a gsoc task at all, due to the intimate rockbox knowledge required 10.58.53 # but I'd be happy to be proven wrong 10.58.57 # can it be broken down to smaller tasks? or is it really all or nothing? 10.59.11 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 11.02.43 # Can someone ban denki75? 11.02.54 # I'm not sure "layering" smaller code portions out of the application code is necessarily making the job easier. you'd have to define a new api for each new code segment. 11.05.44 # * B4gder thinks gevaerts should get banning superpowers in the forum... scorche? 11.06.20 # * JdGordon too while you're at it... 11.06.32 # considering the timezones and me being online pretty much all day 11.06.44 # yes 11.07.58 # gevaerts: done 11.11.18 # * [Saint] decides to start chewing over the skin var code needed for the popups in the .wps and .sbs 11.11.32 # <[Saint]> and also the new .sbs conditional viewport panel. 11.12.40 Nick mrguser is now known as leavittx (~mirggi@217.118.78.122) 11.13.30 # <[Saint]> Hmmm...I also wonder if I have the coding chops required to kick %cs in the arse and add the missing screen(s) to it. 11.13.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.14.04 # <[Saint]> quickscreen, , 11.16.46 # * JdGordon remembers thinking about that, cant remember if it was commited? 11.16.56 # <[Saint]> nup 11.17.26 # <[Saint]> Oh..yeah, that's right..you did do some work there no? 11.18.10 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 11.18.15 # <[Saint]> Aha...right, yes, now I remember something too 11.18.28 # i cant remember how far it got 11.18.31 # <[Saint]> %Ts 's timeout is borked. 11.18.40 # I actually ihnk i asked about it and got no response 11.18.44 # %Ts? 11.18.51 # <[Saint]> I was *supposed* to put that on the tracker but I forgot. 11.19.01 # <[Saint]> shit %Tl 11.19.12 # <[Saint]> rather 11.20.09 # <[Saint]> JdGordon: Nope...you *did* do something 11.20.16 # <[Saint]> FS#11925 11.20.35 Quit fyrestorm (Quit: Ur skills' fireproof like a wooden panel -- U got feds talking leet on your IRC channel!) 11.21.14 # cool! :p 11.21.20 # <[Saint]> hehe 11.21.47 # <[Saint]> "here's one I prepared earlier" 11.25.25 # that patch is mostly done, it just needs more calls to change screens which you should be able to do if oyu';re game :) 11.25.53 # * JdGordon goes back to trying to figure out why dyn screen size break android if it is disabled 11.27.19 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@nat2-149.fh-giessen.de) 11.28.37 Quit leavittx (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 11.32.52 Join MikeH__ [0] (~Mike@71-208-213-139.hlrn.qwest.net) 11.34.35 Quit mystica555_ (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 11.34.54 Join bluefoxx [0] (fuzzylomba@S0106485b3917092d.vs.shawcable.net) 11.36.35 Join bmbl [0] (~bmbl@dsl109-194.pool.bitel.net) 11.36.35 Quit bmbl (Changing host) 11.36.35 Join bmbl [0] (~bmbl@unaffiliated/bmbl) 11.39.44 # BUGGER.... my tree is crashing in the font cache code now... 11.39.53 # this patch just doesnt want t get commited! 11.46.05 Join mshathlonxp [0] (~msh@5acba0e7.bb.sky.com) 11.47.45 Join piotrekm [0] (~piotrek@unaffiliated/piotrekm) 11.51.20 Part LinusN 11.55.25 # hey guys, can anybody comment on my proposal http://enos.itcollege.ee/~skuusik/proposal 11.56.15 # link no worky 11.56.31 # aww 11.56.55 # it does 11.57.38 Nick kugel_ is now known as kugel (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 11.58.13 # feel free to but me donw to misery xD 11.58.16 # down* 11.58.45 # <[Saint]> link works here. 12.00.06 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 12.02.30 # is our open()/read()/lseek() posix compliant? can buffering even be compiled (forget about linked) outside of rockbox? 12.04.10 # silbo: one quick comment for now: I'm not sure if splitting out the code, reworking it, and then update rockbox to work with the new library is a good way to do this (I'd try to do it more incrementally) 12.04.41 # silbo: also, you know you can submit the proposal to the melange site and still update it later (until the deadline)? 12.05.17 # yes, but all revisions will be there xD 12.05.48 # and if the text is like crap then ..... 12.06.09 # Well, you're showing it to the same people now 12.06.30 # I know xD 12.08.01 # gevaerts: ok so I would build up the new library project class by class, that is what you mean ? 12.09.04 # "class"? 12.09.28 # my initial thought was fix the build script to build the playback code to a seperate .a and do just enough code to make it compile/link.. then once thats done clean up the API 12.13.14 # hmm ok 12.16.02 # JdGordon: they should be 12.17.01 # how about updating estonian translation first? shouldn't take more than one day, presuming jokes that latvians are cracking about estonians aren't true :D 12.18.50 # mshathlonxp: is that supposed to be a constructive comment? 