--- Log for 03.08.111 Server: verne.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 5 days and 19 hours ago 00.00.16 # is there an obvious way to store a vfat file system in nand? 00.00.38 # or does that depend on the manufacturer/firmware? 00.04.50 Join saratoga [0] (9803ec4b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.236.75) 00.05.10 # ukleinek: file systems are almost always stored on a NAND chip using an FTL 00.05.15 # (flash translation layer) 00.05.36 Join mudd1 [0] (~cmertes@ip-78-94-202-227.unitymediagroup.de) 00.05.41 # which maps blocks on the NAND device to sectors in the file system so that the nand appears as a hard drive 00.06.07 # (assuming you mean on a pure NAND chip, not something like SD or CF which provides a chip between you and the NAND blocks) 00.06.32 # saratoga: I think I can read out the bare nand chips 00.06.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.07.07 # then you're probably dealing with a software based FTL 00.07.14 # saratoga: the application detects my device has two nand chips, lets me select one and a range of sectors and writes the data to a file. 00.09.34 Quit robin0800 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 00.09.35 # * ukleinek guesses the location and encoding of the translation table isn't standardized 00.10.08 # New commit by 03sideral (r30241): Database: Fix to support case-sensitive file systems containing audio ... 00.10.17 # no they're specific to whatever library the device's operating system used 00.10.56 # although there are a few relatively common types out there, some of which are documented in rockbox, android, etc 00.13.29 # r30241 build result: All green 00.14.17 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@149.254.61.157) 00.16.09 Nick thegeek_ is now known as thegeek (~nnscript@132.108.34.95.customer.cdi.no) 00.16.18 # there are functions in the firmware that contain FS_FDT, does that ring a bell for someone? 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Bump and sort. 11.52.27 Quit antil33t () 11.53.45 # r30242 build result: All green 11.54.25 # bah, I didn't notice my build client is down again 11.54.53 # one week already! 11.56.20 # <[Saint]> Don't you get some form of poke if your client stops responding? Or can clients come and go as they please and you'd only be warned if builds repeatedly fail? 11.56.45 # I didn't get one as far as I can tell :) 11.57.02 # I also can't kill the process, so something went horribly wrong 11.57.54 # r30243 build result: All green 11.58.01 # it hangs at svn up, apparently 11.58.17 # the rb.org downtime last week might be related 12.02.38 # <[Saint]> How would that work? 12.03.12 # <[Saint]> I mean it might, sure, but from what I understand it shouldn't have an effect. 12.03.36 # <[Saint]> "Very Weird Things(TM)" not inclusive. 12.07.05 # [Saint]: no idea 12.07.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.08.58 # should run again now 12.12.20 Quit swilde (Quit: ERC Version 5.3 (IRC client for Emacs)) 12.14.40 Quit [Saint] (Quit: Imagination is for turbo-nerds who can't handle how kick-butt reality is. I'm a kick-butt reality master! I would rather die, than be imaginative. I mean that.) 12.16.58 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@124-197-58-10.callplus.net.nz) 12.23.28 # * sideral finds bugs in dircache and tagcache that may have caused crashes in the DB browser 12.24.39 Quit mdipolt (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 12.39.47 # New commit by 03kugel (r30244): Fix oops in r30242. I didn't want to change/reduce the buffer size. 12.43.56 # r30244 build result: All green 12.49.44 Quit petur (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 12.49.45 Join petur2 [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 12.50.25 Nick petur2 is now known as petur (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 13.00.39 Quit petur (Quit: *plop*) 13.01.11 Join soap__ [0] (~soap@94.75.232.194) 13.04.39 Quit soap (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 13.16.29 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 13.17.24 Quit [Saint] (Quit: Quit...) 13.30.58 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@124-197-58-10.callplus.net.nz) 13.44.42 Quit soap__ (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 14.07.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.08.12 Quit mystica555 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 14.20.36 # do we have assert() ? 