--- Log for 27.11.111 Server: pratchett.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 13 days and 7 hours ago 00.01.17 Join Rondom [0] (~rondom@2a01:488:66:1000:b24d:4f2f:0:1) 00.02.21 Quit Stummi (Quit: Bye!) 00.03.37 # pamaury, what do you think of funman's alignment fix for amsv2 usb? 00.04.03 # it's probably not going to make things worse ... 00.04.05 # it is probably necessary for the amsv2 too, I posted a patch on FS 00.04.16 # it can't harm to commit it 00.05.10 # * gevaerts will investigate the x5 thing tomorrow 00.06.07 # pamaury, I can apply, test if it still works the same and commit it, ok? 00.06.15 # ok 00.08.01 Quit Zarggg (Quit: Rebooting client...) 00.10.58 Quit tjb0607 (Read error: No route to host) 00.12.47 Join tjb0607 [0] (~quassel@bc10753.bendcable.com) 00.16.29 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@24.229.139.169.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) 00.19.18 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: Ex-Chat) 00.22.05 # The handle updating in buflib_buffer_shift is obviously broken, right? It updates handle->alloc as if it's union buflib_data *, but it's actually char *. 00.24.20 # USB seems to be working no worse than before (on the clip zip), so I'll commit that change in the next few minutes 00.27.02 # Why do we need 64 bytes in the control request buffer anyway? 00.27.19 # because DMA may write a bigger packet? 00.29.11 # bertrik: iirc, because it's the maximum packet length, so the dma could write up to that amount 00.29.33 # but I thought packets could be bigger for high-speed USB 00.29.47 # s/packet size/transfer size 00.30.15 # not for control 00.30.19 # or is that only for non-control packets? 00.30.22 # ah, ok 00.30.31 # IIRC... 00.30.33 # * gevaerts checks 00.31.18 # yes 00.31.23 # but if I recall correctly, the as3525v2 driver handles setup packets differently and will never allow the dma to write more than 8 bytes when pointing it to the setup packet buffer 00.32.35 # so actually, if the dma does it's job right, this patch is not needed with the as3525v2 driver (but is with the s3c...) 00.36.26 Quit ender` (Quit: Anyone who cannot cope with mathematics is not fully human. At best, he is a tolerable subhuman who has learned to wear his shoes, bathe, and not make messes in the house. -- Robert A. Heinlein) 00.43.23 # pamaury, ok, but I think I'll commit it anyway 00.44.11 Join dv_ [0] (~quassel@chello080108009040.14.11.vie.surfer.at) 00.45.22 # you could put a mark just after those 8 bytes and check for it, panic if the mark has been changed 00.50.32 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 00.55.51 # New commit by 03bertrik (r31063): Sansa AMSv2: potential USB fix from FS#11664 by funman: ... 00.57.41 # r31063 build result: 2 errors, 8 warnings (bertrik committed) 00.59.16 Quit Llorean (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.59.17 # meh 01.00.28 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@rockbox/user/Llorean) 01.02.18 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 01.03.26 # bertrik: is that the 'aligned' ? 01.03.38 # I don't know exactly to be honest 01.04.39 # yes 01.05.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.05.21 # funman: what were you asking me about trying USB with a ramdisk? 01.05.44 # } _ep0_setup_pkt __attribute__((aligned(32))); __attribute__((aligned(32))); 01.06.00 # USB_DEVBSS_ATTR already contains the aligned, and a ';' ?! 01.07.07 # New commit by 03funman (r31064): AMSv2: remove stray ; from USB_DEVBSS_ATTR 01.07.09 # beware: might contain red 01.07.32 # saratoga: i wondered if ramdisk over usb worked flawlessly on amsv2 01.08.47 # r31064 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (funman committed) 01.09.23 # bertrik: the aligned(32) is superfluous 01.10.43 # ok, I'll remove it. I can apparently also simplify the struct a bit, using a union { struct, byte[]} instead of struct { union {struct, byte[]}} 01.11.48 # unnamed unions are gcc extensions also, your method would be more standard 01.11.56 Quit gbl08ma (Quit: Saindo) 01.16.15 Part metaphys 01.16.16 Nick kugelp is now known as kugel (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 01.22.13 # New commit by 03bertrik (r31065): Sansa AMSv2 USB: Simplify union around struct usb_ctrlrequest and remove duplicate alignment attribute 01.23.50 # r31065 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (bertrik committed) 01.25.14 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 9.0/20111122192043]) 01.26.03 Quit perfectdrug (Quit: CGI:IRC) 01.35.15 # Poodlemastah: which backdrop image is loaded when you tinhk it shldnt be? the one set in the setting right? 01.35.18 Quit Thra11 (Quit: kthxbai) 01.37.17 # Actually, cabbiev2.bmp is ALWAYS buflib'd at least once. 01.38.07 # what is the ufll patchh? 01.38.24 # arg, what is the full path? (the buflib a.lloations page will tell you) 01.38.48 # (/.rockbox/backdrops/cabbiev2.bmp) 01.38.52 # If I have another backdrop, it is also loaded. This even works for cabbiev2, I currently have two cabbiev2 entries. 01.39.05 # interesting :) 01.39.26 # open a bug, and attach your config.cfg and and theme configs and skins you use 01.39.35 # I wont be able to look at this till later tonight 01.40.04 # backdrop: - in the config should be enough to sotp that 01.40.08 # stop* 01.40.58 # When I mean always, I meant always, even with backdrop: - in config, there is still one cabbiev2 entry. 01.41.03 # Will post the bugreport now. 01.49.09 Quit tjb0607 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.49.50 Quit markun (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 01.50.26 Join tjb0607 [0] (~quassel@bc10753.bendcable.com) 01.54.02 # * dreamlayers is confused by buflib_compact and trying to figure out what's broken and what isn't. 01.58.10 Quit liar (Remote host closed the connection) 02.00.56 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 02.18.14 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 02.23.13 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@p57B57B27.dip.t-dialin.net) 02.23.13 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 02.23.13 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 02.40.49 # New commit by 03dreamlayers (r31066): In buflib_buffer_shift(), properly update handle->alloc values, which are char * and not union buflib data * 02.41.57 Join Louis126 [0] (4898d3ab@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.152.211.171) 02.42.40 # r31066 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (dreamlayers committed) 02.42.52 # test 02.43.12 # dreamlayers: what did that bug affect? 02.44.34 # hello rockbox support? 02.45.00 # Louis126: if you have a question, just ask it 02.45.14 # ok, thanks 02.45.31 # saratoga: Nothing, because only pictureflow uses that function and it doesn't use allocations when the values are wrong. It moves the buffer back before using the allocations. 02.45.48 # ah ok, was wondering how that was never noticed :) 02.46.16 # I don't understand what this instruction means: Open a new terminal, and navigate to the “rbinstall” folder. 3. Run mkamsboot, passing the name of the OF and bootloader files that you downloaded, in addition to a name for the output file. 02.46.45 # Louis126: if you're just trying to install rockbox, you don't need to do that 02.47.14 # I have been trying to install it for the last 3 hours 02.47.51 # I have a folder on my desktop labled rbinstall 02.48.07 # i have the rockbox utility 02.48.23 # you should use rockbox utility 02.48.30 # did you see my post on the forums? 02.48.53 # it keeps giving me erros when I try to download the bootloader 02.49.04 # yes i did 02.49.25 # did you try that? 02.50.46 # also I saw you were using the Linux/MacOS instructions, which of those two are you running? 02.51.12 # no, i have windows vista 02.51.26 # heh, well then maybe the windows instructions would work better :) 02.51.45 # yeah....i'll go back and check your response.....thanks 02.55.04 # i did go back and select the appropriate drive letter for the clip+, and ran complete installation.....i keep receieving errors when I do this 02.55.42 # which error? 02.55.59 # should i disconnec the device and see if the installation took yet....how will i know when the installation of rockbox has actually taken place on the device? 03.03.03 Join ReimuHak_ [0] (~reimu@wireless.sit-co.net) 03.05.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.06.28 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03.07.01 Quit saratoga (Changing host) 03.07.01 Join saratoga [0] (9803c31c@rockbox/developer/saratoga) 03.10.48 Quit saratoga (Quit: Page closed) 03.13.05 # Does firmware/buffer.c have any purpose anymore? Nothing uses bufalloc anymore, and it's broken anyways, because allocations would overlap with memory used by core_alloc. 03.19.35 # I mean buffer_alloc. firmware/buffer.c seems to be a remnant from before, and only the part supporting core_allocator_init() seems to be used. 03.22.43 # the rb utility keeps informing me that there is a "new" version of rb.....but when I try to download it, I get the error that I cannot open the zip file 03.22.52 # the whole thing is just a vicious cycle 03.23.11 # which version do you have? (and which OS) 03.23.46 # v 1.2.10 03.23.53 # windows vista home basic 03.25.13 Join saratoga [0] (9803c31c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.195.28) 03.25.28 Quit dreamlayers (Quit: Bye) 03.27.04 # is 1.2.10 the most up to date version of the rb utility? 03.29.14 # no its one version out of date, but it shouldn't matter for your player 03.31.44 # well i guess it does add support for patching the newest clip+ firmware, but thats not too important since the older one works just as well 03.33.33 # ok, i'll try the older one instead 03.36.46 # i think 1.2.10 update was broken yes 03.38.49 Quit liar (Remote host closed the connection) 03.42.54 # i just ran the rb utility, using the install rb to my device option, and now having safely removed the clip+, do NOT see rb installed on the device..... 03.43.28 # what am i doing wrong 03.44.25 # explain what you did in more detail and maybe someone will know 03.47.43 # i have my clip+ selected (letter E) using rb Utility.....then used the "Install RB on your player" option......I chose the current build, and backed it up first. Then it started supposedly installing it on my device ---- i even noticed the WRITING option going on, on the clip+ for a brief time....the installation ended....I safely removed the clip+ from my laptop, turned it off and then on again, and see NO evicence of RB being in 03.48.05 # did you provide it with a firmware file? 03.48.25 # i still don't know how to do that 03.48.41 # did it prompt you to do so? 03.48.55 # after which step would it have done so? 03.49.15 # when you select install 03.50.07 # i don't think so.....are you saying it should do so after selecting COMPLETE INSTALLATION? 03.50.11 # I can try it again 03.50.55 # if you didn't get a prompt you probably hit the wrong option 03.51.12 # ok 03.51.19 # i'll try this again 03.52.40 # oh reading more carefully you said above that you just installed the main build 03.52.41 # yeah, its asking for a bin file 03.52.45 # hit "complete installation" 03.52.47 # i don't know where to find that 03.52.52 # it gives you a link, read that 03.53.23 # and if you can't do that, just stick the Sandisk firmware :) 03.53.49 # it gives 3 links.....which one are you referring to 03.55.01 # read the text ;) 04.03.18 # will the sansa forum reading material explain to me where to locate the bin file, or will the manual, or will the sansaAMS? 04.20.53 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.20.54 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.21.16 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.21.52 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.21.54 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.21.56 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.23.10 Join Horschti [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 04.26.40 Quit Louis126 (Quit: Page closed) 04.26.43 Quit Horscht (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 04.28.32 Quit TheSeven (Disconnected by services) 04.28.44 Join [7] [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.42.49 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 04.53.15 Join dreamlayers [0] (~bgjenero@rockbox/developer/dreamlayers) 05.05.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.21.58 Join nosa [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-42-199.clt.bellsouth.net) 05.24.26 Quit nosa-j (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 05.24.27 Nick nosa is now known as nosa-j (~m00k@adsl-74-235-42-199.clt.bellsouth.net) 05.55.56 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FFF2FB1.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.56.49 # New commit by 03dreamlayers (r31067): Add STORAGE_INIT_ATTR to static ata.c functions that are only called via ata_init(). 05.58.36 # r31067 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (dreamlayers committed) 05.59.48 Quit Rob2223 (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 06.08.04 Join JdGord [0] (~AndChat@106.70.42.245) 06.32.41 Quit saratoga (Quit: Page closed) 06.41.24 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng187.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 06.50.55 Quit Keripo (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.54.53 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@dhcp0751.kin.resnet.group.UPENN.EDU) 06.56.08 Quit dreamlayers (Quit: Goodnight) 07.05.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.20.42 Join doomedtx [0] (~add81c9b@www.haxx.se) 07.22.30 # noob ?: just pulled out my Archos Jukebox 20 after many years of not using it. It has flashed version 2.5 on it. I ran the installer and it installed version 3.91 to the device, but when I restart it I still see 2.5. The new abrec file in root gives me a ROLO file length mismatch error. What's the next step? 07.24.55 Quit Keripo (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07.29.31 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@dhcp0751.kin.resnet.group.upenn.edu) 07.33.56 Join saratoga [0] (9803c31c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.195.28) 07.34.32 # doomedtx: did you originally flash rockbox to the players ROM rather then install it on the hard disk? 07.35.03 # as far as I remember, yes...it seems like that was the preferred method in 2003 when i did this (judging by timestamps) 07.35.52 # the archos was many years before my time, but i suspect our installer is just installing a build to the local disk 07.36.07 # i'm not even sure if its still possible to flash modern versions of rockbox 07.36.50 # that's what it looks like...i'm reading the manual which has info about flashing...hopefully using that and the original firmware from archos I can undo this...otherwise stuck at 2.5 I guess 07.37.14 # regarding updating, this might interest you: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,29203.0.html 07.40.33 # FWIW we really should have forked archos off a while ago rather then slowly squeezing the binary out of the archos's limited memory 07.40.55 # I'm looking through there now. Perhaps I will leave it at 2.5 since there's not much to be gained that's not already available. I d/led the firmware from Archos and am able to run the original firmware, but Rockbox still owns the device. It seems like way back then there was an option to hold down a button to force the stock loader...will have to play around a bit 07.41.37 # some of the early 3.x builds might be good as well 07.41.42 # not sure, i don't have that player 07.42.00 # you could ask in this channel during the day in Europe and maybe find someone who knows more then i do 07.42.03 # I'm getting ready to sell the device and thought the buyer might appreciate the newest version, but they will have to appreciate the old version if I can't figure this out soon 07.42.35 # selling a 10 year old mp3 player :) 07.43.32 # You'd be surprised...several sold recently on eBay for more than I'm asking, and mine was upgraded to a whopping 60GB by replacing the internal HD. That was a ton of space in the early 2000s! 07.44.48 # ha 07.46.11 # In any event, I think it's not worth the time to figure out how to re-flash the old rom. I seem to remember either manually creating a ucl file out of the firmware I wanted to use or something like that. The new owner can mess with it if they want. Thanks fir your time 07.47.23 Quit doomedtx (Quit: CGI:IRC) 08.00.51 Join jdgord_ [0] (~AndChat@58.104.46.78) 08.01.48 # New commit by 03jethead71 (r31068): PortalPlayer: Loading of stack munge value into r4 was moved in r30741 to after the idle stack init loop, breaking the usage readout. 08.03.22 # r31068 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (jethead71 committed) 08.04.35 Quit JdGord (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 08.17.52 Join JdGord [0] (~AndChat@58.104.46.78) 08.17.53 Quit jdgord_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.33.02 Join telliott [0] (~Tim@d27-96-170-180.evv.wideopenwest.com) 08.34.40 # How do I get rid of the icons in the file browser. I'm editing a skin and couldn't find the answer. 08.36.12 Quit JdGord (Quit: Bye) 08.37.19 Quit knittl (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 08.40.18 Quit telliott (Quit: Leaving) 08.43.43 Join knittl [0] (~knittl@thehappy.de) 08.43.44 Quit knittl (Changing host) 08.43.44 Join knittl [0] (~knittl@unaffiliated/knittl) 08.52.08 Quit knittl (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 09.04.59 Join nickp [0] (~52456978@www.haxx.se) 09.04.59 Quit nickp (Client Quit) 09.05.08 Join nick-p [0] (~52456978@www.haxx.se) 09.05.12 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.05.53 # show icons: off (in .rockbox/themes/theme_name.cfg) 09.06.33 Quit nick-p (Client Quit) 09.07.27 Join knittl [0] (~knittl@thehappy.de) 09.07.27 Quit knittl (Changing host) 09.07.27 Join knittl [0] (~knittl@unaffiliated/knittl) 09.19.49 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 09.19.50 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 09.19.50 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 09.21.52 Quit saratoga (Quit: Page closed) 10.11.39 Quit Bagder (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 10.33.45 Join Bagder [0] (~daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 10.33.46 Quit Bagder (Changing host) 10.33.46 Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 10.45.07 Join ender` [0] (~ender@foo.eternallybored.org) 10.49.03 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@91-65-137-216-dynip.superkabel.de) 10.49.15 # lebellium: hi 10.49.58 # hi! 10.50.25 # So, I did the "ignore background image" thing but its not in svn yet, i got sidetracked with something much coolerr 10.50.43 # really? what? /D 10.50.47 # :D 10.51.14 # layering in the skins, so you can draw onto the background, so you could have different images as different viewports backgrounds 10.51.27 # awesome 10.51.29 # !!! 10.51.35 # the use case im dealing with is putting the AA as the background image, but it doesnt bloody work :/ 10.51.58 # you wanted that for the Sansa Zip? 10.52.04 Join Xerion [0] (~xerion@5419A766.cm-5-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) 10.52.17 # I havnt got a zip :) 10.53.06 # ah ok because in the OF the album art is in background and I guess dfkt and some others would like to get the AA as background pic 10.53.23 # thats been a general wishlist tihng for ages 10.53.45 # but then using this means you could draw a white rectangle for some viewport on the top layer 10.54.02 # https://plus.google.com/u/0/102969486368377382090/posts/hgxGXwzvPus 10.54.02 # anyways, I'm very happy you work on these things. Finally some improvements in the skins engine :D 10.55.14 # the screenshot looks promising 10.55.34 # there is a better one somewhere else, that grey line is a bug i havnt been able to track down 10.55.57 # I noticed the scrolling text often causes some display bugs 10.57.00 # BTW, what players do you own? A Gigabeat? 10.57.04 # what sort of display bugs? 10.57.22 # I've got a dozen players (see my forum sig :p ) my main one atm is ipod video 10.58.12 # your forum sig is "Using PMs to annoy devs about bugs/patches is not a good way to have the issue looked at." lol 10.58.27 # indeed 10.59.39 # I mean, my R0 theme works well on the R0 but not in the Toshiba Gigabeat UI simulator, I don't know why. So if you own a Gigabeat, maybe you could try my theme on the device 11.00.07 # I dont, that screenshot is the beat-f because its the same screen size 11.00.35 # ah ok 11.00.49 Join y4n [0] (y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 11.00.51 # and any clue why that occurs? 11.01.05 # is it because of my complex and ugly code? lol 11.01.09 # R0 is touchscreen? 11.02.21 # No, the R0 only has tactile buttons like the Gigabeat and it worked in the UI simulator for my previous theme versions 11.02.54 # not sure, havnt looked into your skin much, I just remember you have alot of code which can be shrunk 11.03.25 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 11.03.34 # but why does it work on a device and not in the UI simulator. Isn't it the same skins engine? 11.03.48 Quit Xerion (Read error: Operation timed out) 11.03.58 # it is, depends on what the exact issue is 11.04.05 # very much sounds like a bug I need to fix 11.04.49 # Well I guess the simulator doesn't like when I use too many subimages for the battery indicator lol 11.05.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.07.55 # are you the only one working on the skins engine? 11.08.14 # yep 11.08.42 # ah thats right, use %xd(label, %bl) so the battery level instead of speicifng the subimage manually 11.10.27 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r31069): Don't load the icons unless show_icons is actually enabled. And respect that setting in the shortcuts menu 11.12.02 # r31069 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (jdgordon committed) 11.12.19 Join Topy [0] (~Topy44@f049194220.adsl.alicedsl.de) 11.15.17 Quit T44 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11.21.32 # I'm not sure I understand what you mean. For instance my code is %?bp<%?bc<%t%xd(Ba);%t%xd(Bb)...%t%xd(Bo)|%xd(Bo)>|%?bl<%xd(Bp)|%xd(Bp)|%xd(Bq)...|%xd(BF)|>> 11.21.40 # what should I write instead? 11.23.23 # pity saint is offline, he's much better at writing skin code than me... all thouse %xd()'s can be merged into a single one 11.23.45 # %xd(B, %bl) will draw the subimage that %bl is equal to 11.23.47 # sort of 11.25.18 # ah ok, I'll try that. Actually my code is just based on the other themes and on the CustomWPS guide... 11.26.00 # yeah, they are outdated 11.26.08 # that shortcut in %xd is relativly new 11.26.14 Join markun [0] (~markun@s3eea32f5.adsl.wanadoo.nl) 11.26.42 # and are the new tags written anywhere on the RB website? 11.27.33 # they are all on CustomWPS 11.27.36 # just no exmaples 11.27.37 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@vit94-1-82-67-248-70.fbx.proxad.net) 11.27.37 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 11.27.38 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.27.51 # I've been meaning to write up a best practices guide but never can be bothered 11.28.09 # Yeah I don't mean new tags but new tricks :) 11.30.24 # did you make any theme (for ipod video or other) with these kinds of tricks or "best practices" ? 11.31.24 # no, I've useless at making skins! 11.31.45 # * JdGordon disblaes the backdrop image and have flashbacks of the awesome rockbox blue background :) 11.35.18 # kugel: if you dont like the empty shortcuts menu.... put something in it :) 11.35.58 # I'd have thought you probably would have the buflib allocs page in there... 11.38.30 # Does the wiki recognize FS# as a special token? 11.38.41 # no 11.42.23 # kugel: have you looked into adding rtc wakeup to raaA? 11.47.05 Join Stummi [0] (~Stummi@rockbox/developer/Stummi) 11.56.54 # JdGordon: I dislike that it's empty by default 11.57.46 # no I haven't looked into that 11.58.57 # otoh, the clock app's alarm can launch apps on alarm so it's sort of already provided by the os 11.59.36 # it can? 12.01.50 # kugel: can you do me a 1024*768 raaaa build please? 12.04.17 Nick chkktri_ is now known as chkktri (chikakitaa@78.139.196.175) 12.04.37 Quit chkktri (Changing host) 12.04.37 Join chkktri [0] (chikakitaa@unaffiliated/chkktri) 12.25.16 Join ukleinek [0] (~ukl@2001:6f8:1178:2:21e:67ff:fe11:9c5c) 12.34.48 # Was the change from tango_icons* to tango_icons*16x16.bmp intended? Should I update my themes to use the new path? 12.35.53 # err, hat happened to defaulting to grid mode in the wps if a skin isnt loaded? 12.36.33 # Any lcd code experts online? I wonder what I need to do or what I can reuse to allow video playback on the clip zip (rendering from yuv) 12.37.48 # arg, the touchscreen is pracfically unusable on the touchpad 12.37.56 # it thinks every press is a scroll :/ 12.37.59 # it being rockbox here 12.38.36 # I see many driver implement the lcd_blit_yuv function in C, using an asm function (lcd_write_yuv420_lines) to draw a couple of lines 12.41.03 # And this asm function lcd_write_yuv420_lines appears to be target specific, right 12.42.04 # As an initial attempt, I could use lcd-as-memframe.S to convert YUV->RGB for a few lines in RAM, then copy it over to the display using SSP 12.43.31 # bertrik: is it that important to get video playback on a 96*96 target?! Oo Isn't it anything more useful to implement or improve before? 12.44.17 # Why *not* work on this? I just do the stuff I enjoy and I think most of the essentials have been done already 12.44.36 # kugel: why dont the global colours work on android? global_settings.fg/bg_pattern? 12.46.45 # lebellium, what stuff do you think needs attention? 12.47.03 # wtf? colours work fine on my phone, not on the touchpad though 12.47.05 # arg 12.48.27 # bertrik: personally I only miss a WiseChip colors calibration and RDS without breaking my theme, all the rest seems to be stable enough for a daily use :) 12.49.10 # I'm not planning on doing any colors calibration for the WiseChip, we're doing basically the same as the OF now 12.50.08 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r31070): Free a handle when we try to load a backdrop file which doesnt exist or cant be loaded 12.51.20 # so that means colors are badly calibrated in the OF?! 12.51.35 # r31070 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (jdgordon committed) 12.52.35 # I don't know, I don't use the OF and I don't have a player with a wisechip display 12.55.22 # but you mean the current colors calibration in RB is the same as in the OF right? 12.57.23 # There is no calibration in rockbox, just some formulas to calculate the R,G,B currents for the global brightness level 12.57.31 # maybe those need swapping too 12.57.46 Quit Stummi (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.58.41 # I have been working on an LCD test pattern plugin, maybe that can help to determine if there are errors 12.59.06 # you can play with colour values in the colour chooser setting screen 12.59.08 # it's far from done yet 13.01.24 # JdGordon: ah I did not think about that, I'll have a look 13.02.27 # Is there any downside to using 16bit bmps instead of 24bit? For images with small amounts of different colors. 13.05.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.05.31 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54A3AC52.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.06.17 # Poodlemastah: no difference at all 13.06.49 # Just thought it would be a way to shave of a a kb or two of ram usage. 13.08.41 # bertrik: for the YUV-to-RGB conversion you can use the test image which is shown in the test_fps plugin 13.31.37 Join fyrestorm [0] (~nnscript@cpe-24-90-84-81.nyc.res.rr.com) 13.35.06 Quit fyre^OS (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 13.44.34 # Buschel, I was thinking of just using mpegplayer :) 13.45.36 # Thinking about it a bit more: the transfer to the lcd is so slow that it would be a really inefficient to first calculate stuff in RAM, then transfer it to the oled frame buffer. In the time it takes to transfer 1 pixel at 6 MHz SSP, the CPU can do 640 cycles (theoretically) 13.46.32 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 13.48.43 # are the (known) ways to set the SSP to a higher clock? 13.49.42 # yes, but it has to be an even subdivision of the PCLK. And the datasheet of one of the oled controllers in the clip zip says we can't go faster than 100 ns cycle time (= 10 MHz) 13.50.05 # PCLK on the AMSv2 targets is currently 24 MHz 13.50.43 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 13.51.03 # lebellium, what do see as needing calibration on your wisechip display? 13.51.33 # ok, then 8 MHz would be possible. +33% 13.51.51 # on my visionox display, pure blue looks a bit off and the display changes color a bit when lowering the brightness 13.52.16 # Buschel, we can only use even dividers, so no dividing by 3 13.52.42 # I have overseen the "even" 13.53.16 # we can tweak pclk also 13.53.27 # bertrik: in my theme the first levels of the volume bar have to be green. With the wisechip they look yellow or greeny. Is the the same on with your screen? Can you try? 13.53.43 # finman: doesn't this have impact on the battery runtime? 13.56.39 Quit Rob2222 (Quit: Rob2222) 13.56.53 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FFF2FB1.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.22.04 # can I bribe anyone to make a set of cabbie images for a 1024*768 port? 14.22.18 # especially the backdrop images 14.24.04 # r30814 14.24.19 # that was quick 14.24.36 # wodz: do you have ipv6? 14.25.18 # I must admit that the font code wasn't on my mental list of suspects 14.25.31 # you sure thats the break? 14.26.08 # All revisions I tried before that didn't have the issue, and starting from there they all did 14.26.29 # 30000 ok, 30500 ok, 30800 ok, 30808 ok, 30812 ok, 30813 ok, 30814 fail, 30815 fail, 30830 fail, 30861 fail, 30925 fail, 31045 fail 14.26.49 # yay! I didnt break it :) 14.27.11 # But you wanted locking functions, so you're morally responsible ;) 14.27.30 # if we had implicit locks that revision wouldnt exist! 14.28.09 # possibly put a panicf in font_lock if font_id == FONT_UI 14.28.15 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@g231121013.adsl.alicedsl.de) 14.28.15 Quit bluebrother (Changing host) 14.28.15 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 14.28.16 # as a quick check 14.29.23 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-76-160-35.dynamic.chello.pl) 14.29.28 # * gevaerts tells svn to go back to today 14.29.40 # ukleinek: no I don't 14.29.47 # wodz: hello, I'm just writing an email to you :-) 14.30.12 # wodz: I finally came around to dump the flash of my player 14.31.10 # gevaerts: that still makes no sense... I dont see any reason that would break the quickscreen 14.31.17 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.31.24 Quit bluebrother^ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.31.37 # put some splashf()'s in quickscreen.c and see where it crashes 14.31.39 # JdGordon: the question is, does it break the quickscreen, or does it break restoring the previous screen? 14.31.47 # ukleinek: nice - I am slowly making progress with rk27xx nand handling 14.32.58 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g231121013.adsl.alicedsl.de) 14.33.38 # gevaerts: you mean it crashes when you exit the qs? 14.34.12 # JdGordon: yes. I didn't see any other freeze than that 14.34.36 # Although the original reporter apparently did, which confuses me 14.34.55 # yeah, he says it crashes on entry 14.35.02 # curious and curiouser 14.35.29 # either way, i doubt the quickscreen is the actual culprit 14.35.35 # Well, maybe I'm not looking 12400 then, but I'm definitely looking for a serious issue :) 14.36.01 # if I had to bet I'd say this is buflib for sure, and the qs just happens to trigger it (dunno how though!) 14.36.09 # you say it needs playback to relably trigger? 14.36.14 # yes 14.36.14 # bertrik: did you also notice the "buttons locked" and "buttons unlocked" message remains on the screen between the background and text/pic layers while it should quickly disappear ? 14.36.33 # I'm not sure if it needs playback or the playback *screen* though 14.37.03 # playback in the wps on my video doesnt trigger it, is it a CF only thing? 14.37.18 # As far as I know, it's only been seen on the X5 14.37.25 # pixelma couldn't reproduce it on the M5 14.37.52 # wodz: btw, Archos exchanged my bricked player 14.37.54 # does svn with that revision reverted work? 14.38.19 # ukleinek: cool 14.38.32 # I'll find out later. I'm now adding splashf()s 14.39.36 # maybe this is the case for 5250 vs 5249? the difference is in iram size 14.39.54 Join fml [0] (~5dc6bfa7@www.haxx.se) 14.40.00 # * JdGordon tihnks its time to make the quickscree use the theme icons instead of the 7x8 pixel inbuilt ones 14.40.03 # wodz: I didn't try to apply your tools against it though. 14.41.02 # JdGordon: why did you separate the two handle related statements with "retval=false"? I'd put the two lines as near together as possible. 14.41.12 # is there a simple way to make a build without plugins, or to disable plugins in a build? 14.41.47 # fml: feel free to clean it up if you want 14.42.36 # dfkt: you have to hack configure 14.42.45 # JdGordon: I don't have access to the dev env right now, otherwise I'd do it 14.42.58 # dfkt: IIRC you have to hange plugins="yes" to plugins="" 14.43.57 # wodz, thanks a lot, i'll have a look. i want to build a hack-ish simulator for windows with 480x800 resolution (no matter what target), i edited some player's config.h, but it always crashes at building rockblox 14.44.12 # We could even make core_free to accept a _pointer_ to int. core_free would then set it to -1. I understand thought that that form of the API is not nice. 14.44.48 # fml: oh, I misunderstood what you were saying 14.45.26 # IIUC core_free() returns 0, so I could have done handle = core_free(handle), but I tink it is wrong that 0 is not a valid handle so outright refuse to do that out of stubbornness 14.49.39 # JdGordon: I mean I'd think that form of API were ugly because if it were nice, then the "usual" free would work like that, i.e. accept a pointer to the value rather than the value itself. OK. But then I think it's good to make those changes (performing free and setting the pointer/handle to an invlaid value) as near as possible (ideallly, it would be an atomic op). 14.49.51 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~giuseppe@ppp-88-20.26-151.libero.it) 14.52.51 # fml: well c close() returns 0 on success and -1 on failure (which is absurd!) and free() returns void so they arnt very helpful. 14.53.27 # JdGordon: I was wrong. It's not on exit 14.53.41 # I tihnk buflib_free() should return -1, and 0 should be a legal handle, but i've given up on that particular argument 14.53.55 # 0 *should* be an acceptable handle id 14.54.03 # gevaerts: oh? 14.54.46 # fml: passing a pointer in for the handle to alloc/free does make some sense and safegaurds against not setting it correctly also 14.54.48 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 14.54.51 # JdGordon: I understand your point of view (and even would agree) but as of now, I'd just put those two lines together. It looks weird if they are separated with an unrelated statement. 14.55.26 # JdGordon: yes. The revisions don't change though 14.55.44 # JdGordon: passing a pointer in would make working with constants (literals) impossible 14.55.53 # I guess I didn't try changing a setting every time, so I didn't notice when exactly it froze 14.56.10 # fml: that's a problem? 14.56.23 # anything which expects a specific id is just plain wrong 14.57.20 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r31071): slightly reaarange code to make fml happy :) 14.58.37 # Yes, we don't use literals as args so that wouldn't really be a restriction for us. kugel, others: any thoughts? Use a pointer to the handle in core_free. core_free would set it to an invalid val. 14.58.54 # r31071 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (jdgordon committed) 14.59.36 # can someone commit r31070 to the 3.10 release branch please? 15.00.15 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 15.00.21 # fml: core_alloc also or it is just wierd 15.03.21 # also, I tend to think it should stay close the open/creat/close api behaviour (hence my beef with 0 being illegal) 15.03.22 # hm 15.04.44 # JdGordon: it freezes in "left_width = display->getstringsize(s, NULL, NULL);" for the remote 15.05.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.05.19 # thering adds something possibly debuggable! 15.05.40 Join esalazioneHg [0] (~nay@net-93-71-95-226.cust.dsl.vodafone.it) 15.06.25 # bugger, h300-sim doesnt trigger it 15.08.16 # hi. i'm using an ipod nano 2G and rockbox >3.7.1 doesen't work 15.08.49 # i've gone to #freemyipod-support to try to solve a problem that seems to be deeper than rockbox-related. 15.09.16 # then, after a lot of work, i restored mi iPod with iTunes, now i have firmware 1.1.3 15.09.16 # esalazioneHg: you need to talk to [7] 15.10.03 # if i install the rockbox bootloader with the utility it says " bootloader already existent, overwrite?", then i put rockbox. 15.10.11 # doing it manually it gives no error. 15.10.20 # the problem is: if the battery goes completely down, a "restore your ipod with itunes"-screen appears. 15.10.27 # no problem if the battery goes down with the original firmware. 15.10.27 # JdGordon: any hints on how to debug this further? 15.11.13 # gevaerts: not with jtag or getting it to crash in gdb 15.11.18 # [JdGordon] he helped me in the #freemyipod-support channel. now the problem seems to be rockbox-related, so i switched here, as he said 15.11.49 # what do i have to change in the source to make the window of an uisimulator larger? (i managed to build a 480x800 simulator, but the window is non-resizeable) 15.12.15 # dfkt: configure it to any size you want? 15.12.22 # JdGordon, where? 15.12.29 # dfkt: larger in what sense? Higher resolution or scaled up? 15.12.42 # gevaerts: splash what s is, and possibly display, it makes no sense to crash there 15.13.24 # gevaerts, i hacked the d2 source to build with 480x800 instead of normal 320x240 - it builds fine and the simulator seems to display the higher resolution - but the window is too small and cuts off the screen 15.13.30 # JdGordon, where do i change it? 15.14.02 # dfkt: configure for a sdl app (target 200) 15.14.18 # JdGordon, i'm building it for windows... on linux i use sdl, of course 15.14.30 # afaik, there's no way to get the sdl app running on windows 15.14.42 # then not sure what you can do 15.14.50 # uisimulator --nobackground ? 15.15.09 # i looked around the uisimulator folder, but didn't find where the constraints for the windows are 15.16.41 # make --nobackground? 15.20.08 # no, the uisimulator executable 15.20.44 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@87.114.72.67) 15.23.28 # woohoo! it works, 480x800 uisim for windows - thank you, JdGordon and gevaerts :) 15.24.50 Quit fml (Quit: CGI:IRC) 15.26.29 # JdGordon: it crashes with string "shuffle" for display font 8, so probably not UI_FONT I guess 15.28.01 # Still testing with r30814 by the way 15.28.14 # FONT_UI == 8 15.28.33 # oh 15.28.43 # so that sounds like the remote font isnt being initialised correctly 15.28.55 # Good, a clue! 15.31.49 # quickscreen_fix_viewports() seems to be using uninitialised viewports! 15.31.53 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 15.32.05 # oh woops, no it isnt 15.32.28 # JdGordon: Isn't it possible to use conditional album arts in the WPS? I try to make the album art bigger when hold switch is on 15.32.46 # of course it is 15.32.55 # check CustomWPS 15.33.01 # %?C i think 15.33.06 # Cl maybe 15.34.43 # Doesn't work 15.35.04 # or maybe I can add a label to Cl? 15.35.13 # that's not written in the CustomWPS 15.35.54 # %?C is what you want 15.36.13 # all the cabbie skins use it 15.36.18 # I don't think you can change album art size conditionally 15.36.59 # for the moment my non-working code is 15.37.01 # %?mh<%?C<%Vd(d)|%Vd(b)>|%?C<%Vd(a)|%Vd(b)>> 15.37.03 # # Album art 15.37.05 # %Vl(a,1,9,50,50,-) 15.37.06 # l(0,0,50,50) 15.37.08 # d 15.37.10 # # 15.37.11 # # Album art Hold 15.37.13 # %Vl(d,1,9,80,80,-) 15.37.14 # l(0,0,80,80) 15.37.16 # Please don't do that! 15.37.16 # d 15.37.17 # pastebine 15.37.24 # Use a pastebin for pasting code 15.39.30 # http://pastebin.com/b4nCDat8 15.39.53 # that doesn't work 15.40.22 # it only takes into account the latest Cl tag, l(0,0,80,80) in this case 15.41.34 # May I add a label to the Cl tag ? 15.41.46 # I don't think what you want to do is possible 15.42.19 # that's what I thought but JdGordon said the contrary 15.42.56 # Where? 15.43.26 # just some posts above 15.43.38 # If you mean the "%?C" bit, he misunderstood you. That's about doing things conditionally based on the availability of album arts 15.44.10 # Ok he probably misunderstood 15.44.28 # * gevaerts thinks he knows what's wrong with the x5 15.44.50 # it's not possible to use 2 different AA sizes in the same WPS :( 15.51.23 Join jerdna [0] (~tron@dh207-113-101.xnet.hr) 15.56.04 # was someone working on a smtp37xx ? 15.57.53 # TheLemonMan: what do you mean ? 15.58.36 # i remember someone asked me about the hardware registers for that platform 15.59.09 # yes, I don't remember his name right now, that was for the philips vibe or something like this 16.00.40 # might be interesting to work together, i dont have much time for coding on my own lately 16.01.36 # I'm not sure if it was Zoiah 16.01.58 # New commit by 03gevaerts (r31072): Free a handle when we try to load a backdrop file which doesnt exist or cant be loaded (backport of r31070) 16.03.51 # i always wanted to start writing the board support code for rockbox but i dont know where to start 16.04.14 # and, more important, if it could be merged with the imx board 16.05.26 # I guess most of it could, the register even have the same names in many place so only the adress differs and the global logic is same 16.08.36 # i also have a driver for yet-another-synaptics-protocol 16.09.58 # which protocol ? 16.12.05 # its called onetouch 16.13.22 # is there a doc for it ? 16.14.09 # not that i know, i reversed it from the bootloader 16.16.01 # strange, because the RMI doc mention OneTouch product 16.20.41 # hmm 16.20.45 # oh i see, it uses a silghtly different protocol, mainly different register numbers and it needs an initial configuration to be uploaded at boot 16.21.11 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SoundCodecNSF maybe we should rewrite thi page as it's outdated as hell 16.21.18 # ? 16.23.14 Quit Farthen (Read error: Operation timed out) 16.23.25 Join ilf [0] (~ilf@unaffiliated/ilf) 16.23.49 # i need to buy a new portable audio player and i want rockbox on it 16.23.59 # what's the cheapest device available? 16.24.38 Join slooopy [0] (~sloo@188-193-85-139-dynip.superkabel.de) 16.24.46 # many listed devices seem to be not available in stores any more 16.24.54 # New commit by 03gevaerts (r31073): glyph_cache_save should be static 16.26.22 # ilf: probably the clip+ 16.26.50 Join Farthen [0] (~Farthen@2a01:4f8:101:2a4:0:bc28:b2e1:9) 16.27.22 # r31073 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (gevaerts committed) 16.28.17 # New commit by 03gevaerts (r31074): Actually make glyph_cache_save static instead of just claiming it should be 16.29.44 # gevaerts: thanks, looking good. any experience? 16.29.58 # I don't have a clip+ 16.30.24 # r31074 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (gevaerts committed) 16.31.10 # funman found a real cheap sansa clip zip on amazon 16.31.25 Quit perrikwp (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 16.32.08 # bertrik: still unstable :( 16.36.04 # New commit by 03gevaerts (r31075): Guard font functions against invalid font ids. These arguably should never be passed, but this prevents freezes. Fixes FS#12400 16.38.04 # r31075 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (gevaerts committed) 16.39.34 # New commit by 03gevaerts (r31076): Backport r31075 to avoid freezes on invalid font ids 16.40.15 Join metaphys [0] (~jean-loui@d86-32-96-55.cust.tele2.at) 16.44.48 # New commit by 03gevaerts (r31077): Bump versions for 3.10RC 16.45.37 # I think I'll try to get some 3.10 RC builds out today 16.46.13 # and what would the the recommended device to buy currently? 16.47.13 # an android phone for rockbox ;) 16.47.45 # * gevaerts isn't sure if rockbox on android is end-user ready yet 16.47.58 # true 16.48.14 # ilf: there are so many different possible requirements that that's *really* hard to answer in general 16.49.08 # gevaerts: small, long battery. i'd say resume on power on and linux compatible without extra software, but that's rockbox all right :) 16.50.48 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@149.254.60.160) 16.51.36 # ilf: the clip+ sounds reasonable then, battery time seems to be around 15 to 16 hours on it 16.52.13 # you might be able to find a fuze (not a fuze+) still, and it should give you a bit over 20 hours 16.52.43 # only the fuzev2. The fuzev1 is half of that IIRC 16.52.49 # right 16.53.01 # And it's bigger than a clip+ :) 16.53.12 # i think the v1 has been gone for about 3 years, so chances are good to find a v2 :) 16.53.27 # heh, i still consider the fuze rather small 16.53.32 # * dfkt glares at his x5l 16.53.48 # i currently have an ipod shuffle. that's small :) 16.54.27 # i do have an android smartphone too. but i want an extra audio player for size, price and battery reasons 16.54.37 # (just a note to the discussion about making rockbox an app) 17.00.14 Quit liar (Read error: Connection timed out) 17.02.28 # bertrik: noob question: why are the plugins not yet included in the SVN? 17.03.16 # It's a bit of a all-or-nothing situation, plugins works except for 7 or 8 of them 17.04.04 # ah ok 17.04.24 # so you wait for all to be working before including them in the SVN right? 17.04.32 # yes 17.05.06 # and regarding rockboy? 17.05.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.13.53 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: Ex-Chat) 17.14.01 Quit user890104 (Quit: .) 17.14.27 # hello can I map some key to anything else than action present in action.h? Is there for example any chance I could have a keys starting database? or deleting an item in playlist? 17.15.55 # hm, VERSION handling is broken when using bins.pl :\ 17.16.15 # grep -R "DATABASE" apps/keymaps don't give any result... 17.16.30 Join user890104 [0] (~Venci@2001:470:1f0b:71a::) 17.27.22 # New commit by 03fredwbauer (r31078): remove stray debugging line 17.29.23 # r31078 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (fredwbauer committed) 17.34.54 # Any language experts around? Is there an easy way to check which strings need backporting? 17.37.19 Quit user890104 (Quit: .) 17.37.30 Join user890104 [0] (~Venci@Addicted.to.Minecraft.ipv6.6bez10.info) 17.40.30 Quit jerdna (Quit: Leaving) 17.54.38 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 17.55.56 # bluebrother: do I remember right that rbutil doesn't really have support for RC builds now? 18.01.56 # <[7]> esalazioneHg: so it does only say "restore using itunes" if the battery goes completely dead, not just if you power it off normally from within rockbox? 18.02.40 # <[7]> this sounds like it might not have enough time to bring the FTL into a safe state before it runs out of power... 18.03.01 # <[7]> or possibly the flash chip not properly writing data when the voltage is too low 18.03.34 Join btby [0] (~user@unaffiliated/btby) 18.06.24 # Hi, I'm running Rockbox 3.9.1 on Sansa Clip+ and cannot mount / detect it on a desktop computer. When booted into original firmware, however, the player becomes mountable. What can be the cause of this? 18.07.01 # usb connection is not yet supported in rockbox 18.08.34 # btby, more here: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMS#AMSv2_issues_40Fuzev2_44_Clipv2_44_Clip_43_41: 18.08.46 # Oh, alright. Sorry, deeper searching would've yielded this. 18.09.03 # I guess it's not a problem to switch firmware for file updating. 18.09.09 # no, it works fine 18.09.55 # I run Linux exclusively, is there any way to apply that patch? 18.10.15 # ".. A patch has been made to correct this problem, but although it seems to work fine with the Linux..." 18.10.46 # judging by the comments on the tracker, it might still be hit or miss 18.11.03 # if the annoying databas refresh of the original firmware bothers you, that can be fixed 18.12.00 # Somewhere in the settings? 18.12.44 # no, with an amusing workaround. :) in rockbox, delete the two folders on the clip+ that start with ##, connect the player, and fill it up so there's less than 100mb free storage 18.13.03 # after that, the OF will complain about not enough space and shut down without refreshing 18.13.58 # ha ha, wow! 18.15.02 Join dreamlayers [0] (~bgjenero@rockbox/developer/dreamlayers) 18.21.52 # gevaerts: yes 18.23.53 # dfkt: It doesn't refresh! =) Thank you for your help. 18.24.05 # btby, you're welcome :) 18.24.20 # and you gained ~105mb more space by getting rid of that mtp/drp crap ;) 18.24.24 # *drm 18.24.35 # ha ha, good riddance 18.28.56 # [7]:yes, it works well if i simply turn off rockbox 18.29.58 # [7]: do you remember, my iPod was the one with the strange behavior, the one that almost totally bricks 18.38.18 # <[7]> so it just happens if rockbox does shut down because of an empty battery? 18.38.39 # <[7]> does it also happen if the apple firmware was running when the battery goes empty? 18.40.59 # New commit by 03dreamlayers (r31079): If Rockbox never turns off ATA power, don't compile code for turning it back on. Note that ATA power may still need to be turned on when starting, so ... 18.41.48 # Does Rockbox shut down cleanly because of an empty battery, or does hardware cut off power? 18.42.43 # <[7]> dreamlayers: I suspect it power gets cut off during the attempt to shut down 18.43.01 # r31079 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (dreamlayers committed) 18.43.23 # <[7]> -it 18.43.41 # <[7]> the HW shutoff threshold is rather low, IIRC 2.9 or 3.0V 18.43.58 # [7]: i tested with apple's and it doesn't happen 18.44.36 # With flash based storage, there shouldn't be a large spike in power usage that crosses the shutoff threshold. 18.45.22 # <[7]> my point is that at 3.0V battery voltage the LDO regulator output for the flash will probably be at like 2.7V, which might not allow it to write safely 18.45.45 # dreamlayers: i'm not sure... i think while battery is empty and i try to turn on the ipod, it works (apple's logo) for some secs, then the white screen of death ("restore your ipod with itunes") appears 18.45.50 # <[7]> so what we're observing might be flash corruption caused by a brownout 18.46.33 # <[7]> so this might be as simple as our shutdown threshold being too low 18.46.53 # it never happened before our try (you remember what i'm talking about [7]?) 18.48.01 # now i've just restored the apple's firmware and fully charged the battery. i've not installed the bootloader yet. have i to try something? 18.48.49 # ps: if i plug the ipod while there's the "restore"-screen i can see only /dev/sdc without partition 18.49.19 # <[7]> oh, you were the one with the ipod on which apple's boot loader and disk mode failed to reinitialize the FTL? 18.49.32 # [7] yep 18.50.05 # <[7]> hm, apparently there's something odd going on with your flash chip - not exactly sure what 18.50.53 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@149.254.61.160) 18.55.53 Quit robin0800 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 19.00.40 # The PCF50633UM datasheet says minimum voltage drop for the LDO regulators is 250mV. 19.01.31 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 19.05.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.06.36 # TH58NVG5D4CTG20 flash Vcc = 3.3V. 19.08.18 # (PCF50633UM datasheet: http://people.openmoko.org/tony_tu/GTA02/datasheet/PMU/PCF50633UM_6.pdf , flash specs: http://www.elnec.com/device/Toshiba/TH58NVG5D4CTG20+%5BTSOP48%5D/ ) 19.29.35 Quit dreamlayers (Quit: Bye) 19.53.20 Join david_ [0] (~david@c-69-242-30-52.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 19.54.18 Join perrikwp [0] (~quassel@cpe-071-076-184-171.triad.res.rr.com) 19.54.40 Quit david_ (Client Quit) 20.02.19 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~giuseppe@ppp-88-20.26-151.libero.it) 20.04.05 Quit Buschel (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 20.22.03 Join saratoga [0] (9803ec71@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.236.113) 20.23.04 # IMO we should never let a battery get down to 3.0v anyway, low voltage shutoff should happen around 3.3-3.5v to be safe 20.28.29 # is there a way to simulate disc access in the simulator, to activate the virtual LED? 20.29.04 # dfkt: i thought it was automatic 20.29.11 # (already done) 20.29.42 # i know i saw it in older simulator builds light up sporadically, but didn't see it in new builds 20.29.49 # uisimulator/common/stubs.c have storage_spin 20.30.21 # i assume that doesn't care if it's HDD or flash memory? 20.34.10 Join StephenCarroll__ [0] (~4f619b52@www.haxx.se) 20.34.52 # gevaerts, regarding the rcs of 3.10 can you check your X5 for the following bug http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12411 20.35.01 # or anyone else with an X5 for that matter 20.35.58 # gotta go brb 20.46.37 Join hilbert [0] (~hilbert@adsl-89-217-35-153.adslplus.ch) 20.48.41 # gah 20.49.04 # USB stack overflow on x5 when trying to make a screenshot with the 3.10 branch :\ 20.51.00 # * gevaerts knew that releasing right away was a bad idea... 20.53.17 # fr[7]: so..is there something i have to test/do? 20.53.21 Part ilf 20.53.37 # [7]: so..is there something i have to test/do? 20.53.50 # kugel: could FS#12411 be related to your alpha channel work? 20.53.51 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12411 3Album art not displaying correctly on iAudio x5, verk dark (bugs, unconfirmed) 20.55.03 # the FAQ link on our front page is rather out of date and probably not all that useful to new users 20.55.31 # would anyone mind if I removed it and then simply had port pages to link to the FAQ entries for that target (assuming they exist)? 20.56.23 # also "docs index" is probably less useful as a starting point 20.56.33 # maybe I should post something to FS and see what people think 20.57.38 Quit StephenCarroll__ (Quit: CGI:IRC) 20.58.17 Quit esalazioneHg (Quit: Leaving.) 21.05.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.06.52 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: Bye ;)) 21.13.23 Nick kugel is now known as kugelp (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 21.14.05 # gevaerts: I Di 21.15.05 # I didn't change album art displaying. it doesn't use (and doesn't read) alpha information 21.16.01 # it doesn't work on jpeg anyways 21.16.57 # ah 21.17.07 # could be 21.17.32 # who knows the keymaps really well ? metaphys had a question regarding the WPS apparently 21.17.45 # the resizer has cf specific code 21.18.15 # yes I do! 21.21.34 Join dreamlayers [0] (~bgjenero@bas4-windsor12-1242457186.dsl.bell.ca) 21.21.34 Quit dreamlayers (Changing host) 21.21.34 Join dreamlayers [0] (~bgjenero@rockbox/developer/dreamlayers) 21.26.50 Quit y4n (Quit: The world around me drops away, replaced by worlds being created and destroyed by my imagination.) 21.31.38 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54A3B7E3.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.34.49 Quit btby (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 21.35.27 Join esalazioneHg [0] (~nay@net-93-71-95-226.cust.dsl.vodafone.it) 21.39.30 Quit Buschel (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 8.0/20111104165243]) 21.40.08 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 21.55.27 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 21.58.19 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@vit94-1-82-67-248-70.fbx.proxad.net) 21.58.20 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 21.58.20 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 22.05.35 Quit liar (Read error: Connection timed out) 22.10.21 Quit scanf (Quit: now) 22.27.16 Quit Thra11 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 22.39.06 Join webguest670 [0] (~5109d0a9@www.haxx.se) 22.39.12 # I have a problem with my h140. Two weeks ago, worked fine, but in the middle of a track the screen turns off with an error on "I00: at..." 22.39.37 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@91.125.147.104) 22.40.10 # Since then I can't make it work. When i press the power on button, the screen turns on but does not show any message 22.40.44 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: Ex-Chat) 22.41.29 # Help me please!!! http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?PHPSESSID=qgqan4is0g0nn5bae4tkldugd5&topic=29277.0 22.45.40 Quit dreamlayers (Quit: Leaving) 23.01.29 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 23.05.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.09.07 Quit Horschti (Quit: Verlassend) 23.10.12 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 9.0/20111122192043]) 23.11.09 # webguest670: looks like a hardware problem. It could be the hard drive, but it's hard to say 23.12.28 # gevaerts: not such a huge fan of your fix :/ 23.12.37 # finding the actual cause would be better 23.12.57 # JdGordon: I considered putting it on FS first, but I think we need both the "real" fix and this 23.13.34 # Those functions are (possibly indirectly) accessible from the plugin API, including lua scripts. They should be robust if robustness isn't too expensive I think 23.13.52 # ok 23.13.54 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.55=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 23.14.24 # But yes, FONT_UI shouldn't appear there 23.15.14 Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.15.18 # Feel free to revert, but please leave the fix in the 3.10 branch unless you have another fix :) 23.16.13 Quit Thra11 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 23.16.26 # Sometimes, the screen displays errors: I00: at 40102314 I00: at 40102004 I00: at 400c2004 23.17.17 # Today i'm trying to change the battery,... the HD, and power on, with the remote, and the screen shows: Rockbox boot loader, Version: 6, Batt: 3.64 v 23.17.28 # If i press "record" & "power on" buttons, the screens show: "starting original firmware" but stays froze 23.23.25 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 23.29.36 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@87.112.197.178) 23.36.18 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 23.37.56 Join Scromple [0] (~Simon@115-64-195-104.static.tpgi.com.au) 23.41.07 Quit knittl (*.net *.split) 23.41.08 Quit Llorean (*.net *.split) 23.41.08 Quit Zarggg (*.net *.split) 23.41.08 Quit maraz (*.net *.split) 23.41.08 Quit kkit (*.net *.split) 23.41.08 Quit Utchybann (*.net *.split) 23.41.08 Quit Unhelpful (*.net *.split) 23.41.09 Quit dionoea (*.net *.split) 23.41.09 Quit Staphylo (*.net *.split) 23.41.09 Quit Barahir (*.net *.split) 23.41.09 Quit niekie (*.net *.split) 23.41.09 Quit GeekShadow (*.net *.split) 23.41.09 Quit ruskie (*.net *.split) 23.41.09 Quit nomada (*.net *.split) 23.41.10 Quit rasher (*.net *.split) 23.41.10 Quit [sanyi] (*.net *.split) 23.41.10 Quit eintopf (*.net *.split) 23.41.10 Quit CIA-22 (*.net *.split) 23.41.11 Quit Lalufu (*.net *.split) 23.41.11 Quit bertrik (*.net *.split) 23.41.11 Quit nosa-j (*.net *.split) 23.41.11 Quit Poodlemastah (*.net *.split) 23.41.11 Quit funman (*.net *.split) 23.41.11 Quit polemon (*.net *.split) 23.41.12 Join knittl [0] (~knittl@unaffiliated/knittl) 23.41.12 Join Barahir [0] (~Barahir@fb08schindler24.anorg.chemie.uni-giessen.de) 23.41.16 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 23.41.16 Join kkit [0] (~quassel@li135-248.members.linode.com) 23.41.17 Join dionoea [0] (~dionoea@yop.chewa.net) 23.41.22 Join Poodlemastah [0] (~Poodlemas@h-241-205.a218.priv.bahnhof.se) 23.41.25 Join maraz [0] (maraz@kapsi.fi) 23.41.26 Join Staphylo [0] (~Staphylo@176.9.39.110) 23.41.30 Join [sanyi] [0] (~sanyi@apollo.pcpult.hu) 23.41.31 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-42-199.clt.bellsouth.net) 23.41.35 Quit [sanyi] (Changing host) 23.41.35 Join [sanyi] [0] (~sanyi@unaffiliated/alexanderc) 23.41.36 Join polemon_ [0] (mcp@polemon.org) 23.41.37 Join GeekShadow [0] (~antoine@33.135.197.77.rev.sfr.net) 23.41.37 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@24.229.139.169.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) 23.41.37 Join Lalufu [0] (~sun@ryoko.camperquake.de) 23.41.38 Quit Lalufu (Changing host) 23.41.39 Join Lalufu [0] (~sun@unaffiliated/lalufu) 23.41.39 Join CIA-10 [0] (~CIA@cia.atheme.org) 23.41.44 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 23.41.44 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 23.41.44 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 23.41.44 Join Utchybann [0] (~Utchy@rps6752.ovh.net) 23.41.45 Join Unhelpful [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/Unhelpful) 23.41.51 Join eintopf [0] (~eintopf@83.151.30.44) 23.42.04 Join rasher [0] (~rasher@rockbox/developer/rasher) 23.42.09 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@99-68-45-56.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 23.42.18 Join nomada [0] (~nomada@irc.consciente.de) 23.42.22 Join niekie [0] (quasselcor@CAcert/Assurer/niekie) 23.43.47 # Where are action for keymaps defined? I would like to implement a new one (ACTION_WPS_ID3DB (database) 23.43.58 # ?? 23.44.34 Join aquarius [0] (~aquarius@d038006.adsl.hansenet.de) 23.44.39 # hello 23.44.51 # hello 23.45.42 # do you know i its possible to install rockbox on this player (archos key)? https://store.archos.com/images/Key_usb_web.gif 23.46.22 # it is not. 23.46.29 Quit Llorean (Changing host) 23.46.29 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@rockbox/user/Llorean) 23.46.32 # Rockbox runs on the players listed on the front page. Period. 23.46.34 # oh ok :( 23.47.01 # the software on that one sucks. you must stop the current music to get to the folders... 23.48.07 # well, then you need to stop playback to browser folders. 23.48.32 # jo :/ 23.48.56 # thanks 23.49.27 Quit webguest670 (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 23.50.27 Quit aquarius (Quit: Leaving) 23.53.19 Join ruskie [0] (ruskie@sourcemage/mage/ruskie) 23.56.43 Join saratoga_ [0] (9803c31c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.195.28) 23.56.44 # nobody know anything about action? 23.57.09 # those to link with keys in keymaps? 23.57.45 # I can't find where they get defined! 23.58.39 # kugelp: ok, I'll do some more bisecting then next week