--- Log for 04.07.111 Server: calvino.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 2 days and 9 hours ago 00.03.06 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@24.229.139.169.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) 00.26.12 Quit Slasheri (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 00.30.28 Quit Guinness (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 00.32.52 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 00.34.17 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 00.37.47 Join Slasheri [0] (miipekk@rockbox/developer/Slasheri) 00.37.56 Quit ReimuHakurei (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.40.16 Join Guinness [0] (Slayer@c-68-55-111-159.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 00.44.11 Join guesting [0] (~bcc034c5@giant.haxx.se) 00.44.46 # hi there, how to make pictureflow music-search-engine by default? 00.45.46 Quit Guinness (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 00.50.40 # any chance 00.50.41 # ? 00.53.05 Join Guinness [0] (Slayer@c-68-55-111-159.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 00.53.47 # guesting: You can put pictureflow on your WPS hotkey, so that it's easily reachable 00.54.52 # I think there's also a mechanism to automatically run a plugin after boot, but I believe you need to enable it in the source and recompile. 00.56.08 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: Ex-Chat) 00.57.32 Quit Thra11 (Quit: kthxbai) 00.57.43 # okay, ill try that 00.57.45 Quit guesting (Quit: CGI:IRC) 01.03.00 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@92.67.112.87.dyn.plus.net) 01.03.33 Quit bthomson (Read error: Operation timed out) 01.03.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.05.35 Join bthomson [0] (~bthomson@c-68-33-5-232.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 01.10.10 Quit bthomson (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.12.07 Join bthomson [0] (~bthomson@c-68-33-5-232.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 01.13.19 Quit Thra11 (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 01.21.14 Quit sideral (Quit: Leaving.) 01.25.47 Quit utanapischti (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 01.27.13 Join ibhan [0] (~yaaic@109.56.24.92) 01.27.38 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 01.34.16 Join bieber_ [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 01.34.22 Quit bieber (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 01.36.25 Part ibhan 01.42.50 Join utanapischti [0] (~username@p4FF2DAE3.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.44.25 Quit mudd1 (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 02.04.49 Join Scromple [0] (~Simon@115-64-195-104.tpgi.com.au) 02.33.37 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 02.38.52 Quit keyb_gr (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 02.54.36 Quit bthomson (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.3-dev) 02.55.08 Join bthomson [0] (~bthomson@c-68-33-5-232.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 03.03.07 Quit leavittx (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 03.03.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.24.09 Quit GeekShadow (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 03.35.43 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 03.51.10 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@rockbox/user/Llorean) 04.33.19 Quit funman (Quit: leaving) 04.44.12 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.44.14 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.44.16 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.44.32 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.44.39 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.44.50 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.56.51 Quit [7] (Disconnected by services) 04.57.03 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.03.42 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.33.21 Join telliott [0] (~Tim@d27-96-170-180.evv.wideopenwest.com) 05.33.26 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FFF0AEC.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.34.41 Quit ps-auxw (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 05.36.00 Join ps-auxw [0] (~arneb@p4FF7F673.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.36.25 Quit Rob2223 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 05.39.37 Quit FoH (Quit: i need to make some things die) 05.41.58 Quit Horscht (Quit: Verlassend) 05.44.54 Join tiopasin [0] (~Helljawz@unaffiliated/tiopasin) 05.48.17 Join FoH [0] (~foh@adsl-98-71-68-244.bhm.bellsouth.net) 05.51.35 Quit bieber_ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 05.51.51 Join bieber [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 06.15.34 Quit fdinel (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 06.18.14 Quit Scromple (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 06.24.28 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 06.27.57 Quit bieber (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 06.28.16 Join bieber [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 07.03.36 # is the playlist catalog setting actually settable outside of the config.cfg? (i.e in menus) 07.03.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.03.45 # the manual doesnt say very much here 07.03.58 # "The Playlist catalog offers a shortcut to all playlists in your player’s specified playlist directory. It can be used like the File Browser" 07.04.49 # * JdGordon should proably finish FS#11808 to fix that suckiness 07.05.36 # JdGordon: Would it be possible in the theming of lists to also make the scroll direction configurable? So you could scroll up/down or right left (by single entries or pages)? I guess I'm not sure if that is a 'theme' setting, but sideways scrolling might be desired for the grid-style. 07.06.45 # well, sideways will be how it works in a grid pattern 07.07.20 # all targets with page scrolling will work as expected 07.09.08 # Well, as long as scrolling of strings works, I'm pretty much happy really. But *I* like vertical scrolling grids m'self, but also see a lot of horizontal ones, which is why I felt optional might be good. 07.09.29 # Do RTL locales typically also scroll 'pages' of icons right to left as well? 07.11.17 # no idea how RTL scrolls through icon tables 07.11.35 # i imageine they are ordered differently but otherwise as expected 07.12.04 # i.e they start at the top right and move left instead of starting top left 07.12.36 # Yeah, but for example, do you then swipe your finger from left to right because the "next" page is to the left of the current page, rather than to the right? 07.13.13 # * JdGordon will try to get a hold of some israeli buddies to ask 07.48.59 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 07.49.08 Join esperegu [0] (~quassel@145.116.15.244) 07.52.20 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.06.09 Quit esperegu (Remote host closed the connection) 08.14.10 Join Scromple [0] (~Simon@115-64-195-104.tpgi.com.au) 08.24.54 Join mudd1 [0] (~cmertes@a253-12.24online.fi) 08.44.04 Join mem [0] (~mem@mem-irc.netnod.se) 08.44.12 Part mem 08.55.32 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 09.03.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.03.51 Quit Rob2222 (Quit: Rob2222) 09.04.24 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FFF0AEC.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.06.27 Join antil33t [0] (~antil33t@124-197-33-15.callplus.net.nz) 09.18.15 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.19.08 Quit mudd1 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.19.08 Join leavittx [0] (~leavittx@cl-534.mbx-01.si.sixxs.net) 09.19.28 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.21.00 Quit Scromple (Quit: Gone) 09.26.48 Quit tiopasin (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 09.27.16 Join Helljawz [0] (~Helljawz@unaffiliated/helljawz) 09.29.01 Quit utanapischti (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.2) 09.29.27 Join utanapischti [0] (~username@p4FF2CF03.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.56.46 Join Topy [0] (~Topy44@f048140063.adsl.alicedsl.de) 09.59.44 Quit T44 (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 10.36.49 Join preglow_ [0] (thomj@tvilling2.pvv.ntnu.no) 10.40.28 Join n1s [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/n1s) 10.43.11 Quit preglow (*.net *.split) 10.43.11 Quit mystica555_ (*.net *.split) 10.43.12 Quit knittl (*.net *.split) 10.43.12 Quit mikroflops (*.net *.split) 10.43.12 Quit Hadaka (*.net *.split) 10.49.26 Join mystica555_ [0] (~Mike@71-208-221-175.hlrn.qwest.net) 10.55.19 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@giant.haxx.se) 11.02.01 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lem0n@ppp-213-11.26-151.libero.it) 11.03.08 Quit antil33t () 11.03.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.38.02 Quit sideral (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 11.53.41 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 11.54.25 Join Tag_type9 [0] (~c5e21c7a@giant.haxx.se) 11.54.53 # which is preferable for R-Box ID3v2.3 or ID3v2.4 ? 11.56.58 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@82.203.120.78.rev.sfr.net) 11.56.59 Quit GeekShadow (Changing host) 11.56.59 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 11.57.24 # Tag_type9: I don't think is makes much difference for Rockbox. AFAIR, Rockbox supports ID3v2.4, including UTF-8-encoded tags 12.01.47 # thanks 12.03.41 Quit Tag_type9 (Quit: CGI:IRC) 12.08.32 Quit linuxstb (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 12.09.20 Join linuxstb [0] (~linuxstb@rockbox/developer/linuxstb) 12.23.04 Join rg-per [0] (~c5e21c7a@giant.haxx.se) 12.25.28 # how does R-Box's RG playback the following, Music collection is scanned with "Scan Per File Track", Rockbox RG is set to Album Gain. Will all the tracks be played at the same volume level ? 12.25.59 # I *think* if there is no album gain tag on a given track it falls back to the track gain tag 12.26.02 # but not sure 12.26.56 # rg-per: It isn't necessary to have a different nick representative of the question for each question :) 12.27.16 # rg-per: you'll help everyone if you stop using abbreviations please. I assume RG is supposed to mean replay gain? others might guess something else 12.29.35 # objection noted JDG. RG is indeed Replay Gain. all the tracks have their relevant values, just that the albums were scanned with Foobar as "Per File Track", if Rockbox's RGain is set to album, I guess that playback will be at the same volume ? 12.34.15 Quit bieber (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 12.34.32 Join bieber [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 12.35.04 Quit rg-per (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 12.39.53 Join rg-per [0] (~c5e21d4e@giant.haxx.se) 12.40.37 Quit rg-per (Client Quit) 12.45.11 Join GermanMushroom [0] (~c@s5146db6a.adsl.wanadoo.nl) 12.55.45 Quit petur (Quit: *plop*) 13.00.08 Quit leavittx (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 13.01.24 # Does anyone actually use the "screen scrolls out of view" setting? 13.03.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.24.48 Join keyb_gr [0] (~chatzilla@p4FF029A3.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.27.45 # I don't even know what it does :) 13.28.37 Join leavittx [0] (~leavittx@89.221.199.187) 13.28.51 # B4gder: would you be able to make a symlink on the git server called something like rockbox-svn pointing at the existing svn clone, so I can tell people who are using that to change their remotes so I don't break them later when we start doing the migration proper? 13.31.36 # JdGordon: i don't use it but thought it would be one of those things that are easily forgotten 13.32.22 # n1s: I dont use it either, and i'm not too worried about not supposrting all the avilable list settings from the start 13.33.28 Join knittl [0] (~knittl@unaffiliated/knittl) 13.33.28 Join mikroflops [0] (~yogurt@h-34-156.A238.priv.bahnhof.se) 13.33.28 Join Hadaka [0] (~naked@naked.iki.fi) 13.33.31 # sure, but i'd rather not have list settings that only work in some lists 13.35.15 Join dfkt [0] (~dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 13.37.22 # it's a setting which shouldn't have been added in the first place ;) 13.37.29 # who uses it, really? 13.41.10 # it's *old* so i assume it might have been nice on small lcds where you would have most filenames etc longer than could be shown 13.42.28 # So if I understand the manual correctly, if it is off and you hold left/right to scroll then only those entries longer than the screen will scroll 13.42.44 # If it is on, then all will scroll, leading to them disappearing off the screen? 13.42.45 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@91.125.91.186) 13.43.46 # Disappearing eventually. The setting can be useful if you have several tracks with the same prefix (e.g. Interpret) in a folder 13.44.32 # AlexP: just tested adn that is correct 13.44.48 # Scrolling all lines equally keeps the nice line-up, while scrolling each line until its right end doesn't 13.45.14 # well, I have no strong feeling about the setting itself - only that if we introduce new ways of doing things we should either strive to make them support all settings, or if the setting is useless remove it 13.45.18 # That said, I don't use horizontal screen scrolling at all, even on Archos 13.45.51 # it's actually quite confusing imo, if i first long press right things scroll, and if i then press long left they scroll back, but if i just press long left i go up several levels in the file tree 13.58.46 # l 14.07.24 # I'm not putting effort into a setting noone uses though :) not while there is other stuff to worry about 14.07.34 # I was more hoping to get discussion on the rest of the idea 14.10.29 # alsotime to bump http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11808 ? 14.10.45 # anyone remember any thoughts they had on the playlist handling changes 14.16.38 # kugel: Have you been able to reproduce any of the recent dircache breakage, and do you intend to fix any of it? stack overflows, garbage filenames in file browser, tagcache corruption? 14.16.44 # I'm asking because running without dircache is somewhat inconvenient :) 14.19.29 # JdGordon: sounds good, although i hardly use premade playlists 14.25.43 # sideral: I thought it was a "simple" stkov problem? 14.25.56 # I'm not convinced my patches actually increased stack usage 14.26.48 # Well, all observations of the stack-overflow issue are post-3.9, so that's suspicious :) 14.27.10 # and there's also the other issues I mentioned. 14.27.20 # also new after your june commits 14.27.23 # you once said someone reported it on 3.9 14.28.21 # kugel: I thought we discussed this before? He first said it was 3.9, but then produced a version number that corresponds to a post-3.9 build 14.28.39 # I don't remember that 14.29.05 # OK, then maybe I dreamt it, apologies 14.30.14 # I think people often are unaware of the release-branch forking and confuse a current build from the day of the release with the actual release 14.31.06 # did you check if bumping the stack helps? 14.31.50 # Not yet. I've seen the stack overflow only once myself. But I can reliably reproduce the trashed-filename problem 14.33.10 # I think it's related to dircache reloading after a tagcache update as well 14.33.14 # all other problems could be caused by the stkov ;) 14.33.47 # a trashed filename in every dir? seems unlikely, but not inconceivable ;) 14.39.34 # kugel: Are you aware of FS#12175? You don't seem to be subscribed to it 14.40.10 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 14.41.06 Quit n1s (Remote host closed the connection) 15.03.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.05.07 Quit jae (Read error: Operation timed out) 15.08.32 Quit leavittx (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 15.11.10 Quit linuxguy3 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15.12.21 Join linuxguy3 [0] (~timj@216-80-116-174.c3-0.lem-ubr1.chi-lem.il.cable.rcn.com) 15.21.18 # Flyspray doesn't offer 3.9 in the version field. Who'd be able to fix this? 15.29.16 # A swede 15.42.33 Join n1s [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/n1s) 16.13.14 Quit bieber (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 16.13.48 Join bieber [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 16.17.38 # kugel: there is no d_names_start -= offset but only d_names_end -= offset in end of the dircache_build()? 16.18.16 # kugel: also this kind of syntax makes code horribly to read: ptrdiff_t offset = d_names_start - dst, size_to_move; 16.19.52 # i would make a second declaration for size_to_move. It took me a long time to realize there were two variables declared in that line 16.22.45 Join john1980 [0] (~wircer@p54B39242.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 16.22.58 Part john1980 ("wIRC") 16.38.49 Quit keyb_gr (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 16.39.44 Join dfkt_ [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 16.41.07 Join knitt1 [0] (~knittl@unaffiliated/knittl) 16.41.19 # Slasheri: we do that kind of declaration everywhere 16.41.58 Join mikroflops_ [0] (~yogurt@h-34-156.a238.priv.bahnhof.se) 16.41.59 # Slasheri: but you could have found the issue indeed 16.42.21 # perhaps it (or something else) slipped in when I made the code changes pamaury suggested 16.48.01 Quit dfkt (*.net *.split) 16.48.01 Quit knittl (*.net *.split) 16.48.01 Quit mikroflops (*.net *.split) 16.48.01 Quit Hadaka (*.net *.split) 16.58.21 # * amiconn agrees with Slasheri that this is bad style 16.59.41 # yeah, that's horrid 16.59.48 # Either declare multiple variables, or declare and assign at once, but then only one variable per statement 16.59.55 # initialising to a short literal is just about tolerable 17.00.00 # but a nontrivial expression, absolutely not 17.00.07 # (on the4 same line as other declarations, i mean) 17.03.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.09.31 Join leavittx [0] (~leavittx@cl-534.mbx-01.si.sixxs.net) 17.17.59 # Sorry! 17.20.27 Quit Thra11 (Read error: Operation timed out) 17.22.09 Part LinusN 17.35.39 Quit dfkt_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.35.55 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 17.41.43 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@87.113.116.162) 17.42.40 Join keyb_gr [0] (~chatzilla@p4FF050D7.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.43.55 Quit dfkt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.43.59 Join dfkt_ [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 17.45.05 Quit dfkt_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.45.06 Join dfkt [0] (~dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 17.46.10 Quit dfkt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.46.11 Join dfkt_ [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 18.01.58 Quit GermanMushroom (Quit: Ik ga weg) 18.03.45 Join Thra11_ [0] (~thrall@87.115.239.195) 18.05.42 Join bieber_ [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 18.06.02 Quit bieber (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18.06.10 Quit Thra11 (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 18.28.20 Quit leavittx (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 18.35.12 Quit n1s (Remote host closed the connection) 18.44.17 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 18.47.52 Join leavittx [0] (~leavittx@cl-534.mbx-01.si.sixxs.net) 18.49.41 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: Ex-Chat) 18.51.04 Join GermanMushroom [0] (~c@s5146db6a.adsl.wanadoo.nl) 18.55.49 Join CaptainKewl [0] (captainkew@207-38-215-126.c3-0.nyr-ubr1.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 18.57.04 # Slasheri, kugel: With the d_names_start fix outlined above, at first sight the trashed directory entries seem to be gone. 18.57.56 # sideral: great 18.58.31 # your player builds dircache foreground on every boot? 18.58.54 # I think so. I'm using a FuzeV2 right now 18.59.16 # ok, then that's another problem 18.59.32 # it should normally build it in background 19.00.35 # Erm. The 2nd time (after DB update) is definitely in background. I actually don't know how it's build the first time; probably background as well. 19.00.52 # s/build/built/ 19.01.16 # if it says "scanning disk" on boot, that's foreground 19.01.23 # otherwise bg 19.02.27 # I think I've seen that message flash by. It vanishes pretty quickly so I'm not sure. :) But the 2nd dircache build definitely is in the background. Why does it matter, BTW? 19.03.01 # I think the buggy code is definitely run after the DB update 19.03.18 # because that fix should only help if dircache is built foreground 19.03.44 # no, that should be different code 19.03.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.04.03 # DB calls dircache_build(0) 19.07.51 Quit bluebroth3r (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 19.08.29 # sideral: hmm, in fact, if you have a very small dircache, it will be always built foreground 19.08.54 # that is, smaller than 64 KiB 19.09.27 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@g225252147.adsl.alicedsl.de) 19.09.36 Quit bluebrother (Changing host) 19.09.36 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 19.09.55 # Slasheri: It's currently 270K, including the 64K reserve 19.09.58 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 19.10.40 # sideral: interesting 19.10.46 # sideral: anyway, i will commit the fix 19.11.19 # seems like a good idea. I can see how the file-browser trashing could happen without it :) 19.13.15 # Slasheri: BTW, it looks like with dircache compaction, my DB RAM usage is now larger than my dircache. This sheds a new light on the logic for buffer allocation for DB commit, which currently uses the dircache buffer on the assumption that it will be larger 19.13.50 # New commit by 03miipekk (r30122): Initialize the d_names_start pointer correctly in dircache. This should ... 19.13.54 # This could explain why my DB hasn't committed w/o reboot in the past few weeks :) 19.15.00 # hmm, interesting as well :) 19.15.37 # maybe the commit() should check which one of those buffers is larger :) 19.17.01 # I prefer not deallocating the dircache anyway, because my FS#12073 hack (dynamically add files to database as they are played) depends on this :) 19.17.45 # r30122 build result: All green 19.19.11 Quit dfkt_ (Quit: -= SysReset 2.55=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 19.19.21 Quit Thra11_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.20.23 # * sideral needs to go offline now. See you later! 19.20.34 Quit sideral (Quit: Leaving.) 19.20.45 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@87.115.236.180) 19.26.40 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54A39FDE.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.31.31 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@87-206-240-131.dynamic.chello.pl) 19.32.48 Join Hadaka [0] (~naked@naked.iki.fi) 19.33.50 # pamaury: ping 19.37.19 # pong 19.37.25 # hi wodz 19.38.21 # pamaury: what is status var in usb_core_transfer_complete() ? 19.38.24 Quit Buschel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.38.47 # 0 means success and anything else? 19.38.51 # 0 means success, !=0 means error 19.39.15 # can I return arbitrary value or errors have some meaning? 19.39.30 Quit telliott (Quit: Leaving) 19.40.21 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54A39FDE.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.40.35 # what you want 19.40.44 # I think drivers are not consistent on this point 19.42.37 # and another question - when handling OUT ep I know the expected len from SETUP stage. Now I accumulate data and at the end I should issue zero len packet and listen for answer. Is this correct? 19.42.56 # or can I ignore the answer? 19.45.43 Quit Thra11 (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 19.45.48 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@122.171.pn.adsl.brightview.com) 19.47.14 Join a [0] (~c@s5146db6a.adsl.wanadoo.nl) 19.47.24 Join kugel_ [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 19.47.35 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@p5DD576F1.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.47.36 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 19.47.36 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.47.40 Nick a is now known as Guest89071 (~c@s5146db6a.adsl.wanadoo.nl) 19.47.56 Join Buschel_ [0] (~chatzilla@p54A39FDE.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.48.39 # wodz: you don't have to do anything special for OUT ep, the core does the usb_drv_recv and the ZLP ack by usb_drv_send normally 19.49.08 # is anyone still _actively_ using Cygwin to develop / build Rockbox? 19.49.37 # bluebrother: well, not anymore but it worked 4 weeks ago ;) 19.49.43 # pondlife, although he has been quiet recently 19.49.52 # amiconn uses it, no? 19.49.54 # hmm, the svn log on the front page is broken. B4gder? 19.50.04 Join balintx_ [0] (~quassel@szerver1.gulyasp-koll.sulinet.hu) 19.50.12 # That's been broken for a while now :) 19.50.15 # yeah 19.50.15 Join n3f [0] (~andor@173.242.127.201) 19.50.16 # Buschel_: well, the question is not about it working but about people actually using it :) 19.50.30 # I'm using it regularly for building voice files 19.50.46 # amiconn said that he uses it only for voice files, so I don't consider that to count for "develop" :) 19.51.13 # OK 19.51.15 Join GodEater_ [0] (~bibble@porpoise-248.dolphin-server.co.uk) 19.51.15 Quit GodEater_ (Changing host) 19.51.15 Join GodEater_ [0] (~bibble@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 19.51.20 # bluebrother: i think quite a few noncommitters who contribute do 19.51.24 Join tah [0] (~thomas@aktaia.intevation.org) 19.51.36 Quit ps-auxw (Disconnected by services) 19.51.36 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@login.ok-labs.com) 19.51.36 Quit JdGordon_ (Changing host) 19.51.36 Join JdGordon_ [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 19.51.36 Join avacore [0] (~avacore@1008ds1-rdo.0.fullrate.dk) 19.51.45 # which basically brings me to the point that I think the Cygwin build setup is some kind of unmaintained. 19.51.46 Join ps-auxw [0] (~arneb@p4FF7F673.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.51.55 # i think you would be right :) 19.51.58 # This does require that a few parts of rockbox build properly, e.g. in order to create apps/features 19.52.03 Join iq_ [0] (~iq@ip24-252-19-172.om.om.cox.net) 19.52.07 # It essentially has been for a while 19.52.08 Quit Buschel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.52.08 Quit GodEater (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.52.08 Quit neferty (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.52.09 Quit ThomasAH (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.52.09 Quit Staphylo (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.52.09 Quit wodz (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.52.09 Quit GermanMushroom (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.52.09 Quit balintx (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.52.09 Quit kugel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.52.09 Quit avacore^ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.52.09 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.52.09 Quit B4gder (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.52.10 Quit iq (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.52.10 Join Staphylo [0] (staphylo@hyperion.epimeros.org) 19.52.17 # It gets broken then fixed when someone complains 19.52.22 # and I'm wondering if we should announce it that way to avoid people to expect it working 19.52.23 Nick Buschel_ is now known as Buschel (~chatzilla@p54A39FDE.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.52.47 # like for that guy in the forums a while ago who tried to build Rockbox for Android on Cygwin (which is definitely broken) 19.52.47 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@87-206-240-131.dynamic.chello.pl) 19.52.50 # bluebrother: the suggestion at devcon was to change how we do the whole vmware thing 19.53.00 # Torne: yes. 19.53.02 # I have been intending to produce debian/ubuntu packages containing our toolchain/etc 19.53.06 Join B4gder [241] (~daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 19.53.10 # just not gotten around to it yet because of git migration 19.53.17 # anyway i think we should probably do that first 19.53.24 # We are overdue for a new image also 19.53.27 # make sure tha tit's reasonably easy to get a working vmware/virtualbox/etc environment 19.53.30 # hmm. 19.53.34 # For Windows people 19.53.40 # then maybe we can discuss telling everyone that cygwin is deprecated 19.53.55 # AlexP: well if we do it the other way around we can point at someone else's general ubuntu image 19.53.58 # or whatever. 19.54.03 # well, my idea was to have the website / wiki say something like "building on Cygwin is deprecated and might or might not work. We don't actively maintain it but happily accept patches" 19.54.16 # Torne: yes, that'd work 19.54.28 # bluebrother: sure, but i still think we should maybe make sure we have a current and reasonably easy alternative first 19.54.33 # * Torne shrugs 19.55.50 # Torne: true, but would it make that much of a difference? AFAIU there aren't much users, and those people are likely to be able to fix smaller issues themselves. 19.56.20 # i just think it'll cause complaints 19.56.22 # i mean it will anyway 19.56.26 # but more complaints :) 19.56.45 # hmm. Not sure about that but you could be right :) 19.59.00 Quit Topy (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.59.01 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@f048140063.adsl.alicedsl.de) 19.59.49 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@149.254.60.33) 20.00.02 # how hard would it be to build such an Ubuntu package to do the necessary things? I'm not an Ubuntu guy ... 20.02.12 # Not particularly hard to do it in a kinda ugly way :) 20.02.22 # wouldn't it be sufficient to give all the details about required packages and how to install them? it's not that much 20.02.24 # Doing it to inclusion-in-repository standards would be a huge pain 20.02.40 # Buschel: our toolchain is not a package 20.02.41 # (yet) 20.02.48 Quit T44 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.02.52 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@f048140063.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.02.52 # the idea is we have a package that contains already-compiled binaries with the latest rockbox toolchains 20.03.01 # which also depends on all the other packages required to build 20.03.13 # well, calling the script to build the cross-compilers isn't that hard either 20.03.14 # such that you just add an apt source and apt-get install rockbox-dev-environment 20.03.31 # Buschel: you say that 20.03.49 # The thing is.. if it was that easy then nobody would expect us to provide a vmware image in the first place ;) 20.04.03 # * Torne shrugs 20.04.05 # Torne: well, for cygwin we force users to do so since we sitched to eabi 20.04.07 # * bluebrother guesses he could do something like that for Fedora ... no idea about Ubuntu though 20.04.17 # Buschel: yes, and that made a lot of people kinda upset 20.04.39 # * Buschel remembers he was upset 20.04.40 # hmm, maybe I should give that a look? 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