--- Log for 03.06.111 Server: card.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 day and 22 hours ago 00.01.11 Join sinthetek [0] (~sinthetek@unaffiliated/sinthetek) 00.02.22 Quit mudd1 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.02.47 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 00.05.42 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p5DE4BC2E.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.07.13 Quit [Saint] (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.09.29 Quit sinthetek (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 00.09.43 Join [Saint] [0] (~st.lasciv@124-197-3-117.callplus.net.nz) 00.10.15 Join sinthetek [0] (~sinthetek@unaffiliated/sinthetek) 00.14.37 Quit [Saint] (Client Quit) 00.15.04 Join [Saint] [0] (~st.lasciv@124-197-3-117.callplus.net.nz) 00.15.10 Quit _kain (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 00.15.24 Nick [Saint] is now known as S_a_i_n_t (~st.lasciv@124-197-3-117.callplus.net.nz) 00.15.29 Nick S_a_i_n_t is now known as [Saint] (~st.lasciv@124-197-3-117.callplus.net.nz) 00.16.56 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Vamoose!) 00.18.53 Quit sinthetek (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 00.19.53 Join sinthetek [0] (~sinthetek@unaffiliated/sinthetek) 00.19.54 Join ChickeNES [0] (~ChickeNES@128.135.100.102) 00.20.01 Quit ChickeNES (Remote host closed the connection) 00.22.09 Quit evilnick (Quit: Page closed) 00.33.34 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 00.34.52 Quit n1s (Remote host closed the connection) 00.35.57 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 00.39.11 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 00.41.02 Part toffe82 00.47.11 # * [Saint] wonders if the 480X800 user font (lists, .sbs...everything but the .wps) couldn't stand to be a hair bigger. 00.48.00 # <[Saint]> currently it's at 46pt...I can go to 50pt without making a new font (so there's 48 and 50 to go if it does need to be bigger still) 01.13.03 Quit bertrik (Quit: :tiuQ) 01.20.46 Join ChickeNES [0] (~ChickeNES@128.135.100.102) 01.34.26 Quit efyx (Remote host closed the connection) 01.46.02 Quit liar (Quit: hallowed are the ori!) 01.48.19 Join krazykit [0] (~krazykit@99-126-205-52.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) 01.55.03 # [Saint]: AlexP: Youd' proabbly have to bug kugel for slide actions in the wps, I dont know how to do that 01.55.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.55.26 # [Saint]: also, for the volume popup, a mute button would be nice 02.00.55 # why should I know how to do it? 02.02.32 # you did it in the lists 02.04.42 Quit ChickeNES (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 02.21.09 Quit simonlnu (Quit: brb) 02.23.50 Join simonlnu [0] (simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 02.33.13 Join tempname [0] (generic@194.213.5.251) 02.38.02 Quit tempname (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 03.03.52 Quit mystica555 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 03.06.22 Quit GeekShadow (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 03.08.13 Quit mystica555_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 03.09.59 Join mystica555_ [0] (~mike@71-33-177-238.hlrn.qwest.net) 03.30.22 Join ChickeNES [0] (~ChickeNES@128.135.100.102) 03.52.03 Join kam [0] (~chatzilla@user-0c90t1m.cable.mindspring.com) 03.55.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.02.49 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 04.07.16 Join jhMikeS [0] (jethead71@c-71-205-180-178.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 04.07.16 Quit jhMikeS (Changing host) 04.07.16 Join jhMikeS [0] (jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 04.07.37 Join [Saint] [0] (~st.lasciv@124-197-3-117.callplus.net.nz) 04.21.59 Quit kam (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 3.6.17/20110422070434]) 04.30.18 Quit TheSeven (Disconnected by services) 04.30.27 Join [7] [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.32.04 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.32.05 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.32.09 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.32.11 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.32.14 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.32.22 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.52.55 Quit ChickeNES (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 04.54.26 Join kugel_ [0] (~kugel@e178063084.adsl.alicedsl.de) 04.54.34 Quit kugel_ (Changing host) 04.54.34 Join kugel_ [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 04.57.54 Quit guymann (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 04.58.25 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 05.03.12 Quit Rondom (Read error: Operation timed out) 05.03.51 Quit Galois (Read error: Operation timed out) 05.04.19 Join Galois [0] (djao@efnet-math.org) 05.05.13 Join Rondom [0] (~rondom@2a01:488:66:1000:b24d:4f2f:0:1) 05.13.10 Join Rob2223 [0] (~Miranda@p5DE4B4F4.