--- Log for 21.07.111 Server: zelazny.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 10 days and 4 hours ago 00.02.52 Quit keyb_gr (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 00.05.17 # New commit by 03bertrik (r30182): ipod nano 1g: enable LCD invert 00.05.23 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@f048010126.adsl.alicedsl.de) 00.05.41 Join Xerion_ [0] (~xerion@5419A766.cm-5-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) 00.08.03 Join FOAD_ [0] (~dok@83.161.135.61) 00.08.26 # r30182 build result: All green 00.08.41 Join niekie_ [0] (~niek@CAcert/Assurer/niekie) 00.08.53 Join B4gder [241] (~daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 00.10.52 Join tchan1 [0] (~tchan@c-69-243-144-187.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 00.10.53 Quit GeekShadow (Remote host closed the connection) 00.11.18 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@82.203.120.78.rev.sfr.net) 00.11.19 Quit GeekShadow (Changing host) 00.11.19 Join GeekShadow [0] (~Antoine@reactos/tester/GeekShadow) 00.13.51 Quit FOAD (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 00.13.51 Quit niekie (Read error: Connection 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The Video is one iiuc. 09.02.41 # <[Saint]> I like the LCD to sleep (if possible) from a power saving POV 09.03.35 # <[Saint]> I would also like very much for the LCD to be able to sleep on the Color 09.03.53 # The trouble with the nano 1g LCD is that we rely completely on the apple bootloader (as far as I understand) to initialise the LCD + controller 09.04.20 # <[Saint]> We do? 09.04.29 # <[Saint]> The Apple FW can be removed completely. 09.04.31 # To modify 1 specific bit in an LCD register, I need to know the value of the other bits (but I don't) 09.05.33 # <[Saint]> I currently have only Rockbox on my Nano1Gs and no OF...perhaps I'm missunderstanding, or the bootloader is located outside the OSOS? 09.05.43 Quit mdipolt (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 09.14.17 Quit [Saint] (Quit: Imagination is for turbo-nerds who can't handle how kick-butt reality is. I'm a kick-butt reality master! I would rather die, than be imaginative. 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Running on Samsung Galaxy Tab. 13.10.21 # http://obscure.tistory.com/attachment/cfile24.uf@145E81354E28071135E891.txt 13.14.49 Join K3yn5t4 [0] (bnc@ks359276.kimsufi.com) 13.17.40 Join GermanMushroom [0] (~c@s5146db6a.adsl.wanadoo.nl) 13.17.40 Join gbl08ma [0] (~gbl08ma@195-23-182-204.net.novis.pt) 13.22.58 # Hello everyone... I saw bertrik's commits regarding nano 1G LCD... 13.23.04 Nick kugelp is now known as kugel (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 13.24.37 # is it possible to scan the fm radio in smaller steps than 0.1? 13.25.04 # Obvious now I'm jealousy and want to invert my nano 2g LCD too, even if I never needed to do so before :) 13.25.54 # i have a sandisk sansaclip + (2gB version) 13.26.17 # isn't the nano 2g display just about the same as the 1g one? I think I read that somewhere in the wiki. 13.29.26 # GermanMushroom: look for the FM Region setting 13.29.54 # Tuner steps are region dependent 13.30.24 # You can go down to 50kHz by setting that to "other" 13.30.55 Join niekie [0] (~niek@CAcert/Assurer/niekie) 13.31.17 Quit niekie_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13.34.25 Join GodEater [0] (~bibble@cl-711.lon-02.gb.sixxs.net) 13.34.25 Quit GodEater (Changing host) 13.34.25 Join GodEater [0] (~bibble@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 13.37.08 Join drezon [0] (~skeller@2a01:238:4200:7e03:f2de:f1ff:fe4f:3584) 13.37.28 Join Jerom1 [0] (~jerome@79.132.63.238) 13.37.51 # * gbl08ma wonders if the guy who created the wiki page http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/MLua is around... 13.39.12 Quit krazykit (Read error: Operation timed out) 13.43.34 # On rockbox for android I don't get any audio output on 2.3.3 on a Samsung Galaxy S. It works on 2.2 on a Moto Milestone. Any ideas on how to debug this? 13.45.08 # look for errors in logcat 13.46.52 Quit Jerom1 (Quit: Leaving.) 13.51.54 # Torne: already did so. didn't see any 13.56.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.57.53 # drezon: Which build are you using? 13.59.03 # current svn (build myself). r30180 14.00.27 # doesnt the fm region only let you sellect wich region you live in, eg: europe, america? 14.00.38 # or am i confusing it with something else? 14.01.00 # * evilnick had trouble with rasher's builds so used http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,27394.msg182997.html#msg182997 (NOTE not the latest one from yesterday) which worked fine 14.01.00 Join the_kyle [0] (~kyle@71.23.64.127) 14.01.03 # oh wait 14.01.27 # sorry, didnt read all, ill try selecting different ones 14.01.58 # tho odd decision setting this per region, instead of plain and simple numbers 14.02.38 # GermanMushroom: why? *everyone* uses this mechanism, for the good reason that it matches actual usage 14.04.06 Nick kugel is now known as kugelp (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 14.05.09 # ok, i'll try that build. but the strange thing is my build works on milestone but doesn't on the sgs 14.05.37 # Oh, S1? 14.05.46 # * evilnick is running it on an S2 14.09.05 # Similar problem as drezon said, on 2.3.4 Samsung Galaxy Tab with r30180. Can't try forum's build as its res is 600x1024 14.12.04 # Here's dumpstate_app_error.txt: http://obscure.tistory.com/attachment/cfile10.uf@1435B4434E28140C275A7D.txt 14.16.31 # Maybee HeadphoneMonitor causes problem? Emulator starts working from r30173, but my target stops working. 14.17.19 # GermanMushroom: It changes a number of settings to match what are actually used in that region, hence you set the region 14.17.36 # Instead of expecting people to know what de-emphasis or whatever FM uses in their region 14.17.58 # i see 14.18.04 # never heard of de-emphasis 14.18.20 # So this is why we don't give you a list to choose from 14.18.48 # a few radiostations arent super clear, so thats why i want the stepping size to be smaller 14.24.31 Quit Zambezi (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.24.45 Join Zambezi [0] (Zulu@80.67.9.2) 14.26.20 Nick kugelp is now known as kugel (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 14.29.17 Join boghog [0] (~aphax@2001:980:34c7:0:1e6f:65ff:fe86:1e03) 14.36.00 Join mudd1 [0] (~cmertes@ip-78-94-202-227.unitymediagroup.de) 14.56.29 # evilnick: must be a rockbox bug then :) 14.59.17 # rasher: It does appear so :) 15.01.52 Quit boghog (Read error: No route to host) 15.03.44 Quit dfkt (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 15.04.33 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p5DE4B78C.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.05.33 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@87.114.72.235) 15.06.58 Join lasser [0] (~chatzilla@p57B58E09.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 15.10.02 # I wrote a small bash script to count wasps, bees or similar insects. For now I have to use my laptop to do this, but this is a little bit uncomfortable. What is a good starting point to port that script to rockbox, so I can use it with my Iriver H320? 15.12.28 # What exactly does it do? Try looking at some of the simpler plugins 15.13.15 # If you just want to press a button to increase a counter, that should be very simple 15.13.33 # Does the Iriver H320 have LUA support? 15.14.29 # Oh, good point. I forgot about LUA 15.17.25 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 15.18.02 # I can write a small counter app in LUA very quick, but it'll be useless if that iriver has no Lua support 15.18.45 # rasher: increase and decrease counters, yes. And, that will be a bonus, speak the numbers. And, of course, display them on the screen in a good way. Have a look at http://pastebin.com/taxehQWv 15.21.13 # I don't think the TTS part is doable in Rockbox... the counter is fairly simple though, and in my opinion it'd be simple enough to be written in LUA. 15.21.46 # (because otherwise you'll have to make a new build every time you want to test a small change...) 15.23.12 # Speaking just numbers could be done by having a rather limited number of clips 15.23.24 # gbl08ma: fairly simple to *you*. I never did something with rockbox or LUA :-) 15.25.31 # lasser: if you don't have a Rockbox development environment setup, LUA is still better than C even if you have no experience with any :) 15.26.56 # (a lua script only needs a text editor and a way to transfer files to the player, to write a C plugin you need to download the entire source code and setup the environment) 15.28.04 # How do I go about correcting spelling in Rockbox? 15.28.28 # If I change english.lang then all the sources in the other langs files, is that acceptable? 15.28.34 # And can genlang help me? 15.28.55 # The change is that catalogue should be spelt catalogue, but is catalog (the US version) in Rockbox 15.29.31 # * AlexP looks for rasher 15.29.50 # I believe it can! 15.29.55 # nice :) 15.30.02 # So, what would be the best procedure? 15.30.46 Quit GermanMushroom (Quit: Ik ga weg) 15.30.49 # I'm not at a PC right now, but change the string in all langs and commit 15.31.00 # Shouldn't bother anyone 15.31.05 # So source and dest in english, and source in all the others? 15.31.13 # Yep 15.31.21 # cool, thanks 15.31.34 # What about desc? - I can leave it if it causes issues 15.31.39 # But it'd be nice to be consistent 15.31.45 # AlexP: yesterday you said "catalog" in #rockbox! 15.31.54 # gevaerts: Once! :) 15.32.09 # Alex: same thing. 15.32.17 # OK, thanks 15.32.20 # * linuxstb wonders if anyone wants to try again to get rid of title case... 15.33.34 Join GermanMushroom [0] (~c@s5146db6a.adsl.wanadoo.nl) 15.33.46 # linuxstb: Yes, sort of 15.34.02 # linuxstb: As in I'd prefer it not to be there, but I not enough to have the fight :) 15.35.32 # Actually, I guess it is langtool I want 15.37.31 # AlexP: I thought the fight was won last time, but I never got round to actually finishing the patch properly. 15.37.38 # ah, maybe 15.37.43 # I can't remember :) 15.38.49 # IIRC, I needed to write a script to modify all the source strings in the other language files as well, and never got round to it. 15.39.27 # lasser: are you still there? 15.39.49 # gbl08ma: yes, I am. The H320 *has* LUA support, just verified it... 15.40.41 # lasser: Yes I checked too, and I quickly made a counter script, try: http://gbl08ma.cz.cc/dl/rb/lua/counter.lua (put anywhere on your player and "play" it) 15.41.53 # lasser: note that it doesn't save the count when exiting, do you want the script to do that? 15.43.43 # gbl08ma: Thank you very much! No, saving is not necessary. 15.46.43 # lasser: no problem :) I had been coding another LUA script before so I already had the text editor open and some code snippets on hand. 15.55.20 # linuxstb, AlexP: there is also an english-us now, re title case 15.56.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.56.36 # That's a good point 15.59.16 # rasher: http://paste.pocoo.org/show/443536/ :) 15.59.22 # A bit long :) 16.00.11 # When building, what's an easy way to make errors/warnings stand out so that I see them? 16.00.31 # AlexP: make 2>errors 16.00.42 # gevaerts: ta 16.00.50 # And then look at errors :) 16.01.04 # I'd managed that bit :) 16.01.21 # AlexP: looks fine at a glance 16.01.34 # rasher: cool, I'm just building a couple 16.03.05 # I've just realised that for the manual changes for the playlist stuff there needs to be several million screenshots :/ 16.03.25 # rasher: Did you ever win with the auto generating them? 16.04.01 # Not really 16.04.23 # shame :) 16.04.43 # I think I was close, but it needs someone who understands Rockbox better 16.04.50 # gbl08ma: sorry for the lag, I just broke my chair in two parts. Who said that sitting at a desk writing some words is not dangerous? Shame on him! 16.05.59 # * gbl08ma wonders how many persons have broken chairs while logged in the Rockbox IRC... 16.07.01 Quit keyb_gr (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 16.12.05 Join keyb_gr [0] (~chatzilla@p4FF03AAC.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.13.01 Quit bluefoxx (Quit: bluefoxx) 16.13.24 # New commit by 03alex (r30186): Correct spelling of catalogue. 16.14.31 Join bluefoxx [0] (fuzzylomba@S0106e0cb4e0a6d8a.vs.shawcable.net) 16.14.45 # arent we using us spelling for everything that isnt colour? :) 16.16.45 # r30186 build result: All green 16.16.56 # JdGordon: I think so :) 16.17.02 # No. 16.17.29 # english.lang is British English 16.18.48 # Where else can we see differences between english.lang and english-us.lang? (I guess I could do a diff, but I'm too lazy) 16.21.09 # Any place where US English differs from English 16.21.17 # gbl08ma: I will use your script as a start. But it's does not exactly what I want to do it, I want to use at least two keys to count, in case of the H320 the keys + and -. But left/play and right/record and STOP should be used too. 16.21.32 # * evilnick is still FUMING that Apple designated English and UK English as separate languages 16.22.05 # <[Saint]> evilnick: there's "International English", "UK English" and "American English". 16.22.42 # lasser: I don't know which number the do_menu function returns for these keys in the H300, I know that on iPods, the Menu key retruns -1 and the back key returns -2. 16.22.48 # <[Saint]> the differences between International/UK are subtle. 16.23.28 # lasser: but I tell you, I shouldn't be using numbers to guess keypresses. Rockbox has its own libraries for key names IIRC, I just don't use them in my scripts. 16.24.16 # lasser: if you could share your modifications of the script with us, it'd be nice :) I could post them on my blog if you give permission. 16.24.38 # * linuxstb compares english and english-us and wonders about "scrollbar" vs "scroll bar" 16.25.32 # <[Saint]> linuxstb: I wondered about that too when I saw it. 16.25.39 # <[Saint]> I think its a little bit BS, really. 16.26.33 # <[Saint]> the author just basically didn't like UK English, and apparently saw it as an excuse to change a few other things too ;) 16.26.35 # gbl08ma: of course I will share the code! But be patient, I have to learn from scratch... But: Isn't there a possibility to automagically port something from bash to LUA? 16.27.07 # lasser: I don't think so... plus, you'd need to remove that part about espeak from the bash script 16.28.44 # gbl08ma: yeah, I know. TTS is a bonus and the last on the list. 16.29.35 # lasser: you'll find lua not to be very difficult... I find bash more complex than lua. 16.30.19 # IMO the problem with lua in Rockbox is the lack of the math library, which makes many scripts found on the internet not to be convertible for use in Rockbox. 