--- Log for 26.04.111 Server: calvino.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 4 days and 4 hours ago 00.00.02 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 00.00.20 # AlexP, if I have a friend who can help me is there any code that i can show him to make it easier like the rockbox code and if so where is it 00.00.48 # tbruff13: All the Rockbox code is in our SVN repository, at svn.rockbox.org 00.01.37 # tbruff13: Which model do you have? 00.01.53 # It can be browsed from http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/ 00.02.00 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: Destructor called) 00.03.01 # linuxstb: Coby something 00.03.37 # AlexP: Yes, I read that much - there are about 50 models on their website... 00.03.46 # heh, OK :) 00.04.06 # linuxstb, one sec 00.05.38 # linuxstb, CobyMp610 00.06.49 Join RoC_MasterMind [0] (~Free@c-76-122-36-52.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 00.07.25 Join ChickeNES [0] (~ChickeNES@128.135.100.102) 00.07.28 Quit ender` (Quit: The early bird may get the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese.) 00.08.26 # pop it open and see what chipset it uses, then write up a wiki page and see if anyone else who owns that player is interested in working on it 00.08.54 Quit mt (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 00.12.10 Quit mshathlonxp (Quit: Leaving) 00.13.09 Quit Luca_S (Quit: CGI:IRC) 00.13.28 # btw, in configure there is define for calmrisc cpu. Do we have any target with that? 00.14.14 Join mt [0] (~mtee@41.233.140.88) 00.14.24 Quit mt (Changing host) 00.14.24 Join mt [0] (~mtee@rockbox/developer/mt) 00.16.57 # wodz: IIRC one of the ancient archos ports used that CPU, but it was abandoned many years ago 00.18.19 Quit froggyman (Quit: Ex-Chat) 00.18.38 Join mshathlonxp [0] (~msh@5acba05e.bb.sky.com) 00.18.40 # yeah, it only got half finished and was removed from the repo because it needed a lot of special casing that was just bitrotting and causing trouble 00.19.24 Quit JackWinter (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 00.21.04 Join froggyman [0] (~seth@unaffiliated/froggyman) 00.22.04 # tbruff13: There appears to be a firmware update on coby's website for that player, so in theory a Rockbox port is possible. But as saratoga says, the first thing to do is identify the main chips (including the CPU). But I would guess it's a CPU Rockbox doesn't yet run on, which will make a port very hard. 00.22.25 Join JackWinter [0] (~jack@vodsl-9173.vo.lu) 00.23.53 # linuxstb, honetly I am in high school right now and I plan to major in information tecnology as a programmer I just need a start it is very confusing for someone who is just starting out i will try and make a port happen, but first i must learn c and c++ 00.25.53 # you're probably here a few years too early then 00.26.31 # wow their firmware update tool is weird 00.26.33 Quit GeekShadow (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 00.26.37 # it looks more like a debugger then a firmware updated 00.26.39 # updater 00.27.33 Quit L-Strife89 (Quit: Heading out for a while.) 00.27.54 # oh haha it is the ALi Corp. debug tool 00.28.48 # ok last question I need a complier for ubuntu at least help me out there so i can at least start learning c and c++ 00.28.58 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 00.29.34 # tbruff13: depends on what you want your code to run on but it's not really for this channel 00.31.20 Quit mshathlonxp (Quit: Leaving) 00.32.05 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 00.35.39 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 00.37.07 Quit tbruff13 (Quit: Leaving) 00.40.57 Quit n1s (Remote host closed the connection) 00.50.29 Quit low_light () 00.51.01 Quit Judas_PhD (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 01.03.27 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 01.05.07 Join [Saint] [0] (~st.lasciv@203.184.19.113) 01.21.05 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 01.21.06 Join bluebroth3r [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 01.22.57 Quit mudd1 (Quit: Ex-Chat) 01.45.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.50.12 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 01.58.37 Quit clmoe (Quit: Page closed) 02.02.41 Quit GeekShadow (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 02.20.21 Join soap [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 02.34.50 Quit RoC_MasterMind (Quit: Leaving) 02.38.43 Join soap__ [0] (~soap@94.75.232.194) 02.42.00 Quit soap (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 02.56.11 Join Keripo1 [0] (~Keripo@dhcp0101.kin.resnet.group.upenn.edu) 02.56.45 Quit Keripo (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 02.59.16 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 03.00.07 Join krazykit [0] (~krazykit@99-126-205-52.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) 03.01.10 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 03.04.51 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 03.24.08 Join fdinel [0] (~Miranda@modemcable036.124-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 03.32.30 Quit JackWinter (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03.34.13 Quit zenlunatic (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 03.38.01 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 03.45.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.00.47 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.00.57 Join zenlunatic [0] (~justin@c-68-48-40-231.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 04.01.32 Quit Keripo1 (Ping timeout: 241 seconds) 04.04.24 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng441.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 04.09.06 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 04.10.52 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 04.11.50 Quit soap__ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 04.23.52 # Luca_S, pixelma: that bug exists in current SVN too (just confirmed in r29783). 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& output contains 16 fractional bits, does it mean i should shift the original int32 input to 16bit fractional, and shift the output back to int32? 09.42.54 Quit [Saint] (Disconnected by services) 09.42.56 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (~st.lasciv@203.184.19.113) 09.46.54 # JoshuaChang: that could work if you don't need better precision, i don't know how this particular function works 09.46.59 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@24.229.139.169.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) 09.48.32 # well, thanks for the help, i'm trying to implement a pure int32 log function 09.53.05 # i think that the numbert of frac bits is the important thing 09.55.17 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4C6B7.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.56.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.57.36 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@sphinx.lix.polytechnique.fr) 09.57.36 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 09.57.36 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 10.19.27 Quit JoshuaChang (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 4.0.2pre/20110415144045]) 10.47.13 Join mshathlonxp [0] 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[0] (~5f303f8a@giant.haxx.se) 10.55.36 # that goes for me as well, but I still translated and I'm using my translation 10.56.05 # yeah, mostly familiarity, i'd say 10.56.23 # I just offered a few other reasons, I'm not saying any of them is necessarily wrong 10.56.41 # or right =) 10.56.49 # btw, why most of WPS don't show artwork which is as cover.jpg, apart from "cabbies"? 10.57.12 # because they think its useless? 10.57.19 # mshathlonxp: we can only speculate why people did what they did in their wps's 10.57.20 # you should ask the WPS creators that 10.57.53 # Bagder yeah, useless, so they show "no cover art available" 10.57.57 # :D 10.58.20 # that sounds like a bug then 11.40.50 # I'm not sure it can be... 11.41.04 # If the WPS is coded to show art, it'll show it, if it's present. 11.41.35 # unless the conditions of the WPS code are fucked up. 11.41.45 # errr..."messed" up, rather. 11.43.10 # without seeing the code (and, I don't really want to...btw ;)), I can only speculate, but I would say that the .wps is broken rather than the core. 11.43.13 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lem0n@151.62.162.165) 11.51.33 Nick S_a_i_n_t is now known as [Saint] (~st.lasciv@203.184.19.113) 11.53.36 # [Saint] if it would be that way, there is a lot of broken wps :) 11.56.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.58.36 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 11.59.26 Join JoshuaChang [0] (~joshuacha@222.70.142.35) 11.59.36 # <[Saint]> mshathlonxp: that's correct. There are. 12.00.06 # <[Saint]> about 80% of the wps on the themesite were batch converted and may/may not have errors. 12.01.02 # <[Saint]> a while ago, you may or may not remember, the theme syntax changed. it didn't just change a tiny bit, it changed dramatically and broke *every* theme made prior to that point. 12.02.24 # <[Saint]> So, the themesite was backed up, and branched, and was batch converted with a script that tried it's best to convert the old syntax to new, but there were certain things that this script just wasn't capable of doing, like putting things in their own viewport. 12.03.07 # <[Saint]> So, yes, you're right...there are a lot of broken themes...but if the theme authors don't care to update their themes, there's nothing we can do about it. 12.03.32 # <[Saint]> You're perfectly welcome to edit the theme yourself and upload a fixed version to the themesite. 