--- Log for 27.07.111 Server: niven.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 13 hours and 47 minutes ago 00.01.10 # also, tc_stat.commit_delayed == 1 00.04.30 Quit GeekShadow (Quit: The cake is a lie !) 00.07.48 Join Horschti [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 00.11.24 Quit Horscht (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 00.14.06 Quit ender` (Quit: The idea is to die young as late as possible.) 00.14.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.19.10 # Possibly one ingredient of this issue is that the DB update cannot commit because the dircache buffer used for this purpose is too small, and then the dircache rescan fails for some reason. 00.19.13 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 00.21.09 # Slasheri, sideral: could my recent find that tree code changes d_entrys of the dircache (or fat code) directly? it removes the .talk extension 00.22.46 # +'cause problems' 00.22.53 # wow, that's ugly :) but I think it's unrelated, I don't use .talk clips 00.24.57 # I think it must be related to some memset / memmove during the rescan, or some allocator failure. Basically all the formats allocated by tagtree have evaporated. formats[] still has pointers, but the display_formats are filled with 0 00.25.46 # the current allocator cannot fail 00.26.01 # perhaps it can double-allocate regions? 00.26.14 # no 00.26.47 # unless you bypass the allocator with direct audiobuf access 00.27.26 # sideral: my gsoc patches convert those to use the allocator, and panic if something is doing double-alloc 00.27.35 # I can't run another gdb session with hardware watchpoints unless I finish the current one, which I'm afraid to do because of possible nonreproducibility. 00.27.43 # perhaps have a look if applying those patches reveal anything? 00.27.59 # good idea 00.30.14 # what else could I check in this session? I'm working under the assumption that the dircache rescan has botched things up 00.33.19 Quit gbl08ma_ (Quit: Saindo) 00.35.53 Join Scromple [0] (~Simon@115-64-195-104.static.tpgi.com.au) 00.40.53 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 00.56.09 Quit sideral (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 01.16.30 Quit leavittx (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 01.22.24 Join skx` [0] (~skx@78-20-16-156.access.telenet.be) 01.22.31 # gnite all 01.23.24 # i just installed rockbox for the 1st in my life... it was not supported for the ipod nano 2g in the past. but wow... what can i say? it simply rocks :)) never seen such easy installer too 01.23.30 # many thanks! :) 01.25.04 Quit robin0800 (Read error: Connection timed out) 01.25.24 # JdGordon|: I tried your patch, it works well (there are some bugs but I check why they happen) 01.25.58 # How can I set that the main menu will be different from other menus? I suppose I could do it with the command %cs but I could not do it. 01.28.25 # That's what I tried: http://pastebin.com/6ziaJwxL 01.28.37 # yes, you need to use %cs to get the main menu 01.28.56 # tell me any bugs you find in the patch tracker 01.31.02 # <[Saint]> HaimN: But, come in here first and verify that they actually are bugs, first. 01.31.31 # <[Saint]> Ask either myself (if I'm around) or JdGordon| (if he's around) and we'll try make sure its not just a syntax error first. 01.32.05 # [Saint]: OK 01.32.21 # <[Saint]> I'd like to be playing with this myself presently, but I'm being stern on myself and crossing off unfinished things from my ToDo list before starting others. 01.33.14 # also remember the patch isnt finished :) so let me know things that need adding also 01.33.44 Quit mudd1 (Quit: Ex-Chat) 01.33.58 # <[Saint]> (Tag needed: "%Xx(Do_everything_I_want_for_me)") 01.34.02 Join keyb_gr_ [0] (~chatzilla@p4FF05809.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.34.02 # <[Saint]> :P 01.34.33 # thats *next* 01.35.10 Quit keyb_gr (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 01.35.15 Nick keyb_gr_ is now known as keyb_gr (~chatzilla@p4FF05809.dip.t-dialin.net) 01.37.40 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 6.0/20110713171652]) 01.41.00 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 01.48.56 Join SagaciousKJB [0] (~sagacious@67-5-96-251.spok.qwest.net) 01.49.16 # Any Gigabeat users/developers present? 01.58.43 # if you have a question, its best to just ask it 01.59.20 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 02.01.40 # pamaury: opps didn't mean to delete a post from that new ports thread you were reading 02.08.16 Quit Hadaka (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 02.14.