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hey all 09.44.24 # anyone awake/ alive here tonight? 09.45.30 # don't ask to ask, just ask. 09.45.54 Join GodEater_ [0] (93722cd0@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 09.49.07 # just wanted to let someone know about a 'bug'? or issue with the latest build.. just to say, i've been a long time user of rockbox, using on my sandisk sansa e260 now for some years.. i love it, and its been great. so heres what i've noticed. i had been running the official ver until now, i just wanted to try out latest build. and right off it seems to cause the usb to not link at usb 2.0. i tried putting it back on and off a few times, restarting, etc, ma 09.52.33 # <[Saint]> You need to shorten your posts... 09.52.44 # <[Saint]> There's a character limit. 09.53.00 # <[Saint]> You exceeded it, and your post was truncated. 09.53.38 # <[Saint]> The last we got was "restarting, etc, ma" 09.53.57 # <[Saint]> ha-man: ^ 09.54.44 Quit [Saint] (Quit: Quit...) 09.55.09 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 09.58.32 # ok sorry 09.58.55 # .. i tried putting it back on and off a few times, restarting, etc, make no diff. so i went back to official. at usb 1.0, theres no point. just wanted to let ya know. also wondered if anyone else had same prob. 10.01.43 # i was looking in the forums for an area for build discussion 10.01.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.01.56 # but havnt really found any talk about the test builds 10.02.09 # its late , and i'm tired, i'm probly just being blind 10.03.45 # heh, ya i am blind, after taking the time to really look, i went under the bug tracker, and sure enough right at the top, there is a post about this very issue 10.04.01 # so, i'm sorry to have bothered you 10.04.03 # here 10.06.17 Quit parafin (Disconnected by services) 10.06.23 Join parafin|away [0] (parafin@parafin.static.corbina.ru) 10.08.13 # ok welp, good talk then heh 10.09.11 Quit ha-man (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 10.10.11 Nick parafin|away is now known as parafin (parafin@parafin.static.corbina.ru) 10.17.01 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 10.19.22 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@iwl138.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 10.19.55 # How do I know how many lines do I fit on the screen with current font? 10.20.26 # I recall there was a function to retrieve line height 10.21.07 # <[Saint]> kugel_: (draged over here from #*-community: 10.21.15 # <[Saint]> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/30204410/RaaA/UBUNTU%20FONT%20PACK/Ubuntu%20Font%20Pack.zip <-- Ubuntu font pack 10.21.40 # <[Saint]> Many, many, many hand-crafted AA fonts. 10.22.09 # font_getstringsize() is overkill for what I need 10.23.09 # wodz: viewport_get_nb_lines() 10.24.23 # hmm and if this is the default viewport what should I pass to this function? 10.24.42 # I was always curious what nb stands for, but this gives you the max simultaneous lines for a viewport 10.25.00 # wodz: the viewport you're drawing into 10.25.41 # <[Saint]> its usually "nota bene" (take note), but probably missused in this case. 10.26.13 # <[Saint]> some people seem to use "nb" to mean "some arbitrary value" 10.26.27 # ok, I'll ask the other way round - I want to display backtrace either from panicf() or from UIE and I wan't to know how many entries should I display 10.26.43 # I would decipher nb as number 10.27.28 # I don't think a convinience function exists for the default viewport 10.28.16 # earler you would have used LCD_HEIGHT/font_get(FONT_UI)->height, but new code shouldnt have that 10.28.55 # lovely :/ 10.29.22 # plus I think font_get(FONT_UI) doesn#t work anymore since the recent font rework (not sure though) 10.29.41 # wodz: the problem is that we don't have a list widget in firmware 10.29.53 # it shouldn't be needed, but I see this is a special case 10.30.57 # <[Saint]> nota bene - a Latin phrase (or its abbreviation) used to indicate that special attention should be paid to something; "the margins of his book were generously supplied with pencilled NBs" 10.31.04 # <[Saint]> wow...I knew something! :) 10.31.19 Nick kugel_ is now known as kugel (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 10.31.57 # [Saint]: a script to generate them would be more helpful :) 10.32.17 # <[Saint]> kugel: That's...not really possible. 10.32.41 # <[Saint]> convttf is so broken, its not possible to get a consistent output without manually fine-tuning. 10.32.54 # so convttf has bugs? 10.33.04 # <[Saint]> Shit yes. 10.33.11 # is there a bug report about this? 10.33.37 # <[Saint]> There's many comments about its various brokenness in its tracker thread. 10.33.47 # <[Saint]> It was committed with those bugs. 10.34.03 # I thought I solved them in the last versions 10.34.14 # I worked on convttf quite a bit pre-commit 10.34.32 # if there are still bugs I'm unaware of them. a new bug report would be helpful 10.34.40 # <[Saint]> Besides which, I personally think that fonts should only be generated when a font changes. And that themes should pull in pre-converted fonts. 10.35.09 # <[Saint]> this would simplify wpsbuild.pl a lot, too. 10.36.07 # <[Saint]> With the frequency the fonts actually change...building them on-demand is, rather pointless. 10.36.41 # what do you mean? 10.37.58 # <[Saint]> Well, its not so much of an issue now that the only theme included is cabie. But the fonts are "made to order", no? 10.38.04 # <[Saint]> As in, built when needed. 10.38.40 # <[Saint]> This isn;t an issue for you and I, as fonts only need to be built once. But the build clients do a clean build each time. 10.39.07 # <[Saint]> Irrelevantly building fonts that never (in the greater scheme of things) change. 10.39.13 # you care about the build clients? 10.39.21 # <[Saint]> Why should I not? 10.39.29 # <[Saint]> We all should. 10.39.44 # I thought there was an actual problem (other than build efficiency) 10.39.53 # <[Saint]> Taking irrelevant processes out of a build is something all should care about. 10.40.38 # so, anyway, fonts are build at make zip/install time 10.40.41 # <[Saint]> There seems to be no reason why the fonts could;t be pre-converted, and grabbed from a folder, as opposed to built when required. 10.40.51 # plus only the fonts needed for the shipped themes are build 10.41.12 # <[Saint]> Right, but, I don't think they should be being built at all. 10.41.51 # <[Saint]> They practically never change, they should only be built when a font is changed. 10.41.58 # so you want hundreds of .fnt in svn to save 0.01s of the build process? 10.42.16 # <[Saint]> hundreds...c'mon. 10.42.22 # <[Saint]> be realistic 10.43.18 # I highly doubt your plan has a measurable influence on the build performance 10.43.49 # <[Saint]> That doesn't mean its a reason to keep doing things in a way thats blatantly stupid ;) 10.43.54 # but it probably make the download of the source bigger/take longer 10.43.59 # <[Saint]> Versioning fonts wouldn't be hard, at all. 10.44.37 # why do you call that "blatantly stupid"? that's clearly your personal opinion 10.44.53 # generatic stuff when needed is an accepted pattern 10.45.12 # <[Saint]> So its perfectly fine for the build system to rebuild something needlessly every round? 10.45.34 # <[Saint]> And, it is needless. 10.45.44 # <[Saint]> There's no argument against it not being so. 10.46.27 # I think we have lots of worse problems to discuss 10.48.06 # [Saint]: I would appreciate of you could open a bug report about the convttf bugs 10.50.55 Quit [Saint] (Quit: Quit...) 10.51.30 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@101.98.129.152) 10.51.30 Quit [Saint] (Changing host) 10.51.30 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 10.53.37 # <[Saint]> kugel: Will do. 10.53.45 # thanks 11.09.11 Quit scorche (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11.10.59 Join scorche [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 11.41.15 Nick [Sanyi] is now known as [sanyi] (~sanyi@unaffiliated/alexanderc) 11.48.23 Quit bluebrother (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11.48.31 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 11.49.38 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g226069109.adsl.alicedsl.de) 11.50.21 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@g226069109.adsl.alicedsl.de) 11.50.22 Quit bluebrother (Changing host) 11.50.22 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 11.59.03 Quit hilbert (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 12.01.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.06.06 Join GermanMushroom [0] (~c@s5146db6a.adsl.wanadoo.nl) 12.14.52 # New commit by 03pamaury (r30810): sbtools: fix sbtoelf to handle files with more than one hundred commands 12.16.58 # r30810 build result: All green 12.31.30 Join hilbert [0] (~hilbert@adsl-89-217-174-239.adslplus.ch) 12.34.49 Quit nick-p (Quit: Leaving) 12.36.59 # pamaury: you can use sizeof() for string literals 12.37.24 # it doesn't really matter 12.39.11 Quit tjb0607 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12.46.00 Quit GermanMushroom (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13.28.44 Quit hilbert (Quit: Textual IRC Client: http://www.textualapp.com/) 13.30.20 Join balintx [0] (~quassel@szerver1.gulyasp-koll.sulinet.hu) 13.30.23 Quit balintx_ (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 13.36.55 Quit balintx (Remote host closed the connection) 13.37.29 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 13.37.37 Join balintx [0] (~quassel@szerver1.gulyasp-koll.sulinet.hu) 13.38.14 Join mudd1 [0] (~cmertes@ip-78-94-202-227.unitymediagroup.de) 13.39.18 Join hilbert [0] (~hilbert@7-111-204-62-static.cable.fcom.ch) 14.01.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.04.55 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 14.07.44 Quit mudd1 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 14.10.00 Join mudd1 [0] (~cmertes@ip-78-94-202-227.unitymediagroup.de) 14.13.44 Join tchan1 [0] (~tchan@c-69-243-144-187.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 14.16.15 Quit tchan (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 14.16.16 Quit mudd1 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 14.18.04 Join mudd1 [0] (~cmertes@ip-78-94-202-227.unitymediagroup.de) 14.20.49 Quit mudd1 (Client Quit) 14.25.51 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.26.14 Join antil33t [0] (~antil33t@203-100-223-143.callplus.net.nz) 14.35.03 # I'd like to request that http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12264 be merged for the next release. 14.44.38 # * [Saint] feels lazy 14.44.46 # <[Saint]> FS#12264 14.44.48 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12264 3Make logf() output via serial optional (advanced configure option) (patches, unconfirmed) 14.45.14 # Lalufu: in what way does that matter for a release? 14.46.12 # <[Saint]> I wouldn't believe it does...I'd actually argue its exactly the type of thing that should wait until after the release (given the current state of svn head) 14.46.38 # <[Saint]> Its definitely a nice idea, though. 14.51.01 Nick tchan1 is now known as tchan (~tchan@c-69-243-144-187.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 14.51.09 Quit tchan (Changing host) 14.51.09 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 14.52.59 # I don't really care if it's in the next release (i.e. 3.10), just getting it into the tree at some time would be nice. 14.55.33 # <[Saint]> Right, well, if its on the tracker...and in a committable state, it'll happen *eventually* 15.08.32 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust848.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 15.11.56 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 15.34.53 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 16.02.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.05.46 # Torne: when do you think you will have time to work on the gerrit transition? is there anything we need to resolve before that? 16.05.59 # policy stuff, i guess? 16.06.06 # i started writing some stuff up last night 16.08.48 # excellent 16.08.53 # Torne: is it possible that somehow the current (old, svn-copy) git tree is slightly corrupted? 16.10.09 # I have a local pull of that tree, and a branch that had the HEAD of master from a week ago or so merged into it. 16.10.51 # yesterday I made a "git pull" on master (which went fine), and attempted to merge the new HEAD of master into my branch. 16.11.00 Join chkktri_ [0] (chikakitaa@ip-78-139-196-175.danet.in) 16.11.11 # I was getting merge conflics in files I know I never touched in my branch. 16.11.43 # uh oh, got boot failure while trying to boot latest revision 16.11.56 # D2 r30810 16.12.45 # Lalufu: nobody has touched it other than the existing auto update script 16.12.46 # problem should be in last 10 updates 16.12.53 # as far as i know 16.13.07 # umm how to update to certain revision? 16.13.09 # i suspect you have git'ed wrong :) 16.14.40 # Zagor: anyway, i will see what i can do tonight, or this weekend 16.14.44 # sorry for the ongoing delay here 16.14.53 # but i work at work a lot more than i used to in my old job :) 16.14.59 Quit GodEater_ (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 16.15.03 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 16.15.03 # leaving less convenient work time to spend working on rockbox ) 16.15.10 Join japc [0] (~japc@194.65.5.235) 16.16.20 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc3-brig8-0-0-cust848.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 16.16.39 # no problem. I'm just trying to see if there's anything we can do/discuss while you're busy so we don't have to wait for that when you get actual time to spend 16.16.48 # Yeah, erh 16.17.06 # i'll check my list in a few :) 16.17.08 Quit japc (Client Quit) 16.17.16 Nick kugel is now known as kugelp (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 16.17.30 # well, when my shift of merging is over :) 16.19.02 # are we happy with just doing the minimum to let developers start committing to git and just cutting over? 16.19.10 # and then fixing infrastructure afterward? 16.19.17 # well, you were, and i don't really mind :) 16.19.24 # i mean people in general 16.21.18 Join mortalis [0] (~mortalis@77.108.98.176) 16.21.40 # yes, I think so (as you said). the build/web infrastructure is useful but not vital, and if it's broken a few hours isn't a big problem. 16.24.33 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 16.43.10 # <[Saint]> chkktri_: "svn up -r XXXXX" 16.43.24 # <[Saint]> (where XXXXX == the revision) 16.45.25 # <[Saint]> I assume you're making your own builds...if you're not, and you want a specific revision, you're rather screwed ;) 16.48.22 # New commit by 03buschel (r30811): Some iPod Video's need a 2nd call of ub_drv_init() to establish the USB connection. This workaround breaks the USB functionality for other devices. ... 16.48.22 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54A3B018.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.48.57 Join z180 [0] (~chatzilla@ip-109-42-174-247.web.vodafone.de) 16.49.49 # r30811 build result: All green 16.50.33 # Buschel: so is this a fix or a regression? 16.51.17 # a fix for a regression that was done to fix a regression :) 16.51.53 # so "This workaround breaks the USB functionality for other devices" describes the pre-commit behaviour? 