--- Log for 06.12.111 Server: barjavel.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 1 day and 9 hours ago 00.03.42 Join Thra11_ [0] (~thrall@87.114.99.200) 00.04.21 Quit Thra11 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 00.06.39 Quit lovasoa (Quit: lovasoa) 00.18.05 Quit TheSeven (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.18.52 Quit dionoea (Changing host) 00.18.52 Join dionoea [0] (~dionoea@videolan/developer/dionoea) 00.33.42 Quit scorche (Disconnected by services) 00.33.45 Join scorche` [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 00.41.06 Nick scorche` is now known as scorche (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 00.47.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.54.40 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 01.00.28 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 9.0/20111130065942]) 01.11.23 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 01.17.55 Join dreamlayers [0] (~bgjenero@bas4-windsor12-1279483632.dsl.bell.ca) 01.17.55 Quit dreamlayers (Changing host) 01.17.55 Join dreamlayers [0] (~bgjenero@rockbox/developer/dreamlayers) 01.24.54 # Can someone add me (BorisGjenero) to WikiUsersGroup? 01.25.09 # sure 01.25.19 # dreamlayers: you say using weakref doesn't work for you? 01.25.24 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 01.26.32 # funman: Yeah just changing weak to weakref in the function definition did not help. 01.26.58 # you're using gcc on windows? 01.27.47 # Yes, I was. I'm in Linux now, but I could reboot to test something if you want. 01.28.02 # you should be allowed to edit the wiki now 01.28.10 # remember which gcc version? 01.28.59 # Thanks, I have wiki editing access now. 01.29.25 Quit Thra11_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.29.58 # It was i686-w64-mingw32-gcc 4.5.3 (405). 01.31.28 # I'm going to try again with i686-pc-mingw32-gcc, back in a bit 01.31.36 Quit dreamlayers (Quit: back in a bit) 01.32.48 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@165.123.49.214) 01.33.33 # can you find gcc 4.6 ? 01.33.37 # gcc-tdm should have it 01.34.06 Join dreamlayers [0] (~dreamlaye@bas4-windsor12-1279483632.dsl.bell.ca) 01.34.06 Quit dreamlayers (Changing host) 01.34.06 Join dreamlayers [0] (~dreamlaye@rockbox/developer/dreamlayers) 01.35.19 # i used gcc-4.6/mingw64 but as a cross compiler on linux 01.38.21 Quit keyb_gr (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 01.39.00 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 01.39.20 # funman: Yeah, same behaviour, with 4.5.2. Maybe 4.6 fixes something. 01.43.07 Join Thra11_ [0] (~thrall@31.185.177.49) 01.43.47 # Any objections to delaying usb_acknowledge(SYS_USB_CONNECTED_ACK); to just before the USB screen main loop? To fix FS#12423, I could just delay it past the font and skin unloading, but just before the main loop seems the safest place for it. 01.43.48 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12423 3Rockbox access to /.rockbox/fonts after usb_enable(true) (bugs, requires) 01.45.58 # I also think that fix ought to be in 3.10, because the bug makes it hard to enter USB mode on the Archos Recorder V2. Should I seek approval from someone before committing to the 3.10 branch? 01.49.44 # For FS#12409, I guess it doesn't need to be in 3.10 because Rockbox probably doesn't, run into the bugs fixed there. 01.49.45 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12409 3problems with buflib_compact() (bugs, closed) 01.58.03 # New commit by 03dreamlayers (r31155): Fix FS#12423 : Rockbox access to /.rockbox/fonts after usb_enable(true). 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There is some bug in sd module dma emulation and I wasn't able to track it down. 08.41.01 # Then I decided to rewrite our sd driver in PIO mode but this also had some flaws so I abandoned the idea 08.41.50 # qemu have quite complicated internal structure and no docs. 08.42.41 # I found out it is much easier to write something for skyeye. 08.43.02 # and for RE speed is not critical 08.47.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.49.48 Join ender` [0] (~ender@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.58.59 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 09.07.58 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 09.07.58 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 09.07.58 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 09.09.52 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.23.23 Join HBK [0] (~hbk@cpe-76-185-175-39.tx.res.rr.com) 09.25.03 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote host closed the connection) 09.27.35 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 09.33.21 Quit kadoban (Remote host closed the connection) 09.34.16 Join kadoban [0] (~kadoban@ip98-165-177-158.ph.ph.cox.net) 09.56.25 Quit petur (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10.01.52 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 10.11.48 Quit kadoban (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 10.24.01 Join dys [0] (~andreas@krlh-5f737b3b.pool.mediaWays.net) 10.34.10 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@sphinx.lix.polytechnique.fr) 10.34.10 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 10.34.10 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 10.47.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.59.44 # * wodz spotted first bug report utilizing backtrace() 10.59.49 # :-) 11.03.01 Quit petur (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11.03.04 Join p3tur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 11.08.13 Join mortalis [0] (~c3133585@www.haxx.se) 11.16.09 Join swilde [0] (~wilde@aktaia.intevation.org) 11.16.34 # mortalis: ping 11.23.55 # wodz:pong 11.24.18 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@giant.haxx.se) 11.30.22 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r31156): Fix touchscreens so entering the WPS with a skin with no touchregions reverts to grid mode (caused by r30991) 11.30.42 # mortalis: I read somewhere that you have been contacted with HiFiman representative. Is it true? 11.31.01 # Torne: with the new git repo, will we have any way of figuring out which git checkin is the equivilant from the old svn revision number? 11.31.08 # i.e that commit above! 11.31.48 Join TomColler [0] (~thomas@net-93-144-166-205.cust.dsl.teletu.it) 11.32.17 # wodz: no 11.33.15 Part ksk 11.33.16 # mortalis: btw. the sdk you have found is of great value - it includes reference C implementation of nand controller BCH correction 11.37.08 # \o/ I have basic simulation module of the rk27xx nand controller working in skyeye 11.37.46 # few tests more and I can start looking at FTL init actually :-) 11.42.32 # r31156 build result: All green 11.47.43 # JdGordon: git log --grep=@NNNNN 11.48.35 # kugel: No, I mean ocne we move to git r30991 is meaningless 11.48.39 # assuming the converted svn commits look like git-svn ones 11.48.59 # JdGordon: I know 11.49.18 # with that line you can look up the commit by rNNNNN in git 11.49.43 # ok 11.49.50 # isnt that what you were asking for? 11.51.06 # just making sure that is doable 11.51.46 # well, hopefully Torne doesnt discard the git-svn-id: line in each commit :) 11.53.57 Join hilbert [0] (~hilbert@adsl-89-217-183-170.adslplus.ch) 11.55.31 # wodz: the final link cmdlien already has -Os 11.58.56 # kugel: does it matter for link? 12.02.05 Quit efyx (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12.08.25 # wodz: not sure 12.09.21 # what is .ARM.extab and .ARM.exidx? and why are they only 100 bytes in the end binary while they look much bigger in objdump/rockbox.map? 12.11.29 Quit TBCOOL (Quit: .) 12.16.34 Join efyx [0] (~efyx@lap34-1-82-225-185-146.fbx.proxad.net) 12.36.47 Quit tchan (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.37.50 Quit mortalis (Quit: CGI:IRC) 12.38.35 Join tchan [0] (~tchan@lunar-linux/developer/tchan) 12.47.27 # kugel: exidx and extab is used for unwinding IIRC 12.47.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 12.49.01 # extab has an entry for each function (8 byte each) 12.49.31 # s/extab/exidx/ 12.50.35 # ukleinek: they look huge in the .map and objdump, but stripping them only gives a mere 100 bytes 12.51.18 # kugel: don't know more details offhand 12.51.43 # how do i programatically shutdown rockbox? 12.52.50 # JdGordon: call power_off()? 12.53.02 # sys_poweroff() apparently :) 12.53.19 # yes 13.01.30 # guess what argument I'm sick off? 13.01.51 # or rather, which I'm about to kill for good! 13.02.06 # (my git svn dcommit was supposed to pop up immediatly after hitting enter then!) 13.02.52 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r31157): Add a shortcut type 'shutdown' which will turn off the player 13.04.47 # r31157 build result: 0 errors, 228 warnings (jdgordon committed) 13.07.48 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r31158): Fix warnings 13.09.12 # r31158 build result: All green 13.09.36 # but the shortcuts menu is still empty by default? 