12.07.29 # i have a small question about the skin parser, if the font defined in the wps file couldn't be found, then the parser will give up the reset of the wps definition? 12.08.04 # <[Saint]> pardon? 12.08.27 # <[Saint]> If a font is called by a theme, and that font is not present, the theme will fail. If that's what you're asking. 12.09.19 # is it possible to ignore the font and continue loading the rest of the theme? 12.11.31 # I think I understand how sd controller on rk27xx work more or less. Now coding time :-) 12.11.43 # <[Saint]> Probably, but I'm not sure that would ever get added. I don't see it to be correct behaviour. 12.11.48 # <[Saint]> JoshuaChang: ^ 12.12.02 # <[Saint]> If a part of a theme is missing, it should fail to load. 12.12.26 # <[Saint]> it should throw a splash or something more elegant than simply failing, but IMO failing is the correct action. 12.13.34 # then, i think it should at least show an error instead of write the debugf 12.14.02 # * [Saint] pokes JdGordon... 12.14.09 # sup? 12.14.50 # <[Saint]> Talking about "correct" behaviour when a theme element is missing. ie. a font. 12.15.18 # <[Saint]> How easy/hard would it be to throw a splash list the item(s) missing? 12.15.25 # not gonna happen 12.15.26 # <[Saint]> *listing 12.15.46 # why should a theme be considered unfinshed if it doesnt specify a font? 12.15.58 # JdGordon: he means if the file is missing 12.16.09 # not if the theme doesn't have the setting 12.16.13 # ah, thats different 12.16.17 # <[Saint]> yeah, something got lost in the translation there... 12.16.19 # not so difficult 12.16.25 # i've loaded many themes before, and they didn't throw any error in the real device, instead of lost cover atrs in the wps, i used to thought it was my device's fault 12.16.50 # [Saint] a while ago I was using PSP or discman to play music on the move so I can't remember :) 12.17.00 # until i build my own simulator~ 12.17.04 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 12.18.11 # <[Saint]> I personally don't believe that the theme should just load the items it can, instead of failing to load...as this could lead to all sorts of broken looking themes being displayed. 12.18.35 # <[Saint]> But I do however think we should be doing something more elegant than outright failing to apply them theme. 12.19.02 # <[Saint]> I assume the parser knows what's actually missing, so it could splash that to the screen? 12.19.50 # [Saint] in order to upgrade one wps, I should upgrade 10-25 wps, right, there's no just one wps from which are all different resolution ones built? :) 12.19.55 # the lost fonts was defined in the wps file, not in the cfg file 12.20.33 # <[Saint]> JoshuaChang: that doesn't matter. 12.20.54 # <[Saint]> mshathlonxp: I'm not sure what you're asking there. 12.21.26 # [Saint]: its not so simple to revert theme changes if they dont load 12.21.48 # * mshathlonxp looks in wps subfolder in source and sees 23 "cabbiev2" wps files 12.21.54 # that's what I mean 12.22.14 # well, forget it, i'm just complaining 12.22.15 # [no no, there's nothing wrong with cabbiev2] 12.22.21 # <[Saint]> mshathlonxp: what's wrong with the cabbies? 12.22.24 # <[Saint]> ah. 12.22.43 # I mean - if I would have to upgrade cabbiev2, I should upgrade all 23 files, right? 12.23.22 # <[Saint]> For your own use? 12.23.43 # no, for all use 12.23.55 # for my own use I have fixed 320x240 cabbiev3 12.24.21 # <[Saint]> cabbiev3 isn't part of the source. 12.24.37 # yes, I can see that 12.24.47 # <[Saint]> and if there's nothing wrong with cabbiev2, I'm not sure what you're saying needs changing. 12.25.11 # <[Saint]> we're pretty senstive about the look of the default theme ;) 12.25.25 Quit liar (Remote host closed the connection) 12.25.35 # there's nothing wrong with the default theme 12.25.49 # and cabbiev2 provided three needed strings for cabbiev3 12.26.25 # but if cabbiev3 isn't part of the source, where is it then? 12.26.25 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 12.26.42 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4C6B7.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.26.52 # <[Saint]> It exists on the themesite. 12.43.46 # [Saint]: we are crap about errormessages all around 12.46.19 # i guess mostly because of lazyness and the added bin/voice size of lot's of error messages 12.50.43 # <[Saint]> n1s: It could definitely be worse, I guess. 12.51.05 # <[Saint]> But them themes are particularly lacking in user feedback when something goes wrong. 12.51.09 # not really sure it could :) 12.51.45 # <[Saint]> Oh, it could. There's at least a few helpful splashes when something is wrong ;) 12.51.54 # <[Saint]> We could remove those if you want :P 12.52.14 # although i suppose with some thought we could have a couple of more generic ones with not much cost like "file not fount: path/to/font/" 12.52.25 # could also be used for other files that are not found 12.53.13 # found 12.54.38 Quit liar (Read error: Connection timed out) 12.55.03 # splashing a full file path is kinda awkward on things with small screens 12.55.20 # <[Saint]> n1s: Well, if you want to add these things... ;) 12.55.31 # <[Saint]> And yes, I agree with Torne there. 12.56.20 # <[Saint]> perhaps not the whole path/filename. maybe just something that equates to "something's missing, it's a bitmap/font/blah/foo" 13.04.31 # I think it would be sufficient to do simulator more verbose. 13.18.30 Quit wodz|work (Quit: CGI:IRC) 13.27.34 Quit Bagder (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 13.41.32 Part LinusN 13.54.34 Nick kugel_ is now known as kugel (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 13.54.35 Quit n1s (Remote host closed the connection) 13.56.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.02.25 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 14.07.21 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@giant.haxx.se) 14.10.34 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 14.22.45 Quit mt (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 14.24.28 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 14.49.51 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4C6B7.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.02.02 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@91-66-226-46-dynip.superkabel.de) 15.05.32 Join jfc [0] (~john@pool-72-73-80-12.ptldme.east.myfairpoint.net) 15.10.39 Join evilnick_B [0] (0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 15.19.47 Join casainho [0] (~chatzilla@bl15-106-59.dsl.telepac.pt) 15.20.47 Part timccc ("Leaving.") 15.25.51 Quit JoshuaChang (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 4.0.2pre/20110415144045]) 15.56.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.59.03 Part LinusN 16.01.15 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 16.05.37 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@giant.haxx.se) 16.11.09 Quit mystica555_ (Quit: Ekkusu Chatto) 16.13.27 Join mudd1 [0] (~cmertes@ip-78-94-202-227.unitymediagroup.de) 16.14.58 Quit casainho (Remote host closed the connection) 16.24.58 Join mystica555 [0] (~Mike@71-33-152-71.hlrn.qwest.net) 16.31.30 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 16.31.58 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! 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I can't test anything right now, but I will be able to over the course of the coming day. 19.03.49 # <[Saint]> bertrik: ^ 19.04.48 # [Saint], I wrote a patch to enable iap on the nano 2g (with some limitations) 19.05.01 # <[Saint]> it's on the tracker? 19.05.26 # not yet 19.08.02 Join mystica555_ [0] (~mike@71.33.152.71) 19.11.34 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@f048034090.adsl.alicedsl.de) 19.23.12 Quit Zambezi (Changing host) 19.23.12 Join Zambezi [0] (Zulu@unaffiliated/zambezi) 19.28.24 Join t0rc [0] (~t0rc@unaffiliated/t0rc/x-5233201) 19.28.59 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 19.30.19 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54B6699B.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.32.18 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:470:28:773:babe:feed:dead:bee) 19.39.10 Join j8048188 [0] (~60e40232@giant.haxx.se) 19.39.53 # quick question: is USB supposed to work on the e280v2? 19.41.32 # 19.45.43 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4C6B7.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.48.39 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@p5DD57951.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.48.39 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 19.48.39 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.48.52 # yes 19.49.40 # ok. is there a setting to have it work? I plug it in to a computer and it starts charging, but won't mount the fs. 19.49.52 # i've rtm and i see nothing applicable to it. 19.50.03 # theres no setting required 19.50.23 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@SEAS356.wlan.seas.upenn.edu) 19.51.50 # ok. Any suggestions? 19.52.01 # Are you holding menu (IIRC) when you insert it? If so it will charge 19.52.34 # i.e. don't hold a button 19.53.10 # no buttons are held. 19.53.23 # I have 2 seprate v2's and they both act the same. 19.53.25 # And RB is already running? 19.53.30 # yes 19.53.30 # What version of RB? 19.53.35 # 3.8.1 19.53.38 # and 3.8 19.53.42 # none of them work. 19.53.49 # my v1 mounts just fine. 19.54.00 # probably some quirk with our USB driver and your computer then 19.54.01 # bootloader 2.0 19.54.28 # i've tried ~10 different computers and the same problem occurs. 