--- Log for 10.05.111 Server: lindbohm.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 18 hours and 44 minutes ago 00.00.28 Join lovasoa [0] (~lovasoa@2a01:e35:8a2e:8080:224:36ff:fee2:7c8f) 00.00.45 Quit CIA-87 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 00.01.25 Join simonlnu [0] (simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 00.01.43 Join CIA-32 [0] (~CIA@208.69.182.149) 00.06.00 Quit Panasonic (Remote host closed the connection) 00.07.01 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@213.165.85.248) 00.07.01 Quit sideral (Changing host) 00.07.01 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 00.07.21 Quit lovasoa (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 00.07.57 Quit Blue_Dude (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 4.0.1/20110413222027]) 00.08.19 Quit L-Strife89 (Quit: Moving out.) 00.11.21 Join crwll [0] (~crwlll@dsl-jklbrasgw1-fe8edf00-29.dhcp.inet.fi) 00.11.34 Quit alexbobp (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 00.11.34 Quit crwl (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 00.11.55 Join alexbobp [0] (~alex@adsl-75-42-224-55.dsl.austtx.sbcglobal.net) 00.15.00 Nick dfkt_ is now known as dfkt (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 00.16.46 Quit terataz (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 00.24.33 Join [Saint] [0] (~st.lasciv@124-197-3-117.callplus.net.nz) 00.25.25 Quit [Saint] (Client Quit) 00.26.21 Quit n1s (Remote host closed the connection) 00.29.15 Quit ender` (Quit: They could not know that this was because Greebo, as a matter of feline pride, would attempt to fight or rape absolutely anything, up to and including a four-horse logging wagon. -- Terry Pratchett: Witches Abroad) 00.30.24 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@124-197-3-117.callplus.net.nz) 00.33.55 Quit mudd1 (Quit: Ex-Chat) 00.39.23 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 00.41.31 # \o/ the fuze+ touch pad uses the synaptics RMI protocol; now I know how to talk to it 00.43.11 # whisper sweet nothings to it 00.43.11 Quit sideral (Quit: Leaving.) 00.52.09 Join Scromple [0] (~Simon@115-64-195-104.tpgi.com.au) 00.54.37 # the fuze+ officially has a 2-D TouchPad sensor 00.56.57 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.55=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 00.57.49 Quit bertrik (Quit: :tiuQ) 00.59.30 Quit simonlnu (Quit: bbl) 01.09.55 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 01.14.54 Join z35_11 [0] (~z35@ool-18bdad71.dyn.optonline.net) 01.16.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.16.43 Quit z35_11 (Client Quit) 01.17.28 Quit z35 (Remote host closed the connection) 01.17.49 Join z35 [0] (~z35@ool-18bdad71.dyn.optonline.net) 01.27.11 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 01.39.29 Quit MaynardWaters (Remote host closed the connection) 01.43.15 Join mshathlonxp [0] (~roxor@5e037b20.bb.sky.com) 01.45.54 Join simonlnu [0] (simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 01.50.55 Quit mshathlonxp (Quit: reboot) 01.53.44 Join mshathlonxp [0] (~roxor@5e037b20.bb.sky.com) 02.03.03 Quit mshathlonxp () 02.04.59 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 02.05.54 Join mshathlonxp [0] (~roxor@5e037b20.bb.sky.com) 02.06.49 Join [Saint] [0] (~st.lasciv@124-197-3-117.callplus.net.nz) 02.07.31 Quit [Saint] (Client Quit) 02.08.46 Join [Saint] [0] (~st.lasciv@124-197-3-117.callplus.net.nz) 02.14.31 Quit mshathlonxp (Quit: older driver is coming...) 02.16.58 Join mshathlonxp [0] (~roxor@5e037b20.bb.sky.com) 02.18.04 Quit Scromple (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.36.42 Join JoshuaChang [0] (~JoshuaCha@116.225.73.7) 02.45.24 Quit SecretofMana () 02.46.40 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.55=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 02.54.56 Join grndslm [0] (~grndslm@96.19.119.117) 03.01.49 Quit [Saint] (Disconnected by services) 03.02.27 Quit mshathlonxp () 03.16.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.17.20 Join [Saint] [0] (~st.lasciv@124-197-3-117.callplus.net.nz) 03.18.08 Part ibhan 03.26.33 Quit boghog (Read error: Operation timed out) 03.33.59 # <[Saint]> themes on the themesite are licensed as....? 03.35.58 # CC-BY-SA no? 03.36.14 # <[Saint]> Right, yep..just checking. 03.40.21 # <[Saint]> Just replying to "Grooveshark theme guy" who decided to include the grooveshark logo in his theme directly. 03.40.54 # yeah, saw the thread 03.53.03 Join Scromple [0] (~Simon@115-64-195-104.tpgi.com.au) 03.54.31 Join boghog [0] (~aphax@5357BAFA.cm-6-8c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) 04.04.37 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.04.40 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.04.42 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.04.49 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.04.50 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.05.07 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.06.07 Join danzasphere [0] (~root@n112h136.rs.de.inter.net) 04.09.06 Quit danzasphere (Quit: leaving) 04.10.03 # <[Saint]> kugel: I found a bug in RaaA 04.10.46 # <[Saint]> the HW "back" buttom exits rockbox after entering the "System" menu instead of going back one place to the Main menu. 04.11.09 # <[Saint]> I assume this is unintentional/undesireable...as it appears to be the only screen that does this. 04.24.31 Join kugel_ [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 04.27.38 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.38.09 Quit bthomson (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3-dev) 04.38.51 Join bthomson [0] (~bthomson@pool-71-114-64-197.washdc.dsl-w.verizon.net) 04.40.36 Join mark__ [0] (~mark@99-20-182-188.lightspeed.elgnil.sbcglobal.net) 04.53.36 Quit ricemark20 (Disconnected by services) 04.54.02 Join ricemark20 [0] (~mark@99-20-182-188.lightspeed.elgnil.sbcglobal.net) 04.54.49 Quit [7] (Disconnected by services) 04.54.56 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.57.50 Quit mark__ (Quit: Leaving) 04.58.24 Join mark__ [0] (~mark@99-20-182-188.lightspeed.elgnil.sbcglobal.net) 05.00.08 Quit mark__ (Client Quit) 05.00.25 Join mark__ [0] (~mark@99-20-182-188.lightspeed.elgnil.sbcglobal.net) 05.01.28 Quit mark__ (Client Quit) 05.01.47 Join mark__ [0] (~mark@99-20-182-188.lightspeed.elgnil.sbcglobal.net) 05.07.50 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FFF3A33.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.08.52 Quit ricemark20 (Disconnected by services) 05.09.17 Join ricemark20 [0] (~mark@99-20-182-188.lightspeed.elgnil.sbcglobal.net) 05.11.10 Quit Rob2223 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 05.12.14 Quit mark__ (Quit: Leaving) 05.13.13 Join mark__ [0] (~mark@99-20-182-188.lightspeed.elgnil.sbcglobal.net) 05.14.03 Quit mark__ (Client Quit) 05.14.13 Join mark__ [0] (~mark@99-20-182-188.lightspeed.elgnil.sbcglobal.net) 05.14.21 Quit mark__ (Client Quit) 05.14.47 Join mark__ [0] (~mark@99-20-182-188.lightspeed.elgnil.sbcglobal.net) 05.15.04 Quit mark__ (Client Quit) 05.16.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.31.55 Join markR2011 [0] (~mark@99-20-182-188.lightspeed.elgnil.sbcglobal.net) 05.32.17 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 05.32.38 Quit ricemark20 (Disconnected by services) 05.33.05 Join ricemark20 [0] (~mark@99-20-182-188.lightspeed.elgnil.sbcglobal.net) 05.35.43 Quit ricemark20 (Disconnected by services) 05.36.10 Join ricemark20 [0] (~mark@99-20-182-188.lightspeed.elgnil.sbcglobal.net) 05.38.03 Quit markR2011 (Quit: Leaving) 05.42.08 Join mark___ [0] (~mark@99-20-182-188.lightspeed.elgnil.sbcglobal.net) 05.43.03 Quit Horscht (Quit: Verlassend) 05.46.32 Quit mark___ (Client Quit) 05.47.07 Join mark___ [0] (~mark@99-20-182-188.lightspeed.elgnil.sbcglobal.net) 05.52.19 Quit ricemark20 (Disconnected by services) 05.52.46 Join ricemark20 [0] (~mark@99-20-182-188.lightspeed.elgnil.sbcglobal.net) 05.54.21 Quit mark___ (Quit: Leaving) 05.55.35 Join mark___ [0] (~mark@99-20-182-188.lightspeed.elgnil.sbcglobal.net) 06.07.00 Quit mark___ (Quit: Leaving) 06.48.09 Join Peddy [0] (~apc@unaffiliated/peddy) 06.48.22 # is there a patch to enable rockbox USB boot on amsv2? 06.54.03 # check the tracker 06.59.35 # JdGordon, I have - I can't find any mention of enabling boot-on-USB-plug. Any ideas? 07.01.51 # chekc the bootloader source code 07.01.56 # it is probably #ifdef-ed out 07.04.16 # should I just remove the # from "#ifdef USE_ROCKBOX_USB"? 07.09.38 # eh... 07.10.13 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 07.15.59 # Peddy: no, #define USE_ROCKBOX_USB at the top of the file 07.16.04 # or maybe its an option in configure 07.16.13 # * JdGordon isnt sure the correct way to enable it 07.16.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.19.19 # JdGordon, heh, I'll give that a shot... which file are you referring to? 07.19.40 # the bootloader 07.20.25 # there are many files in bootloader/. I looked in the sansa_as3525.c file, but there are no #define statements. 07.20.26 # there's another define that should be removed 07.22.02 # it's USB_HANDLED_BY_OF (does that do anything? lol) 07.23.21 # jhMikeS, which source file is this in? 07.23.56 # /firmware/export/config/.h 07.26.56 # hm, it seems those options are all correct. I already have USB handled by rockbox, but I want the player to boot rb rather than OF when USB is plugged in (when the player is turned off). 07.28.13 # jhMikeS: I could see a future use of a "metadata updated" event if you wanted to use that to tell the wps the AA is ready 07.28.37 # if you wanted a more generic event than one only for aa loaded 07.30.56 Join JoshuaChang_ [0] (~JoshuaCha@116.225.73.221) 07.33.03 Quit JoshuaChang (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 07.33.08 Nick JoshuaChang_ is now known as JoshuaChang (~JoshuaCha@116.225.73.221) 07.34.10 # I wanted to just do "track ready" which means metadata, aa, cuesheet and audio is loaded. track loading is split between mp3entry and the rest. if splitting it doesn't have whatever benefits it used to now, then no new event would be needed since it would be done in one shot. 07.34.42 # the split also makes it all alot more complicated 07.35.49 # isnt there always going to be the possibility of AA not being on the buffer when the track starts? 07.36.53 Join mudd1 [0] (~cmertes@ip-78-94-202-227.unitymediagroup.de) 07.44.42 Quit ricemark20 (Remote host closed the connection) 07.46.38 # sure, allocate a space for it off the buffer and copy it 07.46.43 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@giant.haxx.se) 07.49.29 # no, i mean, isnt the issue that the wps needs to be told when the AA is avilable? 