13.10.14 # so put something in it 13.11.34 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 13.18.33 Quit dys (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 13.19.10 Join dys [0] (~andreas@krlh-5f737b3b.pool.mediaWays.net) 13.24.15 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 13.24.56 Quit p3tur (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13.31.52 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 13.33.20 # wodz: did you implement lots of things in skyeye to have it working ? 13.34.03 Quit hilbert (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.) 13.40.07 # pamaury: implementing is easy - fixing existing bugs not :-) 13.40.42 # I mean, did you implement only the nand part ? existing bugs ? 13.40.52 # but current skyeye maintainer is somewhat responsive (in english) 13.41.50 # pamaury: I implemented cache controller, interrupt controller and nand controller, fixed nand simulation to cope with large pages 13.42.03 # for 926ejs you don't have to touch cache 13.43.50 Quit GodEater_ (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 13.44.36 # I made a mistake and hacked 'stable' aka 1.3.2_rc1 which seems to be halfway moved to new framework 13.46.44 # pamaury: speaking about existing bugs - partially they are related to half switch into new framework. 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Besides this the code quality is rather poor - I mean the implementation part 13.47.28 # lots of safechecks missing 13.48.02 # pointers assignment is not consistent through different modules and so on 13.49.17 # but I still think it is easier to hack something in skyeye than in qemu 13.53.14 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FFF2232.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.53.54 Join hilbert [0] (~hilbert@7-111-204-62-static.cable.fcom.ch) 13.56.49 Quit Rob2223 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 14.07.45 Quit perrikwp (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.21.09 Join GodEater_ [0] (93722cd0@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 14.22.46 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 14.32.34 Quit ender` (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.32.47 Join ender` [0] (~ender@foo.eternallybored.org) 14.36.31 Part TomColler 14.40.34 Part LinusN 14.42.23 Join mortalis [0] (~mortalis@77.108.98.177) 14.47.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.50.03 Quit GodEater_ (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 14.51.52 Join NoPinky [0] (~JJK@drsd-4dbdb202.pool.mediaWays.net) 14.55.19 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@87.115.118.9) 14.55.33 Join keyb_gr [0] (~chatzilla@p4FF04E77.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.06.53 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~LemonBoy@ppp-179-54.26-151.libero.it) 15.14.46 Join y4n [0] (y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 15.20.49 Join perrikwp [0] (~quassel@wireless-152-13-54-66.uncg.edu) 15.29.17 Quit Sundiver (*.net *.split) 15.29.18 Quit lxs-makot0 (*.net *.split) 15.31.40 Join Sundiver [0] (~angel@174.124.51.150) 15.31.40 Join lxs-makot0 [0] (~makoto@rbh.res1.nat.lxsys.co.cc) 15.32.22 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.6) 15.34.58 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~LemonBoy@ppp-179-54.26-151.libero.it) 15.39.30 Join GodEater_ [0] (93722cc8@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 15.40.13 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 15.50.58 # does someone have an advice on how to get the cpu usage of the current process programatically, say from top.rock? 15.52.05 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.6) 15.54.12 # I want some cpu stats about rockbox on this yp40 15.54.14 # ypr0* 16.02.12 Join ender| [0] (~ender1@foo.eternallybored.org) 16.02.45 Quit Thra11 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16.11.40 Join WalkGood [0] (~4@unaffiliated/walkgood) 16.12.39 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@87.115.118.9) 16.13.58 # kugel: maybe you can grab something from /proc ? 