--- Log for 12.09.111 Server: hitchcock.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 2 days and 4 hours ago 00.05.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.07.02 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 7.0/20110908135051]) 00.07.27 Quit petur (Quit: here today, gone tomorrow) 00.09.22 # http://pastie.org/2520268 implements reclaiming unused space for audio 00.14.33 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 00.23.37 Join Horschti [0] (~Horscht@p5DD57ADF.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.23.37 Quit Horschti (Changing host) 00.23.37 Join Horschti [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 00.25.19 Quit Horscht (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 00.29.11 Quit liar (Remote host closed the connection) 00.35.59 Join Scromple [0] (~Simon@115-64-195-104.static.tpgi.com.au) 00.39.32 Quit ender` (Quit: How many SEO experts does it take to change a light bulb, lightbulb, light, bulb, lamp, lighting, switch, sex, xxx, hardcore) 00.43.24 Quit shai (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 00.54.05 Quit ReimuHakurei (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 00.54.18 Quit soap (Quit: Leaving) 00.54.19 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@rockbox/user/Llorean) 00.54.53 Quit guymann (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 00.56.29 Join guymann [0] (~charles@66-159-173-205.adsl.snet.net) 01.02.25 Quit bertrik (Quit: And That, My Liege, Is How We Know the Earth to Be Banana Shaped) 01.09.02 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 01.23.29 Join shai [0] (~Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 01.27.52 Join JesusFreak316 [0] (~JesusFrea@pool-173-65-77-65.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) 01.48.33 Join Jak_o_Shadows [0] (~hayden@CPE-144-136-212-25.sa.bigpond.net.au) 01.51.14 Quit Scromple (Quit: Leaving) 01.52.33 Join Scromple [0] (~Simon@115-64-195-104.static.tpgi.com.au) 01.57.02 Part belak 01.58.40 Join milk [0] (~milk@94-193-93-226.zone7.bethere.co.uk) 02.03.18 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 02.03.21 Quit kadoban (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 02.05.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.08.12 Join ReimuHakurei [0] (~kudo@wireless.sit-co.net) 02.10.20 # New commit by 03funman (r30510): AAC: Enable SBR decoding for all targets 02.10.30 # New commit by 03funman (r30511): manual: mp3_encoder is available on lowmem targets 02.12.32 # r30510 build result: All green 02.13.55 # activating PS_DEC on clipv1 doesn't fit in codec ram (0x48000 bytes) only by 1kb 02.14.02 # it might fit with -Os 02.14.45 # r30511 build result: All green 02.26.41 Quit Jak_o_Shadows (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 02.32.33 Quit ReimuHakurei (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 02.35.47 Join ReimuHakurei [0] (~kudo@wireless.sit-co.net) 02.37.23 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.55=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 02.59.09 Quit evilnick (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03.10.39 Quit ReimuHakurei (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03.12.46 Quit funman (Quit: night) 03.42.00 Join rtr54g [0] (~18a85889@www.haxx.se) 03.42.58 Join rtr54g6 [0] (18a85889@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.168.88.137) 03.43.07 # Hello 03.43.45 # On the Sansa Clip+, is there any way to quit a plugin besides pressing the power button? My power button is broken and now I;m stuck in a plugin. 03.45.23 # rtr54g6: you should be able to remap keys in source, that requires that you checkout the svn and compile it though 03.46.34 # Cant connect via USB unless I turn it off 03.46.37 # =( 03.47.00 Quit rtr54g (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 03.51.06 Quit rtr54g6 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 03.53.58 Quit mudd1 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 04.02.57 Quit factor (Quit: Leaving) 04.05.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.13.22 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng181.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 04.34.29 Quit [7] (Disconnected by services) 04.34.47 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.44.14 Join ReimuHakurei [0] (~kudo@wireless.sit-co.net) 04.55.57 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.56.00 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.56.02 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.57.04 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.57.05 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.57.25 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 05.04.47 Quit JesusFreak316 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 05.05.23 Join bah [0] (~bah@c-24-20-32-150.