--- Log for 20.05.111 Server: pratchett.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 16 hours and 44 minutes ago 00.00.03 Quit Buschel (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 3.6.17/20110420140830]) 00.03.40 Join Beremaat [0] (~ANAL@pool-71-246-118-217.nycmny.east.verizon.net) 00.04.02 # Zagor: I get "ERROR 2003 (HY000): Can't connect to MySQL server on 'buildmaster.rockbox.org' (111)", so something seems to be wrong 00.04.43 # yeah the socket says 127.0.0.1:3306 here so it looks like we changed the config at some point 00.05.10 # I can't remember why or how though. it does feel a bit scary just opening up our mysql to the world :-) 00.13.15 Quit JdGordon| (*.net *.split) 00.13.15 Quit mystica555 (*.net *.split) 00.13.15 Quit Beremat (*.net *.split) 00.18.41 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@login.ok-labs.com) 00.18.41 Join mystica555 [0] (~mike@71-33-157-247.hlrn.qwest.net) 00.18.56 Quit JdGordon| (*.net *.split) 00.18.56 Quit mystica555 (*.net *.split) 00.19.37 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@login.ok-labs.com) 00.19.37 Join mystica555 [0] (~mike@71-33-157-247.hlrn.qwest.net) 00.21.37 Quit ender` (Quit: The real problem is not that those who stop believing in God will believe in anything, but that those who have faith in God can justify doing anything. -- Simon Morris) 00.23.38 Nick Beremaat is now known as Beremat (~ANAL@pool-71-246-118-217.nycmny.east.verizon.net) 00.25.42 Join Nano4G [0] (~61774bbb@giant.haxx.se) 00.26.13 Quit Nano4G (Client Quit) 00.28.27 Quit bluefoxx (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 00.33.34 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 00.34.01 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 00.34.43 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 00.40.17 Join Scromple [0] (~Simon@115-64-195-104.tpgi.com.au) 00.42.43 Join bluefoxx [0] (fuzzylomba@S0106485b3917092d.vs.shawcable.net) 00.47.19 Quit DerPapst1 (Quit: Leaving.) 00.58.46 Part Zagor 01.03.57 # bluebrother (Buschel): I wonder about the \tabularnewline Buschel is using instead of \\ in the table, doesn't look so easy to read 01.15.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.19.29 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 01.22.44 # and I hate non-stop mode (STOP=1 doesn't seem to work anymore) 01.27.34 Join maxsin [0] (~maxsin@212-178-25-253.broadband.tenet.odessa.ua) 01.32.25 # ah, the \tabularnewline seems to be from earlier 01.39.19 Quit ChickeNES (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 01.45.05 # the manuals that fail seems to be ones that use sansaAMS and the mpio one for some reason though I can't see why yet 01.45.52 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.55=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 01.47.24 Quit bluefoxx (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.48.36 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust703.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 01.53.21 Join krazykit [0] (~krazykit@99-126-205-52.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) 01.59.08 Quit sideral (Quit: Leaving.) 02.01.46 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 02.04.27 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 02.12.11 Quit liar (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.12.27 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 02.21.41 Quit liar (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.22.09 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 02.28.31 Quit mudd1 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.55.27 Join bluefoxx [0] (fuzzylomba@S0106485b3917092d.vs.shawcable.net) 02.59.58 Quit S_a_i_n_t (Disconnected by services) 03.00.00 Join [Saint] [0] (~st.lasciv@124-197-3-117.callplus.net.nz) 03.02.58 Join guymann [0] (~charles@66-159-175-226.adsl.snet.net) 03.15.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.23.43 Join ChickeNES [0] (~ChickeNES@128.135.100.102) 03.26.22 Quit liar (Quit: hallowed are the ori!) 04.01.31 Join JoshuaChang [0] (~JoshuaCha@180.175.6.233) 04.01.53 Quit ReimuHakurei (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.03.32 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 04.03.34 Join bluebroth3r [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 04.05.08 Join ReimuHakurei [0] (~reimu@74.112.212.15) 04.19.28 Quit maxsin (Quit: Leaving.) 04.24.34 Quit TheSeven (Disconnected by services) 04.24.43 Join [7] [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.31.35 Quit boghog (Quit: boghog) 04.37.08 Join fyrestorm [0] (~nnscript@cpe-24-90-84-81.nyc.res.rr.com) 04.46.42 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 04.47.40 Quit factor (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.48.16 Join JdGordon1 [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 04.48.19 Quit kugelp (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.50.32 Quit JdGordon| (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 04.51.01 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.51.01 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.51.13 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.51.15 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.51.17 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.51.18 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 05.03.14 Join factor [0] (~factor@r74-195-188-223.msk1cmtc01.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 05.11.08 Quit bluefoxx (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 05.15.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.19.35 Join bluefoxx [0] (fuzzylomba@S0106485b3917092d.vs.shawcable.net) 05.23.57 Quit bluefoxx (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 05.26.39 Quit ChickeNES (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 05.29.41 Join bluefoxx [0] (fuzzylomba@S0106485b3917092d.vs.shawcable.net) 05.44.51 Quit balintx (Remote host closed the connection) 05.45.08 Join balintx [0] (~quassel@szerver1.gulyasp-koll.sulinet.hu) 05.53.39 Join Rob2223 [0] (~Miranda@p4FFF2DEB.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.58.15 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 05.58.23 Join ChickeNES [0] (~ChickeNES@128.135.100.102) 06.09.18 Quit bluefoxx (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 06.24.37 Join Horschti [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 06.28.19 Quit Horscht (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 06.32.52 Join bluefoxx [0] (fuzzylomba@S0106485b3917092d.vs.shawcable.net) 06.43.47 Quit wtachi (Quit: &) 07.15.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.26.03 Quit JoshuaChang (Remote host closed the connection) 07.34.13 Nick kugel is now known as kugelp (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 07.44.40 Join JdGord [0] (~AndChat@pa58-109-219-175.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au) 07.50.03 # New commit by 03pixelma (r29901): Manual, audio formats table: remove the \nopt{ipodnano2g} and pull the row and column separators out of the \opts to make the manual build again which ... 07.53.37 # r29901 build result: All green 07.58.22 Quit JdGord (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07.58.39 Join JdGord [0] (~AndChat@pa58-109-219-175.pa.vic.optusnet.com.au) 08.04.58 Quit JdGord (Quit: Bye) 08.06.04 # the gigabeats opt could probably be dropped completely but I have to leave now 08.06.21 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 08.08.50 Quit simonlnu (Quit: brb) 08.09.08 # in this place I mean 08.09.53 Join simonlnu [0] (simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 08.11.16 Join mem_ [0] (~mem@mem-irc.netnod.se) 08.15.05 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54B66C5E.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.26.50 # pixelma: thanks for fixing the manual build. but now the iPod nano 2G manual contains both comments for APE. only the first one is relevant. 08.28.54 # \nopt{iponano2g} is required in this case. I will re-introduce it as your fix was related to newline and columns, not to the nopt-thingy... 08.29.02 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 08.30.24 # New commit by 03Buschel (r29902): Minor manual fix: iPod nano 2G is fast enough to decode ape -c3000. 08.33.37 # r29902 build result: All green 08.35.31 Quit ChickeNES (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 08.38.21 Quit Buschel (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 3.6.17/20110420140830]) 08.41.25 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.45.45 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 08.48.47 # Buschel: using \nopt there affects all other swcodec manuals except the Nano2g one though, I think there is another solution to this. I didn't have the time to think it through completely but I think it is completely unnecessary as the comment will only appear for the targets in the \opt ... 08.49.33 # which is why I removed it 08.51.07 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 08.51.07 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 08.51.07 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 08.52.26 # ah, the "ipod" opt, ok 08.53.06 Join DerPapst [0] (~Alexander@p5791688A.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.53.12 Quit bthomson (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3-dev) 08.54.50 # and now the \nopt only affects the already limited target list, looks like the correct order now 08.54.55 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@213.165.85.248) 08.54.55 Quit sideral (Changing host) 08.54.55 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 08.55.36 Join B4gder [0] (~daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 08.56.56 Join bthomson [0] (~bthomson@c-68-33-5-232.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 08.59.53 Join n1s [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/n1s) 09.01.41 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.02.03 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@giant.haxx.se) 09.04.29 Quit DerPapst (Quit: Leaving.) 09.15.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.23.54 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.28.59 Quit sasquatch (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2) 09.29.22 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@p4FF2D9C8.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.30.39 Quit n1s (Remote host closed the connection) 09.32.46 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 09.37.45 Quit bluefoxx (Quit: Circular logic works because circular logic works because circular logic works because circular logic works because circular logic works because circular logic works because circular logic works because circular logic works) 09.41.28 Join factor [0] (~factor@r74-195-188-223.msk1cmtc01.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 09.42.34 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 09.47.56 Join mudd1 [0] (~cmertes@2001:638:504:20e0:221:70ff:fe83:655e) 09.51.11 Quit mudd1 (Client Quit) 09.53.20 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@vit94-1-82-67-248-70.fbx.proxad.net) 09.53.21 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 09.53.21 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 09.57.48 Quit Scromple (Quit: Gone) 10.16.22 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 10.17.09 Quit [Saint] (Quit: Imagination is for turbo-nerds who can't handle how kick-butt reality is. 