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(bugs, new) 07.04.00 # nope 07.04.52 # I could work around the font reloading with a brute force patch. but I still wonder why this effect wasn't visible before the font buflib changes 07.05.10 Quit Topy (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07.06.07 # the possible issue is that fontcache might be broken currently 07.06.23 # so it needs to buffer glyphs because on load it doesnt get your correct ones 07.06.31 # were there any changes in this area? 07.06.45 # you can test that easily by rolling back to pre buflib and rm /.rockbox/.glyphcache 07.10.17 # Buschel: firmare/font.c line 819, remove the "&& ...." part of the if and give that a try 07.11.34 # err, yeah, looks like the whole lru is uninitialised :/ 07.12.54 # let me check 07.15.11 # looks good at a first glance! :) 07.16.34 # cool, go ahead and commit it then :) 07.16.46 # pity it doesnt fix the clip not booting though (just tested) 07.19.58 # hmm, sorry. doesn't fix it. I didn't roll back my local changes :/ 07.21.08 # if you have some more ideas or patches just add them to the flysprayx task. 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I'm not really looking at that right now, but you never know 13.42.00 Join advcomp2019 [0] (~advcomp20@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 13.44.14 Quit advcomp2019_ (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 13.45.52 Join God_Eater [0] (93722cd1@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 13.47.57 Quit Jak_o_Shadows (Remote host closed the connection) 13.53.06 Quit ReimuHakurei (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 13.53.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.00.39 Join zchs [0] (~zchs@ool-ad02eb3f.dyn.optonline.net) 14.18.47 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust848.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 14.27.05 # perhaps we should aim our gcc optimization a bit higher than armv5 14.27.20 # (for android) 14.32.11 Quit Xerion (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 14.38.38 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 14.41.39 # I'd like to find some way to do power measurements too 14.42.38 # I wonder if any phone will run on usb power alone (without battery) 14.46.07 # Zagor: I thought about armv6 sicne I don't know about a phone that has armv5, however test codec didn't show a noticeable difference, except for ape which has armv6 specific optimizations 14.54.23 Join soap__ [0] (~soap@64-181-97-90.unassigned.ntelos.net) 14.58.22 Quit soap (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 14.58.54 Join soap [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 14.59.53 Quit soap__ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 15.07.37 # http://code.google.com/p/caliper/wiki/CaliperOnAndroid might be something to look at 15.08.06 # New commit by 03Blue_Dude (r30708): Silence build warning 15.15.24 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust848.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 15.16.14 # r30708 build result: All green 15.17.31 # wow, that was slow 15.20.00 # where'd roolku's servers vanish to? :) 15.21.19 # Zagor: when will the fuze+ builds start ? 15.22.23 # I just need to run a benchmark first 15.23.12 # ok 15.41.19 Quit FoH (Quit: it broke) 15.45.59 Join rjg [0] (~robert@odie.tomelliott.net) 15.48.41 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 15.51.01 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 15.51.11 Join matze` [0] (~pflaume@p5498ABC5.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.53.43 # New commit by 03zagor (r30709): Added Sansa Fuze+. 15.53.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.55.38 Join FoH [0] (~foh@adsl-98-83-144-95.bhm.bellsouth.net) 16.02.22 Quit matze` (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 16.05.36 Part LinusN 16.06.27 Join matze` [0] (~pflaume@p5498ABC5.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.22.14 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 16.33.18 Quit matze` (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 16.42.04 Join matze` [0] (~pflaume@p5498ABC5.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.42.47 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@207.144.201.128) 16.47.47 Join ReimuHakurei [0] (~reimu@165.139.179.10) 16.49.24 Quit matze` (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 16.49.42 Quit fyrestorm (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.55.17 Join matze` [0] (~pflaume@p5498ABC5.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.55.30 Join dominic_ [0] (~dominic@host86-145-124-215.range86-145.btcentralplus.com) 16.55.35 Nick dominic_ is now known as domjohnson (~dominic@host86-145-124-215.range86-145.btcentralplus.com) 16.55.46 # Ho 16.55.48 # *Hi 16.56.08 # I'm having really bad battery life problems with rockbox on an Ipod 5.5G 30GB 16.56.20 Join n1s [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/n1s) 16.56.31 # I was wondering whether themes affect the battery life significantly? 16.57.00 # <[Saint_AndChat]> No. 16.57.23 # is the battery life significantly better when it's running the original firmware? 16.57.25 # <[Saint_AndChat]> Not only not significantly, not even really measurably. 16.57.39 # Very significantly better. 16.57.51 Quit ReimuHakurei (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.58.17 # <[Saint_AndChat]> That's....odd. 16.58.18 Join matze`` [0] (~pflaume@p5498ABC5.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.58.20 # domjohnson: you've actually compared them doing like for like tasks? (playing the same format music) 16.58.57 Join powell14ski [0] (~powell14s@c-174-51-194-6.hsd1.co.comcast.net) 16.59.32 # Well, put it this way, battery was on 88%. Went onto database to try and find something - don't think it was tagged, so went into files, and before I got to the file, the battery was dead...song was playing in the background, but still... 16.59.52 # I've been running the original firmware for most of the day... 16.59.57 # there's something very broken there then 17.00.08 Quit matze` (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 17.00.10 # Will a reinstall of Rockbox help at all? 17.00.14 # I get *significantly* better run time out of Rockbox than the old apple firmware on my 5.5G 17.00.36 # <[Saint_AndChat]> Yeah, that's kinda important. You obviously can't compare Rockbox vs the iPod OF if you're playing a format the OF can't support. 17.01.10 # <[Saint_AndChat]> And no, I sincerely doubt a reinstall will help at all. 17.01.19 # AFAIK, everything is MP3. 17.01.32 # There might be some flac, but the only thing on there that might be flac I wasn't playing... 17.02.10 # <[Saint_AndChat]> I too, like God_Eater get a LOT better battery life out of my Video 17.03.03 # Right... 17.03.15 # domjohnson: I'd suggest getting a newer build of Rockbox in that case, as a minimum first step 17.03.31 Quit matze`` (Read error: Operation timed out) 17.03.49 # Can you recommend a safe build? 17.04.11 # <[Saint_AndChat]> I've no idea what's going on...backing up your music, restoring with iTunes, and reinstalling Rockbox certainly can't hurt. But I wouldn't expect it to make a difference. 17.04.24 Part Zagor 17.04.29 # <[Saint_AndChat]> All our builds are safe. 17.04.37 # Ok 17.04.52 # domjohnson: you can just save a copy of your current .rockbox dir if you ever want to go back 17.04.57 Join matze` [0] (~pflaume@p5498ABC5.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.05.38 # I wouldn't go with wiping the device with itunes just yet 17.05.43 # that's rather drastic 17.06.02 # Ok 17.07.11 # <[Saint_AndChat]> I just use that as the guaranteed method of making sure all is kosher. They're right its not needed, but, it also couldn't hurt. 17.07.27 # <[Saint_AndChat]> Provided you backup. 17.07.55 # would take bloody ages 17.07.56 # don't do it 17.08.01 # *yet ;) 17.08.17 # I agree, God_Eater :P 17.08.58 # <[Saint_AndChat]> "bloody ages"? Heh...weird definition of "ages" :) 17.09.08 # <[Saint_AndChat]> An hour tops. :p 17.09.34 # No - I have about 15 or 16G 17.09.41 # Actually, probably closer to 20 17.10.09 # Right, so I should do a manual install of the current build from Rockbox homepage for iPod video 17.10.10 # ? 17.10.35 # <[Saint_AndChat]> Just use rbutil 17.10.46 # <[Saint_AndChat]> No need for manual. 17.11.22 # Can you install the latest build from it? 17.11.27 # yep 17.11.29 # I thought it just installed the latest release... 17.11.33 # <[Saint_AndChat]> Sure. 17.11.36 # no, you can choose to get latest build too 17.11.47 # <[Saint_AndChat]> You can install the current build. 17.11.52 # ok 17.15.59 Join chkktri_ [0] (chikakitaa@ip-78-139-196-175.danet.in) 17.17.11 Quit chkktri (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.19.03 Join mortalis [0] (~4d6c62b0@www.haxx.se) 17.22.17 Quit mortalis (Client Quit) 17.22.32 Join mortalis [0] (~4d6c62b0@www.haxx.se) 17.22.33 Quit n1s (Read error: Operation timed out) 17.35.43 # Right...its on 87% now... 17.35.49 # Playing a song and browsing files... 17.36.52 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 17.37.08 # And its gone... 17.37.37 # simply gone or did it shut down? 17.37.44 # It shut down... 17.38.02 # But shut down because of low battery. 17.38.53 # and if I boot into apple firmware, it also recognises battery empty. 17.41.40 Join fatline [0] (~fatline@pool-108-27-113-221.nycmny.east.verizon.net) 17.51.52 # Just to confirm domjohnson, recharge to 100%, and then do the same thing in original firmware. 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I *may* be confusing something, but there was that CPU reason why the X8/ X10 min / pro don't have flash 19.49.27 # Hmm, it's actually ARMv6; maybe flash needs ARMv7 then 19.51.11 # what flash would need ARMv7 ? 19.51.21 # ah you mean adobe flash... 19.51.29 # Not sure how to say this: if nobody gives anything about the clipv1 (and several other targets) not working, maybe we should at least degrade their status from "stable" to "unusable" or "broken" for now. We need some kind of plan to get these in a working state again IMO. 19.51.40 Join saratoga [0] (98034408@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.68.8) 19.51.50 # bertrik: agreed 19.51.53 # MSM7xxx series is arm6 19.51.56 # http://www.precentral.net/adobe-declares-only-armv7-android-devices-getting-flash-10-1-pre-good-pixi-not-so-much 19.52.35 # bertrik: did you do some bisecting of the issue? 19.52.35 # i don't think armv5 android phones really exist, although some project boards and such might 19.53.14 # the flash binary is compiled for armv7, so it won't run on the MSM7xxx, but i think unofficial armv6 compiles exist somewhere 19.53.59 # yes, svn r30589 broke it 19.54.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.54.08 # I also found the combination "-march=armv5te -mtune=xscale" rather curious 19.55.36 # in rockbox? 19.55.44 # yes, for android 19.56.14 # that is very odd 19.56.49 # xscale is armv5, but i don't think any xscale android devices were made since intel sold off the line long before android took off 19.57.20 # we should probably compile for armv6 and schedule for A8 if at all possible (not sure what the gcc options are like for newer arm chips) 19.57.58 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 19.59.09 # it's available up to A9 20.00.32 # scheduling for arm11 probably isn't a great idea since not very many of those devices are still in use (and android didn't really become popular until it was mostly gone) 20.00.42 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@87-206-240-131.dynamic.chello.pl) 20.00.50 # and at the same time the 11 with its shorter pipeline can probably run A8 scheduled code pretty well 20.01.24 # I think the arm names vs versions were designed for maximum confusion :) 20.01.42 # yeah, at least the cortex naming scheme is less stupid now 20.01.43 # regarding various issues with buflib I would seriously consider creating branch and revert offending changes in trunk 20.03.03 # wodz: if someone raises his hand and says "I'd like to go off into my cave and solve this in a branch", I'm all for it. otherwise I fear branching it away risks leaving it to die. 20.03.24 # so, there's no way I could make the FMS appear in the UI simulator? 