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) 05.15.38 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 05.22.33 Join factor [0] (~factor@74.197.205.204) 05.27.18 Join kadoban [0] (~kadoban@ip98-165-177-158.ph.ph.cox.net) 05.32.57 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng181.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 05.34.05 Quit ps-auxw (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 05.35.07 Join Rob2223 [0] (~Miranda@p4FFF2273.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.35.30 Join ps-auxw [0] (~arneb@2001:470:c807:0:1532:4e5f:2ad3:4123) 05.38.38 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 05.42.23 Quit bieber (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 05.42.32 Quit Horschti (Quit: Verlassend) 05.42.36 Join bieber [0] (~quassel@162-78.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 06.05.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.25.05 Quit simonlnu (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.32.18 Join soap [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 06.41.33 Join simonlnu [0] (KavvX4DMiG@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 06.50.25 Join upul` [0] (cb5e5562@gateway/web/freenode/ip.203.94.85.98) 07.03.48 Quit mystica555_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 07.12.58 Part upul` 07.16.28 Nick tjb0607 is now known as tjb0607_away (~quassel@208-100-128-206.bendbroadband.com) 07.25.33 Join bluefoxx [0] (fuzzylomba@S0106e0cb4e0a6d8a.vs.shawcable.net) 07.33.21 Join mystica555_ [0] (~mike@71-211-209-55.hlrn.qwest.net) 07.35.23 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@5e007ec9.bb.sky.com) 07.35.23 Quit evilnick (Changing host) 07.35.23 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 07.35.59 Quit Rob2223 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07.36.14 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FFF2273.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.43.07 Quit milk (Quit: baaaiiii) 07.44.29 Join saratoga [0] (9803c348@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.195.72) 07.45.07 # funman: (for the logs) is it a good idea to enable HE on low memory targets? that won't leave much memory for malloc in the mp4 parser 07.47.52 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54A3AE81.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.51.55 Quit bluefoxx (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 07.54.56 Join bluefoxx [0] (fuzzylomba@S0106e0cb4e0a6d8a.vs.shawcable.net) 08.05.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.07.06 Join Jak_o_Shadows [0] (~hayden@CPE-144-136-212-25.sa.bigpond.net.au) 08.07.53 # funman: your submit r30510 is not a good idea. the m4a seek tables (required for playback, not only for ssek) need lots of RAM to be able to play long duration files -- we are speaking of several hundred KB. additionally SBR decoding allocates ~128 KB for data when such file is decoded (SBR+PS allocates ~161 KB) -- you can check this when compiling with FAAD_STATIC_ALLOC 08.10.06 Quit bluefoxx (Quit: bluefoxx) 08.10.40 # funman: with your change sansa clip (CODEC_SIZE = 0x48000) will not even be able to play AAC-HE SBR, but you shave off ~50 KB of RAM (binsize increase) that could be used for m4a tables 08.12.17 # funman: either you shou,d roll back this change or at least find a new CODEC_SIZE above which you enable SBR_DEC, but not PS_DEC. 08.14.37 Join bluefoxx [0] (fuzzylomba@S0106e0cb4e0a6d8a.vs.shawcable.net) 08.14.39 # personally I am not a fan of this either. reason: playability of long duration m4a's will suffer (we have quite some reports about this) 08.20.09 # alse see http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CodecMemoryUsage 08.20.23 # (section AAC and libm4a) 08.20.42 Quit Buschel (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 6.0.2/20110902133214]) 08.28.15 Quit saratoga (Quit: Page closed) 08.29.07 Quit GodEater_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 08.30.04 Join GodEater [0] (~bibble@cl-711.lon-02.gb.sixxs.net) 08.30.04 Quit GodEater (Changing host) 08.30.04 Join GodEater [0] (~bibble@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 08.42.51 Join ender` [0] (~ender@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.43.38 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 08.47.26 Quit simonlnu (Quit: brb) 08.47.51 Join simonlnu [0] (PiL0qhaanY@unaffiliated/simonrvn) 08.56.46 Quit Scromple (Quit: Leaving) 09.06.08 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.16.04 Join B4gder [241] (~daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 09.19.55 Join Jak_o_Shadows1 [0] (~hayden@CPE-144-136-212-25.sa.bigpond.net.au) 09.22.50 Quit Jak_o_Shadows (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 09.38.42 Join dfkt [0] (~dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 09.41.07 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 09.42.54 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) 09.42.54 Quit Zagor (Changing host) 09.42.54 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 09.50.25 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.53.46 Join n1s [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/n1s) 10.01.01 Join nick-p [0] (~nick@82-69-105-120.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) 10.05.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.20.37 Join Jak_o_Shadows [0] (~hayden@CPE-144-136-212-25.sa.bigpond.net.au) 10.22.22 Quit Jak_o_Shadows1 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 10.43.13 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 10.44.51 Quit simabeis (Quit: leaving) 10.44.58 Join simabeis [0] (~simabeis@lobmenschen.de) 10.51.53 Quit petur (Quit: *plop*) 10.54.31 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@vit94-1-82-67-248-70.fbx.proxad.net) 10.54.31 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 10.54.31 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 10.58.20 Join PurlingNayuki [0] (~71614e48@www.haxx.se) 11.06.54 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 11.08.55 Quit Jak_o_Shadows (Remote host closed the connection) 11.13.11 Join soap__ [0] (~soap@94.75.232.194) 11.16.40 Quit soap (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 11.20.53 Quit PurlingNayuki (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 11.23.23 Join rtr54g7 [0] (18a85889@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.168.88.137) 11.31.11 # I'm trying to browse the source but I don't know C and I'm very tired. Can the bootloader for the Clip+ support booting to Rockbox when it auto-powers-on via USB cable? 11.41.02 Quit bzed (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 11.41.36 Join bzed [0] (~bzed@devel.recluse.de) 11.51.17 Quit Rob2222 (Quit: Rob2222) 12.06.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.06.14 # gevaerts: have you actually got a tag which would make sense to use as the start index for %ss? 12.07.12 # JdGordon: not really. I was toying with the idea of making text be "written" slowly as the track progresses, but I don't think I can make that look good anyway 12.07.59 # i.e. using %px for the length 12.08.05 # wont that look absolutly terrible? 12.08.15 # Very probably, yes 12.08.24 # you could do it with skn vars (thought thats only enabled for touchscfreen targets) 12.08.53 # Unless you can do sound effects as well, so you can do a typewriter :) 12.09.05 # eeek 12.17.50 # anyone wanna volanteer to rewrite font.c to work with buflib? 12.24.58 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust703.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 12.26.26 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r30512): if font_glyphs_to_bufsize() returns 0 it means the font couldnt be loaded, so allocating the buffer size is pointless 12.28.31 # r30512 build result: All green 12.29.02 Quit robin0800 (Client Quit) 12.29.45 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust703.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 12.35.07 # kugel: gevaerts: did the idea of passing a void* data to the move/shrink callbacks ever come up? 12.38.08 # JdGordon: I had that idea shortly, but it wasn't needed and would just increase the handle metadata 12.39.37 # by 4 bytes 12.40.01 # I think the only sane way of putting fonts in buflib is going to require it 12.40.51 # what do you want to put there? 12.41.05 # the sturct font * 12.41.47 # because of the very likely disk access during font_* i need to know if a given font is locked or not, and doing a lookup through the font array to find the handle the callback is from is going to be slow 12.42.05 # you can put that pointer into the alloc 12.42.42 # the first 4 bytes of the alloc? 12.42.49 # hmm, yeah thats pretty nasty though 12.42.52 # or the last 12.43.03 # I don't find that nasty 12.45.30 # Though, putting the actual sturct font on the buffer would mean we only need to store the handle id array statically 12.46.38 # and if we use the font filename as the buflib name we can refcount fonts like I'm doing for the skin fonts properly 12.46.59 # font.c stil scares me, though I have beer in the fridge, so here we go! 12.47.34 # any obvious issues with putting sysfont and uifont buffers on buflib instead of having them static? 12.48.03 # how do you mean the refcount thign? 12.48.29 # JdGordon: if sysfont isn't static, you can't panic properly if buflib fails to allocate it? (or am I misunderstanding you?) 12.48.31 # if the same font is loaded twice we dont want to actually have it in ram twice 12.48.57 # sysfont should be static IMO 12.49.04 # gevaerts: true, ok 12.49.21 # but I understand that it means separate font handling 12.50.14 # JdGordon: the alloc name doesn't mean "only one with this name may exist" 12.50.27 # I know 12.50.41 # but if I'm keeping an array of font handles I can check just those allocs 12.51.28 # I tihnk sysfont is handled completly differently anyway 12.52.30 # UI font should be buflib only if it makes sense, i.e. if the buffer isn't constant size anymore 12.54.04 # I think putting it in buflib will make the code cleaner 12.54.09 # instead of special casing 12.54.46 # the difference between ui and sysfont is that sysfont is fully in ram guarenteed 12.55.50 # well, should be easy enough to at least alloc MIN(font_size, current buffer size) 12.56.50 # allocating is the easy bit, the hell comes from when the font doesnt fit in ram and we need to know if the buffer is a buflib handle or a static array 12.57.02 # if it is always buflib its simple 12.57.07 # +r 12.57.38 # I'm still not 100% sure that lru and fontcache wont kill this though 12.59.01 # you can do a struct { union { void* buf; int handle }; bool is_buflib } 12.59.13 # I think I did that with the tagcache uniqbuf 12.59.33 # ah no, removed that again because the uniqbuf could be static 13.00.40 # as the arch at work would say... "that's pants" 13.09.56 # font_get() is used extensivly :/ 13.10.11 # though almost exclusivly to just get the font height 13.15.16 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FFF2273.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.17.46 Quit nick-p (Quit: Leaving) 13.19.29 # looks like nothing outside of font.c touched pf->bits o we might be ok 13.20.38 # and nothing calling font_get_bits() yields between accesses 13.27.49 # New commit by 03nls (r30513): codeclib: coldfire asm for the TRANSFORM* functions in the fft and a little for the mdct, speeds up codecs using the codeclib mdct 0.5-1.5MHz on h300. 13.29.48 # r30513 build result: All green 13.48.24 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 13.48.38 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust703.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 13.48.44 Quit robin0800 (Remote host closed the connection) 13.48.59 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust703.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 13.49.09 Quit robin0800 (Client Quit) 14.06.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.09.42 # Is any Lua used throughout Rockbox itself? Or is it just provided for plugins? 14.10.07 # just plugins 14.10.27 # there is a general feeling that skins will eventualy be lua driven, but otherwise nothing even planned 14.11.03 # amiconn: ping? 14.11.07 # Any interest in porting the LuaJit interpreter? I might give it a shot. Don't know if it supports the CPU, but it gets pretty impressive speedups even without JIT. And it implements the full spec. 14.11.38 # "the CPU" ... rockbox runs on a number of different CPUs 14.12.15 # Oh, I was thinking in terms of my player. Maybe I'll take on porting it a little later on when I'm more familiar with C. 14.12.43 # I'm open to helping with Lua work though. 14.12.51 # most players run various versions of ARM cores though 14.28.01 Quit rtr54g7 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 14.28.39 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~LemonBoy@ppp-235-7.26-151.libero.it) 14.56.31 Join nick-p [0] (~nick@82-69-105-120.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) 15.00.30 Quit scorche (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.00.52 # hmm, the parse_testcodec.rb script doesn't work 15.00.54 Join scorche [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 15.01.32 # i used it successfully 15.02.03 # yeah, i've used it before too, but now it just prints parse_testcodec.rb:118:in `initialize': undefined method `[]' for nil:NilClass (NoMethodError) 15.03.03 # I think that means the regex didn't match 15.03.05 # ah, it does that if there are entries where test codec gave up 15.03.33 # i renamed the 2 heaviest ape files to skip them and test_codec then prints an error in the log 15.05.22 # deleting those lines makes it work but it's a bit fragile 15.06.07 # it should handle the error liens 15.21.31 Join dfkt_ [0] (~dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 15.21.31 Quit dfkt (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.24.55 Quit Judas_PhD (Remote host closed the connection) 15.30.42 Quit bluefoxx (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 15.31.23 Join bluefoxx_ [0] (fuzzylomba@S0106e0cb4e0a6d8a.vs.shawcable.net) 15.37.57 Quit kadoban (Read error: Operation timed out) 15.39.48 # * JdGordon has ui font loading from buflib "working" 15.40.26 # we really do need a plugin/debug option that can force a specific handle to try to move 15.44.58 Quit B4gder (Remote host closed the connection) 15.54.11 # I could re-add the test handle, it's of course otherwise useless and a ram waste 15.56.12 # Maybe as a build option? 15.56.27 # a test alloc is more useful than the debug menu at present 15.56.41 # pretty much there is no way to test that moving wont break things 15.56.45 # I'm wiling to bet they will 15.57.32 # I checked that all allocs move successfully 15.58.50 # including the ones I added? 15.58.56 # no 15.59.34 # can a debug menu item be added to just swap the positions of two allocs which are next to eachother? 15.59.45 # I don't suppose a 100 byte alloc would hurt much if it enables testing moving 16.00.01 # JdGordon: no 16.01.04 Join JesusFreak316 [0] (~JesusFrea@pool-173-65-87-216.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) 16.01.37 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.01.40 # aaaaand skin fonts loading from buflib working too 16.01.42 # ahh, I found the build scheduling issue 16.01.59 Join antil33t [0] (~antil33t@203-100-223-143.callplus.net.nz) 16.02.25 # I'll put my diff on fs so you guys can have a look at tonight. It's defintly not commitable yet but nice to know it is doable pretty simpley 16.02.40 Join JesusFreak316_ [0] (~JesusFrea@pool-173-65-87-216.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) 16.03.16 # voice related corruption seems to be present in the sim too, hopefully that will make it easier to debug 16.04.05 # kugel: did you see FS#12272 16.04.05 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12272 3genlang changes in r30481 cause wrong strings to display (bugs, new) 16.04.25 # n1s: yes, and I have a suspicion. I wanted to ping Torne about it 16.04.34 # ah 16.04.46 # I think the "*: XXX" fields should be last 16.05.04 # yay, memory leak in the skin fonts :/ 16.05.49 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust703.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 16.05.59 Quit JesusFreak316 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 16.06.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.06.24 Quit robin0800 (Remote host closed the connection) 16.07.07 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust703.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 16.07.29 Quit robin0800 (Client Quit) 16.07.43 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust703.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 16.08.21 Quit robin0800 (Client Quit) 16.08.23 Join robin0800_ [0] (~robin0800@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust703.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 16.08.36 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust703.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 16.08.46 Quit robin0800 (Client Quit) 16.08.59 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust703.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 16.09.55 Quit robin0800 (Client Quit) 16.12.05 # fs#12273 16.12.06 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12273 3use buflib for fonts (patches, new) 16.12.52 # im going to bed, so any comments in the tracker please... 16.13.01 Quit robin0800_ (Client Quit) 16.17.25 # is there a function I can call to keep rockbox from going to sleep on me? even when no song is playing and no keys are pressed? 16.17.49 # yeah, I crushed the bootloader of my fuze+ and now it doesn't boot \o/ I can boot out of recovery mode and I don't understand why it doesn't boot !! 16.18.22 Quit factor (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 16.19.46 Join mamarley [0] (~quassel@Lee-08-199.rh.ncsu.edu) 16.26.32 # Lalufu: yes 16.28.15 # background is that currently issuing iap commands do not prevent rockbox from going to sleep which is a bit annoying. 16.29.37 Quit zchs (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 16.29.48 # sounds lto me like they should be handled like regular button presses 16.30.30 # yeah. 16.30.50 # there is infrastructure to send button presses from iap already. 16.31.19 # is there a button i can "press" that does not actually do anything, except to reset the sleep timer? 16.32.07 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.32.26 Join antil33t [0] (~antil33t@203-100-223-143.callplus.net.nz) 16.33.07 # Lalufu: no, there's a "first button press only turns on the backlight" feature that prevents the first button pressed while the bl is off from doing anything 16.33.32 # anyway reset_poweroff_timer() seems to be the function you should call from somewehre 16.34.39 # ah, thanks. 16.34.40 Join powell14ski [0] (~powell14s@c-174-51-194-6.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 16.35.31 # button_tick seems to call it for button presses 16.42.07 # JdGordon: pong? 16.42.47 Join zchs [0] (~zchs@ool-ad02eb3f.dyn.optonline.net) 16.52.35 Quit Whopper (Read error: Operation timed out) 16.52.47 Join Whopper [0] (colin@about/cooking/sandwich/whopper) 16.56.17 Part Zagor 16.58.47 Join factor [0] (~factor@74.197.205.204) 17.10.53 # `1/win 2 17.13.15 # kugel: hm, odd 17.13.23 # kugel: when i tested it the lang files all came out identical 17.15.11 Quit nick-p (Quit: Leaving) 17.16.08 # Torne: I git am'd your patch so no changes :) 17.16.45 # Torne: does * match anything and nothing? 17.17.13 # n1s: hah, no 17.17.17 # that's the one :) 17.17.37 # one mo 17.19.59 # New commit by 03torne (r30514): Fix FS#12272 - genlang changes broke some targets ... 17.20.10 # should work now :p 17.22.03 # r30514 build result: 1 errors, 1 warnings (torne committed) 17.23.22 # bah 17.23.49 # not me, sim warnings from -Wunused-but-set-variable 17.31.55 # Torne: please try to fix it anyway! Several of us have tried and failed... 17.32.40 Quit bluefoxx_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.35.45 # oh? 17.36.10 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.36.49 # Torne: thanks - that commit did fix the problem 17.37.11 # mc2739: yah, sorry. the targets i tested it on must not have used that particular style of wildcard 17.38.49 Join y4n [0] (y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 17.52.45 Join factor [0] (~factor@74.197.205.204) 17.55.48 Quit otih (Remote host closed the connection) 17.57.08 Join otih [0] (~otih@0x01.f2tec.de) 17.57.08 Quit otih (Changing host) 17.57.08 Join otih [0] (~otih@CAcert/Assurer/otih) 17.58.17 Join kadoban [0] (~kadoban@ip98-165-177-158.ph.ph.cox.net) 18.00.35 Quit Llorean (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.02.33 # I wonder if the fuze+ has some debug uart pin somewhere... 18.02.57 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 18.02.59 # and if it's the case, it is easily accessible or not... 18.06.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.13.02 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@SEAS111.wlan.seas.upenn.edu) 18.17.49 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5) 18.19.11 # are there some more likely points where to put debug uart on a board of can it be anywhere usually ? 18.19.16 # *or 18.26.56 Join Stummi [0] (~Stummi@rockbox/developer/Stummi) 18.27.24 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 18.27.24 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 18.27.24 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 18.28.51 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@207.144.201.128) 18.30.26 Join Jerom1 [0] (~jerome@2a02:8420:216:a800:f66d:4ff:fe45:790f) 18.36.18 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 18.38.10 Join milk [0] (~milk@94-193-93-226.zone7.bethere.co.uk) 19.00.14 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 19.07.09 Quit mamarley (Remote host closed the connection) 19.11.30 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.11.51 Join antil33t [0] (~antil33t@203-100-223-143.callplus.net.nz) 19.16.44 Quit zchs (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 19.25.29 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@65.104.0.183.ptr.us.xo.net) 19.25.51 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54B66E9C.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.28.08 Quit Llorean (Changing host) 19.28.08 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@rockbox/user/Llorean) 19.30.12 # JdGordon: will there be a proper fix for FS#12268? or shall I submit the workaround patch for now? 19.30.12 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12268 3multiple WPS fonts not loading since r30478  (bugs, new) 19.33.06 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@p57B5730E.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.33.06 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 19.33.06 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.33.14 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: Bye ;)) 19.36.04 Join mudd1 [0] (~cmertes@ip-78-94-202-227.unitymediagroup.de) 19.36.11 # Buschel: considering JdGordon is working on moving fonts to buflib, I'd assume there will be a real fix 19.38.20 # ah, I see the patch now 19.41.28 # yep, works for me 19.47.04 Quit Buschel (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 19.47.38 # jhMikeS: are you looking at that voice bug or should i put it in the tracker? 19.47.39 Quit Ac-town (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 19.50.00 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@g225253127.adsl.alicedsl.de) 19.50.01 Quit bluebrother (Changing host) 19.50.01 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 19.52.02 Join Ac-town [0] (~Ac-town@osuosl/staff/actown) 19.53.10 Quit bluebroth3r (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.53.47 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 19.55.01 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g225253127.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.02.08 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.02.26 Join antil33t [0] (~antil33t@203-100-223-143.callplus.net.nz) 20.02.38 # n1s: which? 20.02.41 # * pamaury will never unmount the fuze+ screen again, that's too painful to mount it bacl 20.02.43 # *back 20.02.55 # jhMikeS: the hang/corrupt backdrop one 20.03.25 # the corruption is reproducible in a sim btw 20.03.33 # well, I suggested making sure the buffer is in state trashed if it's moved/changed in any way 20.04.28 # the voice buffer? 20.05.33 # and talk buffer. it will miss that it was changed if it was altered while not playing because the state will have only gone to "voiced", which is enough for voice 20.06.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.06.25 # i'll take a look at it tomorrow 20.11.17 Quit Strife89 (Read error: Operation timed out) 20.22.23 Join zchs [0] (~zchs@ool-ad02eb3f.dyn.optonline.net) 20.22.47 Quit slooopy (Quit: Verlassend) 20.24.42 Nick rinaku_ is now known as rinaku (johan@nibox.dgmil.net) 20.24.56 Part rinaku ("bye") 20.31.21 Join Judas_PhD [0] (~kevin@misterfluffy.dsl.xmission.com) 20.33.13 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@87-206-240-131.dynamic.chello.pl) 20.33.56 # pamaury: usual technique to find uart is to stream 0x55 or 0xAA bytes and poke with scope probe for square wave with known frequency 20.36.21 Join bluefoxx [0] (fuzzylomba@S0106e0cb4e0a6d8a.vs.shawcable.net) 20.36.57 Quit JesusFreak316_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 20.37.12 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54A3A745.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.44.25 Join Zagor_ [0] (~bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) 20.44.25 Quit Zagor_ (Changing host) 20.44.25 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 20.46.34 Join fml [0] (~chatzilla@manz-5f748e50.pool.mediaWays.net) 20.47.30 # The wps language is very expressive now. But is there a tag that would tell me whether the list item is an even or an odd one so that it's possible to implement alternating coloring? 20.48.19 # wodz: ok, thanks for the advise 20.48.39 # fml: I think we forgot to think about that 20.48.46 Join Horschti [0] (~Horscht@p5DD57095.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.48.46 Quit Horschti (Changing host) 20.48.46 Join Horschti [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 20.49.04 # I suspect a simple addition to %if() would do it 20.49.29 Quit Horscht (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 20.50.31 # gevaerts: yes. But is there a tag for the current item's number? And the modulo operator? 20.51.28 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@149.254.60.35) 20.52.58 # I'm sure JdGordon will implement it in no time! (Not that I'd use it, but I like completeness :-) 20.54.40 # fml: http://paste.debian.net/129611/ should provide the divisibility test, although maybe a straight modulo operator would be more complete. That leaves the item number 20.56.50 # gevaerts: I think divisibility test would suffice in most cases. 20.58.06 # It's enough for alternating colours anyway 21.00.13 # gevaerts: I have not tried skinned lists yet, so would like to ask you: are they still fast enough? How fast is the scrolling? 21.00.38 # Hard to say. I've only used them in the sim so far 21.02.38 # And do you see any noticable delay? 21.03.13 # It looks OK to me 21.03.18 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 21.03.30 # Of course everything will depend on how wild you go 21.03.44 # skinning featuritis :\ 21.05.52 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 21.06.00 # amiconn: just some thought experiment. The WPS I do really use consists of just the very basic tags. 21.06.21 # * amiconn would otoh like to see a better default than this cabbie thing 21.07.16 Quit stripwax (Client Quit) 21.07.23 Quit fml (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 6.0.2/20110902133214]) 21.08.49 # feel free to design one (which quite a few people agree on liking better than cabbiev2 and port to other targets) 21.08.58 # not. that. easy 21.11.12 # especially porting point :-) 21.14.18 Quit milk (Remote host closed the connection) 21.14.30 # Why do most plugins setup samplerate as 44.1kHz even if this means the need for upsampling? 21.17.12 # fml: http://paste.debian.net/129621/ has all you need for alternating colours 21.24.22 Quit krazykit (*.net *.split) 21.24.22 Quit preglow (*.net *.split) 21.24.22 Quit bug2000 (*.net *.split) 21.24.22 Quit nomada (*.net *.split) 21.24.22 Quit Bagder (*.net *.split) 21.24.22 Quit Guinness` (*.net *.split) 21.24.22 Quit tchan (*.net *.split) 21.24.22 Quit gevaerts (*.net *.split) 21.24.23 Quit yosafbridge (*.net *.split) 21.24.23 Quit markun (*.net *.split) 21.24.23 Quit Rondom (*.net *.split) 21.24.23 Quit rudi_s (*.net *.split) 21.24.23 Quit beta2k (*.net *.split) 21.24.23 Quit Barahir (*.net *.split) 21.24.23 Quit ranmachan (*.net *.split) 21.24.29 Join rudi_s [0] (~simon@austria125.server4you.de) 21.24.30 Join krazykit [0] (~quassel@li135-248.members.linode.com) 21.24.31 Join Barahir [0] (~Barahir@fb08schindler24.anorg.chemie.uni-giessen.de) 21.24.34 Join markun [0] (~markun@s3eea32f5.adsl.wanadoo.nl) 21.24.38 Join beta2k [0] (~Beta2K@d24-36-128-84.home1.cgocable.net) 21.24.41 Join preglow [0] (thomj@tvilling2.pvv.ntnu.no) 21.24.42 Join ranmachan [0] (ranma@2a01:4f8:130:9321::2) 21.24.43 Join bug2000 [0] (~bug@194.90.37.48) 21.24.45 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 21.24.53 Join gevaerts [0] (~fg@d54C144AB.access.telenet.be) 21.24.56 Quit bug2000 (Changing host) 21.24.56 Join bug2000 [0] (~bug@unaffiliated/bug2000) 21.24.56 Join Guinness [0] (Slayer@c-68-55-111-159.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 21.24.56 Quit Bagder (Changing host) 21.24.56 Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 21.25.00 Quit gevaerts (Changing host) 21.25.00 Join gevaerts [0] (~fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 21.25.05 Join Rondom [0] (~rondom@2a01:488:66:1000:b24d:4f2f:0:1) 21.25.11 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 21.25.47 Join nomada [0] (~nomada@irc.consciente.de) 21.29.30 Join yosafbridge [0] (~yosafbrid@li125-242.members.linode.com) 21.30.01 Quit kugel (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.31.57 Join rtr54g8 [0] (18a85889@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.168.88.137) 21.32.17 # Why does Rockbox need a custom patched GCC to build? 21.34.30 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@141.45.176.104) 21.34.30 Quit kugel (Changing host) 21.34.30 Join kugel [0] (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 21.34.31 Quit Zagor_ (*.net *.split) 21.34.31 Quit MethoS- (*.net *.split) 21.34.31 Quit GodEater (*.net *.split) 21.34.31 Quit ps-auxw (*.net *.split) 21.34.31 Quit Galois (*.net *.split) 21.34.31 Quit Farthen (*.net *.split) 21.34.38 Join GodEater [0] (~bibble@cl-711.lon-02.gb.sixxs.net) 21.34.46 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 21.34.50 Quit GodEater (Changing host) 21.34.50 Join GodEater [0] (~bibble@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 21.34.52 Join ps-auxw [0] (~arneb@p4FF7F8F7.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.34.57 Join Zagor_ [242] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 21.35.31 Join Farthen [0] (~Farthen@2a01:4f8:101:2a4:0:bc28:b2e1:9) 21.37.47 Join Galois [0] (djao@efnet-math.org) 21.38.51 Quit rtr54g8 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 21.47.55 Join saratoga [0] (9803ec71@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.236.113) 21.57.13 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~LemonBoy@ppp-133-36.26-151.libero.it) 22.03.17 Quit Buschel (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 6.0.2/20110902133214]) 22.03.17 Quit FoH (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.03.33 Quit y4n (Quit: HOLY SHIT! WE'RE ALL JUST LIVING ON A GINORMOUS FUCKING SPINNING ROCK FLOATING THROUGH SPACE CIRCLING A BIG FUCKING BALL OF FIRE!!!) 22.03.42 Join FoH [0] (~foh@adsl-98-83-161-35.bhm.bellsouth.net) 22.06.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.13.53 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng168.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 22.17.29 Quit Keripo (Client Quit) 22.25.17 Quit petur (Quit: here today, gone tomorrow) 22.32.07 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 22.32.17 Quit bluefoxx (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.33.55 Join bluefoxx [0] (FuzzyLomba@S0106e0cb4e0a6d8a.vs.shawcable.net) 22.34.53 Quit Stummi (Quit: Bye!) 22.36.28 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@207.144.201.128) 22.37.26 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 22.44.11 Quit dfkt_ (Quit: -= SysReset 2.55=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 22.57.05 # Can the sim simulate power connected and charging states? 23.23.43 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng168.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 23.30.26 Quit Jerom1 (Quit: Leaving.) 23.32.06 # it simulates "charging" somehow, if you watch the battery status it cycles through discharge, then charge. Not sure if that'll do for your purpose 23.33.38 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5) 23.36.29 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 23.37.26 # gevaerts: btw. about showing viewport borders - I believe the theme editor could 23.37.40 # It does, yes... 23.37.45 # * gevaerts had forgotten all about that 23.40.22 Quit ender` (Quit: Any fool can use a computer. Many do. -- Ted Nelson) 23.51.36 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.)