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.16.20 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 05.18.42 Join ChickeNES [0] (~ChickeNES@128.135.100.102) 05.20.18 Quit mystica555_ (Read error: No route to host) 05.21.14 Join mystica555_ [0] (~mike@71-33-177-238.hlrn.qwest.net) 05.25.36 Quit factor (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 05.33.58 Quit Horschti (Quit: Verlassend) 05.40.20 Quit Galois (Read error: Operation timed out) 05.40.25 Join Galois [0] (djao@efnet-math.org) 05.42.37 # <[Saint]> JdGordon: FOr the volume pop-up, I'm in the process of adding three more touch areas/"buttons" to the pop-up panel. 05.42.57 # <[Saint]> "-" "mute" and "+" 05.43.02 # cool 05.43.45 # <[Saint]> also some form of text that makes it immediately obvious what it's for. "VOLUME" or something equally bland and obvious ;) 05.45.30 # <[Saint]> In a discussion with AlexP, I've decided that the volume icon itself should trigger the volume pop-up panel...and at some stage after that I'll completely change the actions of the right pop-up tab's panel. 05.46.09 # <[Saint]> Something that mimics the left panel, so....Hotkey, Playlist (perhaps, and . 05.46.18 # <[Saint]> (open for suggestion here) 05.48.28 # not sure 05.48.38 # I want hotkey on the sbs more than changes to the wps :) 05.55.01 Join mystica555 [0] (~Mike@71-33-177-238.hlrn.qwest.net) 05.55.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.55.33 Join icarusfactor [0] (~factor@74.197.205.204) 05.56.16 Nick icarusfactor is now known as factor (~factor@74.197.205.204) 06.02.18 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 06.04.32 Quit wtachi (Quit: &) 06.07.09 Join [Saint] [0] (~st.lasciv@124-197-3-117.callplus.net.nz) 06.11.58 Quit [Saint] (Disconnected by services) 06.12.00 Join S_a_i_n_t [0] (~st.lasciv@124-197-3-117.callplus.net.nz) 06.12.14 # JdGordon: I can't figure out where to put it. 06.12.15 Join timccc [0] (~aoeu@112.166.15.141) 06.12.23 # re: Hotkey on the .sbs 06.12.39 # * S_a_i_n_t guesses he'll figure something out. 06.12.44 Nick S_a_i_n_t is now known as [Saint] (~st.lasciv@124-197-3-117.callplus.net.nz) 06.15.10 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.15.59 Quit ChickeNES (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 06.18.47 # [Saint]: plenty of wasted space in the playback control area 06.20.40 Quit froggyman (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 06.21.44 Quit krazykit (Quit: be back shortly) 06.26.30 Join krazykit [0] (~krazykit@99-126-205-52.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) 06.28.14 Quit user890104 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 06.30.12 # [Saint]: also, for some fun, it owuld be nice if you could press the next track area (or AA perhaps?) and have it show a different set of info about the track 06.30.28 # use skin vars for this, each press just advances the screen 06.30.52 Join bieber [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 06.31.53 Join ChickeNES [0] (~ChickeNES@128.135.100.102) 06.34.17 Join froggyman [0] (~seth@unaffiliated/froggyman) 06.41.07 Quit sasquatch (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 06.44.59 Quit froggyman (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 06.49.56 Join icarusfactor [0] (~factor@74.197.205.204) 06.51.06 Nick icarusfactor is now known as factor (~factor@74.197.205.204) 06.58.22 Join froggyman [0] (~seth@unaffiliated/froggyman) 06.59.10 Join user890104 [0] (Venci@venci-notebook-lan.ipv6.6bez10.info) 07.11.22 Join Panthersdly [0] (~4b525adb@giant.haxx.se) 07.12.37 Quit Panthersdly (Client Quit) 07.26.09 # * JdGordon thinks about adding some sort of mapping from a skin variable to a (viewport) label... 07.26.35 Quit timccc (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 07.27.10 # %?vg(x)<%Vd(A)|%Vd(B)|%Vd(C)> is yuck..... %Vd(%vg(x)) is much neater 07.27.42 # even if it has to be %Vd(%?vg(x)) 07.28.05 # * JdGordon thinks the parser would die with that sort of thing though 07.30.56 Join timccc [0] (~aoeu@112.166.15.141) 07.32.39 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@46.115.25.242) 07.32.41 Quit froggyman (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.36.34 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 07.38.10 Quit timccc (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.41.51 Join [Saint] [0] (~st.lasciv@124-197-3-117.callplus.net.nz) 07.42.31 Join d1337r [0] (~d1337r@95-27-174-105.broadband.corbina.ru) 07.43.37 Join timccc [0] (~aoeu@112.166.15.141) 07.44.13 # I'm sorry, but which player would you recommend me to buy if I am totally going to install rockbox on it? 07.46.30 Join froggyman [0] (~seth@unaffiliated/froggyman) 07.51.39 # Looks like the Sansa Fuze will be a nice one, isn't it? 07.55.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.40.36 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.47.30 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 08.47.30 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 08.47.30 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 08.47.51 # [Saint]: u there? 08.49.40 Quit mystica555_ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 08.51.38 Join mystica555_ [0] (~mike@71-33-177-238.hlrn.qwest.net) 09.02.44 # does anyone know why [Saint]'s new theme appears to warrant a new build of rockbox too? Or is that just for people who can't build their own? 09.03.30 # GodEater: He's also shoved a load of patches in there 09.03.38 # that do what? 09.03.42 # Any new svn on its own should be fine for the theme though 09.03.48 # Other unrelated stuff 09.04.18 # He should split them IMO, but I just grabbed the theme and built current SVN which works fine 09.04.30 # ah- the forum thread lists the patches 09.04.37 # and you're right - he SHOULD seperate them 09.08.34 Quit d1337r (Quit: Lost terminal) 09.11.13 Join n1s [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/n1s) 09.19.43 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 09.28.55 # <[Saint]> GodEater: And yes, each build I have put is is due to particular changes in svn that are required for the theme to work. 09.29.13 # <[Saint]> Unless you have a build that is at least that revision or higher, it won't work. 09.30.10 # <[Saint]> what're you talking about I *should* split them also....?!? 09.30.23 # <[Saint]> If you want just the theme, it's there, on the same thread. 09.34.39 Join swilde [0] (~wilde@aktaia.intevation.org) 09.35.43 Join mem_ [0] (~mem@mem-irc.netnod.se) 09.37.51 # <[Saint]> If it's regarding the patches specifically, at least 4 of them I class as "essential" for the RaaA port...the others are just my personal preference, I just put the build up there because it's an all inclusive build with the theme included, and a voicefile, mostly aimed at people who can't build for themselves/those relying on the builds kugel_ puts up from time to time on his wiki page. 09.48.03 Join efyx [0] (~efyx@lap34-1-82-225-185-146.fbx.proxad.net) 09.54.03 Join HaimN [0] (~quassel@95.86.107.134) 09.55.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.59.55 # Hi, there is some way to view wikipedia in rockbox except the patch wikiviewer (http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4755?type=4) ? 10.00.27 # <[Saint]> HaimN: No. 10.00.37 # If you mean a practical way, no 10.00.57 # <[Saint]> Well, yeah...there is that ;) 10.01.00 # You could export it all to text files, but that's not going to be very useful 10.01.52 # <[Saint]> bluebrother: Just so you know, based from your comment about it and your screenshots, I've slightly increased the text size of the userfont (lists, menus, everything but the .wps) and moved the position of the UI viewport up ~20 pix or so. 10.02.00 # <[Saint]> you were right, it was too low. 10.03.07 Join otih [0] (~otih@CAcert/Assurer/otih) 10.05.44 # ok, thanks! 10.08.49 # n1s: Did you see that core is built with -Os on coldfire? 10.09.07 # amiconn: yes i know 10.09.28 # * amiconn didn't know 10.09.46 # we discussed it quite a bit when we switched compilers 10.10.01 # Or maybe I just don't remember 10.11.10 # i think we decided to leave it like this if it didn't cause any problems 10.11.40 # It saves even more than on arm, which is interesting 10.12.02 # it is hard to bench differences in the core though, since most of the performance critical stuff is asm anyway 10.13.10 # amiconn: if you are looking on the speex thing, that's probably because it was built with -O2 on non arm before, and the -Os arms use thumb 10.13.47 # well, the voice codec, the regular speex codec was not changed 10.13.49 # (somewhat related) I think it might be a good idea to upgrade the SH gcc 10.14.00 # Needs testing, of course 10.14.47 # yeah, probably 10.15.18 # Atm it uses the oldest gcc version of all archs 10.15.43 # Mips is at 4.1.x though, which is nearly as old 10.16.09 # The problem with mips is that we don 10.16.12 # Does mips get any testing these days? 10.16.17 # t really have an active developer 10.17.04 # what targets run mips? 10.17.09 # onda 10.18.48 Quit otih (Remote host closed the connection) 10.19.16 Join mudd1 [0] (~cmertes@ip-78-94-202-227.unitymediagroup.de) 10.19.23 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 10.21.09 Join otih [0] (~otih@befiit.befiit.de) 10.21.09 Quit otih (Changing host) 10.21.09 Join otih [0] (~otih@CAcert/Assurer/otih) 10.25.39 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4CAF7.