--- Log for 28.05.111 Server: pratchett.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 6 hours and 57 minutes ago 00.00.01 Quit ChickeNES (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 00.06.35 Quit Xerion (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.08.54 Join Xerion [0] (~xerion@5419A766.cm-5-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) 00.17.19 Join ChickeNES [0] (~ChickeNES@128.135.100.102) 00.22.55 Quit {phoenix} (Remote host closed the connection) 00.38.37 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@f048197002.adsl.alicedsl.de) 00.42.05 Quit Topy44 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 00.49.01 # Rockbox's UI has a terrible design in fact. 00.50.18 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 00.51.33 Ctcp Ignored 4 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 00.51.33 # * bluebrother happens to like it a lot 00.52.03 # It would be good if someone could make a better one. 00.52.49 # stdcall: i would agree that that would be good - the problem is finding and getting that someone to do it ;) 00.54.34 # How about you? 00.56.08 # i lack the motivation, free time, and ideas of how to improve it 00.56.14 # how about you? 00.58.29 # Me? Well, I would be glad, but I have no free time to do it. 00.58.37 Quit sideral (Quit: Leaving.) 00.59.12 # then it looks like you should get used to the current design ;) 00.59.25 # and what's the problem with the current one? 01.01.59 Quit antil33t (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.02.07 # Non-professional design. 01.02.13 # ROTFL 01.02.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.02.43 # you're trying to troll around? 01.03.10 # stdcall: that is hardly specific...also, professionals do silly things like labelling a button used to go backwards "menu" too 01.03.50 # most so-called "professional" UIs I have seen are _far_ worse. So I definitely prefer non-professional if that's what it is. 01.04.44 # Blue, are you the author of the current one? 01.05.28 # of the current what? WPS? 01.05.47 # but no, I have neither worked on the WPS nor Themes in general or UI. 01.16.12 Join antil33t [0] (~antil33t@124-197-33-15.callplus.net.nz) 01.30.19 Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.50.19 Quit Judas_PhD (Remote host closed the connection) 01.53.05 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 02.08.32 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 02.19.47 # * S_a_i_n_t picks up 02.19.55 # "what is *wrong* with the UI... 02.20.02 # hint: be careful ;) 02.20.17 Nick S_a_i_n_t is now known as [Saint] (~st.lasciv@124-197-3-117.callplus.net.nz) 02.22.18 Quit efyx (Remote host closed the connection) 02.23.18 # <[Saint]> I always like it when people come in and say "the UI should be better"...but give *no* useful information on how that should be done. 02.27.22 Quit ChickeNES (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 02.37.00 Quit GeekShadow (Remote host closed the connection) 02.41.29 Join ChickeNES [0] (~ChickeNES@128.135.100.102) 02.44.47 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 02.55.55 Quit Judas_PhD (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03.00.09 Quit antil33t () 03.02.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.10.28 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 03.11.09 Quit simonlnu (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03.21.02 Join ricemark20 [0] (~mark@99-20-182-188.lightspeed.elgnil.sbcglobal.net) 03.21.32 Join simonlnu [0] (simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 03.22.41 Join simonlnu_ [0] (simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 03.23.26 Quit simonlnu (Read error: Operation timed out) 03.23.32 Nick simonlnu_ is now known as simonlnu (simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 03.31.56 Quit GeekShadow (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 03.43.03 Quit dfkt (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 03.47.02 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 03.55.34 Quit ricemark20 (Quit: Leaving) 04.10.13 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@g231227030.adsl.alicedsl.de) 04.10.14 Quit kugel (Changing host) 04.10.14 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 04.11.01 Quit kugelp (Read error: Operation timed out) 04.13.05 Quit TheSeven (Disconnected by services) 04.13.13 Join [7] [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.29.28 Quit rasher (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.33.19 Join rasher [0] (~rasher@rockbox/developer/rasher) 04.37.01 Join antil33t [0] (~antil33t@124-197-33-15.callplus.net.nz) 04.40.23 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.40.23 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.40.41 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.41.23 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.41.25 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.41.27 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 05.02.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.02.58 Quit wtachi (Quit: &) 05.05.13 Quit antil33t () 05.19.19 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FFF1531.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.23.35 Quit Rob2223 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 05.33.03 Quit Buschel (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 3.6.17/20110420140830]) 06.00.42 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 06.05.07 Quit Judas_PhD (Client Quit) 06.05.57 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 06.15.27 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@c-76-28-198-27.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 06.24.27 Quit FoH (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 06.25.15 Join Horschti [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 06.28.22 Quit Horscht (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 06.32.12 Join FoH [0] (~foh@adsl-98-83-211-194.bhm.bellsouth.net) 06.41.46 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 07.01.38 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 07.02.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.12.19 Quit keyb_gr (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 07.14.25 Quit FoH (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 07.19.43 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 07.20.37 Join FoH [0] (~foh@adsl-98-83-211-194.bhm.bellsouth.net) 07.21.30 # 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How does function default_event_handler_ex work? 11.10.20 # What does it return value mean? 11.11.23 Join Stummi [0] (~Stummi@rockbox/developer/Stummi) 11.15.43 # A return value != 0 means that the event has been handled? 11.17.00 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 11.25.07 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 11.26.17 Join JdGord [0] (~AndChat@106.70.201.136) 11.26.27 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 11.30.24 Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11.31.27 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 11.32.19 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@cez63-2-88-164-98-172.fbx.proxad.net) 11.32.20 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 11.32.20 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.38.37 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@c-24-11-93-185.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 11.38.38 Quit jhMikeS (Changing host) 11.38.38 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 11.48.50 # does Android remote .so files on installation if it thinks they are unused? 11.58.18 Quit ChickeNES (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 12.02.36 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 12.12.00 Quit JdGord (Quit: Bye) 12.20.28 Quit Guinness (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.20.57 Join Guinness [0] (Slayer@c-68-55-111-159.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 12.29.16 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B49F8A.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.39.27 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@124.165.21.93.rev.sfr.net) 12.39.30 Quit GeekShadow (Changing host) 12.39.30 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 12.50.39 # FS#12015 has a thai translation without a real name of the submitter from march 17, should we close this? 13.01.53 Quit stoffel (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 13.02.08 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B49F8A.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.02.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.12.33 Join keyb_gr [0] (~chatzilla@p5080EC96.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.23.19 Quit sasquatch (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13.27.35 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54B67576.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.46.09 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@46.115.20.241) 13.49.59 Join Mowcius [0] (~Mowcius@87.112.142.114) 13.50.17 Quit GeekShadow (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 14.05.40 Quit bug2000 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.05.57 Join rudi_s [0] (~simon@217.172.186.125) 14.06.02 Quit sasquatch (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 14.07.51 Join {phoenix} [0] (~dirk@p5DF2EAAB.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.07.52 Quit {phoenix} (Remote host closed the connection) 14.11.20 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@46.115.22.140) 14.12.19 Join antil33t [0] (~antil33t@124-197-33-15.callplus.net.nz) 14.19.50 # bertrik: did anyone ask him about a real name? 14.20.07 # yes, I did, in the comments to the task 14.20.09 Quit antil33t () 14.20.45 Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.22.44 # hmm 14.31.12 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 14.33.26 # I'll leave it open, if it gets older than 6 months I'll reconsider closing it 14.34.08 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@213.165.85.248) 14.34.09 Quit sideral (Changing host) 14.34.09 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 14.43.22 # setting up cygwin with all the specialities we have now (build cross-compilers, add inputenx, add SDL) is a pain 14.43.33 # especially as there is few documentation 14.43.54 # * Buschel will update the HowTo from his yesterday's and today's experience 14.52.31 # argh.... sdl does not compile 14.53.33 # Rockbox needs HAL. 14.54.05 # anyone actively working on rockbox for creative players? 14.54.12 # I know there's a page on it 15.01.13 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 15.02.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.07.02 # 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Hi. I just started using rockbox on my sansa clip+ today and it works great, thanks for your work. I have one minor issue though (only partly rockbox related), my music filenames contain characters which are illegal on fat32 partitions (like ' or :), is there a unix/linux tool (script or similar) to just remove those characters before copying them to the directory? Thanks. 18.48.24 Join wtachi [0] (~wtachi@cpe-065-190-012-236.nc.res.rr.com) 18.52.06 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 18.52.06 # * Buschel managed to build a rockbox sim :) 18.52.10 # \o/ 18.53.11 # but I needed to re-install cygwin, apply a patch, re-build SDL and make an evil change to one of the cygwin paths 18.53.43 # Windows 7? 18.53.58 # yep 19.00.11 # Btw. is it normal that when changing the volume the number (in dB) is displayed only in the main menu, but not in the while playing screen? 19.02.16 Quit guymann (Quit: beep) 19.02.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.16.23 # i do think using msys+tdm-gcc to build sim is better 19.16.46 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@124.165.21.93.rev.sfr.net) 19.16.46 Quit GeekShadow (Changing host) 19.16.46 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 19.22.03 Quit kugel (Read error: Operation timed out) 19.22.39 # It would be nice if there is a possibility to compile via Visual Studio. ;-) 19.23.56 Nick Mikeb0ok is now known as mystica555_ (~mike@71-33-177-238.hlrn.qwest.net) 19.23.56 DBUG Enqueued KICK mystica555_ 19.24.13 Quit simonlnu (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 19.24.59 Join simonlnu [0] (simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 19.26.41 Quit JoshuaChang (Remote host closed the connection) 19.27.27 Join Horschti [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.29.03 Join ChickeNES [0] (~ChickeNES@128.135.100.102) 19.30.50 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@e178055199.adsl.alicedsl.de) 19.30.50 Quit kugel (Changing host) 19.30.50 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 19.31.38 Quit Horscht (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 19.31.59 Join Guest91561 [0] (stdcall@46.118.215.18) 19.32.33 Quit stdcall (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.37.57 # AlexP: power on issue seems solved! :) 19.42.00 # Buschel: I believe there's a patch on the tracker with which you can build natively under windows 19.42.38 Quit Jerom1 (Quit: Leaving.) 19.48.38 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 19.49.11 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 19.51.01 Join saratoga [0] (9803c6dd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.198.221) 20.12.40 Quit Guest91561 () 20.25.05 Part domonoky 20.40.59 Quit T44 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.41.16 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@f048197002.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.41.35 Quit Horschti (Quit: Verlassend) 20.45.34 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 20.46.39 Quit kugel (Read error: Operation timed out) 20.47.13 Quit Buschel (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 3.6.17/20110420140830]) 20.49.52 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@24.229.139.169.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) 20.50.23 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 20.55.23 # Slasheri: ping 21.02.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.04.41 Quit ReimuHakurei (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 21.09.27 Quit bertrik (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.20.15 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 21.45.07 Join krazykit [0] (~krazykit@99-126-205-52.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) 22.37.52 Quit Zarggg (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.57.42 Quit Stummi (Quit: Bye!) 23.00.55 Quit ChickeNES (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 23.02.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.15.12 Join ChickeNES [0] (~ChickeNES@128.135.100.102) 23.23.11 Quit mystica555 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.23.44 Quit TheLemonMan_ (Quit: Ex-Chat) 23.23.53 Join {phoenix} [0] (~dirk@p5DF2EAAB.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.24.08 Join mystica555 [0] (~Mike@71-33-177-238.hlrn.qwest.net) 23.35.09 Join ReimuHakurei [0] (~reimu@adsl-75-16-226-254.dsl.kntpin.sbcglobal.net) 23.35.44 # <[Saint]> Hmmm...."reboot" doesn't really seem to fit very well on an RaaA target.... 23.36.10 # <[Saint]> I can imagine some people thinking they'd need to reboot the handset when RaaA asks this. 23.38.36 # one of the reasons why Rockbox needs a shutdown entry on Android 23.38.57 # make it a "Rockbox needs to restart. Do you want to restart now" dialog that restarts Rockbox :) 23.40.02 # [Saint]: r29157 fixed the back button issues 23.40.20 # <[Saint]> No, it didn't;) 23.40.34 # on my phone it did 23.40.47 # <[Saint]> "fixed" is over-eager there I'm afraid. 23.40.50 # perhaps one of your dozen patches undoes the fix 23.41.02 # <[Saint]> Nope, it's never worked. 23.41.18 # <[Saint]> on a few select screens, it's just never worked. 23.41.44 # try a patch-less current build please 23.41.46 # it is fixed 23.58.36 # hmm. I'm trying to put some more .so files into the apk. They show up in the apk, but after installation they are gone. What am I doing wrong? 23.58.58 # is there some xml file or the like that needs to mention them?