14.21.54 # No we don't (except in the sim and maybe in RaaA) 14.22.45 # But we should, IMHO 14.23.11 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 14.23.51 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 14.24.41 Join fdinel [0] (~Miranda@modemcable036.124-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) 14.35.31 # bah, {tag,file,}tree.c are so tricky 14.36.34 # refactor 14.38.59 # God_Eater: thanks, looking forward for your refator results 14.39.00 # :) 14.39.39 # :D 14.46.19 Quit krazykit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 14.49.27 Quit n1s (Remote host closed the connection) 14.50.22 # <[7]> s/refactor/rewrite/? :) 15.00.58 Quit bluefoxx (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.11.27 # I think kugel's typo "refator" is probably more accurate about what would happen if I did it 15.11.34 # it would definitely get fatter 15.11.46 # :p 15.12.34 # refactoring doesn't necessarily make code smaller 15.13.21 Quit ps-auxw (Quit: leaving) 15.13.45 Join ps-auxw [0] (~arneb@2001:470:c807:0:1532:4e5f:2ad3:4123) 15.13.53 Quit user890104 (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 15.14.43 Join user890104 [0] (~Venci@213.226.63.137) 15.15.53 # true 15.25.58 Join krazykit [0] (~krazykit@206.183.182.189) 15.31.13 Join mystica555 [0] (~mike@70-90-89-81-BusName-dc.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) 15.35.49 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@212.19.113.87.dyn.plus.net) 15.40.25 Join bluefoxx [0] (fuzzylomba@S0106e0cb4e0a6d8a.vs.shawcable.net) 15.43.48 Quit Thra11 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.48.25 Quit liar (Quit: hallowed are the ori!) 15.51.47 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@212.19.113.87.dyn.plus.net) 15.54.50 Quit evilnick (Quit: Leaving) 16.06.20 Join wtachi [0] (~wtachi@cpe-065-190-012-236.nc.res.rr.com) 16.07.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.08.07 # meh, the diff is way bigger than anticipated, but I think I got {tag,file,}tree.c compaction safe 16.10.36 # but that's because the buffer handling is completely broken there :) 16.14.14 # kugel: Please don't check in further extensive clean ups to tagtree/tagcache without some up-front review time. You're breaking my work in progress. 16.19.18 # sideral: I'm sorry about that, but how does review time help there? 16.19.18 # unless with "review time" you mean enough time for you to commit your stuff so that I need to rebase :) 16.20.33 # In general, I think cleanups have to wait. They're much easier to rebase typically, and typically less critical. 16.20.54 # So I'd like to have some time to cry foul and make you slower :) 16.21.11 # I don't have enough time to be slower :) 16.23.23 # Also it gives me more confidence at least one person tests the stuff during the review time, before you check in -- which would be you ;) 16.23.47 # and it's difficult for me to rebase as my tree is already quite diverged, so I would like to commit not-so-major stuff in the meantime 16.24.24 # Don't forget other people might have the same problem 16.25.00 # but other people don't have the same time pressure :) 16.25.24 # I don't think there's time pressure to get the stuff in the trunk 16.29.44 # sideral: I'm not convinced my project is considered successful if the vast majority if the changes is still outside svn 16.31.17 # I think it's explicitly not successful if it's mostly not commited 16.31.25 # if you interpret Google's rules 16.32.11 # I'm not sure that's a good excuse to commit unreviewed structural patches? 16.32.13 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 16.32.27 # * [Saint] also tends to think that GSoC stuff wins when it comes to "stuff that helps kugel achieve his goal"...if that happens to break someone elses WIP, that's sad, but...so be it. 16.32.56 # God_Eater: as far as I know, success is entirely defined as "does the mentor say "success" at the end?" 16.33.12 # gevaerts: I thought we had to supply a repo with code in for googel too? 16.33.22 # although I suppose that needn't be OUR repo 16.33.54 # You have to supply code, yes, but what exactly that means couldn't really be more vague 16.37.25 # <[Saint]> this also kinda reminds me of the pre-GSoC huge playback patch, where it became apparent there needed to be more "Hey, jsyk, I'm working on " discussions. 