--- Log for 06.06.111 Server: card.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 4 days and 22 hours ago 00.00.01 # yay i found my bug 00.08.55 Quit bertrik (Quit: :tiuQ) 00.20.21 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 00.22.59 Nick kramer3d is now known as d3remark (~kramer@unaffiliated/kramer3d) 00.34.06 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 00.34.25 # n1s: stripwax was there in Friday IIR/UC 00.35.19 # pixelma: thanks, i managed to answer one of my questions to him myself 00.36.01 # the other one was basically if he plans to do anything with FS#10071 or if it should be closed 00.36.02 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10071 3Trying out Tremolo optimisations for tremor on ARM (patches, unconfirmed) 00.39.31 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@f049166006.adsl.alicedsl.de) 00.41.27 # <[Saint]> GodEater: ping? 00.42.27 # <[Saint]> (since you don't like the DroidSans/-Bold font in particular...is it ok/fair for me to task you with finding a (or a couple of) .ttf fonts you *do* like?) 00.43.03 Quit Topy44 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 00.43.10 # <[Saint]> the better the character support...the...better ;) 00.44.10 # * [Saint] wonders if others have a suggestion on this. 00.44.31 # <[Saint]> AlexP: kugel: ^? 00.45.38 Join Scromple [0] (~Simon@115-64-195-104.tpgi.com.au) 00.46.04 # <[Saint]> I quite like DejaVa Sans, and Ubuntu fonts myself. 00.46.46 Join Scromple_ [0] (~Simon@115-64-195-104.tpgi.com.au) 00.48.24 # <[Saint]> bluebrother: what about yourself...any font preferences that say "cabbie/RaaA" to you? 00.49.38 # <[Saint]> something where licensing isn't a problem, obviously...I don't have millions of bucks to spend on fonts ;) 00.49.55 Quit Scromple (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.51.36 Join Scr0mple [0] (~Simon@115-64-195-104.tpgi.com.au) 00.53.51 Quit Scromple_ (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 00.55.34 # <[Saint]> by way of design and conditionals...I no longer have to do any fancy blocking of the popups to prevent one opening on top of the other. I _think_. 00.56.40 # <[Saint]> It *could* still happen that one could open the volume popup overtop of the context/filebrowser/quickscreen popup...but I would assume that's not *too* much of a problem as it might even be wanted. 00.59.05 Join antil33t [0] (~antil33t@124-197-33-15.callplus.net.nz) 00.59.27 # <[Saint]> (you might want to change the volume before the other popup has timed out perhaps...? bah, dunno. I might have to come up with a way to block this from happening if it gets annoying. It's not possible to do the reverse anymore and open the files popup overtop of the volume popup and have them both dissappear until they've timed out) 00.59.28 Join simonlnu [0] (simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 01.01.23 Quit simonlnu (Client Quit) 01.06.51 Quit bluebrother (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 01.14.19 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@f053152082.adsl.alicedsl.de) 01.14.30 Quit bluebrother (Changing host) 01.14.30 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 01.15.27 Quit n1s (Remote host closed the connection) 01.15.40 Quit Zarggg_ (Quit: Zarggg_) 01.15.49 # [Saint]: I don't have any special problems with DroidSans. The spacing is bad but I guess this related to the convttf cinversion 01.16.05 # * [Saint] nods. 01.16.16 # other from that I like the DejaVu font famuly a lot 01.17.08 # <[Saint]> I might swing in that direction then, and yeah...you're correct, there was no option to force fixed width numerals in convttf when I converted the fonts originally. 01.17.42 # so as long as the spacing issue is fixed and it has a license that allows us to redistribute it I don't mind using DroidSans 01.17.50 # <[Saint]> also, it didn't seem to respect a few params in its earlier days, so font height and char spacing was a bit of a gamble. 01.18.15 # though I think using DejaVu would be nice 01.19.03 # <[Saint]> GodEater has some form of aversion to the DroidSans family...and I'm in "keep everyone happy" mode. 01.19.47 # <[Saint]> So, I'll give DejaVu a try....I might also make an Ubuntu test-font too to see how it looks. 01.20.02 # then try DejaVu :) 01.21.11 # <[Saint]> I've also dropped the tabs as well...the popups are still there, but I figured out a better (?) way of launching them, whilst cutting back on doubled-up touch areas. 01.21.45 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@24.229.139.169.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) 01.21.52 # <[Saint]> (there was some concern at the tabs making people attempt to "swipe" the screen...so, removing them fixes this I guess ;)) 01.22.54 # <[Saint]> the volume icon launches the volume pop-up/mute, and the current track info launches the filebrowser/context menu/quickscreen pop-up. 01.26.14 Quit keyb_gr (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 01.31.59 Join simonlnu [0] (~simon@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 01.34.56 Quit GeekShadow (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 01.52.37 # <[Saint]> Ok...right, I just need to convert the font (I'll do both Ubuntu and DejaVu and probably put in a .cfg to switch between the two easily for reference) and then I'll put up new links on my theme's thread for the scrutiny of those interested. 01.53.01 # <[Saint]> ...I might not get time to do the font until I get home, though. 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I mean, any betas, or "unstable" available? 08.20.01 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.20.48 # webguest_ru: freemyipod.org 08.27.23 Quit Buschel (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86.1 [Firefox 3.6.17/20110420140830]) 08.29.12 Quit CaptainKewl (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 08.35.41 Quit Rob2222 (Quit: Rob2222) 08.36.02 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FFF3D25.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.37.33 Join factor [0] (~factor@74.197.205.204) 08.43.25 Quit wtachi (Quit: &) 08.49.01 # timccc thnks!! 08.51.28 Quit webguest_ru (Quit: CGI:IRC) 08.56.03 Join ReimuHakurei_ [0] (~reimu@74.112.212.15) 08.58.04 Quit ReimuHakurei (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 09.01.15 Quit eGen_ (Quit: ... gettin' screew my wife ....) 09.06.35 Join eGen_ [0] (generat0r@gate.mmdecin.cz) 09.11.52 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.12.55 Quit balintx (Remote host closed the connection) 09.13.11 Join balintx [0] (~quassel@szerver1.gulyasp-koll.sulinet.hu) 09.21.12 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lem0n@ppp-233-20.26-151.libero.it) 09.21.34 Join Buganini_ [0] (~buganini@2001:288:c237:0:dead:beef:cafe:babe) 09.24.51 Join petur [0] (5bdc888b@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.27.12 Nick Buganini_ is now known as Buganini (~buganini@2001:288:c237:0:dead:beef:cafe:babe) 09.31.29 # <[Saint]> JdGordon: Yep. 09.31.48 # and replace them with what? 09.31.56 # * JdGordon tihnks they look good and people trying to swipe are idiots :D 09.32.13 # <[Saint]> as per mailing list discussion, apparently th use case doesn't match the expected behaviour. 09.32.57 # <[Saint]> I haven't gotten rip of them completely...I mean, I still have that theme floating around. I'm just now trying to work on an alternative version. 09.33.41 # <[Saint]> I need to find better/the right magic for the skin vars to block both popups from opening at the same time. 09.34.01 # that would be my "best practices" email i'm working on 09.34.21 # <[Saint]> "best practices"? 09.34.28 # http://pastebin.com/dhA6mr78 09.34.42 # * JdGordon back in 30 09.34.56 # * [Saint] nods 09.36.05 # * [Saint] *still* doesn't see the issue with single letter identifiers. 09.37.31 # <[Saint]> the only reason I need "word based" identifiers would be if I happened to need 52+ identifiers. 09.38.41 Quit Scromple (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.39.16 Quit [Saint] (Quit: Imagination is for turbo-nerds who can't handle how kick-butt reality is. I'm a kick-butt reality master! I would rather die, than be imaginative. I mean that.) 09.41.17 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@124-197-3-117.callplus.net.nz) 09.54.39 Join keyb_gr [0] (~chatzilla@p5080D47C.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.55.24 Join n1s [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/n1s) 09.56.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.57.57 Join sfranky [0] (~sfranky@athedsl-356681.home.otenet.gr) 09.59.13 # hi everyone! 09.59.34 # is anyone watching? 10.00.12 # there are lots of people in here, do you have a question? 10.00.21 # i would seriously appreciate some help... i can't install rockbox on an ipod nano 2g, i have tried everything 10.00.26 Join efyx [0] (~efyx@lap34-1-82-225-185-146.fbx.proxad.net) 10.00.49 # I install it, and then it freezes after 1-2 sec 10.01.28 # I have formatted it, restored it, uninstalled the bootloader and reinstalled it, but it's always the same.. one or two times I even saw garbled graphics 10.01.59 # so, after installing the bootloader the ipod freezes? 10.02.23 # after completing the whole installation, and unplugging it from usb, it loads, and then freezes 10.02.37 # I see the main menu, I scroll up and down a bit and then boom 10.02.52 # if you then reset it, what happens? 10.03.00 # there's one thing i don't get... I read in the website that I m supposed to encrypt rockbox.ipod into rockbox.ipodx from *within* the ipod... I never have the chance to do it 10.03.02 # sounds like you *can* install it, just that it doesn't like working much. 10.03.02 # the same 10.03.18 # yes, I mean I can't have a working installation 10.03.33 # any ideas? 10.03.37 # ah sorry 10.03.43 # sfranky: you shouldn't need to encrypt anything unless you compiled your own bootloader 10.04.00 # some times it says "undefined instruction at <00000000> , where that could be anything reallly 10.04.06 # Ah, no I didn't 10.04.07 # sfranky: it works fine in the Original Firmware? 10.04.10 # yes 10.04.43 # today I used itunes' restore function 10.05.12 # and I got a new set of errors at the end of rockbox's installation (after reboot), but it soon started doing the exact same things again after 1-2 resetes 10.05.13 # i'd recommend asking TheSeven, he's the main guy for nano2g 10.05.50 # I don't think he's really here now though.. 10.06.05 # are you doing the installation with rbutil or manually? 10.06.11 # rbutil 10.06.19 # that's the way IRC works sadly - we can't all be here all the time 10.06.21 # I tried installing the bootloader with ipodpatcher 10.06.26 # yes i know 10.06.41 # also, rbutil always says I already have the bootloader installed 10.06.49 # even if I restore the ipod to the factory defaults 10.06.59 # though nothing shows up in the info tab 10.07.28 # IIRC itunes restore doesn't remove the bootloader 10.07.33 # oops 10.07.54 # didn't know that... anyway I tried with ipodpatcher and it seemed to work, but I still get the same message from rbutil 10.08.22 # hmm, strange 10.08.24 # and the first error I got when fresh installing today was stack underflow viewport manager something 10.08.31 # but that never came up again 10.09.54 # I hate the ipod UI, I was given one second had as a gift, and I m trying to make it look like my old iriver h140 :( 10.10.35 # getting different errors like this indicates some corruuption IMO, so there could be something about the hw in your ipod that differs slightly from the ones that have been tested that we don't handle correctly somehow 10.10.54 # ok, sounds reasonable 10.11.13 # is there anything else i can try? 10.11.42 # nothing that comes to mind except asking TheSeven 10.11.56 # but he's not available... 10.12.01 # i ll try another time then 10.12.10 # thanks very much n1s! 10.12.23 # no problem, i hope you get it working 10.12.35 # me too!! i love my rockbox 10.14.08 # byebye 10.14.10 Part sfranky 10.15.19 Join sfranky [0] (~sfranky@athedsl-356681.home.otenet.gr) 10.15.38 # n1s: sorry, one last thing 10.15.57 # isn't the rockbox.ipod in the .rockbox dir supposed to be rockbox.ipodx?? 10.16.49 # no 10.17.25 # ok so this is also true only for the custom bootloader builds 10.17.26 # if the encryption was the problem it wouldn't work for a second and then hang 10.17.54 # oh right 10.18.08 # well, the bootloader needs to be encrypted 10.18.33 # it's flashed though so it doesn't really keep a filename 10.18.46 # got it 10.18.54 # so it's really not something I m doing wrong... 10.19.27 # anyway, thanks a lot 10.19.28 # byebye 10.19.33 Part sfranky 10.29.43 Quit n1s (Remote host closed the connection) 10.32.38 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: Ex-Chat) 10.42.34 # * TheSeven extends his ears 10.43.58 # well, this sounds like some picky device that doesn't like our undervolting 10.44.16 # haven't heard of that kind of thing for a long time, but there might be a couple of monday's chips around... 10.52.47 Join kevku [0] (~kevku@2001:470:28:773:babe:feed:dead:bee) 10.53.39 Quit mshathlonxp (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10.59.40 # <[Saint]> TheSeven: "mondays's chips"? 10.59.45 # <[Saint]> -s 11.28.17 # does anyone know why the mkamsboot utility seems to keep mixing stdout and stderr for its output? 11.31.00 Quit antil33t () 11.41.52 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust703.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 11.44.01 Join Rog_Rar [0] (~Rog@ip-118-90-59-93.xdsl.xnet.co.nz) 11.47.27 # * [Saint] wonders why Ubuntu won't let him run RBUtil from his Nano2G directly 11.49.13 # <[Saint]> because it's NTFS perhaps? 11.49.24 # <[Saint]> Every time I set ther permissions they bounce straight back. 11.49.39 # <[Saint]> getting the "no application for executable files" error. 11.50.24 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 11.50.39 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust703.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 11.50.43 # <[Saint]> but I can move it to the desktop and do chmod a+x foo.ext && ./foo and it runs fine, then I move it to the iPod and try to run it and the permissions reset. ;-S 11.51.13 Quit robin0800 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11.51.22 # <[Saint]> or extract it to the iPod, and set the permissions directly there...bounces straight back as well. very odd, something I'm missing I'm sure. 11.51.29 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust703.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 11.51.35 Quit robin0800 (Client Quit) 11.51.50 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust703.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 11.54.12 # [Saint]: it's possible the entire mount is set as noexec if it's NTFS formatted. 11.54.12 Quit robin0800 (Client Quit) 11.54.24 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust703.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 11.55.37 # <[Saint]> "The permissions of "NANO 2G 8GB" could not be determined" 11.55.39 # <[Saint]> :-S 11.56.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.58.40 Join robin0800_ [0] (~robin0800@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust703.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 12.00.12 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@vit94-1-82-67-248-70.fbx.proxad.net) 12.00.12 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 12.00.12 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 12.00.27 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 12.05.18 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 12.05.41 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@124-197-3-117.callplus.net.nz) 12.13.54 Quit robin0800_ (Quit: Leaving) 12.18.47 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust703.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 12.25.54 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 12.30.59 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 12.35.07 Join Self-Perfection [0] (~self@95-24-140-111.broadband.corbina.ru) 12.38.33 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 12.40.59 # GodEater: Re: mkamsboot - I doubt there is a good reason... I'm not even sure I know where it should be sent. 12.50.25 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lem0n@ppp-233-20.26-151.libero.it) 12.53.20 Join mshathlonxp [0] (~athlonxpp@5ad7b04e.bb.sky.com) 12.54.00 Join n1s [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/n1s) 12.55.17 Join Jerom1 [0] (~jerome@95.171.142.86) 13.05.31 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Putting away laptop) 13.19.00 # linuxstb: stdout seems more sensible to me for the [INFO] messages - so I might fix that whilst I'm working on it 13.20.19 # PS - to everyone else - did we decide whose job it was going to be to knock up the script to remove all the svn keyword junk from our source tree? 13.27.07 Quit Jerom1 (Quit: Leaving.) 13.39.09 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@iwl138.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 13.39.59 # GodEater: I seem to remember that messages sent to stderr are easier to handle in rbutil (but I might be wrong) 13.40.31 # anyway I was adviced to use stderr when I was writing mkmpioboot tool 13.46.20 # wodz: ah ok 13.46.29 # in which case, we should probably at least be consistent ;) 13.46.41 # since there are still some messages sent to stdout in mkamsboot 13.46.49 # sure 13.47.35 # are there photos from DevCon somewhere online available? 13.47.55 # yes, check bagder's blog for the link : daniel.haxx.se/blog 13.48.07 # it's petur's picasa feed, but I don't recall the link myself ;) 13.56.38 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust703.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 13.56.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.07.24 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@ree79-1-78-237-225-34.fbx.proxad.net) 14.07.24 Quit GeekShadow (Changing host) 14.07.24 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 14.10.18 # GodEater: I can do it 14.10.33 # GodEater: since i seem to have volunteered to work on the plans for git migration anyway 14.13.59 Join krazykit [0] (~krazykit@206.183.185.8) 14.18.05 # Torne: sweet. 14.37.34 # * n1s hopes for a UsingGit page in the wiki popping up :) 14.37.44 # n1s: Not just yet 14.38.14 # i'm trying to set up a proper demo of gerrit first 14.38.44 # because the specific details of how we opt to host things will be relevant for decent instructions 14.39.42 # of course, i just think it would be very nice when we switch to make it easier for us git illiterates and probably make it less likely people do something wrong 14.39.46 # Right. 14.39.51 # I was also gonna produce such instructions, yes 14.39.58 # but not just yet :) 14.40.19 # gerrit seems to be a pretty great option from my testing so far 14.40.55 # it works as an authenticated server without needing ssh accounts (like gitosis and other things) but with a handy web interface to upload your ssh keys and so on 14.41.07 # and then it also is a patch review system 14.41.58 # so a bit like a more functional viewvc? 14.42.02 # No, it doesnt' do that part 14.42.17 # though it can link to one (it knows how to construct links for gitweb, cgit, etc) 14.42.27 # ah 14.42.51 # i guess i'll read up once it' sall set 14.42.52 # I've taken the demo i put up at devcon down again for now pending reconfiguring it slightly 14.43.01 # but you can see one at https://review.source.android.com/ 14.43.04 # which is AOSP's gerrit 14.45.08 # so it's like a patch/changeset queue where changes need to be reviewed to finally get into the repo? 14.45.19 # it's up to configuration whether they *need* to be reviewed 14.45.41 # aha 14.45.45 # i am proposing we allow committers to push directly to the tree still 14.45.58 # but people can optionally put things up for review first 14.46.04 # yeah, i like that 14.46.09 # and non-committers can also create accounts on gerrit and put things up for review 14.46.24 # and then a committer can commit it directly from gerrit without having to apply patch locally etc 14.46.30 # might be easier to get attention than for a patch in fs 14.46.49 # Well one big advantage over FS is you can comment directly on lines of a change 14.47.06 # and comments apply to specific versions of the patch (you can upload new ones) 14.47.17 # sounds good 14.47.19 # one downside is that gerrit doesn't currently accept input via email 14.47.30 # It can send email when new things are uploaded, or when someone asks you to review something 14.47.46 # but right now you have to go to the web interface, or poke it via ssh, to comment/approve/reject 14.48.29 # can you do fs by email? 14.48.52 # not sure. 14.48.58 Quit bieber (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 14.49.10 # but the alternative proposal discussed at devcon was to do this just by sending patches to rockbox-dev and discussing there 14.49.11 # so that's probably no worse than what we have now 14.49.13 # i.e. no tools 14.49.32 # so I was hoping I could find a way to do it that had the best of both worlds. 14.49.53 # It's probably possible to write a lil email hook script that feeds comments from email back into gerrit 14.50.22 # gerrit supports programmattically adding comments for things like buildbot output or automated source checks 14.51.31 # a webinterface is fine to me 14.51.46 # yah, i'm happ with that 14.52.00 # i'm just trying to cover as many people's preferred use cases as I can to increase the chance that there is general approval of gerrit ;) 14.53.26 # i do think we have a bit too many channels of communication though so if this works out, maybe we should scale fs back to just bugs? 14.53.33 # yes, that ws the idea 14.53.38 # we would stop accepting patches on FS 14.53.56 # ok 14.53.57 # and then *either* have people put patches in some kind of review tool which is better at dealing with them, or have people mail them to rockbox-dev 14.54.06 # people were in favour of both options 14.54.19 # (the existence of a review tool doesn't preclude mailing patches, of course) 14.54.43 # (but the existence of a review tool *does8 stop people from handling everything by email) 14.55.12 Quit krazykit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 14.56.14 Quit Self-Perfection (Remote host closed the connection) 14.56.43 # aanyway. we seem to be decided on moving to git, but there are still questions about how to host it, how to convert current svn (our git-svn mirror is only trunk, we may want to convert it with something else which keeps all the branches/etc), and what the general preferred workflow/policy should be (whether that's enforced by tools or just advised) 14.57.12 # so i'm gonna write up some proposals around this soon and see what people think 14.57.54 # including a more or less fully functional gerrit instance with a pretend rockbox repo people can play with 14.58.10 # i had it half going at devcon but my server apparently can't quite send email correctly atm ;) 14.59.34 Join evilnick_B [0] (0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 15.00.05 # Torne: sounds good 15.00.08 # * n1s wonders if the coldfire cache is messing with him 15.11.17 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 15.32.20 # umm, has CIA and or the build system died? 15.33.48 # http://build.rockbox.org/dev.cgi doesn't have the last 4 commits built 15.40.54 Join Szeraax [0] (~46721264@giant.haxx.se) 15.42.12 # Good Morning! So Yesterday, I was dl'ing the source for rockbox to do some of my own tinkering through SVN (with Cygwin), and my copying of the trunk got interrupted. Is it possible to resume copying the trunk? 15.42.29 # yup, just do svn update 15.42.41 # it should carry on from where it left off (and also update any of the files you have downloaded that have changed) 15.43.22 # Schweet 15.44.35 # ChanServ: when you say, 'do SVN update' You mean to 'run "$ svn co svn://svn.rockbox.org/rockbox/trunk rockbox" again, correct?' 15.47.06 # no 15.47.10 # no, run "svn update" (or svn up) 15.47.12 # just go into the directory and run "svn update" 15.48.00 # ok, thanks 15.53.31 # * GodEater will wait for a working gerrit system before submitting his patch to mkamsboot 15.53.38 # to test the thing out with real code 15.56.38 Quit Szeraax (Quit: CGI:IRC) 15.56.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.57.45 # damn it 15.57.53 # oh? 15.57.56 # Well, I guess you could 15.58.07 # i can't really host a real repository though :) 15.58.10 # too little bandwidth 15.58.30 # iot's why i only committed 1MB of rockbox code in my demo 15.59.50 # * GodEater wonders why his local 'master' claims to be ahead of origin/master by 19 commits 15.59.57 # even though I've not bloody changed it 16.00.14 # because you've picked up updates via git-svn and the git mirror is stuck? 16.00.16 # git diff reckons there's a load of android changes been made - but I certainly didn't make them 16.00.18 # that's one possibility anyway ;) 16.06.56 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.08.22 # I don't think my tree knows about the git mirror 16.08.45 # oh no - it does 16.12.18 Join mrkiko [0] (~mrkiko@151.31.64.118) 16.17.24 Join Szeraax [0] (~46721264@giant.haxx.se) 16.22.00 # Ok, more problems, yay! So while doing an SVN update from the trunk to my local directory (getting the source with Cygwin), I get the error, "failed to add file ... an unversioned file with the same name already exists" To tell SVN to overwrite any file that I have and give me exactly what is on the server, should I use 'svn update --force' or 'svn update --accept theirs-full' ? 16.23.25 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 16.25.12 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 16.27.53 # do what the message suggests? 16.30.50 # i didn't realize we were thinking about dropping HWCODEC support, what was discussed exactly? 16.37.00 # it wasn't a serious suggestion saratoga 16.41.05 Quit Szeraax (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 16.46.23 Quit mshathlonxp (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.47.26 Quit bluebrother (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16.47.40 Part mrkiko 16.49.29 Join Zambezi_ [0] (Zulu@80.67.9.2) 16.50.08 Quit Zambezi (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.02.48 Quit sideral (Quit: Leaving.) 17.04.25 Quit GeekShadow (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.04.54 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 17.05.49 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@213.165.85.248) 17.05.49 Quit sideral (Changing host) 17.05.49 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 17.06.11 Quit bluebrother-bot (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 17.06.34 Quit sideral (Remote host closed the connection) 17.07.19 Join wtachi [0] (~wtachi@cpe-065-190-012-236.nc.res.rr.com) 17.07.25 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@213.165.85.248) 17.07.25 Quit sideral (Changing host) 17.07.25 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 17.09.48 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 17.16.49 Quit sideral (Remote host closed the connection) 17.16.54 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 17.17.42 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@213.165.85.248) 17.17.42 Quit sideral (Changing host) 17.17.42 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 17.18.08 Join bluebrother-bot [0] (~bluebroth@f053155197.adsl.alicedsl.de) 17.22.20 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! 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Care to comment? 19.55.33 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4755 3Wikipedia (patches, closed) 19.57.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.57.44 # AlexP: Have you had a chance to play with the dynamic DB-add patch, FS#12073 ? 19.57.45 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12073 3Dynamically add files to database as they are played (patches, new) 19.58.14 # sideral: yes indeed, but each time I've remembered to tell you you haven't been online :) 19.58.43 # It seems to work very nicely - I initialised the db with one track via liberal use of database.ignore 19.59.04 # And since then have just been using the player, and checking every now and again 19.59.20 # As far as I can tell what gets played is turning up in the db :) 19.59.31 # Cool, thanks for testing! 19.59.33 # Have you used it for autoresume yet? 19.59.52 # not yet actually, I've been listening to a bit more music recently 20.00.03 # I can't remember doing anything about the wikipedia patch... must be ages ago if at al 20.00.05 # l 20.01.00 # AlexP: Have you noticed any performance degradation? 20.01.37 # sideral: Not noticed any no 20.01.37 # AlexP: Looks like it makes no sense to ask whether you've noticed it missing to add any track :) 20.01.58 # How many tracks have been added in the meantime? 20.02.12 # I haven't been looking, but if I haven't noticed that must mean it hasn't seemed slower :) 20.02.34 # I tend to listen to full albums, so I can have a look if it has missed any 20.02.50 # And I would guess it has added a hundred or so 20.04.05 # pixelma: Right, that was ages ago: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4755#comment32360 20.05.33 Quit GeekShadow (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.05.44 Join GeekShad0w [0] (~Antoine@ree79-1-78-237-225-34.fbx.proxad.net) 20.06.26 # AlexP: Thanks again! Let me know if you make use of the DB at all eventually, and if you notice any missing features (or misfeatures ;) ) 20.06.26 Quit ricemark20 (Quit: Leaving) 20.07.00 # sideral: heh, will do :) 20.08.57 # sideral: well, maybe he needs to give his ok for the replacement. Maybe one could even get hold of him in IRC as he's around a little more regularly in #quassel (freenode too) 20.09.25 # as freqmod or some derivate of that 20.09.34 # pixelma: I'm already trying to chat him up. 20.09.53 # pixelma: Which "replacement" are you referring to? 20.11.10 # I understood "> 4) Documentation refers to "freqmod" - can that be changed to a real name?" as "there is some files that state freqmod as author" but I really don't remember much and may be lacking context 20.11.39 # there "are" some files too 20.13.51 # pixelma: Thanks. OK, I'll try to clarify that he's the author. I find closing FS#4755 a bit premature, as there seems to be lots of interest in the task. I am myself using it, and I'd be interested in shepherding it in if no one else steps up 20.13.52 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/4755 3Wikipedia (patches, closed) 20.14.15 # there seem to have been quite a lot of contributors to the patch though, most of their real names seem to be known though 20.15.30 Quit Self-Perfection (Remote host closed the connection) 20.16.34 # pixelma: Right. There also seem to be several changes in some private repositories on github & similar that aren't included in the tracker item. I'm going to check them out one by one as a low-prio task. There's a lot of history to cover after 4½ years :) 20.19.45 # for some reason I only noticed that there was some discussion about the wikipedia patch these days but not exactly what's been said. One thing I remember having heard was that it wouldn't work nicely, haven't tried myself though. Maybe you could bring it up once more on the ml or so 20.20.51 # I saw someone asking for / interested in working on bi-directional text support 20.26.48 # On an entirely unrelated note: 20.26.49 # I'm working on several improvements for podcast playback and management, including last-played highlighting (FS#12054 ), a "mark as complete" function, enhancements to podcatcher synchronization, a podcast rating function, and other things. 20.26.49 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12054 3Highlight each album's last-played track in database views - great for audiobooks and podcasts (patches, new) 20.27.02 # I have trouble finding a good venue for discussing all this with potential users. Any suggestions? 20.27.18 # I'd say -dev would be a good first step 20.27.37 # Hmm... We don't seem to have many podcast listeners in the group of developers 20.27.40 # As the devs are realy the ones whose opinions come first :) 20.28.18 # I mean as in you don't want to spend ages getting opinions and things like that if the other devs don't like it :) 20.29.03 # AlexP: I'd like to get some input on requirements from users first, not endless discussions on what's allegedly not possible :) 20.29.50 # Well, it is up to you 20.29.55 Join Robin0800 [0] (~quassel@149.254.60.41) 20.30.42 # I dislike generally separating podcasts from any other type of file 20.31.31 # :) see? 20.31.51 # Right, and devs opinions win over users 20.32.02 # So you need to convince the devs first :) 20.33.22 # I think it might be easier to convince the developers if there's no need to hypothesize whether there actually is any demand 20.33.43 # Maybe, but demand hasn't meant anything in the past 20.34.12 # As in if the devs don't want something, some users wanting it doesn't change anything :) 20.34.25 # Anyway, I'm not talking about this thing now 20.34.31 # Just in general terms :) 20.34.53 # Sure. But please remember that I am a developer, I'm not asking anyone to do the work for me :) 20.35.01 # Oh, I know :) 20.35.17 # But that doesn't mean it'll get in if the others are against it :) 20.35.29 # To your point: I don't particularly like special cases either, but it seems to me that podcasts actually prefer some settings to be different 20.35.57 # Spoken word anyway 20.36.38 # but yeah, possibly 20.36.50 # It is a general dislike of mine, not a hard rule :) 20.37.05 # In the Sansa OFs, for example, these settings are keyed to the directory names. 20.37.10 # which is wank 20.37.26 # any better alternative? 20.37.36 # sure, tags, user settable 20.37.52 Quit Robin0800 (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 20.37.52 # there's no universal tag for podcasts or audiobooks 20.37.54 # A massive thing of Rockbox for me and many people is not being forced to do things like that 20.38.21 # and you could argue tags shouldn't be forced on the user either, much like directory names 20.38.31 Join robin0800 [0] (~quassel@149.254.61.208) 20.38.33 # Let the users pick the directories then 20.38.41 # But I am well against specific directory names 20.39.33 # What about languages other than English? 20.39.33 # * amiconn agrees with AlexP 20.39.33 # Furthermore I don't really understand why spoken word needs different handling than other audio stuff 20.39.33 # I could live with configurable directories. autoresume implements it this way 20.39.40 # another alternative I see is having per-directory .config files. Why has that idea been rejected in the past? 20.39.43 # I would stick out long against anything that forces certain naming/layouts 20.39.51 # This is you being a db user I think 20.39.59 # Not caring much where things are on disk 20.40.30 # sideral: I'm not sure, per dir config would be nice if done properly 20.40.52 # I do care where stuff is. But I think asking users to place stuff into a certain (configurable) dir if they want some function seems reasonable to me 20.40.55 # Per directory config is actually hard to do 20.40.59 # sideral: Not to me 20.41.13 # I find it the exact opposite 20.41.20 # I have my stuff organised how I want it 20.41.34 Quit robin0800 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.41.34 # I don't want to have to move bits of it around just to get a feature to work 20.41.45 # Since we don't want to spin the disk on each track change, you would somehow have to store such configuration data as part of each buffered track's metadata 20.42.16 # amiconn: Yeah, that's what I meant by properly - I don't think the idea itself is rejected, it just has to be done to avoid stuff like that 20.42.19 # amiconn: I figure it could be cached quite easily. 20.43.13 # Less easily atm considering we have two different playback engines, each having its own buffering system 20.43.16 # per-dir config could open up more configurability that's often requested, such as per-podcast compressor settings 20.44.01 # It'd also make a lot of other things not necessary 20.44.02 # * amiconn will hopefully be able to do something about that 20.44.27 # People can have fine grained settings and not the ones we pick for different "modes", and applied to wherever they want 20.44.56 Join robin0800 [0] (~quassel@149.254.61.169) 20.45.50 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 20.45.55 Quit robin0800 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.46.26 Join robin0800 [0] (~quassel@149.254.61.41) 20.46.31 Join [Saint] [0] (~st.lasciv@124-197-3-117.callplus.net.nz) 20.46.54 # AlexP, amiconn: Thanks for your input so far! 20.47.18 # amiconn: BTW, any further comments re FS#12107 ? 20.47.18 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12107 3Remove track-number generation heuristic from database (patches, new) 20.48.04 # sideral: No worries, and sorry for being a bit negative - but I was talking generally, and not about anything your proposing at the minute :) 20.48.14 # I'm in favour of removing the guessing, as I already expressed several times 20.48.44 # amiconn: Also in the light of the feedback given by Slasheri, I assume? 20.49.34 # yes 20.49.45 # alright, thanks amiconn! 20.59.08 Join factor [0] (~factor@74.197.205.204) 21.02.52 Quit simonlnu (Remote host closed the connection) 21.03.12 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lem0n@ppp-235-14.26-151.libero.it) 21.04.01 Quit sideral (Quit: Leaving.) 21.05.06 Quit robin0800 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.05.26 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@149.254.60.41) 21.07.32 Join robin0800_ [0] (~robin0800@149.254.61.169) 21.07.42 Quit robin0800_ (Client Quit) 21.07.55 Quit robin0800 (Client Quit) 21.08.33 Join robin0800 [0] (~quassel@149.254.61.208) 21.09.27 Quit robin0800 (Remote host closed the connection) 21.09.40 Join simonlnu [0] (sMrN8QTpDA@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 21.09.52 Join Robin0800 [0] (~quassel@149.254.61.41) 21.12.00 Join bieber [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 21.13.25 Join promyloph [0] (~foo@unaffiliated/promyloph) 21.22.03 Quit Robin0800 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.27.05 Join Robin0800 [0] (~quassel@149.254.61.169) 21.30.18 Quit Robin0800 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.30.41 Join Robin0800 [0] (~quassel@149.254.61.169) 21.31.28 Quit Robin0800 (Remote host closed the connection) 21.35.34 # per dir configs would also be tricky if you want the settings to *only* apply in that dir since you'd need to keep the old settings somewhere and what if you have a playlist with tracks from multiple dirs and one dir has a settings change that needs a reboot or a playback restart? 21.35.35 Join merbanan [0] (~banan@c-94-255-222-82.cust.bredband2.com) 21.36.12 # and does the settings menu reflect the settings in the current dir? 21.39.44 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@genld-217-248.t-mobile.co.uk) 21.42.11 Quit promyloph (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5) 21.51.14 Join krazykit [0] (~krazykit@206.183.185.8) 21.57.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.01.30 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: HIP-HOP sounds best when you listen to METAL instead.) 22.07.05 Quit Rog_Rar (Quit: Leaving) 22.11.20 Quit Stummi (Quit: Bye!) 22.12.23 Quit simonlnu (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.19.20 # sideral (I hope you read logs): the way I understand the wikipedia task is that freqmod did add a lot to the wikipedia patch, but he didn't write the original one, and whoever did that has not been identified 22.20.55 # So no, I don't agree that this should have been left open 22.21.19 Join simonlnu [0] (A8ZFySAtYW@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 22.25.59 # there were so many comments and changes in the patch that I quickly lost track 22.32.44 # gevaerts: doesn't sound like freqmod based his work on the project mentioned right before in the task but I am not sure. Maybe he can tell us more about its history and as I said it should be possible to get hold of him 22.32.44 Quit ReimuHakurei_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.33.21 # maybe not immediately 22.34.50 # hm, that's possible 22.36.24 # or maybe he even was referred to in the misticriver link post, unfortunately it doesn't seem to be around anymore (or maybe you have to be registered or whatever) 22.37.56 # right, on re-reading it looks like the code may be from freqmod after all, with later modifications by other people, who all seem to be named 22.42.49 Join ReimuHakurei [0] (~reimu@74.112.212.15) 22.43.04 # * gevaerts decides that sideral is the right person to investigate this :) 22.56.26 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: Ex-Chat) 22.58.45 Quit keyb_gr (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.03.18 Quit ReimuHakurei (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.03.37 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 23.05.32 Quit GeekShad0w (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 23.06.53 Join [Saint] [0] (~st.lasciv@124-197-3-117.callplus.net.nz) 23.07.33 Quit [Saint] (Client Quit) 23.09.15 Join [Saint] [0] (~st.lasciv@124-197-3-117.callplus.net.nz) 23.10.46 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) 23.10.46 Quit Zagor (Changing host) 23.10.46 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 23.11.59 Quit evilnick_B (Quit: Page closed) 23.13.43 # * Zagor crosses some fingers and presses the button 23.14.20 Join ReimuHakurei [0] (~reimu@74.112.212.15) 23.23.22 Quit Unhelpful (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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