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I just installed a much larger battery and the life isn't quite stacking up, I have a feeling the regulator might have something to do with it 14.55.44 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 15.00.00 Part LinusN 15.01.28 Quit B4gder (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 15.07.09 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 15.12.16 Part mem_ 15.14.52 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lem0n@ppp-152-63.26-151.libero.it) 15.16.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.51.34 # https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnnpTCiERQHLdHB6dUVxb1VwcUZPWWdJN0FXNzVCcWc&hl=en_US&authkey=CPKO284G 15.54.22 Join wtachi [0] (~wtachi@cpe-065-190-012-236.nc.res.rr.com) 15.57.41 # I don't see the great fluctuations you speak of. Where should I be looking? 15.57.53 # And what device is this? 15.58.00 Quit user890104 () 15.58.06 # clmoe, 15.58.17 # it's a clipp 15.58.37 # the normal battery doesn't jump up at all 15.58.54 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/pub/Main/SansaRuntime/battery_bench_Clip_8-22-10.txt 15.59.10 # this battery is comparatively all over the place 15.59.13 # I don't see great jumps... 16.00.09 # Is that BB from your Clip with the stock battery or a different clip? 16.00.11 # the start is 842, 846, 844, 844, 845 16.00.34 # that's a different clip with a stock battery, just used it to show what the stock battery does 16.01.00 # the playtime on this is looking to be a lot lower than expected as well. That BB was with two 3600mah batteries 16.01.07 # parralell, obviously 16.01.10 # err, no. 16.01.21 # Two variables. Don't attribute the differences to the "stock" battery. 16.01.43 # go look at the end of the log then 16.02.05 # backlight turned on when player turned off. 16.02.06 # ? 16.02.30 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.02.41 Join antil33t [0] (antil33t@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 16.02.48 # not sure, I just ran it overnight and plugged it in when I woke up 16.02.50 # the deviations we're talking about are 0.004 volts. 16.03.08 # (except for the end where there was human interaction and thus backlight load) 16.03.12 # looks completely sane. 16.03.19 # so what about the runtime then? 16.03.45 # looks like a shitty third party fake chinese battery with a higher-than-normal internal resistance and thus more voltage drop under load than the stock one. 16.04.17 # that's probably it 16.04.27 # would that attribute to the runtime as well? 16.04.27 # :( 16.04.41 # yes, as the capacity number is pulled out of thin air. 16.05.34 # can I check the mah with a voltmeter by chance? 16.05.37 # or whatever they are called 16.05.46 Quit krazykit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 16.07.00 # man I'd have to dig out the wires to test it 16.07.09 # everything's secured with hot glue 16.07.11 # best measure is applying a fixed load and measuring the area under the curve. 16.07.12 # :d 16.07.26 # well, the proof of the pudding is in the tasting. 16.07.41 # >under the curve 16.07.45 # Do you have reason to suspect the Clip itself? 16.07.48 # dum terms? 16.07.57 # no, I think the stock battery got close to normal runtime 16.08.21 # then I think you can safely live with the assumption the new battery is a piece of crap. 16.08.25 # the only part I suspect is the VR, and only because there is supposidly a much larger current going through it 16.08.31 # ? 16.08.37 # What increased the current? 16.08.44 # well 16.08.46 # the amps 16.08.50 # I get my terms mixed up nshit 16.08.52 # no 16.08.58 # the capacity is higher, might be breaking something 16.09.14 # you can't measure amp-hours with a meter. 16.09.14 # You put a (supposedly) larger fuel tank in your car. You are not burning more fuel per mile (more amps). 16.09.25 # amps are not the same thing as amp-hours 16.09.27 # This is the same number of amps, but for a longer period of time. 16.09.44 # ah 16.09.57 # so I could guess the total amps hour from that bb then 16.10.02 # yes. 16.10.11 # ish. 16.10.15 # if you knew the load. Does the clip measure the load? 16.10.20 # only approximately :) 16.10.24 # soap: i don't think so 16.10.31 # at least not that we display 16.11.22 # so he can't measure the capacity, eh? 16.11.27 # There is something that says 5mv 16.11.35 # that's probably not it 16.11.42 # voltage != amperage 16.11.50 # rough math puts the total runtime at 32 hours or so 16.11.58 # which means that the capacity is close to 600mah? 16.12.00 # soap: okay i guess not :) 16.12.12 # clmoe: you can't work out the capacity without knowing both the duration and the current draw 16.12.32 # so unless the clip displays that somewhere (which would be a number in amps or milliamps) or you measure it yourself with a meter, no 16.12.43 Join edhelas [0] (~edhelas@LPuteaux-151-41-23-46.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) 16.12.47 Part edhelas 16.13.00 # well I just took what the total runtime would be based on how quickly it drained during that BB, and compared that time to a 15 hour average runtime for the normal battery 16.13.03 # You have only one known value and two unknowns :) 16.13.10 Join edhelas [0] (~edhelas@LPuteaux-151-41-23-46.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) 16.13.12 # Right, but you don't know if the current draw is the same or not 16.13.15 # hye everyone :) 16.13.30 # how could the draw be different if the situation is the same? 16.13.39 # other than my theory that it's the VRs fault 16.13.51 # which isn't looking good 16.14.14 # i see that there is a patch on rockbox website to enable piezo in ipods devices (i've got an ipod mini) but it didn't works on recent releases (3.8.1) 16.15.08 # I mean, the current draw might be different based on what music is being played, but even then it should still be a good -rough- guess 16.15.39 # enough to tell that these batteries are rated something like ten times over what they are actually doing 16.15.52 # Well, did you ahve identical settings on the devices? 16.15.59 # also, clips are not all identical hardware, iirc 16.16.06 # there are variations in type of screen/etc 16.16.11 # which might draw different amounts of current 16.16.13 # clip and 600mah sounds unresonable. My ipod 5G 60GB has a 600mah battery. 16.16.28 # soap: the ipod video batteries are actually pretty small physically 16.16.36 # that's what she said 16.16.39 # haha 16.16.48 # is there something in future release who speak about enabling internal speaker (piezo) sounds ? 16.16.50 # Well, I agree that it's not super likely 16.16.54 # the screen was off during almost all of the test though 16.17.01 # and the stock battery in the clip is 290mah 16.17.39 # Right. it's *fairly* unlikely that any replacement battery is double the capacity unless it's noticably physically larger somehow 16.17.52 # oh these things are huge 16.17.59 # Yes, but compared to the original battery, i mean 16.18.00 # two 18650 cells 16.18.09 # Is it twice as thick as the original? :) 16.18.17 # because if not there's not a lot of chance of it being twice the capacity. 16.18.20 # the batteries are 1.5 times the size of the clip 16.18.26 # external mount 16.18.29 # Oh. 16.18.36 # oh wow. 16.18.37 # they are big enought o be 3600mah batteries 16.18.40 # i've found nothing on the wiki 16.18.47 # 3600? No way. 16.19.04 # 3600mAh batteries are, like, 1.5" square and 0.75" thick 16.19.07 # 3600 would be the size of 2 zippo lighters. 16.19.13 # 18650s are like what an "A" size battery would be. Another step bigger than "AA" 16.19.41 # I'm wondering if there are any 18650s that -aren't- cheap chinese ones 16.19.46 # (yes, that is a new unit of volume) 16.19.50 # Oh right, i see what you mean now 16.20.02 # yes, 18650s might well be up to 2400mAh *each* 16.20.06 # they are pretty big 16.20.07 # 1.5 times the size of the clip /each/? 16.20.12 # both togeather 16.20.13 # soap: They are huge, really 16.20.21 # yeah lemme get a pic real quick 16.20.26 # I need to take a showah soon though 16.20.45 # soap: they're the kind of cell lots of laptop batteries are made of 16.21.05 # soap: so yes, even one is probably at *least* the volume of the entire clip, but in a cylinder shape ;) 16.21.32 # But yes, if you bought those on the internet somewhere they are cheap shitty chinese cells which will struggle to have more than a tiny fraction of the noted capacity 16.21.38 # because of the market for lemons ;) 16.21.49 # oh I know they are shitty chinese ones 16.21.57 # I paid like, 15$ for them 16.21.59 # ok, so we've concluded the capacity claims are within the realm of reason. Still think the voltage fluctuations as shown in the google doc is sane and there is not an overwhelming reason to trust the capacity numbers given. 16.22.03 # didn't matter if they were 16.24.23 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.25.54 Join antil33t [0] (antil33t@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 16.26.35 # >refreshing your media 16.26.37 # little POS 16.27.56 # alright I got some sloppy pictures of my sloppy battery job 16.28.16 # now that I look at it, the clip really is small 16.28.17 # http://i.imgur.com/tVfna.jpg 16.28.28 # http://i.imgur.com/DyR2X.jpg 16.28.30 Join boghog [0] (~aphax@2001:980:34c7:0:1e6f:65ff:fe86:1e03) 16.28.46 # the world would be a better place if more cameras could macro focus. 16.29.23 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.29.42 # I've got some shitty shit kodak 16.29.47 # it's terrible at everything 16.29.52 # but you get the point 16.29.55 # batteries are fuckin huge 16.30.23 # and everything's covered in hot glue 16.30.31 # and I've got to tear all of it down when I get new batteries 16.30.32 # :( 16.30.40 # http://www.batteryjunction.com/2600pcb-18650.html these look good? 16.31.57 Join antil33t [0] (antil33t@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 16.32.18 # (shower time, be back in 10-15) 16.32.50 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.34.27 # nothing about the internal speaker in ipod devices ? 16.35.00 Join antil33t [0] (antil33t@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 16.36.05 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.37.44 Join antil33t [0] (antil33t@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 16.41.58 # <[Saint]> Are the manuals broken? 16.41.58 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.42.08 Join antil33t [0] (antil33t@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 16.42.17 Join user890104 [0] (Venci@venci-notebook-lan.ipv6.6bez10.info) 16.42.43 # <[Saint]> I can't seem to find the "Theme Tags" section in the Cowon D2 manual 16.43.12 # <[Saint]> so either it was removed (which, would be an odd descision), or the manual is broken. 16.43.34 # * [Saint] pings pixelma about this, for lack of knowing who else to. 16.43.41 Quit user890104 (Client Quit) 16.43.53 # There's something wrong with them, yes 16.44.00 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 16.44.09 # I think there was breakage & fixing, perhaps they just didn't get rebuilt again yet? 16.44.25 # <[Saint]> Ah, well...thanks for confirming that gevaerts 16.44.43 # <[Saint]> O, yes, good point sideral 16.44.52 # <[Saint]> perhaps they need to be repopulated yet. 16.45.34 # pamaury: I've tested the AMSv2 USB PIO driver with a vanilla SVN checkout, and got the same results :( 16.45.34 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.46.19 Join user890104 [0] (Venci@venci-notebook-lan.ipv6.6bez10.info) 16.46.28 # So, does anyone know a good place to buy batteries from? I'll probably go for 2400-2600mah cells this time 16.46.44 # also, would I be able to use internal VRs instead of the clip VR? 16.46.51 # some 18650s come with internal VRs 16.47.59 Join antil33t [0] (antil33t@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 16.48.05 # <[Saint]> Hmmmmm....none of the skin variable syntax is in the Theme Tag section. 16.48.47 # * [Saint] wants to "Grrrrrr" at a certain skin engine dev, but gives him some grace for the now due to RL stuff ;) 16.48.47 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.51.01 Join antil33t [0] (antil33t@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 16.51.08 # <[Saint]> Oh, right....it's in the CustomWPS wiki, but not the manuals, it seems. 16.54.47 # edhelas: search on flyspray (the bug tracker) 16.54.47 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.54.55 # edhelas: there's a patch which implements it, not yet committed. 16.55.19 # Torne: yep i try it but the 3.8.1 sourcecode can accept this patch 16.55.27 # *cant 16.55.39 # the patch is not going ot be based on a release branch, try it on the current head 16.55.46 # if not then it's just outdated and you'll have to rebaseline it 16.55.52 # or wait for someone else to do so 16.55.54 # <[Saint]> Yeah, it's out of sync, I've been meaning to get around to it. 16.55.55 Join antil33t [0] (antil33t@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 16.56.03 # <[Saint]> it's not going to apply in it's present state. 16.56.06 # there ya go. ;) 16.56.25 # okay 16.56.40 # <[Saint]> Unfortunately, I have a life ;) 16.56.43 # is that just not committed yet because nobody is that bothered, or what? :) 16.56.51 # <[Saint]> It gets in the way of things I want to do :P 16.56.53 # are there outstanding issues? 16.57.45 # <[Saint]> Torne: Y'know....I honestly think it *could* be comitted. AFAIK the only issue is the menu for it. 16.57.46 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.58.11 # <[Saint]> Some people believed it should be integrated with the keyclick setting menu, and not seperate from it. 16.58.17 # yep 16.58.38 # <[Saint]> I don't personally agree with that...but, "meh". 16.58.45 # <[Saint]> I'd like to see it go in. 16.59.02 # <[Saint]> it's kinda the "last thing missing" from the iPod experience on Rockbox. 16.59.15 # <[Saint]> (well, some targets miss more than others) 16.59.25 # So, when I order some more batteries 16.59.35 # they probably won't come in the little plastic wrap thing mine did 16.59.46 # anyone have ideas as to how to mount the leads? 16.59.56 # [Saint]: i like the "click" sound on the original firmware :) 16.59.58 Join antil33t [0] (antil33t@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 17.00.07 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@207.144.201.128) 17.00.31 # for this I just got a little space under the plastic and shoved the wires in there, so the plastic holds them on the leads 17.01.00 # <[Saint]> edhelas: Yes, I want to play with the frequency used for the "click" in that patch. It doesn't sound quite right. 17.01.14 # okay :) 17.01.21 # <[Saint]> I don't want it to immitate the OF exactly, but, to me it sounds a little weird presently. 17.01.42 # <[Saint]> Oh, heh...there's me forgetting you've probably not heard it functioning ;) 17.01.44 # you can stick a microphone and record the original sound to see what frequences it has ^^ 17.02.18 # OK so this doesn't in fact sound like it's done ;) 17.02.32 # if we're going to commit it, we might as well commit it making the "right" noise ;) 17.03.09 # okay :) it will be good 17.03.10 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.03.28 # <[Saint]> Torne: Oh, the sound is good. I'm just being a picky bastard ;) 17.03.40 # that's fine though :) 17.03.43 # <[Saint]> It sounds fine really, just..."different" if you're used to the OF. 17.03.46 # you're one of the people that seems to care about the silly noise 17.03.51 # it can be commited soon ? 17.03.54 # so i suggest you make it make a noise you like :) 17.04.02 # because then at least *one* person will be happy ;) 17.04.08 # <[Saint]> hahahah! 17.04.09 # :D 17.04.21 # [Saint]: can't you make the noise configurable? 17.04.23 # * gevaerts hides 17.04.57 # <[Saint]> I have a WIP floating around here somewhere that attempted that... 17.05.11 Join antil33t [0] (antil33t@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 17.05.12 # <[Saint]> I didn't get the range quite right, though. 17.05.27 # hah 17.05.29 # yeah don't do that. 17.05.41 # I'm sure Apple© has deposed a patent in this "click" sound :D 17.05.53 # *on 17.06.17 # edhelas: don't say that! 17.06.20 # and definately don't check. 17.06.25 # knowing about patents is bad. 17.06.28 # :) 17.06.56 # <[Saint]> It wouldn;t surprise me if they had some BS "blanket/cover-all patent" on "Interface makes audible response on selection of UI element" or something equally vague. 17.07.07 # :p 17.07.16 # seriously discussing patents on stuff you are implementing is just universally bad 17.07.30 # it's much safer to just ignore their hypothetical existence 17.07.32 # <[Saint]> like bringing bananas on a boat. 17.07.43 # due ti wilful infringement clauses etc 17.08.36 # http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001JDRPXM/ref=s9_simh_gw_p23_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=159NP3N224B0RXM2H891&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846 gosh that's a big link 17.08.36 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.09.13 # I guess I'll go ahead and order two of those 17.09.54 Join antil33t [0] (antil33t@124-197-51-80.callplus.net.nz) 17.10.06 # [Saint]: you will commit that patch in the niglty built or on some branche ? 17.10.10 Part Zagor 17.10.22 # edhelas: neither :) 17.10.34 # new features get committed to trunk, which is built constantly 17.10.49 # <[Saint]> I won't personally, as there's more than a few people who'd think it wasn't in the best interests of the project for me to have direct commit access ;) 17.10.49 # the nightly builds are largely irrelevant 17.10.56 # (why do we have them?) 17.11.24 # i might commit it, if you folks who care come back and tell me you're happy with it and i don't see any pressing reason not to ;) 17.12.20 # <[Saint]> I pretty much just have to wedge it back into the tree. People who really care about it one way or another can sort out how the menu should be after the fact. 17.12.49 # change the noise, if you want a different noise :p 17.12.57 # we're not having that configurable, it's a waste of space. 17.13.06 # remind me the fs# 17.13.16 # and i'll put it on my list 17.13.23 # <[Saint]> 5111 iirc 17.13.40 # Saint: Something is wrong with the WPS changes you made to the literal theme (http://pastebin.com/SGyb7CNr): It doesn't show elapsed time and total time any more 17.13.57 Join krazykit [0] (~krazykit@173-161-55-241-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) 17.16.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.17.54 # thanks for all :) 17.18.23 # [Saint]: ok, i'm watching it now. resync it and tweak the noise if you want and prod me some other time, and i'll see about it 17.18.23 # if there something news about this where can i see it ? 17.18.38 # edhelas: register for an account on the bugtracker and watch FS#5111 17.18.48 # it will email you when it gets commented on then 17.18.53 # okay :) 17.20.34 # <[Saint]> sideral: Hmmm...runs through checkwps ok... 17.21.51 # Saint: In comparison to the screenshot at http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=832&target=sansaclipplus, the playlist position is left-aligned and the track's time data is missing 17.22.34 # <[Saint]> sideral: alrighty, I'll have a look at it right now. 17.22.47 Quit petur (Quit: *plop*) 17.26.31 # hmm, looks like you just forgot to include the info :) 17.27.06 # * sideral uses his knowledge of sendmail.cf syntax to decipher the theme 17.28.49 # <[Saint]> http://pastebin.com/isBiw2Us 17.29.10 # <[Saint]> sideral: Yeah, I indeed neglected the playcount stuff. 17.29.21 # <[Saint]> that'll do it. 17.29.37 # Thanks! But he, even I can see that you forgot a % before "ar" :) 17.30.02 # <[Saint]> heheh, yeah...I was um....testing you, heh. 17.31.43 Join user890104_ [0] (Venci@venci-notebook-lan.ipv6.6bez10.info) 17.31.56 Quit user890104 (Read error: No route to host) 17.32.02 Quit dfkt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.32.03 # * [Saint] blames the feet falling off his mouse for foiling his ability to select things properly and missing out the relevant "%" 17.32.10 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 17.32.26 Nick user890104_ is now known as user890104 (Venci@venci-notebook-lan.ipv6.6bez10.info) 17.33.41 # Saint: Another issue: the elapsed time doesn't update in realtime any more 17.35.17 # only when entering the WPS 17.37.55 # <[Saint]> although I can't see why, there's a chance that scrolling that line (it souldn't actually scroll, but I let it, if it needed to) is messing things up. 17.38.03 Quit bluefoxx (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 17.38.09 # Ah! -- %s -- "Scrolling lines can not contain dynamic content such as timers, peak meters or progress bars" says the wiki 17.38.40 # <[Saint]> http://pastebin.com/q62j4A3L 17.39.16 Part edhelas 17.39.23 # <[Saint]> sideral: Yes, but...it should only effect the updating *while* it's scrolling. 17.39.46 # <[Saint]> unless it got broken, and doesn't behave that way anymore. 17.40.18 # <[Saint]> Gah! I pasted the wrong pastebin-thingy :/ 17.40.22 # <[Saint]> not my day. 17.40.38 Quit shai (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 17.43.09 # no problem, I fixed it with Rockbox's text editor. :) Thanks Saint! 17.43.37 # <[Saint]> Eeek! you're brave ;) 17.44.15 # <[Saint]> RB's text editor and v-keyboard on a clip+skin syntax==recipe for insanity 17.44.36 # :) 17.44.48 # need to go offline now. Thanks again! 17.45.24 Quit sideral (Quit: Leaving.) 17.45.48 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4A1F1.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.53.41 Quit user890104 (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 18.05.07 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 18.07.34 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: Ex-Chat) 18.13.29 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 18.20.16 # [Saint], gevaerts: they are *daily* manuals, built once a day and the fix was committed after today's build round. Some manuals were broken after this new audio formats table and the theme section comes behind it - so the html one just stopped there but the PDF should have it but lacks the table of content 18.21.08 # everytime they are broken this way, people ask for a way to trigger a new build of them at least manually but nothing has come out of it yt 18.21.17 # or yet 18.31.42 Quit tchan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.4) 18.32.59 Quit antil33t (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 18.36.11 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 18.38.22 Join [Saint] [0] (~st.lasciv@124-197-3-117.callplus.net.nz) 18.39.30 Join Jerom1 [0] (~jerome@95.171.148.84) 18.59.43 Join captainewkll [0] (cf57a9a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.87.169.162) 19.00.23 Quit krazykit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 19.05.43 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 19.08.30 Join user890104 [0] (Venci@venci-notebook-lan.ipv6.6bez10.info) 19.09.16 Join DerPapst1 [0] (~Alexander@p5791688F.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.09.38 Quit DerPapst (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 19.10.35 Quit pondlife (Quit: Leaving.) 19.11.46 Quit Horschti (Quit: Verlassend) 19.14.10 Quit balintx (Remote host closed the connection) 19.14.25 Join balintx [0] (~quassel@szerver1.gulyasp-koll.sulinet.hu) 19.16.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.17.14 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.22.43 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: Hofstadter's Law: It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law.) 19.49.22 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 19.49.25 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 19.49.25 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 19.49.26 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 19.51.22 # rasher, does this look like a good translation patch to you? http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12122?getfile=23671 19.52.52 # Looks correct to me 19.53.19 # Ok, then I'll apply it, thanks 19.53.23 # I thought the features should be left for deprecated phrases? 19.53.32 Join ChickeNES [0] (~ChickeNES@128.135.100.102) 19.53.41 # pixelma: they should, but that wasn't done in english.lang 19.53.47 # but maybe it was done wrong in the... 19.53.48 # so the translation will mirror that 19.53.51 # Yep 19.53.58 # yeah understood 19.54.04 # http://svn.rockbox.org/viewvc.cgi/trunk/apps/lang/english.lang?r1=29701&r2=29876 19.54.36 # what's the problem there? 19.55.20 # bertrik: it should've been *: none\nheadphone_detection: "" 19.55.26 # I think pixelma is right. I may have committed the bad english.lang change 19.55.40 # oh ok 19.55.53 Join u42p [0] (~v35b@d084192.adsl.hansenet.de) 19.56.08 Quit sideral (Remote host closed the connection) 19.56.25 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 19.56.38 # It doesn't help that this was done incorrectly many times in the past, so people looking for how to do it will get the wrong idea 19.56.43 # I think I can fix that in the romanian language patch. Or is it already to late for that? 19.56.49 # Yeah, too late 19.56.55 Quit Jerom1 (Quit: Leaving.) 19.57.11 # Once it's in english.lang there's no sense in going back 19.58.05 # We haven't committed many lang changes since then. I think it's still time to fix english.lang 20.00.55 # you decide :) 20.01.04 # sideral: has the feature been tested on a hwcodec target? From what I understand it looks like it's based off some higher level stuff not the playback engine so it could work, just wondering 20.06.23 Quit sideral (Remote host closed the connection) 20.06.58 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 20.07.04 Join fml [0] (~chatzilla@manz-590f3298.pool.mediaWays.net) 20.08.01 # pixelma: hello. \tabularnewline is indeed harder to read than \\ but it's necessary if you use \raggedright in a table. 20.08.27 # it should work pixelma. would be nice if you tested it! 20.08.28 # Since in that mode \\ means a line break within a cell. 20.08.30 # the below table seems to be fine 20.13.34 # How can I make the IRC log be updating with firefox 4? With FF3 I had a "live connection", with FF4 I don't have it. 20.15.14 # ff4 doesn't support the method we use for that 20.16.11 # Bagder: is it some hacky tricky method? Or standard http? 20.16.36 # it's kind of hacky, yes, there is no "standard http" way 20.17.18 # it should most probably be made to use websockets with recent browsers 20.18.58 # how does it do it? :) 20.19.13 # is it cool and oldschool? x-multipart-replace? :) 20.20.31 # aw that's cheating 20.20.34 # I don't remember exactly, it is zagor's department 20.20.46 # it's just hanging response 20.21.26 # so yes, that's totally nonstandard and only works with renderers which are willing to render incrementally 20.21.35 # which is generally considered a broken way to render modern web content ;) 20.22.03 # that's my point 20.22.12 # ajax would be the way I guess 20.22.26 # * Bagder doesn't like web programming... 20.22.28 # comet 20.22.45 # well, comet is "just" long-polling isn't it? 20.22.47 # probably. if you want it to work largely the same 20.23.19 # proper comet isn't long polling 20.24.02 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 20.24.10 # but it's often easier to go with long polling :) 20.24.27 # anyway, nobody has made a version that works with ff4 20.28.12 Join krazykit [0] (~krazykit@99-126-205-52.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) 20.38.05 Quit ReimuHakurei (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.38.05 Join ReimuHakurei [0] (~reimu@74.112.212.15) 20.38.42 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 20.39.57 # New commit by 03bertrik (r29903): FS#12122 - Translated the missing string in Romanian. by Sergiu Rotaru 20.42.37 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 20.43.38 # r29903 build result: All green 21.08.43 Quit fml (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 4.0.1/20110413222027]) 21.16.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.23.38 Quit evilnick_B (Quit: Page closed) 21.53.12 Join charris2587 [0] (~Adium@rrcs-173-196-204-18.west.biz.rr.com) 21.54.24 # what are the stumbling blocks to getting rockbox installed on an Ipod Classic 21.57.06 # hello? 21.57.46 # is this thing on? 21.57.50 # hi charris2587, I have no idea, but if someone else online here knows, they will let you know. 21.58.03 # ah okay :) 21.58.04 # gracias 22.00.42 Join evilnick_B [0] (0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 22.05.29 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54A3A32D.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.16.56 Join rdd [0] (~user@c83-250-52-16.bredband.comhem.se) 22.19.34 Join n1s [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/n1s) 22.37.29 # charris2587: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IpodClassicPort 22.37.47 Part u42p ("Leaving") 22.41.27 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 22.43.22 # thanks 22.43.23 # :) 22.43.25 # thats really helpful 22.44.14 # * linuxstb wonders if that's sarcasm... 22.44.42 # why are programmers 22.44.45 # always sarcastic 22.44.48 # and negative 22.44.51 # linuxstb: I couldn't find a better page! 22.44.57 # ITS HELPFUL 22.45.00 # my god 22.45.04 # no.. 22.45.07 # it wasnt sarcastic 22.45.10 # thank you strife 22.45.51 # charris2587: I was being serious - I wouldn't call that page useful for someone coming to the site and looking for information on installing Rockbox. 22.45.56 # charris2587: You're welcome. 22.46.21 # i understand its a different port of rockbox 22.46.25 # But he's right; the page isn't really useful except for giving you a link to a bootloader. 22.46.25 # but this works 22.46.30 # so thank you 22.46.44 # Here's the thing - the page it links to isn't Rockbox at all. 22.46.56 # Just a something that can boot it. 22.46.59 # i know its a different linux version 22.48.03 # Neither Rockbox or emCore have anything to do with Linux. 22.49.11 # The Rockbox port to the Classic is just a normal port of Rockbox, no different to any other. The difference is that there is no Rockbox bootloader, so you need to use emCore to boot it. 22.49.12 # linuxstb: Also, doesn't one need to compile their own build for that target? 22.49.39 # Strife89: No, there are automatic builds, I just don't think they are linked very widely. 22.50.01 # Here - http://build.rockbox.org/data/rockbox-ipodclassic.zip 22.50.06 # Ah 22.50.18 Join dfkt|x [0] (~chatzilla@unaffiliated/dfkt) 22.50.36 # that's not a port difference anyway, just a distribution thing, and a hint that it really isn't ready for most end users 22.52.57 Quit captainewkll (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 22.53.14 # the builds are linked on the dev.cgi page from the table. You don't see that usually if the table is collapsed though :) 22.59.15 # before tha usb issues are solved the port can be quite hard to actually use on the affected players 23.01.04 Quit n1s (Remote host closed the connection) 23.03.26 Quit FoH (Remote host closed the connection) 23.08.34 # * sideral pings pamaury 23.12.08 Join gbl08ma [0] (~gbl08ma@195-23-182-176.net.novis.pt) 23.13.46 Quit [Saint] (Disconnected by services) 23.13.47 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (~st.lasciv@124-197-3-117.callplus.net.nz) 23.16.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.17.11 # <[7]> n1s (for the logs): I got a full success report from an iPod classic with USB problems in the meantime, with the fix applied to both emcore and rockbox, so there seems to be some progress 23.17.23 # <[7]> and i can't reproduce any problems with the patch applied to my nano2g 23.18.49 Quit dfkt|x (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 4.0.1/20110504060048]) 23.21.18 # * Strife89 looks to see how the Clip+ USB issues are doing. 23.25.54 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.55=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 23.27.52 Quit evilnick_B (Quit: Page closed) 23.28.35 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lem0n@151.26.63.152) 23.33.45 Quit TheLemonMan (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 23.35.03 # Strife89: pamaury has a new PIO-mode USB driver ready for testing in FS#11664. Unfortunately it doesn't work for me :( but YMMV 23.36.00 # english please 23.36.03 # sideral: I'm in the middle of setting up my build environment (again), so we'll see soon. 23.36.33 # charris2587: No worries, it has nothing to do with the iPod. :) 23.37.00 # AMSv2 devices (such as the Sansa Clip+) have USB issues. 23.37.21 # There is a patch in testing that tries to fix the problem. 23.39.36 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lem0n@ppp-152-63.26-151.libero.it) 23.40.59 # sideral: Does it still patch/compile in the current revision? 23.41.09 # I believe so 23.41.24 # Building the toolchain is taking forever ... :/ 23.41.48 # Cross compiler rather 23.50.33 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: Ex-Chat) 23.52.57 Quit wtachi (Quit: &) 23.56.12 Quit gbl08ma (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)