--- Log for 29.11.111 Server: pratchett.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 15 days and 7 hours ago 00.02.27 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 00.06.55 Join billium [0] (~6d9ed60b@www.haxx.se) 00.08.01 Quit billium (Client Quit) 00.08.37 Join perrikwp_ [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 00.11.40 Quit perrikwp (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 00.19.10 Quit Strife89 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.20.18 Quit jlbiasini (Remote host closed the connection) 00.24.47 Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.30.42 Nick perrikwp_ is now known as perrikwp (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 00.30.54 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 00.36.02 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 00.43.03 Join amphetamine [0] (~speed@unaffiliated/amphetamine) 00.43.22 # hi 00.43.30 # any sansa clip zip usters? 00.44.30 # where do I get the bootloader for it. 00.49.33 Nick amphetamine is now known as dex (~speed@unaffiliated/amphetamine) 00.50.34 Nick dex is now known as AdrianG (~speed@unaffiliated/amphetamine) 00.50.55 Quit Thra11 (Remote host closed the connection) 00.55.07 # AdrianG: check the link to the install directions on the rockbox.org web page 00.55.28 # there is no manual for clip zip 00.55.38 # yet. and no precompiled bootloader afaik 00.57.42 # not the manual, the actual clip zip link on the front page 01.01.53 Join dreamlayers [0] (~bgjenero@rockbox/developer/dreamlayers) 01.02.53 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 01.03.09 # hm 01.05.27 # forums say i have to use dfkt's bootloaders.hm. 01.05.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.08.23 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 9.0/20111122192043]) 01.08.34 # ahh sorry i thought he put a link to it in the wiki, but i guess not 01.11.16 # oh well 01.15.37 Join ender| [0] (~ender1@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 01.19.25 Quit Torne (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 01.20.11 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.20.30 Quit Topy44 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 01.23.06 # if the zip is stable enough that we recommend an unofficial bootloader we should just tag an official one 01.23.45 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@f049204114.adsl.alicedsl.de) 01.24.03 Quit liar (Read error: Connection timed out) 01.24.10 Quit hilbert (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 01.24.57 Join hilbert [0] (~hilbert@adsl-89-217-35-153.adslplus.ch) 01.33.06 Join ender| [0] (~ender1@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 01.34.52 Quit Keripo (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 01.37.30 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 01.39.59 # indeed 01.40.12 # i'll receive a clip zip in a few days btw 01.42.29 # New commit by 03dreamlayers (r31088): FS#12412 : Delete old buffer allocation code which has been replaced by core_alloc, and move buffer setup code to core_alloc.c 01.44.24 # r31088 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (dreamlayers committed) 01.50.11 Join ender| [0] (~ender1@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 01.52.28 Quit ReimuHak_ (Quit: Leaving...) 01.55.18 Quit Topy44 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.56.02 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@f049204114.adsl.alicedsl.de) 01.56.11 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.59.53 # Why does svn always hang for me after "Transmitting file data"? It's not a big deal because the commit succeeds and I can "kill -9 svn" and fix resulting local issues with "svn cleanup". 02.00.01 Quit thegeek (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.00.10 Join thegeek [0] (~thegeek@160.39.34.95.customer.cdi.no) 02.00.34 # I'm now in Linux, but the same thing happened in Cygwin once. I guess it's not happening for others because others don't talk about it. 02.01.52 # I just examined it using strace and /proc, and it's hanging on a read from giant.haxx.se:svn. 02.02.11 Quit Topy44 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.02.49 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@f049204114.adsl.alicedsl.de) 02.03.11 # dreamlayers: its a server side script that locks up apparently 02.03.19 # just leave it and it will eventually exit 02.04.12 # How long does it take for you usually? 02.04.45 # a minute or two? 02.05.06 # i just hit ctrl^c and rockbox servers never caught fire 02.05.40 # I've waited longer than a few minutes, and it didn't quit. 02.07.41 # Yeah, I've never seen any server-side problems from this. I just had 2 pointless conflicts locally "local delete, incoming delete upon update" (where's the conflict there?), but that was easy to fix with revert. 