16.37.46 # rub it in why don't you! 16.38.04 Nick kugel is now known as kugelp (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 16.38.36 # <[Saint]> jhMikeS: That wasn't a dig, nor finger-pointing ;) 16.38.48 # <[Saint]> And I think we all like our lovely new playback engine. 16.39.33 # paradoxically, I'm glad noone says it :) It's good when huge patches don't rise up like the cracken. 16.40.36 # <[Saint]> That's mostly because you chose to fight off its many tentacles pre-commit though no? 16.40.41 # <[Saint]> You spent a LOT of time there. 16.40.45 # To be fair, kugel's changes to far aren't mind-boggingly huge. They just clean up code structure, which can be as annoying as whitespace patches 16.41.08 # when you're working in similar spots 16.41.11 # [Saint]: true, alot of personal use and abuse it done before ever presenting things in most cases 16.41.48 # <[Saint]> I had to pull your patch 8-thing-o from my tree, sideral, as I didn't feel like syncing it then and there. 16.41.59 # <[Saint]> I'll put it back when I've slightly more time/motivation. 16.42.03 # * JdGordon thinks being rushed is a pretty damn goood reason to *not* commit anything without a second review 16.42.54 # code refactors doubly so 16.43.25 # pity we dont have a really nice code review website up.... :p 16.43.30 # No problem Saint 16.43.37 # noone would visit ;) 16.44.13 # when do the swedes get back from their holidays? 16.44.54 # <[Saint]> sideral: It had damn near a full days (8 hours or so, until I exhausted my battery) testing and nothing jumped out and bit me, which can only be good. 16.45.01 # <[Saint]> built with no warning, etc. 16.46.15 # Saint: Good! 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the (base) rockbox from an ipod nano 1st ed? 18.04.20 # <_jacky_> the reason i ask is that i had problems installing the latest version, so i decided to unistall my existing 1.8-ish but its taking a long time 18.07.10 # 1.8-ish? 18.07.30 # Uninstall should be quick anyway 18.07.45 # <_jacky_> the version of rockbox is 1.8 18.07.50 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 18.08.00 # <_jacky_> oh well its taking over 10 mins 18.08.00 # It isn't 18.08.13 # Rockbox before version 3.0 was never released for anything but Archos 18.08.28 # <_jacky_> eh? 18.08.37 # <_jacky_> i must have my numbers wrong then 18.08.42 # yes :) 18.08.44 # but reagrdless 18.08.55 # You are uninstalling with Rockbox Utility? 18.10.12 # And on what OS? 18.10.20 # brb, I have to pop out for ten minutes 18.11.24 # <_jacky_> no probs 18.13.01 Quit simabeis (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 18.16.42 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.18.41 Join simabeis [0] (~simabeis@lobmenschen.de) 18.18.49 Join factor [0] (~factor@74.197.205.204) 18.28.08 Quit factor (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 18.28.49 Join factor [0] (~factor@74.197.205.204) 18.31.38 # Slasheri: "I found something" 18.32.54 Quit mystica555 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 18.41.38 Nick kugel is now known as kugelp (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 18.44.23 Nick kugelp is now known as kugel (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 18.49.53 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 18.50.03 Join Stephen__ [0] (~S@86.45.57.89) 18.51.22 # can anyone confirm what cpu is in the clipv2 the clip plus and the fuze v2 ? I think it's different to the Austria !MicroSystems AS3525 isn't it ? 18.52.28 # and how much ram they havfe ? i think the clipv1&2 have 2MB what have the plus and the fuzes got ? 18.52.35 # s/havfe/have 18.52.51 # that's right. I think we don't know the official name of the SoC; that various ones offered on AMS' website don't seem to fit 100%. Hence it's known around here as AS3525v2 18.53.17 # These players have 8 MB RAM 18.53.48 # Thanks sideral 18.53.51 # including the ClipV2 18.53.54 # just updating the device chart 18.54.01 # the clipv2 has 8mb rams ? 18.54.12 # the v1 only had 2 right ? 18.54.15 # Yes, I think so 18.54.21 # thanks 18.55.18 # Yeah, I saw your edits. Thanks for updating the chart! 18.55.45 # no bothers have to finish these then the nano 2g and that's it 18.55.49 # i think* 18.56.23 # would you call the clips screen oled or 2 colour oled ? 18.56.30 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 18.56.30 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 18.56.30 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 18.56.30 # what sound sbetter ? 18.56.55 # Stephen__: Mono OLED 18.57.03 # thanks Llorean 18.57.05 # The two colors aren't controllable, so it's really a 1bpp display 18.57.13 Join simonlnu_ [0] (bRxikaGlMr@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 18.57.15 # 1bit ? 18.57.21 Quit simonlnu (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 18.57.24 # 1 bit per pixel. On or Off, no color value. 18.57.29 Nick simonlnu_ is now known as simonlnu (bRxikaGlMr@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 18.57.37 # Much like the Archos Recorder, or the remote control screen on the H100 18.57.55 # thanks 18.59.11 # i'll just use the same stuff from the recorder then 18.59.48 # that has b/w will i say yellow/cyan or just put 1bit ? 19.02.47 # perhaps "1-bit yellow/cyan static color"? :) 19.04.58 # It's definitely not just "yellow/cyan" at least in the same context as "b/w" 19.05.00 # I'd just go with 1bit 19.05.33 # Parts of the screen are b/yellow and other parts b/cyan if we take "b/w" as an example. But no part of the screen is yellow on cyan or cyan on yellow 19.06.06 # ok ill go 1bit so 19.06.38 # or you can invent a new term, such as traffic-light multicolor ;) 19.10.05 # whats charging ctrl ? 19.12.42 Join user890104_ [0] (~Venci@83.228.31.135) 19.14.46 Quit user890104 (Disconnected by services) 19.14.47 Nick user890104_ is now known as user890104 (~Venci@83.228.31.135) 19.17.09 Join Seth [0] (~chatzilla@h-241-205.a218.priv.bahnhof.se) 19.18.36 Nick Seth is now known as Poodlemastah (~chatzilla@h-241-205.a218.priv.bahnhof.se) 19.19.06 Quit Poodlemastah (Client Quit) 19.19.40 # presume it's HW 19.21.19 Quit sideral (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 19.25.31 # AMSv2 players like clipv2, clip+ and fuzev2 now have a wake-up alarm, not sure about the AMSv1 players 19.26.45 # amsv1 don't 19.26.49 # I'll add that in 19.27.59 # I'm starting to wonder now if that is because the hardware can't do it, or we never bothered to implement it 19.28.55 # I remember funman looking at it but couldn't find the right part of the firmware ? 19.54.42 Quit ReimuHakurei (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 19.55.20 # Stephen__, it looks like AMSv1 just doesn't support it in hardware 19.56.00 # aqgh good word bertrik, I always thought it just wasn't implemented 19.56.08 # s/word/work 19.56.45 # BTW, there was a person here yesterday complaining about the RTC being too slow/fast. I see in the as3525 documentation that it's possible to correct for drift. Perhaps the RTC in the H320 can be calibrated too. I'll check. 19.58.49 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54B66406.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.59.40 # bertrik: don't think so (it's that philips pmic iirc?) 19.59.50 # yeah my e280v2 does that, the rtc drift 20.02.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.04.41 # looks like the pcf50606 in the H320 doesn't allow drift correction 20.17.43 Quit Buschel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.18.24 # regarding the RTC drift, lots of RTC use 32.0 kHz clocks but it's also common to have 32.768 kHz; on some soc it's is configurable so perhaps such a different can account for the drift (just an idea, might not be relevant at all) 20.19.24 # The h320 in question drifted randomly in all directions 20.19.34 # ok, then it's just broken :) 20.21.53 # how did it work at all? doesn't the crystal clock that entire chip? 20.35.25 # New commit by 03learman (r30245): Backport r30149 (AAC gapless fix) to 3.9 branch. 20.38.16 Join lear [0] (~2ec2de8d@giant.haxx.se) 20.39.32 # lear: ta :) 20.43.14 Quit lear (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 20.43.23 Join ReimuHakurei [0] (~kudo@208.119.81.194) 20.48.49 Join lear [0] (~2ec2de8d@giant.haxx.se) 20.53.30 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.53.51 Join fyrestorm [0] (~nnscript@cpe-24-90-84-81.nyc.res.rr.com) 20.53.51 Quit lear (Quit: CGI:IRC) 20.59.13 Join Jerom1 [0] (~jerome@79.132.51.139) 21.00.24 Join norly32 [0] (~norly@2a01:4f8:100:5322:0:bc28:d151:1) 21.01.09 Quit Jerom1 (Client Quit) 21.03.39 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 21.04.55 # pamaury: Unfortunately, I need my Clip+ back soonish 21.05.21 Part norly32 21.06.54 Join Jerom1 [0] (~jerome@79.132.51.139) 21.10.54 Join saratoga [0] (9803ec71@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.236.113) 21.11.35 Quit y4n (Quit: To those frustrated with their marginal existence, we transmit: your time is now.) 21.12.19 # sideral: did you want another clip+? they're only ~20 if you need one 21.13.17 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 21.13.23 Quit Jerom1 (Quit: Leaving.) 21.20.37 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@login.ok-labs.com) 21.20.37 Quit JdGordon (Changing host) 21.20.37 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 21.21.17 Quit ReimuHakurei (Quit: If I use this, I will disappear, and Shana-tan will remain...) 21.21.32 Join ReimuHakurei [0] (~kudo@208.119.81.194) 21.26.16 Join wayne [0] (~jahaa@p54A61709.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 21.39.22 Join dhrasmus [0] (~dhrasmus@64.122.197.146) 21.40.09 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 21.49.17 Quit Stephen__ (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 21.54.50 # saratoga: that would be another solution :) the 4GB version? 21.58.55 Quit God_Eater (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 22.02.36 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.03.00 # sideral: yeah, which side of the Atlantic are you in? 22.03.50 # saratoga: Europe. 22.04.07 # i can send you one 22.05.16 # that'd be cool! What do you reckon would the shipping cost, and how long would it take? 22.06.31 Quit JdGordon (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 22.10.25 # hi, i have a problem with my sansa e260v2. today i started Rockbox Utility and I overwrote my old rockbox version with the new version (complete installation, rockbox and bootloader). after that i booted rockbox and started with generating a new database. I thought the process has ended and so I clicked on "Database" to hear my music. there came the info that rockbox was still generating its database but from this moment rockbox hanged. I wai 22.10.25 # ted some minutes but the system didn't continue. I pressed the shut-down button till the mp3-player switched off. when i start the player now, the first and only thing that appears is the lable "Generating Tag-Database 1/9". Normally the original-firmaware started, when I connected my sansa with the computer. In my case the problem is: When I connect my mp3-player with the computer now, then not the original-firmware starts but rockbox (with 22.10.26 # the same problem). So I can't use rockbox and I can't overwrite my rockbox installation because the player isn't recognized by my computer. Maybe someone can help me, would be very great! greets :) 22.12.46 # you can start the original firmware by holding the left button (IIRC) while booting 22.14.20 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@login.ok-labs.com) 22.14.20 Quit JdGordon (Changing host) 22.14.20 Join JdGordon [0] (~jonno@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 22.16.04 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@207-144-19-39.cstel.net) 22.17.09 # gevaerts: I uploaded a (hopefully) final version of the audibuf access patch 22.17.25 # I'm currently preparing an updated buflib insertion patch too 22.19.24 Quit stripwax (Quit: http://miranda-im.org) 22.19.51 # thank you!!! :) didn't know that:) 22.20.08 # sideral, pamaury are you hacking at something in particular for the clip+ ? 22.20.45 # bertrik: I borrowed my Clip+ to pamaury for USB debugging 22.20.51 Join RansomTime [0] (~RT@wikia/vstf/Randomtime) 22.22.09 # We originally thought that maybe the USB corruption I see is device dependent, but right now I think it's more likely to depend on the host. I see the same corruption with another Clip+ 22.22.10 # wayne, not sure what happened, but you can probably fix it by wiping the .rockbox directory and reinstalling it, everything will be back at default. You won't need to install the bootloader again. 22.22.37 # perhaps do a checkdisk of your player too 22.23.33 Quit Thra11 (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 22.28.29 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@genkt-057-079.t-mobile.co.uk) 22.34.46 Quit robin0800 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 22.38.31 Quit sideral (Disconnected by services) 22.38.32 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 22.39.05 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@91.125.227.249) 22.45.12 # What format do album images need to be for rb to recognise them 22.45.37 Quit sideral (Remote host closed the connection) 22.45.41 # my collection's all been tagged with mp3tag, but not much shows up on RB at all 22.46.28 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 22.47.04 # for non-embedded, jpeg and bmp. Embedded only jpeg I think. Keep in mind that our jpeg decoder doesn't handle progressive jpeg 22.47.16 # ok 22.47.39 # They're all embedded jpeg IIRC 22.48.22 Join ChickeNES [0] (~ChickeNES@rouxbicon.rh.uchicago.edu) 22.49.04 Quit ReimuHakurei (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 22.51.21 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 22.51.38 Quit sideral (Remote host closed the connection) 22.54.09 Join sideral [0] (~sideral@rockbox/developer/sideral) 22.54.56 # sideral: sorry had to run, probably take a few days to get the player, then another week or two to ship it to the EU 22.55.13 # but shipping is cheap, i think when i sent a fuze to france it only cost a few dollars 22.55.31 Quit wayne (Quit: Verlassend) 22.59.27 # saratoga: sounds fine. thanks for your help! but before we do this, let's see whether pamaury still needs my player. IIRC he'll regain access to his own soon 23.01.18 Join nomada [0] (~nomada@200.85.168.54) 23.03.03 # sideral: bertrik: I'm not hacking something now, but I've not made any progress with clip+ usb although I have regain access to mine this week. Do you need some test on device ? 23.03.57 # gevaerts: the other patch is up too 23.04.43 # this one can be considered for committing, I'd say 23.05.19 # pamaury: Not something in particular. I need a Clip+ for general use (as well as it being my main hacking platform), and I have to return the borrowed one that I'm using now. So I'd like to have mine back if possible. 23.06.23 Quit dhrasmus (Quit: Leaving) 23.06.56 # The Clip+ is my favourite DAP right now. I tried to get accustomed to a FuzeV2, but although I liked the large color display, it's so huge and impractical in comparison ;) 23.07.59 # sideral: ok, I can send it back to you if you want 23.08.51 # BTW, my FuzeV2 does not have the USB corruption issue I see on the Clip+ 23.09.57 # pamaury: OK. It's a pity it wasn't a help in tackling the USB problems... 23.11.02 # I realized there was another option for USB: if we can't reliable usb, perhaps we can get reliable usb at full speed ? that's better than nothing, it would be interesting to try 23.12.00 # I'll have a try tomorrow on various hosts 23.13.37 # yeah, the host really seems to make a difference. 23.16.45 Quit stripwax (Quit: http://miranda-im.org) 23.18.07 # Slasheri, kugel: I've logged a dircache bug -- FS#12216 23.18.08 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12216 3Dircache shuts down when closing a file that was opened prior to reloading the dircache (bugs, new) 23.19.35 Quit saratoga (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 23.34.27 # pamaury: Thanks for your comments on the dircache bug! I'm not quite sure I understand the issues of dircache storing directories as well. The dircache shutdown waits for them to be released, and a dircache reload would rebuild all the needed information. Is there anything we can miss in between? 23.34.54 # kugel: I'll try to have a proper look tomorrow 23.37.35 # sideral: no, my thought was that the bug it about files but the same is probably true for directories 23.38.18 # I don't think so. 23.39.33 # Dir handles are held only for short periods, and the dircache synchronously waits till they are release before it exits 23.39.34 # ah, but what about dirs that are open when it reloads -- is that what you're wondering? 23.40.41 # yes 23.43.39 # anyway, this bug is not new, it's just that nobody took time to fix it :-/ 23.44.13 # and therer is the problem of the simulator 23.45.35 Quit krazykit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.46.07 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: Bye ;)) 23.47.45 # it looks like dircache keeps track of dirs even if it is disabled 23.48.41 # I think we're safe on that front 23.49.12 # I don't remember, and I don't want to have a look at it right now, I'll go to sleep instead :) 23.49.25 # what do you mean with "the problem of the simulator"? that we can't use the file layer on hosted platforms? 23.50.13 # yes but if you use OS file layer + dircache (which is stupid but useful for testing) then you can't recover the information the same way 23.50.46 # right, that's what I figured as well 23.51.16 # otoh, the dircache already has simulator specific code so it's not a big deal 23.51.59 # if would be really nice to have storage emulation for the simulator, but last time I tried, it didn't work and wasn't able to figure out the problem 23.55.00 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection)