--- Log for 10.07.111 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 2 days and 10 hours ago 00.02.10 Quit ender` (Quit: The sardines were packed as tight as the coach section of a 747.) 00.05.05 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@87.113.206.154) 00.05.43 Quit sasquatch (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 00.06.05 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@207-144-19-39.cstel.net) 00.06.55 Join sasquatch [0] (~username@46.115.26.166) 00.07.54 Quit Thra11_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 00.12.09 Quit esperegu (Remote host closed the connection) 00.19.15 Join GermanMushroom [0] (~c@s5146db6a.adsl.wanadoo.nl) 00.19.57 Join ender` [0] (krneki@foo.eternallybored.org) 00.20.47 # <[7]> any ARM expert around? 00.21.09 # * [7] needs some help with ARMv6 cache coherency 00.21.30 # <[7]> what do I need to do after copying around code before jumping into it? 00.21.42 # <[7]> mcr p15, 0, r9,c7,c10,0 @ clean data cache 00.21.42 # <[7]> mcr p15, 0, r9,c7,c10,4 @ drain write buffer 00.21.42 # <[7]> mcr p15, 0, r9,c7,c5 @ invalidate instruction cache 00.21.42 DBUG Enqueued KICK [7] 00.21.42 # <[7]> doesn't seem to do the trick 00.22.37 # er 00.22.52 # i will check what the flush-to-PoU sequence is supposed to be 00.23.01 # [7]: don't we have code for that? 00.23.04 # i have it here somewhere :) 00.23.11 # kugel: It's *probably* wrong 00.23.12 # <[7]> kugel: certainly, but where? 00.23.22 # armv6 and onwards make this hilariously odd 00.23.38 # [7]: i suspect you are missing flushing BTB or similar weirdness.. 00.23.39 # [7]: some file the beast compiles probably 00.23.46 # i'll find my reference 00.23.50 Quit Thra11 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 00.24.11 # I heard the beast can run codecs so we must have it working for armv6 ;) 00.24.24 # <[7]> anyway, i'm 100% sure that there can't be any stale icache lines from before the cleaning operation 00.24.37 # <[7]> (there is no code being executed from that memory range up to this point) 00.25.08 # <[7]> so I'm assuming that something is already prefetching things before the dcache/wb flush completes 00.25.11 # [7]: mmu-armv6.S? 00.27.32 # [7]: that's not possible if you invalidate the icache *afterward* 00.27.38 # is it possible to do a screendump on an oled device? 00.27.59 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@87.113.206.154) 00.28.06 # <[7]> serenity: I see no reason why it wouldn't 00.28.11 # <[7]> just try it? 00.28.22 # did so, but no pic is stored 00.28.42 # wiki is talking about screendump on led devices 00.28.51 # serenity: You turned on screen dump, then plugged in usb? 00.28.57 # yes 00.29.02 Quit liar (Quit: hallowed are the ori!) 00.29.03 # [7]: do you know which arm it is specifically? 00.29.10 # <[7]> 1176jz-s 00.29.40 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 00.29.40 # * serenity is just writing a big blogpost about rockbox. And ppl love screenshots ;) 00.29.45 # <[7]> 16k 4way icache/dcache, 32 bytes linesize 00.30.38 # [7]: does it have an L2 cache? 00.30.55 # it shouldn't matter if it's a sensible one, but i'm curious :) 00.31.06 # <[7]> hm, how can I figure that out? 00.31.50 # serenity: I have this vague memory (but I could be wrong) that screendumps don't work on AMSv2 devices because *all* USB handling is disabled 00.31.55 # <[7]> in case a cp15 c0 dump helps you: http://www.freemyipod.org/wiki/Nano_4G#Status_registers 00.32.01 # [7]: varies wildly depending on L2 cache controller 00.32.20 # gevaerts: ah, that sounds reasonable 00.32.23 # thanks 00.32.24 # <[7]> heh, this is an apple soc, so we'll probably never figure that out then 00.32.51 # hmm, doing a photo sucks on this small display 00.34.41 # <[7]> mcr p15, 0, r9,c7,c10,0 @ clean data cache 00.34.41 # <[7]> mcr p15, 0, r9,c7,c10,4 @ drain write buffer 00.34.41 # <[7]> mcr p15, 0, r9,c7,c5,4 @ flush branch target cache 00.34.41 # <[7]> mcr p15, 0, r9,c7,c5,5 @ flush prefetch buffer 00.34.41 # <[7]> mcr p15, 0, r9,c7,c5 @ invalidate instruction cache 00.34.42 *** Alert Mode level 1 00.34.42 # <[7]> Torne: does this look better? 00.34.51 # may i use the pics from the wiki? 00.36.04 # [7]: pastebin etc is great 00.36.05 # serenity: I don't really see why not. If you want your own screenshots, you can use the simulator though 00.36.32 # <[7]> kugel: for 6+ lines, I agree :) 00.36.50 # but is usb in the simulator also disabled? 00.37.06 # <[7]> well, you can at least screenshot the simulator by other means :) 00.37.11 # [7]: also for less lines 00.37.15 # [7]: branch predict flush is allegedly c5,7 00.37.21 # especially if they have weird chars 00.37.26 # alas this was not *quite* standard in armv6 00.37.33 # so documentation is.. wibbly 00.37.44 # [7]: sure :) 00.37.52 # this is what the mmu-armv6.S also does 00.38.23 # oh no, " mcr p15, 0, r0, c7, c5, 4 @ Flush prefetch buffer (IMB)" 00.38.39 # thanks alot 00.38.49 # <[7]> another document says it's c5,6 :P 00.39.06 # <[7]> ,7 is by MVA 00.39.07 Join mshathlonxp [0] (~athlonmpp@5ad4efa9.bb.sky.com) 00.39.34 # Oh, yeah, sorry 00.39.35 # c5,6 00.39.47 # anyway 00.39.55 # the beast is an arm1136r0 if i rememebr correctly 00.40.15 # which is the first armv6 device (not armv6k) and implements a number of exciting things very subtly differently 00.40.34 # so sadly it is possible that a couple of VMSA details differ very slightly 00.40.41 # alternatively the existing code is wrong 00.40.45 # :) 00.40.57 # The reference i would'veused which is "authoritative" is the symbian kernel code 00.41.01 # but i can't find a goddamn copy 00.41.19 # <[7]> this one is an r4 00.41.29 # yah, but it's arm1176 00.41.36 # which is designed much later and is always v6k 00.42.00 # <[7]> huge mess, eh? 00.42.07 # 1136r0 is kinda arm's slightly dodgy should've-been-a-prototype one 00.42.35 # the only plain v6 device afaik, all the others are v6k and implement the important missing bits :) 00.42.41 # even 1136r1 00.43.54 # * Torne needs to go sleep; good luck with that. i'll try and dig up the symbian code somewhere tomorrow and give you an authoritative list of how to do all cache/mmu ops on every ARM version ;) 00.44.12 # because i know for sure the symbian code is right and it's much easier to follow than linux's 00.44.43 *** Alert Mode OFF 00.44.49 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 00.48.29 # <[7]> Torne: so does this sound correct? c10,0 c10,4 c5,0 c5,6 c5,4 00.49.07 # er, possibly 00.49.23 Quit Horschti (Quit: Verlassend) 00.49.58 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 00.58.20 Quit keyb_gr (Remote host closed the connection) 01.00.59 Quit neferty (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 01.02.52 Join neferty [0] (~andor@173.242.127.201) 01.03.56 Quit d3remark (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 01.10.33 Quit ender` (Quit: The likelihood of Perl being involved in a system is directly proportional to the length of time the system has been in maintenance.) 01.14.59 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 01.15.26 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@p5DD56AB6.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.15.26 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 01.15.26 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 01.16.35 Quit Judas_PhD (Client Quit) 01.23.27 Quit GermanMushroom (Quit: Ik ga weg) 01.25.08 Part serenity ("Konversation terminated!") 01.25.50 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 01.31.31 Quit liar (Quit: hallowed are the ori!) 01.36.02 # * [7] hates subtle problems like nothing else 01.36.46 # <[7]> just found out that, when using our hardware init code, the SDRAM on my ipod has a high bit error rate 01.36.48 Quit Horscht (Quit: Verlassend) 01.36.54 # <[7]> like 1 in 1000 bits is flipped 01.37.28 # <[7]> and if i read the same data again, the positions of the bit errors change => problem with the interface? 01.46.05 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@c-76-28-198-27.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 01.46.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.47.56 # gevaerts: usb detection is implemented on AMSv2 01.49.32 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.49.33 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 01.51.09 # gevaerts: hm maybe i spoke too fast, charging detection is implemented but not usb. seems weird, we should be able to detect USB insertion without rebooting to OF 01.51.10 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 01.52.06 # funman: I seem to remember that the disabling is rather thorough 01.54.47 Quit Judas_PhD (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 01.55.46 Join factor [0] (~factor@74.197.205.204) 02.05.34 # gevaerts: I updated the wiki page and FS#12159 and added FS#12186 (in time for the upcoming mid-term evaluations I hope) according to my current state 02.05.35 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12159 3GSoC/Buflib: Remove direct audiobuf accesses (patches, new) 02.05.35 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12186 3GSoC/Buflib: Put extended buflib into core (patches, new) 02.06.28 # kugel: thanks! 02.06.45 Join Strife1989 [0] (~Strife89@207-144-19-39.cstel.net) 02.12.20 Nick Strife89 is now known as D-Strife89 (~Strife89@207-144-19-39.cstel.net) 02.12.25 Nick Strife1989 is now known as Strife89 (~Strife89@207-144-19-39.cstel.net) 02.22.19 # gevaerts: hopefully that will make the evaluation easier for you ;) 02.22.41 # kugel: it definitely will. That's my job for tomorrow evening :) 02.24.53 # * kugel wonders about wtachi's status 02.30.27 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 02.31.12 # <[7]> who owns fs-bluebot btw? 02.33.28 # bluebrother 02.34.25 Quit dfkt (Client Quit) 02.44.21 Quit Thra11 (Quit: kthxbai) 02.48.29 Quit ReimuHakurei (Quit: If I use this, I will disappear, and Shana-tan will remain...) 