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.16.47 Join Naked [0] (~naked@naked.iki.fi) 02.17.03 Nick Naked is now known as Hadaka (~naked@naked.iki.fi) 02.19.46 Quit pjm0616 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 02.20.58 # SagaciousKJB: I don't know. Maybe. 02.21.22 # I've got a weird issue with my gigabeat 02.21.37 # Only found one other person that has wrote about it on the forums with no response 02.22.26 # once again, if you're got a question, its best to ask it 02.23.59 # [Saint]: how about just having the popup toggle instead of timing out? so press and it appears, press again and it disappears? 02.24.10 # that would solve the accidental press annoyance 02.28.38 # JdGordon| or [Saint] I go to sleep now, Maybe tomorrow I'll send you the bugs. For now, can you look here: http://pastebin.com/bt6UzTKW To see what I did not do well? 02.28.39 # I have the file tango_icons.32.bmp in the icons folder 02.29.45 Quit SagaciousKJB (Remote host closed the connection) 02.29.53 # well now 02.37.43 Quit Thra11 (Quit: kthxbai) 02.41.16 # saratoga: why fix the 14-bit samples for only mic? 02.41.50 # jhMikeS: was i supposed to change it for peak meter too? 02.42.17 # it's 14-bit for FM too 02.43.29 Quit funman (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 02.44.24 # jhMikeS: ok didn't realize that since the task only mentions problems with mic 02.44.48 # so i just need to remove the check for mono? 02.44.57 # I've pondered dumping DMA altogether for recording and using regular i2s ints 02.45.31 Quit ReimuHakurei (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.45.38 # yeah, I think so 02.49.04 # it's also possible that the callback could be called with 0 transfer size (which is expected) 02.51.01 # alright i'll look at it later, feeling too tired now 02.53.32 Quit keyb_gr (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 02.56.02 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: Ex-Chat) 03.03.08 Join Poodlemastah [0] (~chatzilla@h-241-205.a218.priv.bahnhof.se) 03.09.17 Join keyb_gr [0] (~chatzilla@p4FF05809.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.18.44 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@149.254.186.244) 03.35.27 Quit Poodlemastah (Remote host closed the connection) 03.36.03 Quit keyb_gr (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 04.09.28 Quit TheSeven (Disconnected by services) 04.09.42 Join [7] [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.14.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.14.57 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@c-76-28-198-27.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 04.16.33 Quit Keripo (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.19.14 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@c-76-28-198-27.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 04.30.14 # <[Saint]> HaimN: All I can see now (just looking quickly) is something that annoys me about conditional statements, which isn't really "wrong", just...annoying. 04.30.29 Join SagaciousKJB [0] (~sagacious@67-5-96-251.spok.qwest.net) 04.30.47 # <[Saint]> If there's no "false" condition, you can just do "%Xx" 04.30.52 # Does anyone know if this issue has been resolved? http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,11530.0.html 04.31.05 # <[Saint]> there's no need to list an empty "false" like: 04.31.20 # <[Saint]> "%Xx" 04.32.42 # <[Saint]> additionaly...."%xd(b,%LI)" looks wrong to me, but, this may well be valid syntax now, I'll need to refer to the patch or something I might have missed. 04.33.04 # SagaciousKJB: Has anyone even confirmed that problem happens for anyone other than the poster? Is there a proper bug report? 04.33.10 # [Saint]: that syntax is fine 04.33.16 # Llorean, not that I've found 04.33.25 # That is the only reference to it I can find 04.33.36 # <[Saint]> JdGordon|: Ah, yes...I was just about to retract that statement. 04.34.23 # <[Saint]> it's the short way of going "%Xd(Ba)|%Xd(Bb)....etc...) which I actually don't like at all. 04.34.34 # <[Saint]> But this can be forgiven when there's 32 conditions ;) 04.34.42 # SagaciousKJB: Then it's rather hard to know if it's even an issue, or not just his hardware being faulty in some manner. 04.35.13 # Well, it's happening to me too in the exact manner he describes 04.35.19 # Should I file a bug report? 