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Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 06.46.22 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 07.03.31 Nick kramer3d is now known as d3remark (~kramer@unaffiliated/kramer3d) 07.06.53 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 07.12.51 # Man it's p.dead in here 07.13.49 # This channel is mostly awake during euro day hours 07.14.12 # You work with the clipp any? 07.14.50 # my clip+'s battery died months ago and not since then :( 07.14.58 # i really should buy a new one.. favorite dap 07.15.12 # http://pastebin.com/Jv0rcxpa 07.15.17 # Check my battery life 07.15.34 # not a complete run, but if you compare the discharge times and voltages to the runs on the wiki 07.17.36 # the first discharge was 3993 to 3977 over the course of four hours 07.17.53 # in this (http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/pub/Main/SansaRuntime/battery_bench_Clip_8-22-10.txt) that took three min 07.19.29 # The discharge curve must be different though, because I believe the other discharge was closer to 10x the capacity, 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work 16.38.04 # since we'll probably be compiling for ARMv6, no? 16.38.28 # the PP code assumes both cores can run any code in .text 16.38.42 # which isn't true if they aren't the same architecture version :) 16.41.14 # perhaps with gcc attribute/pragma magic ? :) 16.42.12 Join saratoga [0] (9803c57f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.197.127) 16.42.30 # pamaury: well, i mean, it expects to be able to run the same exact functoin on both cores a lot of the time 16.42.36 # there isn't one set of code for each cpu 16.42.40 # they overlap 16.42.52 # i guess worst case we could do like on the TI DSPs, where we compile the code separately and just link it 16.43.03 # although thats annoying and kind of silly if they're both arm 16.43.44 # ah, then yeah, you need to compile separatly 16.44.01 # kind of depends what you want to do with the coprocessor i guess 16.44.16 # arm7 isn't the most efficient thing for codecs, so it might not be all that useful 16.44.40 # unless its one of those weird flavors 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If so they are covered by GPL regardles of fancy disclimer 19.16.14 # some registers have the same address and meaning while other are completely different 19.17.01 # wodz, yep, but those are from sigmatel linux kit (at least i presume) 19.18.05 # this doesn't matter 19.18.59 # You requested code, you got it - it is redistributable, period. 19.19.49 Quit Thra11 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 19.20.26 Quit Judas_PhD (Quit: This is a quitting message) 19.29.04 Quit mdipolt (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.32.41 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@54.13.gr6.adsl.brightview.com) 19.36.10 Quit T44 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 19.36.38 Join Thra11_ [0] (~thrall@54.13.gr6.adsl.brightview.com) 19.37.11 Quit Thra11 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 19.38.50 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: Ex-Chat) 19.41.45 Nick Thra11_ is now known as Thra11 (~thrall@54.13.gr6.adsl.brightview.com) 19.44.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.47.30 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 19.51.05 Join dhrasmus [0] (~dhrasmus@c-76-105-170-114.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 20.03.15 Join HaimN_ [0] (~quassel@31.44.129.56) 20.03.34 Quit HaimN (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 20.05.31 # wodz: it's not that easy I think 20.05.54 # although I think the "confidential stuff" is standard-blabla also found in many emails 20.07.11 # technically if they send you code under a proprietary license, you may not be able to distribute it 20.08.08 Join Stummi [0] (~Stummi@rockbox/developer/Stummi) 20.08.33 # saratoga: For me it is easy. GPL explicitly gives you the ability to ask for source if you use binary. This is the case here. 20.10.51 # wodz: he got source files, which can have different licenses 20.11.10 # unless they say GPL on them, you need to be careful they're actually GPL 20.11.38 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 20.11.52 # as I understand there was never a binary distribution with this files compiled in 20.12.54 # that depands on what kernel runs on his device 20.13.54 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 20.14.00 # if it belongs to the linux kernel running on this device, then it's pretty clear yes. otherwise perhaps not :) 20.16.16 # thats how I understand the situation 20.16.31 # I don't really know the situation :) 20.16.36 Join GermanMushroom [0] (~c@s5146db6a.adsl.wanadoo.nl) 20.18.32 # saratoga: Thanks! & too bad 20.25.17 Quit Thra11 (Remote host closed the connection) 20.25.40 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@54.13.gr6.adsl.brightview.com) 20.29.17 # saratoga: seems like the ARM7 is running at half the base clock, so the ARM11 is running at 532 officially, 1064 effectively, and the ARM7 at 266 officially, 532 effectively 20.29.43 # pretty good, fastest i've seen is like 150 MHz for arm7 20.31.09 # these numbers seem unbelievable 20.32.10 # well, as I said the DRAM interface went nuts at these clocks, and I2C was a bit flaky as well 20.32.17 # saratoga, rk27xx rates arm7-ejs at 200-240 Mhz depending on the version 20.32.21 # but I was surprised that USB communication seemed to work fine 20.32.56 # IIRC the older apple SoCs were also easily overclocable by >50%, without overvolting 20.33.04 # overclockable* 20.33.47 # this processor was apparently designed for an ipod touch, so I guess 532MHz is not all that much :) 20.34.20 # TheSeven: what is current status of nano4g ? 20.36.14 # hm, it draws a whopping 90mA at 532MHz waiting in a busy loop 20.36.26 # wodz: trying to get the lowlevel stuff going 20.36.30 # LCD is up next 20.37.19 # so you halted classic development for now I guess 20.38.18 # well, I have no idea what to do about the classic, and am joining the nano4g efforts as there was a breakthrough some days ago 20.38.42 # once i figure out what's going on with the classic I'll happily fix it :) 20.39.17 # hm, 125mA on USB @1064MHz 20.40.05 # that would be 3 hours runtime with the LCD off 20.40.33 # so probably like 1.5-2 hours at 1064MHz full load with LCD at full brightness 20.41.10 Quit basti (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.47.34 Quit Thra11 (Quit: kthxbai) 20.47.53 Quit dhrasmus (Quit: Leaving) 20.47.58 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@54.13.gr6.adsl.brightview.com) 20.54.20 Join basti [0] (~basti@xdsl-89-0-100-2.netcologne.de) 20.55.20 Quit Stummi (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 20.57.57 Quit JesusChrysler (Quit: JesusChrysler) 20.58.07 Join JesusChrysler [0] (~JesusChry@c-69-253-15-232.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 21.09.39 Join B3n [0] (~Ben@92.28.241.168) 21.10.51 # Hi all, I have compiled the latest rockbox from svn, and am attempting to connect a newly flashed iPod classic to a mac, I have read that I need to disable USB HID, yet I cant find the option. Any ideas? 21.13.46 # B3n: as far as I can see HID isn't enabled on the classic 21.14.47 # ok, yet the mac only offers the option to initialise the disk 21.15.38 # We have 2 classics here, an 80GB and 120GB 21.18.27 # They both behave the same 21.18.43 # Win7 and Mint read them happily 21.19.12 # * B3n tries to think of more useful info to pass over 21.19.16 # * gevaerts doesn't know too much about macs 21.19.37 # Me neither... its not my mac :P 21.19.48 Nick B3n is now known as Viperfang (~Ben@92.28.241.168) 21.30.32 Quit HaimN_ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 21.30.59 Join HaimN [0] (~quassel@31.44.129.56) 21.34.19 Quit sasquatch (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.34.57 Quit HaimN (Client Quit) 21.35.35 Join HaimN [0] (~quassel@31.44.129.56) 21.44.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.51.28 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54A3AE32.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.55.39 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@46.115.20.254) 22.00.02 Join promyloph [0] (~promy@unaffiliated/promyloph) 22.09.40 Quit dfkt|n (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.17.17 Quit Buschel (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 3.6.18/20110614230723]) 22.18.41 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: Bye ;)) 22.20.14 Join Thra11_ [0] (~thrall@84.93.143.136) 22.21.17 Quit Thra11 (Read error: Operation timed out) 22.26.10 Quit promyloph (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.27.08 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@vit94-1-82-67-248-70.fbx.proxad.net) 22.27.08 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 22.27.08 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 22.28.52 # TheSeven: what was the breakthrough on nano4g ? 22.30.10 # some people have finally reversed the third bootloader stage and reimplemented that part, so we now have working DRAM 22.31.00 # do you have the docs for the cpu ? 22.31.32 # s/cpu/soc 22.32.51 Quit saratoga (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 22.32.55 Join domonoky1 [0] (~Domonoky@agsb-5d852e2c.pool.mediaWays.net) 22.33.35 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 22.33.55 Quit domonoky (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 22.34.22 # no, nothing at all 22.34.43 # just what has been reversed 22.35.42 Quit n1s (Remote host closed the connection) 22.36.25 # wow, pretty hard 22.36.50 # and is the nano5g still stuck ? 22.37.29 # Anyone in here work with the clipp? 22.37.43 Quit Thra11_ (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 22.39.47 # you mean the clip+ ? depends on what you call "work" :) 22.40.32 # pamaury: there's still no known exploit for the 5g 22.40.53 Quit zchs (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 22.43.57 # what kind of encryption does it use ? 22.47.55 # AES, SHA1, RSA, ... 22.47.59 # nothing weak 22.48.31 # they do public key cryptography for signing the firmware, and additionally check hashes encrypted with a hardware key 22.51.29 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 22.53.04 Join Thra11_ [0] (~thrall@84.93.143.136) 23.01.47 Quit GermanMushroom (Quit: Ik ga weg) 23.05.46 Join dan_a [0] (d917ad9c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.23.173.156) 23.17.37 Quit petur (Remote host closed the connection) 23.24.54 Nick Thra11_ is now known as Thra11 (~thrall@84.93.143.136) 23.27.17 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 23.29.56 # Anyone who knows details of the charging with the clipp 23.30.18 # I keep getting an error (81 in the debug) after charging for a few hours 23.30.56 # I'm not sure if the charging is controlled by software or hardware. If it's software, then I need to find out how to modify the charging section a bit since I'm running a signifigantly larger battery then stock 23.30.57 # it could be taking longer to charge than the current timer setting allows 23.31.00 # (sp) 23.31.07 # yeah, it's probably that 23.31.27 # I've supposidly got 4400mah of capacity now, compared to 270mah in the original 23.31.51 # does unplugging and replugging continue the charging? 23.32.03 # yes it does 23.32.14 # though I'd have to do that a lot to get a full charge 23.33.12 # Looking at the batterybench it looks like it's set to four hours 23.33.37 # I'd guess this takes at least 12 hours, maybe over 20. I'm not sure 23.34.07 # got about .130v in four hours, from 4.0 to 4.13 23.34.42 # oh excuse me, not counting the voltage jump for charging it was closer to 0.09v 23.34.58 # /firmware/target/arm/as3525/powermgmt-target.h sets it to four hours 23.34.59 # 3990>4086 23.35.17 # so, how do I go about changing it? 23.35.23 # I usually don't muck around in the code 23.35.42 # edit the file and recompile. you can change the maximum current too 23.35.57 # that would probably be helpful 23.36.16 # max current is very long (150mA) 23.36.17 # my only worry would be tripping the protection circuit. I'm still running through the original protection circuit 23.37.20 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~lem0n@ppp-188-43.26-151.libero.it) 23.37.29 # I think it should be ok to trip 23.37.45 # I've tripped them before. 23.37.57 # does it just stop current until it drops down? 23.38.08 # I'd hate to have to take all the crap off and re open the clip 23.38.17 # if you're talking about the battery protection circuit, it does protect against shorts 23.38.44 # My new cells supposidly have protection circuits in them as well...I'd figure the original has short protection as well as over current and voltage 23.38.59 # probably 3.3-4.2v or so, no clue on current 23.40.17 Quit domonoky1 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.41.23 # I think the only (non-damaged) case where it won't come back online is a drop below 2.3V 23.42.22 # yeah, but the firmware shuts down way before then 23.42.46 # self-discharge can let it drain further 23.44.09 # yeah, but it'd take a long time to get there 23.44.37 # I used to have issues with my X5L not starting when it was cold because the battery voltage would drop. Even on a low battery I don't think I ever saw it below 3.3v 23.44.50 # and that's including the artifical drop due to temps 23.44.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.46.33 # you're probably safe upping the current a couple settings and lengthening the charge timeout 23.47.21 # If there is something in the software that stops charging when the battery hits 4.2v, I'd probably change the charge timeout to something obnoxiously long 23.47.33 # I don't know how long it would take for a full charge, but it's going to take a while 23.48.17 # how should i go to add a new board target ? 23.49.21 # clmoe: it doesn't stop charging at 4.2V, somewhere near there, it goes into constant voltage mode and continues until the current hits 10% of the constant current setting 23.50.40 # so, it should be good without a timeout? 23.51.20 # sure, of course you can find out how long it takes from a bench and set it to a new value 23.52.11 Quit stripwax (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.54.06 # the charging is monitored by hardware but the parameters set by software 23.54.49 # the timeout is just to not take forever trying to charge a battery the refuses to charge 23.55.36 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 23.57.36 Quit Viperfang (Read error: Connection reset by peer)