16.52.18 # * [Saint] is confused too... 16.52.26 # now I got you. my commit message may be misleading 16.52.27 # <[Saint]> Did you fix it, or break it? ;) 16.52.46 # <[Saint]> Or fix one thing that breaks many? 16.52.51 # <[Saint]> ;) 16.53.13 # r30701 fixed USB for iPod Video but broke it for other devices, r30811 fixes the regression for the other targets 16.53.31 # <[Saint]> Aha! 16.53.51 # * Buschel thinks he should have taken this as commit message :) 16.54.58 # and the iPod Video still works? 16.55.27 # of course 16.57.33 # the 2nd call of usb_drv_init() is not really correct. but until there is no other solution we stick to that. my iPod Video does not connect without this 2nd call since r30546 16.57.50 Nick kugelp is now known as kugel (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 16.58.25 Nick kugel is now known as kugelp (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 17.03.12 Part Zagor 17.07.51 Join GermanMushroom [0] (~c@s5146db6a.adsl.wanadoo.nl) 17.10.59 Join y4n [0] (y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 17.14.50 # i have opened my Thomson EH308 found a TCC 770 and a 8gb microdrive without CF connector 17.15.38 # it has no buttons even volume adjust works via touchpad 17.19.32 Quit y4n (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.20.26 Join y4n [0] (y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 17.29.34 Join [Saint_] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 17.33.07 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 17.33.31 # Buschel: r30701 fixed USB for *some* ipod videos :) 17.34.29 Join ChickeNES [0] (~ChickeNES@128.135.100.102) 17.35.21 Quit ChickeNES (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.35.36 Join ChickeNES [0] (~ChickeNES@128.135.100.102) 17.35.41 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-175-223.student.uu.se) 17.35.42 Quit n1s (Changing host) 17.35.42 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 17.37.23 # gevaerts: I am convinced we will find another one :) 17.40.43 Quit hilbert (Quit: Textual IRC Client: http://www.textualapp.com/) 17.47.43 Quit GermanMushroom (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.50.32 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! 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21.25.05 # or do some weird surgery 21.42.53 # fixed it with weird surgery. i think. 21.46.46 Quit hilbert (Quit: Textual IRC Client: http://www.textualapp.com/) 21.48.17 Quit y4n (Quit: PÆNTS ØLF!) 21.49.06 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@149.254.61.232) 22.00.40 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 22.01.42 Quit bluefoxx_ (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 22.02.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.03.15 Join bluefoxx [0] (fuzzylomba@S0106e0cb4e0a6d8a.vs.shawcable.net) 22.10.48 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.5) 22.14.20 # Torne: sorry about that :) 22.15.02 # Zagor: i've worked around it 22.15.07 # it's made my conversion repo look weeird 22.15.15 # but the superflous extra branches are just not pushed to gerrit 22.15.21 # so they don't hurt anything except my sanity 22.15.21 # :) 22.16.22 # I've just realised that a lot of the tags in the copy on gerrit are actually pointing to other tag objects, not to commits 22.16.27 # because i cocked up some batch processing at some point 22.16.39 # fixing that now, but it requires overwriting old tags on the server which is naughty :) 22.18.00 # oh well 22.18.06 # i hope nobody has a clone of it they care about :p 22.20.15 # Zagor: one thing i was going to ask you: how do you want to handle giving permissions to committers? 22.20.37 # we need to get everyone (or at least everyone who is active) to prod gerrit sufficiently to have an account, and someone (currently you or me) has to add them to the group 22.21.01 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@149.254.61.232) 22.21.04 # yeah, I suppose I should have admin rights 22.21.07 # you do 22.21.38 # but yeah, right now the only person in "Rockbox Committers" is me 22.21.40 # :) 22.21.54 # that group doesn't have any actual permissions right now, bt they will do once we turn, yaknow, commits on 22.22.32 # right, so I'll just have to go through the list and add everybody 22.22.44 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@207.144.201.128) 22.22.54 Join freddyb [0] (~freddybbb@216.8.239.112.etczone.com) 22.23.04 # ok 22.23.09 # i dunno if there is a less manual way to do it 22.23.44 # I'd guess it's no more than 30 minutes of work, so I doubt automating it is worth the time 22.24.22 # well, ok :) 22.24.37 # i am writing up a proposal for our commit guidelines now 22.24.42 # great 22.24.59 # i'm gonna go with the "you can't upload merges unless you are in an extra group, but you can add yourself to that group" technical implementation 22.25.13 # and then just have some guidelines about what preferred strategies for committing are 22.25.25 # so people who are not used to git are unlikely to make horrible mistakes 22.25.46 # and people who are wanting to do weird git stuff are hopefully reined in somewhat by guidelines but not actually ultimately restricted 22.25.46 # Has anybody done work on the build server yet? 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