19.54.36 Quit Keripo (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.55.49 # Does anyone else have the problem, or just me? 19.56.06 # I haven't seen it reported 19.56.12 # But that isn't conclusive 19.56.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.56.58 # ok. 19.57.03 # thanks for all of your time. 19.57.51 # I love rockbox, just hate the database refreshes after i use it. 19.59.02 # is there just a way do disable the database refresh? 20.00.38 Quit ChickeNES (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.00.46 Nick kugel is now known as kugelp (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 20.00.51 Join ChickeNES [0] (~ChickeNES@128.135.100.102) 20.03.55 Join Guinness [0] (Slayer@c-68-55-111-159.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 20.05.25 Quit [Saint] (*.net *.split) 20.05.25 Quit Guinness` (*.net *.split) 20.05.26 Quit AlexP (*.net *.split) 20.05.26 Quit balintx (*.net *.split) 20.05.26 Quit YPSY (*.net *.split) 20.05.26 Quit gevaerts (*.net *.split) 20.05.26 Quit scorche|sh (*.net *.split) 20.05.26 Join AlexP_ [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 20.05.42 Join scorche|sh [0] (~scorche@squisch.net) 20.05.50 Join gevaerts [0] (~fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 20.06.26 Join [Saint] [0] (~st.lasciv@203.184.19.113) 20.07.00 Join balintx [0] (~quassel@szerver1.gulyasp-koll.sulinet.hu) 20.07.20 Join Ypsy [0] (~ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 20.07.30 Nick Ypsy is now known as YPSY (~ypsy@geekpadawan.de) 20.08.30 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 20.14.26 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@SEAS274.wlan.seas.upenn.edu) 20.18.09 Quit slooopy (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 20.19.14 Quit ChickeNES (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 20.20.52 Join slooopy [0] (~sloo@95-90-30-123-dynip.superkabel.de) 20.24.33 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 20.25.47 Join ChickeNES [0] (~ChickeNES@128.135.100.102) 20.25.56 Join thomasjfox [0] (~thomasjfo@rockbox/developer/thomasjfox) 20.30.50 Nick amee2eaten is now known as amee2k (~thomas@ve504.cugnet.net) 20.37.52 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 20.38.02 # j8048188: RB's database refresh is/should be backgrounded so why does this matter? 20.39.10 Quit mystica555_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 20.47.24 # no, the refresh in the OF after i disconnect the USB cable. 20.48.57 # Oh, well in that case, simply fill the player so that there's less than 15MB of space left and it won't refresh :) 20.49.06 # <[Saint]> I believe the (or a) "fix" for that is to fill up the player so that there's no room for the database to refresh. 20.49.13 # <[Saint]> snap. :P 20.55.17 # ok. Thanks for all the help. 20.55.24 # have a great day all! 20.55.27 # IIRC some of the OFs could be patched so that they didn't refresh 20.55.32 # But not the later ones 20.55.42 # that was on the e200v1 IIRC 20.55.55 # Could well be :) 20.56.51 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 21.00.56 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 21.04.05 Quit j8048188 (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 21.06.31 # that was it indeed and it barely works as it is 21.14.52 Quit t0rc (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.4) 21.22.28 Join Jacob_Lavoie [0] (~Jacob@unaffiliated/jacoblavoie) 21.23.07 # Where can i get a source of rockbox, or its games plugins? 21.23.25 # Jacob_Lavoie: Have you checked the website? rockbox.org 21.24.14 # yes, i do not know exactly where it is, i went to daily builds, downloaded the zip for my player, and found it to be pre-built 21.24.34 # i may have just answered my question 21.25.17 # hm, the source isn't too easy to find indeed... 21.26.00 # yep, i forgot that i had to go to the manual install page and download the source archive 21.26.06 # Jacob_Lavoie: for the 3.8.1 release, see http://www.rockbox.org/download/byhand.cgi 21.26.21 # already downloading :P 21.26.26 # For current builds, there's only the svn repository 21.26.58 # Sorry, I thought that it was more clearly signposted 21.28.41 # its alright, should have read the fine print (user error) 21.45.46 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@165.123.49.245) 21.47.06 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@46.115.19.13) 21.47.38 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lem0n@151.62.162.165) 21.48.35 Quit utanapischti (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.49.30 Quit ChickeNES (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 21.56.