--- Log for 26.06.111 Server: hitchcock.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 3 days and 21 hours ago 00.06.21 Join castigous [0] (~be54ab29@giant.haxx.se) 00.06.26 # Hi! 00.07.06 # I have a problem with My Sansa Fuze v1, it's not getting recognized in any computer when I connect it... 00.07.43 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Exit stage up.) 00.08.18 # hello!? 00.08.53 # Anyone there? 00.09.29 Quit ender` (Quit: The only reason some people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory. -- Paul Fix) 00.09.58 # castigous, do you see anything on the display? 00.10.34 # Yes, thanks! 00.11.10 # Does USB still work with the original firmware? 00.11.13 # I connect it and it start with the rockbox logo (not the sansa one) and then shuts off itself, and the start again and so on 00.11.45 # Maybe the battery is just really low 00.12.16 Join mshathlonxp [0] (~athlonmpp@5ad7b04e.bb.sky.com) 00.12.24 # I can use it as a player with the files that are already uploaded but in all computers I;'ve tried, noe can recognize the uit 00.12.41 # You can probably still boot to the original firmware by holding a specific button on power-on 00.13.35 # yes, I tried that but I cannot find which specific procedure --the unit has only one button and I tried that one but nothing different happens 00.13.59 # the battery holds 64% now 00.14.35 # ok, then the battery's not a problem then, maybe it's the cable 00.14.41 # the weird thing is that I've been using it with v3.8.1 since a couple of months ago without problem 00.15.21 # Yeah, I've tried another cable --from one unit that I lost or got stolen from me-- and the problem is still there 00.15.41 # Does USB still work with the original firmware? Or can't you boot into that anymore? 00.16.15 # that's the problem I cannot (or doesn't know how to) boot to the original firmware either 00.17.16 # As it has only one button apart from the on/off/lock switch, I've tried with it to no avail 00.17.24 # there should be a left button 00.18.19 Join matsl [0] (~matsl@1-1-4-2a.mal.sth.bostream.se) 00.18.32 # actually I just realized there is a 2nd button (at the center of the iPod style circle) but nothing happen with it either 00.18.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.19.04 # at the left side is the microSD slot and the tiny mic input 00.19.13 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 00.19.27 # at the right there is only the on/off/lock switch 00.19.53 # you can press in 4 directions on the round thing inside the scroll wheel 00.20.14 # on front of it is the circle (I don't know how to call it, the Ipod style thing), one button at the center of it and another "home" button 00.20.35 # http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-sansafuze/rockbox-buildch3.html#x5-240003 00.21.20 # OK, so I should with each of the 4 directions in the wheel? I'll try, give a minute... 00.21.56 # the user manual says to hold the "left" button on power-up (either by power button or USB plugin) to go to the original firmware 00.22.08 # Hi! I just found out that 00.22.22 # the original firmware is booting YEAH!!! 00.22.28 # Now what should I do? 00.23.30 # check if your computer can see the flash disk now, then check the integrity of the file system 00.24.26 # recognized by the computer, startting the checking 00.25.00 Quit Kudo-san (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.25.51 # Windows 7 says that the disk was succesfully scanned and that there are no problems with the file system 00.26.10 Join ReimuHakurei [0] (~reimu@74.112.212.15) 00.26.40 # Although I didn't check on the option that says "Scan for and attepmt recovery of bad secotrs" 00.27.02 # should I? 00.27.05 # no 00.27.32 Quit mudd1 (Quit: Ex-Chat) 00.27.38 # what do you recommend? Should I upgrade to the current version of RB? 00.28.06 # yes, that's worth a try 00.28.20 # not sure what could be wrong if it worked before and suddenly stopped working 00.28.27 # OK, I'll give it a try! 00.29.30 Quit kevku (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) 00.29.44 # Yes. that bugs me, it's been working for the last 3 or so months and yesterday when trying to upload new files (with plenty of space) Windows tells me it can't find the unit and next time I connetc it, this things start happening 00.32.53 # In the Installation tab on the Rockbox Utility should I install the bootloader again? or just Install Rockbox? 00.33.41 # first just install rockbox without a new bootloader I think 00.34.22 # OK! 00.36.53 # OK ejecting now, and corssing fingers... 00.40.00 # Apparently, it worked I shutted it uff after the iriginal firmware kind of restted itself to the original settings, then with the unit off I connect to the cable and it ... 00.40.53 # ...starts with RB USB driver --although it's saying "USB Keypad Mode : Multimedia", is that normal? 00.41.34 # the other day (like one month ago) A macbook recognized it as a USB keyboard 00.42.08 # I don't know, I think that's normal 00.42.22 # OK, it seems that's it 00.42.29 # you can use the fuze to control your PC's volume 00.42.57 Join Thra11__ [0] (~thrall@53.178.pn.adsl.brightview.com) 00.42.58 # I don't know the exact differences between multimedia, presentation, browser and mouse mode 00.43.24 # you should also get a (or maybe two) USB disk volumes 00.44.13 # Trying controlling the volume but nothing changes... 00.44.52 # and what do you mena by USB disk volumes? like external USB hard disks? what for? 00.45.37 # One or more drive letters that show the data on the fuze and it's microsd slot 00.45.46 Join mshaxp [0] (~athlonmpp@5ad7b04e.bb.sky.com) 00.46.02 Quit Thra11_ (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 00.46.52 # OK! yes I see one drive letter for the base "disk", the other one anly appears when there is a microcard 00.47.13 # ok, so that looks normal now 00.47.29 # Curious, the volume doesn't work but the play/pause and some other button works, Cool eh 00.47.40 Quit mshathlonxp (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.48.30 # Yeah, everything looks normal now, where did you find about the left button of the scroll-wheel being the one to use to start the original Firmware?, I didn't found anything of the sort 00.49.53 # paragraph 3.1.3 of the rockbox user manual for fuze 00.51.23 Nick mshaxp is now known as mshathlonxp (~athlonmpp@5ad7b04e.bb.sky.com) 00.51.24 # I seet it now :( . Well that's seems to be all, THANK YOU Bertrik so much, you've been very helpful when I felt stuck with this problem, I hope it doesn't repeats... 00.51.36 # no problem :) 00.51.43 # ...but if it does, now I know what to do! Thanks! 00.54.05 Join user829385 [0] (~aoeu@112.166.15.141) 00.56.50 Quit castigous (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 01.06.32 Join castigous [0] (~be54ab29@giant.haxx.se) 01.07.01 Nick Thra11__ is now known as Thra11 (~thrall@53.178.pn.adsl.brightview.com) 01.08.20 # weird, it happened again ... it shuts itself off when transfering files, I'm gonna try with another computer to see if it happen there too 01.09.17 Quit bertrik (Quit: :tiuQ) 01.17.25 # In the other computer the normal RB USB driver is not working but the sansa one does 01.21.19 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 01.29.51 Quit Poodlemastah (Remote host closed the connection) 01.37.02 Join ReimuHakurei_ [0] (~reimu@74.112.212.15) 01.37.02 Quit ReimuHakurei (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.38.44 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 01.40.49 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 01.41.29 Join JdGordon1 [0] (~jonno@106.70.107.97) 01.41.30 Quit JdGordon1 (Changing host) 01.41.30 Join JdGordon1 [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 01.43.46 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.55=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 01.55.54 Quit keyb_gr (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 01.58.09 Nick ved_ is now known as ved (ved@ddsbox.co.cc) 02.04.04 Quit castigous (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 02.08.00 Quit mshathlonxp (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.08.55 Quit ReimuHakurei_ (Quit: If I use this, I will disappear, and Shana-tan will remain...) 02.09.37 Join ReimuHakurei [0] (~reimu@74.112.212.15) 02.11.44 Quit liar (Quit: hallowed are the ori!) 02.12.45 Join mshathlonxp [0] (~athlonmpp@5ad7b04e.bb.sky.com) 02.18.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.31.32 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@207-144-19-39.cstel.net) 02.38.26 Quit matsl (Remote host closed the connection) 02.38.37 Quit Thra11 (Quit: kthxbai) 02.42.31 Join mshaxp [0] (~athlonmpp@5ad7b04e.bb.sky.com) 02.44.07 Join owen1 [0] (~oren@cpe-76-172-9-207.socal.res.rr.com) 02.44.08 Join mshathlonmp [0] (~athlonmpp@5ad7b04e.bb.sky.com) 02.44.18 Quit mshathlonxp (Disconnected by services) 02.44.21 Nick mshathlonmp is now known as mshathlonxp (~athlonmpp@5ad7b04e.bb.sky.com) 02.44.32 # is there a way to revert back to the original OS on a sansa clip+ ? 02.44.58 # i want to try rockbox but want to make sure it's reversible. 02.45.16 # yes. installing and uninstalling is documented in the manual 02.45.33 # krazykit: thanks! 02.46.40 Quit mshaxp (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.47.22 Join milk [0] (~milk@94-193-93-226.zone7.bethere.co.uk) 02.47.51 # looks like it's dual boot. nice. 02.48.42 Quit JdGordon1 (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 02.49.48 # i still have the original OS. i have a few mp3 in MUSIC folder. i can't find a way to play all my files (it's podcasts, btw) at once. i don't want to go back after i listened and pick the next one. am i crazy or just stupid? 02.50.33 # i guess you could just insert the whole directory. that'll make a playlist with everything on it 02.51.31 # krazykit: so create a dir inside MUSIC? 02.52.10 # or wherever. making playlists and such is easy with rockbox 02.52.23 # i'd say just to install it, play with it, and consult the manual when needed 02.53.09 # krazykit: ok. the issue i have is with the orinigal OS. i'll try putting all the podcasts in a folder inside MUSIC. thanks 02.53.23 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.55.24 # didn't work. i am shocked that this basic feature doesn't exist. 02.55.38 # playing all my podcasts! 02.58.39 # well, it doesn't have to be in music when you run rockbox 02.59.07 # i generally just keep mine in a seperate directory 02.59.25 # krazykit: in the root? not inside MUSIC? let me try 02.59.34 # this is with rockbox 02.59.39 # i've never used the OF on a clip 02.59.39 # krazykit: oh 02.59.51 # i assumed you meant rockbox since we're in the rockbox channel 03.02.06 # when i run rockbox with sh RockboxUtility i get RockboxUtility: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected. when i try it with ./RockboxUtility nothing happend 03.02.09 # I use debian, btw. 03.03.39 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@c-76-28-198-27.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 03.11.02 # well, you're running X, aren't you? the latter command ought to work 03.12.04 # the amd64 and x86 versions both opened up fine for me (64-bit debian) 03.14.58 Quit mirak_ (Remote host closed the connection) 03.19.48 Join Keripo1 [0] (~Keripo@c-76-28-198-27.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 03.20.32 Join antil33t [0] (~antil33t@124-197-33-15.callplus.net.nz) 03.20.48 Quit Keripo (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 03.27.13 Join mshathlonmp [0] (~athlonmpp@5ad7b04e.bb.sky.com) 03.30.40 Quit mshathlonxp (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03.31.52 Nick mshathlonmp is now known as mshathlonxp (~athlonmpp@5ad7b04e.bb.sky.com) 03.54.18 Quit [Saint] (Quit: Imagination is for turbo-nerds who can't handle how kick-butt reality is. 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I wonder why the new vgm codec doesn't work on my OndaVX747. 07.17.55 # i am trying to install rockbox on clip+. i downloaded the firmware (clip01.01.35.zip) but the install tells me 'ERR - original firmware unknown' 07.24.53 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@c-68-61-166-99.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 07.24.53 Quit jhMikeS (Changing host) 07.24.53 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 07.28.01 Quit CaptainKewl (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.39.23 # figure it out. i used the wrong firmware. 08.00.57 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (~advcomp20@97-114-224-225.sxcy.qwest.net) 08.00.57 Quit advcomp2019_ (Changing host) 08.00.57 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (~advcomp20@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 08.04.52 Quit advcomp2019 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 08.05.08 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 08.08.06 Quit factor (Quit: Leaving) 08.19.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.20.18 Quit Zarggg (Quit: Rebooting client...) 08.20.37 # i installed rockbox. do i have to shut it down befor connecting to my comupter? 08.20.58 # No you needn't. 08.21.04 # when doing it i see the Original firmware(as mentioned in the manual). 08.21.11 # ok. let me try without it. 08.25.35 # is there any visual indication i should expect when connecting to my computer? i see nothing and dmesg shows nothing as well. 08.26.08 # Rockbox itself should show a USB splash. 08.26.19 # PurlingNayuki: nothing here 08.26.43 # i was able to mount it only if after shutdown. 08.26.52 # What your device running Rockbox? 08.27.04 # sansa clip+ 08.29.09 # USB support on Clip+/Clipv2/Fuzev2: USB support is currently disabled because it fails randomly with current svn code 08.30.42 # However, you can enable by defining something in autoconf.h when compiling. 08.31.28 # PurlingNayuki: ok. i guess i'll shut it down for now. hopefully the next rockbox version will fix that. 08.35.59 # owen1: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11664?show_task= 08.38.27 Nick kramer3d is now known as d3remark (~kramer@unaffiliated/kramer3d) 08.40.10 Join [Saint] [0] (~st.lasciv@124-197-0-227.callplus.net.nz) 08.45.05 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@149.254.61.36) 08.45.51 Join factor [0] (~factor@74.197.205.204) 08.46.57 Quit robin0800 (Client Quit) 08.54.55 Quit RoC_MasterMind (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 08.59.13 # PurlingNayuki: thanks 08.59.44 # can i delete all the folders I currently see (MUSIC, AUDIOBOOKS, etc)? 