--- Log for 12.06.111 Server: card.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 10 days and 22 hours ago 00.06.53 # Is the rockbox-dev mailing list moderated? My postings don't seem to get through since I switched to my @rockbox.org email address 00.07.16 # It's subscriber-only, yes 00.07.32 # You can have a non-delivery subscribtion though 00.07.33 # But posting via gmane used to work with my old address 00.07.47 Join ChickeNES [0] (~ChickeNES@99-133-145-177.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) 00.07.48 # I don't remember subscribing to -dev to be able to post 00.10.52 # You need to check with the Swedes then I guess 00.10.52 Quit evilnick (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.12.39 # thanks gevaerts. I'll verify first that I really didn't subscribe and just don't remember :) 00.14.03 # there is a subscriber-only rule enabled 00.14.27 # while we can in theory allow non-subscrbers at will, that list only has the rsb email address 00.15.08 # Just had it send me a passwd reminder -- and it looks like I indeed subscribed to it :) 00.15.13 # =) 00.15.33 # Alright, I'll subscribe the new address then and repost. 00.15.44 # and btw, 495 members are on the rockbox-dev list! 00.16.07 # 1114 on the "regular" rockbox list 00.16.33 # wow 00.19.07 Quit keyb_gr (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 00.22.18 Quit mshathlonxp (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.23.03 Join simonlnu_ [0] (F8iEpFxftv@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 00.23.26 Join mshathlonxp [0] (~athlonmpp@5ad7b04e.bb.sky.com) 00.23.57 Quit simonlnu (Read error: Operation timed out) 00.24.00 Nick simonlnu_ is now known as simonlnu (F8iEpFxftv@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 00.24.38 # Bagder: Thanks, the posting made it now. You can delete the other attempts from the list's filter :) 00.25.02 # non-subscribers' posts are just discarded without telling anyone... 00.25.49 # ah, very convenient ;) 00.25.50 # mostly because we used to get so many spam posts it got unbearable 00.27.38 Quit mshathlonxp (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.28.51 Join mshathlonxp [0] (~athlonmpp@5ad7b04e.bb.sky.com) 00.29.05 Quit ChickeNES (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 00.29.12 # BTW, I'm quite sad that there's so little traffic on the user's mailing list. I have to follow multiple web forums to "know what the users think", and I believe that most of these discussions would belong to the mailing list. Those were the times, I guess 00.29.56 # mailing lists are annoying, so i think most users just stick to forums 00.30.42 # saratoga: Huh? If there's something that's annoying, it's forums 00.32.40 Quit mudd1 (Quit: Ex-Chat) 00.32.58 # given the ratio of forums to mailing list users, i think most people would disagree 00.34.05 Quit ender` (Quit: If you assign N persons to write a compiler you'll get a N-1 pass compiler.) 00.35.35 # That's because they don't know the powers a good mail or news reader can unfold. But sadly true, nonetheless 00.39.12 # well, I did unsubscribe from the users ML because of the amount of crap (and users not willing to follow our etiquette and such). The forums are strangely much more sane in that aspect 00.39.30 # personally I'd prefer that stuff to go via mailing lists instead of forums but well ... 00.49.45 # At least I can already read our forums with my news reader. 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(~quassel@rockbox/developer/n1s) 09.54.11 # What is the best way to read the database files? 09.55.18 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 09.58.37 Join simonlnu [0] (XQmyhBos2U@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 09.59.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.01.30 # <[Saint]> aren't they just plain text? 10.02.09 # read them for what? 10.03.41 # bug2000: use the tagcache api, a demonstration can be found from tools/database/database.c 10.03.50 # [Saint]: no, we use a custom binary format 10.04.08 # Slasheri: Nothing that I can quickly compile? 10.04.24 # what are you going to do? 10.04.35 # Slasheri: is there pathname compression or something like that in the db? 10.04.56 # n1s: no, full pathname is always included, without compression 10.05.04 Join rdd [0] (~rdd@c83-250-52-16.bredband.comhem.se) 10.05.07 # ah 10.05.19 # Slasheri: Just want to read 'em on the PC. 10.05.34 # bug2000: then export db changes to a changelog 10.05.38 # that is a plain text file 10.05.50 # the database stuff on android doesn't work yet, does it? 10.07.22 # i think it does 10.09.42 # Wee crash; Undefined instrucation at 20248CFC. 10.10.36 # Data about at 30212598 FST 0x8 (domain 0, fault 8) address 0xE082FD5C 10.11.16 # Data abort at 302158A for 0x8 (domain 0, fault 8) address 0xE82FD60 10.11.33 # Is this crash data any worthy? 10.11.52 # bug2000: maybe, if you have a way to trigger it 10.12.09 # n1s: Nah, pretty just happened out of the blue on me >.> 3 multiple crashes. 10.12.15 # in a row* 10.14.06 # <[Saint]> n17ikh: Sure it does. 10.14.15 # hmm 10.14.18 # <[Saint]> n1s: jsyk, also ^ 10.14.24 # doesn't work for me, tells me "reboot to enable" 10.14.37 # <[Saint]> n17ikh: So....reboot? ;) 10.14.51 # bug2000: then it's of limited use i think, the data aborts are kind of interesting though 10.15.11 # well, killing the application didn't help it 10.15.24 # n1s: I was trying to duplicate the duplication bug of the database. and got those stuff in the process. 10.15.26 # <[Saint]> It certainly should do. 10.15.29 # those addresses are word aligned so something else is probably wrong 10.15.41 # <[Saint]> turn the phone off and on again. 10.15.52 # <[Saint]> or, use a build with Shut Down" enabled. 10.16.11 # <[Saint]> killing the task certainly should "just work" though. 10.16.13 # seriously, reboot the phone? what is this, windows 95? 10.16.16 # :/ 10.16.21 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@S0106001d7e6ee18d.vc.shawcable.net) 10.16.24 # <[Saint]> I did it myself for about a month before I bothered adding shutdown to the main menu. 10.16.42 # <[Saint]> as I said above, killing the task works for me. 10.17.06 # hmm 10.18.27 # <[Saint]> If rebooting the actual handset doesn't work...then there's something else wrong. 10.20.42 Quit Keripo (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 10.22.53 # Finally. This bug is ANNOYING. 10.26.47 Quit user890104 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 10.27.25 # Finally managed to generate bad database. 10.28.08 Quit sideral (Quit: Leaving.) 10.28.54 # <[Saint]> Oh? Please share. 10.28.57 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lem0n@ppp-33-0.26-151.libero.it) 10.29.18 # Yeah, uha which files are the database one that I have to upload? 10.29.54 # <[Saint]> .tcd and .idx pertain to the database. 10.29.59 # k. 10.30.13 # .idx? 10.30.47 Join mshathlonxp [0] (~athlonmpp@5ad7b04e.bb.sky.com) 10.30.55 # [Saint]: Can I send it only to you or I have to upload the database for the entire world to see? 10.31.35 # bug2000: it's probably most useful fro us if you can file a bug report and attach it there 10.31.46 # n1s: Fine :( 10.32.18 # tar.lzo is ok? 10.33.28 # no idea :) 10.33.51 # Gerat, then you'll enjoy this format :P 10.33.52 Join hobby16 [0] (~ubuntu@162.123.68.86.rev.sfr.net) 10.34.04 # <[Saint]> Hmmm, yep. Whoops...off to banish myself to the hole for thinking the database index had it's own extension. 10.35.00 # <[Saint]> bug2000: people are probably less likely to look at it if you put it in a truly obscure compression format, though ;) 10.35.37 # <[Saint]> Also...what do you possibly listen to that you might not want others to see? 10.35.45 # <[Saint]> porn soundtracks? ;) 10.35.46 # [Saint]: So .lzo isn't obsecure enough... Gimme a format? :P 10.36.10 # [Saint]: Nah. But if I don't want people to know, why would I say it on IRC? :P 10.36.26 # <[Saint]> it's ok, I can just go check the tracker :P 10.36.36 # XD 10.36.48 # Ok, so what obsecure format should I use? 10.37.05 # zip? 10.37.17 Quit n1s (Remote host closed the connection) 10.37.33 # Nah, zip isn't obsecure at all. 10.37.39 # <[Saint]> perhaps I worded that oddly. 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Just a side-note. 16.20.24 Quit xeniter (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 16.22.03 # <[Saint]> whoops, the Nano1G has the 8975 16.22.07 # * [Saint] is in dreamland. 16.22.35 # ooh......... 16.24.01 # <[Saint]> damn, I was really hoping I *didn't* mess that up ;) 16.24.20 # <[Saint]> It'd work for the Color and the Nano1G then too (both of which I own) ;) 16.25.04 Quit Llorean1 (Quit: Leaving.) 16.26.16 # <[Saint]> Oh, Nano2G also. 16.26.25 # <[Saint]> You worked on the wrong one! :P 16.31.59 # nano2 has 8975? 16.33.22 # <[Saint]> according to ipodnano2g.h yes 16.34.40 # aah damn no datasheet for 8975... i had nano 1g it was great player 16.34.50 # i mailed wolfson about 8758 datasheet 16.34.56 # no response for months 16.35.00 # and after that they release it 16.35.33 # *released 16.36.41 # <[Saint]> I *love* the sound of my Nano1G(s) and Color(s)...the Nano2G sounds...different to me, maybe something diferent in the HW setup that RB does, no idea. 16.37.04 # <[Saint]> I've never listened to the Nano2G with the OF personally, the GF does occasionally in the car though. 16.38.28 # <[Saint]> perhaps if you posted to the developers mailing list *someone* has the datasheet for the 8975 floating around. 16.41.08 # current driver seems pretty vanila there might be room to improve 16.41.24 Quit dan_a (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 16.42.48 # * mshathlonxp doesn't like sound of his 1G nano 16.43.12 # when listening the same stuff I usually do with my video, it feels that nano is lacking some high frequency response 16.43.25 Quit Guest62492 (Changing host) 16.43.25 Join Guest62492 [0] (~fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 16.43.29 Nick Guest62492 is now known as gevaerts (~fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 16.44.11 # cpu98 what does your patch do - improves sound quality? 16.44.19 # actually it does 16.45.04 # which ipod video are you using? 16.45.26 # <[Saint]> errrr...what? 16.45.59 # ?° 16.46.08 # 5.5G 16.46.13 # should work for all videos 16.47.25 # * mshathlonxp is too lazy to compile rockbox 16.47.44 # do you have 80GB or 30GB? 16.47.57 # 80g 16.49.44 # <[Saint]> the only possible differences between ZVideos is RAM and HDD iiuc. 16.49.49 # <[Saint]> -Z 16.50.38 # well, is rockbox compiled with RAM size specified? 16.51.08 # no. 16.51.24 # well yes, but it figures it out :) 16.51.44 # there is only one ipodvideo build now, anyway. 16.52.08 # sounds nice 16.52.24 # cpu98 can you share your compiled rockbox for ipod video? 16.52.35 # I think I won't hear any difference, but anyway :> 16.52.47 # sure but it isn't quite vanilla though 16.52.58 # <[Saint]> *way* nicer for Torne regarding "my doesn't work with my Video" forum posts, anyway ;) 16.53.08 # :D 16.53.08 # [Saint]: that was seperate :) 16.53.19 # hehe 16.55.24 # msathlonxp I'm scared of my patch exploding your ipod 17.00.09 Join promyloph [0] (~foo@unaffiliated/promyloph) 17.01.43 # strange issue on my build client 17.01.55 # it can't find the compiler, even though it's there 17.02.21 # mshathlonxp you need one? 17.02.40 Join wtachi [0] (~wtachi@cpe-065-190-012-236.nc.res.rr.com) 17.05.02 # I could use one ;> 17.06.58 # hm 17.07.07 # I think I know what's wrong 17.07.18 # that server possibly cannot execute 32bit binaries 17.07.21 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 17.07.23 Join bluebroth3r [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 17.09.55 Quit bluebrother-bot (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 17.10.18 # is there a kernel module for this? 17.10.39 Join mystica555 [0] (~Mike@71-208-223-57.hlrn.qwest.net) 17.14.11 # kugel: as far as I know, the kernel should be able to handle both, but you might not have the required userspace bits 17.14.59 # * AlexP clangs the freezy bell - 1 day to go! 17.15.54 # I perhaps lack the libraries 17.16.16 # it sucks that I forgot the root password for this machine :) 17.18.35 # Why are you trying to run 32 bit compilers on it anyway? 17.19.59 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@213.165.85.248) 17.19.59 Quit sideral (Changing host) 17.19.59 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 17.19.59 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@f048140150.adsl.alicedsl.de) 17.20.22 Join timccc [0] (~aoeu@112.166.15.141) 17.20.44 Join bluebrother-bot [0] (~bluebroth@f053155120.adsl.alicedsl.de) 17.20.53 # mshathlonxp where to upload? 