--- Log for 22.06.111 Server: card.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 20 days and 22 hours ago 00.04.18 # New commit by 03gevaerts (r30049): Workaround/fix (I'm not sure!) for buffer_alloc() returning unaligned addresses in case other parts of the code increase audiobuf behind buffer.c's ... 00.04.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.05.01 # kugel: have a look at r30049. I'm not sure if this should stay forever, or if it's only a temporary fix until everything uses buffer_alloc() 00.08.27 # r30049 build result: All green 00.08.45 # Espreon: that should fix current builds for you as well 00.08.56 # hobby16: Hmm, odd 00.10.26 Quit TheSeven (Remote host closed the connection) 00.14.16 Quit ReimuHakurei (Quit: If I use this, I will disappear, and Shana-tan will remain...) 00.14.26 Join ReimuHakurei [0] (~reimu@74.112.212.15) 00.14.50 # gevaerts: OK, I'll check it out soon. 00.15.44 Part timccc 00.16.06 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 00.16.33 Quit TheSeven (Remote host closed the connection) 00.21.50 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 00.22.43 # Slasheri: OK, it doesn't seem to be r30047 that's causing the tagnavi_custom regression. 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I mean that.) 08.11.47 Join user829385 [0] (~aoeu@112.166.15.141) 08.12.02 Part user829385 08.12.14 Quit Buschel (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 3.6.18/20110614230723]) 08.16.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.21.01 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@87-206-240-131.dynamic.chello.pl) 08.22.29 Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 08.22.46 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 08.24.45 Join Guest28580 [242] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 08.25.01 Nick Guest28580 is now known as Zagor (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 08.36.26 Join factor [0] (~factor@74.197.205.204) 08.37.30 Quit ReimuHakurei (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.37.33 Join ReimuHakurei_ [0] (~reimu@74.112.212.15) 08.39.57 # Slasheri: seen my notes from last night? 08.48.07 Quit guymann (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 08.49.22 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 08.52.53 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 08.53.04 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 08.53.46 # sideral: just checking my away log. good that you found out there was a problem reading tagnavi_custom, i will fix that. Hmm, playlist should recover dircache pointers automatically, but it can take something like 10s. Did you wait long enough? 08.56.15 # Slasheri: I think so. But this is the DB browser generating disk traffic, not the playlist screen 08.58.33 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.58.59 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 08.59.44 # sideral: but you wait until disk spun down? 09.00.58 # Slasheri: I have no hard drive, only flash (this is a Clip+). The only indication of "disk" activity I have is the status-bar disk-access indicator 09.01.15 # ok, and all disk activity ceased? 09.01.21 # yep 09.01.48 # interesting.. you could still browse files without any disk activity? 09.02.12 # in the file browser you mean? good question, didn't check 09.02.18 # yep 09.02.39 # that should verify that the dircache really is operating 09.04.35 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09.04.37 # Right now I cannot reproduce this with a quick check, but I haven't tried my full routine of player sync + DB update yet. It's probably best to ignore this for now until I come up with a better bug report :) 09.04.52 # :) 09.05.02 # File browsing won't cause disk access even without dircache as long as you stay in one dir 09.05.32 # amiconn: actually i meant switching between dirs.. i should be more clear :) 09.05.37 # sure, I'll remember to browse across multiple dirs 09.06.19 # Atm I'm not sure whether having talk clips enabled will cause extra disk accesses even within a dir 09.06.43 # Iirc it caches the presence (or absence) of .talk clips and only accesses the disk when there is one 09.09.23 Quit balintx (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09.11.47 Join antil33t [0] (~antil33t@124-197-33-15.callplus.net.nz) 09.12.31 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 09.25.34 Join ChickeNES [0] (~ChickeNES@99-133-145-177.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) 09.29.01 Quit sasquatch (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2) 09.29.05 Quit Scromple_ (Quit: Gone) 09.29.25 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@p4FF2DF59.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.32.49 Quit Xerion (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.35.21 Join Xerion_ [0] (~xerion@5419A766.cm-5-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) 09.35.22 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10.02.05 Quit wtachi (Quit: &) 10.06.34 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 10.09.08 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@g231233004.adsl.alicedsl.de) 10.09.09 Quit kugel (Changing host) 10.09.09 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 10.10.34 Quit mc2739 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10.15.23 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 10.16.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.17.58 Quit ChickeNES (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 10.19.04 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~PurlingNa@113.97.120.16) 10.20.12 # Hi everyone! I' Chinese and I want to know if Rockbox can only decode sound into PCM? Thanks. 10.21.22 Join ReimuHakurei [0] (~reimu@74.112.212.15) 10.23.03 # PurlingNayuki: rockbox decodes to the format the hardware uses, which is usually pcm yes 10.24.19 Quit ReimuHakurei_ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 10.24.44 # Zagor: Thanks. Can Rockbox decode sound into other format if I use some specified DAC? 10.29.02 # only if we support the DAC in question, and we only support the ones used in players we list on the rockbox.org home page. 10.31.29 # That's OK. I will programme to support the DAC I use. 10.31.31 # If the DAC I use is supported, Rockbox can decode the sound not only into PCM but also into the format the DAC uses, can't it? 10.31.57 # PurlingNayuki: if your player is supported, then Rockbox will play sound on it, yes 10.32.18 # Thanks. 10.32.22 # are you actually having a DAC that doesn't use some sort of PCM format? 10.32.42 # Well, yes. 10.32.56 # My board is based on Mini2440. 10.33.12 # But I added some special chips on it. 10.34.56 # Some other questions, I wonder wether Rockbox have a function book besides the one on Rockbox.org. 10.35.05 # Maybe a pdf file? 10.36.44 # if you mean an API guide, then no. 10.37.13 # What a pity. 10.37.50 # Maybe I'll write one through the API guide on Rockbox.org. 10.39.00 # Thanks. 10.39.07 Quit mudd1 (Quit: Ex-Chat) 10.41.45 # gevaerts: don't like the ALIGN_UP macro? :) 10.42.18 # kugel: that particular file uses another style :) 10.42.39 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@87-206-240-131.dynamic.chello.pl) 10.45.25 Quit pjm0616 (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 10.45.59 Part PurlingNayuki 10.46.21 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~PurlingNa@113.97.120.16) 10.53.59 # Slasheri: I can replicate the crash on the sim I thin 10.54.44 # somehow the string gets assigned to the d_name member, not the pointer to the string 10.56.55 Join pjm0616 [0] (~user@114.200.203.101) 11.00.14 # kugel: anyway, do you think my analysis was correct? 11.00.40 # kugel: great! 11.00.42 # yea, probably, I just don't know what exposed this 11.00.57 # Slasheri: I can't see where this happens, though 11.01.06 # kugel: well, i have no idea :) 11.02.00 # Slasheri: http://pastie.org/2105407 11.03.08 # 0x622e6365646f63 == "codec.b" 11.04.44 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 11.07.19 # kugel: at least tagcache uses heavily those dircache pointers to locate a filename 11.09.45 Quit PurlingNayuki (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11.12.20 # kugel: and of course when restoring tagcache from a hibernated state, it has those old dircache pointers (assuming those are correct because dircache has also been restored from a state file) 11.12.31 Quit sideral (Quit: Leaving.) 11.12.45 # it now has indices instead of pointers, that should just work 11.13.03 # kugel: those old indices are still valid? 11.13.08 # even if dircache has been relocated? 11.13.10 # sure 11.13.19 # ok, then there should be no problems 11.13.28 # that's the whole point of using the indices :) 11.13.44 # :) 11.14.17 # but it seems to be an error on the tagcache side, the d_names are definitely sane after relocating 11.14.28 # * kugel just printed them all 11.14.38 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~PurlingNa@113.97.120.16) 11.15.58 Join balintx [0] (~quassel@szerver1.gulyasp-koll.sulinet.hu) 11.18.07 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 11.28.05 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 11.33.07 # Slasheri: I think I see what happens 11.33.59 # Slasheri: it looks like dircache_root is being changed after loading the dircache 11.34.05 # (the stat file I mean) 11.35.27 Join kevku [0] (x@altair.raylworks.co.cc) 11.35.34 # the new dircache_root is then pointing to the d_names area, and then next, up and down are wrong 11.37.18 # hm no 11.45.40 # Slasheri: oh! this is strange. the next and d_name pointer get swapped 12.02.51 # this is completely fucked up 12.10.46 Join kugel_ [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 12.13.22 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 12.16.