02.07.54 # funman: r u using any sansa devices atm 02.08.17 Quit dv_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.08.35 # AdrianG: why? 02.08.39 Join ender| [0] (~ender1@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 02.08.55 # funman: is there any chance rockbox will ever have functional windows USB support on sansas? 02.09.11 # it works fine on sansa e200 02.11.41 # zip has some type of usb issues 02.12.50 # USB support: Clip+/Clipv2/Fuzev2/ClipZip: USB support is currently disabled because it fails randomly with current svn code. 02.13.40 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 02.22.12 Quit hilbert (Quit: Textual IRC Client: http://www.textualapp.com/) 02.24.15 Join ReimuHak_ [0] (~reimu@wireless.sit-co.net) 02.26.15 Join ender| [0] (~ender1@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 02.26.17 Quit Rob2222 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.26.23 # :< 02.26.32 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FFF0387.dip.t-dialin.net) 02.27.45 Quit thegeek (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.27.48 Join thegeek [0] (~thegeek@160.39.34.95.customer.cdi.no) 02.29.52 Join saratoga_ [0] (9803c31c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.195.28) 02.31.14 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 02.39.58 Join Torne [0] (~torne@rockbox/developer/Torne) 02.44.14 Join ender| [0] (~ender1@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 02.57.23 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03.06.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.20.37 Quit dreamlayers (Quit: Bye) 03.38.06 Quit slooopy (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 03.38.27 Join slooopy [0] (~sloo@188-193-85-139-dynip.superkabel.de) 03.45.42 Quit Topy44 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03.46.32 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@f049204114.adsl.alicedsl.de) 03.57.30 Quit chkktri (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 04.05.03 Quit bluefoxx (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 04.05.53 Join bluefoxx_ [0] (fuzzylomba@S0106e0cb4e0a6d8a.vs.shawcable.net) 04.11.22 Join chkktri [0] (chikakitaa@78.139.196.175) 04.11.22 Quit chkktri (Changing host) 04.11.22 Join chkktri [0] (chikakitaa@unaffiliated/chkktri) 04.25.57 Quit TheSeven (Disconnected by services) 04.26.09 Join [7] [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.46.17 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.46.17 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.46.18 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.46.19 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.46.21 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.46.39 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 05.06.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.34.45 Quit sinthetek (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.35.26 Join sinthetek [0] (~sinthetek@cpe-174-111-026-094.triad.res.rr.com) 05.35.35 Quit sinthetek (Changing host) 05.35.35 Join sinthetek [0] (~sinthetek@unaffiliated/sinthetek) 05.36.44 Nick tchan1 is now known as tchan (~tchan@c-69-243-144-187.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 05.36.50 Quit tchan (Changing host) 05.36.50 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 05.39.11 Join dreamlayers [0] (~bgjenero@rockbox/developer/dreamlayers) 05.53.23 Join Rob2223 [0] (~Miranda@pD9FAC2D9.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.56.45 # New commit by 03dreamlayers (r31089): FS#12414 : Fix directory functions in plugins on targets which HAVE_DIRCACHE. In rockbox_api, PREFIX( ) is removed around directory functions because ... 05.57.04 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 06.00.01 # r31089 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (dreamlayers committed) 06.00.12 Join Bawitdaba [0] (~Sphinx@cpe-184-153-55-166.nycap.res.rr.com) 06.25.56 Quit AdrianG () 06.49.35 Quit saratoga_ (Quit: Page closed) 07.06.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.51.33 Join dartmouth [0] (~4a2c271c@www.haxx.se) 08.04.37 Quit dreamlayers (Quit: Goodnight) 08.07.20 Quit Sundiver (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 08.14.33 Quit Zarggg (Quit: Rebooting client...) 08.22.20 Quit Scromple (Quit: Leaving) 08.25.02 Join Sundiver [0] (~angel@174-124-9-49.dyn.centurytel.net) 08.27.22 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@24.229.139.169.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) 08.37.01 Join GodEater_ [0] (93722cd1@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 08.43.25 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 08.43.25 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 08.43.25 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 08.45.38 Join nick-p [0] (~nick@82-69-105-120.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) 08.46.20 # I was thinking of attempting adding support for embedded cuesheets. 08.46.27 # Any opinions on the best way of implementing this? I thought I might use embedded album art as an example... 08.58.40 Join dv_ [0] (~quassel@chello080108009040.14.11.vie.surfer.at) 09.02.07 Join ender` [0] (~ender@foo.eternallybored.org) 09.06.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.11.11 Join ender| [0] (~ender1@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42) 09.22.07 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-76-160-35.dynamic.chello.pl) 09.23.57 # Any powermgmt expert around? Why some targets use 32 BATT_AVE_SAMPLES and others 128? 09.27.49 # jhMikeS:^ 09.28.53 # amiconn maybe? 09.29.38 # jhMikeS will be asleep now 09.29.57 # (assuming a fairly normal day/night cycle for him anyway) :) 09.30.57 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.31.28 # but he reads logs 09.33.26 # yes he does :) 09.34.54 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 09.46.05 Quit funman (Quit: leaving) 09.49.05 # ok, my problem seems to be dying battery + much more conservative batt checking in rockbox. 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And I already know the X-Fi2 uses the imx233 and apparently the Zen Style M100 uses either stmp3770 or X-Fi2 ! 11.47.21 # *there is a 11.54.08 # anyone knows good hex viewer for linux where I can predefine data structures? 11.59.03 Join efyx [0] (~efyx@lap34-1-82-225-185-146.fbx.proxad.net) 12.08.36 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 12.19.02 # New commit by 03desowin (r31090): Sansa Connect: Add keymap for YesNo dialog and keyboard 12.20.48 # r31090 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (desowin committed) 12.33.49 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 12.38.21 # wodz: if you find one, please tell me ! 12.40.50 # every once in a while I consider writing a full blown software that would do that and a much more, so you could script the data format, but it takes time so I don't do it :) 12.43.39 # pamaury: I am afraid that I think the same 12.44.03 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 12.46.19 # \o/ 12.46.28 Nick soap is now known as soap_ (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 12.46.38 # wodz: did you find something ? 12.46.42 # I know what is written in nand's spare area :-) 12.47.18 # you're investigating the FTL ? 12.47.19 # if you have enough motivation, perhaps we can write something, either by modifying an existing software or writing a new one 12.47.45 # pamaury: I am rather poor in writing gui apps 12.48.07 # me too :) But am hex editor can't be that difficult 12.48.15 # *an 12.48.28 # wxHexEditor looks promising but lacks data structs obviously 12.48.49 # at least I can view 4GB+ file in it 12.52.22 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 12.53.24 # wodz: radare includes a hex editor, but I don't know it's capabilities. 12.53.51 # the website advertises: "data analysis of byte blocks " 12.54.44 # but it's a command line tool ? 12.55.05 # pamaury: don't know, http://radare.org/ 12.55.56 # apparently yes 12.57.36 # radare is on my list of software to evaluate, I guess it's better than bare objdump to disassemble. 12.58.21 # ida pro is a good tool to do that :) 12.58.43 # ida pro is either expensive or illegal, isn't it? 13.00.17 # there is an old free version of it 13.01.19 # yeah; the free demo version is perfectly fine for looking into data structures 13.01.27 # i don't know that i would call it a "good tool" though 13.01.35 # it's unnecessarily complicated and difficult to use 13.02.20 Quit nick-p (Quit: Leaving) 13.02.55 # if you are reverse engineering a big chunk of code, you just can't do it with objdump 13.06.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.07.12 # pamaury: but the free version doesn't support ARM 13.07.54 # right 13.08.56 # a developer wrote scripts to make objdump output better, i don't remember where they are 13.10.38 # the initial problem was not disassembling though 13.10.39 # there is dissy (objdump frontend) 13.20.46 # * Torne has yet to find a disassembler that's noticably better than objdump at anything that's free 13.21.24 # dissy doesn't appear to do anything objdump doesn't, it's just a GUI 13.26.11 # unfortunately there is not free alternative here it seems 13.26.14 # *no 13.31.06 # let's write one ! :) 13.37.54 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@giant.haxx.se) 13.42.42 Quit ReimuHak_ (Quit: Leaving...) 13.43.06 # hello 13.43.35 # could somebody helps me with building the simulator? 13.44.07 # Since I had the #define for bookmark 13.44.10 # pamaury: https://github.com/funman/eda-2 13.44.20 # it doesn't build anymors! 13.44.45 # Pamaury I 've made a lot of progress on the touchpad 13.44.46 # funman: is it working ? 13.45.27 # we have now fully map for everything and consistent with other device! 13.45.39 # funman: what does it do ? 13.45.48 # also! I'm metaphys! 13.45.48 # pamaury: i think HEAD doen't build but it did work 13.45.49 # jlbiasini: great :) 13.46.20 # it disassembles and generate some pretty html, the browser control the disassembler 13.47.05 # I'm moving to improve two_finger button 13.47.22 # it is not very stable IMO 13.48.18 # I also could implement flick gesture but I want first to have hotkey and sensitivity's setting working 13.49.25 # I'm really not convinced that we want to implement gesture recognition, that's not a great way of interaction imo 13.50.02 # funman: how does it compare to objdump ? 13.52.43 # i wouldn't say, haven't used eda in years 13.53.19 # it's meant to be an interactive disassembler, but at that time i prefered using IDA 14.00.49 Quit perrikwp (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 14.02.02 # so here the error I get: 14.02.06 # https://gist.github.com/1404732 14.02.34 # only while compiling simulator... normal build works! 14.04.34 # jlbiasini: using the lastest version of the patch on FS ? 14.05.02 # ?? what patch? 14.05.07 # ah no, probably conditional compilation somezhere 14.05.43 # yes i will have to investigate this 14.05.59 # and do you know how the simulator get mapped, 14.06.04 # ? 14.06.28 # I need to add the bottom touch 14.06.41 # it's in uisimulator 14.07.04 # ah yes right :/ 14.08.30 # it's not really up to date, I basically copied the fuze one 14.09.06 # ok 14.09.11 # I'll fix that 14.10.45 # for the touchpad, I suggest that you don't implement any gesture handling for now, upload the patch on FS, I'll commit it if everything is ok and then I would like to implement and test something with the touchpad; if it's not successfull, then we'll go to something more sophisticated 14.11.34 # ok what is it? 14.12.27 Join teru [0] (~teru@K037107.ppp.dion.ne.jp) 14.13.15 # it's a kind of poor's man gesture recognition if you want, I already told you the idea: divide the up/down and left/right slider in N zones, and generate a key press when switching zones. Not sure it's very clear when described this way but it's simple to implement 14.14.58 # I understand but you will have problem with the fact that some keys activate action from the very early moment there are being touch... 14.15.14 # well let's test it we'll see! 14.15.25 # you'll see :) That 14.15.28 # 's not a problem 14.15.32 # cool 14.15.58 # what do the number in the mapping file of the uisimulator stand for? 14.16.03 Join hilbert [0] (~hilbert@adsl-89-217-35-153.adslplus.ch) 14.16.43 # jlbiasini: iirc, position and circle radius to use the mouse 14.16.44 # all the way down in the table 14.17.16 # wtf is that?? :D 14.17.23 # do I need it to map?? 14.18.11 # I guess so, have the pixels coordinate match the button on the simulator image. 14.18.52 # ok this to basicly map the mouse also 14.19.00 # I thought I did it but apparently not 14.19.13 # and how about my two_finger button? 14.19.29 # I'll try with 0 and see 14.19.37 # regarding the patch 14.20.35 # i want to test some stuff and then i'll will be disactivating the short double finger press because it's way to much sensible 14.21.10 # so we'll basicly have two button for lock 14.21.34 Quit petur (Quit: Leaving) 14.21.49 # (long press but i think it should be longer because it's more complicate to do 14.22.15 # if you have some quick code fore that too it would be great 14.22.45 # for what ? 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I have just flashed rockbox firmware to a fuze v2 and the thing wont start up :( 18.45.27 # annecy: what was the last thing you saw on screen ? 18.45.39 # firmware updating.. 18.45.55 # was the battery full ? 18.46.14 # no , maybe 40% 18.46.17 # you also put the firmware on it, or only the bootloader? 18.46.47 # wait for battery to discharge and charge it agian, perhaps the OF is stuck 18.47.04 # i patched the original firmware using the manual method on ubuntu 10.04 18.47.15 # Have you tried to hard-reset it by holding the power switch for a while? 18.47.31 # the 30 second hold? 18.47.36 # yes 18.47.45 # will try now 18.48.16 # oh dear it seems to be working now all of a sudden :) 18.48.34 # Good :) 18.49.16 # it was unresponive and black screen for maybe 10 minutes: now it's fine. thank you all 18.50.30 # thanks to the family for supporting the fuze in these hard times 18.55.50 Join ReimuHak_ [0] (~reimu@165.139.179.10) 18.56.33 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@rockbox/user/Llorean) 19.01.33 # what does the 64khz setting for recording do on the Clip+? 19.01.38 # does the ADC really go that high? 19.06.16 Join NoPinky [0] (~JJK@drsd-4db3e3bc.pool.mediaWays.net) 19.06.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.09.18 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@91-65-137-216-dynip.superkabel.de) 19.11.22 Quit annecy (Quit: leaving) 19.12.09 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@SEAS297.wlan.seas.upenn.edu) 19.14.23 Quit WalkGood (Quit: ♪ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ ♫) 19.23.37 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54A3948E.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.38.38 # New commit by 03buschel (r31091): Make embedded cover art for APEv2 more flexible. 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This fixes an issue with foobar-tagged files as reported in the forums. 19.46.05 # that commit reminds me - is there a size limitation for embedded album art in mp3 files? some of mine don't seem to show up 19.46.28 # (none of them are progressive) 19.52.31 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 19.54.18 Quit Urne (Remote host closed the connection) 19.54.59 Quit ReimuHak_ (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 20.06.20 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 20.06.21 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 20.06.21 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 20.12.35 # dfkt: I am not 100% sure but I have in mind the whole ID3 tag was limited to 64K 20.13.42 # thanks Buschel, that might explain it 20.16.16 # is there any Rockbox artist interested in doing image for Sansa Connect's sim? 20.19.28 # desowin, you just need a large frontal view of the player? 20.25.51 # artwork would be nice for the theme site though 20.26.03 # i think we need it for the clipzip too 20.26.50 # i assume using sandisk's official press shots would be no copyright issue? 20.27.32 Quit hilbert (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 20.28.24 # * dfkt still has press shots of the connect somewhere 20.34.55 Join hilbert [0] (~hilbert@adsl-84-226-233-252.adslplus.ch) 20.42.18 # kugel: U there? 20.43.12 # yes, we need artwork for the clip zip manual 20.43.21 # I bet kugel doesn't see a "U" around either 20.43.28 Join Keripo1 [0] (~Keripo@SEAS297.wlan.seas.upenn.edu) 20.44.57 # pixelma: I could have just written "ping" but I thought it's kinda boring 20.46.55 Quit Keripo (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 20.47.16 # * thomasjfox just built rockbox 3.10RC0 for the N900 20.48.58 # New commit by 03buschel (r31093): Resync mpc to r476 of svn.musepack.org. Improves error handling after seek. 20.49.18 # I've noticed kugel's list spacer patch made it into 3.10, though no "Shutdown" menu entry for RaaA (at least on maemo) 20.50.53 # r31093 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (buschel committed) 20.51.18 # dfkt: yes, just a large frontal view 20.51.44 Nick ender1 is now known as ender` (~ender@foo.eternallybored.org) 20.51.45 # but artwork for website/manual would be fine as well 20.52.14 # where can i get the rockbox logo in high res? 20.52.35 Quit y4n (Quit: PÆNTS ØLF!) 20.53.36 Quit liar (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.54.14 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 20.57.00 Quit Keripo1 (Quit: Leaving.) 21.01.08 # dfkt: docs/logo/rockbox-logo.svg in svn 21.03.26 # thanks 21.03.46 # playing wma gives significantly (40 minutes) lower runtime than musepack 21.03.51 # on Sansa Connect 21.06.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.09.05 # bertrik, here's the zip in 80px height, for the manual and theme site - http://img.elektrokrishna.com/images/97622469611827901453.png 21.15.29 # desowin, here's the connect - http://img.elektrokrishna.com/images/03502422523247696362.png 21.16.00 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~giuseppe@adsl-ull-43-205.50-151.net24.it) 21.17.08 # saratoga: what do you think about FS#12415 ? 21.17.09 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12415 3Decoding of encrypted ADX files not supported (bugs, unconfirmed) 21.17.21 # dfkt: could you please make bigger image of connect (with screen (visible data) width 230 and height 320) for sim? 21.17.33 # ah right, that was the initial request :) 21.17.35 # err, s/230/240/ 21.18.43 # sim needs bmp, right? 21.20.48 Quit thomasjfox (Remote host closed the connection) 21.21.03 # Buschel: wikipedia made it sound like guessing the key is error prone 21.21.19 # so if we don't have a way that we know will decrypt it i prefer to not try 21.21.26 # that was my impression, too 21.22.14 # we might change the parser to clearly output "encrypted files not supported" 21.22.46 # that would be fine with me 21.23.33 # guessadx has a detailed description of the process 21.23.57 Quit dv_ (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 21.24.08 # dfkt: yes, and please mark the buttons with numbers just like on other targets (uisimulator/bitmaps/UI*.bmp) 21.24.09 # "20 minutes on a Core 2 duo" doesn't sound promising for 200MHz ARM :) 21.24.16 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 21.24.21 Join dv_ [0] (~quassel@chello080108009040.14.11.vie.surfer.at) 21.24.50 # saratoga: just use a core 2 duo emulator on the arm :) 21.25.08 # apparently there is a list of very common precomputed keys, so at most we might want to try a few known keys 21.25.16 # but honestly it sounds like the best solution is for people to use PC tools to decrypt their files first 21.26.38 # We also have "Implementing the ability to playback DRM crippled files" on our NoDo list 21.26.43 # desowin, i don't know which buttons need which number, could you guide me? - a clean one here already: http://temp.elektrokrishna.com/SansaConnect.bmp 21.26.54 # So I think this would need to be discussed first 21.27.41 # dfkt: seriously, I don't know yet either :D 21.27.58 # since this is just a symetric encryption system, its not exactly DRM 21.28.01 # heh, then leave it clean for now... the clip zip sim has no numbers either, and i can handle it just fine ;) 21.28.16 # they have no mechanism for revoking access for instance 21.28.18 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 21.28.33 # dfkt: neither of the three connect's I have has SanDisk logo on front 21.28.42 # saratoga: that's just silly then :) 21.29.06 # i guess the "idea" was to make it harder to reverse engineer games? 21.29.11 # but yeah, its very stupid 21.29.14 # desowin, never trust press photos, then ;) should i remove the sandisk logo? and keep the sansa logo? 21.29.31 # dfkt: yes 21.29.37 # I'd say if it's easy to decrypt on a PC we shouldn't bother 21.29.53 # yeah 21.30.34 # saratoga: the ADX change -> http://pastie.org/2940534 21.31.05 # Buschel: sounds good 21.31.07 # I would like to close the flyspray task as "not supported" 21.33.20 # desowin, download again, same link 21.34.02 # go for it 21.36.12 # New commit by 03buschel (r31094): Rockbox does not support encrypted ADX. Clearly state this in the manual and the debug messages. 21.37.52 # r31094 build result: 2 errors, 0 warnings (buschel committed) 21.38.13 # dfkt: markings on buttons are slightly different, the house symbol is mostly changed - not so nice photo can be found here: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/834/dsci0040b.jpg/ 21.38.59 # dfkt: (the wheel actually lights up blue when running) 21.41.25 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 21.41.47 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 21.41.47 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 21.41.47 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 21.42.01 # (well, technically the LCD can do double the size (the framebuffer size is doubled in hardware by OSD), but psst) 21.46.51 # New commit by 03buschel (r31095): Migrate manual's change within r31094 to v3.10: encrypted ADX is not supported. 22.01.26 Quit Buschel (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 8.0/20111104165243]) 22.02.06 Quit funman (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 22.03.33 Join funman [0] (~fun@rockbox/developer/funman) 22.06.23 # jdgordon: i think i told you the wrong resolution for the fuze+ port, should be 240x320 rather then the opposite 22.06.31 # i blame the wiki for having it listed that way :) 22.21.06 # gevaerts: any idea how Rockbox Utility could support installing RC builds in a useful way, especially if they are not available on rockbox.org? 22.22.43 # one possibility I could think of is by using the daily build information provided by rockbox.org, and add a RC section that also has download links. 22.23.00 # but that would require reworking the complete build installation page :) 22.26.44 Join ReimuHak_ [0] (~reimu@208.119.81.194) 22.36.37 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: Bye ;)) 22.45.02 # bluebrother: I'm sure they can be hosted on rockbox.org. We just don't bother now because it's a bit of extra work that doesn't really buy us much 22.45.19 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.55=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 22.50.48 # meh, dfkt left, i just wanted to say that i'm pretty sure progressive jpegs won't work in rockbox 22.51.03 # either as aa or in the image viewer 22.51.03 # gevaerts: true. The problem is how to get them into Rockbox Utility without having it try random sites ;-) 22.51.46 # n1s: "none of them are progressive". I think he knows :) 22.52.25 # ah i can̈́t read 22.53.29 # bluebrother: yes, I'd say they should just appear as a fourth class of builds, indistinguishable from stable, daily or current from rbutil's point of view 22.53.31 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: Ex-Chat) 22.57.53 Quit Thra11 (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 22.58.52 # hmm. It might make sense to change the options in the installation dialog to a dropdown menu then. That would also allow supporting older releases in case we want that. 22.59.31 # That might be useful just after a release 22.59.44 # for supporting older releases rockbox.org would only need to provide the version information for those. Since we already have such information for the current release it shouldn't be too hard to add it for others 23.00.05 # maybe simply limit it to the last 3 releases for each target? 23.00.33 # This needs thinking :) 23.00.44 # indeed 23.03.35 # * bluebrother feels quite a bit of work coming up but the time for it missing :/ 23.04.29 Quit ReimuHakurei (Disconnected by services) 23.04.29 Nick ReimuHak_ is now known as ReimuHakurei (~reimu@208.119.81.194) 23.04.56 Join Reimu_Hakurei [0] (~znc@reimuhakurei.net) 23.05.26 # hm, weird 23.05.49 # * gevaerts wonders how rbutil decides which mount points exist 23.06.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.06.40 # by querying the system for mounted devices :) 23.06.51 Quit liar (Remote host closed the connection) 23.08.13 # gevaerts: see Utils::mountpoint() in base/utils.cpp 23.08.37 # Ah, I think I see what was going on 23.09.01 # I saw /dev/shm and /media/sd, while nothing was mounted on /media/sd 23.09.28 # It's not unlikely that that was where I mounted whichever device I used last time I used rbutil though 23.09.53 # I think it would be a good idea to make that more strict and allow passing the filesystem types to limit the list to 23.10.21 # So it's apparently all mounted devices (apart from / for some reason ;), plus the one that was used last time 23.10.27 # Rockbox Utility keeps the old mountpoint available in the selection even if it's not present in the system anymore. That's somewhat for debugging 23.10.59 # That makes sense 23.11.04 Quit funman (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 23.11.08 # lynx 23.11.10 # oops 23.11.50 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@87.113.152.134) 23.14.11 Quit factor (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.15.11 Quit chkktri (*.net *.split) 23.17.43 Join chkktri [0] (chikakitaa@unaffiliated/chkktri) 23.18.11 Quit chkktri (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.22.11 Quit ps-auxw (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.22.14 Join factor [0] (~factor@74.197.205.204) 23.23.12 Join ps-auxw [0] (~arneb@2001:470:c807:0:1532:4e5f:2ad3:4123) 23.28.48 Part jlbiasini 23.29.30 Join Scromple [0] (~Simon@115-64-195-104.static.tpgi.com.au) 23.32.11 Part TomColler 23.37.19 Join perrikwp [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 23.43.18 Join jlbiasini [0] (~metaphys@d86-32-96-55.cust.tele2.at) 23.43.22 Join saratoga_ [0] (9803ec71@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.236.113) 23.44.04 # Who is in charge of the themes site? Call me the manager!! :D 23.45.14 # I think there's been some misunderstood: the fuzeplus is meant to be used like portrait not landscape orientation... 23.45.39 Quit saratoga (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 23.45.44 # Anyway thanks for the works! it nice to see the site coming up!! 23.46.45 # should be fixed now 23.47.08 # hm 23.48.14 # It doesn't seem to like changes there 23.48.40 # nop 23.48.47 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 23.49.58 # there's no hurry anyway... The gigabeat s theme are working good 23.50.10 # I'm using them since the first day of the port 23.50.21 # JdGordon said he fixed it yesterday, but it seems like nothing changed 23.50.45 # also the themes it shows aren't the ones I would expect for a 320x240 device so maybe something else is wrong 23.51.50 # oh is jdgordon around? 23.52.11 # I've just finish the rework of the keymaps for the fuzepuls 23.52.58 # and there are stuff that I would like to know about consistency of keymaps 23.53.48 # Well no hurry there too anyway I'll be using the mailling list 23.55.14 Part jlbiasini