12.19.19 # forget about second half of it if you don't like it 12.21.53 # what xD I am an estonian I could make the translation xD 12.23.04 # kugel: ? 12.23.16 # open/read/lseek 12.23.19 # silbo: feel free to work on it (see http://translate.rockbox.org/, or do it the old fashioned way in the source), but don't feel obliged by mshathlonxp's comment 12.23.20 # ah 12.23.48 # gevaerts, JdGordon: I think I did not quite get what you were suggesting me to write for the task descrition, I updated it a little http://enos.itcollege.ee/~skuusik/proposal 12.23.55 # the reason we don't use them directly from the library is the paths thingy 12.24.03 # (.rockbox path) 12.24.12 Join Hindu [0] (75d3557b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.117.211.85.123) 12.25.52 Quit piotrekm (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 12.27.25 # anyone have any idea what the heck would cause the messed up text in http://imagebin.org/145691 ? 12.27.48 # my first guess is a buffer overrun but no crash? 12.28.43 Join swilde` [0] (~wilde@aktaia.intevation.org) 12.28.44 # hmm, it looks like lines which scroll dont have this problem 12.29.11 # annoyingly i dont see this in sdl, only android 12.30.02 Quit silbo (Read error: Operation timed out) 12.30.52 # and then only if dynamic screen size is enabled... and i cant see anywhere in the diff which might cause this :/ 12.32.22 Join piotrekm [0] (~piotrek@aeof2.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) 12.32.23 Quit piotrekm (Changing host) 12.32.23 Join piotrekm [0] (~piotrek@unaffiliated/piotrekm) 12.33.09 Quit bthomson (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 12.34.36 # * JdGordon is baffled 12.36.03 # <[Saint]> filesmstsaybac? 12.36.15 # <[Saint]> databasesayba? 12.36.16 # <[Saint]> weird. 12.38.07 Quit T44 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 12.40.56 Join bthomson [0] (~bthomson@pool-71-114-64-197.washdc.dsl-w.verizon.net) 12.41.24 Join ajb [0] (~user@cbnluk-gw0.cambridgebroadband.com) 12.41.46 Part ajb 12.42.28 Quit mshathlonxp (Quit: reb00t) 12.46.31 # kugel: DEBUGF() isnt hooked up by default? 12.46.52 # it is in DEBUG builds 12.47.20 Quit swilde (Quit: redundancy is bad) 12.48.03 Quit swilde` (Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)) 12.48.33 Join swilde [0] (~wilde@aktaia.intevation.org) 12.50.56 # * JdGordon wonders why rockbox is crashing on the first run every time after updateing the apk 12.52.56 Quit Hindu (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 12.55.26 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:470:28:773:babe:feed:dead:beef) 12.56.55 Join silbo [0] (~quassel@193.40.244.204) 12.57.36 # <[Saint]> No idea. 12.57.40 # <[Saint]> Black screen hang? 12.57.56 # <[Saint]> like, not actually crashing, or an FC...but a black screen hang? 12.58.08 # no, full on crashing 12.58.29 # <[Saint]> Hmmm, it happens to me as I describe. 12.58.42 # <[Saint]> I need to force close it. 13.00.14 # yeah, I'm almost willing to bet its because of the *great* java<->c lcd code initing in the wrong order 13.00.26 # but i cant get the debugger going so me 13.01.42 # meh* 13.03.07 # ok, well lcdputs is sending the correct string, so the framebuffer is getting updated wrongly 13.03.11 # * JdGordon confused 13.03.13 # someone help! :p 13.07.06 # scorche|sh: or AlexP: please ban cenfdavuj 13.08.42 # didnt he get banned once already? 13.13.45 # I don't think so - he is still online 13.13.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.16.57 # banned 13.19.32 # thank you 13.24.26 # are these accounts created by bots or real spammers? 13.25.11 # I think we have both kinds 13.25.28 # aren't we lucky! :p 13.29.43 Quit swilde (*.net *.split) 13.29.43 Quit JackWinter (*.net *.split) 13.30.30 Join JackWinter [0] (~jack@vodsl-9173.vo.lu) 13.34.04 Join swilde [0] (~wilde@aktaia.intevation.org) 13.38.05 # WTF? seriously, what could cause such not-random garbage being displayed on the lcd when the sstring being sent to putsxy() is sane? 13.38.07 Quit JackWinter (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 13.42.12 Join JackWinter [0] (~jack@vodsl-9173.vo.lu) 13.46.01 # bugs in putsxy 13.46.42 # which noone has seen in 5 years? 13.47.21 # maybe they like you more than other people? :) 13.47.39 # and it apparently works fine with android with the dynamic screen patch enabled, the only difference being LCD_WIDTH/HEIGHT are #defined to a number when disabled 13.47.50 # driving me insane! 13.51.47 # JdGordon: perhaps compiler optimization 13.54.16 # ok, so it looks like it is actually trying to draw garbage 13.54.49 Join rigoletto [0] (~Misanthro@p3E9BE7E4.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.54.49 Nick rigoletto is now known as Misan (~Misanthro@p3E9BE7E4.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.55.17 Nick Misan is now known as rigoletto (~Misanthro@p3E9BE7E4.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.55.32 # bidi_l2v() seems to be broken 13.57.30 # AH! makes sense now./.. thats returning a non-static array 13.57.43 # ! 13.58.32 # the patch broke it 13.58.59 # unsigned short utf16_buf[SCROLL_LINE_SIZE]; <- that isnt really related to scroll line size... how should I fix this? 13.59.17 # or just malloc that in scroll_init() and pretend it is related? 13.59.54 # malloc() on first use? 14.04.34 # \o/ fixed :) 14.06.56 # Hello. I had a small question about the dynamic screen size patch. Wouldn't it be more logical to first try using WPSes with a filename containing the screen size/depth and then fallback to the generic one than the other way around? That way you can provide customised versions for some common sizes and provide a fallback for other targets. 14.08.24 # dionoea: well, doing it that way means theme zips cant be shared between targets as easily 14.08.54 # i.e 320x240 android, sdl, real target can currently share the zip, with your suggestion they couldnt because the filenames in the config would be wrong 14.08.55 # dionoea: that only works if the fallback is entirely text based 14.09.41 # which doesn't make sense for 99% of the themes 14.10.07 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 14.10.24 Quit krazykit (Remote host closed the connection) 14.12.23 Join krazykit [0] (~krazykit@99-126-205-52.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) 14.12.25 # hum ... ok. It still feels weird to test the sizeless version first :) 14.12.50 # * JdGordon intends to add the ability to change the lcd size at runtime next 14.13.00 # DJeXeCute: why don't you just follow the instructions? 14.13.07 # i.e portait <->landscape shenanigans :) 14.13.15 # it's really, really dead simple 14.13.36 # btw, what happens if you load a backdrop that doesn't match the current screen size? will it just crop/padd? or does the core provide a scaling engine? 14.13.38 # [07:01] "No .rockbox Directory" "Installation Incomplete" << this means that you haven't followed the instructions to the end and haven't extracted a rockbox build yet 14.13.58 # <[Saint]> TheSeven: Um..no. 14.14.03 # [06:59] Is there something I could just drop in like the video's .rockbox folder? << that's a surefire way to break it even more 14.14.11 # <[Saint]> He did manage to get it to boot...so it must have dissappeared after. 14.14.23 # just use the one for the ipod classic that's pointed to by the instructions? 14.14.38 # <[Saint]> eeeek, lag? 14.14.43 # [07:05] Crap how can i get it back to DFU to reformat it as a normal Ipod? << as always. connect to USB and hold menu+select for about 12 seconds 14.14.54 # <[Saint]> he did manage to get RB to boot, so...something happened to break it *after* the install. 14.15.24 # <[Saint]> TheSeven: ^ 14.16.57 # [14:14] <[Saint]> He did manage to get it to boot...so it must have dissappeared after. << yes, he booted it from the NOR flash (there's a compressed "recovery" rockbox in there since the transition to emcore) 14.17.17 # he just needs to continue following the instructions step by step and not break out in the middle of them 14.17.40 # [14:14] <[Saint]> eeeek, lag? << nope, just me answering to the backlog 14.17.48 Quit ChickeNES (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 14.18.11 # <[Saint]> Oh, wow...shit. I didn't realise there was an RB image in there already. 14.18.53 # <[Saint]> if that's the case, why doesn't it just stay there...or get written to the correct location if another build isn't loaded? 14.19.36 # <[Saint]> "RB works, then seemingly vanishes" seems a bit weird (if you don't follow the instructions...apparently) 14.19.57 # <[Saint]> though, you can't really accomodate for not following instruction too much. 14.20.12 # there's just the bare minimum on the flash, not a full rockbox build, that wouldn't fit 14.20.19 # <[Saint]> Ah. 14.20.23 # so no codecs, plugins, fonts, themes, ... 14.20.28 # just the builtin fallback stuff 14.20.37 # it behaves as if you delete everything but rockbox.ipod 14.21.08 # <[Saint]> Right...well, I distinctly said "here's a link, answer the questions, do what it says" 14.21.11 # <[Saint]> I assumed he had. 14.21.12 # and if explicitly moans about rockbox.ipod and .rockbox missing during boot 14.21.13 # <[Saint]> sorry. 14.21.34 # http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/EmCORE_Installation/iPodClassic/UMSboot 14.21.51 # <[Saint]> that's the one. 14.21.51 # he apparently broke out after "Wait for Rockbox to boot (Complaints about the rockbox.ipod file being missing are normal at this point.) " 14.22.08 Part mem_ 14.23.59 # <[Saint]> I wonder what made him choose to ignore ~50% of the instruction. 14.24.15 # <[Saint]> Is there a misleading step in the installation one could interpret as being finished? 14.27.00 # well, "Oooh, Rockbox is running, let's try playing around" 14.27.27 # I'm wondering what's so hard to understand here: "Please follow the instructions closely, step by step. If any doubts arise, please ask for support before playing around. You could permanently damage your device!" 14.27.55 # <[Saint]> ...nothing. 14.28.11 # <[Saint]> You can't accomodate for people chosing to ignore instruction. 14.29.32 # <[Saint]> maybe bold the "any" in "if any doubts arise" and the "permanently" in "permanently damage your device" 14.31.08 # that whole thing is bold! 14.31.21 # and "support" is linked to a #freemyipod-support webchat and NOT here 14.32.37 # <[Saint]> well... 14.32.40 # * [Saint] shrugs 14.33.45 # <[Saint]> I didn't suggest he try copy anything else to the disk as I'd assumed he'd actually gotten to the end of the instruction, it failed for whatever reason, and I didn't want to risk breaking things more. 14.40.53 Join mshathlonxp [0] (~msh@5acba0e7.bb.sky.com) 14.49.20 # JdGordon: the lcd dimensions come automatically in the surfaceChanged (currently stubbed in the java code) callback so you don't need to query it 14.49.37 # but it comes in asynchron, possibly after the first lcd operations 14.57.13 Join StefARM [0] (dragosciof@hard5.cs.tuiasi.ro) 14.57.40 Quit factor (Quit: Leaving) 15.00.28 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.00.32 Quit B4gder (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 15.00.40 Join antil33t [0] (antil33t@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 15.07.36 Nick amee2zombie is now known as amee2k (~thomas@70.32.35.197) 15.07.50 Quit r0b- (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 15.13.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.14.44 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 15.23.07 Quit eGen_ (Quit: ... gettin' screew my wife ....) 15.27.21 Part LinusN 15.28.31 Join evilnick_B [0] (0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 15.28.33 Join eGen_ [0] (generat0r@gate.mmdecin.cz) 15.32.46 Quit silbo (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.34.15 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 15.37.36 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 15.39.20 Join eGen [0] (generat0r@gate.mmdecin.cz) 15.39.20 Quit eGen (Client Quit) 15.39.29 Quit eGen_ (Quit: ... gettin' screew my wife ....) 15.39.36 Join eGen_ [0] (generat0r@gate.mmdecin.cz) 15.46.08 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@f048224040.adsl.alicedsl.de) 16.01.19 Join nataku [0] (~Kevin@dhcp128036157030.central.yale.edu) 16.04.28 Nick kugel is now known as kugelp (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 16.05.26 Quit nataku (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16.05.27 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@p57A97B41.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.05.34 # ffs, this volume blast needs to be fixed, it's pretty dangerous for the ears 16.09.09 Quit StefARM (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 16.09.15 Part Zagor 16.11.13 Join L-Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@207.144.201.128) 16.26.30 Quit n1s (Quit: Lämnar) 16.27.55 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@adsl-99-29-196-104.dsl.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net) 16.27.56 Quit jhMikeS (Changing host) 16.27.56 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 16.37.46 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.37.59 Join antil33t [0] (antil33t@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 16.42.31 Quit L-Strife89 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 16.44.12 Quit TheSeven (Remote host closed the connection) 16.50.59 # <[Saint]> der04usql wants banning 16.51.48 Join Hindu [0] (~Hindu@218.248.64.157) 16.56.02 Join ponti [0] (~54970e61@giant.haxx.se) 16.56.10 Quit ponti (Client Quit) 16.58.25 Join n1s [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/n1s) 16.59.14 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 17.00.27 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 17.01.07 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.01.14 Join webguest706 [0] (~54970e61@giant.haxx.se) 17.01.16 Join antil33t [0] (antil33t@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 17.01.35 Quit yawny (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 17.01.47 Join elcan [0] (user36@pr0.us) 17.03.09 Join mASOUD [0] (~relive_mn@95.82.12.174) 17.03.09 Quit webguest706 (Client Quit) 17.04.55 Join JesusFreak316 [0] (~JesusFrea@USF-Wifi-35-152.laptops.usf.edu) 17.11.28 Quit JesusFreak316 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.11.46 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@seas641.wireless-pennnet.upenn.edu) 17.11.47 Join JesusFreak316 [0] (~JesusFrea@USF-Wifi-35-152.laptops.usf.edu) 17.13.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.19.03 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 17.27.04 # <[Saint]> Hmmm...could someone add "touchscreen" as "Player Type" in Flyspray please? 17.28.02 # <[Saint]> otherwise there's no real way to accurately define the player type for a touchscreen specific skin bug. 17.28.27 Part mASOUD 17.30.18 Quit JesusFreak316 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 17.33.43 # Hello 17.35.20 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 17.38.55 Quit DJeXeCute (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 17.42.17 Quit piotrekm (Quit: piotrekm) 17.43.59 Quit sasquatch (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2) 17.44.26 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@p4FF2D2C0.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.44.56 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@145.116.15.244) 17.47.28 Nick MikeH__ is now known as mystica555 (~Mike@71-208-213-139.hlrn.qwest.net) 17.49.15 Join u42p [0] (~v35b@d028247.adsl.hansenet.de) 18.02.16 Quit petur (Quit: *plop*) 18.03.35 Join slooopy [0] (~sloo@95-90-30-123-dynip.superkabel.de) 18.08.22 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 18.10.24 Join JesusFreak316 [0] (~JesusFrea@USF-Wifi-32-243.laptops.usf.edu) 18.18.55 Nick kugelp is now known as kugel (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 18.19.23 # did someone see my mail on the ml? it's not a lot of time left until the deadline 18.20.19 Join komputes [0] (~komputes@ubuntu/member/komputes) 18.24.04 # kugel: the one about two applications? 18.24.09 # yes 18.24.22 Quit swilde (Read error: Operation timed out) 18.25.37 # assuming that the rules allow it and you feel equally strongly about both projects i think two separate applications is better 18.29.35 # I think both are fun, interesting and can help rockbox a lot 18.31.21 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.55=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 18.32.41 Quit JesusFreak316 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 18.32.47 Join panni_ [0] (hannes@ip-178-203-73-7.unitymediagroup.de) 18.36.18 Nick kugel is now known as kugelp (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 18.37.29 Join JesusFreak316 [0] (~JesusFrea@USF-Wifi-32-243.laptops.usf.edu) 18.46.38 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@f049241204.adsl.alicedsl.de) 18.49.48 Quit Topy44 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 18.52.40 Join Stummi|afk [0] (~Stummi@p4FD3CC2F.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.53.09 Quit Stummi|afk (Changing host) 18.53.09 Join Stummi|afk [0] (~Stummi@rockbox/developer/Stummi) 18.53.22 Nick Stummi|afk is now known as Stummi (~Stummi@rockbox/developer/Stummi) 18.54.13 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.06.06 Quit T44 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.09.25 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@vit94-1-82-67-248-70.fbx.proxad.net) 19.09.26 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 19.09.26 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 19.09.30 Quit JesusFreak316 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 19.11.16 Join wtachi [0] (~wtachi@cpe-065-190-001-228.nc.res.rr.com) 19.12.20 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@f049241204.adsl.alicedsl.de) 19.12.32 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 19.13.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.14.35 Join Misan [0] (~Misanthro@p579B48D9.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.14.39 Join fyrestorm [0] (~nnscript@cpe-68-173-236-235.nyc.res.rr.com) 19.15.13 # it just came to my mind. we've talked about a tickless or dynamic tick system. that would be a nice gsoc project 19.17.10 # I don't know 19.17.24 # Would that really be that much work? 19.17.32 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 19.18.05 # hm, maybe it would be 19.18.11 Quit rigoletto (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 19.18.12 # But do we really need it enough? 19.25.10 # kugelp: I don't see the problem in two applications 19.26.15 # gevaerts: it would be a win on all devices 19.28.30 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4DC13.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.28.32 # Depends on how flexible the hardware timers are 19.29.15 # In genral the tick tasks are easy to deal with I suspect. 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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 20.42.41 Quit piotrekm (Quit: piotrekm) 20.44.22 # DJeXeCute: it *will* go into DFU 20.44.32 # you're once again not following the instructions correctly 20.52.51 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lem0n@ppp-163-135.98-62.inwind.it) 20.53.06 # No matter how long I hold Select and Menu it does not 20.53.34 # Is there anyone on that I can discuss GSoC with? 20.53.48 # No Matter how long I hold it it continualy does looping restarts 20.54.01 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 20.54.07 # It just keeps on going to the boot menu 20.54.24 Quit elcan (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 20.55.18 # Boot menu comes up goes black comes up again and stays up 20.55.33 Join elcan [0] (~loaa@pr0.us) 20.55.47 # I'm doing it right now and have now been holding the menu and select for 40seconds and counting 21.01.10 # ChickeNES: It depends in what detail about what project :) 21.01.29 # I would like to do the Arm Emulator 21.01.59 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 21.02.57 # * AlexP thinks who to prod about that :) 21.05.29 Quit DJeXeCute (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 21.06.00 # ChickeNES: i can talk for a little bit 21.06.24 # saratoga: ok 21.07.03 # basically we spend a lot of our time reverse engineering devices, and writing assembly code, so having an emulator would be useful for testing, reverse engineering, etc 21.08.32 # saratoga: how much documentation exists for each device? 21.08.55 # some have a lot of documentation, others have no documentation 21.09.07 # beyond the reverse engineered stuff in the source code 21.09.20 # do you have a rockbox player? 21.09.47 Join DJeXeCute [0] (~4469c786@giant.haxx.se) 21.09.53 # Sorry I Got a bluescreen 21.11.20 # I've never used rockbox, but I have various iPods lying around (4th gen and Video) 21.11.47 # That's outrageous, get it installed :) 21.12.03 # I was thinking of trying it out this weekend. 21.12.37 # The emulator drew my attention as I have written emulators in the past 21.12.56 # Don't put it on any ipod classics unless you really know what your doing I think I permanently bricked a 80gig ipod classic I just bought yestarday 21.13.16 # Unless you can follow all the instructions to the letter 21.13.50 # DJeXeCute: hopefully someone writing an emulator is a bit better with computers 21.14.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.14.21 # I did and I was going to use my xbox 360 vision cam to record a vid of how its not working but my computer wont pick it up microsoft wont provide drivers im begining to think the source of my problems is crappy windows xp 21.14.32 # ChickeNES: so you would be targeting an ipod? 21.15.10 # that could be challenging because theres no documentation for the CPUs used in the 4G and Video, although they have undergone an enormous amount of reverse engineering over the years 21.15.20 # I would be willing to buy another player or two if necessary 21.15.25 # I'm gunna search for my windows 7 box 21.16.00 Quit elcan (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 21.16.13 # ChickeNES: you said you'd worked on another emulator? 21.16.19 Join elcan [0] (user36@pr0.us) 21.16.33 # Got it im gunna install Windows 7 and see if itle work then 21.16.47 # DJeXeCute: We don't need a running commentary 21.17.47 # AlexP: can you unflag me as spam 21.17.55 # yep 21.17.55 Quit DJeXeCute (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 21.18.02 Quit GeekShadow (Read error: No route to host) 21.18.24 # saratoga: I've written a couple of different emulators 21.18.31 # can you talk about them 21.18.35 # sure 21.18.47 # saratoga: Done. I don't know why it keeps getting you 21.19.17 # theres no way we can improve that system to not flag existing users? 21.19.19 # I first wrote a NES emulator in C, with graphics and input support 21.19.40 # I've been in the process of rewriting it in C++ 21.19.43 # saratoga: No idea, scorche's plaything 21.20.04 # I also used the same cpu core to write an Apple II emulator 21.20.33 # ah nice, so working with peripherals shouldn't be too hard for you 21.20.43 # saratoga: nope - it is one of those magical "cloud" things that shouldnt need any configuration because it works perfectly for everyone 21.20.56 # is it at least flagging a lot of spam? 21.21.04 # And I've also written a partial Z80 emulator for Space Invaders 21.21.06 # saratoga: however, between using it and not using it, it *has* caught a lot of spam and has proved its use to me 21.21.06 # 228 messages so far 21.21.28 # and a partial MIPS emulator that is intended as the core for a N64 emulator 21.21.40 # AlexP: well, that is how many it has flagged - i would be willing to be around 20-40 of those at least are valid 21.21.46 # but still - worth it in my opinion 21.21.53 # ok 21.22.06 # scorche: Oh, I assumed that was non-unflagged messages 21.22.17 # I've unflagged probably 25 or so 21.22.28 # ChickeNES: theres already a lot of open source arm emulators, so you'd probably be able to start with an existing one 21.22.54 # theres also a half working emulator on our patch tracker that emulates a sandisk player with the same SOC as your ipods 21.23.11 # so you may want to look into existing work when writing your application 21.24.03 # saratoga: yeah, I'm going to check those out and see if they would be easy to build on 21.24.28 # otherwise, they'll at least be good reference material 21.24.31 # the one on our patch tracker is pretty cool, although i have my doubts about the correctness of its ARM emulation, but its neat to look at 21.25.40 # unrelated note, the AMSv2 SD issues seem vastly reduced if not fixed entirely, so maybe a point release in a week or two would be a good idea 21.26.06 # I can do it whenever, I'm just waiting for the all clear 21.26.24 # Have all the relevant patches been backported? 21.26.24 # is it just a matter of forking the current 3.8 branch and then doing builds? 21.26.30 # no not yet 21.26.35 # Just tag the 3.8 branch then build 21.26.37 # Essentially 21.26.49 # Change a few scripts for version numbers etc. 21.26.54 # Write release notes 21.27.01 # we probably want a couple days just to make sure something else didn't break 21.27.07 # OK 21.27.13 # ChickeNES: Were any of these emulators you wrote released as open source? 21.27.56 # (or released at all?) 21.28.14 # linuxstb: I plan on putting the C++ nes emulator on github soon, the C one is a bit messy as I wrote it when I first taught myself C 21.28.37 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: Destructor called) 21.30.55 Quit bmbl (Quit: Verlassend) 21.32.36 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli) 21.33.01 # AlexP, saratoga, I think I fixed a lot of minor things in the AMSv2 sd driver and we might as well copy the entire driver over to the branch, but maybe we should wait a week or so to see if any problem pops up anyway 21.33.09 Topic "No negatives!" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 21.33.17 # er, woops 21.33.21 # Sorry :) 21.33.53 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 21.34.27 Topic "Rockbox accepted for GSoC 2011 - Ideas at http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SummerOfCode2011 | Rockbox 3.8 is released | Please read before speaking: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IrcGuidelines | Please direct offtopic/social chat to #rockbox-community | This channel is logged at http://www.rockbox.org/irc | An upgrade caused issues with the wiki. We are on the case" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 21.36.21 Quit Lear (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 4.0/20110318052756]) 21.37.13 # linusstb: https://github.com/blanham/BNESplus 21.37.24 # linuxstb: https://github.com/blanham/BNESplus 21.39.24 Quit slooopy (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 21.40.15 Quit feisar- (Read error: Operation timed out) 21.42.14 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 21.47.17 # aaa 21.47.23 # sorry 21.49.03 Join feisar- [0] (jljhook@ihq.in) 21.51.23 # brb 21.51.25 Quit ChickeNES (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 21.51.58 Quit GeekShadow (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.54.01 # pixelma: I remember you having an inputenx issue on cygwin, did you manage to sort it? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,27615.msg179624.html#new 21.56.23 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 21.56.24 Join Hindu [0] (~Hindu@218.248.64.186) 22.01.05 Join sharperguy [0] (~joe@cpc2-broo5-0-0-cust768.14-2.cable.virginmedia.com) 22.02.34 # Hey. Does anyone know if there's a workaround for the Clip+ bug where 16gb cards aren't always detected? I looked around on the wiki etc. but haven't seen anything obvious. 22.03.12 # sharperguy: What build are you on? 22.03.28 # Hang on I'll just check. 22.03.48 # 3.7.1 22.03.55 # get the current build 22.03.56 # Could you try a current build? 22.03.57 # I should've checked what the newest was actually. 22.04.11 # Not 3.8, but the one labelled current build 22.04.12 # Can I just update using the rockbox installer? 22.04.15 # Yes 22.04.21 # But current build, not release :) 22.05.39 Join ChickeNES [0] (~ChickeNES@128.135.100.102) 22.07.04 # AlexP: no, I haven't. The problem is that the tex package that's usually provided (and still recommended) in our wiki is too old to include inputenx. I'm not sure how to go on from there (I had a quick look at the texlive installation but wasn't sure), bluebrother also wanted to look into it 22.07.37 # OK 22.08.36 # Ok copying. 22.09.07 # saratoga: do you have a link to the emu in the patch tracker? I tried searching emulator and sandisk in the tracker but couldn't find it 22.10.11 # AlexP: the tetex packages are too old and not developed anymore 22.10.25 # ChickeNES: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/6524 22.11.56 Quit Stummi (Quit: Bye!) 22.11.59 # saratoga: ok, I'll take a look at that tonight 22.12.10 # What else do I need to do? 22.13.24 Join L-Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@168.16.232.201) 22.14.40 # Wow nice the new build seems to work no problem. 22.14.56 # Great :) We should have a 3.8.1 with it soon. 22.16.44 Quit DerPapst (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.17.21 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@p57A97B41.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.17.36 # Cool. Thanks. 22.18.54 # pixelma: I am currently checking this inputenx installation -> http://www.tex.ac.uk/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/oberdiek/inputenx.pdf 22.20.06 Join Jerom [0] (~jerome@79.132.61.222) 22.20.59 Join bieber [0] (~quassel@node191.seg28.ucf.edu) 22.21.06 Quit sharperguy (Quit: Leaving) 22.24.23 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng380.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 22.25.23 Quit avacore (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 22.25.26 Quit u42p (Quit: Leaving) 22.25.26 Join avacore^ [0] (~avacore@1008ds1-rdo.0.fullrate.dk) 22.31.07 Join aclonedsheep_ [0] (~acl@c-68-33-70-133.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 22.32.02 Quit aclonedsheep (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 22.32.23 Quit mystica555 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 22.32.49 Join mystica555 [0] (~Mike@71-208-213-139.hlrn.qwest.net) 22.36.31 # pixelma: works :) 22.42.09 Quit funman (Quit: leaving) 22.47.12 Quit Hindu (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 22.48.43 Join milk_ [0] (~milk@94-193-93-226.zone7.bethere.co.uk) 22.54.17 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 22.56.08 Join Hindu_ [0] (~Hindu@218.248.64.152) 22.57.48 Quit L-Strife89 (Quit: Leaving) 22.59.35 Nick Hindu_ is now known as Hindu (~Hindu@218.248.64.152) 23.01.57 Quit {phoenix} (Remote host closed the connection) 23.03.01 Quit darryllambe (Quit: Leaving) 23.04.16 Quit mshathlonxp (Quit: Leaving) 23.06.42 Quit fyrestorm (Quit: lamers envy me like they envy bill g -- main boot xp, just the way it should be!) 23.10.53 Quit Buschel (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 23.13.09 Quit evilnick_B (Quit: Page closed) 23.14.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.14.09 Join elinenbe_ [0] (~elinenbe@209.196.192.8) 23.19.46 Quit esperegu (Remote host closed the connection) 23.23.06 Quit GeekShadow (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 23.23.10 Quit Hindu (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 23.23.21 Quit elcan (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.24.51 Quit efyx (Quit: Quitte) 23.25.20 Quit kevku (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) 23.29.26 Quit saratoga (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 23.36.05 Join elcan [0] (user36@pr0.us) 23.38.08 Join s1ashdot [0] (~tyler_j_n@host-135-15-3-96.midco.net) 23.38.47 Quit Jerom (Quit: Leaving.) 23.38.59 # Hello, I am having an issue where my Sansa Fuze v1 is randomly unmounting. This never occurred until I installed RB 3.8. I saw that a Mac user also reported it happening. 23.39.00 # I am using Ubuntu 10.0.4.2. 23.39.39 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,27475.0.html 23.39.39 # Any suggestions on what I could try? I suppose I could work around it about booting the original firmware. 23.41.21 # Have you tried a current build yet? 23.41.40 # Isn't 3.8 the current build? 23.41.54 # No. 3.8 is the latest release. 23.42.15 # New current builds appear whenever we work on the code, several times per day 23.42.37 # Rockbox Utility should be able to install a current build for you 23.42.42 # I simply erase the .rockbox folder and place the current build .rockbox folder in? 23.43.01 # Yes, or just overwrite it, or use Rockbox Utility 23.43.12 # Alright, I'll try that. 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