07.49.30 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54B679D3.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.50.01 # which is always likely going to be a problem so an event is going to be needed anywa 07.50.55 Join kerobaros [0] (~kerobaros@75-132-19-83.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com) 07.51.35 # it appears to be the case sometimes unless something pushes the notification in sync with the audio thred 07.53.13 # is there a certain person in charge of developing the Fuze Plus port? I'd like to help test, if needed. 07.58.05 # kerobaros: thats not how we do development here... if you want to help out join the forum thread and hang out here, get your hands dirty :) 07.59.02 # deal. anything special i need to keep in mind if i'm building the toolchain on Arch 32-bit? 07.59.07 # or Arch 64-bit, for that matter 07.59.48 # nope, sudo tools/rockboxdev.sh 08.00.13 # righteous. 08.09.38 Join smk [0] (~smk@115.113.152.3) 08.11.29 # Buschel : are there any more changes required in libfaad , regarding malloc?. it's mostly complete right? 08.12.33 # smk: I am just adding some more error handling, if malloc fails 08.12.33 # I thought malloc could just have a setjmp trap like in vorbis 08.12.45 Part LinusN 08.13.03 # ok..so i will move on to other tasks then. 08.13.10 # [Saint]: it doesn't do that for me. Too bad, I would have liked having a secret "shutdown button" ;-) 08.13.11 Join terataz [0] (~rgtr@93-41-184-208.ip82.fastwebnet.it) 08.13.16 Quit terataz (Client Quit) 08.13.41 Quit eGen (Quit: ... gettin' screew my wife ....) 08.14.04 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@giant.haxx.se) 08.15.32 # <[Saint]> bluebroth3r: How recent is your build? You can build your own .apk right? If it's not, would you mind testing it on svn head for me if/when you can? 08.16.28 Join eGen_ [0] (generat0r@gate.mmdecin.cz) 08.16.57 # [Saint]: it's HEAD from yesterday evening (i.e. like 10 - 12h ago) 08.18.21 # <[Saint]> Hmmmm....interesting. 08.19.10 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@www.haxx.se) 08.19.10 Quit Bagder (Changing host) 08.19.10 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 08.19.14 # <[Saint]> Yeah, for me if I enter the "System" (Main menu) top level, I can't back out of it with the HW back button. 08.19.24 # so to make sure I got it correctly: change to System menu, then press back and it quits? 08.19.40 # <[Saint]> It's just that *one* place that does it, other than the main menu itself obviously. 08.19.56 # <[Saint]> yes, that's the correct "recipe" 08.20.24 Quit soap (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 08.20.51 # <[Saint]> Thanks for testing btw, guess it's something I need to look at, but I have no idea how any of my (trivial) patches are touching anything related to this. :-S 08.20.52 Join soap [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 08.20.57 # <[Saint]> "weird shit" TM 08.21.53 # i was going to suggest 'dark magic', but that would probably apply too 08.26.00 # yes 08.26.09 # always use dark magic 08.26.12 # never normal 08.30.08 Quit timccc (Remote host closed the connection) 08.33.14 Join timccc [0] (~lisa@112.166.15.141) 08.34.03 Quit timccc (Remote host closed the connection) 08.35.03 Quit Buschel (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 08.35.28 Part smk ("Leaving") 08.36.21 Join timccc [0] (~lisa@112.166.15.141) 08.38.43 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 08.39.58 Join n1s [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/n1s) 08.45.27 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.49.42 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:470:28:773:babe:feed:dead:bee) 08.56.25 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@p57954E13.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.10.00 Quit Zarggg_ (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 09.10.02 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@24.229.139.169.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) 09.15.39 Quit Zarggg (Quit: Zarggg) 09.16.03 # FS#12101 (Option for date format) seems to be miscategorized as "Database". Would it be "User interface", "Settings", or rather "Themes"? 09.16.06 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 09.16.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.16.58 # ui or settings 09.17.35 # That narrows it down quite a bit ;) 09.19.04 Quit Peddy (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 09.24.52 Join petur [0] (5bdc888b@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.26.35 # seems the test_codec's option has a bug: the "Speed test with DSP" option always run the "Speed test folder with DSP" function 09.27.06 # this gives me an idea... 09.27.24 # wonder if there's a Rockbox target with enough juice to run a convolver dsp? :) 09.27.29 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.28.59 Quit sasquatch (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2) 09.29.01 # convolver seems impossible even on a gigabeats 09.29.24 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@p4FF2D93D.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.30.56 Quit Scromple (Quit: Gone) 09.36.02 Join mem_ [0] (~mem@mem-irc.netnod.se) 09.56.20 Join Drise [0] (~Drise@76.73.173.3) 09.57.00 # Hey guys, I know I'm always coming in with random stuff, but! I think you should accept bitcoins as a donation method. 09.57.30 # Currently they are worth 4$ USD, and rising. 09.57.45 # It would be a nice way to get donations and have instant investment. 10.02.22 Join efyx [0] (~efyx@lap34-1-82-225-185-146.fbx.proxad.net) 10.11.11 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 10.11.13 Quit [Saint] (Disconnected by services) 10.11.14 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (~st.lasciv@124-197-3-117.callplus.net.nz) 10.16.47 Quit JoshuaChang (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 4.0.2pre/20110429182132]) 10.30.07 Quit petur (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 10.32.24 # Saint! hey man 10.33.52 # S_a_i_n_t, if you have any power over here at RB, I would like to propose rockbox to accept bitcoins as donations 10.34.33 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 10.37.26 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 10.41.17 Quit mudd1 (Read error: Operation timed out) 10.43.25 Join [Saint] [0] (~st.lasciv@124-197-3-117.callplus.net.nz) 10.51.17 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 10.57.47 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (~st.lasciv@124-197-3-117.callplus.net.nz) 11.12.49 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@vit94-1-82-67-248-70.fbx.proxad.net) 11.12.49 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 11.12.49 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.16.30 Nick kugel_ is now known as kugelp (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 11.16.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.23.10 # S_a_i_n_t: it doesn't do that here. but it it did month ago until I fixed it 11.24.50 # did you try my build yet? 11.34.33 Quit timccc (Remote host closed the connection) 11.46.12 Quit kerobaros (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.4) 11.47.29 Quit rdd (Read error: Operation timed out) 11.55.43 Quit CIA-32 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 11.58.09 Join CIA-81 [0] (~CIA@208.69.182.149) 12.07.14 Join timccc [0] (~lisa@112.166.15.141) 12.17.57 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust703.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 12.26.01 # New commit by 03sideral (r29851): tagnavi.config: Add a logical-OR operator ("|") for tagnavi conditionals. ... 12.30.53 # r29851 build result: All green 12.31.41 Quit kevku (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 12.33.23 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54A3BBD9.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.33.48 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 12.39.03 Join mshathlonxp [0] (~roxor@5e037b20.bb.sky.com) 12.54.14 Join DerPapst1 [0] (~Alexander@p57954AE6.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.57.13 Quit DerPapst (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 12.59.15 Quit shai (Quit: Leaving) 12.59.39 Join ricemark20 [0] (~mark@99-20-182-188.lightspeed.elgnil.sbcglobal.net) 13.01.32 Join gartral [0] (~CR-48@unaffiliated/gartral) 13.16.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.30.18 Nick kugelp is now known as kugel (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 13.30.36 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust703.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 13.33.11 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 13.37.12 Quit Galois (Read error: Operation timed out) 13.37.20 Join Galois [0] (djao@efnet-math.org) 13.38.10 Quit gartral (Remote host closed the connection) 13.41.32 Quit boghog (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13.46.39 Join boghog [0] (~aphax@2001:980:34c7:0:1e6f:65ff:fe86:1e03) 13.49.27 Quit timccc (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 13.51.44 Quit mshathlonxp () 13.53.55 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lem0n@151.62.171.85) 14.10.58 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 14.17.38 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 14.57.49 Join rdd [0] (~user@c83-250-52-16.bredband.comhem.se) 14.58.21 # amiconn: FS#12107 - Remove track-number generation heuristic from database 14.59.41 Quit cjcopi (Quit: ... going, going, gone) 14.59.52 Quit Bagder (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 15.05.01 Join timccc [0] (~lisa@112.166.15.141) 15.05.44 Quit crwll (Read error: Operation timed out) 15.10.09 Join Topy [0] (~Topy44@g228181104.adsl.alicedsl.de) 15.13.53 Quit T44 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15.16.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.27.45 Join evilnick_B [0] (0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 15.33.37 Part LinusN 15.39.29 Quit eGen_ (Quit: ... gettin' screew my wife ....) 