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.18.29 Nick kugel_ is now known as kugel (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 12.25.37 Quit PurlingNayuki (Quit: PurlingNayuki) 12.26.01 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~PurlingNa@113.97.120.16) 12.26.24 Part PurlingNayuki 12.35.14 # Slasheri: the relocation is wrong 12.35.19 # I don't see where though 12.35.35 # dircache_root[0].next is already completely wrong 12.48.30 # kugel: nice that you found something! 12.48.47 # but that's about it 12.49.06 # but would that fix the problem? 12.49.19 # "that"? 12.49.46 # fixing that wrong pointer 12.50.01 # I don't see why it's wrong or how to get it right :) 12.50.06 # ah, ok :) 13.03.18 Join shai [0] (~Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 13.12.33 Quit antil33t () 13.14.59 Quit user890104 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13.24.42 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 13.30.37 Join dfkt|n [0] (~dfkt@chello062178002170.1.11.univie.teleweb.at) 13.30.37 Quit dfkt|n (Changing host) 13.30.37 Join dfkt|n [0] (~dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 13.44.50 # * amiconn would like to see a notification mechanism that makes a build client tell why it doesn't participate in a round although it's connected 13.45.38 # That dreaded 'svn is locked' is still happening sometimes (just fixed it on one of my clients) 13.48.57 # Zagor: the build log shows the build command, without any -j parameter 13.50.02 # is that correct? 14.05.17 Join user890104 [0] (~Venci@6bez10.info) 14.08.36 # Slasheri: I figured the problem out 14.14.52 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 14.15.59 # Slasheri: try http://pastie.org/2106019 please 14.16.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.20.39 # kugel: yes, the -j parameter is set in the MAKEFLAGS environment variable by each rbclient 14.21.20 # amiconn: would piping the svn output to the logfile be enough? 14.22.11 # actually, there should already be a "*** Subversion error!" line in the logfile 14.22.14 # Zagor: ok, the android build on my client just seemed slow :) 14.40.54 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 14.42.56 Join evilnick_B [0] (0c140464@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 14.53.14 # Slasheri: http://pastie.org/2106156 should work for real 14.55.11 # Zagor: "*** Subversion error!" is there, but who's checking the logfile every time the client has zero builds? 14.55.21 # If it's a slow client, it might have another cause 14.55.44 # very true. how do you propose a better notification system would work? 14.55.52 # I'd prefer some kind of notification (that could probably be achieved by watching the logfile somehow...) 14.56.07 # Zagor: btw, you re-introduced that make apk executes make zip. very annoying 14.56.52 # yes, I wanted to be able to build the apk with a single make line 14.57.15 # you could easily do a make zipapk instead 14.57.50 # make zip now always makes everything? 14.57.51 # I rather suggest you do a nozipapk 14.58.06 # we intentionally didn't avoided that (in the past) 14.58.08 # make is supposed to build all prerequisites 14.58.34 # nozipapk isn't easily possible, the other way around is way easier 14.58.58 # I meant we intentionally avoided that 14.59.24 # why did you do that without communicating it? 14.59.50 # it's debatable whether codecs&plugins are a prerequisite for zip 14.59.59 # uh what? 15.00.02 # of course they are 15.00.21 # 'make zip' is not supposed to make all prerequisites though 15.00.23 # the zip includes everything 15.00.45 # This is because otherwise you can't 'make zip' if the build failed partially 15.01.08 # Very annoying when working on a new port... 15.01.21 # yes you can. make -k zip 15.01.32 # it's _very_ annoying to rebuild all the plugins&codecs (and on android extacting the zip) if you know only the core is touched by the changes 15.02.07 # if the codec and plugins are rebuilt unnecessarily, there is something wrong with the dependencies 15.02.32 # they all depend on config.h 15.02.35 # (for example) 15.03.36 # dependencies are also created indirectly, by header including other headers, very often the object isn't actually dependant 15.04.15 # so this isn't about zip at all. you're complaining about we having proper dependencies? 