02.54.59 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@p5DD56AB6.dip.t-dialin.net) 02.54.59 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 02.54.59 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 03.00.44 Join antil33t [0] (~antil33t@124-197-33-15.callplus.net.nz) 03.03.41 # gevaerts: r27837 only tells about rebooting, usb detection is reliable though 03.34.51 Quit amiconn (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03.34.57 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 03.35.01 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 03.43.59 Quit tchan (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 03.46.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.48.22 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 04.15.49 Quit [7] (Disconnected by services) 04.16.00 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.18.53 Join d3remark [0] (~kramer@ip98-169-188-142.dc.dc.cox.net) 04.21.52 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 04.25.50 Quit d3remark (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 04.34.51 Part domonoky1 04.37.22 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.37.23 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.37.26 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.38.38 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.38.40 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.38.44 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.41.42 Quit funman (Quit: leaving) 04.50.17 Join ReimuHakurei [0] (~reimu@74.112.212.15) 05.06.33 Join Rob2223 [0] (~Miranda@p4FFF22C3.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.11.05 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 05.24.19 Quit tchan (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.26.09 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 05.38.21 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05.39.36 Quit boghog (Quit: boghog) 05.46.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.12.58 Quit fdinel (Quit: Miranda IM! 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I thought it was the low-end version of players 11.46.43 # the ipods are dual 80 MHz 11.46.52 # oh 11.46.59 # the irivers/iaudios single core 120 MHz 11.47.04 # well, up to ipod video 11.47.18 # So yeah, it isn't the most powerful, but it is pretty good :) 11.47.48 # One version of the clip is rather lacking in RAM though IIRC 11.48.45 # anyway, a very minor point :) 11.49.55 Join HaimN [0] (~quassel@31.44.132.244) 11.51.40 Quit HaimN_ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 11.53.44 Quit sideral (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 11.54.26 # ok, good to know 11.55.38 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 11.56.32 Quit sideral (Remote host closed the connection) 11.56.50 Quit HaimN (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 11.57.31 Join HaimN [0] (~quassel@212.76.103.102) 11.57.43 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 12.00.59 # gevaerts: I also pushed the work to repo.or.cz now (gsoc2-buflib-insertion2, but it's subject to rebasing) 12.02.09 Quit HaimN (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 12.02.29 Join HaimN [0] (~quassel@212.76.104.30) 12.06.47 Quit sideral (Remote host closed the connection) 12.08.00 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 12.10.21 Quit HaimN (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 12.13.42 Join HaimN [0] (~quassel@212.76.115.242) 12.15.01 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 12.21.56 Quit robin0800 (Remote host closed the connection) 12.24.28 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@149.254.234.247) 12.27.28 Quit GermanMushroom (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 12.29.08 # Wasn't there a size restriction on the "Building DB %d found" phrase for archosplayer? 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16.36.50 # Hotaru_: doesn't rockbox utility give you a link? 16.37.01 # not to a file 16.37.16 # it links me to the sansa forum where the only thing I can get is the downloader 16.37.26 # and the wiki on rockbox, which in turn links to the forum 16.38.20 # As far as I can see, that forum page also has a link to a zip file 16.40.25 # * Hotaru_ goes to check again 16.40.44 # Look for "Manual Firmware Update download and Instructions" 16.40.54 # where do you see that? 16.41.12 # on the sandisk forum? 16.41.14 # yes 16.44.08 # feel free to call me stupid 16.45.37 # hm, maybe the link from the manual and from rockbox utility is different? 