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.57.22 Join ChickeNES [0] (~ChickeNES@128.135.100.102) 21.57.40 Join lovasoa [0] (~lovasoa@cac94-9-88-162-232-8.fbx.proxad.net) 21.57.49 # Hi 21.58.45 # Would someone be kind enough to review my latest patch: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12079#comment39410 ? 22.09.38 Quit rasher (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 22.11.53 # No one? 22.12.33 # Is anyone online? 22.13.11 # I'll try again later... 22.17.10 # lovasoa: It's a little optimistic to expect help that quickly! 22.25.53 Quit lovasoa (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 22.29.25 Join silbo [0] (~quassel@193.40.244.204) 22.32.52 Quit ChickeNES (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.33.24 Join ChickeNES [0] (~ChickeNES@128.135.100.102) 22.39.07 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 22.40.41 Quit thomasjfox (Remote host closed the connection) 22.41.46 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@165.123.49.245) 22.44.30 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@87-206-240-131.dynamic.chello.pl) 22.45.00 # \o/ - got response from SD card on rockchip 22.46.13 # yay 22.47.02 Join lovasoa [0] (~lovasoa@cac94-9-88-162-232-8.fbx.proxad.net) 22.47.32 # bertrik: what does flag mean in sd command transfer (amsv2) - does it assigns type of response expected? 22.48.07 # Hi 22.48.10 # yes 22.48.25 Join ender| [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 22.48.55 # some commands don't result in a reponse, others send a standard short response (R1), others send a long response 22.49.08 # bertrik: just a wild idea - wouldn't it be better to pair commands with expected response and eliminate flag? 22.49.13 # wodz: whats the model of the rockchip player you're using? 22.49.36 # saratoga: you mean SoC or DAP? 22.49.41 # the DAP 22.49.50 # just curious if i can find one in the US 22.50.04 # saratoga: no name :-) but very similar to Ramos RM970 22.50.06 # wodz, maybe. But some commands seem to respond depending on the data sent to them (e.g. CMD7 SELECT/DESELECT) 22.50.38 # how compatible are similar players likely to be? 22.50.50 # The idea of using flags to indicate the kind of response was likely taken from how its done in the linux kernel 22.52.32 # Hello! Would someone be kind enough to review my latest patch: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12079#comment39410 ? 22.52.37 # saratoga: Honestly don't know. Mine is build on newer version of SoC but still seems to share refference design. 22.53.05 # lovasoa: did you get my PM before? 22.53.24 # the only difference I spotted so far is different GPIO for SD detect 22.54.15 # supporting that should be interesting 22.54.26 # About the datasheets? Yes, I found the general datasheet, but not the one related to air mode... 22.54.28 # bertrik: from what I read CMD7 response is R1b always (but I might be wrong) 22.55.06 # ok was curious if you found them 22.55.31 # wodz, I'm still a bit confused about this command, when expecting a response on this command when the argument is 0, I get an error, both on AMSv1 and AMSv2 22.55.55 # it seems the linux sd/mmc does not expect a response for this command either when the argument is 0 22.56.53 # But the page on nuxx.net (based on retro-engineering) is very good too... 22.57.38 Quit mshathlonxp (Quit: Leaving) 22.59.16 # lovasoa, I'll commit your patch tomorrow 23.00.58 # Wow thanks thanks thanks! 23.01.18 # And good night... 23.14.52 Quit lovasoa (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.19.38 # bertrik: MCI_LONG_RESP is R3 or R6? 23.21.52 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 23.28.47 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 23.30.54 # New commit by 03Buschel (r29784): Submit FS#12081. Check validity of channel configuration, comment unneeded code that is too inflexible to work with MAX_CHANNELS = 2. Fixes compiler ... 23.33.09 Quit kevku (Read error: Operation timed out) 23.34.35 # r29784 build result: All green 23.36.16 # what is max SD card clock freq? 24MHz ? 23.36.49 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: "Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored." - Aldous Huxley) 23.39.07 # 25/50MHz 23.39.15 # depending on high speed mode 23.40.20 Quit silbo (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.40.20 Quit B4gder (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 23.40.45 Join B4gder [0] (~daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 23.41.28 # nice 23.45.01 # and high speed mode is a property of card or controller? 23.45.40 Quit Buschel (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 3.6.16/20110319135224]) 23.47.04 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: Destructor called) 23.48.19 # IIRC the card reports what mode it supports, but i think all do high speed in practice 23.50.29 Part domonoky 23.56.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"