17.21.08 # I dunno, you choose ;> 17.21.09 Part timccc 17.21.14 # <[Saint]> datafilehost.com (painless) 17.23.25 Quit Topy (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 17.23.54 Quit FOAD (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.24.00 Nick promyloph is now known as promy|afk (~foo@unaffiliated/promyloph) 17.24.05 Join FOAD [0] (~dok@83.161.135.61) 17.26.30 Quit bertrik (Read error: Connection timed out) 17.26.51 # gevaerts: the ndk has only 32bit binaries 17.27.09 # Time to drop android support then ;) 17.27.13 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 17.27.13 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 17.27.13 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 17.27.24 # gevaerts : what@!!!! 17.27.44 # http://www.datafilehost.com/download-66b93cc0.html ipod build came 17.31.02 # bug2000: congrats on reproducing the bug. I'll have a look ASAP. 17.31.39 # If you want to take a quick look at the DB contents yourself, you can use the Python scripts posted at the end of this page: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/TagcacheDBFormat 17.32.08 # I maintain a copy at https://github.com/sideral-rockbox/rbdb 17.32.27 # You can easily change these scripts to dump whatever you like 17.35.58 # * mshathlonxp reboots ipod video 17.36.16 # earphones emits sound, no errors and no smoke coming from ipod ;> 17.36.37 # it's a trick! 17.38.42 Join Jerom [0] (~jerome@95.171.142.74) 17.40.03 # earphones emits sound, no errors and no smoke coming from ipod ;> <- you just don't see the smoke, because it's trapped in the hermetically sealed body :) 17.40.45 # you're wrong 17.40.47 # it's not hermetical 17.40.48 # ;> 17.41.01 # <[Saint]> then, how does Apple emit the iNeural-Toxins? 17.41.23 # god only knows 17.41.26 # steve jobs* 17.41.28 # :D 17.41.47 # can anyone explain where is that new "Histogram interval" string? 17.42.01 # description says "in record settings menu" but I can't find it 17.43.49 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 17.45.08 # ah and one more question - is firmware that is running on iPod able to regulate voltage received by connected accesory? 17.45.58 # * mshathlonxp has noticed that when apples firmware is running, FM transmitter is receiving noticeably less voltage 17.46.14 Nick promy|afk is now known as promyloph (~foo@unaffiliated/promyloph) 17.47.09 Join robin0800_ [0] (~quassel@149.254.61.160) 17.50.07 Quit robin0800 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 17.50.09 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 17.51.24 # <[Saint]> Hmmm....why is the peak meter settings in recording options and playback options? 17.52.11 # <[Saint]> *s/playback/display/ 17.55.49 Quit robin0800_ (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 17.56.04 # <[Saint]> also, I have *no* idea what r29969 changes. 17.56.30 # <[Saint]> I can't seem to find anything on my devices regarding histogram in playback. 17.56.35 Join robin0800 [0] (~quassel@149.254.61.232) 17.57.34 # <[Saint]> I guess, it does say "makes it usable by"...not "make it usable *in*". 17.59.48 # <[Saint]> If I'm not just talking to myself here (;)), is there perhaps a case for moving the peak meter settings to somewhere it won't be doubled up needlessly? 18.00.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.00.11 # 'm watching 18.01.09 Quit robin0800 (Client Quit) 18.02.28 Join robin0800 [0] (~quassel@149.254.61.32) 18.02.41 # <[Saint]> It's not specific to recording, so...moving it out of recording settings "fixes" it. 18.04.15 # maybe that's todo 18.06.05 Join HaimN [0] (~quassel@95.86.78.134) 18.07.35 Quit bertrik (Read error: Connection timed out) 18.08.19 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 18.12.36 Join dan_a [0] (~dan_a@217.23.173.156) 18.12.47 # <[Saint]> Hmmm...AVG seems to be giving a false positive for RBUtil now also. 18.14.58 Quit robin0800 (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 18.15.19 # bye 18.15.42 Join robin0800 [0] (~quassel@149.254.60.32) 18.19.46 Quit cpu98 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 18.21.11 Join ruskie [0] (ruskie@sourcemage/mage/ruskie) 18.21.30 # lo, is there an easy way to clean current playlist(Sansa Clip) ? 18.22.55 # <[Saint]> "clean"? 18.23.05 # remove all entries in the current playlist 18.23.37 # stop playback 18.23.45 # <[Saint]> stop playback 18.23.49 # <[Saint]> dammit. 18.23.52 # [Saint]: histogram is only available on iriver h10 and h300 18.24.01 # eh h100, not h10 18.25.02 # <[Saint]> Aha, that gibes me a very good reason as to why I couldn't find it then. 18.25.05 # <[Saint]> *gives too 18.35.10 Quit bertrik (Read error: Connection timed out) 18.35.53 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 18.36.18 Quit robin0800 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 18.37.29 Join robin0800 [0] (~quassel@149.254.61.232) 18.38.38 Quit [Saint] (Quit: Imagination is for turbo-nerds who can't handle how kick-butt reality is. I'm a kick-butt reality master! I would rather die, than be imaginative. I mean that.) 18.40.36 Quit robin0800 (Remote host closed the connection) 18.40.44 Join [Saint] [0] (~st.lasciv@124-197-3-117.callplus.net.nz) 18.48.58 Quit promyloph (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5) 19.05.58 # Did we come to a conclusion at devcon about whether we want to try and enforce a linear history going forward in git? 19.06.10 # gerrit can totally do it (you can reject pushing merge commits) 19.07.00 # Did we discuss it? 19.07.17 # er, not with everyone :) 19.07.21 # i talked to some people ;) 19.08.02 # Right. Did those who understand the question properly (I know what you *mean*, but I've never thought about the implications) seem to have similar opinions? :) 19.08.13 # er, kinda 19.08.37 # the main implication is you have to rebase before you can push, if anyone else has made a commit 19.08.45 # like having to do svn up before you can svn commit 19.09.14 # if you are actually using gerrit to submit via code reviews, though, this is much less of a problem beause gerrit can do it "for you" on the server side by cherrypicking 19.12.02 # Allowing merge commits means that you're blindly trusting git to do the right thing, while rejecting those means the committer (at least in theory) checks if things make sense? 19.12.28 Quit parafin (*.net *.split) 19.12.28 Quit ender| (*.net *.split) 19.12.29 Quit advcomp2019__ (*.net *.split) 19.12.29 Quit n1s (*.net *.split) 19.12.29 Quit niekie (*.net *.split) 19.12.29 Quit ved_ (*.net *.split) 19.12.29 Quit Zarggg_ (*.net *.split) 19.12.30 Quit MethoS- (*.net *.split) 19.12.30 Quit mikroflops (*.net *.split) 19.12.30 Quit tripelb (*.net *.split) 19.12.31 Quit boghog (*.net *.split) 19.12.31 Quit merbanan (*.net *.split) 19.12.32 Quit ps-auxw (*.net *.split) 19.12.32 Quit ukleinek (*.net *.split) 19.12.32 Quit TBCOOL (*.net *.split) 19.12.42 # Well, there is a *seperate* option for allowing merges that require conflict resolution 19.13.00 # so unless that's also enabled then allowing merge commits should generally be fine 19.13.28 # <[Saint]> hehehehe! 19.13.31 # the "problem" with merge commits is just that the history becomes a graph 19.13.39 # <[Saint]> it's not very often I discover an actual bug ;) 19.13.49 # * gevaerts nods 19.13.58 # <[Saint]> seems that rockboxinfo has been stuck on 29969 for some time now ;) 19.14.00 # usually quite a complicated graph quite quickly, if few/no people rebase their changes ;) 19.14.36 # <[Saint]> Install a new build from the current builds section, it states the revision as 29969 19.15.03 # [Saint]: hm, I believe someone said something like that a few days ago... 19.15.09 # that's actually the bot being stuck i think 19.15.10 # <[Saint]> Aw! 19.15.16 # <[Saint]> *I* wanted to find it! 19.15.20 Join ChickeNES [0] (~ChickeNES@99-133-145-177.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) 19.15.26 # the builds after 29969 don't appear tobe being uploaded 19.15.42 # Torne: so what you'd *really* want would be something like "only allow merge commits if they're actually more than just people not having rebased"? :) 19.15.49 # gevaerts: heh 19.15.54 # <[Saint]> Ah... 19.16.11 # gevaerts: Well yes, the time you *want* to commit a merge is when someone has worked on something in a parallel branch for a while and you want to keep all that history 19.16.28 # rebasing that kind of thing is generally crazy hard 19.16.35 # Yes, and not being able to keep it then is a bit annoying 19.16.46 # Well it's not an irrevocable choice 19.17.02 # in fact it's a permission that can be different for different people :) 19.17.12 # I at least understand why it's an actual question :) 19.17.33 # there's two related things here: whether gerrit allows you to push a merge commit, and how gerrit actually submits patches itself when it's told to 19.18.32 # it can refuse if they need rebasing, or merge it for you, or cherrypick it (which is functionally equivalent to you rebasing it and reuploading it) 19.18.40 # * [Saint] wonders what's wrong...as the builds are being...errr, built. 19.19.37 # I guess the thing to do is bring up the demo/sandbox with it enforcing linear history and see what people think 19.19.41 # relaxing it is easy 19.19.51 # turning it linear again after allowing people to sbumit merges is basically impossible ;) 19.21.29 # [Saint]: Yeah, sorry - that is known :) 19.21.38 # And it the builds, not just rockboxinfo 19.22.13 # They aren't being copied to the download directory I would guess 19.22.16 # TheLemonMan: hi 19.25.10 # i did some more reversing on the rom and found some slightly differences between the dasm and your code 19.26.45 # for the usb part ? 19.27.03 # yup 19.27.25 # you said the problem was the pll, right ? 19.27.40 # that's to be expected since usb; it could be I said but that was just an idea 19.27.52 # *usb is rather complicated 19.28.26 # But on my device it works and don't forget that's my rom ! :) 19.28.55 # heh, that's the strange part 19.29.25 # did you find something interesting ? 19.29.54 # Bagder/ Zagor: ping 19.30.02 # I had a look at the ROM but the code is definitely hard to disassemble, I was interested in the sb handling part but did go far enough 19.30.12 # *didn't 19.30.46 # nothing much, the usb part kinda matches your code even if i havent finished disassembling it 19.31.43 # the interesting part was the bootup sequence and how they hide stuff into reserved bits of otp :D 19.31.54 # yes, I saw that too :) 19.32.22 # I only find some read/write to reserved regions of the memory, there is probably something here :) 19.32.24 # *alqso 19.32.26 # *also 19.32.45 # yeah, low memory around 0x5000/0x6000 19.33.03 # hum, no that ocram 19.33.05 # *that's 19.33.22 # the code copies some data from the rom to the ram 19.33.38 # the 0x5000 region is a used as "scratch pad" since the rom needs some ram ! 19.33.56 # but really I'm confident that the usb controller part is correct, the problem is probably elsewhere 19.34.11 # I have writes to some 0x8003C... iirc 19.34.29 # i wonder why they waste so much space with useless data between functions 19.35.08 # Torne: IMO merge commits are fine 19.35.35 # I didn't find useless data, there is a LOT of code in this rom 19.35.56 # there a kind of master table which points to several function tables 19.36.03 # huh, there is some meaningless data between some functions 19.36.09 Quit bluebrother-bot (Quit: So long, and thanks for all the fish.) 19.36.35 # are you sure it's not code ? 19.37.25 # yup, or at least i assumed that because it's after the function return and before the literal pool 19.38.06 # the literal pool does not need to be close to the code 19.38.37 # so it might be code, or some data related to some code you haven't yet disassemble 19.38.50 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@f053155120.adsl.alicedsl.de) 19.39.23 # gcc usually puts the literal pool right after the function 19.39.30 # Torne: I'm not sure I understand the problem with non-linear history? 19.40.39 Quit bertrik (Read error: Connection timed out) 19.41.12 # TheLemonMan: but it's might not be gcc which compiled the code 19.41.16 # *it 19.41.26 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 19.41.26 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 19.41.26 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 19.41.27 # anyway, I'm pretty sure there is nothing useless in this rom 19.42.04 # so that 0xBE streak in the middle of it has a purpose ? 19.42.04 # but it uses a lot of pointers to function which is a pain 19.42.38 # not the part filled with 0xBE but apart from this, I can't see what you are talking about 19.42.49 # bah, I don't even know what the issue with git linear or non-linear history, let alone have an opinion about it 19.43.01 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54B6608A.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.43.29 # amiconn: yes? 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19.58.28 # <[Saint]> ..it's an *archive*, if "archive" == .zip 19.58.44 # pamaury: it is but it doesn't matter 19.58.55 # * pamaury denies any knowledge 20.00.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.02.32 Join ukleinek [0] (~ukl@octopus.hi.pengutronix.de) 20.04.08 # kugel: in general I would say you're right. in this particular case I think we should keep it as it is quite helpful even though it is not in svn (and not in a state to be submitted) 20.04.29 # it should be hosted somewhere else then 20.05.40 # <[Saint]> I think this needs a clear "if it hasn't been touched in " timeline. 20.06.20 # <[Saint]> as all he really needs to do is say that he's getting around to maintaining it, but gets in the way. 20.06.36 # ? 20.06.48 # r29977 is causing the make apk problem 20.06.58 # <[Saint]> real life...impending doom, other? I dunno. 20.07.24 Quit ukleinek (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 20.07.35 # Zagor (logs): make apk now causes rockbox.zip to be copied to libmisc.so which is annoying 20.10.58 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4D4C6.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.12.48 # <[Saint]> anyway, yeah...I think a "if a patch hasn't been touched in , consider it dead" rule to help clean up Flyspray. 20.12.59 # <[Saint]> Something that can be agreed upon. 20.13.32 # <[Saint]> *s/I think a/I think there should be a/ 20.14.08 # [Saint]: won't happen. 20.14.17 # We'll close the patch part of flyspray instead :) 20.14.54 # <[Saint]> well, that certainly fixes the issue ;) 20.14.59 Quit merbanan (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 20.15.22 # That's actually part of what this gerrit stuff is about 20.19.09 # <[Saint]> without *truly* understanding gerrit...doesn't that kinda remove the ability for "John Everyman" to post patches for review by limiting the way he can do so? 20.19.25 # <[Saint]> I mean, to even push for review you need an ssh account/git no? 20.19.52 # No, if I understood things correctly 20.20.15 # yes 20.20.19 # but you can just create one yourself 20.20.22 # <[Saint]> Aha. 20.20.26 # <[Saint]> Hmmm. :-S 20.20.42 # also nothing stops you sending a regular patch to rockbox-dev 20.20.42 # <[Saint]> Oh, anti=Hmmmm :-S 20.20.44 # Torne: can we ban [Saint] from it at least? ;) 20.21.13 # [Saint]: the argument against flyspray in general is it's a crap way to read/compare/comment on patches 20.21.33 # you have neither any clear separation of versions of the patch, nor any threading that might help :) 20.21.57 # <[Saint]> it's one saving grace is the ease of use. 20.22.06 # it's not particularly easy to use 20.22.15 # and you have to create an account 20.22.19 # including password and email verification and stuff 20.22.52 # <[Saint]> and...gerrit *doesn't* have those things? 20.22.57 # nope :) 20.23.02 # is that gerrit thingy already up for playing around with it? 20.23.08 # bluebroth3r: er, yes, just about 20.23.14 # <[Saint]> so, technically bots could spam bs to it for review? 20.23.15 # I was about to start writing a little trial guide for it 20.23.22 # bluebroth3r: give me a bit :) 20.23.26 # ok, nice :) 20.23.34 # it doesn't have the rockbox history in it though 20.23.36 # yet 20.23.44 # i will do that soon, but am still waiting for more emails before i give up, for now ;) 20.23.49 # for playing around with it that shouldn't hurt 20.23.53 # i made a sandbox repo instead and committed some random crap 20.24.05 # [Saint]: not particularly easily, no 20.24.08 # you crap committer! :P 20.24.13 # [Saint]: it authenticates with OpenID 20.24.29 # <[Saint]> Ah, right...so there's *some* authentication. 20.24.38 # yes, but it's for an account that virtually everyone already has ;) 20.25.13 # <[Saint]> no "blatant asshole protection" bother me a little, but, you never know if you don't try right? 20.25.24 # [Saint]: you can opt to only allow/trust certain openid providers 20.25.36 # people you know have decent bot protection etc 20.25.43 # e.g. google, yahoo 20.25.53 # oh, the irc reader doesn't recognize my secondary nick as Rockbox nick? 20.26.38 # [Saint]: the chance of anyone inventing a system to spam gerrit repositories by running a fake openid provider and logging in to them, adding ssh keys, and then connecting to them over ssh to push proposed changes over git, is pretty minimal 20.26.45 # :) 20.28.10 # if they were motivated to do that they would probably also be signing up to rockbox-{dev,users} and spamming that 20.28.13 # which would be easier ;) 20.28.32 # * [Saint] has a LOT of gerrit-related crap to read up on. 20.28.37 # anyway. 20.28.45 # the process is not significantly more difficult, i don't think 20.29.12 Quit HaimN (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 20.29.26 # instead of svn checkout, edit files, svn diff, manually upload to flyspray with browser, you git clone, edit files, git commit, git push origin HEAD:refs/for/master 20.29.38 Join HaimN [0] (~quassel@95.86.78.134) 20.29.57 # getting set up is marginally more complicated because you are expected to provide an ssh key 20.30.16 # but if you don't know how that works you can ask gerrit to make you a password and use that 20.30.17 Nick bluebroth3r is now known as bluebrother (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 20.30.48 # <[Saint]> I'm not worried for myself..I mean, I'll figure it out when I need to. It's the odd gem that shows up on Flyspray out-of-the-blue from a user that comes and goes just as easily I worry about. Someone that might decide it's not worth the effort to go through this becuase they don't plan to be around in the future/whatever. 20.31.26 # few patches are okay when that happens the first time 20.31.45 # the ones you were suggesting closing with no activity for a long time would be mostly those ones ;) 20.31.50 # [Saint]: those patches are welcome on the mailing list then I'd say 20.31.54 # or ones where people haven't bothered to give their real name 20.32.26 Join promyloph [0] (~foo@unaffiliated/promyloph) 20.32.46 # [Saint]: you have to be able to at least use the most basic git commands to produce a patch at all, because we don't provide source tarballs ;) 20.33.14 # so getting a clone and updating it requires that you have a vague idea 20.33.23 # Torne: Why no source tarballs? 20.33.34 # <[Saint]> Yeah, sure. In truth I'm neither for or against it. I just wanted to hash it out from the viewpoint of making it as easy as possible for new contributers. 20.33.43 # what's the point of source tarballs (except for releases)? 20.33.47 # [Saint]: well when i post the instructions you are welcome to try it 20.34.00 # source tarballs are a waste of bandwidth/time for both parties 20.34.15 Join merbanan [0] (~banan@c-94-255-222-82.cust.bredband2.com) 20.34.19 # virtually nobody who has any use for the source will only ever have *one version* of it 20.34.32 # the version control system gives you every version, much quicker and more cheaply :) 20.35.12 # dan_a: we stopped those a while ago. I can't remember the exact reasons 20.36.28 # gevaerts, Torne: Ah, thank you. 20.39.15 # [Saint]: While being easy for new people is important, being easy for committers is important too - otherwise nobody will comment/review 20.39.33 # I think the combination of this + accepting patches on the mailing list should cater for most 20.40.09 # Torne: Are we going to try to synchronise the switch with the release? 20.40.18 # AlexP: i don't see any reason to bother 20.40.19 # As in when we branch for release shut svn trunk 20.40.28 # Naw, that doesn't help 20.40.33 # <[Saint]> Yeah, truth be told I was sold as soon as I saw that the odd "one-off" would be accepted on the ml...just wanted to hash it ot in case there was yet another side I wasn't seeing. 20.40.33 # OK 20.40.39 # the git repo will contain all branches, not just trunk 20.40.41 # I don't care myself :) 20.40.46 # because it's easy, so it might as well 20.41.00 Join kramer3d [0] (~kramer@ip98-169-194-252.dc.dc.cox.net) 20.41.00 Quit kramer3d (Changing host) 20.41.00 Join kramer3d [0] (~kramer@unaffiliated/kramer3d) 20.41.07 # we'll just do it some time after the release when all the open questions are resolved :) 20.41.12 # [Saint]: More than one offs, I think people can do it as the prefer 20.41.17 # Sounds good 20.41.49 # well, and once it's hosted somewhere on rockbox.org 20.41.54 # the machine i'm using atm is temporary 20.43.38 # [Saint]: the big thing personally i like is that if some random person who isn't a committer posts something on gerrit I can merge it into trunk in ten seconds if it's good, without needing to touch my local copy of the code ;) 20.43.54 # [Saint]: and if it needs changes i can place comments on individual lines of the diff, and see the full context of the entire file at will 20.44.23 # From the brief look I had at gerrit at devcon it looked useful 20.44.36 # I'm looking forward to the cheat sheet :) 20.44.43 # right :) 20.44.44 # * [Saint] too 20.45.00 # * [Saint] finds a pointier stick for Torne-poking ;D 20.45.30 # Torne: It is like all the git stuff - when you explained it I followed and it seemed sensible, but I'll be buggered if I can remember it now :) 20.49.19 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 20.49.28 Quit merbanan (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 21.01.24 Join jae [0] (~jae@dedicated.jaerhard.com) 21.13.47 Quit [Saint] (Quit: Imagination is for turbo-nerds who can't handle how kick-butt reality is. I'm a kick-butt reality master! I would rather die, than be imaginative. I mean that.) 21.14.01 Join Buschel_ [0] (~chatzilla@p54B6608A.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.16.59 Quit Buschel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.16.59 Nick Buschel_ is now known as Buschel (~chatzilla@p54B6608A.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.19.23 Quit stripwax (Quit: http://miranda-im.org) 21.29.51 # Torne: will we see the gerrit demo today? 21.30.11 # kugel: i'm writing the guide for it now 21.30.16 # cool 21.30.26 # "today" in which timezone? ;-) 21.32.07 Quit Buschel (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 3.6.17/20110420140830]) 21.35.24 # bluebrother, what needs to be done to release a new AMSv2 bootloader? 21.35.47 Join evilnick_ [0] (~evilnick@ool-18bee3a9.dyn.optonline.net) 21.38.03 Quit ChickeNES (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 21.38.34 Quit evilnick (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 21.38.47 Nick evilnick_ is now known as evilnick (~evilnick@ool-18bee3a9.dyn.optonline.net) 21.39.03 Quit evilnick (Changing host) 21.39.04 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 21.42.32 # bertrik: no idea, I was never involved with those. For Rockbox Utility it should be sufficient to push new files to the download server (unless mkamsboot needs changes) 21.43.12 # what's the difference between h300 LCD remote and h100 LCD remote? Only the case or does it also differ in number / naming of buttons? 21.44.17 # bluebrother, I can compile a clean SVN bootloader, but I don't know how to push this to the download server. Who would know the procedure? 21.44.45 # bertrik: I think funman did the previous releases. As for pushing files just ping Bagder 21.45.02 # and since I don't have any AMSv2 device I can't test anything 21.46.49 Join ukleinek [0] (~ukl@octopus.hi.pengutronix.de) 21.47.10 # hm, I can only test clip+, not clipv2 or fuzev2 21.49.25 Join mshaxp [0] (~athlonmpp@5ad7b04e.bb.sky.com) 21.51.07 # Bagder: Is there an ETA for fixing the downloads and the delta table? 21.52.56 # * amiconn is kinda annoyed that the delta table seems to like breaking when there are potentially interesting deltas 21.52.59 Quit mshathlonxp (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.53.24 # This time: removal of track number guessing 21.57.24 # Anybody around with an archos who can test a build for me? I had to cludge binutils a bit to get it to build, and I'd like to check the builds I'm producing work 22.00.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.01.18 # AlexP: what archos? I have an Ondio SP 22.01.37 # bluebrother: any, it was the sh toolchain I had problems with 22.01.48 # I'll do an SP build if you wouldn't mind :) 22.01.56 # sure 22.02.09 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@207-144-19-39.cstel.net) 22.02.17 # cheers 22.03.10 # anyone with a h300 LCD remote around? I'd like to get FS#8569 some testers (and hopefully closed again soon) 22.03.11 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/8569 3Iriver remote keymap changes (patches, new) 22.03.37 # not that I'm too interested in that change but we really should try to get the number of open patches down. 22.06.28 # bluebrother: http://aeparker.com/files/rockbox.zip 22.06.30 # how about some "patches of the week"? Post some (older) patches to the ML and ask people to test / comment on them? 22.06.50 # Worth a go 22.06.58 # Someone would have to check they build etc. fist though 22.07.27 # I wasn't thinking about users, rather point developers to it to hopefully get more attention 22.07.36 # for maybe 10 patches out of different areas? 22.07.45 # yeah, but even then :) 22.09.39 # that build is r29993,right? 22.09.56 # playback works, voice too. So I guess everything is fine. 22.13.48 # great, thanks 22.14.31 # this is good to know 22.16.22 # AlexP: I just checked your build against one I made here for the same revision 22.17.07 # gevaerts: anything interesting? 22.17.25 # Three files differ: rockbox-info.txt (it has the host gcc version), ajbrec.ajz and rockbox.ucl 22.17.48 # would the latter two be expected to? 22.17.57 # Not sure actually 22.18.10 # What does md5sum rockbox.bin give you? 22.18.42 # I believe those two are compressed 22.18.42 # 9df8b77b2549330ee02aba4229e3b172 22.18.50 # hm, different from mine 22.19.05 # So obviously compressed/repacked versions are also different 22.19.26 # maybe compare against a version from the server? 22.19.49 # I can't as it wouldn't tell us anything :) 22.20.46 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 22.20.54 # I wouldn't trust server binaries right now 22.21.05 # Can you upload your rockbox.bin and rockbox.elf? 22.21.12 # sure, one mo 22.22.42 Quit HaimN (Remote host closed the connection) 22.22.59 # gevaerts: http://aeparker.com/files/rockbox.bin and http://aeparker.com/files/rockbox.elf 22.23.08 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 22.23.52 Part Judas_PhD 22.25.07 # oh 22.25.53 # OK, I've done some of the Gerrit demo guide 22.25.55 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/GerritDemoGuide 22.26.08 # Please let me know if anything is really unclear or doesn't work 22.26.24 # The instructions are not yet complete (i haven't covered all topics) but it should be enought o get started and have a fiddle with it 22.27.34 # Torne: wow, good work :) 22.27.39 # * AlexP will have a peruse 22.28.04 # i'm going for now, which is why i'm posting it as-is ;) 22.29.33 # AlexP: after correcting for some differences caused by you using git, they match 22.29.45 # hehe, good work :) 22.29.55 # Thanks very much for taking the time 22.30.08 # The scrobbler output has the svn revision, which is empty for you apparently 22.30.58 # So I had to patch that out, after which it was different again due to me now having 29993M instead of 29993. After fixing that, ajbrec.ajz is exactly the same 22.32.01 # I admire the dedication :) 22.32.42 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 22.32.42 # It's not *that* much work! 22.32.54 # And all plugins were the same, so it had to be something like this 22.33.09 # well, I'm glad it works anyway 22.33.37 Quit promyloph (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5) 22.34.05 # hmm, registering with gerrit seems to have ignored my real name, needed to set that in the settings afterwards 22.35.48 # Torne: I can't seem to use my google account 22.36.13 # nvm, works now 22.36.24 # if i understand this correctly, with garret you can push a patch for review without actually having commit access? 22.36.36 # saratoga: yes 22.36.50 # saratoga: And then if all is immediately good, a committer can just click merge 22.36.52 # who do you register with ? 22.36.53 # and it does it 22.37.08 # Or you can have multiple reviews there, then he can finally press merge 22.37.16 # oh i guess you register with the web app 22.37.18 # Or download it to local tree or whatever etc. etc. 22.42.27 Quit stripwax (Quit: http://miranda-im.org) 22.45.22 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 22.51.13 Nick kramer3d is now known as d3remark (~kramer@unaffiliated/kramer3d) 22.52.22 # I might note that git-config has to have the email registered with gerrit, but you can override the global config per repo (in .git/config) 22.52.51 # Torne: how do patches go to "Abandoned" 22.52.53 # ? 22.54.28 Join xeniter [0] (~xeniter@cpe90-146-47-34.liwest.at) 22.55.17 # hmm, how can I do a review? Do I need to add myself as reviewer first? 22.55.56 # I don't think so 22.56.18 # * bluebrother tries 22.56.22 # Just pick a patch and click review 22.56.41 # ah, found the review button :) 22.57.14 # Or look at the diff and click on it in random places 22.57.34 # If you double-click on a lone you'll get a text box 22.59.00 # * gevaerts likes the thing in general, but he obviously can't say yet that nothing in it will annoy him :) 22.59.28 # oh my patch set conflicts, lets see how to resolve 22.59.45 # hmm, got and application error but it still shows the comment 23.01.59 # Torne: where should I push the resolved change to? 23.02.26 # kugel: commit --amend? 23.02.55 # gevaerts: I have fixed it locally, but I need to push another patch set, I think 23.07.18 # FWIW, git push origin HEAD:refs/changes/X to update tracker items 23.07.39 # where X the number found in the URL 23.09.10 # * bluebrother just managed to push a review :) 23.10.45 Join boghog [0] (~aphax@2001:980:34c7:0:1e6f:65ff:fe86:1e03) 23.11.31 Join {phoenix} [0] (~dirk@p5DF2DA05.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.13.38 # bluebrother: "diff all unified" for your task crashes my browser 23.14.56 # Oh, it tries to open seven thousand tabs apparently 23.16.06 # kugel: maybe that task is a bit large then :) 23.16.15 # Which is a bit annoying. I like a patch to be in one file sometimes 23.16.37 # 542 files changed is a bit :) 23.17.32 # gevaerts: indeed, in fact I expected to get 1 file by clicking that 23.18.21 # but looking at patches is a lot nicer than on flyspray 23.18.39 # * gevaerts agrees 23.18.41 # urgh, diff all unified is really not really a good idea on that change 23.18.55 # It doesn't crash *my* browser :) 23.19.34 # I killed the browser before that could happen :) 23.19.40 # side-by-side diff is what viewvc had for reviewing post-commit :) 23.21.12 # I have trouble unpacking bug2000's .lzo file attached to FS#12129 . My distro seems to provide a shared library, but no binary for accessing this file type. Which program should I use? 23.21.12 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12129 3Duplicate database entries (bugs, unconfirmed) 23.21.33 Quit xeniter (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 23.23.10 # * bluebrother tries inviting some random people to review the patch 23.23.37 # sideral: lzop should do it, although I'd shout and ask for standard files 23.24.04 # ah, it sends out mails on reviews. Nice 23.24.51 # gevaerts: sideral: for some reason he chose an obscure format deliberately 23.24.58 # i told hin to use zip 23.25.01 # him 23.25.15 # bluebrother: heh, you asked me to review? 23.25.26 # didn't someone earlier say something among "any format will do"? 23.25.28 # kugel: why not? 23.25.50 # just picked some random people I figured having an account already :) 23.26.07 # nice that this is possible 23.26.22 # n1s: Maybe bug2000's "zip" binary generates this crap format. you never know what's en vogue in the Windows lands these days 23.26.54 Join xeniter [0] (~xeniter@cpe90-146-47-34.liwest.at) 23.27.17 # * sideral is willing to assume innocent ignorance 23.27.17 # sideral: no i'm pretty sure it was done on purpose, you can find the discussion in the logs from this morning if you want to read for yourself 23.27.54 # http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20110612#10:36:48 23.28.08 # oh, seems I committed a change :o 23.28.32 # * bluebrother starts to like this 23.28.48 # bluebrother: I "submitted" your patch 23.29.21 # I'd like an easy way to see who pushed the button though 23.30.00 # you see that in the git log 23.30.17 # though I was a bit confused what "submit" actually does. 23.30.43 # How? 23.32.11 # gevaerts: git log --format=full 23.33.26 # Ah, ok 23.33.38 # or use gitk 23.34.03 # right, that's the other option 23.34.18 Quit xeniter (Read error: Operation timed out) 23.35.07 # This is just me not knowing git properly yet of course 23.35.36 # with --format=full it doesn't show the date anymore" 23.35.37 # hmm, is there a way to finally reject a patch? 23.35.40 # tips: add custom aliases in ~/.gitconfig to get handy shortcut commands for your favourites 23.35.42 Join [Saint] [0] (~st.lasciv@124-197-3-117.callplus.net.nz) 23.35.48 # bluebrother: clock "Abandon Change" 23.35.50 # click* 23.36.01 # kugel: oh, right. --format=fuller does 23.36.12 # fuller than full? 23.36.25 # sure :) 23.36.31 # Bagder: and spread confusion by then forgetting that they're your own aliases and using them in instructions :) 23.37.16 # yes! 23.37.23 # * Bagder uses "git up" all the time =) 23.37.31 # * kugel too :) 23.38.01 # kugel: You shouldn't have to push to refs/changes to update the review 23.38.10 # how else? 23.38.29 Quit petur (Quit: Leaving) 23.38.49 # the commit message hook that the instructions told you to instal takes care of it 23.39.00 # you just amend your existing commit and push to refs/for/master again 23.39.11 # It notices the Change-Id: line is the same and puts it on the right one 23.39.28 # "you are not allowed to upload merges"? 23.39.52 # No. 23.39.56 # Torne: the way I did also worked apparently 23.40.02 # kugel: yes, that does work 23.40.15 # but you don't need to know the change number this way 23.40.37 # bluebrother: currently gerrit is set up to refuse merge commits in order to keep history linear 23.40.41 # bluebrother: rebase instead of merging. 23.41.00 # when you submit in gerrit, instead of pushing directly, it cherrypicks the change so you don't have to rebase as long as there are no conflicts. 23.42.41 # Torne: nope, it opens a new task always 23.42.55 # kugel: Then you haven't installed the hook properly 23.43.05 # your changes don't have a Change-Id line 23.43.09 # so, obviously not ;) 23.43.47 # see http://porpoise-248.dolphin-server.co.uk:8080/#change,3 for what it should look like ;) 23.44.05 # Torne: the Change-Id does force using one branch per feature a bit I think 23.44.19 # that is generally the intended way to use it 23.44.23 # Yes, I know 23.44.28 # it doesn't really force it though 23.44.39 # it's just generated the first time you commit something 23.45.12 # Well, it really only "advises" it for changes that have to go through the review system anyway 23.45.39 # Torne: still not doing it right.. 23.46.05 # Can you do the amend thing on something that's not the latest commit in your current branch? 23.46.14 # gevaerts: no 23.46.14 # hmm. I've rebased master but still cannot commit -- "change 5 closed" 23.46.32 # gevaerts: you can do it with rebase 23.46.49 # kugel: you did run the scp to get the hook? :) 23.46.53 # yes 23.46.56 # look at .git/hooks/commit-msg 23.47.01 # must be executable 23.47.14 # it is 23.47.26 # wait, are you still amending an existing commit? 23.47.32 # it only inserts it on new commits 23.48.10 # if you want to match it up to something already in the DB that didn't have one you need to copypaste the commit id from the gerrit page 23.48.41 # kugel: you're not going to be able to change a patch that's past the review stage 23.49.02 # Change 5 has been committed to master 23.49.18 # I'm not trying on 5 :) 23.49.20 Join xeniter [0] (~xeniter@85-126-127-58.static.xdsl-line.inode.at) 23.49.28 # see tasks 8+ 23.49.30 # :) 23.49.48 # kugel: does the commit have a change id line on your local branch? 23.49.52 # no 23.50.09 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: The quality of my life is going straight up now that i have a shotgun.) 23.50.16 # and you installe hte hook first before any commits? 23.50.28 # pretty sure I did, yes 23.50.31 # hmm, I still can't get it to push. Still change 5 that breaks 23.50.39 # kugel: well other people's work 23.50.44 # bluebrother: what're you trying to do? 23.51.04 # bluebrother: are you pushing something you reviewed earlier? 23.51.48 # gevaerts: not sure. 23.51.56 # Torne: I suspect we may want to keep the sandbox around :) 23.52.02 # I've resetted my repo to some time earlier and pulled, now it works 23.52.03 # gevaerts: i was intendin gto :) 23.52.07 # why doesn't it work for me? :( 23.52.40 # kugel: don't know i'm afraid 23.52.44 # it appears to be working for everyone else :) 23.52.46 # ohh 23.52.53 # * kugel has an idea 23.53.03 # I have the clone on /tmp which is mounted noexec :) 23.53.20 # That's probably a problem, yes ;) 23.53.44 # ahh now it works 23.53.59 # and it does add change id on --amend 23.54.14 # Oh, maybe it just adds it if it doesn't have one 23.54.20 # fair enough 23.54.23 # so, all commits get this change-id whether they're put to gerrit or not? 23.54.28 # Yes 23.54.44 # my general thought: who cares 23.54.45 # Well, they're supposed to all go through gerrit at some point 23.55.01 # what? no 23.55.11 # lots of people use git in ways that adds lots of trailing lines (signed-off-by, etc) 23.55.19 # hm, right 23.55.42 # anyway. the hook *is* optional 23.55.46 # kugel: you can use a different checkout to work in your in-progress branches if you like :) 23.55.50 # hm, I'd rather not have change-id for direct pushes 23.56.00 # Why? 23.56.00 # kugel: that seems weird/arbitrary 23.56.13 # well, I don't feel strong anyway, but it's ugly :) 23.56.15 # If some changes are going to have it, why not all? 23.57.07 # The header-line-at-the-bottom format is kinda standard in git at this point 23.57.29 # * Torne shrugs. 23.57.33 # You don't have to include it :) 23.57.43 # you can push to refs/changes to update a change 23.57.56 # it's just less mistake-prone to have the hook do it