16.45.39 # * gevaerts checks 16.47.34 # right, rockbox utility links to the forum main page. 16.48.02 # Have a look at http://forums.sandisk.com/t5/Clip-Clip/Sansa-Clip-Firmware-01-01-35-amp-02-01-35-Release/td-p/144965 16.48.06 # The download is in there 16.48.19 # The manual links to a page I think 16.48.32 # yes, it does. 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Then reinstall the original firmware. 19.53.41 # well I did just format it when in the default sansa OS. 19.53.41 # so I guess now I could just reinstall the original firmware? 19.53.41 # right, so now reinstall the OF 19.53.41 # k 19.53.41 DBUG Enqueued KICK Roasted 19.53.41 # thanks 19.58.02 Join d3remark [0] (~kramer@ip98-169-188-142.dc.dc.cox.net) 20.00.52 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@84.93.177.229) 20.06.51 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 20.08.02 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 20.12.12 # AlexP: Rockbox Utility links to a Sandisk forum thread. Maybe that URL got changes (I wasn't too fond of linking to a specific thread directly anyway since it's much harder to update that in case of changes compared to a wiki page or the manual) 20.12.24 # much harder as in it takes longer until deployed. 20.13.07 Quit ReimuHakurei_ (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 20.14.21 # hmm, seems my memory was serving me wrong. 20.15.08 # anyway, I'd prefer linking to the manual and wiki only anyway. 20.15.37 # strange, I really thought it links to the forum thread. 20.19.39 # AlexP: either way, funman added that link to Rockbox Utility so you need to ask him :) 20.21.24 # peraps the idea was to link to the last firmware upgrade 20.24.44 # bluebroth3r: Rockbox Utility linking to the manual is a very good idea 20.25.30 # AlexP: ah, of course: the bootloader installation class doesn't know about the selected player model, so it can't provide a deep link based on that. 20.26.10 # Rockbox Utility _is_ linking to the manual (and it was linking to the manual even before the link to the Sandisk forums was there :) 20.26.29 # but maybe some kind of link-only wiki page would make sense. 20.27.19 Quit bertrik (Read error: Connection timed out) 20.27.53 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 20.27.53 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 20.27.53 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 20.30.07 # bluebroth3r: make: *** No rule to make target `icons/rockbox-clef.svg', needed by `build/rcc/qrc_rbutilqt.cpp'. Stop. 20.31.07 # did you forget to commit it? 20.34.48 # funman: no, that file was moved. 20.34.48 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 20.34.48 # * bluebroth3r checks 20.36.26 # looks ok here. Have you also updated the docs folder? 20.37.14 # not thinking it made a difference. 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23.22.53 # ArmyMan007: its an operating system for mp3 players, thats pretty much the whole idea 23.22.59 # its a unofficial software for MP3 players 23.23.38 # i think it's great.. an open source to an MP3... how far can we go with this? 23.23.41 # LD 23.23.41 # :D 23.23.46 # oh ha thats what the first setence of the wikipedia page says 23.24.15 # does it temper with the firmware or just the OS itself? 23.25.00 # its a complete OS 23.25.21 # it replaces the firmware thats why it can only run on selected devices 23.25.22 # and generally for mp3 players firmware and OS mean the same thing 23.26.28 # what if i want to remove it and use the original OS? is there any way or is it permanent? 23.26.28 # most devices dual boot 23.26.28 # check the manual for whichever one you have 23.26.28 # mine is a sansa clip + 23.26.28 # i'll guess i 23.26.28 DBUG Enqueued KICK ArmyMan007 23.26.28 # i'll guess i'll take a look at the manul... 23.26.35 # although no one ever reads the manual! :D 23.26.42 # even if there is no dual boot rockbox can be uninstalled 23.26.53 # since we don't have USB working on the Clip+ yet, you'd be using the OF a lot to transfer files 23.27.14 # OF? 23.27.38 # original firmware 23.27.50 # got it... 23.28.26 # basically i can just do a trial and error job with this MP3, it doesn't have much space anyway and it is getting a bit old.. 23.28.44 # well.. better get working on it! thanks a bunch! l8er! :D 23.29.23 Quit ArmyMan007 (Quit: HydraIRC -> http://www.hydrairc.com <- Go on, try it!) 23.30.00 # i'm playing with watchi's codeclib now 23.30.21 # the test program works nicely, decodes all rockbox formats i've tested, and so far everything works great 23.30.29 # even gapless for mp3s 23.30.46 # very cool 23.33.27 # just getting into the changes, but so far nothing too ugly 23.45.25 Quit petur (Quit: Leaving) 23.50.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.54.58 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 23.57.36 Quit n1s (Remote host closed the connection)