20.04.16 # polemon: I don't know. 20.04.31 # hmm, and those who do know are not here... 20.04.42 # polemon - if the simulated target has a radio, the simulator can show the screen 20.05.24 # the target has an optional radio 20.05.25 # and shows the 'FM Radio' in the menu 20.05.28 # iPod radio remote 20.05.42 # which Ipod exactly 20.06.06 Quit mortalis (Quit: CGI:IRC) 20.06.46 # but I guess the Ipod accessory ones are not simulated. I'm just trying to suggest a different target with radio and the same screen size 20.08.13 Join mortalis [0] (~4d6c62b0@www.haxx.se) 20.08.21 # the Nanos don't have a similar screen size one though, maybe you could a bigger one which would need taking special care of the backdrop though 20.12.08 Quit Zambezi (Quit: 2weeks idletime.) 20.12.20 # iPod nano 2g 20.12.41 Quit saratoga (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 20.12.53 # bertrik: you know about SD programming right ? 20.13.13 # pamaury, yes, a bit, but I forget stuff easily :) 20.13.42 # do you have any idea why the code would wait for tran state before transfering data ? 20.14.16 # I think the tran state is the only state that allows sd data transfer 20.15.34 # yes but the spec says that after reading/writing it stays in tran state, that's how I understand it anyway 20.17.09 # pamaury: it should stay in tran after select thats how I understand 20.17.55 # me too 20.18.06 # me too, but the s3c2440 sends a send_status command for each transfer to check tran state; given that the send_cmd has a mci_delay which basically wait a bit because it doesn't work without it, the transfer rate is really bad 20.19.00 # I removed it and it works flawlessly but I can't remove one of the mci_delay, no idea why it's needed 20.19.04 # I think this is redundant. Controller should report fault anyway if transfer fail 20.19.31 # pamaury, you removed what? 20.20.30 # the wait for the tran state 20.20.30 # * bertrik is usually very suspicious of code that needs magic delays "to make it work" 20.20.40 # * pamaury aggres with bertrik 20.20.57 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@5e007ec9.bb.sky.com) 20.20.57 Quit evilnick (Changing host) 20.20.57 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 20.21.30 # * Zagor concludes that "foreground" means "audio playing" and "activity" means "app open". 20.21.33 # I might be wrong, but I think you don't really need to exit transfer state once sd initialisation is done 20.22.01 # unless you use one controller to access two different cards on the same bus 20.22.02 # for our purpose, no you don't need to 20.23.06 # the mci_delay might have been added as a substitute for properly waiting for the card response on the command 20.23.58 # I was able to replace a few delays in the AMS/AMSv2 driver by a proper wait 20.24.00 # no, the code stills waits for the card response (when a responsive is expected), so something somewhere must be wrong 20.28.28 # pamaury, do you have a datasheet of this thing? 20.28.35 # the sd card controller I mean 20.28.44 # yes, it's in the s3c2440 datasheet 20.29.41 # ok, I'll have a look 20.30.28 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r30710): Rockbox Utility: refresh some more dynamic strings after translation change. 20.30.40 # don't bother, I'm working on it right now :) 20.31.15 # the driver is full of #if 1 and #if 0, that's really not a good sign 20.33.53 # hum, I think I find out 20.33.57 # *found 20.34.17 # no so sure in fact 20.36.20 # I see something suspicious: it appears to use |= to write to registers when clearing stuff 20.36.38 # r30710 build result: 0 errors, 6 warnings (bluebrother committed) 20.37.09 # so bits need to be written to be cleared on some controllers 20.37.11 # *some 20.37.45 # but indeed, checking that would be a good thing 20.37.49 # yes, they need to be written with just the bits that are meant to be cleared. When using |= *all* bits are cleared 20.38.25 # Like registers SDIDSTA and SDICSTA 20.39.10 # good point 20.39.16 # Not sure if that is actually causing problems here, but it's a common trap and can lead to apparently "missing" interrupts/events 20.39.25 Join thomasjfox [0] (~thomasjfo@rockbox/developer/thomasjfox) 20.40.32 Quit Thra11_ (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 20.43.55 # Additionally, I can't update the database without the battery running out on me, even from full charge. 20.44.03 Quit Buschel (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 7.0.1/20110928134238]) 20.44.50 # it does not seem to solve the problem 20.52.07 # hum, some statement look suspîcious SDIFSTA = SDIFSTA | S3C2440_SDIFSTA_FIFORESET; 20.55.28 # n1s: Ping! 20.56.51 Join Thra11_ [0] (~thrall@46.208.235.22) 20.57.54 Join hilbert [0] (~hilbert@adsl-89-217-75-41.adslplus.ch) 20.57.55 # n1s: About the Vorbis files that were tested yesterday: I started playing them on my Fuze (Rockbox r30699), and they took just as long to start playing there as they do on the iPod (about 6 seconds)! 21.01.56 # I noticed that Rockbox manages to draw album art within the first 3 seconds - turns out I have a cover.jpg sitting on top of the album folder (1647x1459 pixels. Explains why it takes so long.), and I'd forgotten about it. 21.03.41 # With the cover.jpg removed, the playback delay is pretty much gone. 21.05.43 # Strife89: nice bugfix :) 21.06.27 # That's a lot of pixels. 21.16.24 # * thomasjfox wonders if librsvg could be used for dynamic size theme rendering on RaaA 21.19.00 # pamaury, I see some other oddities in that sd driver: command SD_SET_BUS_WIDTH is sent with (rca | 2) as argument, I think it should just send 2 as argument 21.19.27 # also, the send_cmd in that area are all sent without waiting for a response 21.19.49 # This driver was really poorly written :) 21.20.38 # also not sure if you need to send a SET_BLOCKLEN at all 21.21.31 # might be for not-HS cards 21.22.41 # the rca | 2 is obviously true, don't know how the card react 21.22.54 # the mci_delay() avec clock switch is a bit weird 21.23.19 # *after 21.33.53 # New commit by 03bertrik (r30711): plugins: make local functions static for metronome, rockblox1d, wavview 21.37.09 # thomasjfox: svg is not realistic 21.37.47 # Zagor: Could be used for pre-rendering a bitmap for the specific screen size 21.38.01 # Zagor: Though that would probably drag rockbox in librsvg dependency hell 21.38.35 # theme designers don't want to create svg images for everything 21.40.07 # I'm still thinking how to handle the usable screen size reduction on maemo when switching from fullscreen (800x480) to windowed mode (800x420) 21.40.08 # r30711 build result: 0 errors, 6 warnings (bertrik committed) 21.42.27 # Zagor: For lazy theme designers there's the pixel2svg tool :o) 21.42.38 # thomasjfox: the same way we have to do in android: relative positioning 21.42.47 Join Zambezi [0] (Zulu@80.67.9.2) 21.43.20 Quit Zambezi (Changing host) 21.43.20 Join Zambezi [0] (Zulu@unaffiliated/zambezi) 21.43.52 # So the actual theme is smaller and painted f.e. 60 pixels lower in fullscreen mode? 21.44.39 # no no, relative positioning for each object. relative to the screen dimensions. 21.44.44 # ah ok 21.45.16 # pixels are unusable when we have such a huge list of different resolutions 21.45.23 # Do we support that already? 21.45.27 # no 21.45.40 # it's only in my head yet :) 21.46.04 Quit y4n (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.46.05 Quit pamaury (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.46.31 Join y4n [0] (y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 21.46.52 # Or let's buy JdGordon a luxurious sports car to bribe him on working on the theme engine again. 21.47.40 # Zagor: What about the background picture? Zooming? 21.48.17 # different bitmaps and fonts can be selected based on size/density 21.49.43 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@genld-219-243.t-mobile.co.uk) 21.50.38 # Zagor: Are you doing android fiddling at the moment? 21.50.46 # yes 21.50.47 # If the screen size doesn't fit an existing background picture, would you prefer to just position a smaller background or zoom it? 21.50.51 # cool 21.50.59 # It needs some love :) 21.51.03 # (UI wise) 21.51.08 # thomasjfox: I'd say crop, but I don't really know 21.52.06 # AlexP: do you feel like doing some skinning? :) 21.52.14 # er... :) 21.52.24 # what could possibly go wrong? 21.52.24 # Isn't [Saint_AndChat] doing something with that? 21.53.04 # he is. it's his theme that tricked me into this :-) 21.53.39 # aha :) 21.53.54 # I need to try that out - I tried to try v6, but I got the default WPS 21.54.02 # the menu/sbs worked though 21.54.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.54.06 Quit Jerom (Quit: Leaving.) 21.54.16 # And I couldn't be arsed at the time to figure out what was wrong 21.54.30 # ok. v6 worked nicely for me. 21.54.44 # 480x800? 21.54.50 # yes 21.55.04 # I must have copied it wrongly or something then 21.55.10 # I'll try again in a bit 21.55.36 # Native lists would be nice I think (not having tried his) 21.58.46 # it would, but I'm not focusing on that for now. I want to get our rockbox UI into a usable shape, release and *then* get cracking on making a lib + native gui. 21.59.20 # sounds fair 21.59.49 # I'd love to have it as more than a I'm using this because I'm involved in and love RB 22.00.54 # I assume you're doing something other than fiddling with the theme rewrite? 22.03.09 Quit mortalis (Quit: CGI:IRC) 22.03.26 Quit kadoban (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 22.04.19 # tonight I've been wrestling with the java code, trying to figure ou 22.04.55 # out where to wake up the tick timer. no luck so far. I think I need help from kugel. 22.05.10 # heh :) 22.05.33 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 22.07.18 # That's odd 22.07.34 # When I try to select the theme, I get dumped back to the launcher 22.07.47 # but the menu/sbs get's selected, the wps doesn't 22.07.53 # Or rather I get the default wps 22.08.07 # If I try to select the wps on its own, I get dumped back to launcher 22.09.15 # Incidentally, if using the widget when you press pause, it pauses but the icon stays showing pause 22.09.28 # Which you can then press again to play 22.11.19 # * Zagor added task #12312 22.12.13 Quit God_Eater (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 22.12.19 Quit y4n (Quit: HOLY SHIT! WE'RE ALL JUST LIVING ON A GINORMOUS FUCKING SPINNING ROCK FLOATING THROUGH SPACE CIRCLING A BIG FUCKING BALL OF FIRE!!!) 22.13.33 Quit Stummi (Quit: Bye!) 22.13.40 # Now that is odd - I replaced the one I built with one of rasher's and now the theme works 22.15.58 # * bertrik spotted by accident that function void display_keylock_text is used nowhere 22.16.29 # ah, and now the widget always shows play, it doesn't toggle between play and pause 22.17.00 # really? works for me 22.17.35 # yeah, it works - the icon just doesn't change 22.17.41 # Which version are you using? 22.17.44 # Square here 22.17.49 # line 22.18.28 # nope, line doesn't change either (for me) 22.18.45 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.55=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 22.19.15 # oh, in adding a second widget and playing with that, the first has now changed to a pause icon, but is now always pause no matter how many times I press it 22.19.33 # d'oh 22.19.43 # It does seem to change actually 22.19.50 # Just a few seconds after the audio change happens 22.20.04 # Maybe there is some inaudible fade out event going on or something 22.20.31 # yeah, it just takes ages on going from play --> pause 22.20.37 # as in a few seconds 22.20.43 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Heading out) 22.20.55 Join kadoban [0] (~kadoban@ip98-165-177-158.ph.ph.cox.net) 22.21.32 # On the WPS it changes instantly 22.22.52 # play->pause (i.e when starting playing) is instant for me, but the other way takes a long time 22.23.06 # yes 22.23.19 # but in the app, both are instant 22.23.21 # it doesn't change until the notification icon goes out 22.23.28 # just not on the widget :) 22.34.16 # New commit by 03bertrik (r30712): Remove unused function display_keylock_text 22.35.26 # bertrik: Erm, did someone kill the feedback for softlock targets? 22.36.32 # I don't know 22.39.07 # r30712 build result: 0 errors, 2 warnings (bertrik committed) 22.41.31 # I'll try to find out when it was last used 22.42.01 Join ReimuHakurei [0] (~reimu@208.119.81.194) 22.44.08 Quit robin0800 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 22.44.14 Join RandomTime [0] (~RT@wikia/vstf/Randomtime) 22.45.55 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@genld-224-243.t-mobile.co.uk) 22.46.32 Quit RansomTime (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 22.46.33 Nick RandomTime is now known as RansomTime (~RT@wikia/vstf/Randomtime) 22.47.16 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@87-206-240-131.dynamic.chello.pl) 22.52.39 # amiconn, this function was last used in SVN revision 10631! :P 22.52.49 # wow 22.57.37 Quit thomasjfox (Remote host closed the connection) 23.00.34 Quit ender` (Quit: Little expense had been spared to create the impression that no expense had been spared.) 23.01.03 # ohhhh...k 23.01.50 # what devices are affected by buflib-font change? 23.02.24 Quit ReimuHakurei (Remote host closed the connection) 23.03.27 # wodz, at least clipv1 and clipv2 that I know of 23.05.20 # amiconn reported problems with sh targets also 23.05.25 # anything else? 23.12.06 # wodz, if I build the clip+ with rockbox USB support, I get the same symptom (clip+ without USB appears OK with SVN) 23.12.28 Join freddyb [0] (~freddybbb@216.8.239.112.etczone.com) 23.14.33 # svn works on the c200 anyway 23.15.43 # wodz: For hwcodec not only the font stuff is problematic 23.16.58 # amiconn: what else? I was thinking about serial mod of my player and fiddle with gdb-stub but as you pointed out this is pointless in case of font issue 23.17.06 # Anyone want to try a fix for font crashes? This locking code blocked some crashes for me. http://www.pastie.org/2640180 23.17.20 # I don't really understand what's going on. Introducing buflib made hwcodec hang. Making buflib actually used (without compaction) fixed that again, but immediately after that compation got enabled, which made it crash on boot 23.18.00 # kugel provided a fix (not yet committed afaik) which fixes the crash - it turns it into a hang again 23.18.11 # The font stuff then caused another crash 23.19.03 # freddyb: what crash does that fix, specifically? 23.19.24 # it seems we have several possibly font-related issues 23.20.29 # If I switch themes, the theme engine trys to access font data while its getting moved. It crashes my iPod both target and sim. 23.21.42 # ok, good that it also crashes the sim :| I can't reproduce the clipv1 problem on the sim. 23.21.50 # So, r30312 hung, r30380 works again (or at least boots - didn't check much further), r30383 and higher crash (with svn) 23.22.12 # bertrik: on my clipv1 I get a "SD: Data timeout" panic with svn 23.22.16 # (r30381 and r30382 don't build for hwcodec - they were fixups) 23.23.00 # Tested up to r30589 23.23.37 Quit n1s (Remote host closed the connection) 23.25.23 Quit bluefoxx (Quit: bluefoxx) 23.25.27 # New commit by 03bertrik (r30713): Make function calc_db in peakmeter.c static ... 23.25.37 Join bluefoxx [0] (fuzzylomba@S0106e0cb4e0a6d8a.vs.shawcable.net) 23.29.45 # r30713 build result: 0 errors, 3 warnings (bertrik committed) 23.30.23 # huh, the "buttons locked" splash worked on my Ondio running the admittedly old revision 29754 23.32.16 # but way newer than r10631 23.32.54 # not sure if it uses some other function though 23.34.12 Part Zagor 23.41.14 Quit domjohnson (Remote host closed the connection) 23.46.48 # I asked this earlier today, but is there a wat, how I could test .fms for the iPod nano 2g? 23.49.36 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@42.5.113.87.dyn.plus.net) 23.51.17 # polemon: I think the easiest option would be to hack config file to think nano2g has fm. That way compiling sim should give you what you want 23.52.01 Quit Thra11_ (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 23.54.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.55.17 # polemon, what is the problem really? the sim doesn't allow you to enter the radio screen? 23.56.25 # I guess radio screens only accessible with IAP devices aren't simulated 23.56.53 Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.56.55 # with... or while it is connected 23.57.19 # yes CONFIG_TUNER is commented out in config for nano2g so sim doesn't show fm