15.45.22 Join fyrestorm [0] (~nnscript@cpe-24-90-84-81.nyc.res.rr.com) 15.55.48 Join crwll [0] (~crwlll@dsl-jklbrasgw1-fe8edf00-29.dhcp.inet.fi) 16.01.57 Join mudd1 [0] (~cmertes@ip-78-94-202-227.unitymediagroup.de) 16.06.25 Nick evilnick_B is now known as evilkinnikinnick (0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 16.19.26 Part mem_ 16.29.14 Quit crwll (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 16.35.32 # sideral: another way would be to use the stored flag FLAG_TRKNUMGEN when displaying results in tagtree.c and disable track number for files when that flag is present 16.37.11 # Slasheri: hmm, but of what other use would the generated track number be if it's not used in tagtree.c? I didn't find any other use of the data 16.38.18 # (at first I thought it was used for scrobbling, but that's apparently not true) 16.38.23 # sideral: i meant that it could be made user configurable by an option or via tagnavi.config whether to display or hide generated track numbers 16.39.13 # Slasheri: that's right. There even could be a tagnavi conditional for it. 16.39.17 # currently that flag is not used anywhere, but it should be possible quite easily create an option 16.39.28 # indeed 16.40.22 # But if we retain the feature, I think it should read the track number from the beginning of the file name, not from its end. Or is there any specific reason why you implemented scanning from the end? 16.42.12 # i think the reason was that some of my badly named tracks container disc number at the beginning and the track number was the least one. But indeed, it's quite impossible to make any foolproof assumptions 16.42.14 Join crwll [0] (~crwlll@dsl-jklbrasgw1-fe8edf00-29.dhcp.inet.fi) 16.43.49 # I was thinking about using filename sort by default, which would take care of the sorting issue without resorting to track-number guessing, but making that the default would be confusing as well I guess 16.44.23 # Also, filename sort sounds somewhat expensive 16.44.51 # But it should be doable today with custom %format and %strip clauses 16.45.02 # hmm.. that could create quite some confusion. Then it would be hard to play tracks in disc order? 16.45.45 # Don't think so, if we'd include the full pathname 16.46.27 # Both "Disc 1/01. Track 1.mp3" and "01.01. Track1.mp3" would sort nicely 16.47.06 # filename sort could work.. but it would hog the whole memory available for sorting and displaying results much more easily i think 16.47.49 # right, it's kinda nightmarish... I considered using an order-preserving hash, but eventually decided that it's not worth the effort 16.48.51 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust703.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 16.49.04 # BTW, have you seen that I've added logical-OR for tagnavi? I'm proud as hell :) 16.49.42 # sideral: yes, i just found that :) looks pretty good 16.51.19 # the lack of parentheses was the reason why i never even thought doing anything but ANDing :) 16.52.48 # I think that my solution (& trumps |) is quite workable. In my personal use of it, I could actually make use of a parenthesis, but it's just as fine to just repeat the conjunction 16.53.28 Join u42p [0] (~v35b@d052146.adsl.hansenet.de) 16.54.27 # Hey guys, I know I'm always coming in with random stuff, but! I think you should accept bitcoins as a donation method. 16.54.28 # S_a_i_n_t, if you have any power over here at RB, I would like to propose rockbox to accept bitcoins as donations 16.54.33 # Currently they are worth 4$ USD, and rising. 16.54.47 # Disregard that comment to saint... heh... my bad 16.54.54 # Slasheri: BTW, Thanks for your comments regarding resurrection and dynamic DB extension. 16.54.56 # It would be a nice way to get donations and have instant investment. 16.55.06 # is there some way we can use them to pay for physical goods? :) 16.55.12 # No fees, no paypal. 16.55.16 # sideral: no problem :) 16.55.26 # Yes torne, I buy amazon cards all the time. 16.55.39 # That's not normally the kind of thing the rockbox fund gets used for. 16.55.51 # You can also buy services, such as website design 16.56.09 # Slasheri: Re DB extension: I thought that maybe there's a way to do incremental commits and DB loads, given that the existing DB is pre-sorted. Or is anything like that already in place? 16.56.32 # Right, but currently we tend to spend the fund on things around devcon, or occasionally on buying neat things like that usb protocol analyser 16.56.32 # check out http://www.bitcoin.org/smf/index.php?board=5.0 16.56.44 # It seems unlikely that we can actually buy any of those things with bitcoins 16.56.51 # sideral: the dynamic DB extension is a really interesting idea. But doing it efficiently would need larger structural changes to the DB (like adding a binary index used for sorting) 16.56.52 # And sometimes you can get really good deals. 16.57.09 # so, we'd end up converting them into regular money via paypal or similar anyway, and that's less efficient.. 16.57.12 # Itr also can be converted to a currency of you choice, just find someone to trade for it 16.57.13 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@CPE0022b0d4bdb7-CM001a6680d4fe.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 16.57.29 Quit Keripo (Client Quit) 16.58.02 Join JoshuaChang [0] (~joshuacha@222.70.133.12) 16.58.11 # Slasheri: I think that given the indices are sorted in memory, finding the place to insert could be a simple binary search without another index 16.58.11 # Well, its also a nice investment method, as prices have been rising, yesterday I saw it go from 3.8$ to 4.75$ 16.58.35 Quit n1s (Remote host closed the connection) 16.58.43 # sideral: basically the master index (tagcache_idx.tcd) is always appended, while other tables are re-built during commit. It may be possible to do partial re-built on those other tables, but i can't say for sure 16.58.58 # And it was an idea, also they asked us to ask organizations to try to acept them. 16.59.13 # *accept 17.00.11 # Slasheri: The disk non-master indices could be left to be committed at next commit time (possibly reboot). We'd just have to log the updates much like we do today 17.00.40 # And Torne, if you so wish, I could trade them for you to paypal. I'm always on there trading anyway. 17.01.07 # I know that sounds kinda sketchy, but I do have a reputation there that I can be trusted. 17.01.08 Part u42p ("Leaving") 17.01.11 # i'm not suggesting it's a bad idea, just pointing out that there's not a lot of reason for us to encourage it 17.01.22 # sideral: ah, indeed :) that sounds much more efficient, simpler and doable now :) 17.01.34 # Would it hurt to put Donate via bitcoins! ? 17.01.50 # since it's likely that the end result of someone sending us what they think is the bitcoin equivalent of $5 will end being worth a lot less to us than if they sent us $5 17.02.02 # I would donate via bitcoins, but not persay paypal. 17.02.19 # well feel free to :) 17.02.25 # Slasheri: of course, that only works with Load-DB-to-RAM 17.03.19 # Drise: there isnt really a bad side and it wouldnt hurt - i mean donations are donations, however for our purposes (buying devices, devcon expenses, and giving money to developers for other similar) i dont see it as a preferable option to paypal 17.03.21 # Well as I said its an investment, as that 5$ donation may be worth 5.5$ tomorrow. 17.03.53 # and if we are needing to paypal money to convert them to "real money" anyway, then i really dont see the point 17.04.04 # scorche, I do see you points, and its easily tradeable for USD 17.04.33 # Sure, but the thing there is from our point of view it is much more convenient if the person who wants to donate trades them for USD first ;) 17.04.42 # You mostly do direct interactions with traders, and you say "I was to sell 5 BTC at 4.5 USD via paypal" 17.04.47 # And it generally works well. 17.05.05 # rockbox isnt in the investment business - the donations are simply there for people who feel that they got something from rockbox to give back in a monetary way 17.05.22 # the simpler this process is to use these donations, the better 17.05.34 # I know its not an investment business but you can let them do a little growing for you. 17.05.49 # investments may go down as well as up :) 17.05.59 # But surely I understand. 17.06.17 # Good point, but most of us see for the forseeable future of it rising. 17.06.22 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 17.06.36 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust703.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 17.06.55 # I myself have invested nearly 200$ in them, and I have more on the way, as I got hired and paid via btc. 17.07.14 # It was a proposeale. 17.07.19 # *proposal. 17.07.56 # Drise: thanks for the idea, but honestly, i dont see us getting into the bitcoin market until there is a nice, easy button to convert to "real money" 17.08.31 # ok, it comes down to: we are a pretty small project and we deal with pretty small amounts of money on the whole, and virtually everything we'd spend it on would need us to trade it for legal tender first. 17.08.55 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@CPE0022b0d4bdb7-CM001a6680d4fe.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 17.09.29 # Torne, I understand, and as I said previously, I would be willing to trade them for you. 17.09.54 # But that is just a s risky. 17.10.08 Join t0rc [0] (~t0rc@unaffiliated/t0rc/x-5233201) 17.10.13 # it's not really about risk, it's about effort 17.10.13 # But I have loved rockbox for ages,and would be willing to help out. 17.10.26 # and much much much more complicated than just accepting via paypal ;)_ 17.10.42 # participating in an alternate economy is only really worthwhile if you can actually trade for some reasonable proportion of your needs through it 17.11.18 # I do know of one gentlemen who is taking a roadtrip only on bitcoins, trading them along the way for gas or food. But I understand. 17.11.33 # He is in the process of promoting them. 17.12.33 # I do appreciate the discussion, and not "Drise gtfo". Wonderful to speak with you guys as always. 17.13.33 # Also, I have a question, any updates on the AMSv2 usb code? 17.15.08 # Drise: I'm rewriting some code but it's not finished and it's still not sure that it will bring any improvement 17.15.29 # Alright. 17.16.27 # Thank you gentlemen, and I shall be off. 17.16.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.18.07 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 17.18.24 # Slasheri: Can you give me an elevator-pitch overview of how chunked browsing works in the DB? When are the chunks generated / sorted / loaded? 17.23.23 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 17.23.24 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: Ex-Chat) 17.30.21 # from what i can tell bitcoins are somewhere between a scam and a bad idea 17.30.23 # http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2011/04/the-economics-of-bitcoin.html 17.30.29 # so probably not a great idea 17.32.51 Join japc [0] (~japc@194.65.5.235) 17.33.11 # Not a scam, no 17.33.52 # They are a new way to send money to someone without 3rd parties. 17.34.13 # But I'm not going to push it anymore. I accepted defeat ;) 17.34.16 # a highly *variable* amount of money 17.35.00 # the guy makes a good point: what people actually want is an anonymous transaction system 17.36.59 Quit Buschel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.37.36 # I just propose that you put an adress up anyway Torne. You would get atleast two donators, as I mentioned rockbox in #bitcoins-otc, and one gentlemen was Rockbox? I love rockbox! It let me tell apple to kiss my ass! 17.42.00 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 17.42.17 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust703.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 17.42.28 Join slooopy [0] (~sloo@95-90-30-123-dynip.superkabel.de) 17.44.00 # Hey guys I was given a question, primary> Drise: What platform is best for rockbox? 17.44.14 # I assume which is the most feature rich/stable 17.45.43 # depends on if you want a flash device or a hard drive device, really 17.46.31 # Either way, the best of them all. 17.46.53 # i'll vote for gigabeat s 17.47.33 # hardly. it may be the most powerful, but it has plenty of problems, not the least of which is the device deciding to format the hard drive 17.47.38 # JoshuaChang: that one is known for causing headaches... 17.47.49 # And it has rather poor battery life 17.48.05 # but it's cpu was sooo strong... 17.48.05 # There is no best of them all if you don't have priorities 17.48.29 # Best flash one then? 17.48.37 # I'm not sure what he was wondering. 17.48.41 # i could say "whatever is the cheapest" if i'm going to be putting it into harm's way 17.48.57 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 17.49.15 # i couldn't make vgm music with high quality reverb effect with my cowon d2 17.50.03 # If you want me to point to a specific device, I'd say the Archos Player is best, because it can get the biggest storage, and it has a screen with few enough detail to avoid confusion. Now don't complain that this is misleading advice! 17.50.18 # they eat around 250mhz cpu 17.53.17 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 17.54.35 # Heh gevaerts, it seems #bitcoin-otc agrees with you. 17.55.26 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 17.56.33 # drise, are you interested in console game music? 17.56.46 # Hm? 17.56.57 # I'm not sure what you are going about... 17.57.01 # like spc ,vgm music format 17.57.13 # You've gone over my head sir. 17.57.46 # ......forget it 17.58.45 # Sorry 17.59.03 # I'll just say Sorry, not really. 18.00.23 # if you don't know the format i said, then a archos player should be enough 18.01.05 # uh, no 18.01.15 # If you only want mp3, an archos player should be enough 18.01.17 # I was just asked what platform is best for RB 18.01.31 # There *are* more formats than mp3 and console game music 18.01.39 # And I didnt know, so I asked the guys who wrote the code 18.02.04 # for me, a powerful cpu is really important 18.03.00 # i think all the stable devices in the list are best for rb 18.03.22 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.55=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 18.05.09 Quit JoshuaChang (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 4.0.2pre/20110429182132]) 18.12.46 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 18.18.12 Quit sideral (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 18.30.43 Quit krazykit (Quit: awe yeeeeeee) 18.32.25 Quit icarusfactor (Quit: Leaving) 18.32.47 Join icarusfactor [0] (~factor@r74-195-188-223.msk1cmtc01.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 18.34.03 Nick icarusfactor is now known as factor (~factor@r74-195-188-223.msk1cmtc01.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 18.35.59 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 18.39.57 Join L-Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@207.144.201.128) 18.44.09 Join Jerom1 [0] (~jerome@95.171.148.84) 18.47.24 Join Stummi [0] (~Stummi@rockbox/developer/Stummi) 18.55.50 Quit saratoga (Changing host) 18.55.50 Join saratoga [0] (9803c6dd@rockbox/developer/saratoga) 19.00.16 Join toffe82 [0] (~chatzilla@maf.wirelesstcp.net) 19.05.07 # I think I found which are the two types of LCDs of the fuze+: id 9325=ili9325, 7783=st7783, there are pretty close registerwise it seems 19.10.34 Quit L-Strife89 (Quit: Back to work.) 19.12.51 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 19.12.51 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 19.12.51 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 19.15.01 Quit user890104 () 19.16.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.18.56 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:470:28:773:babe:feed:dead:bee) 19.19.44 Quit japc (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 19.22.29 # New commit by 03pamaury (r29852): fuze+: add init/enable/disable lcd sequences for the second lcd kind (only based on disassembly, untested) 19.26.54 Join user890104 [0] (~Venci@6bez10.info) 19.27.12 # r29852 build result: All green 19.27.57 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lem0n@151.62.171.85) 19.45.03 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.46.49 Join rj6979 [0] (be5217d6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.190.82.23.214) 19.48.35 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54B67348.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.52.36 Quit t0rc (Read error: Operation timed out) 19.57.31 Quit rj6979 (Quit: Page closed) 20.07.56 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 20.12.04 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@213.165.85.248) 20.12.04 Quit sideral (Changing host) 20.12.04 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 20.14.03 Join Xerion [0] (~xerion@5419A078.cm-5-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) 20.16.58 Quit bluefoxx (Quit: Can we, should we, will we?) 20.21.03 # New commit by 03Buschel (r29853): Proper initialization of static variables in codeclib. 20.25.46 # r29853 build result: All green 20.31.00 Part Drise ("Leaving") 20.34.16 Join bluefoxx [0] (fuzzylomba@S0106485b3917092d.vs.shawcable.net) 20.34.44 Quit crwll (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 20.41.29 Join crwll [0] (~crwlll@dsl-jklbrasgw1-fe8edf00-29.dhcp.inet.fi) 20.41.45 Join dp [0] (~gms8994@dp.cx) 20.42.03 # is anyone working on the iPod Nano 3rd Gen port? 20.43.31 # haven't heard of anyone working activily on such a port 20.43.56 # k 20.47.56 # * benedikt93 is spending some (tiny bit of, actually) time on doing RE stuff on this, and code from the Classics can partially be used, but time (besides my missing experience) limits me pretty much 20.48.28 Join L-Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@207.144.201.128) 20.51.41 # sideral: any plans on updating the manual and or the DataBase wiki page for your "or" change? 21.04.34 # New commit by 03Buschel (r29854): Implement error handling for libfaad's memory allocation. Do not allocate PS related types dynamically anymore to minimize code changes. 21.04.46 # pixelma: did you have time to test that build? 21.05.35 Quit crwll (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.06.17 Join semizilla [0] (~chatzilla@unaffliated/semitones) 21.07.11 # hmm, no yet. 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I don't think the manual covers the tagnavi format in any detail, does it? 21.32.32 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@g228181104.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.35.02 Quit bertrik (Read error: Connection timed out) 21.35.16 Quit slooopy (Ping timeout: 263 seconds) 21.35.48 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 21.37.04 # sideral: oh ok. I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't, haven't checked sorry 21.38.31 # pixelma: Me neither, so let's assume it's true. :) I'm planning to touch up the wiki page incrementally, perhaps we can use it in the manual eventually. 21.41.47 Quit L-Strife89 (Quit: Heading home.) 21.41.53 Quit soap (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 21.42.22 Join soap [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 21.42.41 Part dp 21.43.12 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@87-206-240-131.dynamic.chello.pl) 21.43.54 # I need advice how to check if the cpu goes really into sleep mode in core_sleep() 21.44.02 # any ideas? 21.48.56 Join slooopy [0] (~sloo@95-90-30-123-dynip.superkabel.de) 21.49.32 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@24.229.139.169.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) 21.54.32 Quit Stummi (Quit: Bye!) 21.56.42 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: The quality of my life is going straight up now that i have a shotgun.) 22.10.12 Quit slooopy (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 22.20.08 # New commit by 03alle (r29855): Manual: typeset the commas using the normal font, not as 'fname' 22.24.27 # r29855 build result: All green 22.24.38 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: Ex-Chat) 22.29.19 Quit efyx (Remote host closed the connection) 22.31.23 Join Keripo1 [0] (~Keripo@CPE0022b0d4bdb7-CM001a6680d4fe.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) 22.34.27 Quit Keripo (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.54.26 Join JesusFreak316 [0] (~JesusFrea@pool-173-65-83-240.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) 22.56.00 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 23.05.27 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@f053155209.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.05.27 Quit bluebrother (Changing host) 23.05.27 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 23.05.58 Nick evilkinnikinnick is now known as evilnick (0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 23.07.09 Nick evilnick is now known as evilnick_B (0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 23.08.32 Quit bluebroth3r (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.16.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.17.09 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 23.21.21 Quit evilnick_B (Quit: Page closed) 23.22.31 Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.38.32 # New commit by 03Buschel (r29856): Correct notation of a few supported audio formats in the manual. 23.41.35 Quit semizilla (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 3.6.13/20101203075014]) 23.42.31 # r29856 build result: All green 23.47.30 Quit Buschel (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 3.6.17/20110420140830]) 23.51.16 Quit ender` (Quit: Kiss a pair of boobs and the movie's rated R. 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