09.00.11 # Of course you can. 09.00.13 # But, why? 09.01.35 # PurlingNayuki: i only need my sansa for playing my podcasts. when i go to file i see this: ##MUSIC##, ##PORT##, AUDIBLE, AUDIOBOOKS, MUSIC, PODCASTS, ossible workaround the usb random failures on amsv2 (mainly clip+). 09.02.10 # sorry about the ending of my sentence. i pasted by mistake. 09.02.39 # i wanted to say that i have so many items in the file menu that i don't understand (##MUSIC##) or don't need 09.03.03 # Rockbox isn't strict with the place you put your musics and podcasts. 09.03.07 # when i go to files, it will be nice to see the list of my mp3 09.03.44 # ok. so i can delete ALL the folders under the file menu, and move my mp3 into the root of the player? 09.03.45 # So if you're sure the files in those folder aren't important for you, you can delete them all. 09.09.14 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@f048003203.adsl.alicedsl.de) 09.11.22 # PurlingNayuki: i deleted them (using rockbox UI), shutdown the sansa, pluged into my computer, moved the mp3 into the root, shut it down again (to use the rockbox and not the original firmware, and guess what - all the folders are back... 09.11.52 # at least my mp3 are under 'FILE' 09.12.55 Quit Topy (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 09.13.42 # Have you ever synchronised between your computer and your sansa using WMP? 09.14.01 # PurlingNayuki: no 09.14.17 # using debian and don't have WMP 09.15.35 # another question. when i am in the radio section. i can't find a way to go back to the main menu. 09.15.44 # so i stuck there forever (-: 09.16.34 # the same for the recording section 09.17.39 Join saratoga [0] (98034408@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.68.8) 09.19.20 # These folders are recreated by the OF if you delete them. There's nothing we can do about that as long as we're using the OF for USB 09.19.36 # They are empty though 09.20.15 Join n1s [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/n1s) 09.20.17 # I have no idea. 09.20.27 # I'm using touchscreen target. 09.20.52 # amiconn: true, but i have to scroll them until i reach my mp3. annyoing.. what if i delete them not via the rockbox UI but from my computer, after connecting the device and using the original OF? 09.21.12 # put your mp3s in a folder, then set that folder as the default for the file browser 09.21.15 # The OF will recreate them either way 09.21.36 # Boot into the OF, and set the USB mode into MTD? 09.21.47 # You could try to make them hidden. I'm not sure whether the OF will remove that attribute again though 09.23.15 # owen1: Leaving the radio screen or the recording screen is simple: Just a short press of the power button 09.23.44 # amiconn: interesting. thanks 09.24.17 # There's this useful thing called manual (hint) 09.24.42 # another problem i have. right and left arrow resume the podcast i am listening to instead of going to the next or previous podcast! 09.24.49 # It has only English version. 09.25.05 # so i can't play all my podcasts sequentialy! 09.25.35 # Yes, the manual is English only 09.25.39 # maybe it's the location of my mp3s. i'll try moving them back to MUSIC folder. 09.26.10 # i see 2 of 10 at the bottom, but it's always play 2. never goes to 3 or 1. 09.26.10 # It's a lot more work to translate the manual than to translate the firmware strings. Both are moving targets, but the manual is way more text 09.27.03 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Leaving) 09.27.09 # With rockbox you can put your files anywhere you want (it's just not recommended to put them into the .rockbox folder) 09.27.36 # Did you enable "repeat one" mode by accident? 09.27.44 # amiconn: i read that as well. let me see. 09.29.00 Quit sasquatch (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2) 09.29.08 # amiconn: yes (-: 09.29.09 # thanks 09.29.27 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@p4FF2CB95.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.33.40 Part PurlingNayuki 10.07.25 Join kevku [0] (x@altair.raylworks.co.cc) 10.12.48 Join ntkm [0] (~taku@bmdk6135.bmobile.ne.jp) 10.14.34 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 10.16.46 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4CD7A.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.16.56 Quit ntkm (Client Quit) 10.19.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.23.00 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54A3B50C.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.24.59 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 10.30.01 Quit Buschel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10.50.36 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 10.51.44 Quit [Saint] (Quit: Imagination is for turbo-nerds who can't handle how kick-butt reality is. I'm a kick-butt reality master! I would rather die, than be imaginative. I mean that.) 11.02.08 Join ntkm [0] (~taku@bmdk6137.bmobile.ne.jp) 11.02.16 Quit ntkm (Client Quit) 11.03.47 Join keyb_gr [0] (~chatzilla@p4FF01F2A.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.10.52 Nick sinthete1 is now known as sinthetek (~sinthetek@cpe-174-111-021-024.triad.res.rr.com) 11.11.01 Quit sinthetek (Changing host) 11.11.01 Join sinthetek [0] (~sinthetek@unaffiliated/sinthetek) 11.14.33 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@cez63-2-88-164-98-172.fbx.proxad.net) 11.14.36 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 11.14.36 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.37.54 # amiconn, pixelma: how many characters can the "Building DB %d found" string be at maximum? 11.40.45 # hm, the %d is variable length of course 11.41.41 # so, is there an application for the PC that allows building a rockbox database? I have a lot of music on my 80Gb Ipod and rebuilding the database on the device takes 30+ minutes, so I'd like to be able to build the database when the ipod is connected to my PC. Also, so I can make a batch file that syncs my music and updates the database with a single click 11.41.50 # FS#9371 does no longer work :( 11.41.51 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9371 3create database application (patches, unconfirmed) 11.43.49 # I don't know 11.45.36 Quit parafin (Remote host closed the connection) 11.45.45 # There is something in tools/database. gevaerts funman kugel and n1s did some work in that directory 11.46.17 Join parafin [0] (parafin@paraf.in) 11.46.35 # yeah, there's a pretty barebones thing in svn that shoudl work 11.46.46 # it's never tested though so it might not 11.47.10 # you can build a "Database" target through tools/configure and it compiles, but I don't know what it does :) 11.47.23 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@145.116.10.163) 11.47.33 # it creates a database. file 11.49.06 # FS#9371 used to work fine until a few months back. Apparently the database file structure has changed 11.49.07 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/9371 3create database application (patches, unconfirmed) 11.49.23 # It's an executable, but it doesn't give any --help. I guess you provide it with a path to the target disk 11.49.27 Quit antil33t () 11.49.57 # yes 11.50.30 # songdb.exe -r R: -m update 11.51.03 # that was the syntax. Basically, you parse the target disk with -r and what to do (update/create) with -m 11.51.42 # n1s, "it's never tested", huh? 11.52.32 # it compiles! ship it! :P 11.56.50 # It looks like it just does a database_init, _build and _reverse_scan in the current directory 12.01.43 # judging by my limited skills of reading source code, it seems like a _very_ skeleton file to demonstrate building tagcache db on host 12.19.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.26.03 # * Torne wonders if anyone else is going to try the gerrit demo. 12.26.36 # gevaerts, petur, markun : what do you think of this dutch translation : http://pastie.org/2124090 ? 12.28.41 # Seems reasonable 12.31.31 # for the "building database" thing, I'm following the german translation a bit to keep it short for the archos player 12.31.57 # not sure how short it really should be 12.41.42 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 12.43.41 Quit Horschti (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.44.24 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@p5DD57189.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.44.24 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 12.44.24 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 12.44.26 Quit Viperfang (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.44.59 Join Viperfang [0] (~Viperfang@external.viperfang.net) 12.45.11 Quit T44 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.45.14 Join Topy [0] (~Topy44@f048003203.adsl.alicedsl.de) 12.52.02 # New commit by 03alex (r30073): Bump versions for release. 12.52.58 Quit jordan` (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 12.56.32 Join jordan` [0] (gromit@2a01:e34:eebf:c890:21a:4dff:fe63:6966) 13.00.24 # bertrik: The Player LCD has two lines at 11 chars each, so given the same word order and assuming that 5 digits are sufficient for the number, 'Building DB' should fit into 11 chars, and 'found' should fit into 5 chars (excluding the preceding space) 13.01.59 # Ok, thanks, I think the dutch translation I chose should work then :) 13.02.29 # That's why I abbreviated 'gefunden' in German with 'gefu. 13.04.25 # There's a slight improvement that could be done in splashf() - while splitting at word boundaries is desirable in most lines, it would imo make more sense to put even a partial word at the end of the last line 13.07.15 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@46.208.227.135) 13.07.28 Quit mshathlonxp () 13.15.23 # New commit by 03amiconn (r30074): Update German translation 13.16.45 # New commit by 03amiconn (r30075): Update US English translation 13.18.12 # New commit by 03amiconn (r30076): Update German translation 