16.30.32 # gbl08ma: Do you know a good and easy guide for LUA? Perhaps especially for Rockbox? 16.33.41 Join gbl08ma_ [0] (~gbl08ma_@195-23-182-89.net.novis.pt) 16.34.18 # I think I saw on some to-do list about lua saying there was a fixed-point replacement for the math library, but it hasn't been implemented yet 16.34.41 Quit gbl08ma (Ping timeout: 257 seconds) 16.35.30 # lasser: the Rockbox wiki page about LUA is the place where you'll most documentation and some code examples... 16.36.32 # gbl08ma_: you mean http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/PluginLua? 16.36.48 # lasser: yes 16.37.47 # <[Saint]> and the LUA website, of course. 16.38.07 # yes, obviously :) lua.org and lua-users.org 16.38.34 # thanks! 16.38.51 # currently I'm looking for some fixed-point lua math library, it'd add a great amount of lua compatibility to rockbox. 16.45.54 Join kadoban_ [0] (~kadoban@ip98-165-177-158.ph.ph.cox.net) 17.05.53 # gbl08ma_: Where can I find the key names which I can use in lua and how do I use them? 17.06.53 # lasser: I don't know, to be honest, I don't think anyone here on the channel knows much about lua. I'm perhaps one of the persons who experimented more with it, but my knowledge is very poor. 17.09.05 Join gbl08ma [0] (~gbl08ma@195-23-182-89.net.novis.pt) 17.10.01 Part gbl08ma_ 17.11.07 Quit keyb_gr (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 17.13.56 Nick gbl08ma is now known as gbl08ma_ (~gbl08ma@195-23-182-89.net.novis.pt) 17.15.13 Nick gbl08ma_ is now known as gbl08ma (~gbl08ma@195-23-182-89.net.novis.pt) 17.17.37 Quit Zambezi (Changing host) 17.17.38 Join Zambezi [0] (Zulu@unaffiliated/zambezi) 17.18.43 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 17.20.04 Join z180 [0] (~chatzilla@ip-109-45-181-165.web.vodafone.de) 17.21.46 # i have not coded in lua but i had allegro,it had a fixed point 3d renderer 17.22.30 Join wtachi [0] (~wtachi@cpe-065-190-012-236.nc.res.rr.com) 17.26.06 Join FOAD_ [0] (~dok@83.161.135.61) 17.27.07 Quit FOAD_ (Remote host closed the connection) 17.34.06 Join hogbog [0] (~aphax@2001:980:34c7:0:1e6f:65ff:fe86:1e03) 17.36.09 Join keyb_gr [0] (~chatzilla@p4FF03AAC.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.49.51 Quit saratoga (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 17.50.17 # I give up. I can't figure out how use the keys of the H320. Sad. Thanks for your help. 17.51.06 # lasser: I'll see what I can do... do you have an account on the forums? 17.53.24 # gbl08ma_: yes I have. It is named *lassowski* 17.56.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.56.26 # <[Saint]> pluginlib handles all the keymaps for plaugins does it not?Or, it can, rather. 17.56.37 # <[Saint]> *plugins too 17.57.30 Quit Thra11 (Remote host closed the connection) 17.57.52 # <[Saint]> iiuc, one of the functions of pluginlib is to provide a basic keymap for plugins to use. 17.58.29 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@vit94-1-82-67-248-70.fbx.proxad.net) 17.58.30 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 17.58.30 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 18.00.34 # [Saint]: if the plugin wants a very simple set of buttons, yes 18.00.43 # it doesn't do it "for you" though 18.00.58 # there is not just a functoin that tells you waht button is pressed :) 18.01.05 # you have to pass it the right context magic and so on 18.01.39 # lasser: look at the code for the existing lua plugins, no? 18.03.54 # IIRC the lua plugin pixel-painter works with device's buttons using Rockbox's libraries. 18.05.57 Quit z180 (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 3.6.18/20110614230723]) 18.07.19 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 18.09.40 Quit bug2000 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18.10.23 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 18.11.32 Quit mdipolt (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 18.26.49 Quit the_kyle (Quit: Lost terminal) 18.26.57 Join Efrath [0] (~53fcb68c@giant.haxx.se) 18.28.06 Join Strife1989 [0] (~Strife89@207-144-19-39.cstel.net) 18.28.50 Quit D-Strife89 (Read error: Operation timed out) 18.28.59 Quit swilde (Remote host closed the connection) 18.31.02 # Hello, just a new person briefly passing by to ask, does Rockbox work on iAudio D2+? I know it supposedly works on Cowon iAudio D2, but I was unsure if it worked on the D2+. 18.33.33 # I can't recall where I saw that there was a fixed point replacement for lua's math lib... I'd say it was either on the apps/plugins/lua/README file, or on the PluginLua wiki page... 18.37.46 # Torne: you mean from the rockbox wiki page?of course... 