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.26.01 # Hi *, I just got an used Sansa e200 v2, now I want to install rockbox but I cant find "USB-mode" in the seetings menu! :( 10.30.10 # I know that on the e200v1, some firmware versions didn't have that option. No idea about the v2 though 10.30.54 # gevaerts: and is there anything one can do in that case? 10.31.03 # I think my sansa clip+ goes into MSC mode when you hold the center button, maybe there's something similar for e200v2 too 10.31.17 # swilde: well, install a different version would work 10.31.35 # (hold center while booting by plugging the USB cable in) 10.33.11 # bertrik: no luck, still "Sansa e200v2 series in MTP mode found!" 10.33.35 # Apparently there's another trick for e200v2, see our wiki page http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaE200v2 10.33.46 # strange enough, the manual describes the USB mode setting... 10.35.59 # der42omyk needs banning on the forum 10.36.17 # bertrik: I'm trying.. 10.36.30 # sounda like a bug in the manual then 10.37.24 # mc2739: done 10.37.43 Quit user890104 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10.37.51 Join user890104 [0] (Venci@venci-notebook-lan.ipv6.6bez10.info) 10.47.13 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 11.00.00 # Heureka! Rockbox is up and running! 11.01.51 Quit n1s (Remote host closed the connection) 11.10.48 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 11.11.17 # Hi, anyone know the code of the patch, wikiviewer? I want to add support for RTL languages ​​(right alignment instead of left alignment) and I do not know where to find the part that displays the text in the player, and change the alignment to right. 11.11.26 # this patch: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/4755 11.12.59 Quit ChickeNES (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 11.23.42 Quit HaimN (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 11.24.19 Join HaimN [0] (~quassel@95.86.107.134) 11.25.55 # HaimN: I don't think many people here know that particular code 11.29.08 Nick kugel_ is now known as kugelp (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 11.48.46 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 11.50.03 Quit sasquatch (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 11.50.38 Join Stummi [0] (~Stummi@rockbox/developer/Stummi) 11.50.53 Quit user890104 (Remote host closed the connection) 11.51.01 Join user890104 [0] (Venci@venci-notebook-lan.ipv6.6bez10.info) 11.52.10 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@46.115.25.242) 11.52.16 Quit HaimN (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 11.52.56 Join HaimN [0] (~quassel@95.86.107.134) 11.52.58 Join Peddy [0] (~apc@unaffiliated/peddy) 11.53.31 # I'm trying to reconnect the scroll wheel of my Sansa Fuze, and it's very difficult to get all buttons working. Does anyone have advice? 11.54.08 Quit Buganini (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 11.55.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.56.15 # <[Saint]> Use some long-nosed, insulated tweezers to re-insert the ribon into the ZIF adapter. 11.56.31 # <[Saint]> *ribbon 11.57.23 Quit HaimN (Client Quit) 11.57.24 # I can actually get the ribbon all the way into the adapter, the scroll wheel lights turn on (and flicker sometimes), but the buttons don't work :/ 11.57.41 # <[Saint]> (whilst making sure that the (brown or black, can be both) tab on the ZIF if flipped up.) 11.58.00 Join HaimN [0] (~quassel@95.86.107.134) 11.58.05 # <[Saint]> Then make sure that you close the latch on the ZIF with the ribbon firmly inserted all the way before closing the case up. 11.58.18 # <[Saint]> make sure you test that all buttons are working before you close it up. 11.59.03 # <[Saint]> If, after this, and you're *sure* you have the ribbon seated in the ZIF correctly, it's possible that you may have damaged the ribbon cable while opening the device. 11.59.50 # I actually have 3 scroll wheels, none of them are working :/ 11.59.56 # I hope the device itself isn't damaged 12.00.08 # I'll play around more with tweezers. Yesterday it worked fine 12.00.51 # <[Saint]> There really is a very fine margin to seat the ribbon correctly. 12.01.12 # are the chances that I broke the ZIF adapter itself small? I mean the contacts inside the adapter 12.01.27 # <[Saint]> the Fuze('es) are bastards to get back togetehr, there's really not a lot of space to play with when getting the front face back on. 12.02.03 # I actually separated the spare scroll wheels from their faces 12.02.09 # <[Saint]> The chances you broke the adapter are fairly small, yes, but you may have dislodged one of its contacts from the mainboard. 12.02.26 # <[Saint]> *s/one/one or more/ 12.02.31 # >.> I'll do a continuity check if my multimeter can fit 12.04.33 # nope, it's too clunky. I'll try the other wheels. V1 and V2 wheels are compatible, right? 12.05.24 # <[Saint]> It's best to just try and make sure that the ZIP latch is flipped right up, insert the ribbon into the ZIF as far as it can go with some insulated tweezers, then flip the ZIF latch all the way down as far as it can go with a small screwdriver or something while still applying slight pressure in the direction of insertion on the ribbon. 12.05.38 # <[Saint]> as for whather V1/2 wheels are compatible...no idea. 12.05.45 # <[Saint]> *whether 12.06.34 # woo, the latch/adapter on the mainboard isn't broken! got it working with a spare wheel 12.06.50 # mm, I'll try pushing the latch down further 12.08.17 # thanks for your help, btw >.> it can get very frustrating 12.08.37 # i have a whole pile of units with broken LCD latches 12.08.56 # <[Saint]> I'm a patient man, with steady hands and a nice set of "spare hands" with a magnifying glass and a nice range of precision tools at my disposal...and it took me a good hour or so to get my clickwheel working properly on my Fuze after I removed a busted LCD from it ;) 12.09.23 # <[Saint]> I know how much of a royal PITA this is, so I don't mind helping ;D 12.09.28 Quit HaimN (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 12.10.05 Join HaimN [0] (~quassel@95.86.107.134) 12.10.24 # ;D well, if you ever need a spare LCD let me know, because I have some just lying around. Ooh, i'll grab my spare hands! what's the risk in using uninsulated tweezers? 12.11.09 # scroll wheel working... still not buttons :/ 12.11.14 # no* 12.16.46 # how easy is it to scratch the contacts off the ribbon cable? O: 12.16.58 # <[Saint]> Funnily enough...I do need a spare LCD... 12.17.18 # hahaha, for shipping, it's yours. 12.17.29 # <[Saint]> re: scratching the contacts off the ribbon, no idea sorry. 12.18.01 # <[Saint]> if you PM me your email address I'll email you at some stage regarding the LCD. 12.19.08 # wow, upon opening your PM window I saw your hostname - you're in New Zealand too? 12.19.38 # <[Saint]> Yep....creepy ;) 12.19.42 # <[Saint]> Christchurch. 12.19.43 # that makes shipping a lot cheaper ;) 12.19.52 # Auckland :3 12.20.05 # damn, so you can't come over to help me with my scroll wheel 12.20.16 # yeah he can, it's just a long walk is all ;) 12.20.25 # and a swim 12.20.38 # I've always assumed that since he's saintly he can walk on water 12.20.45 # I could be wrong of course 12.21.00 # <[Saint]> Hah! It's a name, not my nature ;) 12.21.14 # True. Your nature is more demonic 12.21.25 # says godeater 12.21.59 # * GodEater has given up explaining his nick origin 12.22.11 # * Peddy already knows 12.22.41 # * Peddy 's name is quite self-explanatory 12.22.53 # it is? 12.23.18 # <[Saint]> Back to the scrollwheel...I really don't have a heck of a lot more advice than "It's a real sonnoffabitch to get that teeny, tiny, little ribbon seated in the ZIF...and they give you approximately 1cm of ribbon to play with, which only makes matters worse" 12.23.27 # * [Saint] hopes it isn't... 12.23.56 # well, you've given me hope 12.24.05 # and that's all I need. or something 12.24.14 # do they listen to brostep in christchurch too? 12.24.29 # * GodEater recalls a "Tim nice but dim" sketch at a party. Tim : "So what do you do?", Person "I'm a paedeatrician.", Tim: "Well I can't say I approve, but I admire your honesty" 12.25.01 # that is funny 12.25.04 # is it like PedoEater? 12.25.13 # paedeatricians eat paedophiles 12.25.40 # * [Saint] mumbles something about a topic... ;) 12.26.14 # oh god it's so loose 12.26.17 # even when i push it in harder 12.26.22 # i think i need to apply more paste 12.26.33 # * GodEater backs hurriedly away from the conversation 12.26.52 # the latch won't tighten ;_; 12.27.06 # the cable isn't actually staying rigid 12.27.06 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 12.27.28 # <[Saint]> "paste"? 12.27.43 # solder paste 12.28.13 # <[Saint]> if you're applying any form of conductive grease....that's *probably* the problem. If it's non-cunductive, that could well be the problem too. 12.28.27 # I re-did the headphone jack, which is why I opened it in the first place 12.28.39 # I'm keeping the grease away from the other slit thing 12.29.11 # <[Saint]> AH, right...different part of the player. I was thinking "paste in the ZIF socket for the wheel?!? wtf!?!" ;) 12.29.41 # haha, I'm silly but not to that extent! 12.29.52 # I think I'm going to spend the whole night fiddling with it, I have to have my things work >.> 12.29.59 # even though I have another perfectly good fuze 12.33.02 Quit avacore (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 12.35.33 Join avacore [0] (~avacore@1008ds1-rdo.0.fullrate.dk) 12.40.05 Quit HaimN (Remote host closed the connection) 12.41.49 Join latenite [0] (~latenite@i59F72904.versanet.de) 12.44.39 # Hi folks, I have a sansa clip with rockbox on it. When QUICKLY changing the headphone (on a mixer in 0.1sec) the player RECOGNIZES the change of OHM on the headphonejack and: STOPS PLAYING for like 0.4sec. Can I make it stop doingt that playback pause.??? 12.56.26 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust703.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 13.10.33 # latenite, does it happen in the official firmware too? 13.14.25 # No clue since I dont have it on anymore... 13.14.29 # :/ 13.14.46 # is there a feature to turn of "headphone unplug detect" ? 13.15.03 # latenite, you can boot the original firmware by holding down left button (<<) and then pressing power 13.15.16 # ok let me test... 13.15.34 # <[Saint]> latenite: Installing Rockbox doesn't remove the original firmware, fwiw. 13.15.59 # <[Saint]> (the manual clearly describes dual-booting) 13.17.33 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 13.17.33 # tested it..it stops playing for 0.5sec on both firmwares 13.17.59 # <[Saint]> I suspect it's a HW issue then, and totally unavoidable. 13.18.01 # so is it a hardware issue then? 13.18.33 # well If it wasn't a hardware issue....one might get the software to NOT pause playing 13.19.00 # <[Saint]> There's pretty clear evedence that it is HW, though. 13.19.29 # <[Saint]> if two different firmwares with completely different code run into the exact same issue...it's fairly safe to call it a HW issue. 13.19.35 # saratoga says there is no headphone detection on the Clip+ 13.20.49 # like what is evidenc? Could it not also be a featuer of the software?? 13.21.41 # <[Saint]> the evidence is that you said it behaved the exact same way in both firmwares...two firmwares that are completely different and seperate from oneanother. 13.22.03 # it doesn't really sound like a feature to me 13.22.16 # I mean, who would want that behaviour 13.22.30 # <[Saint]> I'd find it hard to believe that it would be intentionally added, and if it *could* be worked around...it probably would've been. 13.22.32 Quit Stummi (Quit: Bye!) 13.22.58 # <[Saint]> in the case of both the OF and RB...it doesn't sound like something you'd *want* to happen. 13.23.43 # latenite, there's no "pause on headphone removal" setting in rockbox for that player, is there? 13.27.38 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 13.28.07 # I think the HW has a feature to mute the headphones for some time if it detects a short circuit 13.29.25 Part Peddy ("Leaving") 13.29.55 # <[Saint]> Peddy: No, there's no way for ROckbox to detect that the headphones have been plugged/unplugged for that target. 13.30.01 # <[Saint]> *Rockbox too 13.30.06 Join antil33t [0] (~antil33t@124-197-33-15.callplus.net.nz) 13.30.10 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust703.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 13.30.46 # we can detect one of the two events (either plug, or unplug), I don't remember which one exactly 13.31.07 # <[Saint]> Oh? Hmmm. 13.31.19 # <[Saint]> "HAVE_HEADPHONE_DETECT isn't defined for it. 13.32.58 # <[Saint]> *HAVE_HEADPHONE_DETECTION, too 13.35.48 # The datasheet says the over-current mute time is configureable between 0 ms and 512 ms, but I can't find the specific bit for this. 13.37.21 # bertrik, ohh please that would be too cool 13.37.46 # see I have this tool http://pokketmixer.com/ 13.38.15 # and when switching "listen button" from left to right... 13.38.40 # the sansa clip detects that and stops playinf for 0.5 sec 13.39.15 # so the audiance can can't hear music for a short time. Which is REALY bad for DJing 13.39.47 # bertrik, Is there a way to cut over-current mute to 0ms? 13.39.58 # latenite, I can't find it in the data sheet 13.40.24 # the cause of this problem seems to be the mixer that causes an over-current for a short time 13.41.42 # bertrik, which mixer do you mean? sorry I am not that of a pro :) 13.41.55 # the external mixer 13.42.11 # whatever you connect to the headphone output of the clip 13.44.42 # so in "my words" my pokketmixer creates voltage that makes my sansaclip mute (as a lets call it safety measure) 13.44.48 # like that??? 13.46.03 # it could be something like that, or perhaps the act of plugging the headphones plug in causes a very short over-current 13.46.35 # BUT this 0.5s playback pause can also be produced ONLY by quickly unpluging and repluging headphones.....THEN the sound also stops for 0.5sec 13.47.15 # so is there a way to make the clip "ignore" the over-current? 13.48.09 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 13.48.54 # no, I don't think so as far as I can see in the data sheet 13.49.27 # can you link me the datasheet please ? 13.51.04 Join slooopy [0] (~sloo@95-90-30-123-dynip.superkabel.de) 13.51.18 Quit mudd1 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13.52.41 Nick kugelp is now known as kugel (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 13.54.07 # bertrik, I cant find it...what datasheet do you mean? 13.55.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.57.42 Quit slooopy (Quit: Verlassend) 13.59.38 Quit [Saint] (Quit: Imagination is for turbo-nerds who can't handle how kick-butt reality is. 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19.40.08 # beside Android 19.44.10 Join saratoga [0] (9803c6dd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.198.221) 19.44.13 Join pixelma_ [0] (~pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 19.44.39 Quit sasquatch (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.45.13 Join b1uebrother [0] (~dom@74.125.57.50) 19.46.35 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@46.115.23.226) 19.46.52 # its because i am preparing a port to a sony WQVGA device 19.47.46 # Well, that probably means a sony WQVGA device will be supported soon :) 19.50.02 Join jhMikeS [0] (jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 19.50.40 Quit bertrik (Read error: Connection timed out) 19.51.06 Join user890104 [0] (Venci@venci-notebook-lan.ipv6.6bez10.info) 19.51.14 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 19.51.14 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 19.51.14 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 19.51.53 # you have no themes for 400 x 240 pixels 19.53.19 # you'd have to make your own 19.53.49 # getting a theme is probably one of your smallest problems for a new port 19.53.52 # is that easy to learn? 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20.49.08 # B4gder: ^^^ 20.49.48 Quit latenite (Quit: Ex-Chat) 20.50.24 # someone put pizza on the front page! 21.05.45 Join stripwax [0] (~androirc@rockbox/developer/stripwax) 21.05.51 # hello. 21.05.59 # i'm downstairs.... 21.06.20 Quit evilnick (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 21.06.42 # GodEater, ping! 21.10.31 Quit stripwax (Quit: AndroIRC) 21.18.35 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 21.18.59 Join evilnick_ [0] (~evilnick@ool-18bee3a9.dyn.optonline.net) 21.18.59 Quit evilnick (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.18.59 Nick evilnick_ is now known as evilnick (~evilnick@ool-18bee3a9.dyn.optonline.net) 21.19.31 Quit evilnick (Changing host) 21.19.31 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 21.23.44 # stripwax: go away, or we shall taunt you a second time! 21.26.05 Join Szeraax [0] (~46721264@giant.haxx.se) 21.26.38 Join mamarley [0] (~quassel@cpe-174-098-240-034.triad.res.rr.com) 21.26.54 Quit mamarley (Client Quit) 21.27.13 Join mamarley [0] (~quassel@cpe-174-098-240-034.triad.res.rr.com) 21.27.32 Quit mamarley (Remote host closed the connection) 21.28.40 Quit evilnick (Read error: No route to host) 21.32.22 # So I'm trying to build my own Rockbox, and have been going through the instructions on the website, but am somewhat lost on what to do next. I have successfully installed and configured Cygwin, but am unsure if my next step is to do something with cross-compilers, or get the source for rockbox. 21.33.04 # The cross-compilers guide page says to run the rockboxdev.sh out of the tools dir, which I assume to mean that I need to get the src first? 21.33.17 # Szeraax: correct 21.34.00 # so I just ran "$ svn co svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk rockbox" a few moments ago (off the HowtoCompile page) 21.34.06 # Is that my proper course to follow? 21.36.07 # saratoga: ping 21.36.28 # wtachi: pong 21.36.31 # how goes it? 21.36.43 # four cleanup patches in FS 21.37.12 # I've realized working on more refactoring isn't going to contribute much to my project 21.37.54 Quit Strife89 (Quit: I'd prefer to teleport out, but they haven't fixed that yet.) 21.38.56 # regarding the libcook changes, they look ok to me, but you might want to ping stripwax 21.39.50 Join ChickeNES [0] (~ChickeNES@128.135.100.102) 21.40.07 # stripwax: ping 21.40.31 # saratoga: so, the next step is to get a library and test program compiled 21.40.37 # sounds good 21.40.43 # after my overdue weekly update 21.40.49 # the clean up so far looks good, and if we have time later we can always do more 21.41.53 # have you looked at FS#10243 ? 21.41.54 Quit Szeraax (Quit: CGI:IRC) 21.41.55 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10243 3Codec executor (patches, unconfirmed) 21.42.02 Join Szeraax [0] (~46721264@giant.haxx.se) 21.42.14 # its a very simple and not quite working attempt to run the codecs outside of rockbox 21.42.57 Quit Szeraax (Client Quit) 21.43.09 Join Szeraax [0] (~46721264@giant.haxx.se) 21.44.35 # B4gder: So do I need to do anything with the cross compilers page? Such as run that one config script once I have all the src, or do I just follow along with the HorToCompile guide? 21.44.53 # (rockboxdev.sh ) 21.46.06 # did you see this: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/DevelopmentGuide 21.47.21 # basically though rockboxdev.sh is part of the source, so you'll need to get it first, (unless you use something like vmware that comes with teh compilers already installed) 21.47.31 # wtachi: still there? 21.47.36 # saratoga: yes 21.47.41 # saratoga: That one has been most helpful, ...AND it seems under closer inspection, that yes, I should do ahead and do the rockboxdev.sh after I get the src 21.48.00 # Hehe, <--Dumb. 21.48.23 # saratoga: that's going to help, thanks 21.48.30 # wtachi: so looking at that old code, its probably not too hard to get the codecs to compile out side of rockbox (ignoring things like metadata, having an api, etc) 21.48.45 # so thats probably a good first step (and a very useful one) 21.49.15 # i would start by getting each codec to decode one of our test files to wav and verifying that the output is correct 21.49.26 # at least for the major codecs, i dont expect you to hunt down every last format to test 21.50.15 # saratoga: actually, I already did that for all but smaf and wmapro :p 21.50.26 # oh nice 21.50.32 # whats different about WMApro? 21.51.04 # ffmpeg doesn't have an encoder for it, and I haven't tried on Windows yet 21.51.41 # we've got test files: http://download.rockbox.org/test_files/wmapro_141k.wma 21.52.19 # (ideally you shouldn't have to encode anything although we might be missing some things) 21.53.06 # I just wanted to find encoders, and use a more pleasant song 21.53.12 # haha 21.53.18 # yeah i really hate that song 21.53.24 # listened to it so many times over the years 21.53.43 # now i tend to check the output by comparing to PCM whenever possible 21.55.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.57.09 Quit Stummi (Quit: Bye!) 22.27.09 Join keyb_gr [0] (~chatzilla@p5080B0B4.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.40.32 Quit Szeraax (Quit: CGI:IRC) 22.40.41 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." - Benjamin Disraeli) 22.49.03 Join keyb_gr_ [0] (~chatzilla@p5080CB6F.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.52.11 Quit keyb_gr (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 22.52.24 Nick keyb_gr_ is now known as keyb_gr (~chatzilla@p5080CB6F.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.53.14 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54A3BC7D.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.04.28 Quit user890104 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.05.40 Join user890104 [0] (Venci@venci-notebook-lan.ipv6.6bez10.info) 23.09.50 Quit quem (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.14.02 Quit froggyman (Quit: Ex-Chat) 23.19.04 Join ricemark20 [0] (~mark@99-20-182-188.lightspeed.elgnil.sbcglobal.net) 23.21.47 Quit Buschel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.37.32 Quit user890104 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.40.37 Quit balintx (Remote host closed the connection) 23.40.55 Join balintx [0] (~quassel@szerver1.gulyasp-koll.sulinet.hu) 23.44.11 # I am taking the forums down temporarily... 23.44.54 Quit ricemark20 (Quit: Leaving) 23.47.09 Join user890104 [0] (Venci@venci-notebook-lan.ipv6.6bez10.info) 23.55.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"