04.35.21 # <[Saint]> *s/%Xd/%xd/ 04.35.22 # A bug report should be filed, and maybe some effort by the person experiencing the problem to find someone with the same player to confirm/deny the presence of the issue on their device. 04.36.54 # <[Saint]> There's a chance its connected to the F40 secifically...maybe. 04.37.06 # Any advice on where else to look? This is the only person I've found that is having the same problem and I can't even confirm that he's using the same version of rockbox as I can, just the same player 04.37.10 # <[Saint]> I've never had any of my devices panic during an OS reboot/start while connected. 04.37.18 # *as I am 04.37.23 # <[Saint]> makes me think the OS is doing something silly. 04.38.01 # <[Saint]> the PC and the netbook don't happen to run the same OS do they, if so, what OS is it? 04.38.17 # <[Saint]> (and could you try with another?) 04.38.29 # I'm not sure about the person that made that post, that's just someone else who I found that has the same issue 04.38.56 # As far as my stuff goes... It happens on my laptop with Ubuntu 9.04, my desktop with Ubuntu 8.0.4 and my friend's desktop with Windows XP on it 04.39.16 # <[Saint]> right, pretty safe to discount OS sillyness, then. Nevermind me ;) 04.40.02 # Heh, okay, it wouldn't really have surprised me though 04.40.22 # I actually can't get it to repeat as consistently as that guy can 04.42.19 Quit robin0800 (Read error: Connection timed out) 04.43.03 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@149.254.186.244) 04.47.52 # <[Saint]> JdGordon|: "tomegtt" wants a ban. 04.48.21 # link? 04.48.29 # <[Saint]> http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,19184.msg183233.html#msg183233 04.48.33 # <[Saint]> http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,27941.msg183232.html#msg183232 04.48.42 Quit fdinel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.48.48 # <[Saint]> there's more too...but one's enough. 04.48.58 # akismet is really fucking wierd 04.49.07 # thos eposts are hidden in my view! 04.49.16 # <[Saint]> blocking actual posts and letting spam through? ;) 04.49.27 # <[Saint]> Oh...I see them in "recent posts" 04.49.39 # <[Saint]> then I can follow the link through to the thread. 04.49.57 # yeah, they didnt show up at all, or in recent posts 04.50.00 # anyway, he's nuked 04.50.14 # <[Saint]> Sweet. I wonder why I could see them, then. 04.50.17 # <[Saint]> "meh". 04.51.09 Quit SagaciousKJB (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 04.51.56 Join SagaciousKJB [0] (~sagacious@67-5-96-251.spok.qwest.net) 04.55.28 Quit soap (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.55.58 # weird, grep doesn't even find that panic message in the source 04.59.00 # The verbatim error message is actually "*PANIC* mount:0" 04.59.56 # SagaciousKJB: is this an older build? 05.00.04 # perhaps that message is no longer in the source 05.00.28 # I'm not sure what the guy in the post is using, but mine is v 3.9 05.02.17 Quit Scromple (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 05.02.23 Join Scromple [0] (~Simon@115-64-195-104.static.tpgi.com.au) 05.05.40 # I've gotten that stuff after disconnecting USB on my F40 as well. It's ok afterwards but it's annoying. I don't know what causes it other than maybe the USB bridge still has control of the disk for some reason. 05.06.08 # It happens here and there, not every time. 05.06.38 # Do you need to switch your battery off and on before you can power on again too? 05.07.24 # Don't recall exactly. I think I can hit power and reboot. 05.08.10 # In any case, there's no out without a hard reset 05.08.45 # and it's been that way since I can remember 05.11.06 Join pjm0616 [0] (~user@114.200.203.101) 05.11.12 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 05.11.13 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 05.11.13 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 05.11.15 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 05.11.15 Join mshathlonxp [0] (~athlonmpp@5ad4ef88.bb.sky.com) 05.11.17 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 05.11.18 # Well, must not be a huge problem then 05.11.31 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 05.11.34 # jhMikeS: I've never seen that error, but it's been ages since I've even known where my F *is* but it sounds like something that must've been introduced at some point. 