16.16.34 # kugel: http://www.linuxhowtos.org/System/procstat.htm 16.17.19 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~LemonBoy@ppp-179-54.26-151.libero.it) 16.17.45 Quit petur (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.20.05 # kugel: and this may be helpful: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1420426/calculating-cpu-usage-of-a-process-in-linux 16.20.21 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 16.23.54 Quit WalkGood () 16.26.38 # wodz: the different time units confuse me (timeval, clock_t, jiffies9 16.28.48 # does it really matter? 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I'll tell you in a minute the result ;) 17.51.30 # New commit by 03alle (r31159): Manual: Rephrase what 'shutdown' does so that the sentence reads more smoothly 17.53.09 # r31159 build result: All green 17.54.48 # kugel: very very good! could be a trivial thing, but in pictureflow fps while idleing are now 15-16 instead of 12-13 ;) 17.56.14 # lorenzo92: nice! 17.56.21 # I'm trying to get numbers for cpu usage 17.56.47 # and buffering thread view seem very different, last 3 bars are not full at all! 17.57.17 # also ram is more free... 17.57.25 # 12 before, now 17 17.58.01 # nice 17.58.10 # now 5MB more are entirely unused? :) 17.58.31 # yeah :D 17.59.06 # it seems faster in general .... 18.00.04 # next step is integrating at least battery monitor.... 18.00.13 # because I want to do some benchmarkings 18.00.42 Quit dv_ (Remote host closed the connection) 18.03.23 # New commit by 03dreamlayers (r31160): In 3.10 branch, fix FS#12423 - Rockbox access to /.rockbox/fonts after usb_enable(true) 18.05.25 Quit GermanMushroom (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18.05.39 # dreamlayers: thanks. One less item on my to-do list for tonight :) 18.06.32 # gevaerts: You're welcome! :) 18.07.07 # dreamlayers: have you played more with backtrace()? 18.07.53 Join kadoban [0] (~kadoban@ip98-165-177-158.ph.ph.cox.net) 18.08.17 # wodz: Not really. 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Is there something preventing it from working on the v2? 20.24.21 # ramsize maybe? 20.26.35 Quit mgue (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 20.28.05 Join mgue [0] (~mgue@p5DDA165C.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.29.35 # @wodz: I guess it could be, but don't see why they would reduced the RAM size in the second revision. 20.30.25 # they did 20.30.48 # v2 uses a completely different SoC too 20.31.21 # Bagder: have you seen my entry about emulating in qemu? 20.31.42 # if I don't confuse things now... =) 20.31.46 Join saratoga [0] (9803c31c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.195.28) 20.32.16 # no, I missed that 20.32.19 # * gevaerts confirms Bagder's memory 20.32.29 # c200v1 has 32MB, c200v2 has 2MB 20.32.38 # @Bagder: that's disapointing, guess mo mpegs for me. 20.32.48 # Which really isn't a lot for a colour screen 20.32.53 # Bagder: were you ok with the front page tweaks I posted in FS#12416 20.32.54 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12416 3Minor Front Page tweaks (patches, new) 20.33.06 # if so i'll commit them later today 20.33.30 # I haven't seen them, but I trust your judgement 20.33.43 # just changes teh wide bar links basically 20.33.48 # "side bar" 20.34.21 # ok will commit in a few 20.34.39 Part hilbert ("Textual IRC Client: http://www.textualapp.com/") 20.35.17 Part eyecreate ("Konversation terminated!") 20.46.57 Join saratoga_ [0] (9803ec71@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.236.113) 20.48.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.49.21 # New commit by 03saratoga (r31161): Update front page side bar links to reflect how we've come to organize information on the wiki. The docs index is depreciated in favor of devic ... 20.49.31 # really hope i didn't mess up the html there! 20.52.22 # Bagder: want to update while i'm around to fix any mistakes ;) 20.55.40 # saratoga_: your draft release notes could already go to their final page. We tend to just have a red line near the top stating that the thing isn't released yet 20.55.50 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-175-223.student.uu.se) 20.55.50 Quit n1s (Changing host) 20.55.50 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 20.57.46 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~LemonBoy@ppp-179-54.26-151.libero.it) 20.59.06 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 21.00.43 # gevaerts: ok i wasn't sure what the procedure was so I just put them up on the wiki in incomplete form 21.09.04 Quit y4n (Quit: We're fucking 3LN!) 21.14.13 Quit n1s (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 21.14.46 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-175-223.student.uu.se) 21.14.46 Quit n1s (Changing host) 21.14.46 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 21.19.16 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng180.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 21.27.47 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 21.29.51 Quit keyb_gr (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 21.31.23 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng180.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 21.32.54 Join keyb_gr [0] (~chatzilla@p4FF04E77.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.33.51 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 21.34.35 Quit saratoga (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 21.34.48 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54A3A198.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.35.39 Join lovasoa [0] (~olojkine@78.251.19.44) 21.36.36 # kugel: When I try to compile, I get an error about asoundlib.h not found. Where should it be? 21.43.27 Quit keyb_gr (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 21.45.17 Join keyb_gr [0] (~chatzilla@p4FF04E77.dip.t-dialin.net) 21.46.26 # in search path probably 21.47.05 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.47.10 Quit bluebrother (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 21.48.40 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g224238155.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.48.43 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 21.49.37 # lovasoa: I put it into the toolchain dir 21.50.28 # I tried -I/usr/include, but I get a lot of warnings /usr/include not safe for cross compilation. That seems logical 21.50.52 # kugel: But where did you find it ? 21.51.06 # uh where did you install your toolchain to? 21.51.26 # /usr/include is clearly wrong 21.53.05 # I use Sourcery G++ Lite. I spent one night trying to compile a cross GCC, and then I gave up... 21.53.11 # I put the alsa headers into $TOOLCHAIN_DIR/arm-none-linux-gnueabi/libc/usr/include/alsa/* 21.55.06 # $TOOLCHAIN_DIR/bin is what needs to be in PATH btw 21.56.05 # Will copying "/usr/include/alsa" to "$TOOLCHAIN_DIR/arm-none-linux-gnueabi/libc/usr/include/alsa/" work ? 21.59.59 # kugel: And why do I still get so much "BATTERY_TYPEs_COUNT is undefined"? 22.02.02 # never saw that 22.03.15 # About BATTERY_TYPES_COUNT or copying header files? 22.04.11 # BATTERY_TYPES_COUNT 22.05.35 # What shall I do, then? 22.06.35 # no idea, something is wrong on your end 22.06.39 # did you re-run configure? 22.07.30 # I can re-run configure as I want, that won't create the alsa header file... 22.07.45 Join Zambezi [0] (Zulu@unaffiliated/zambezi) 22.12.39 # lovasoa: what you said will work 22.13.51 # +about copying alsa 22.13.51 # Is there a way to see on which symbols dlopen() fails? 22.14.14 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: Bye ;)) 22.14.18 # wodz: try dlerror() 22.15.19 # kugel: it doesn't return unresolved symbols but some general error 22.16.02 # kugel: But configure create a wrong autoconf.h, as the rockbox dir is set to /.rockbox... 22.16.11 # that's right 22.17.02 # lovasoa: get the latest rom http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38710278/R0.ROM 22.17.10 # that'll make /.rockbox in the root work 22.18.22 # kugel: In that ROM, /.rockbox is a symlinc to /mnt/media0/.rockbox? Or is rockbox really at the root? 22.20.02 # it's not a symlink but bind-mounted 22.20.30 # the real position is indeed still /mnt/media0/.rockbox 22.21.42 # OK. So I'm going to download this ROM... 22.24.36 Quit perrikwp (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 22.25.42 # saratoga_: web site updated 22.26.32 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 22.37.00 Part lovasoa 22.37.21 Join saratoga [0] (9803c31c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.195.28) 22.38.14 # Bagder: did you update it? 22.38.19 # yes 22.38.29 # oh damn it 22.38.32 # i changed it for the wiki 22.38.39 # which file has it for the front page? 22.40.05 Quit kadoban (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 22.48.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.48.12 Join lovasoa [0] (~olojkine@78.251.19.44) 22.50.06 # kugel: I just installed the ROM you gave. The /.rockbox directory seems to be empty 22.50.45 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@SEAS180.wlan.seas.upenn.edu) 22.52.12 Quit Buschel (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 22.53.38 # huh i don't understand why only the wiki updated and not the front page 22.54.42 # lovasoa: you need to unzip rockbox.zip onto the internal memory 22.55.01 # That's what I did 22.57.24 # Rockbox boots, but tells me he has no root dir. When I go to the file browser I can see an empty /.rockbox, and a full /mnt/media0/.rockbox 22.58.19 # move .rockbox to the root of the player then 22.59.30 # I can't access the root of the player. the ROM kugel gave should mount /mnt/media0/.rockbox as /.rockbox 22.59.41 # oph heh wait 23.00.02 # lovasoa: sorry. you also need the new loader: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38710278/rockbox_loader.sh 23.00.52 # Hmm. I see 23.00.56 # mount --bind /mnt/media0/.rockbox /.rockbox 23.01.14 # In fact, I didn't need the new ROM :) 23.01.39 # Hm 23.02.05 # you need, the mount point needs to exist 23.02.07 # In fact, the new ROM creates the .rockbox, so it's needed 23.02.16 # crunch 23.02.54 # The loader runs as root, doesn't it ? 23.05.19 # it should 23.09.06 # Here it is! 23.09.08 # I'm currently listening to my music with rockbox through alsa! :) 23.09.10 # Thank you kugel! 23.09.28 Quit mystica555_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.09.47 # I do too 23.09.53 # so far no playback issues anymore 23.11.08 # what playback issues did you have? 23.11.39 # kugel: But, when I try to open "Playlist Catalogue", I'm told that "/mnt/media0/rockbox" doesn't exist 23.12.05 # Which is of course true, because we now use .rockbox 23.14.02 # And when I do a "reset playlist dir", it replaces the dir with "/Playlists", which is, of course, also wrong 23.17.51 Quit Keripo (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 23.18.41 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@SEAS180.wlan.seas.upenn.edu) 23.19.22 # kugel: before there were some random scratchs or glitchs, I don't know how to call that with MP3 VBR and FLAC files at variable 200>532MHz. I had to force the 532MHz to get rid of them 23.20.00 # now with variable CPU frequency it doesn't happen anymore but Lorenzo told me maybe it runs always at 532Mhz now 23.21.28 # lebellium: the loader sets ondemand governor 23.21.51 # Yes I know 23.21.59 # but maybe it doesnt work well as far as I understood 23.23.44 # lebellium: I havent checked 23.23.49 # but what I can tell you, before ALSA, I had to disable the ondemand governor. Other users experienced the same playback issues 23.24.00 Join perrikwp [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 23.24.08 # well, great it works then :) 23.24.10 Quit Horscht (Quit: Verlassend) 23.24.19 # (/me havent had issues in the short time he used sdl) 23.30.19 Quit Keripo (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 23.30.35 Quit liar (Remote host closed the connection) 23.31.05 # But now, I have a small buzz when rockbox loads, that I didn't noticed before 23.31.48 # And I can't change the language 23.32.10 # lovasoa: I guess we wanted to wait before releasing the new version. 23.32.42 # lovasoa: mine is set to German just fine 23.32.46 # lebellium: Sorry. Do you want me to remove the post 23.32.49 # ? 23.33.46 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.6) 23.33.53 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@SEAS180.wlan.seas.upenn.edu) 23.33.55 # kugel: When I go to Settings>General Settings, and click Language, nothing happens... 23.34.53 # lovasoa: then your rockbox.zip is messed up and lacks language files 23.35.18 # I did have that too a few times on android. I wonder what's up there 23.35.39 # lovasoa: well I don't know. We wanted to release a new ROM with different version number to avoid confusions (this is not modded fw 2.20) and maybe wait for a working battery indicator? 23.36.05 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.37.08 # kugel: In my rockbox.zip, I have all the languages in the langs folder 23.37.54 # And I can change the language by opening the *lng file directly. But the menu item doasn't work 23.38.00 Join Scromple [0] (~Simon@115-64-195-104.static.tpgi.com.au) 23.38.01 # works fine for me 23.38.39 # for me too 23.38.56 # the menu tries to opne the dir with the langs, perhaps it's pointing to the wrong dir? 23.39.18 # lebellium: On the forum, fl_ said "just hit us with any update - no matter how infinitesimal it may be -". So I thought it would be a good thing to post a version with ALSA 23.39.34 # n1s: I guess, although it should behave more sane 23.39.36 # * lovasoa thinks n1s is right 23.39.47 # kugel: of course it should :) 23.40.13 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 23.40.20 # It would then be the same problem then the one with "Playlists dir not found" 23.41.19 # lovasoa: the problem is that ABI is a general public forum, you just post the links like that without further explanations and then the people come to say "that doesn't work, please help" etc. That's why since we release modded firmwares, Lorenzo and me prefer to plan and organize well every release :) 23.43.52 # just make sure they dont think rockbox has released something 23.44.17 # I mean your test builds are not official 23.44.26 # We know that and they know too 23.44.35 # as long as it's not in the SVN 23.44.42 # lebellium: OK. I deleted my post 23.44.50 # then I, for one, dont care what you guys do over there :) 23.45.07 # how soon until this goes into SVN anyway? 23.45.36 # saratoga: I think it shouldnt take that long anymore. it's working very well already 23.45.47 # great 23.46.00 # i guess getting it into the build system might be trickier 23.46.25 # one problem is that I don't know how the installation works (i.e. how this special rom is crafted) and how to deal with the toolchain setup 23.46.26 # lovasoa: Thanks. I'll ask Lorenzo tomorrow to prepare the new ROM so that you don't feel frustrated too long :p 23.46.38 # Is someone currently working on making the radio work? 23.46.54 # saratoga: this needs a full-blown compiler (not the ones we build in rockboxdev.sh) 23.47.22 # so i guess this will require an update of rockboxdev.sh? 23.47.28 # have you picked a gcc version for it yet? 23.47.35 # bootstrapping one isnt fun, i'd rather pick some you can download pre-build. not sure we're happy with codesourcery? 23.47.54 # i suppose using the same one as the other arm targets would simplify codec optimization 23.48.12 # I'm currently using 4.4.1 (because we know 4.4.x works well), but I guess anything newer would also work 23.48.27 # why codesourcery? as i recall it wasn't any better then stock in our tests 23.48.40 # where can you download stock? 23.48.51 # you'd probably to build it 23.48.57 # as I said, bootstrapping isnt fun 23.49.13 # oh, why is that? 23.49.15 # with this one you need to build the c library as well 23.50.08 # possibly the bootstrapping is simplified if the c library is already prebuilt, but I really don't know 23.51.50 # but IIRC normally you need 3 steps: binutils, minimal stange gcc, minimal libc, full gcc, full libc (we stop at minimal gcc for the other toolchains) 23.52.05 # it's sure taking a while and has tricky dependencies 23.52.36 # do debian or ubuntu provide packed arm cross compilers? 23.53.05 # ubuntu does i think 23.53.21 # (linaro project?) 23.53.29 # yes i'm seeing that on google 23.53.53 # perhaps using theirs would be best? we could easily install it in a VM for anyone who needed to compile 23.53.59 # I tried to use the one provided by ubuntu, and everything I compiled was segfaulting on the target 23.54.14 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 23.54.39 # saratoga: what's the advantage of debian/ubuntu packages? 23.54.56 # easy to install 23.55.01 # the disadvantage is being limited to .deb-based systems 23.55.10 # true 23.55.26 # only slightly easier, and you need root access on the dev machine 23.55.59 # which is not true for rockboxdev.sh compilers. codesourcery gcc is only unzipping (and adding to $PATH) and works on all linux 23.56.23 Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.57.07 Quit ender1 (Quit: On the contrary, if you never procreate, neither will your kids.) 23.57.14 # But there is no 64bit version of sourcery, is it? 23.57.16 # distro packages could be updated to a new major gcc version any time, possibly breaking our build 23.58.57 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving)