--- Log for 20.04.111 Server: asimov.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 15 hours and 15 minutes ago 00.02.11 Quit bertrik (Quit: :tiuQ) 00.03.13 Quit mudd1 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 00.03.30 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 00.03.52 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 00.04.29 Part domonoky 00.05.30 Join evilnick_B [0] (0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 00.07.05 # pixelma: http://translate.rockbox.org/missingchars.ini 00.07.23 # I see Ukrainian is missing a single letter from a bunch of fonts! 00.07.32 Quit kevku (Read error: Operation timed out) 00.07.32 Join krazykit [0] (~krazykit@99-126-205-52.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) 00.08.26 # It doesn't list fonts missing more than 50 characters 00.09.16 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.55=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 00.11.49 Part byteframe ("Leaving.") 00.14.10 Quit n1s (Quit: Lämnar) 00.19.51 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 00.20.28 Join JesusFreak316_ [0] (~JesusFrea@USF-Wifi-33-59.laptops.usf.edu) 00.20.49 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 00.24.29 Quit JesusFreak316_ (Remote host closed the connection) 00.25.49 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@dhcp0101.kin.resnet.group.upenn.edu) 00.28.05 Join scromple [0] (~x@115-64-195-104.tpgi.com.au) 00.29.07 Join mishra [0] (~mishra@inferno.usilu.net) 00.30.03 # saratoga: Hi, do you have a few minutes ? 00.30.16 # sure 00.30.42 # Hey, got a suggestion for rockboxdev.sh. Have a CONFIGOPTS or some other variable to set the configure options (I.E -q) heh 00.31.05 # Or is there another way to do that? 00.31.22 Quit T44 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.31.28 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@g228130234.adsl.alicedsl.de) 00.32.00 # so i was trying some optimisations, is the only way to test the effect of these is to compile and install on device and run test_codec ? 00.32.48 # mishra: yeah 00.33.06 # well you can also check correctness on the sim if you haven't changed any ASM 00.34.50 # thats what i was asking actually, no assembly for now, but which CPU does the sim simulate, bcoz i am trying some loop optimizations ti increase ILP and it will not necessarily help on each CPU 00.35.29 # the sim doesn't emulate a cpu, it just runs on whatever CPU your machine has 00.35.47 # ok 00.35.52 # theres really not much point in doing loop optimizations in c, just do them in ASM 00.36.46 # maybe, but i wanted to try a few just for fun. 00.37.09 # also can you tell me where can i get the test file 64kaache ? 00.37.57 # we renamed it a couple of days ago, it now this: http://download.rockbox.org/test_files/nero_he_64.m4a 00.39.10 # oh i see 00.39.40 # ok, thanks a lot. 00.39.42 # the old name was kind of confusing 00.41.19 Quit evilnick_B (Quit: Page closed) 00.41.19 Join JesusFreak316 [0] (~JesusFrea@USF-Wifi-33-59.laptops.usf.edu) 00.41.57 # anyway, gcc does so badly on most of those tight loops that make up the HE code, its probably possible to get a very large speed up just rewriting them in ARMv4 00.42.04 # and probably better then 2x on ARMv5 00.42.52 # of course the risk there is that you convert something to asm and then realize libfaad was doing something stupid and ffmpeg or android have a better way of computing it 00.46.03 # Hey, I just ran rockboxdev.sh for arm, and am trying to configure and build r29750. But it says it cna't find arm-elf-ebi-gcc, which rockboxdev didn't build. It built arm-elf-gcc. Did I break it? 00.46.08 # yes, i will probably discuss some routines to convert in ASM with you sometime, but not now 00.46.22 # ur, spelling fail, but yeah 00.47.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.47.15 # you probably picked the wrong compiler 00.47.27 # mishra: for example: http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi?view=rev&revision=28549 00.47.40 # the iQMF is used extensively in AAC-HE 00.47.53 # also my ipod nano 2g says 380%realtime for mp3 !!! 00.48.03 # have not checked for AAC yet 00.48.03 # as you can see rewriting it can bring enormous speed ups 00.48.35 # saratoga: Yep I did. Oops! Just ran rockboxdev again and noticed the arm-eabi option. Thanks heh 00.49.33 Quit JesusFreak316 (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 00.50.33 # mishra: very nearly the same for AAC-LC, probably about a third that speed for AAC-HE 00.51.11 # I should probably update the wiki, that Nano2g scores are quite old 00.52.37 # BTW, 380% means it takes 3.8 times more time than realtime, correct ? 00.53.39 # no, it means it takes 1/3.8 times realtime to decode 00.53.51 # the MHz column is more useful to compare 00.56.11 # so we want to increase the % and decrease MHz, but what exactly do we mean by realtime ? 00.58.39 # real time means one second of audio decoded per second 01.05.16 # 129.36% and 148.18 MHz for nero_he_64.m4a 01.07.30 Quit ChickeNES (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 01.09.52 # 122.64% and 156.30 MHz for nero_hev2_64.m4a 01.12.14 Quit Keripo (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 01.12.36 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@dhcp0101.kin.resnet.group.upenn.edu) 01.18.00 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 01.20.59 Quit bluebroth3r (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 01.30.07 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 01.38.35 Quit avacore (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.38.57 Join Topy [0] (~Topy44@f048197039.adsl.alicedsl.de) 01.40.04 Join avacore [0] (~avacore@1008ds1-rdo.0.fullrate.dk) 01.42.10 Quit T44 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 01.45.53 Quit Bagder (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 01.49.02 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 02.00.09 Quit skapazzo (Quit: Lost terminal) 02.05.10 Quit timccc (Quit: Leaving.) 02.05.24 Join timccc [0] (~timccc@112.166.15.141) 02.12.44 # Hey, is there a way to remove the aliasing on files rb play son th eIPod? 02.12.59 # Like, if you play an spc or mod file 02.21.01 # or not? 02.24.50 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 02.25.38 Join bol_ [0] (~bol@kraftur.svenskalinuxforeningen.se) 02.28.40 # Is there a way to remove the audio aliasing when rockbox plays stuff at low rates? The gigabeat didn't do it, but the IPod Video does. You can especially notice it on mods and spcs when it plays low notes, they sound all winy and stuff 02.31.51 Part bol_ 02.37.13 Join ChickeNES [0] (~ChickeNES@128.135.100.102) 02.40.18 Quit mishra (Quit: Leaving) 02.45.38 # I'm running r29750 if it helps any 02.47.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.58.11 # apps/codecs/libspc/spc_codec.h 02.58.31 # you can try changing the interpolation settings in there, but probably if its off your processor isn't fast enough 03.11.40 # saratoga: Ah thanks. 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pikytcus: regarding aliasing on iPod Video -> see FS#10590 07.51.02 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 07.53.27 Join webguest81 [0] (~63203872@giant.haxx.se) 07.53.58 Join webguest24 [0] (~63203872@giant.haxx.se) 07.56.56 Join webguest55 [0] (~63203872@giant.haxx.se) 07.57.05 Quit webguest24 (Client Quit) 07.57.06 Quit webguest55 (Client Quit) 07.57.12 Join webguest39 [0] (~63203872@giant.haxx.se) 07.58.11 Quit webguest39 (Client Quit) 07.58.27 Quit webguest81 (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 08.05.35 Quit Keripo (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.07.56 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@dhcp0101.kin.resnet.group.upenn.edu) 08.17.14 # * Buschel thinks we should do something on FS#10590 -- the current configuration is... strange... 08.17.27 Quit Keripo (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.18.31 # (talking of midi) 08.19.20 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@dhcp0101.kin.resnet.group.upenn.edu) 08.20.52 Join silbo [0] (~quassel@193.40.244.204) 08.24.02 Quit simonlnu (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.25.12 Quit Buschel (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 3.6.16/20110319135224]) 08.31.21 Quit Keripo (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.32.16 Quit scromple (Quit: Gots to go get me outta here) 08.32.23 Join simonlnu [0] (simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 08.34.22 Quit ChickeNES (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 08.35.09 # pixelma: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/ManualHowto#Windows_47_Cygwin_with_TeXLive 08.35.48 # works fine for me :) 08.37.30 Join Bagder [0] (~danielx@www.haxx.se) 08.37.31 Quit Bagder (Changing host) 08.37.31 Join Bagder [0] (~danielx@rockbox/developer/bagder) 08.45.45 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 08.47.20 Join ender` [0] (krneki@84.255.206.8) 08.47.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.50.09 Join mem_ [0] (~mem@mem-irc.netnod.se) 08.53.46 # bluebrother: I'll try in the evening if I don't forget. Thanks :) 09.09.59 Quit liuft (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 09.19.10 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 09.23.34 Join smk [0] (~smk@220.225.67.36) 09.26.49 # hi. was working on libfaad malloc removal task. i put debug info in faad_malloc (which is where the malloc is being done) to print the number of bytes allocated for every call. i ran the simulator and played some aac (m4a) files. for every song played, there were three calls to faad_malloc, with allocation of 1616,192 and 8192 bytes. This pattern applied for every song. 09.27.23 # i tracked the functions making these calls and replaced the calls with static buffer allocations. 09.27.41 # but now wen i run the sim, i get the SDL_WaitEvent() error 09.28.00 # m not able to link the changes i made to the error obtained :P 09.28.14 # any idea of what SDL_WaitEvent() error is? 09.30.08 # the error occurs on playing the aac file 09.30.51 # sounds like a possible buffer overflow or something 09.31.03 # tried running the sim with valgrind? 09.31.30 # buffer overflows print the stack retrace 09.31.47 # no , didn't. 09.34.54 # Bagder: can you elaborate on running with valgrind?. 09.35.19 # valgrind is your best friend to track down memory-related problems in linux 09.35.52 # install it and run "valgrind ./uisim" and see if it points out any problems 09.36.02 # oh. i will try that then. 09.36.37 # if it does, you can make it fire up the debugger on the offending line 09.38.34 # ok. when i made the changes first, i got buffer overflow error, which printed the stack retrace and exited. having removed those errors, i got this sdl error. m confused however about how the changes i made caused a UI error :) 09.38.46 # will run the test though :) 09.39.01 # memory corruption can cause all kinds of fun errors 09.42.15 # will see how it goes and be back later.thanks. 09.42.17 Part smk ("Leaving") 09.47.16 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 09.59.19 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@213.165.85.248) 09.59.19 Quit sideral (Changing host) 09.59.19 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 10.00.57 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:470:28:773:babe:feed:dead:bee) 10.02.14 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 10.03.32 Quit simonlnu (Remote host closed the connection) 10.04.17 Quit mudd1 (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 10.08.24 Quit balintx (Remote host closed the connection) 10.08.43 Join balintx [0] (~quassel@szerver1.gulyasp-koll.sulinet.hu) 10.12.49 Quit balintx (Remote host closed the connection) 10.13.08 Quit JoshuaChang (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 10.13.35 Join balintx [0] (~quassel@szerver1.gulyasp-koll.sulinet.hu) 10.14.39 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@p57954B42.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.33.03 Quit liar (Quit: hallowed are the ori!) 10.38.55 Quit sasquatch (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 10.40.45 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@46.115.22.30) 10.47.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.48.17 Join mudd1 [0] (~cmertes@ip-78-94-202-227.unitymediagroup.de) 10.54.21 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 10.59.00 Join pepsi_ [0] (~pepsi@unaffiliated/jbutera) 11.00.21 Part mem_ 11.01.33 Quit pepsi (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 11.01.56 Part LinusN 11.01.57 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 11.03.53 Join ricemark20 [0] (~mark@99-20-182-188.lightspeed.elgnil.sbcglobal.net) 11.06.56 Quit Elfish (Read error: Operation timed out) 11.08.23 Quit ricemark20 (Remote host closed the connection) 11.11.31 Join ricemark20 [0] (~mark@99-20-182-188.lightspeed.elgnil.sbcglobal.net) 11.14.58 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 11.18.36 # I have a sansa fuze2 running the latest rockbox. Ogg files are skipping and going back to the same spot in the track 11.25.49 Quit mystica555_ (Remote host closed the connection) 11.28.05 Join Elfish [0] (amba@2a01:4f8:100:90a1:abc:abc:abc:abc) 11.28.40 Join skapazzo [0] (~skapazzo@195.81.67.123) 11.42.38 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@vit94-1-82-67-248-70.fbx.proxad.net) 11.42.39 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 11.42.39 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.43.12 Quit ricemark20 (Quit: Leaving) 11.43.14 Quit sasquatch (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 11.44.28 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@46.115.22.30) 11.44.42 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@nat2-149.fh-giessen.de) 11.51.51 Part LinusN 11.55.08 Quit Bagder (Remote host closed the connection) 11.55.19 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 11.55.35 Quit sasquatch (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 11.58.06 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@46.115.22.30) 12.08.25 Quit sasquatch (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 12.10.02 Quit rdd (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.12.40 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@46.115.22.30) 12.15.33 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust703.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 12.30.08 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@rockbox/developer/LinusN) 12.33.39 # * pamaury take the plunge into the fuze+ lcd code and will only emerge when he's done 12.42.21 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 12.44.11 Join mystica555_ [0] (~Mike@71-33-152-71.hlrn.qwest.net) 12.47.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.50.11 Join leavittx [0] (~leavittx@89.221.199.187) 12.52.34 Join v_2e [0] (ejabberd@pepelaz.jabber.od.ua) 12.53.12 Join mem_ [0] (~mem@mem-irc.netnod.se) 12.53.48 Quit sasquatch (Read error: Operation timed out) 12.58.47 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@46.115.22.30) 13.00.47 # Hello! I am a newly registered Roxbox Wiki user, and to complete the registration, I need to be added to the WikiUsersGroup by the existing user. Could somebody please add me? My Wiki nickname is VladimirSmolyar. Thanks. 13.02.37 # v_2e: I've added you 13.03.30 # gevaerts: Thank you! :) 13.11.17 # amiconn: ping? 13.14.32 # or indeed anyone who knows the ipod video lcd driver? 13.17.21 # is this correct? 13.17.22 # - addr = &lcd_framebuffer[y][x]; 13.17.23 # + addr = (lcd_framebuffer + y * LCD_WIDTH + x); 13.19.51 # Is the quickscreen voiced? 13.20.22 # I want to say no but i remember a patch by sdoyon to make it talk 13.21.04 # yes, it is 13.22.06 # thanks 13.27.29 Part v_2e 13.37.56 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 13.45.11 # fucking imx233, it's impossible to have clock related things work x-( 13.46.59 Quit bluefoxx (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 13.50.40 Join rdd [0] (~rdd@c83-250-52-16.bredband.comhem.se) 13.51.36 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 14.01.57 Join bluefoxx [0] (fuzzylomba@S0106485b3917092d.vs.shawcable.net) 14.03.06 Quit sinthetek (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 14.04.11 Join sinthetek [0] (~sinthetek@cpe-174-111-021-024.triad.res.rr.com) 14.04.18 Quit sinthetek (Changing host) 14.04.19 Join sinthetek [0] (~sinthetek@unaffiliated/sinthetek) 14.15.28 Quit sinthetek (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 14.16.55 Join sinthetek [0] (~sinthetek@unaffiliated/sinthetek) 14.18.59 Quit sasquatch (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 14.19.37 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lem0n@ppp-155-157.98-62.inwind.it) 14.21.17 Quit rdd (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.23.33 # TheLemonMan: ping 14.23.43 # pamaury: hai 14.24.00 # hi, did you see my message ? About your first.elf file ? 14.24.08 # mmh, nope 14.24.16 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@46.115.22.30) 14.24.24 # you probably produced this file with sbinfo rght ? 14.24.57 # yup 14.25.21 # you produced it with an older version which for some reason put the code in program headers but does not create any elf section 14.25.41 # As a result, the code in first.elf is never executed, it's ignored by elftosb2 and my elftosb 14.26.26 # You need to regenerate that file with sbtoelf 14.26.58 # You can see this in the debug output of elftosb2 if you're not convinced :) 14.29.07 # mmh, i see 14.30.06 Quit sasquatch (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 14.30.21 # I fixed elftosb to handle files without sections but I thought it would be better to warn you :) 14.31.13 Join rdd [0] (~rdd@c83-250-52-16.bredband.comhem.se) 14.33.58 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@46.115.22.30) 14.34.48 # New commit by 03nls (r29751): FS#12072 Improved and updated translation of Romaneste by Sergiu Rotaru. 14.38.20 # r29751 build result: All green 14.39.26 # woha, over 400 open patches 14.41.10 Join liuft [0] (~liuft@60.29.25.2) 14.41.11 Quit liuft (Client Quit) 14.44.31 Quit liar (Quit: hallowed are the ori!) 14.47.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.59.54 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.55=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 15.04.34 Quit sideral (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15.06.56 Quit sasquatch (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 15.10.33 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 15.14.20 Quit sideral (Remote host closed the connection) 15.14.58 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@213.165.85.248) 15.14.58 Quit sideral (Changing host) 15.14.58 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 15.15.11 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@46.115.22.30) 15.20.30 Join evilnick_B [0] (0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 15.23.38 # * pamaury finally had timers working ! 15.24.35 Quit sideral (Remote host closed the connection) 15.24.53 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 15.26.38 # * pamaury ...or not :( 15.27.43 # * pamaury finally yes, stupid error 15.30.03 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 15.32.56 # I don't understand why the fuze+ resets on power down when I used the timer, and correctly shutdown when I didn't use it ! 15.42.50 Quit GodEater (Read error: Operation timed out) 15.45.00 Quit sasquatch (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15.46.56 Quit sideral (Quit: Leaving.) 15.49.45 Nick soap_ is now known as soap (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 15.50.56 # JdGordon: This change looks equivalent to me, but why change it that way? The former is more readable imo. 15.51.52 # the dynamic screen size patch which im still trying to get finished changed lcd_framebuffer to be a pointer... im getting a white screen and a data abort on my ipod video and thats the only change in the videos lcd driver 15.53.42 # lcd_framebuffer can't be a pointer, it must be an array. It contains the actual framebuffer data 15.53.59 # yes, on init it is set to the real array 15.54.29 # Why does that patch touch the hardware targets at all? 15.54.34 # http://pastebin.com/0xYAnRsX is the full patch, can you please have a look and see why it breaks for the vid? (and presumably other targets)... its working for sdl and android and i was hoping it owuld just work 15.54.53 # i guess we dont want to do s/lcd_framebuffer/_lcd_framebuffer/g everywhere? 15.55.16 # it cant be an array for the targets which use the dynamic screen size 15.55.30 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@213.165.85.248) 15.55.30 Quit sideral (Changing host) 15.55.30 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 15.56.07 # FS#11615 15.57.07 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@46.115.22.30) 15.59.16 Quit sideral (Client Quit) 15.59.46 # There are weird constructs in debug_menu.c - not the reason for the crash though 15.59.55 Quit sasquatch (Client Quit) 16.03.29 Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.04.33 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@213.165.85.248) 16.04.33 Quit sideral (Changing host) 16.04.33 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 16.05.09 # JdGordon: if you want to test just that change it should be easy to do with an otherwise unpatched build 16.05.35 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@46.115.25.60) 16.06.02 Part LinusN 16.06.12 # I assume its not actually that change that breaks for that lcd though... 16.06.33 # static const struct plugin_api rockbox_api = { .... NULL, /* will get filled in later */ 16.07.08 # A const struct is const... 16.07.46 # you're commenting on the removed line? 16.08.07 Quit silbo (Remote host closed the connection) 16.08.08 # nope 16.08.29 # I'm commenting on "will be filled in later" - into a const struct 16.08.46 # it isnt const anymore 16.09.01 # eek 16.09.19 # Then it will work - but waste ram on targets running rombox 16.09.41 # well thats a matter of some #ifdeffing... 16.09.41 Quit eGen_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.14.37 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@p57916693.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.16.19 # The patch changes many things for non-resizable screens as well. For the settings you could replace LCD_WIDTH/ LCD_HEIGHT with MAX_LCD_WIDTH/ MAX_LCD_HEIGHT instead of hardcoding arbitrary values 16.16.50 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@SEAS023.wlan.seas.upenn.edu) 16.17.11 Quit Bagder (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 16.17.41 Join eGen_ [0] (generat0r@gate.mmdecin.cz) 16.18.12 Quit Topy (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16.19.08 Quit DerPapst (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 16.21.02 Quit Keripo (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 16.22.15 # amiconn: sure, the patch isnt completly finished... im hoping you spot the reason the ipod driver breaks? 16.24.17 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@SEAS023.wlan.seas.upenn.edu) 16.24.27 Quit bluefoxx (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 16.24.37 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@p57916693.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.27.19 # Can't spot something suspicious.... just more unfinished/ sub-optimal stuff 16.28.16 # bother :/ yell if you do see some5hing 16.28.19 # bed time for me 16.28.31 Quit Keripo (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 16.29.07 Quit evilnick_B (Quit: Page closed) 16.29.33 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@SEAS023.wlan.seas.upenn.edu) 16.32.13 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@f048197039.adsl.alicedsl.de) 16.33.45 Join bluefoxx [0] (fuzzylomba@S0106485b3917092d.vs.shawcable.net) 16.39.30 Join tails__ [0] (~tails@host-94-251-111-208.bbcustomer.zsttk.net) 16.43.44 Quit user890104 () 16.45.22 Join sideral1 [0] (~sideral@213.165.85.248) 16.45.22 Quit sideral (Disconnected by services) 16.45.22 Quit sideral1 (Changing host) 16.45.22 Join sideral1 [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 16.45.40 Part mem_ 16.46.28 Quit sideral1 (Remote host closed the connection) 16.46.58 Join toffe82 [0] (~chatzilla@maf.wirelesstcp.net) 16.47.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.47.33 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@213.165.85.248) 16.47.33 Quit sideral (Changing host) 16.47.33 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 16.51.19 # where can i find latest android build? 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Last I remember, people said that the last patch was at least the right approach but this is now 3 years ago or so and nothing happened 20.59.53 Quit sideral (Quit: Leaving.) 21.00.15 # for people with an X5 this might be interesting as USB host is only supported in the OF, I don't care much for my M5 but I just remembered it and am a bit curious 21.18.36 Quit evilnick_B (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 21.26.38 # pixelma: I've reworked the installation instructions for LaTeX a bit and moved them to a separate page: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/LatexInstallation 21.27.20 # I think we can make TeXLive the recommended distribution for Cygwin now :) 21.27.53 Join milk_ [0] (~milk@94-193-93-226.zone7.bethere.co.uk) 21.29.08 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 21.29.38 Nick milk_ is now known as milk (~milk@94-193-93-226.zone7.bethere.co.uk) 21.30.26 Quit balintx (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 21.30.44 Join balintx [0] (~quassel@szerver1.gulyasp-koll.sulinet.hu) 21.42.07 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust703.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 21.43.09 Quit pamaury (Read error: No route to host) 21.43.15 Join silbo [0] (~quassel@193.40.244.204) 21.45.45 Join fml [0] (~chatzilla@manz-590f0595.pool.mediaWays.net) 21.46.30 Quit bluefoxx_ (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 21.46.44 # Hello. Would you understand that a negative stereo width means "swap channels"? I'll probably try to implement the "swap channels" feature as a negative stereo width. 21.48.20 # if it's in the manual ... ;-) 21.50.27 Quit ChickeNES (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 21.50.40 # fml: wouldn't it make more sense as a separate option? 21.51.29 # "swap channels" sounds like a useless "feature" to me 21.52.08 # yes, me too but i don't think i'd understand what nexative stereo width meant 21.52.13 # How about an extra "stereo width multiplier" setting, with values 1 and -1? :) 21.52.41 # Some people claim (I have no idea if it's true) that ipods come with reversed channels 21.53.27 # gevaerts, urban myth I think 21.53.36 # i've heard this claim too but never from anyone i'd think of as credible 21.53.49 # There are some other reasons on the forums too 21.54.29 # yeah but there are reasons to implement every obscure feature anyone requests, that doesn't mean we shoukd do it imo 21.54.42 # i think rockbox suffers from feature creep 21.54.42 # True 21.54.54 # And I guess that's where negative stereo width comes in 21.55.20 # If I'm not misunderstanding things, it allows to do this by just extending the range a bit 21.56.02 # if a stereo width of -100% would accomplish that, I wouldn't be against it (but not particularly care either) 21.56.42 # gevaerts: yes. "Swap channels" and "stereo width" are orthogonal IMO. With negative width we'd have just one option for both. 21.57.14 # I think it's a good plan 21.57.16 Quit earcar (Quit: bye) 21.57.32 # No extra setting, a paragraph in the manual, and more happy people 21.58.13 # does anyone really want this? 21.58.32 # People have asked for it 21.58.53 # i still think it's a very strange way to present the option but i don't really care either 21.59.22 # you pretty much have to read the manual to understand most settings anyway 21.59.51 # Well, I'd favour a separate setting if it were a rather common thing 21.59.51 # and setting it may be a bit weird as you have to go through other stereo width values 22.00.05 # If we've got a real name policy, why do we let devs not put their real name in the "real name" field in flyspray? 22.01.22 # I'd rather not have this option in the root of the sound settings menu 22.01.39 # Llorean: because some devs did that before they became devs? 22.01.52 # but in general I'd like real names on the tracker too 22.02.49 # New commit by 03thomasjfox (r29752): Update pandora packaging file ... 22.02.53 # by the way, I still think it's a bit confusing that stereo width doesn't work in stereo mode 22.02.58 # I'd prefer real names on the tracker, but I also think that having real names in COMMITTERS and CREDITS (and commit messages for patches by non-committers) is sufficient 22.03.13 # bluebrother: Like the wiki, shouldn't we object to anyone putting false information in the "Real Name" field? Either don't require it, or require it to be accurate, but requiring it and not caring about accuracy kinda is pointless. 22.04.07 # good point 22.04.09 Join ChickeNES [0] (~ChickeNES@128.135.100.102) 22.04.38 # Llorean, I agree. 22.05.15 Join bluefoxx [0] (fuzzylomba@S0106485b3917092d.vs.shawcable.net) 22.06.16 # Llorean: I agree. The only drawback might be those users that want to report a bug and are not willing to reveal their real name. 22.06.22 # though those could post on the forums. 22.06.26 # r29752 build result: All green 22.06.45 # bluebrother: well, that one would be covered by "don't require it" 22.06.51 # Or we could not require people to enter a real name. 22.06.56 # I hope we can have "optional" fields 22.08.07 # I think it would be at least good if committers put their real name on Flyspray. It's in COMMITTERS anyway, so there's no point in not using it in the tracker 22.08.35 # This is true. 22.09.05 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 22.12.59 Join bieber_ [0] (~quassel@node82.seg33.ucf.edu) 22.14.39 # does anyone object to moving the target-specific parts of the serial driver in firmware/driver/serial.c to the target trees? 22.19.37 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 22.23.16 # Real Names in the tracker would help against patches that are posted by some nick and then we have to ask for a real name and sometimes noone answers 22.24.53 # n1s, indeed, that's extremely annoying 22.35.17 # Hrm... Implementing negative stereo width would require changes in two assembler functions (ARM and CF asm) which I wouldn't want to do. 22.36.06 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@seas464.wireless-pennnet.upenn.edu) 22.38.06 Quit thomasjfox (Remote host closed the connection) 22.39.00 # What is negative stereo width? 22.39.57 # AlexP: usual stereo width + swap channels 22.40.03 # AlexP: a neat trick to implement inverting channels without adding a setting, while at the same time confusing people who haven't read the manual 22.40.14 # fml: Is that standard terminology? 22.40.33 # It would have confused me 22.41.03 # AlexP: then I won't implement it :-) 22.41.30 # I'm not sure what I think to be honest :) 22.43.13 # n1s: yes. 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I had a quick question though. is there a way to speed up a 4K sector hard drive in an ipod video.? im only getting about 4MB/sec thoroughput on it, and the original disk gets more. 22.59.08 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@87-206-240-131.dynamic.chello.pl) 23.01.23 Quit B4gder (Changing host) 23.01.23 Join B4gder [0] (~daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 23.01.44 Quit TheProcrastinato (Quit: CGI:IRC) 23.01.45 # rockchip doc is so cryptic about lcd module that I can't understand how to make lcd update in buffered mode :/ 23.09.59 Quit skapazzo (Quit: Lost terminal) 23.14.22 Join lennyk [0] (~lenny@cpe-76-169-44-22.socal.res.rr.com) 23.16.34 Quit useer (Quit: quitte) 23.18.30 Quit iHateSepticTanks (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.18.41 Quit mshathlonxp (Quit: Leaving) 23.23.35 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54A3AFD0.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.26.12 Join IHST1 [0] (~iHateSept@173-16-100-238.client.mchsi.com) 23.33.57 Quit leavittx (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 23.38.21 Quit IHST1 (Quit: Leaving) 23.43.04 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 23.43.26 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: "Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." - Aldous Huxley) 23.44.08 # * bluebrother sees the G3 protocol messages coming from his dock 23.44.23 # but why doesn't it work with Rockbox then? I thought that is supported 23.45.21 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@seas464.wireless-pennnet.upenn.edu) 23.45.32 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lem0n@ppp-155-157.98-62.inwind.it) 23.47.36 Quit Buschel (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 23.51.36 # its reverse engineered, its possible theres some missing commands 23.54.40 Quit n1s (Quit: Lämnar) 23.56.59 Quit ender` (Quit: Stupidity cannot be cured. Stupidity is the only universal capital crime; the sentence is death. There is no appeal, and execution is carried out automatically and without pity. -- Robert A. Heinlein) 23.58.16 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.)