15.04.25 # my point is, it's making the life harder for developers who know what they do 15.04.44 # you are wrong 15.04.57 # I'm not wrong 15.05.44 # claiming that dependencies are uncessary "for developers who know what they do" is definitely wrong 15.05.46 # it's also about zip because it extracts on android just for the changed timestamps by copying, even if the codecs aren't recompiled at all 15.06.06 # Zagor: this is *not* what I said 15.06.26 # what are you saying then? 15.06.38 # it's making the life harder for developers who know what they do 15.07.19 # ok, I'll rephrase: claiming that dependencies are making life harder "for developers who know what they do" is definitely wrong 15.07.30 # I don't want to constantly recompile codecs and plugins and extract the zip just because I changed some unrelated file 15.07.57 # also copying over the codecs on android has nothing to do with dependencies, it's done always during make zip whether they changed or not 15.07.59 # I know we don't like recursive makefiles, but maybe zip and apk could do things like " -make" in the zip target? 15.08.16 # * linuxstb agrees that full dependency checking is "the right thing", but also that sometimes a dev may want to override it.... 15.08.33 # That would solve the "build fails but I want a zip anyway" case 15.08.55 # I don't care about failed builds 15.09.16 # gevaerts: what's wrong with -k ? 15.09.19 # I care about wasting time by waiting for recompilation and installation/extraction 15.09.37 # Zagor: does it actually solve that case? 15.10.02 # it should 15.10.11 # As far as I know -k keeps building things it *can* still build, not things that depend on things that failes 15.10.15 # *failed 15.10.56 # So I don't see how it will build a zip if the zip depends on all codecs and one codec failed 15.11.37 # * kugel thinks making zips even if the build failed is really the minor problem here 15.12.54 # * gevaerts thinks that "make apk" should build a usable apk 15.13.10 # * Unhelpful thinks that if you really want "don't actually rebuild a source file if its cpp output is unchanged" that you want ccache. :P 15.13.50 # Hm 15.14.03 Join mudd1 [0] (~cmertes@ip-78-94-202-227.unitymediagroup.de) 15.14.08 # How about an extra variable to tell make what to do? 15.14.36 # By default use full dependencies, and run "make NODEPS=1 zip" if you don't want that 15.14.47 # That shouldn't be too hard to do I think 15.15.26 # well, make apk did rebuild the core, which was fine 15.15.37 # now it also does make zip 15.15.50 # gevaerts: so, what, always use existing files, even if out-of-date? 15.16.08 # which automatically causes libmisc.so extraction, even make it didn't even redo the codecs 15.16.41 # libmisc.so and codecs are now separate but the issue is the same 15.16.49 Quit krazykit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 15.17.27 # Unhelpful: zip would depend on $(ZIPDEPS), which would be "all" by default, or empty if you set NODEPS to 1. apk would have similar things 15.17.39 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@106.70.191.10) 15.17.39 Quit JdGordon| (Changing host) 15.17.39 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 15.17.40 # NODEPS may not be the best name 15.17.53 # gevaerts: sounds good to me 15.18.07 # "make apk NOZIP=1" 15.18.24 # PACKAGENODEPS maybe? for "just package things, don't rebuild them"? 15.18.47 # kugel: ok with you? 15.18.52 # or even ZIPNODEPS and APKNODEPS if you think people would care... 15.18.54 # If you don't like typing this all the time, you can just put it in /Makefile even (and put it back every time you reconfigure) 15.20.47 # without zip step it also doesn't rebuild codecs? 15.20.53 # that it would be fine, I guess 15.21.09 # but the normal make zip also shouldn't cause things to recompile 15.21.18 # IIRC we even reverted a change to do that in the past 15.21.51 # the right way is to check all dependencies 15.22.08 # I'm find with adding a workaround, but the default should remain the right way 15.22.58 # kugel: the WHATEVER=1 step can omit or add anything. I'd say that's for the people who use those to decide 15.25.57 # iirc the make zip thing was once introduced with the makefile remake and reverted after discussion, so I'm bitter that in now went in so silently 15.26.25 Quit dfkt|n (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 15.26.46 # kugel: great, trying soon 15.26.56 # it was added so the android build would be the same as all other targets: make zip builds the zip 15.27.06 # or make apk, in the case of android 15.27.42 # it was only *not* that way because android was not included in the build farm, and so could live by its' own rules 15.28.01 # I mean the thing that make zip now does make implicitely 15.28.24 # yes. all other targets work that way too. 15.28.32 # it didn't work that way before 15.28.39 # not android, no. 15.28.45 # on no target 15.30.16 # ah, you are right. this was a global change. my bad. 15.30.33 # we can add the workaround globally too 15.31.38 # make zip NOZIP=1? :) 15.31.54 # obviously :-) 15.32.13 # The name needs thinking :) 15.32.27 # FORCE=1? 15.32.38 # make ITSOTHATITDOESNTMAKEANY=1 zip 15.32.43 # FLAG=1 15.32.48 # oh that wasn't quite right.. =) 15.33.37 Quit JdGordon| (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 15.38.56 # on all other project you need make and make install in separate steps 15.39.05 # No 15.39.09 # why do we now need to be different and put everything into one? 15.39.16 # Usually you can just do make install 15.39.18 # it was convinient before 15.39.40 # "make zip" is not "make install" 15.39.53 # The only reason people often run make install separately is that it often needs root access 15.40.03 # if we were like most projects "make" would build the zip 15.40.37 # * kugel disagrees 15.41.05 # zip is for installation purposes, you don't need to to run rockbox 15.41.07 # the primary reason I did the change was that without it, every build client would have to run two commands sequentially to build the zip 15.41.20 # zip is the target file 15.41.30 # make zip does not install it anywhere 15.41.36 # for me it's rockbox. 15.41.53 # then run "make rockbox." 15.42.29 # or just "make", since that is the default 15.42.36 # a normal make should build the binary needed to run the software, make install do the rest needed for installation 15.42.48 Join dfkt [0] (~dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 15.42.54 # kugel: rockbox. is not enough to run rockbox 15.43.00 # and IMO make install (or zip) shoulnd't imply normal make 15.43.05 # no, "make install" *executes* the install 15.43.40 # ours does more now 15.43.51 # kugel: point me to one project that doesn't have make install depend on a full build 15.44.31 # Bagder: it is 15.44.39 # no 15.44.46 # well, you need to copy it to the target player of course 15.44.46 # I consider the whole thing to be Rockbox 15.44.52 # that includes codecs and plugins 15.45.08 # that is done by make which is fine 15.45.17 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 15.45.42 # kugel: great! no longer crashes between booting ram/rom images 15.45.51 # and relocation seems to work 15.46.34 # cool 15.47.18 # automake makes the install target run a build first 15.47.32 # and quite a few projects use that 15.47.39 # it's nice when you boot and and everything is ready (dircache & tagcache) in few seconds and disk just spins down :) 15.49.26 # kugel: you can actually add the proposed magic flag to MAKEFLAGS 15.50.00 # once it's there 15.50.05 # :) 15.50.27 # Well obviously 15.50.53 # What I mean is that there are ways to reduce the possible annoyance to near-zero 15.51.39 # hopefully no other projects use the same proposed magic flag then 15.52.23 # You're not supposed to work on other projects! ;) 15.52.31 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 15.53.03 Quit bluebrother (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 15.53.42 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g231123100.adsl.alicedsl.de) 15.54.36 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@g231123100.adsl.alicedsl.de) 15.54.38 Quit bluebrother (Changing host) 15.54.38 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 15.58.46 Join Xerra0 [0] (~XRO@synergy.serv.xdk2.net) 16.00.35 Quit Xerrao (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 16.00.35 Nick Xerra0 is now known as Xerrao (~XRO@synergy.serv.xdk2.net) 16.01.50 Quit sideral (Quit: Leaving.) 16.06.43 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 16.06.44 Quit sideral (Remote host closed the connection) 16.08.49 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 16.10.20 Quit Bagder (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 16.11.54 Quit swilde (Remote host closed the connection) 16.11.59 # Zagor, kugel: something like http://pastebin.com/Grp82xMe should do the trick I think 16.12.11 # Again, the name is just a dummy :) 16.12.57 # Zagor: did you see that I added lillebror1-zagor to blockedclients due to a broken android build environment? 16.13.07 # yes, or just http://pastebin.com/k1ZJ4Uec 16.13.13 # gevaerts: ah, ok 16.13.37 # I was going to commit this just now :-) 16.13.45 # Ah yes, maybe cleaner 16.13.57 # s/maybe// :) 16.14.51 # New commit by 03zagor (r30050): Added NODEPS define to skip recompilation for zip and apk builds. 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Is it the OF, the bootloader or the rockbox firmware ? I'm looking at the bootloader code but I see nothing susceptible to detect the << button. 21.06.58 # It's the bootloader 21.07.45 Join guest_clive [0] (~4fba89d4@giant.haxx.se) 21.07.56 Quit guest_clive (Client Quit) 21.08.41 Join guest_clive [0] (~4fba89d4@giant.haxx.se) 21.10.20 # Hove you have any reported issues with an ipod running rockbox showing a drive but not the date within on a windows system but not a linux system 21.11.01 # could you clarify? 21.12.43 # I connect the device via USB to the computer and a drive (E:) appears in my computer, but the filesystem does not. It shows as a 0 byte filesystem 21.13.14 # Hmm, food is ready, I shall return. Sorry 21.13.35 Join kugel_ [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 21.13.52 Quit kugel_ (Client Quit) 21.13.53 Join krazykit [0] (~krazykit@206.183.185.8) 21.14.14 # like there is in e200, c200) ? 21.14.23 # Does anybody know wherever it's possible to omit database auto refreshing in sansa clip+ 21.14.26 # like there is in e200, c200) ? 21.14.58 Join chkktri [0] (~chikakita@bloodheaven.net) 21.15.09 Join enjoywater [0] (enjoywater@124.49.52.209) 21.15.21 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.55=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 21.15.45 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54A3B442.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.18.56 Join ReimuHakurei [0] (~reimu@74.112.212.15) 21.20.16 # is git repository updating now? 21.20.46 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 21.21.35 Quit kugel (Quit: leaving) 21.21.44 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@141.45.176.104) 21.21.45 Quit kugel (Changing host) 21.21.45 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 21.22.06 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 21.22.18 Part enjoywater 21.24.47 Quit Thra11 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.24.47 Quit guest_clive (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 21.27.18 Quit Buschel (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 3.6.18/20110614230723]) 21.31.40 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 21.35.18 Quit saratoga (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 21.38.23 # ok, im back 21.38.54 Quit kugel (Quit: leaving) 21.39.08 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@e178055112.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.39.08 Quit kugel (Changing host) 21.39.08 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 21.40.48 # kugel: yes, the test program found FS#12164 because it's strict with request_buffer 21.40.49 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12164 3Fix subtle bug in cook and atrac3_rm (patches, unconfirmed) 21.42.27 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@27.67.113.87.dyn.plus.net) 21.52.56 Quit hobby16 (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 22.17.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.17.33 # New commit by 03gevaerts (r30053): Update calibration script for the new format of the builds file 22.18.18 # New commit by 03gevaerts (r30054): Recalibrate the builds file 22.22.50 Nick kramer3d_ is now known as kramer3d (~kramer@unaffiliated/kramer3d) 22.23.01 Quit mudd1 (Quit: Ex-Chat) 22.26.42 Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.27.08 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 22.27.31 # gevaerts: yay 22.36.03 Join saratoga [0] (98034408@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.68.8) 22.47.37 Join Jerom1 [0] (~jerome@95.171.142.74) 22.52.15 Quit ChickeNES (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 22.59.15 Quit chkktri (Quit: Leaving) 23.13.18 Join [Saint] [0] (~st.lasciv@124-197-3-117.callplus.net.nz) 23.17.26 # New commit by 03zagor (r30055): Removed lillebror1 again 23.23.06 Join ChickeNES [0] (~ChickeNES@99.133.145.177) 23.24.00 Join chkktri [0] (~chikakita@bloodheaven.net) 23.24.20 # hmm has build script changed somehow? 23.24.39 # i'm compiling it on intel core i5 with -j key 23.24.47 # and still only one core used 23.25.17 # that sounds strange 23.25.22 # it certainly uses all my cores 23.31.10 # hmm 23.31.19 # make -j4 ? 23.31.26 # or make -j 4? 23.31.45 # same thing, I think 23.32.15 # then i don't works for me =\ 23.32.18 # it* 23.32.44 # btw i'm compiling rockbox using cygwin 23.33.03 # ah, cygwin is a special chapter 23.33.17 # did -j ever work there? 23.33.17 # and a sad such 23.33.22 # um 23.33.37 # worked up to last time i updated rockbox 23.33.56 # from r30000 to current 23.34.18 # r30054 exactly 23.35.10 # if you go back to r30000, does it start to work again? 23.35.27 # remind me how to return to older one 23.35.45 # svn up -r 30000 23.36.55 # compiling... 23.37.55 # hmm 23.38.17 # wierd it even didn't started generating dependencies 23.38.21 # yet* 23.40.46 # yep same problem 23.40.52 # I recommend using a linux VM for compiling, instead of cygwin. it's *much* faster. 23.41.30 # but now i noticed that cpu load doesnt becomes higer than 33% 23.41.35 # wierd 23.42.03 # that sounds about right for single core, single ht work 23.42.13 # no 23.42.17 # all4 cores used 23.42.29 # but load is limited to ~35% 23.42.33 # ah 23.42.43 # this can be overheat 23.43.16 # yes it is 23.43.37 # ~76 degree 23.43.59 # ah, that sounds a bit warm 23.44.56 # that's because of weather :< 23.46.31 Quit dfkt|n () 23.48.04 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: Read the fucking binary.) 23.53.00 Quit chkktri (Quit: Leaving) 23.53.30 Quit kramer3d (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)