18.39.06 # lasser: no, he means the existing lua plugins on the tracker (currently the only one usable is pixel-painter.lua I think) 18.40.03 # I found the lua-math-library-for-fixed-point-thing, it's not really a lib, but a patch: http://lua-users.org/wiki/LuaPowerPatches (scroll to LNUM number mode patch) 18.44.24 # not just in the tracker, there is at least one in the actual tree 18.47.00 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.47.27 # yes, there's boomshine.lua on all builds. 18.49.38 # and helloworld.lua on the svn tree 18.52.31 Quit Efrath (Quit: CGI:IRC) 18.58.23 Join mshathlonxp [0] (~athlonmpp@5ad4ef88.bb.sky.com) 18.59.00 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 18.59.00 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 18.59.00 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 19.01.09 Join gbl08ma_ [0] (~gbl08ma@195-23-182-110.net.novis.pt) 19.03.24 Join n1s [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/n1s) 19.03.29 Quit gomsemari1 (Quit: CGI:IRC) 19.03.46 Quit gbl08ma (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 19.04.08 Join factor [0] (~factor@74.197.205.204) 19.06.10 Quit mikroflops (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.08.25 Join mikroflops [0] (~yogurt@h-34-156.a238.priv.bahnhof.se) 19.12.22 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 19.13.48 Join [Saint] [0] (~st.lasciv@124-197-58-10.callplus.net.nz) 19.15.28 # [Saint], I can probably turn enable/disable the LCD on the nano 1g, but I'm not sure I can fully put it in sleep state 19.18.00 Nick gbl08ma_ is now known as gbl08ma (~gbl08ma@195-23-182-110.net.novis.pt) 19.22.40 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@87-206-240-131.dynamic.chello.pl) 19.24.07 Quit mikroflops (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 19.24.34 # bertrik: Try and battery_bench it. 19.29.37 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@p5DD574D0.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.29.37 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 19.29.37 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.29.54 # wodz, actually, I hate that, it takes so long 19.30.02 Join mikroflops [0] (~yogurt@h-34-156.a238.priv.bahnhof.se) 19.30.05 # well maybe not on this nano 1g with old battery 19.31.05 Quit factor (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 19.31.29 Join mshaxp [0] (~athlonmpp@5ad4ef88.bb.sky.com) 19.33.05 Quit mshathlonxp (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.33.39 # with app.lds like this: http://www.pastie.org/2249515 I get /home/wodz/rockbox-git/build/ram.link:84: non constant or forward reference address expression for section .audiobufend 19.33.39 # collect2: ld returned 1 exit status 19.33.49 # any Idea what I screwed up? 19.35.45 Nick mshaxp is now known as mshathlonxp (~athlonmpp@5ad4ef88.bb.sky.com) 19.35.50 Quit mikroflops (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 19.42.57 Join mikroflops [0] (~yogurt@h-34-156.a238.priv.bahnhof.se) 19.46.26 # ok figured out 19.56.11 # why is the internal sample format (in dsp.c) 28.4? 19.56.16 Join Staphylo [0] (staphylo@hyperion.epimeros.org) 19.56.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.57.51 # I managed to convert my resampling stuff (the core of it) to fixed point. But I expect the samples as 16 bits (or 0.16 as int32s). 19.59.39 # And even with this the sinc can only have a fractional part of 14 bits (maybe I'll get it to 16. this is just a first hack). 20.09.19 Quit gbl08ma (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.19.53 # drezon, how many taps do you use? 20.20.35 # 15 20.23.34 Join leif [0] (~leif@155-99-240-164.uconnect.utah.edu) 20.28.18 Join user890104 [0] (~Venci@213.226.63.148) 20.30.09 Quit drezon (Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish) 20.39.48 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@24.229.139.169.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) 20.45.48 Join leavittx [0] (~leavittx@89.221.199.187) 20.49.12 Quit leavittx (Client Quit) 20.51.07 Join leavittx [0] (~lev@89.221.199.187) 20.54.01 Part leif ("Leaving") 21.03.38 Quit leavittx (Quit: Ухожу я от вас) 21.04.01 Join leavittx [0] (~leavittx@89.221.199.187) 21.09.47 # New commit by 03bertrik (r30187): FS#12180 - slovak lang update by Peter Lecký 21.12.57 # r30187 build result: All green 21.17.53 # New commit by 03bertrik (r30188): FS#12193 - Polish translation refresh by Wojciech Leśniak 21.19.40 # hm 21.20.19 # * mshathlonxp should finally finish some latvian translation cleanup and upload it 21.20.41 # r30188 build result: All green 21.21.43 Join misspapaya [0] (~dconcors@66-214-64-77.dhcp.snlo.ca.charter.com) 21.22.24 # I'm trying to install the rockbox kernel to the firmware partition of a nano2g. is that easy to do or should I give up? 21.23.38 # who do you want to do so? 21.24.13 # I'm assuming you mean why, and cause it'll boot faster and I don't have to worry about accidentally loading the apple firmware 21.24.33 # instead you have to worry about accidentally erasing all of rockbox's settings 21.24.43 # :) 21.25.01 # well, nano already boots fast and I can't see what bad could happen if you will accidentally load apple's firmware 21.25.03 # do not install rockbox that way unless you are using a custom build with hold-switch-resets-settings compiled out 21.25.23 # the nano2g saves very little boot time by installing rockbox to the firmware 21.25.33 # I guess 1 sec max :) 21.25.39 # mshathlonxp: substantially less 21.25.47 # even nicer 21.25.49 # i suspect more like 300ms 21.25.53 # if that 21.26.01 # after my ipod video my 1g nano seems to boot very fast :) 21.26.27 # anyway, yes, if you do that with a normal rockbox build and then plug it in with the hold switch enabled it will, instad of booting the OF, boot rockbox and erase all your settings. 21.26.33 # So, don't do that 21.27.01 # is there an explanation somewhere about how an ipod nano 1g boots? 21.27.12 # and btw one more reason why to keep original crappy firmware is if some beta or self compiled rockbox builds are being used 21.27.26 # may save restoring ipod :) 21.27.58 # * mshathlonxp remembers testing rockbox compiled by someone which hung when connected to PC 21.28.11 # misspapaya: anyway. the advantages of doing it are very, very small on the nano2g, and it will require that you use a custom build, and if you can't work out how tod o it by reading the ipodpatcher documentation then you are probably not in a position where it's a good idea for you to do it 21.28.34 # oh, it didn't hung, it crashed 21.28.38 # i hope that helps :) 21.29.04 Join drezon [0] (~skeller@dslb-088-073-117-034.pools.arcor-ip.net) 21.30.08 Join d3remark [0] (~kramer@ip98-169-188-142.dc.dc.cox.net) 21.30.13 # Torne: I know how to use ipodpatcher cause I've done it on the nano1g, it's just that the sector size is reported as 2k on the nano2g 21.30.34 # the sector size is a variety of things on a variety of ipods, yes 21.30.43 # and ipodpatcher is not quite the same on the nano2g 21.30.55 # we handle the firmware partition differently 21.31.08 # the normal install process for the bootloader is different also 21.31.20 # so having used it on the nano1g is not super helpful 21.31.28 # ok 21.31.37 # I'll just stick with the standard install for now then 21.31.51 # Torne: have you looked at usb charging issue on mini? 21.32.04 # wodz: i've not looked at it any more, no; we diagnosed the problem already 21.32.12 # i haven't had a chance to look at maybe attacking the usb core to fix it for all devices forever :) 21.32.23 Quit GeekShadow (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 21.32.31 # go for it :-) 21.32.34 # misspapaya: what you probably actually want is for the hold switch to stop being the dual boot option on ipods, which I am planning on solving sometime when i have the time 21.32.40 # because then you won't load the OF by accident 21.32.53 # the boot time difference really is minute on all the flash-based ipods, it only helps on disk-based ones 21.33.20 # why do we currently use the hold switch to decide at dual boot 21.33.33 # bertrik: reading the menu button at boot time was not reliable for all people/models 21.33.39 # ok well I gotta go. thanks for the help 21.33.41 Part misspapaya 21.33.45 Join HaimN [0] (~quassel@212.76.124.204) 21.33.46 # I suspect the reasons behind this have been fixed 21.33.51 # I will produce test builds to check :) 21.34.07 # but before the bootloadder can be changed we need to change the actual app not to erase all its settings if the hold switch is on 21.34.15 # and this proved not entirely trivial when i tried at devcon 21.34.22 # it's a bugger reading the state of the buttons at boot time on ipodvideo 21.34.39 # it's some crazy interrupt driven i2c dedicated channel with hardware decoder bullshit 21.34.42 # oh, are they on some kind of bus? 21.34.46 # ah 21.34.54 # if you read it at boot yuou get zero 21.34.59 # no matter what buttons are pressed 21.35.08 # i got bored of trying to work around it 21.35.22 # it's possible, just not trivial or obvious 21.35.25 # it just needs more work 21.35.31 # then we need to actually do at least one release with that change in 21.35.36 # and *then* maybe we can change the bootloader 21.36.17 # (i might see if i can make this backward compatible by boot versioning foo that i allowed for when i gave rockbox a signature on ipod, but hey) :) 21.36.18 Join alouette [0] (~alouette@APuteaux-652-1-21-161.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr) 21.36.44 Nick alouette is now known as tekkeitserktok (~alouette@APuteaux-652-1-21-161.w82-120.abo.wanadoo.fr) 21.36.49 # hey ! 21.37.37 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@207.144.201.128) 21.37.42 # but what's the point to change existing situation? 21.37.48 # it's dumb 21.37.57 # people frequently boot the OF by accident and then don't know how to get out 21.37.57 # maybe before connect cable to ipod first check lock switch position? 21.38.20 # also, you cannot do my favourite use case which is to turn the player on then immediately put it on hold and drop it in your pocket, knowing it will autoresume 21.38.26 # (i have a patched bootloader and build to make this work) :) 21.38.58 # if you manage to time it unluckily it's far too easy a way to reset all your settings by mistake, also :) 21.39.24 # hm 21.39.28 # what's the point to lock ipod? 21.39.37 # er, because i'm putting it in my pocket? 21.39.40 # so? 21.39.58 # ..i don't want the volume to change up and down at random as it brushes against things that happen to be capacitive? 21.40.07 # * mshathlonxp is always listening music in work with ipod in pocket [fortunately overalls in work has hoods, so nobody sees headphones] 21.40.09 # or for it to skip tracks any time i bump into something? 21.40.19 # Or try to get it out your pocket 21.40.26 # yeah, that too 21.40.45 # I guess we are using our ipods differently 21.40.51 # yes, probably :) 21.40.58 # * mshathlonxp enjoys ability to change tracks and volume without removing it from pocket 21.41.04 # Are you seriously suggesting that you don't see the point of hold? 21.41.09 # * AlexP is yet again amazed 21.41.10 # right, but this change doesn't make it any harder for you 21.41.24 # you can already boot the OF by powering on by pressing and holding menu 21.41.27 # this has always worked 21.41.28 # I see, but I can't see any point of it for me 21.41.32 # So? 21.41.41 # who cares if there's any point for you? 21.41.41 # it's just switch I can switch on/off when I have nothing to do :D 21.41.49 # I couldn't care less what it does for you 21.41.58 # You asked why bother changing it 21.42.20 # "i don't care" is a valid reason for *you* not to do it, it's not a valid reason for someone else not to do it :) 21.43.28 # Torne: He seems to have trouble with the concept that what he wants isn't the only thing that counts, this has come up before 21.43.42 # well, I guess a couple of rockbox inconviences [for me] are because rockbox is being created to suit usage habbits of developers :) 21.44.22 # mshathlonxp: are you saying that you will be inconvenienced if you can't use the hold switch to boot the OF and/or erase your settings any more? 21.44.31 # because that would be a valid objection, if you explained yourself 21.44.43 # we might not care, but it's still valid 21.45.24 # well, as far as there is a way how to boot OF, I don't care about that hold on powerup 21.45.29 # I meant some other things ;) 21.47.16 # ok, so if you don't object to this then don't say something that sounds like an objection, dude 21.52.03 Nick d3remark is now known as kramer3d (~kramer@ip98-169-188-142.dc.dc.cox.net) 21.56.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.57.15 # Torne: gbl08ma: Just for the records, I'm to dumb to get access to the keys 21.57.33 # I give up. Bye! 21.57.41 Part lasser 22.01.45 Quit mshathlonxp (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.02.23 Join mshathlonxp [0] (~athlonmpp@5ad4ef88.bb.sky.com) 22.03.54 Join antil33t [0] (~antil33t@124-197-33-15.callplus.net.nz) 22.11.07 # * bertrik is slightly annoyed at IAP stopping to work when going into the debug menu trying to diagnose it 22.14.13 Quit evilnick (Quit: Leaving) 22.18.12 # oh, must be my own code 22.21.35 Join L-Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@207.144.201.128) 22.24.44 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 22.25.14 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 22.25.26 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 22.32.36 Join pamaury_ [0] (~quassel@vit94-1-82-67-248-70.fbx.proxad.net) 22.32.42 Quit pamaury_ (Remote host closed the connection) 22.34.22 Quit evilnick (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 22.36.10 Quit GermanMushroom (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 22.38.08 Quit Horscht (Quit: Verlassend) 22.39.55 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@p5DD574D0.dip.t-dialin.net) 22.39.55 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 22.39.55 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 22.43.00 Quit user890104 () 22.50.26 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@f049105110.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.50.59 Quit Topy44 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.59.29 Join krazykit [0] (~krazykit@206.183.185.8) 23.00.19 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 23.02.12 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 23.08.30 Quit leavittx (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 23.09.14 # to chime in on the previous discussion, i find the erase settings on boot feature fairly useless 23.10.46 Quit AlexP (Read error: Operation timed out) 23.14.27 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 23.18.19 # bah, I don't quite get this (knockoff) remote: it appears to send a no-button packet immediately after sending a button with a volume button report, even when the volume button is held 23.19.06 Join echelon [0] (~echelon@gateway/tor-sasl/harel) 23.19.10 # hi 23.19.19 # I thought it was just supposed to send a bitmap of buttons pressed, nothing more nothing less 23.19.25 # how can i tell if my sansa c200 is a v1 or v2 23.20.04 # check the firmware version in the original firmware 23.20.16 # i don't remember a v2 before 23.20.16 # hmm 23.20.18 # it's under settings / system info probably IIRC 23.20.38 # and check it against the values mentioned on our wiki 23.20.50 # 01.00.03A 23.22.38 # n1s: I suppose the only real use case is if you manage to change a setting like contrast or language that means you can't see how to fix it, and are away from a PC so can't connect and edit/delete config.cfg 23.22.56 # and know of the reset feature 23.23.19 # yes 23.24.00 # my sansa c200 is currently on ver 3.3 of rockbox 23.24.10 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 23.24.17 # echelon: That's a v1 23.24.25 # ah, thanks :) 23.24.33 # i can't imagine it happens often but ti can of course be useful in such a situation 23.25.16 Join leavittx [0] (~leavittx@89.221.199.187) 23.25.25 # well, mostly if you manage to unintentionally change a setting, if you are in the language menu or whatever menu, getting back to a usable value shouldn't be hard 23.26.02 # You would have thought so :) 23.27.20 # hmm, i've a feeling we've had this discussion before actually :) 23.30.27 Nick aevin_ is now known as aevin (eivindsy@microbel.pvv.ntnu.no) 23.31.44 # thinking about it, is there any setting except language you *should* be able to set to a value that makes the player unusable? 23.32.28 # contrast, for example, should probably be clamped so that the lowest and highest values are still readable 23.32.32 # i have to mount the c200 before running the rockbox utility? 23.32.39 # yes 23.32.47 Quit aevin (Changing host) 23.32.47 Join aevin [0] (eivindsy@unaffiliated/aevin) 23.34.08 # is the bootloader in 3.9 different from the one in 3.3? 23.34.34 # the bootloader is released independantly 23.34.36 # I'm not sure, I can't remember when we last updated it 23.35.04 # hmm, it said bootloader was installed and asked if i wanted to skip it 23.35.49 # so i skipped it, and now it says, problem detected: target mismatch detected. installed target: c200, selected target: sansa c200v1 series. 23.36.30 # Tell it to continue 23.36.35 # kk 23.36.38 # n1s: it shouldn't be too difficult to add the reset-settings thing on a button, just needs some thought to make the button driver work earlier 23.36.42 # That's fine, it'll only do it this once 23.36.57 # n1s: i was going to make it ffwd+rew which you can't do by accident :) 23.36.57 # That's a result of us changing the internal name from c200 to c200v1 when the c200v2 was introduced 23.37.10 # Torne: that is certainly nicer 23.38.07 Join factor [0] (~factor@74.197.205.204) 23.38.08 # i guess my point was that i don't think the reset thing is useful enough to stand in the way of making other stuff nicer 23.38.13 # oh ok 23.38.37 # and i'd prefer removing it over leaving it in and living with the current mess 23.38.58 # but another combination is a bette option if it can be made to work 23.39.06 # n1s: right, i just haven't put enough time into trying to get it to work right 23.39.13 # i experimented for a bit at devcon and haven't touched it since 23.39.38 # the beast has the same problem btw, only you can't escape the OF without a pointy tool... 23.39.42 # Right 23.39.48 # I was also going to hcange it on the beast 23.41.04 Join user890104 [0] (~Venci@213.226.63.148) 23.42.28 # i think. 23.42.32 # :) 23.46.43 Quit L-Strife89 (Quit: Rebootin') 23.49.16 # how do i charge the c200 while being able to listen to mp3s? 23.49.27 Join GermanMushroom [0] (~c@s5146db6a.adsl.wanadoo.nl) 23.49.39 # once i connect the data cable, i can't seem to access anything 23.49.55 # echelon: hold some button while plugging, don't remember which one but the manual knows 23.50.04 Join fdinel [0] (~Miranda@modemcable036.124-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 23.50.06 # ḯd guess menu though 23.50.14 # ah, left 23.50.26 # and it will still charge, right? 23.51.47 # yeah, there should be a charger icon in the status bar and the battery indicator should animate filling up but it's really hard to see with the default theme 23.53.06 # i can't find the voice menu :/ 23.53.17 # It is there 23.53.27 # The manual may help you out 23.54.20 # settings > sound settings, playback settings, general settings, theme settings, recording settings, manage settings 23.54.32 # It is in general settings IIRC 23.54.56 Quit stripwax (Quit: http://miranda-im.org) 23.56.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen"