--- Log for 08.12.111 Server: barjavel.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 3 days and 9 hours ago 00.04.22 Join perrikwp [0] (~quassel@cpe-071-076-184-171.triad.res.rr.com) 00.04.23 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.04.35 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 00.04.37 Join antil33t [0] (~Ahurhurr@101.98.148.94) 00.05.57 Join factor [0] (~factor@74.197.205.204) 00.07.43 Part Zagor 00.08.51 # pamaury: hm... I can't reproduce the not-flackering mode. :/ I'll have to talk to alienkid. 00.08.58 # *flickering 00.14.28 Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.18.37 # perhaps a dead end. :/ 00.23.25 Quit ender` (Quit: I have always wished that my computer would be as easy to use as my telephone. My wish has come true. I no longer know how to use my telephone. -- Bjarne Stroustrup) 00.25.29 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 00.39.32 Join dreamlayers [0] (~bgjenero@bas4-windsor12-1279315145.dsl.bell.ca) 00.39.32 Quit dreamlayers (Changing host) 00.39.32 Join dreamlayers [0] (~bgjenero@rockbox/developer/dreamlayers) 00.39.45 Part low_light 00.41.40 Quit TheLemonMan (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 00.45.04 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 9.0/20111130065942]) 00.46.14 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.48.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.09.13 Part lovasoa 01.12.29 Quit rarog (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [SeaMonkey 2.4.1/20111011102430]) 01.15.28 Quit nosa-j (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.18.37 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-79-99.clt.bellsouth.net) 01.28.37 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng382.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 01.30.10 Quit kadoban (Read error: Operation timed out) 01.56.51 Quit factor (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 02.05.00 Join white_magic [0] (white_magi@69.76.19.210) 02.05.25 # does anyone know if any firmware for the sansa clip+ can playback cuesheets (like foobar2000 can)? 02.05.41 # as i just found out, rockbox currently only displays the contents of a cueshet 02.05.57 Join saratoga_ [0] (9803c31c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.195.28) 02.07.30 # i think rockbox is pretty much the only firmware for anything that plays cue sheets 02.08.14 # well it doesn't playback the ones i have.. but i wonder if it's because the same directory contains another cuesheet and another mp3 file (in addition to the one this first cuesheet is supposed to correspond to) 02.08.22 # http://www.rockbox.org/mail/archive/rockbox-archive-2007-04/0024.shtml 02.14.44 # nope, that's not the problem, i just tested it.. 02.17.37 # of course it plays cuesheets, if they are named correctly 02.17.42 # you may need to actually enable them 02.18.07 # yeah, settings > playback settings > cuesheet support 02.18.19 # set that to yes 02.19.11 Join factor [0] (~factor@74.197.205.204) 02.19.13 Quit user890104 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 02.20.53 # ohhhh lemme try that! 02.21.48 # wow,that's all there was to it 02.22.01 # funny thing, fb2k ALSO had cuesheet playback disabled by default 02.22.19 # open a bug on that... i don't think there is a good reason it needs to be enabled explicitly anymore 02.22.46 # hmm i guess i need to register for that 02.22.50 # oh well, it's for a good cause! 02.23.10 # * JdGordon has a very quick look 02.25.24 # ah, don't bother 02.25.36 # ok, it looks like we just dont want to do the extra file search for every track 02.26.34 # Not sure how that works. Are you saying there is a lot of overhead processing when cuesheet support is enabled? 02.26.41 # does it matter what the cue sheets are named? 02.26.51 # i realllly doubt that 02.26.53 # you have to read from the disk to see if a cue sheet exists 02.27.07 # saratoga_: they need to be named .cue in the current dir, or possibly in /cue also 02.27.10 # what matters most is that the mp3 file referenced in the cuesheet is correct 02.27.21 # JdGordon: ok, would you mind adding that to the manual? 02.27.32 # isnt it there? 02.28.01 # it doesn't mention what filename to use as far as I can tell 02.28.05 # just says to enable them 02.28.18 # im at work currently, and generally hate fixing the manual :) 02.28.19 # so pass! 02.28.36 # well i don't know how cue sheets work so i'm not doing it 02.28.39 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.30.33 Join user890104 [0] (~Venci@Addicted.to.Minecraft.ipv6.6bez10.info) 02.31.07 # "not it" 02.35.02 Quit white_magic () 02.35.29 # With dircache, searching for cue files should be cheap. Also, targets with dircache have so much memory that the additional allocation for cuesheet support shouldn't be an issue. 02.43.18 # if that is the actual reason, maybe we change the default to be deendant on dircache then? 02.46.17 # That makes sense to me. Just one question: can different setting defaults on different targets be confusing to users or require changes to the manual? 02.46.31 # i think its safe to make people turn this on 02.46.40 # its rarely used, and you'd probably have to check the manual anyway 02.48.50 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.49.15 # i tihnk the naming scheme is actually pretty standard 02.49.49 # same name as the file but with a .cue? 02.49.53 # yes 02.50.09 # ok then maybe having it on by default makes sense 02.54.13 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 02.56.43 Join kadoban [0] (~kadoban@ip98-165-177-158.ph.ph.cox.net) 03.02.42 Quit dreamlayers (Quit: back later) 03.04.05 Quit ps-auxw (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 03.09.40 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-068-213-037-174.sip.mcn.bellsouth.net) 03.10.09 Join ps-auxw [0] (~arneb@p4FF7EED7.dip.t-dialin.net) 03.20.51 Quit jhMikeS (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 03.37.07 Join CaptainKewl [0] (captainkew@207-237-110-248.c3-0.nyr-ubr2.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 03.39.55 Join factor [0] (~factor@74.197.205.204) 03.43.45 Quit MethoS- (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 03.51.44 Quit factor (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 03.54.54 Join factor [0] (~factor@74.197.205.204) 03.55.52 Quit saratoga_ (Quit: Page closed) 03.56.47 Quit perrikwp (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 03.58.29 Quit Keripo (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 04.04.19 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@c-68-61-166-99.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 04.04.20 Quit jhMikeS (Changing host) 04.04.20 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 04.19.01 Join BHSPitMonkey [0] (~stephen@unaffiliated/bhspitmonkey) 04.29.00 Join dys` [0] (~andreas@krlh-5f71ec92.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.30.22 Quit dys (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 04.34.27 Join perrikwp [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 04.35.47 Quit TheSeven (Disconnected by services) 04.35.59 Join [7] [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.44.03 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.44.03 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.44.25 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.44.55 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.44.57 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.44.59 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.47.46 Quit bluefoxx (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.48.52 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.50.15 Join bluefoxx [0] (FuzzyLomba@S0106e0cb4e0a6d8a.vs.shawcable.net) 05.01.11 Quit factor (Quit: Leaving) 05.01.32 Join factor [0] (~factor@74.197.205.204) 05.04.38 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05.06.10 Join dreamlayers [0] (~bgjenero@bas4-windsor12-1279288015.dsl.bell.ca) 05.06.11 Quit dreamlayers (Changing host) 05.06.11 Join dreamlayers [0] (~bgjenero@rockbox/developer/dreamlayers) 05.29.09 Join Rob2223 [0] (~Miranda@p4FFF091C.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.33.21 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 05.34.35 Quit ps-auxw (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 05.36.04 Join ps-auxw [0] (~arneb@2001:470:c807:0:1532:4e5f:2ad3:4123) 05.41.21 Quit Horscht (Quit: Verlassend) 06.22.58 Join zchs [0] (~zchs@ool-ad02eb3f.dyn.optonline.net) 06.32.24 Quit knittl (Read error: Operation timed out) 06.34.31 Nick dys` is now known as dys (~andreas@krlh-5f71ec92.pool.mediaWays.net) 06.34.39 Quit Elfish (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 06.34.40 Quit nomada (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 06.34.46 Quit Staphylo (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 06.35.01 Quit simabeis (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 06.35.38 Quit Farthen (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 06.36.51 Join knittl [0] (~knittl@unaffiliated/knittl) 06.39.26 Join Farthen [0] (~Farthen@2a01:4f8:101:2a4:0:bc28:b2e1:9) 06.40.44 Join Elfish [0] (amba@2a01:4f8:100:90a1:abc:abc:abc:abc) 06.41.12 Join simabeis [0] (~simabeis@lobmenschen.de) 06.41.51 Join nomada [0] (~nomada@irc.consciente.de) 06.45.01 Quit ranmachan (Read error: Operation timed out) 06.47.38 Quit Elfish (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 06.47.44 Join Staphylo [0] (~Staphylo@mareo.fr) 06.48.19 Join ranmachan [0] (~ranma@2a01:4f8:130:9321::2) 06.48.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.49.25 Quit nomada (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net) 06.49.44 Join Elfish [0] (amba@2a01:4f8:100:90a1:abc:abc:abc:abc) 06.49.51 Join nomad0 [0] (~nomada@irc.consciente.de) 06.49.55 Nick nomad0 is now known as nomada (~nomada@irc.consciente.de) 07.01.15 Quit CaptainKewl (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.07.57 Join hpbis [0] (624793a8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.71.147.168) 07.16.34 Quit dreamlayers (Quit: Goodnight) 07.20.29 Join chkktri_ [0] (~user@85.26.231.100) 07.24.21 Quit sinthetek (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 07.35.18 Quit hpbis (Quit: Page closed) 07.35.24 Join thopter [0] (~d07b9022@www.haxx.se) 07.36.45 # I just installed the 3.10 update. How do I uninstall the Doom files that were installed with everything else? I never play it, so I'd like to free up that disk space. 07.39.47 Quit Guest97684 (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 07.40.04 Join sinthetek [0] (~sinthetek@cpe-174-111-026-094.triad.res.rr.com) 07.40.04 Quit sinthetek (Changing host) 07.40.04 Join sinthetek [0] (~sinthetek@unaffiliated/sinthetek) 07.41.05 Quit thopter (Quit: CGI:IRC 0.5.9 (2006/06/06)) 07.41.39 Join [sanyi] [0] (~sanyi@apollo.pcpult.hu) 07.41.48 Quit [sanyi] (Changing host) 07.41.48 Join [sanyi] [0] (~sanyi@unaffiliated/alexanderc) 07.50.36 Quit rjg (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 07.51.22 Join rjg [0] (~robert@2a01:348:15f:0:2e0:18ff:fe23:ae28) 07.51.37 Quit [sanyi] (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.53.49 Join mortalis [0] (~c3133585@www.haxx.se) 08.08.30 Join [sanyi] [0] (~sanyi@unaffiliated/alexanderc) 08.35.06 Join GodEater_ [0] (93722cd0@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 08.46.06 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-76-160-35.dynamic.chello.pl) 08.47.49 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@vit94-1-82-67-248-70.fbx.proxad.net) 08.47.49 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 08.47.49 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 08.48.00 # while im figuring out how to make the sleep timer shortcutable, anyone have any requests for items which currently arent possible? 08.48.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.49.47 Join ender` [0] (~ender@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.52.00 # I guess you would like to hear about shortcuts and not about fm screen and rec screen ;-) 08.53.39 # JdGordon, dreamlayers: I guess the main reason is the whooping ~72K for each cuesheet struct. at least one is buffer alloced 08.54.24 # now with buflib we should be able to enable it on demand when the first cuesheet is found 08.55.21 Quit Scromple (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.56.28 Join bluefoxx_ [0] (fuzzylomba@S0106e0cb4e0a6d8a.vs.shawcable.net) 08.56.45 Quit mortalis (Quit: CGI:IRC) 08.58.10 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 08.59.50 Quit bluefoxx (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 09.09.58 Join mgue [0] (~mgue@p57B3C9B1.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.10.46 Quit BHSPitMonkey (Remote host closed the connection) 09.10.59 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@giant.haxx.se) 09.12.56 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.24.38 Join nick-p [0] (~nick@82-69-105-120.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) 09.26.07 # kugel: where is it allocated? I had a really quick look before and didnt see it? 09.27.28 # hm, actually I think it's not buffer_alloc'd (apart from that this function doesnt exist anymore) anymore. IIRC it's on the audio buffer directly and only if a cuesheet exists for playing file 09.28.12 # so whats the harm of having it enabled 09.28.13 # ? 09.28.40 Quit rjg (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.28.46 Join rjg [0] (~robert@odie.tomelliott.net) 09.29.26 # none I'd say 09.36.01 Quit Ac-town (Changing host) 09.36.01 Join Ac-town [0] (~Ac-town@osuosl/staff/actown) 09.38.17 # JdGordon, kugel: Isn't it allocated in apps/playback.c, audio_load_cuesheet 1229? (I've been looking at this while working on FS#12419) 09.38.17 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12419 3Support for embedded cuesheets. (patches, unconfirmed) 09.39.12 Join lasser [0] (~chatzilla@p57B58181.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 09.39.25 # nick-p: surely thats only allocated if it is needed? 09.39.37 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09.40.10 # JdGordon: Yes, I think that's currently the case (and if the user has it enabled) 09.40.20 # ok, so lets enable it by default 09.40.31 # no, let's remove the setting :) 09.40.49 # IIRC I converted hwcodec to do the same during my buflib work 09.40.50 # well that causes a hit if dircache isnt enabled thoguh 09.41.23 # why? aren't cuesheets on the buffer? 09.41.37 # cuesheet-mob I mean? 09.41.50 # not ram hit, disk access 09.42.11 # cuesheet-mob I mean? 09.42.25 # :) 09.42.38 # cuesheet is handled like album art isnt it? 09.42.58 # yeah, but check for the file for every track? 09.43.06 # meh, we do it for aa, yeah, remove the setting 09.43.16 Quit keyb_gr (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 09.43.26 # the check is negible if the disk is already spinning 09.43.56 # with dircache anyway 09.44.34 Part lasser 09.55.10 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~LemonBoy@ppp-28-57.26-151.libero.it) 10.06.29 Quit kadoban (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 10.07.13 # dammit! pressing STD_CONTEXT in the time+date screen does talk_time() which is stopping the usual menu context menu so those items cant be added to the shortcuts screen :/ 10.10.39 # JdGordon: Is it time for a dedicated sleep timer sub menu? I've got another item to add in the pipeline... 10.11.02 # eww, no 10.11.09 # whats the new item? 10.11.29 # FS#12338 10.11.29 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12338 3Option to restart running sleep timer on keypress (patches, unconfirmed) 10.12.43 # does that really need to be a setting? 10.12.51 # I'd have thought that shold just happen? 10.13.35 # I couldn't decide. I thought it might confuse people that the sleep timer kept restarting. 10.13.57 # I think it should be default behaviour though 10.14.20 # why would you have put sleep timer on if you were still using the dap? 10.15.01 # Well if you reach over to adjust the volume/ tweak a setting it's likely you're not asleep yet ;) 10.15.04 # the only reaosn i can tihnk of if you skip a song in your playlist and dont want it to go for another hour 10.15.15 # but then you probably want it to keep going 10.15.21 # untill you are actually aslep 10.15.44 # That's right. I think most firmwares restart the timer on keypress 10.16.01 # so get rid of the setting and wait to see if there is any negative feedback 10.16.34 # OK, I'll re-jig the patch 10.17.40 # in all likelyhood anyone who gets annoyed by it restarting will forget the annoyance in the morning when they wake up :) 10.19.57 # OK, so i think for shortcuts I'll just add a special type for the "start sleep timer" 10.20.03 # and add "talk time" while im there 10.20.31 # no real point mangling the time+date menu callback to make this work seen as only 1 item in it is shortcutable automatically anyway 10.24.45 # nick-p: how do i disable the sleep time? 10.25.26 # JdGordon: the following will toggle it; 10.25.27 # if (get_sleep_timer()) sleep_timer_set(0); else set_sleep_timer(global_settings.sleeptimer_duration * 60); 10.25.38 # 0 means disabled then? 10.25.42 # Yes 10.25.46 # easy peasy :) 10.27.03 # most firmwares/devices/TVs I have seen do not restart the times 10.27.37 # JdGordon: sorry that should have been set_sleep_timer(0) 10.28.28 # kugel: I meant DAPs, I've never seen a TV do it 10.29.55 # kugel: would you rather see it as a setting then? 10.30.09 # I dont care actually 10.31.01 # IMO restarting on keypress is okay, a setting is not needed IMO 10.31.23 # yeah, setting is bloat unless there is any feedback 10.32.55 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 10.36.55 # is there a lang string for something like "sleep timer set?" 10.37.00 Join qnm [0] (~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a) 10.38.28 Join shai [0] (~Shai@l192-117-110-233.cable.actcom.net.il) 10.40.44 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@dhcp0751.kin.resnet.group.UPENN.EDU) 10.40.52 # I think a "sleep timer" shouldn't reset on keypresses. If it was called "inactivity shutdown" or something it should 10.40.53 # could someone with with the clue of our targets screen sizes look at how to optimally do output from backtrace()? 10.46.31 # JdGordon: only LANG_SLEEP_TIMER "Sleep Timer", it's currently used in s sprintf 10.49.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 10.52.18 Join keyb_gr [0] (~chatzilla@p4FF030E1.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.52.18 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.6) 10.54.07 # Well that was easy, turned out 99% of the patch was the setting handling. 10.54.08 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 10.54.19 # thats why I said it was ointless :) 10.54.43 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 10.56.14 Quit Keripo (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10.58.35 Join Laiskloom [0] (~ident@80-235-56-93-dsl.trt.estpak.ee) 10.58.53 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@dhcp0751.kin.resnet.group.upenn.edu) 10.59.47 # is the sleep timer dependant on HAVE_RTC? 11.00.52 # No, that just's just where the menu option ends up 11.01.34 # T&D sub-menu if there's a RTC, settings menu(?) otherwise 11.02.11 # ok 11.06.48 Part Laiskloom 11.10.22 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~LemonBoy@ppp-28-57.26-151.libero.it) 11.12.04 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 11.16.50 # wodz: an you use buttons in the backtrace screen? 11.17.25 # and how many lines do you want to show? 11.23.05 # JdGordon: backtrace() is fatal as it is called from panicf() or from UIE so it basically waits for button to reset the device IMO. 11.23.40 # JdGordon: backtrace() can show at most 32 calls but in practice I never saw more than 7 11.23.50 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r31178): shortcuts: talk the time and configure the sleep timeout ... 11.24.23 # wodz: can we allow the up/down buttons? 11.24.36 # if it would work - why not 11.25.02 # then there should be no problem displaying the full thing on any target 11.25.47 # r31178 build result: 76 errors, 0 warnings (jdgordon committed) 11.26.17 # but remember that when crashed various things may break (for example adc reads for buttons might be borked) 11.27.31 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r31179): Fix red 11.27.46 # sure, but in that case there isnt much you can do anyway 11.28.07 # so just print as many lines as you can 11.28.29 # my point is that it should display as much interesting things as possible on single screen, scrolling is added value 11.29.21 # r31179 build result: All green 11.31.14 # you dont really have a choice, you have to use the sysfont so number of lines is fixed 11.32.21 # now im done with that... wodz, what did you want to mention about the fm/rec screens? 11.32.39 Join casainho [0] (~chatzilla@pal-213-228-181-14.netvisao.pt) 11.35.01 # fm, can't remember but rec screen is plain ugly 11.40.33 Join webguest995 [0] (~c391b46a@www.haxx.se) 11.41.00 Join webguest579 [0] (~c391b46a@www.haxx.se) 11.42.32 Quit webguest995 (Client Quit) 11.43.19 Quit webguest579 (Client Quit) 11.52.09 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 11.58.38 # the standard dirent is fighting against rockbox definitions 11.58.49 Quit casainho (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 7.0.1/20111008085056]) 11.59.06 # how do i suppress the latter ? 12.00.07 Quit dv_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12.00.08 # preprocessor magic in dir.h/dir_uncached.h/dir_cached.h 12.00.15 # it's quite complicated 12.01.15 # dont see where you disable that in your patch tho 12.22.40 Join mystica [0] (~mystica@mystica.mobi) 12.23.21 Nick mystica555 is now known as mystica555_ (~Mike@71-211-210-11.hlrn.qwest.net) 12.23.26 Nick mystica is now known as mystica555 (~mystica@mystica.mobi) 12.25.18 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng138.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 12.35.12 # onto next problem! is there a dummy audio driver i can use ? 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12.57.14 # TheLemonMan: yes, we are doing that. Only volumes are managed directly from as3543 12.57.26 Join keyb_gr [0] (~chatzilla@p4FF030E1.dip.t-dialin.net) 12.58.07 # but we have still to enable also the various ARM optimizations, perphaps that's the point too 12.58.28 # I just wonder why with SDL cpu usage seemed to be lower... 13.00.58 # and alsa has no volume support ? 13.02.52 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 13.03.42 # well it's poor implemented by samsung... 13.03.50 # but that's not the problem... 13.04.56 # how do i get the modification time from a specific file? 13.05.11 # check_bootfile() seems to scan the whole dir which im hoping isnt needed? 13.07.00 # lorenzo92: it's possible that I chose the buffer sizes too tight 13.07.22 # is there a way to get a buflib handle by its name? 13.07.28 # (from a plugin) 13.07.37 # * JdGordon has a cunning plan! 13.07.45 # kugel: uhm ok... 13.08.23 # lorenzo92: you can try to bump them, they're defined at the top of pcm-alsa.c 13.09.33 # well, bump only buffer_size, period_size shouldn't make a difference 13.09.54 # good. will try that when I'm back ;) 13.09.57 # alternatively you could also try to use the tick task polling mode (just undef USE_ASYNC_CALLBACK) 13.10.12 # JdGordon: no 13.11.09 # TheLemonMan, lorenzo92: it's not samsung. alsa simply doesnt handle volume 13.11.21 Quit stripwax (Quit: http://miranda-im.org) 13.11.39 # uhm well yes, throug the alsa mixer! it's available also in device... 13.11.46 # but yeah no matter ;) 13.12.48 # holly shit - the difference between what is in sdk driver and my dump is exactly 1 bit - it must be corrected by BCH engine when it is setup to 13.13.04 # lorenzo92: did experiment with my lcd driver re-write a bit? 13.13.41 # What do people think about having the plugin list automatically remove _'s from plugin names? 13.14.04 # I don't like name mangling 13.14.08 # I mean in general 13.14.37 # sure, but in the plugin menu, *not* the generic file browser 13.14.38 # kugel: no time :( will do that this evening ;) 13.14.47 # Those underscores suck :) 13.15.06 # not a fan. if we do that we can do it properly and assign pre-compiled real names 13.15.21 # lorenzo92: no hurry :) 13.15.37 # kugel: no, because spaces in the filenames are bound to mess something up 13.15.46 # my device has OSS support and the driver does support volume changing via ioctls 13.16.05 # so i'm on the safe side, i just need to tell rockbox not to use any codec 13.16.11 # JdGordon: I use them just fine. Anyway, I meant a pre-compiled mapping not changing the filenames 13.16.23 # JdGordon: I think he means assign the field in header for example 13.16.35 # * kugel wonders how spaces in filenames are problematic 13.16.39 # that means loading each .rock at least once 13.16.50 # TheLemonMan: uhm OSS. ok. but software volume isn't that nice... 13.17.06 # which codec have you? 13.17.32 # because on R0 I discovered the ioctls to manage the ascodec (registers) 13.17.46 # err, i guess its the onboard one, freescale branded 13.18.03 # no, I didnt mean to put the name in the header. I meant a { "filename", "Real Name" } style lookup table 13.18.13 # eeeewww 13.18.40 # 3 lines of code to remove the _ and Capitalise the names... 13.19.29 # the build system is a real mindfuck heh 13.20.16 # TheLemonMan: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/PortingApplication if it's any help 13.20.29 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 13.20.42 # slightly out of date, though 13.21.47 # well i already have the base stuff in place 13.22.10 # i just need to know how should i go for the audio part 13.22.15 # kugel: I have the ioctl codes for the radio at least for scan and get frequency. Could you enable the FM radio menu (in a better way), implementing the source switch of the AScodec? Any idea? 13.22.28 # as im using an approach that no other platform uses 13.23.48 # lorenzo92: the newer sansas, especially clip zip, also have as3543 audio codec and s470x fm radio. perhaps have a look there 13.29.13 # kugel: yes. in fact, to test the chip from a C program, I needed to use alsamixer to mute playback and enable FM in on the ascodec 13.29.20 # DAC<->LINE IN 13.30.38 # did you hear something? 13.30.58 Quit GodEater (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 13.31.00 # yes ;) 13.31.24 # then it shouldnt be too hard :) 13.32.11 Join GodEater [0] (~bibble@cl-711.lon-02.gb.sixxs.net) 13.32.11 Quit GodEater (Changing host) 13.32.11 Join GodEater [0] (~bibble@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 13.34.07 # yeah now I go....see you! 13.34.12 Quit lorenzo92 (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 8.0/20111115183813]) 13.37.46 Quit mystica555_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.02.56 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.09.53 # heh second bit flip in bootloader 14.20.45 Join factor [0] (~factor@74.197.205.204) 14.20.58 Join webguest96 [0] (~dddff87e@www.haxx.se) 14.30.04 Quit thegeek (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.31.17 Quit webguest96 (Quit: CGI:IRC) 14.35.09 Quit bluefoxx_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.36.32 Join bluefoxx [0] (fuzzylomba@S0106e0cb4e0a6d8a.vs.shawcable.net) 14.44.28 Quit liar (Read error: Connection timed out) 14.45.01 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 14.49.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.50.43 Join gbl08ma [0] (~gbl08ma@195.23.214.65) 14.51.52 # hello everyone 14.52.39 # perhaps it's just in front of my eyes (and I haven't done real researching on it), but how do you delete a shortcut from the new shortcuts list, through the GUI? 14.52.54 # that is, without editing the shortcuts file 14.53.16 # I've tried to select and hold the shortcut I want to delete, but no success 14.58.45 Join PaulJam [0] (~Paule@p54BEA06C.dip.t-dialin.net) 14.59.34 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 15.00.44 # gbl08ma: I don't know. the shortcuts feature is so new I haven't even tried it yet 15.00.57 # JdGordon wrote it 15.01.46 # Well, before Shortcuts were in a main menu entry, they were in a plugin. I thought the feature was interesting, but not practical (because you needed to go to the file browser, launch the shortcuts file, and only then select the shortcut) 15.02.26 # now that they are in the main menu, it's a more interesting feature, but I can't seem to be able to remove and shortcut I add 15.02.31 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 15.03.11 # Also, since now shortcuts are able to speak the time and set the sleep timer, it's even more interesting 15.03.23 # I guess I'll have to wait for JdGordon :) 15.14.48 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 15.20.25 # isnt there a shortcuts.txt? 15.24.51 # browsing the rockbox tree gave me goosebumps heh, so much old code mixed with new code 15.28.35 # :) 15.28.45 # hope you overlooked some really horrible parts 15.34.46 # drivers with hardcoded addresses, that was the best part heh 15.38.51 # that's not really avoidable 15.38.55 # that's how you do hardware :) 15.44.37 Quit lxs-makot0 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 15.45.59 # the i2c driver is a good example of how to write an extensible driver 15.46.15 # i even used it outside of rockbox and it gave no problems at all 15.50.56 Join keyb_gr_ [0] (~chatzilla@p4FF038D9.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.51.14 Quit keyb_gr (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 15.51.26 Nick keyb_gr_ is now known as keyb_gr (~chatzilla@p4FF038D9.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.51.46 Join lxs-makot0 [0] (~makoto@rbh.res1.nat.lxsys.co.cc) 15.53.42 Quit mgue (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 15.54.49 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-76-160-35.dynamic.chello.pl) 15.55.02 Join mgue [0] (~mgue@p57B3C031.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.56.58 # TheLemonMan: Are you talking about software i2c driver? If so it is a) dead simple b) specs are open c) it doesn't need any fancy hw support 15.57.33 # lots of our stuff is based on RE and wild guessing 16.02.12 # well yeah, i know, but with a bit of reworking even REd drivers can be fancy 16.02.47 # and maybe gain even some performance 16.05.24 # anyway, what is sound_val2phys and tenthdb2master are supposed to do ? 16.09.02 # IIRC tehthdb2master() converts volume in centibels into value expected by the hardware 16.09.23 # sound_val2phys do the reverese 16.11.09 # TheLemonMan: And speaking about hardware drivers - there is little chance the code can be reused later. We try to split midleware and implement only parts close to hardware 16.14.49 # BTW. our sw i2c is quite limited - it doesn't support clock stretching and 10bit address which many hw controllers can do 16.14.55 Quit PaulJam (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 16.15.49 # but you can easily add those functions to it because is modular 16.16.00 # TheLemonMan: anyway you are welcomed to do our drivers more reliable 16.17.52 # TheLemonMan: well writing driver for i2c or spi is 30 minutes of work (tests included). Writing good driver for SD without docs and poor controller documentation can be real challange. And writing driver for some part you are not really sure what it does exactly springs into magic 16.18.15 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 16.18.26 # i'll happily give an hand doing so once i get rockbox running on this player :) 16.20.37 # anyway, i specified in the config.h that i dont have an rtc alarm but the code still expects the alarm functions 16.25.40 Join WalkGood [0] (~4@unaffiliated/walkgood) 16.25.55 # TheLemonMan: you should modify traget specific config not global config.h 16.26.34 # i obiviously meant that config file :) 16.26.56 # HAVE_RTC_ALARM isnt defined but the alarm app is still being compiled 16.27.05 Join [IDC]Dragon [0] (~hohensohn@a89-182-188-108.net-htp.de) 16.27.43 # <[IDC]Dragon> Happy birthday Rockbox! 16.28.18 Quit antil33t (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 16.28.31 Join antil33t| [0] (~Ahurhurr@101.98.150.103) 16.28.36 # <[IDC]Dragon> (from me ex developer) 16.29.41 # [IDC]Dragon: fix that "ex" bit! ;) 16.30.15 # <[IDC]Dragon> rockbox is complete 16.31.20 # <[IDC]Dragon> for my Archos that is, I'm not updating it any more 16.31.52 Join thegeek [0] (~thegeek@87.37.34.95.customer.cdi.no) 16.32.11 # [IDC]Dragon: wow, long time no see! 16.32.54 # [IDC]Dragon: welcome back! o/ 16.33.56 Part LinusN 16.35.19 # * gevaerts sets up a debate between [IDC]Dragon and JdGordon :) 16.35.26 Join y4n [0] (y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 16.37.14 # there won't be a debate, I guess :/ 16.37.33 # * pixelma waves to [IDC]Dragon 16.37.35 # <[IDC]Dragon> do I know JdGordon? 16.37.47 # <[IDC]Dragon> hi everybody! 16.37.58 # * [IDC]Dragon waves back 16.39.20 # HAVE_RTC_ALARM gets defined and cant undef it >: 16.41.01 # wouldn't you just have to comment out the line in your target config and make clena? 16.41.04 # clean? 16.42.16 Quit shai (Quit: Leaving) 16.46.04 # already done many times 16.49.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.49.47 # are you sure you're editiing the correct file? 16.50.07 # as that's the only place it is defined (except for an rtc modded h100) 16.50.49 # oh, yep, my target config has no mention of rtc at all 16.50.51 # what target is it and how different is the code from svn? 16.52.14 # its the target i just created and im using the svn version checkouted this morning 16.53.22 Quit GodEater_ (Quit: Page closed) 16.53.37 # the easiest way is probably to just post a diff to some pastebin then 16.54.12 Join kadoban [0] (~kadoban@ip98-165-177-158.ph.ph.cox.net) 16.55.37 # err, the diff is pretty big, isnt the config.h just enough ? 16.57.37 # perhaps, i'd think the error would be either in your target config, config.h or the configure script 16.58.46 Part Zagor 16.59.39 # hrm, it was in the config.h, i forgot to include the config 17.04.24 # anyone has an idea about what is this chip: http://amaury.pouly.free.fr/Images/unk_chip.png; my guess would be an i2c eeprom given the other chips on the board but it has a lot of pins :! 17.06.42 Quit antil33t| (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 17.09.48 Quit SynrG (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 17.12.31 Join dreamlayers [0] (~bgjenero@bas4-windsor12-1279315868.dsl.bell.ca) 17.12.32 Quit dreamlayers (Changing host) 17.12.32 Join dreamlayers [0] (~bgjenero@rockbox/developer/dreamlayers) 17.14.32 Join antil33t [0] (~Ahurhurr@101.98.150.103) 17.15.03 Quit mgue (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.15.38 # I'd like to commit FS#12418 soon. Are there any objections to what I'm doing there? 17.15.38 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12418 3Merge prototypes from ata-target.h files into one file (patches, new) 17.16.50 Join mgue [0] (~mgue@p57B3CCE2.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.18.26 # * [IDC]Dragon wave goodby, see you on another exposed occasion! 17.18.43 # <[IDC]Dragon> waves 17.19.37 Quit [IDC]Dragon (Quit: Ex-Chat) 17.26.26 Quit Topy44 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.26.57 # dreamlayers: sounds good to me 17.28.25 # pamaury: It doesn't look like eeprom 17.28.41 # maybe some nor flash? 17.29.02 # nls: thanks 17.29.35 # wodz: yes I agree, it doesn't look like eeprom, but does it look like nor flash ? 17.29.46 # pamaury: can you distinguish which pins are power lines 17.32.09 # got rockbox compiled but doesnt run on target 17.32.24 # and no console output to check, great 17.33.32 # QFN20 isn't very popular either 17.34.03 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@f049143054.adsl.alicedsl.de) 17.37.21 # it could even be a little mcu 17.38.22 # I'm not sure but given the placement of the chip, 5 of the lines could be gpios to some leds and capacitive buttons; so perhaps it's a mcu or a "touch" controller 17.39.42 Quit Zarggg (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 17.44.45 # ok it doesn't matter, I'm pretty sure it's a touch sensor controller or something like this 17.53.56 Join SynrG [0] (~synrg@blk-222-91-184.eastlink.ca) 17.54.54 Quit SynrG (Changing host) 17.54.54 Join SynrG [0] (~synrg@debian/developer/synrg) 17.59.10 Join lovasoa [0] (~olojkine@78.251.22.118) 18.07.50 # kugel: Does your patch add new features (except CPU debug), or correct bugs? Or is it a simple code rearrangement? 18.27.39 # hey, that's a funny choice. apparently some mp3 player I have has a nand flash + a sd<->flash bridge; they could have use a flash with sd interface directly 18.28.54 # kugel: any hint about troubleshooting a rockbox binary that wont start ? 18.34.13 Join PaulJam [0] (~Paule@p54BEAB9F.dip.t-dialin.net) 18.43.45 Join alienkid10 [0] (~alienkid@unaffiliated/alienkid10) 18.44.06 Join qwertyuiop369 [0] (~chatzilla@evdomip-76-79-226.iusacell.net) 18.44.25 # pamaury: what info do you need? I got rid of the lines again 18.44.35 # didn't reboot yet 18.45.26 # just pastebin the clocsk and voltages, just to see if there is a difference; I'm moreinterested in the value when the problem are there :) 18.45.34 # hi!. rockbox for ipod clasic? 18.45.51 # pamaury: what screens? 18.46.11 # ini HW info 18.46.49 # first (clocks) and second or third, don't remember; you can't miss the voltage it's written vdd*: x mV 18.47.05 # ok 18.49.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.50.48 Join gbl08ma_ [0] (~gbl08ma@195.23.214.232) 18.51.37 Quit B4gder (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18.51.47 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 18.52.42 Part qwertyuiop369 18.53.24 # darn it 18.53.26 Join B4gder [0] (~daniel@1-1-5-26a.hud.sth.bostream.se) 18.53.27 Quit B4gder (Changing host) 18.53.27 Join B4gder [241] (~daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 18.53.47 # pamaury: it went black right after I finished typing the emi col on screen one 18.53.56 Quit gbl08ma (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 18.54.23 # alienkid10: press any key, it's just backlight no ? 18.54.54 # not backlight 18.55.04 # I turned it and auto off off 18.55.18 # but so far nothing looks different now that I've rebooted 18.55.34 # everything in page one upto emi=same as with lines 18.56.04 # can you pastebin the values ? 18.56.33 # without lines? Yeah but only for page one 18.56.59 # why ? For page one, just pastebin the last value (the frequency) 18.57.03 # want to me to try and change r again and see if it works to get rid of lines then tell me what to check 18.57.49 # no, I don't think the values will change 18.58.05 # pamaury: becuase reboot brings lines back. I'll try to get rid of lines again 18.58.13 # then check more values 19.02.17 # pamaury: computer is updating something I can't do anything right now so will try once done updating 19.04.49 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 19.09.37 Join qwertyuiop369 [0] (~chatzilla@evdomip-76-79-226.iusacell.net) 19.10.08 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 19.10.26 Join jlbiasini [0] (~metaphys@d86-32-96-55.cust.tele2.at) 19.11.37 # pamaury: I'll be back sometime today. 19.11.46 # ok 19.11.46 # sorry my comp is being stupid 19.12.12 Quit alienkid10 (Quit: bye) 19.14.14 # i think my problem is related to dynamic linking 19.17.27 Part jlbiasini 19.18.18 Join nplus [0] (~chatzilla@unaffiliated/simont) 19.20.28 # Hi, does anyone know if there's a similar patch to this one: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/11042 that works with 3.10? I turn on my MP3 player and normally forget about/put it down and the don't want to come back to a dead battery. 19.26.37 Part qwertyuiop369 19.27.28 Join dv_ [0] (~quassel@chello080108009040.14.11.vie.surfer.at) 19.28.11 Quit martii (Ping timeout: 258 seconds) 19.33.05 Quit lovasoa (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.33.53 # nplus: what do you mean? 19.34.01 Quit kadoban (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 19.37.30 # The linked patch isn't up to date with for 3.10. When I turn on my mp3 player I would like a "inactivity" timer to start - it gets reset every time a button is press (similar to the backlight timer). After X minutes of inactivity turn off the mp3 player 19.37.35 Join Stummi [0] (~Stummi@rockbox/developer/Stummi) 19.37.41 # saratoga: ^ 19.42.22 Join martii [0] (martii@sokrates.zagrodzki.net) 19.43.06 # nplus: not sure i understand, but i think FS#12338 is what you want 19.43.07 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12338 3Option to restart running sleep timer on keypress (patches, unconfirmed) 19.43.46 # Thanks I'll take a look at that 19.46.05 # saratoga: That's almost what I want. I'd like the sleep timer to start on boot as well 19.46.25 # i think it already does 19.46.52 # http://download.rockbox.org/daily/manual/rockbox-sansaclipplus/rockbox-buildch11.html#x14-16200011 19.47.39 # Oh ok I'm running rockbox 2? so maybe it's changed since back then? 19.47.50 # huh? 19.51.08 # nplus: rockbox 2 is ancient, it was released several years ago. are you sure that's what you're using? 19.52.08 # to be honest I have no clue right now 19.52.14 # maybe i'm thinking of 3.2? 19.52.41 # i have r28366 19.52.56 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 19.52.57 # Ah, neither 2 nor 3.2 then :) 19.53.14 # i'm way to unfamilar with what i'm talking about 19.53.23 # :P 19.53.58 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@p5DD57883.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.53.58 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 19.53.58 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.54.40 # the point is it's been well over a year since i've updated rockbox 19.55.31 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@24.229.139.169.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) 19.55.35 # last time i did, i had to apply a patch to get the functionality i wanted so I was trying to find a patch to apply now to so i can update it 19.56.57 # I'm going to try http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12338 19.57.20 # rockbox 2 was the early 2000s i think 19.58.21 Quit WalkGood (Quit: CaminaBien ♪ ♫ ♪ ♫) 20.00.18 # Ok I think it's closer to 3.7 20.00.59 # for what it's worth 20.01.25 # I have no clue why I thought i was running 2 20.01.46 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@87.114.138.134) 20.01.47 Quit evilnick (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 20.01.53 # ls 20.05.22 # thanks for pointing me in the right direction 20.12.49 Quit Stummi (Read error: No route to host) 20.13.01 Join Stummi [0] (~Stummi@rockbox/developer/Stummi) 20.14.22 Quit martii (Quit: Reconnecting) 20.14.26 Join martii [0] (martii@sokrates.zagrodzki.net) 20.20.08 # New commit by 03jethead71 (r31180): AS3525v1/v2: ... 20.20.45 Quit PaulJam (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.22.31 # r31180 build result: 36 errors, 0 warnings (jethead71 committed) 20.23.32 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@5e03125a.bb.sky.com) 20.23.32 Quit evilnick (Changing host) 20.23.33 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 20.24.13 # When updating rockbox, should i delete the old .rockbox or just copy overtop of it? 20.24.43 # oh wtf 20.25.13 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@207.144.201.128) 20.25.37 # nplus: just overwrite it 20.25.40 Quit wodz (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 20.26.07 # nplus: just copy it over 20.26.09 # jhMikeS: thanks 20.28.27 # I didn't know it was 10 years... I only just read it on heise.de 20.28.29 # congrats 20.30.21 # I'm reading in the si470x app note (AN230) that for best performance, the channel spacing should be chosen to match the actual station spacing. The RDA5802 always uses a spacing of 50 kHz, I wonder if performance can be increased for this tuner by using a more appropriate channel spacing. Worth a try at least 20.31.15 # The RDA5802 is suspiciously similar to the SI4702, except the register map seems to be different 20.31.26 # performance as in audio quality or scan speed or what? 20.32.27 # audio quality 20.32.41 # ah 20.34.10 Join alienkid10 [0] (~alienkid@unaffiliated/alienkid10) 20.34.25 # pamaury: besides page one what was the other one? 20.36.12 Join Xerion [0] (~xerion@5419A766.cm-5-2c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) 20.43.14 # 10 years was on Pearl Harbor Day? Hmmm.... 20.44.34 # pamaury: here is paste it has one month expiration but I have values in txt file if needed 20.44.43 # pamaury: http://pastebin.com/eU9TK8KF 20.45.10 Join ungali [0] (~8b8e9a81@www.haxx.se) 20.47.48 # I'll hang around in here but will be AFK 20.49.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.04.34 # dreamlayers: could you try gcc 4.6 ? 21.04.36 Part nplus 21.05.34 Quit y4n (Quit: AMIGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAA) 21.05.49 # New commit by 03jethead71 (r31181): Fix sim errors in r31180. 21.06.52 # I tried weak references in the codecs for when codecs don't need a main entrypoint on load but had to abandon it because of mingw 21.08.15 # r31181 build result: All green 21.10.49 # funman: What do you want me to do with gcc 4.6? 21.10.56 # er, um, cygwin, whatever pondlife was doing 21.14.21 # So, I need a Cygwin to MinGW gcc 4.6 cross-compiler. I guess I'll have to compile it myself? 21.16.31 # dreamlayers: try weakref 21.16.43 # and tdm-gcc should have gcc 4.6 prepackaged 21.20.32 # TDM-GCC seems to be a MinGW compiler, and I'd need a Cygwin to MinGW cross-compiler. 21.20.58 # i don't understand 21.21.18 # it runs on windows so what's the problem? 21.21.33 Join AlexP_mob [0] (~AlexP@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 21.22.35 # If the build runs in Cygwin and calls a MinGW compiler, then the compiler won't understand the Cygwin paths. 21.23.11 Join lorenzo92 [0] (~chatzilla@host217-110-dynamic.30-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 21.23.14 # jhMikeS: re 31180, what do you think of a config-ams.h included by all ams models? 21.23.17 # I don't think it's possible to build Rockbox from MinGW. There are some patches in the tracker but they didn't get accepted. 21.23.23 # lorenzo92: mind if i pm you ? 21.23.34 # go ;) 21.23.36 # dreamlayers: i build it with mingw (on linux) 21.25.18 # funman: You want me to try it in Windows, from within Cygwin, right? 21.25.58 # well any setup will work, as long as you confirm weakref works 21.26.24 # not sure igf tdm-gcc comes with a shell 21.29.06 # funman: might be a good idea 21.30.16 # probably for more than just AMS models too, some sort of SoC-related config, define the exception by model if any 21.30.40 # funman: I can install a MinGW-w64 4.6.0 cross-compiler in Linux. Is that ok to for this test? 21.33.20 Quit saratoga (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 21.35.04 # yep 21.35.09 # but i tested it already 21.36.14 # i just want to know what fixes sim build for you :) using weakref worked for me, so i supposed you needed to upgrade your gcc if it didn't work for you 21.42.27 # sansa clip looks like it needs to boost more aggressively when recording (get warning 00000001 far too easily) 21.43.34 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: Bye ;)) 21.45.09 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@g231123231.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.45.09 Quit bluebrother (Changing host) 21.45.09 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 21.45.38 # do you have other amsv1 ? 21.47.06 # nope 21.47.11 Quit ungali (Quit: CGI:IRC) 21.47.35 # it ought to have more than enough power to do 44kHz mp3 21.48.45 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.48.54 Quit bluebrother^ (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 21.49.04 # perhaps it's because it doesn't use DMA anymore? 21.49.35 # much slower chips manage 21.50.19 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g231123231.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.51.37 # maybe I should just test with boost on all the time 21.54.44 # now 44kHz is running the hardware at 88kHz to get the true 44kHz signal, where before it was running it at 44kHz, getting doubled-up 22kHz 21.55.56 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@91-65-137-216-dynip.superkabel.de) 21.56.34 Quit AlexP_mob (Quit: Bye) 21.58.43 Quit lxs-makot0 (Quit: Lost terminal) 21.58.48 # running it boosted all the time works...but, only 16 pcm chunks exist 22.02.46 # hmmm, available PCM data can never be enough to trigger the boost 22.03.02 # it's set a 1s but the buffer is only ~.75s 22.05.51 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-76-160-35.dynamic.chello.pl) 22.07.17 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 22.07.18 Join bluebrother^ [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 22.08.02 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@149.254.61.232) 22.08.25 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.09.59 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g224236117.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.11.41 Quit Stummi (Quit: Bye!) 22.16.43 Join Thra11_ [0] (~thrall@87.115.4.46) 22.20.21 Quit Thra11 (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 22.23.55 # New commit by 03dreamlayers (r31182): FS#12418 - Merge prototypes from ata-target.h files into new file ata-driver.h. After this change: ... 22.24.52 Part alienkid10 ("QUIT :bye") 22.25.57 # r31182 build result: All green 22.30.24 # funman: I'll try to compile a gcc 4.6.2 cygwin to mingw cross-compiler in windows tonight 22.30.41 # New commit by 03jethead71 (r31183): Add a second boost condition to the recording PCM buffer to boost the CPU when 75% full or more. This is especially important for small memory when ... 22.31.48 # Is there any interest in being able to build from within mingw? FS#10021 FS#10437 22.31.49 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10021 3Patch to build Rockbox firmware by using MinGW.  (patches, unconfirmed) 22.31.49 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/10437 3Build failure the uisimulator using MinGW. (bugs, unconfirmed) 22.32.20 # r31183 build result: All green 22.32.25 Quit Llorean (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.33.16 # the clip seems to record 48kHz wavpack just fine now, which is the most cpu-intensive compressor 22.35.18 Quit dreamlayers (Quit: I'll be back tonight) 22.37.05 # * jhMikeS wonders why PCM error flags should be in pcm.h and not pcm_record.h because they're not part of general pcm, but of the core recording system 22.40.00 # hmmm...Zagor done it 22.42.19 # PCMREC_* should go in pcm_record.h, and leave DMA_REC_ERROR_* in pcm.h where he put them 22.45.55 # New commit by 03jethead71 (r31184): Move the PCMREC_E/W_* defines back to pcm_record.h because they're part of the recording engine interface. Leave the low-level DMA error defines in ... 22.46.44 # kugel: putting 32 instead of 16 as the coeff for the buffer_size seem to fix the problem for the CPU 22.48.29 # r31184 build result: All green 22.48.38 # lorenzo92: cool 22.49.21 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.49.41 # kugel: more or less 70% of cpu load while decoding an mp3 22.49.47 # @ 200 mhz 22.49.54 # can you still compare against the non-USE_ASYNC_CALLBACK? I'm really unsure which mode is better for the cpu 22.50.24 # need to comment out USE_ASYNC_CALLBACK? 22.51.25 # yea 22.51.36 # kugel: any idea about why it doesnt give any sign of life here ? 22.52.08 # lorenzo92: don't give *too* much on the CPU load there. it includes many other factors than just music playback, like drawing the UI 22.52.43 # kugel: oh yes sure indeed ;) 22.52.50 # was to compare ... 22.55.02 # kugel: okay now running NON async thing :D 22.55.12 # will inform you soon 22.55.49 # kugel: definitely buggy. now playback stopped for no reason 22.56.52 Join fml [0] (~chatzilla@manz-5f749bab.pool.mediaWays.net) 22.58.14 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 22.58.14 # kugel: in the cpu debug screen would be nice also to see the cpu frequency 22.58.27 # it's a linux feature, so should be okay 22.59.12 # JdGordon: Hello! You have again "broken" the description of the shortcuts. You've used the "what is it" form, but the paragraph has the form "With a shortcut, " and then "this and that can be done". I can't correct that right now. Could you? 22.59.16 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r31185): Various adjustments for MSVC. ... 23.00.18 # JdGordon: Also, the closing quotation marks are wrong. They should be typed as '' (a single apostroph two times) and not as ``. 23.00.34 Join kadoban [0] (~kadoban@ip98-165-177-158.ph.ph.cox.net) 23.00.57 # r31185 build result: All green 23.01.12 Join low_light [0] (~chatzilla@ip72-219-32-144.br.br.cox.net) 23.02.38 # kugel: re-tested NON async cb, now I got also a player crash. Definitely not the right way ;) 23.03.52 # fml: don't scare JdGordon away from doing any work on the manual at all ;) 23.04.26 # pixelma: :-) But seriously, it's not quite right as of now. 23.05.21 Join lovasoa [0] (~olojkine@78.251.10.217) 23.09.25 Join TomColler [0] (~thomas@net-93-144-139-101.cust.dsl.teletu.it) 23.14.49 Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.19.13 Quit gbl08ma_ (Quit: Saindo) 23.19.57 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@rockbox/user/Llorean) 23.23.12 Quit fml (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 8.0/20111104165243]) 23.23.46 # fml: (ah damit too slow) wont be able to fix it till tommroow night, sorry 23.27.29 Nick kugel is now known as kugelp (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 23.28.05 # how easy is it to make generic talk clips? 23.28.45 # lorenzo92: governor stats should be easy to add 23.29.44 # yes it's just reading a file...anyway you need to place 32 instead of 16 and the cpu load seem normal now hehe 23.29.46 # trying to figure out how to make the shortcuts menu talk, do i spell each line? or try using the filename voiceclips systme to all the user to provide clips for each line? 23.30.02 # the non async mode works on my laptop and is actually supposed to be safer 23.30.23 # kugelp: uhm safer...uhm...it only crashes :( 23.30.26 # honestly it sounds funny that decoding mp3 takes 70% of arm @200 MHz 23.31.54 # download.rockbox.org sends ~340GB an average month to 30000-45000 unique visitors/month 23.32.35 # total? or just the haxx mirror? 23.32.37 # in november 2011, the most popular target download was sansaclipplus with 8600 downloads 23.32.41 # in total 23.32.46 # quite impressive 23.32.47 # we have no mirrors atm 23.32.57 # * JdGordon smells a blog post coming :) 23.33.03 # go sansa clip plus! 23.33.11 # yeah, I should sum it up... 23.33.17 # B4gder: was there a stable target without downloads? 23.33.27 # the fonts package: 24500 downloads ... 23.34.12 # B4gder: do we have the user agent for those downloads? I'd be interested in seeing how much downloads had been done using Rockbox Utility :) 23.34.28 # wodz: yes strange indeed. I'm not expert at all in these things, but you need to consider that ARM optimizations aren't enabled yet 23.34.39 Join CaptainKewler [0] (~cf57a9a2@www.haxx.se) 23.34.39 Join Scromple [0] (~Simon@115-64-195-104.static.tpgi.com.au) 23.34.39 # but shouldn't use 70% anyway uhm uhm 23.34.43 # bluebrother^: the silly stats program we have puts them in the "unknown" category 23.35.07 # 42% downloads from unknown browsers 23.35.13 # B4gder: iiuc http://downloads.videolan.org/pub/rockbox/ should mirror automatically 23.35.17 # hmm, that's less than I expected. 23.35.23 # 270000 "hits" 23.35.41 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 23.35.58 # funman: yes, its just that we currently only point download.rockbox.org to the haxx server 23.37.20 # gevaerts: I don't know, and I found there's a problem with the stats right now so I can't easily find out right now 23.38.24 Quit thegeek (Quit: ( www.nnscript.com :: NoNameScript 4.2 :: www.regroup-esports.com )) 23.38.47 # as a comparison www.rockbox.org had 124000 unique visitors during November 23.40.06 # * bluebrother^ considers giving the LZMA / xz SDK a look 23.48.14 Quit CaptainKewler (Quit: CGI:IRC) 23.49.27 # funny how such a small an inexpensive player as the sansa clip plus turns out to be the most popular :) 23.51.19 # it still being in production might help as well :) 23.53.33 # bertrik: well by being small and inexpensive (and with total crap for the stock firmware), it has the most to gain from rockbox 23.53.47 # you can drop $50 and you have a fully capable rockbox that takes microsd cards 23.55.38 # not to mention this cheapest of all rockboxable players probably has the most solid audio performance 23.55.45 Quit ender` (Quit: Our chances of being caught by the RIAA or IFPI are somewhat less than being hit by lightning - or choking on a wasabi-flavoured peanut. -- TheRegister) 23.55.59 Quit lorenzo92 (Remote host closed the connection) 23.56.37 Quit wodz (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.57.21 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 23.58.40 Join lorenzo92 [0] (~chatzilla@host217-110-dynamic.30-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it)