13.18.24 # New commit by 03amiconn (r30077): Update US English translation 13.18.53 # r30074 build result: All green 13.22.05 # r30075 build result: All green 13.27.31 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@f049047214.adsl.alicedsl.de) 13.30.09 Quit Topy (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 13.31.38 Join fyre^OS [0] (~nnscript@cpe-24-90-84-81.nyc.res.rr.com) 13.31.59 Quit bertrik (Read error: Operation timed out) 13.32.39 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 13.32.39 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 13.32.39 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 13.34.17 Quit fyrestorm (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 13.46.15 Quit AlexP (Remote host closed the connection) 13.48.46 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 14.14.57 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4CD7A.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.17.08 Join BHSPitMonkey_ [0] (~stephen@68-185-203-185.dhcp.dntn.tx.charter.com) 14.19.13 Quit owen1 (Remote host closed the connection) 14.19.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.21.11 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 14.22.09 # New commit by 03bertrik (r30078): Fix missing strings in nederlands translation 14.23.37 # New commit by 03bertrik (r30079): Fix missing strings in nederlands translation 14.24.55 # AlexP: perhaps we should refer to "since 3.8" instead in the release notes? 14.25.16 # r30078 build result: All green 14.25.32 # (instead of "since 3.8.1") 14.25.37 # kugel: I don't know - features are since 3.8, bugs are since 3.8.1 14.25.58 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 14.26.10 # 3.8.1 was the last release, so it feels a little strange to sort of ignore it 14.26.37 # But I don't have terribly strong feelings about it :) 14.26.51 # well, but usually you compare major releases, not major ones with maintainence ones 14.27.39 # I don't mind either way 14.37.30 # Feature idea: for ata targets with an ssd installed we could detect that and automatically optimize a few settings 14.37.56 # sdd and cf, actually 14.38.53 Join quem [0] (~foo@c83-254-240-201.bredband.comhem.se) 14.39.22 # thinking of getting a philips gogear vibe to replace my dying 1st-gen ipod nano. i know it doesn't run rockbox.. but is it any.. good? 14.40.02 # maybe a question for #rockbox-community rather? :) 14.40.10 # quem: No idea, you are better looking for reviews for it/a community 14.40.16 # or yes, -community 14.40.19 # heh 14.40.30 # i'll try -community, i trust you guys. ;) 14.49.43 # Hmm, rotation rate reporting is an ata-8 feature 14.49.59 # So this automatism probably won't work in all cases 14.52.14 # can't you measure the time? 14.52.42 # (spinup time I mean) 14.53.11 # That might be a fallback option 14.53.24 # what do you want to optimize for ssd? 14.53.36 # Reduce pre-buffering 14.53.59 # Maybe also change voice to partial buffering 14.54.54 # Currently we use the measured spinup time to calculate the amount of necessary pre-buffering, but there's a safeguard if the measured spinup time is low 14.56.50 # maybe you can get the spinup time from the SMART info 14.56.59 # not sensibly. 14.57.05 # that data is crazy 14.57.06 # :) 14.57.50 # Identify info has rotational rate in word 217 for ata-8, and that's set to zero for SSDs 14.57.52 # amiconn: how big would the gains from this be? 14.58.22 # Not sure 14.58.31 # * amiconn is just throwing ideas around :) 14.59.03 # it would reduce the amount RAM for pre-buffering, so .... we have more RAM for buffering! :P 15.00.12 # Yes, the time between two buffer refills would become a few seconds longer 15.00.24 # The question is whether this actually matters 15.24.40 Join ntkm [0] (~taku@KD111100198040.ppp-bb.dion.ne.jp) 15.28.13 Quit ntkm (Client Quit) 15.29.08 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 15.48.28 Quit BHSPitMonkey_ (Remote host closed the connection) 15.49.27 Quit factor (Quit: Leaving) 15.51.35 Join fdinel [0] (~Miranda@modemcable036.124-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 15.52.15 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 15.52.16 Join bluebroth3r [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 15.54.46 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 15.55.59 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g226069011.adsl.alicedsl.de) 16.10.12 Quit GeekShadow (Remote host closed the connection) 16.12.10 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 16.19.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.25.01 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 16.25.52 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4CD7A.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.39.05 Part user829385 16.40.01 Join user829385 [0] (~aoeu@112.166.15.141) 16.40.05 Quit user829385 (Max SendQ exceeded) 16.40.51 Join user829385 [0] (~aoeu@112.166.15.141) 16.42.26 # New commit by 03nls (r30080): Reuse a general voice function instead of reinventing the wheel. 16.45.34 # r30080 build result: All green 16.51.07 Join factor [0] (~factor@74.197.205.204) 16.51.17 # n1s: I like this kind of commits :) 16.52.33 # deleting code without losing function is nice :) 16.56.03 Quit ack (Quit: Coyote finally caught me) 17.00.32 Join ack [0] (~ack@mingbai.org) 17.04.35 Join chkktri [0] (~chikakita@host-94-251-111-208.bbcustomer.zsttk.net) 17.11.45 Join RansomTime [0] (~Eltervies@wikia/vstf/Randomtime) 17.23.55 Quit factor (Quit: Leaving) 17.33.27 Join Viperfang_ [0] (~Viperfang@external.viperfang.net) 17.33.54 Quit Viperfang_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.34.08 Join Viperfang_ [0] (~Viperfang@external.viperfang.net) 17.37.18 Quit Viperfang (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 17.38.22 Quit froggyman (Quit: Ex-Chat) 17.42.00 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.50.09 Quit sinthetek (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.53.00 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@f048137227.adsl.alicedsl.de) 17.56.16 Quit Topy44 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 17.58.53 Quit simonlnu (Remote host closed the connection) 17.59.34 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@213.165.85.248) 17.59.38 Quit sideral (Changing host) 17.59.38 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 18.04.13 Join simonlnu [0] (N8oAq1rSSs@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 18.10.08 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@c-76-28-198-27.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 18.19.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.26.50 Join esperegu_ [0] (~quassel@145.116.15.244) 18.27.18 Quit esperegu (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 18.30.40 Join t0rc [0] (~t0rc@unaffiliated/t0rc/x-5233201) 18.39.28 Quit t0rc (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5) 18.54.54 Quit Thra11 (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 18.57.24 Quit T44 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.02.15 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@f048137227.adsl.alicedsl.de) 19.10.20 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@46.208.124.45) 19.14.58 Quit domonoky (Quit: Leaving.) 19.22.31 Quit sideral (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 19.29.05 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54B677AE.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.37.51 Nick d3remark is now known as kramer3d (~kramer@unaffiliated/kramer3d) 19.38.20 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 19.39.39 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 19.44.15 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 19.47.46 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 19.49.12 Quit liar (Quit: hallowed are the ori!) 19.49.31 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 19.50.32 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lem0n@ppp-219-26.26-151.libero.it) 19.55.46 Quit RansomTime (Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- The alternative IRC client) 20.02.31 Quit Buschel (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 20.19.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.19.30 # ooh, new release? 20.26.27 # yes, tomorrow 20.33.43 # btw 20.33.58 # is it possible to add APE tags suppport for mp3 files? 20.35.10 # Yes, I believe there is a patch for that somewhere. Why do you want to use broken files though? 20.35.25 Nick kugel is now known as kugelp (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 20.35.25 # broken? 20.36.31 # The way I understand it, mp3 files with APE tags in them aren't valid mp3 files 20.36.38 # hmm 20.36.43 # That means that some decoders will choke on them 20.38.21 # i wonder if there's tools to convert them to standart ID3v2 20.38.31 # * gevaerts isn't an expert though 20.38.51 # I don't think mp3 files with any tags are "valid" actually 20.39.16 # looks like even itunes support them 20.40.01 # chkktri: we're not against supporting them (although we used to be), we're just questioning the sanity of people who want them ;) 20.40.55 # okay 20.41.06 # you said there was patch somewhere? 20.41.49 # I said I *believe* there is one 20.41.54 # I haven't checked recently 20.42.22 # ah 20.42.51 # Hm, actually it might not be on the tracker. The history of that feature is a bit controversial and not entirely happy... 20.43.32 # It was in the tree at some point, despite it being (back then) on the NODO list, so it was reverted again 20.44.00 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (~rmenes@c-68-36-240-234.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 20.44.01 Quit LambdaCalculus37 (Changing host) 20.44.01 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (~rmenes@rockbox/staff/LambdaCalculus37) 20.44.53 # chkktri: have a look at the changes in r26048 20.46.51 # ah i see 20.46.52 # gevaerts: is there anything in particular that you'd like to see (done/committed) before the mid term eval? 20.47.06 # but ID3 tag here present too 20.47.35 # but it's 1st version 20.48.34 # kugelp: let me have another quick look at things 20.49.40 Quit GeekShadow (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.50.04 # (I'll probably havelittle time between exams so I already ask now) 20.53.16 Quit LambdaCalculus37 (Quit: Fwump) 20.53.33 # oh wow 20.53.51 # those tags were in Big5 codepage 20.54.59 # kugelp: is there anything you feel is stable enough to commit now? 20.55.13 # More than what's there already I mean 20.55.29 Join webguest58 [0] (~75fe8ae2@giant.haxx.se) 20.55.36 # no, it wasn't 20.55.55 # so how can be priority set to APE tags instead of ID3v1? 20.59.59 Join CaptainKewl [0] (captainkew@207-38-215-126.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 21.00.24 # chkktri: it can't 21.00.41 # fix your metadata. it's not hard :) 21.00.54 # yup 21.01.02 # looking now 21.01.37 # i'd like to make some mips optimizations, how should i go for ? 21.02.44 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 21.03.46 # chkktri: I think foobar2000 can change tag types. If you happen to be on Windows :) 21.04.19 # that's true but i don't want to install it 21.04.48 # that's your problem then. IMO it's one of the best audio players on Windows. 21.05.19 # (you could look for a portable version though) 21.05.32 # yes but it can't play some exotic formats which can be played by winamp\xmplay 21.06.22 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 21.07.17 Join HaimN [0] (~quassel@95.86.77.102) 21.24.11 # best for MP3 tagging: 21.24.21 # http://www.mp3tag.de/en/download.html 21.25.30 # thanks! 21.25.41 # thats imho, ymmv 21.26.11 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@vit94-1-82-67-248-70.fbx.proxad.net) 21.26.12 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 21.26.12 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 21.27.36 Quit webguest58 (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 21.29.13 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 21.40.19 # gevaerts: well I think only the audiobuf access one is left and I didn't have a panic with it yet 21.40.38 # I added a panic if things try to get the whole thing at once 21.41.06 # the buflib-go-core one isn't in my repo iirc 21.41.14 # to* 21.42.04 # kugelp: I suspect it's best to wait. You don't want to have to fix issues when you have exams... 21.42.16 # Without that I'd say commit now 21.43.02 # I don't have exams now, I'd still have an hour or two to fix things 21.43.18 # otoh I can easily advance locally too 21.43.49 # Getting things tested is nice of course 21.44.04 # Does anyone have a few minutes to look at and commit http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12168 for me? I would but I'm a bit indisposed at the moment. 21.44.27 # (translation update) 21.44.51 Join ibhan [0] (~yaaic@109.59.15.177) 21.45.21 # AlexP: 我会做，但我看不懂中国 21.45.21 # ÉcouterLire phonétiquement 21.45.37 # (owned) 21.45.59 # ? 21.46.27 # (i'd do it but i can't read chinese) 21.46.38 # well no, we trust the translator 21.46.48 # I meant look at in a technical sense 21.46.56 # Anyway, got to disappear :) 21.47.41 # kugelp: if you think committing won't interfere with your exams, I'd say go for it 21.49.37 # New commit by 03funman (r30081): FS#12168 - Update Simp Chinese translation by Li Jie 21.49.38 # AlexP: done 21.51.30 Part ibhan 21.51.38 Quit Viperfang_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 21.51.44 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (~rmenes@c-68-36-240-234.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) 21.51.45 Quit LambdaCalculus37 (Changing host) 21.51.45 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (~rmenes@rockbox/staff/LambdaCalculus37) 21.52.54 # r30081 build result: All green 21.54.40 Quit LambdaCalculus37 (Client Quit) 22.00.12 Quit saratoga (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 22.02.20 Quit HaimN (Remote host closed the connection) 22.09.01 # gevaerts: so there's nothing else? 22.09.49 Join factor [0] (~factor@74.197.205.204) 22.11.16 # kugelp: I can't think of anything. I had a look at the timeline and milestones on melange, and while I suspect that timeline was a bit optimistic in hindsight, it doesn't look like you skipped anything 22.12.03 # kugelp: oh, maybe check if the wiki page is still up to date 22.13.03 # gevaerts: indeed I underestimated the uni workload a bit 22.14.26 # but I did also more theoretical work beforehand than I.planned so I'm optimistic about the project 22.14.39 # * gevaerts nods 22.17.53 # I don't think there's an actual problem at this point. 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