05.11.34 Join soap [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 05.11.38 # It's only a slight annoyance to me because I lost the bottom panel of my player a long time ago, so the switch is only accesible with a pin or something 05.11.49 Quit D-Strife89 (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 05.12.00 # I tried having it wait longer, but things didn't change 05.12.06 Quit robin0800 (Read error: Connection timed out) 05.12.33 # Maybe I'll try using lsof or something to make sure nothing is accessing it before disconnecting 05.12.37 # Llorean: if it was at *some point*, that point was pretty close to when the port was new :-) 05.12.46 # But I don't know what to tell my friend about XP... He insists he used the "safely remove" feature 05.13.09 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@149.254.187.125) 05.13.53 # It happens with "safely remove", which I just use out of habit 05.13.57 # jhMikeS: Maybe I just didn't use USB often enough to encounter it, but I was using my Fs pretty regularly for at least a year or so after the port became fairly stable/usable, and updating them from time to time. 05.14.51 # I basically used my Fs constantly until I got an S. 05.15.07 # Could it be a difference in the bootloader? 05.15.43 # SagaciousKJB: I've encountered it the same way in both FW and BL 05.16.09 # FW and BL? 05.16.20 # firmware and bootloader 05.17.01 # I'm not sure I understand the difference 05.17.22 # I meant maybe I have an out-dated bootloader? 05.17.58 # the bootloader (FWImgxxx.dat -- iirc the name) loads and runs the rockbox binary (firmware) 05.18.52 # I've used my own bootloader builds and still nothing changed 05.19.09 # Hmm, weird 05.19.20 # Well, as long as it doesn't do anything really bad 05.19.31 # Never had it raise an issue 05.19.47 # The only real problem it presents for me is that I have to reset the battery to be able to power back up 05.24.22 Quit mystica555_ (Read error: Operation timed out) 05.27.55 Quit Scromple (Quit: Leaving) 05.32.11 Quit pjm0616 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 05.32.28 Quit mystica555 (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 05.34.52 Quit robin0800 (Read error: Connection timed out) 05.35.37 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@149.254.234.244) 05.37.30 Quit Horschti (Quit: Verlassend) 05.39.11 Join ReimuHakurei [0] (~reimu@wireless.sit-co.net) 05.47.56 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FFF1EC9.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.48.08 Join mystica555 [0] (~Mike@71-33-158-14.hlrn.qwest.net) 05.49.14 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@207-144-19-39.cstel.net) 05.51.05 Quit mshathlonxp (Quit: let's try unlock GF6800GT) 05.51.40 Quit Rob2223 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05.54.57 Join mshathlonxp [0] (~athlonmpp@5ad4ef88.bb.sky.com) 06.14.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.25.10 Quit bluefoxx (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 06.25.52 Join bluefoxx [0] (fuzzylomba@S0106e0cb4e0a6d8a.vs.shawcable.net) 06.38.29 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 06.58.05 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@p57B4DD5E.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.07.11 Join Strife1989 [0] (~Strife89@207-144-19-39.cstel.net) 07.14.43 Quit Topy (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 07.15.32 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@f049014198.adsl.alicedsl.de) 07.20.05 Quit mshathlonxp (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.20.28 Join mshathlonxp [0] (~athlonmpp@5ad4ef88.bb.sky.com) 07.23.56 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 07.27.05 Quit wtachi (Quit: &) 07.45.45 Quit mshathlonxp (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.46.32 Join mshathlonxp [0] (~athlonmpp@5ad4ef88.bb.sky.com) 08.10.00 Quit powell14ski_ (Quit: powell14ski_) 08.12.50 Quit JdGordon| (Quit: leaving) 08.13.10 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@login.ok-labs.com) 08.13.10 Quit JdGordon| (Changing host) 08.13.10 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 08.13.31 Quit JdGordon| (Client Quit) 08.13.49 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@login.ok-labs.com) 08.13.49 Quit JdGordon| (Changing host) 08.13.49 Join JdGordon| [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 08.14.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.18.57 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54A3A518.dip.t-dialin.net) 08.22.19 Join antil33t [0] (~antil33t@124-197-33-15.callplus.net.nz) 08.27.23 Quit Strife1989 (Quit: Changing OSes.) 08.29.21 # anything speaking against clsoing FS#10057 ? this is not really a bug, and it can be easily solved when using embedded album art 08.29.23 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10057 3album art fails to display (bugs, unconfirmed) 08.29.53 Join Strife1989 [0] (~Strife89@207-144-19-39.cstel.net) 08.30.18 # * ukleinek is subscribed to rockbox-dev since a few days and didn't receive any mail via this list. 08.30.32 # Is this correct or is there a problem in the mailsetup somewhere? 08.30.58 # this would maybe explain why I don't get the confirmation mail from FS, too 08.31.44 # I got the confirmation mail for the ML and the "Welcome to the "rockbox-dev" mailing list" mail though 08.31.52 # that list is usually quiet 08.32.05 Nick JdGordon| is now known as JdGordon (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 08.32.34 # JdGordon: was there a mail since "Sat, 23 Jul 2011 13:30:57 +0200"? 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It is a manual process. 15.18.56 # can i reinstall the original firmware (via iTunes), or am i risking bricking it? 15.19.14 # <[Saint]> You can reinstall the original firmware, yes. 15.19.39 # you can't brick it, iirc 15.19.47 # <[Saint]> A restore via iTunes will prompt an emCORE uninstallation on the next boot, then the iPod will be "an iPod" again. 15.19.48 # you just can't have both installed at once. 15.20.06 # ok, great. i used to use rockbox on an iRiver, until it was stolen, and i really can't stand the iTunes or the iPod software, and i loved rockbox. guess i am not accomplishing much owrk today... :) 15.20.10 # thanks for all your answers. 15.20.17 # <[Saint]> Torne: You *can* get it into a state where you completely trash the device info and it forgets what model iPod it is. 15.20.25 # <[Saint]> but, you can fudge that info back on there. 15.21.05 # <[Saint]> You need to really put some effort into fucking that up, though. 15.21.29 Quit gbl08ma (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 15.21.33 # <[Saint]> its only happened once and it was by someone throwing random cannands at the device through the emCORE console hoping to get it to work on his own. 15.21.42 # ah 15.21.52 # that's close enough, i feel :) 15.21.59 # * [Saint] nods. ;) 15.22.17 # <[Saint]> If you *actually* follow the install instructions word for word, all should be well ;) 15.22.31 # <[Saint]> this is a challenge for some people though. 15.22.39 # <[Saint]> ;_ 15.22.49 # <[Saint]> * :) 15.23.10 # this is my last week at my current job. i have the time to do this today... 15.23.43 # <[Saint]> right. If you have any problems with the installation, head over to #freemyipod-support 15.24.42 # <[Saint]> after the install, and anything that isn't emCORE related (emCORE is in a sense the Rockbox "bootloader" for the Classic) then here is the right place for support. 15.26.40 # wow. this is probably one the most helpful, non-condescending IRC channels i have been to. thanks! 15.27.15 # wow. that's a really uncommon sentiment ;) 15.27.26 # <[Saint]> I was just thinking that... ;) 15.27.27 # we can try and be more condescending to meet your expectations? :) 15.28.38 # <[Saint]> Its much nicer than "Rockbox is a hoax/virus/bag of shit", much appreciated. 15.29.52 Quit [Saint] (Quit: Imagination is for turbo-nerds who can't handle how kick-butt reality is. I'm a kick-butt reality master! I would rather die, than be imaginative. I mean that.) 15.31.52 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@124-197-58-10.callplus.net.nz) 15.33.27 # <[Saint]> Torne: : feel like changing the topic back? 15.33.35 # <[Saint]> It appears to be back in action. 15.33.37 # yeah i was going to then i forgot 15.33.41 Mode "#rockbox +o Torne" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 15.33.54 Quit dfkt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.33.54 # <[Saint]> Oh, sorry, didn't realise you'd noticed. 15.33.57 Topic "3.9 released! | Please read before speaking: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/IrcGuidelines | Please direct offtopic/social chat to #rockbox-community | This channel is logged at http://www.rockbox.org/irc" by Torne (~torne@rockbox/developer/Torne) 15.34.02 Mode "#rockbox -o Torne" by Torne (~torne@rockbox/developer/Torne) 15.34.02 # nono, well reminded 15.34.06 # i noticed, like, half an hour ago 15.34.08 Join dfkt [0] (~dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 15.34.09 # and then got distracted :) 15.34.21 Quit n17ikh (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 15.34.38 Join gbl08ma [0] (~gbl08ma@195.23.214.65) 15.35.41 Join dfkt_ [0] (~dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 15.35.46 Quit dfkt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.36.23 Join tmzt_ [0] (~tmzt@adsl-99-164-50-186.dsl.akrnoh.sbcglobal.net) 15.36.50 # So I found out what causes the "*PANIC* mount:0" error with the Gigabeat F40 15.36.56 # Well, more along the lines of how to prevent it 15.37.36 # Apparently when connected to the USB, when the LED screen goes dim, if you remove the USB at that point it will display the error. 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16.03.43 # hey all, I'm having a slight scare here.. my E250 doesn't appear too be taking a charge with a new battery. and the power indicator in RB is blinking.. 16.05.11 # what's the bare minimum an E250's battery is supposed too read for voltage? 16.13.44 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@230.125.112.87.dyn.plus.net) 16.23.44 Join n17ikh [0] (~n17ikh@c-174-56-150-44.hsd1.sc.comcast.net) 16.24.22 # * Strife89 attempts to help out with the forum Precut discussion. http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12203 16.30.29 Join Thra11_ [0] (~thrall@87.112.179.1) 16.33.02 Quit Thra11 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 16.35.26 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 16.37.42 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@i02m-212-194-176-149.d4.club-internet.fr) 16.40.52 # Strife89: thats not really what a limiter does though 16.41.10 # usually a limiter is something that clamps signals above a certain level, not reduce the volume 16.41.54 # Right, and I left that bit in. 16.42.21 # The idea was to leave something searchable for users like STU103 16.42.44 # well if someone searches for limiter they should probably not find precut since its not a limiter and doesn't do what a limiter does :) 16.43.02 # But for all intents and purposes, it *can*. :) 16.43.23 # it can limit volume to some max, but thats not really what a limiter does 16.43.32 # see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limiter 16.43.36 # I mean, there's no other setting that is literally a limiter, so this is the next best thing. 16.43.45 # a limiter is a real thing in audio 16.44.05 # that guy just decided to call what he wanted a limiter 16.44.13 # but an actual limiter does something else 16.44.31 # Alright, well. 16.44.54 # What should the section say, then? 16.45.50 # I would probably say something like "Precut reduces the global volume in rockbox such that xdB of gain will reduce the maximum volume by xdB" 16.47.22 Join wtachi [0] (~wtachi@cpe-065-190-012-236.nc.res.rr.com) 16.47.26 # Sounds alright, although that could be confusing. 16.48.24 # let me 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Did you see my remark regarding disposable email addresses? 17.45.37 # linuxstb, saratoga: Yes, cancelling with two Ls 17.45.48 # Other than that fine 17.46.20 # sideral: no 17.47.04 # sideral: but actually I want to receive FS notifications, no? 17.50.09 # <[7]> neothecat: no, you need to use an ipod classic build 17.50.59 # i guess i am trouble find it. i went to current releases, but it's not there... 17.54.00 # neothecat: That's because the ipod classic is considered unusable 17.54.06 # So we don't provide builds for it 17.58.02 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 17.58.16 Join keyb_gr [0] (~chatzilla@p4FF03FC0.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.58.18 # the problem i had is i was not able to find anywhere where to download the build. [7] provided it for me in #freemyipod-support 17.58.34 Join lasser [0] (~chatzilla@p57B582B1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 18.00.42 # http://build.rockbox.org/data/rockbox-ipodclassic.zip 18.00.43 # magic 18.02.42 # ukleinek: yeah -- I actually advised *against* using disposable email addresses, as they may be filtered out 18.02.45 # New commit by 03saratoga (r30216): Explain in more detail what the precut option for EQ does, and also mention that it requires EQ to be enabled to use it. 18.03.06 # saratoga: it's magic if you had no idea that is where it was located... 18.03.45 # yeah we don't list ports that are unusable to prevent people from trying them and breaking their players 18.03.50 # but they're still on the download server 18.04.11 # <[7]> they're linked on http://build.rockbox.org/dev.cgi 18.04.23 # <[7]> (the column headings) 18.04.50 # hi. lua again, i hope i don't annoy you. rb.get_action(rb.contexts.CONTEXT_KEYBOARD, -1) waits until a key is preesed, is that right? 18.06.22 # s/preesed/pressed/ 18.06.49 # r30216 build result: All green 18.07.59 # always afraid i've screwed something up when committing changes to the manual 18.08.03 # But I want to draw a running clock (xx min : xx sec) while waiting for a key. 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I could never reproduce it... finally one of those users changed his album arts to jpg and everything worked fine for him... 20.20.02 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11997 3Album Art corrupted since 3.8 with some WPS (bugs, unconfirmed) 20.21.44 # missing reply / info since 7 weeks -> FS#11957. I would like to close this as well 20.21.44 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11957 3IPOD 5G RB 3.7.1 issue with ONKYO DS-A1 (bugs, unconfirmed) 20.22.35 # I see no sense in keeping reports open if there is no further reaction or detail given to be able to really investigate the cause 20.27.59 # so for wma_128k.wma, rockbox adds 19 bytes to the end of every ASF packet . . . 20.28.08 # but the file decodes correctly 20.29.30 # which would make sense if it were just the header size, but if you add the header each packet is slightly larger then that . . . 20.30.23 # saratoga: is FS#12201 (new) just another case of FS#11231 ? 20.30.24 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12201 3Sound garbled on wma tracks  (bugs, unconfirmed) 20.30.24 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11231 3Skipping and stuttering in low bitrate .WMA files (bugs, unconfirmed) 20.30.45 # Buschel: i thought so, but looking at the parser output i think its different 20.30.59 # ok, se you want to keep both 20.31.02 # the parser doesn't error out, instead I think the codec is not init'ed correctly 20.32.04 # it almost sounds like the wrong transform sizes or something are being uses 20.34.04 # by the way, Sean's test program is really helpful here . . . 20.45.44 Quit bertrik (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.46.03 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 20.46.03 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 20.46.03 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 20.50.03 # wow weird, the decoder produces half as many samples as it should, but still parses every packet without reporting an error 20.56.22 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@p5DD573AD.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.56.23 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 20.56.23 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 20.58.53 Quit Horschti (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 21.00.11 Join HaimN_ [0] (~quassel@95.86.90.160) 21.00.11 Quit HaimN (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.08.33 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: Ex-Chat) 21.12.42 Quit HaimN_ (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 21.13.15 Join HaimN [0] (~quassel@95.86.90.160) 21.14.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.16.31 Quit Horscht (Quit: Verlassend) 21.17.00 Quit lorenzo92 (Remote host closed the connection) 21.17.52 Quit HaimN (Client Quit) 21.18.18 Join HaimN [0] (~quassel@95.86.90.160) 21.19.37 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@agsb-4d048bad.pool.mediaWays.net) 21.19.38 Quit domonoky (Changing host) 21.19.38 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 21.19.39 Join kevku [0] (x@2001:470:28:773:babe:feed:dead:beef) 21.20.19 Join Thra11__ [0] (~thrall@87.114.86.66) 21.20.41 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@p5DD5741C.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.20.41 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 21.20.41 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 21.23.23 Quit Thra11_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 21.23.25 Quit HaimN (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 21.23.51 Join HaimN [0] (~quassel@95.86.90.160) 21.25.15 Quit merbanan (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 21.27.49 Quit HaimN (Client Quit) 21.28.26 Join HaimN [0] (~quassel@95.86.90.160) 21.32.37 Quit fdinel (Quit: Miranda IM! 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