--- Log for 16.12.111 Server: wolfe.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 4 days and 0 hours ago 00.00.27 # * the-kyle checked out and built r31290. Something in the update fixed the recording problem I mentioned earlier. I'm glad I didn't write that bug report. 00.02.01 # did I break scrolling or something? 00.05.40 Join dreamlayers [0] (~bgjenero@rockbox/developer/dreamlayers) 00.07.13 # New commit by 03jethead71 (r31311): Collect some of the memory frame LCD C code. ... 00.07.17 # fml: the problem was that usb storage code will try to set the time even if there's no rtc. 00.09.07 # r31311 build result: 6 errors, 3 warnings (jethead71 committed) 00.18.46 # * rarog is waiting for "fixing red" 00.19.22 Quit Thra11 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 00.20.12 Quit ender` (Quit: Anyone with a bit of common sense should see through the ploy. Unfortunately, this is testimony before Congress. -- Mike Masnick (TechDirt)) 00.20.15 # jhMikeS: ? 00.23.28 # coming 00.24.36 Quit keyb_gr (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 00.24.36 # New commit by 03jethead71 (r31312): Fix r31311 red and yellow. 00.26.26 # r31312 build result: All green 00.27.24 # * jhMikeS chuckles that e200v1 is still listed as LCD_X5 :D 00.27.28 # jhMikeS: thanks 00.27.31 # yeah .. 00.27.39 # it's _nothing_ like the x5 00.28.00 # it's all like copy pasting stuff and trying to understand it later :/ 00.28.33 # they switched to CPP a long time ago (copy-pasta porting) 00.28.40 # :) 00.29.07 # I see that USB is now enabled by default on Clip+. Will it be enabled in the bootloader in the near future, so that the Clip+ no longer boots to OFW just by plugging in a USB cable? 00.29.10 # yeah we discuss the hwcodec fork but we have a lot of forks inside the single repo 00.29.13 # New commit by 03funman (r31313): factorize common PP files 00.29.29 # the-kyle: yes when it gets enough testing so we're sure it works correctly 00.29.36 # Thanks. 00.30.04 # funman just wanted the 31313 palindrome commit 00.30.07 # So far, it's working great here for a little over a week. 00.30.19 # New commit by 03jdgordon (r31314): OOPS, style got lost in scrolling lines with r31247, so put it back 00.30.32 # good jonathan! 00.30.32 # :) 00.30.37 # * JdGordon likes easy fixes 00.30.59 # r31313 build result: All green 00.31.17 # wow i got the lucky number 00.32.21 # does LCD_TYPE really get used for anything much? 00.32.28 # *CONFIG_LCD 00.32.56 # r31314 build result: All green 00.33.11 # jhMikeS: yeah, in firmware/SOURCES , nothing else afaik 00.33.11 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@250.0.113.87.dyn.plus.net) 00.33.36 # jhMikeS: only sometimes though 00.33.53 # for now i focused on the files which are included multiple times 00.34.16 # LCD_X5 might be noot used for example 00.34.55 # apps/plugins/doom/i_video.c:#elif (CONFIG_LCD == LCD_X5) && !defined(SIMULATOR) \ 00.35.05 # I added some multi-includes 'cause proper defines didn't exist. More abstract sorts might be more useful 00.35.19 # && defined(CPU_COLDFIRE) /* protect from using it on e200 (sic!) */ 00.35.22 # mouarf 00.36.25 # I suspect a taget knows what it should have deep down, but things like memory framebuffer display is a whole class of hardware design 00.37.31 Quit dreamlayers (Quit: power failure) 00.38.56 # jhMikeS: do bits-armv4.S need to be written in asm ? 00.40.12 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 00.40.25 # to make it as tight as possible 00.41.13 # how much bytes are we talking here? 00.41.53 # what do you mean? 00.42.09 # i mean a C code should not be that big that it matters 00.42.32 # i see it's used on these targets/cpus : IMX233 AS3525(v2) GIGABEATF MROBE500 ZVM CONNECT COWON S5L87 MINI244 00.42.35 # not so much a size thing as cutting instructions 00.42.39 # wondering if it could just be unconditional 00.42.53 # ah you mean while the interrupts are disabled? 00.43.16 Join dreamlayers [0] (~bgjenero@rockbox/developer/dreamlayers) 00.43.33 # i'll see what gcc gives 00.43.50 # and making sure that things aren't moved in funny ways 00.44.21 Quit rarog (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [SeaMonkey 2.4.1/20111011102430]) 00.45.20 # i am tempted to build it unconditionally on arm anyway 00.45.37 # that would mean that -ffunction-sections wouldn't work with it though 00.47.49 # it is 52 instructions = 208 bytes 00.50.48 Quit ender| (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 00.50.52 # ah btw the list i gave was for armv4 mmu, not bits-armv4 00.51.32 Join limescout [0] (~david@c-69-242-30-52.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 00.52.45 # * jhMikeS tries something on a longshot 00.55.56 # New commit by 03funman (r31315): bits-armv4.S: build on arm < 6 00.56.08 # New commit by 03funman (r31316): factorize build of mmu-arm.S (for armv4/5) 00.57.43 # r31315 build result: All green 00.59.30 # r31316 build result: 112 errors, 0 warnings (funman committed) 01.02.52 Join ender| [0] (~ender1@foo.eternallybored.org) 01.03.22 # New commit by 03funman (r31317): Fix mmu-arm.S selection 01.03.34 # New commit by 03funman (r31318): Factorize ipod mini common code 01.05.31 # r31317 build result: All green 01.07.16 # r31318 build result: All green 01.07.16 # heh 01.07.47 # change .section to be .text. in the .asm and it discards them 01.09.10 # yep 01.09.12 # *if* -ffunction-sections is on 01.09.28 # i think we just miss a few KEEP in .lds files 01.09.30 # New commit by 03dreamlayers (r31319): Remove USB time sync code when there's no RTC. ... 01.09.32 # before turning that on 01.09.39 # dreamlayers: that's it, right? 01.09.56 # funman: yeah, and I can easily add those 01.10.19 # so, I guess .asm files aren't a problem in that case 01.10.36 Quit Thra11 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 01.11.03 # Oh, also wildcards in rom.lds. You need .text* not .text 01.11.41 # r31319 build result: All green 01.12.45 # jhMikeS: you're right 01.14.18 # i removed 305 lines of that file 01.14.20 # I did test it! :) 01.14.40 # Did know if it would work but it did, happily. 01.14.43 Quit ntrly_owl (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 01.14.43 # *didn't 01.15.49 # jhMikeS: there is no red in the table for r31315 :o 01.16.56 # I think if *no* functions are referenced in the asm, as they are currently, then it won't include the file at all 01.18.56 # for it to cherry pick routines to keep with -ffunction-sections, it needs the modified .section attribute 01.18.57 Quit anewuser () 01.19.53 # jhMikeS: that's what I observed 01.21.14 # New commit by 03funman (r31320): factorize build of ipod files 01.21.23 # i was thinking about using automake but i don't know if it can be used without autoconf (which we don't need at all) 01.22.17 Join anewuser [0] (~anewuser@186.93.143.113) 01.22.17 Quit anewuser (Changing host) 01.22.17 Join anewuser [0] (~anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 01.23.30 # r31320 build result: All green 01.25.19 # Are the linker scripts messy, or are they dealing with buggy linkers? 01.25.56 # Some things don't make sense, like something inside KEEP() followed by the same thing without KEEP(). 01.27.13 # Another example is *(.text) followed by *(.text*). In one place there's a comment that it's necessary with .rodata. 01.27.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.27.17 # I've seen a few funny comments 01.28.08 # i dont think we deal with buggy linkers 01.28.10 # I suspect it's more that most of us learn how to write linker scripts by copying likely-looking bits and making random changes until things seem to work 01.28.31 # in any way we can either patch or update the linker (but that should be done with much parcimony i guess) 01.28.42 # yeah that's more likely 01.31.30 # I used to think linker scripts were mysterious, but they're actually quite simple. 01.31.45 # What's all these "factorize" commits? Someone help the noob? 01.35.17 # soap: trying to define under which conditions the files are built 01.35.22 # factoring is hard 01.35.29 # instead of listing all the files for each target 01.36.53 # soap: i would like to change some bits of the build system so this was the introduction 01.37.32 # How is your factorizing different than just ifdeffing it all into little boxes? 01.37.42 # ? 01.37.53 # I guess I don't understand what it does. 01.38.08 # what do you mean? 01.38.33 # give me a day to read and make a more intelligent question about how this works different than what was happening before. 01.38.45 # it works the same 01.39.31 # it used to be the way we're changing it back to....which was ultimately a nightmare and I got thanked for making it the was is was up until hours ago. :) 01.39.43 # oh? 01.40.28 # It was more based upon general conditions 01.41.13 # you remember when that change happened? 01.45.03 # i had changed plugins 1 year 1/2 ago 01.48.00 # I guess it wasn't so much so. it did have alot of crazy conditions and SIMULATOR checks 01.48.19 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng162.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 01.48.54 Join ntrly_ow [0] (~david@c122-108-93-161.sunsh1.vic.optusnet.com.au) 01.49.53 # the most complex parts must be firmware/SOURCES and plugin bitmaps 01.50.15 # only r11468 I think was when I messed with it alot 01.50.25 Part ntrly_ow 01.51.42 # anyway, getting some rest! see you 01.51.48 # goodnight 02.09.20 Quit dreamlayers (Quit: bye) 02.11.12 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@f048163184.adsl.alicedsl.de) 02.13.23 Join antil33t [0] (~Ahurhurr@101.98.150.103) 02.13.45 Quit Topy44 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.27.11 Join Scr0mple [0] (~Simon@119.225.209.134) 02.28.55 Part toffe82 02.30.36 Quit Scromple (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 02.50.11 Join remlap [0] (~Patrick@190.28.169.217.in-addr.arpa) 02.51.53 Join anewuser_ [0] (~anewuser@186.93.143.113) 02.52.07 Part remlap 02.52.22 Join remlap [0] (~Patrick@190.28.169.217.in-addr.arpa) 02.54.10 Quit anewuser (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 03.11.25 Quit T44 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03.13.39 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@g228167157.adsl.alicedsl.de) 03.19.29 Part the-kyle ("PING 1324001961") 03.27.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.31.23 Join Keripo1 [0] (~Keripo@eng162.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 03.31.24 Quit Keripo (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 03.34.55 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng162.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 03.35.32 Quit Keripo1 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 03.59.23 # Hey guys! I'm working on my first plugin, but I can't get it to show up in the simulator menu. I've done exactly as it says on the "how to write plugins" wiki page 04.02.16 # did you do make install? 04.02.34 # yes 04.05.29 # did you add it to apps/plugins/CATEGORIES? 04.06.13 # yes, as fencingref,apps 04.07.16 # and that isnt in .rockbox/rockbox/apps? 04.07.21 # you sure its being compiled? 04.08.33 # yes, I got it. A little typo in catagories didn't match up with the filename 04.08.49 # thanks! 04.09.28 # :) 04.10.41 Quit limescout (Quit: Leaving.) 04.10.57 # Good morning, looking forward to putting a stable release on my sansa clip+ 04.11.06 Join limescout [0] (~david@c-69-242-30-52.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 04.17.51 Join Topy [0] (~Topy44@f048164149.adsl.alicedsl.de) 04.18.21 # I thought clip+ had been stable for a long while 04.20.06 Quit T44 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 04.20.10 Join saratoga [0] (9803c31c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.195.28) 04.26.21 Quit TheSeven (Disconnected by services) 04.26.36 Join [7] [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.34.04 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.34.05 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.34.27 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.35.04 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.35.06 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.35.09 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.44.05 Join dys`` [0] (~andreas@krlh-4d02bb90.pool.mediaWays.net) 04.45.31 Quit dys` (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 05.04.09 Quit mgue (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 05.04.43 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@g228171255.adsl.alicedsl.de) 05.05.06 Join mgue [0] (~mgue@p57B3D5F3.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.07.32 Quit Topy (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 05.19.43 Join Rob2223 [0] (~Miranda@p4FFF21AF.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.23.01 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 05.27.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.33.10 Part limescout 05.35.13 Quit ps-auxw (Remote host closed the connection) 05.38.35 Join ps-auxw [0] (~arneb@p4FF7F907.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.40.07 Quit Horscht (Quit: Verlassend) 05.51.38 Join Topy [0] (~Topy44@g228162149.adsl.alicedsl.de) 05.54.51 Quit T44 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 06.17.04 Quit Rob2223 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.17.20 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FFF21AF.dip.t-dialin.net) 06.31.33 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 07.27.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.33.03 Join remlap1 [0] (~Patrick@190.28.169.217.in-addr.arpa) 07.33.09 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54A3A682.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.34.46 Quit remlap (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 07.54.30 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 08.06.06 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 08.08.27 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 08.08.27 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 08.08.27 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 08.13.44 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 08.13.59 Quit Buschel (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 8.0/20111104165243]) 08.14.52 Quit nomada (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 08.18.09 Join GodEater_ [0] (93722cd1@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 08.33.59 Quit Scr0mple (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.48.25 Quit saratoga (Quit: Page closed) 08.53.06 Nick dys`` is now known as dys (~andreas@krlh-4d02bb90.pool.mediaWays.net) 08.57.46 Join ender` [0] (~ender@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.59.54 Join nick-p [0] (~nick@82-69-105-120.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) 09.01.56 Quit ender` (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.02.10 Join ender` [0] (~ender@foo.eternallybored.org) 09.07.53 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.23.06 Quit Topy (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09.23.47 Quit kadoban_ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 09.27.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.28.53 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@f048037199.adsl.alicedsl.de) 09.54.52 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@91.125.242.184) 09.59.26 Quit Topy44 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10.01.01 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@g228173144.adsl.alicedsl.de) 10.07.41 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10.15.23 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 10.15.23 Quit fs-bluebot (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10.15.25 Join bluebrother^ [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 10.20.20 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g224237052.adsl.alicedsl.de) 10.22.47 Quit mc2739 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10.22.57 # I'm preparing to commit FS#12419 and had a couple of questions; 10.22.59 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12419 3Support for embedded cuesheets. (patches, unconfirmed) 10.22.59 # 1) Applying it to a Sansa e200v2 (what I'm testing against) increases the rockbox.bin size by 856 bytes, is that excessive? 10.23.02 # 2) I was hoping a kind soul would have a quick look through the last patch on the page, 10.23.05 # to see if I've made any rookie mistakes that would break other targets, or if I'm squandering resources (especially if the answer to 1 is yes). 10.23.14 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 10.23.27 # nick-p: 856 bytes seems reasonable for an actual feature 10.23.51 # gevaerts: phew, I've been trying to shave off bytes for a while now 10.24.56 Join factor [0] (~factor@74.197.205.204) 10.34.40 Quit bluefoxx (Quit: quitcycle for variable save/reload) 10.34.58 Join bluefoxx [0] (fuzzylomba@S0106e0cb4e0a6d8a.vs.shawcable.net) 10.44.13 Quit Thra11 (Quit: kthxbai) 10.44.26 Quit Topy44 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10.46.27 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@f049013029.adsl.alicedsl.de) 10.48.12 Join pamaury [0] (~pamaury@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.03.32 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@84.93.175.53) 11.09.07 # oh well, here goes... 11.09.43 # New commit by 03nick_p (r31321): FS #12419 : Support for embedded cuesheets. 11.12.47 # r31321 build result: 122 errors, 4 warnings (nick_p committed) 11.13.08 # bugger. ok, bear with me... 11.13.13 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@f049182038.adsl.alicedsl.de) 11.13.57 # nick-p: given yesterday's red average, 122 errors isn't *that* bad :) 11.14.24 # And of course you're not anywhere near the entries on http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/BuildHighScores 11.15.26 Quit Topy44 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11.22.23 # how to deal with debouncing GIO? I guess long delays inside signal handler are no-do 11.22.35 # (signal = interrupt) 11.23.32 # desowin: use a timeout 11.23.42 # see how it's handled in sd for example 11.24.22 # New commit by 03nick_p (r31322): Fix red? 11.26.59 # r31322 build result: All green 11.27.27 # well that was nerve racking... 11.27.33 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.29.31 # nick-p: in the end it pays to have all toolchains installed ;) 11.29.59 # gevaerts: wise words! 11.30.01 # nick-p: and I guess it answered your question about breaking other targets :-) 11.30.37 # ukleinek: bloody unused or is it mpeg.c 11.45.21 # pamaury: I didn't realize kernel supports timeout, thanks 11.46.29 # desowin: it's no compiled in for some targets but since you probably already use it for sd... 11.47.11 Join Topy [0] (~Topy44@f049143210.adsl.alicedsl.de) 11.50.27 Quit T44 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 12.20.39 # New commit by 03desowin (r31323): Sansa Connect: Disable USB clocks when disconnected. 12.23.10 # r31323 build result: All green 12.27.14 # Guinness: Sorry for late reply the Clip the website said it wasn't stable? 12.27.22 # clip+ 12.27.58 # wait I meant clip zip 12.28.01 # tired as heck 12.35.28 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 12.35.28 Quit remlap1 (Quit: Leaving.) 12.35.40 Join remlap [0] (~Patrick@190.28.169.217.in-addr.arpa) 12.44.45 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@g228143229.adsl.alicedsl.de) 12.47.19 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 12.47.34 Quit Topy (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12.50.14 Quit MethoS- (Remote host closed the connection) 13.01.04 # Connect's OF somehow deals without IMGBUF clk (we need it for DSP to work) 13.01.31 Quit nick-p (Quit: Leaving) 13.21.18 Quit Thra11 (Quit: kthxbai) 13.27.35 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.43.17 Part pamaury 13.44.31 # since recently when skipping a track/starting a new track a klicking sound is heared (more left than right) - any ideas what could cause that? 13.45.05 Join rarog [0] (~chatzilla@p4FF5CB9C.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.45.14 Quit lmh (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13.45.27 # Torne: could you please sync git with svn again. :) 13.45.51 # i am using a clip+ with a r313xx rockbox 13.47.25 Join lmh [0] (lmh@nat/redhat/x-akwpetrhgkztlaee) 14.00.14 Join nick-p [0] (~nick@82-69-105-120.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) 14.09.06 Quit T44 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.11.13 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@g228143229.adsl.alicedsl.de) 14.31.57 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@66.251.199.43) 14.33.17 Join Strife1989 [0] (~Strife89@66.251.199.43) 14.35.50 Quit Strife1989 (Client Quit) 14.39.06 Quit mystica555_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.39.56 Join WalkGood [0] (~4@unaffiliated/walkgood) 14.41.05 Join mystica555_ [0] (~Mike@71-211-210-11.hlrn.qwest.net) 14.54.53 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Every time you make a typo, the errorists win.) 14.55.05 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@66.251.199.43) 15.00.27 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~LemonBoy@adsl-ull-108-204.50-151.net24.it) 15.02.47 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 15.24.54 Join dfkt [0] (~dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 15.24.58 Join dfkt_ [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 15.26.01 Quit dfkt_ (Client Quit) 15.27.38 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.28.51 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15.29.35 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@66.251.201.189) 15.31.53 Quit GodEater_ () 15.50.35 Join dfkt|x [0] (~dfkt@chello062178002170.1.11.univie.teleweb.at) 15.50.35 Quit dfkt|x (Changing host) 15.50.35 Join dfkt|x [0] (~dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 15.52.52 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! 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Bersirc 2.2: less n00bs [ http://www.bersirc.org/ - Open Source IRC ]) 17.19.04 Join kadoban_ [0] (~kadoban@ip98-165-177-158.ph.ph.cox.net) 17.19.37 Join thegeek [0] (~thegeek@87.37.34.95.customer.cdi.no) 17.20.52 Join blindwanderer [0] (~ad485066@www.haxx.se) 17.25.00 # SynrG: I have no idea if there are conventions for fmr files, but I'd say that it's easier to remove things after downloading than to add things 17.25.09 # So I'd say add all data you have 17.25.37 Quit blindwanderer (Client Quit) 17.27.40 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.30.20 Join y4n [0] (y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 17.37.00 # * Mir is getting annoyed at the play all tracks feature 17.37.28 # instead of doing it by track number it plays the tracks by alphabetical order 17.37.34 # this pisses me off 17.37.58 # You should use the database then 17.38.11 # gevaerts: this is via the database 17.38.22 # go to artist choose nevermore 17.38.28 # play all tracks 17.38.42 # IT DOES IT BY ALPABETICAL ORDER!!!! 17.38.44 # >:( 17.38.55 # its no different than Shuffle 17.39.23 # and i 4HATE 1Shuffle 17.40.30 # this makes listening to more than one album by an artist miserable 17.41.12 # if i want to listen to the entire discogrophy of led zeppelin it does so alphabeticly 17.41.15 # grrrr 17.41.46 # * gevaerts suspects that Mir wants to look into tagnavi_custom.config 17.42.12 # o.o 17.42.32 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/DataBase#tagnavi.config_v2.0_Syntax 17.42.34 Join CaptainKewl [0] (captainkew@207-237-110-248.c3-0.nyr-ubr2.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 17.42.43 # I can't help much more though. I don't use the database 17.45.15 Join lorenzo92 [0] (~chatzilla@host26-169-dynamic.245-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 17.50.51 # gevaerts: ah. then i might produce a pair of them. one to upload, one for use on my player with information removed. 17.51.11 # Region seems redundant to me though, in a regional fmr ... 17.51.18 # or are people merging these? 17.51.26 # * gevaerts has no idea 17.51.49 # is this a topic that should be discussed in a broader forum, then? 17.51.55 Quit lorenzo92 (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [Firefox 8.0/20111115183813]) 17.52.23 # i'll tell you what i'm using as data though, the wikipedia list of channels for my region. 17.52.45 # supplementing that with info from the individual radio station web sites, if the wikipedia page is missing anything 17.53.03 # (though arguably, when that happens, i should just update the wikipedia page. hmm) 17.53.35 # this could all be automated with a scraper script 17.56.52 # then rather than hand-crafting and distributing these, the user points the script at a wikipedia page for their region, selects a format string, and hey-presto, instant .fmr with *just* what the user wants in it 17.57.53 # hmm. sadly, branding is missing 17.58.01 # see 1l homo milk 17.58.01 # 3x cream cheese 17.58.07 # arrgh, mispaste :) 17.58.25 # see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_radio_stations_in_Nova_Scotia for example 17.58.37 # and speaking of which. out for shopping. later 17.59.19 # this isnt a complaint 17.59.33 # but i cant get any radiostations on my clip or C240 17.59.38 Join jlbiasini [0] (~metaphys@d86-32-96-55.cust.tele2.at) 17.59.41 # its not an issues with rockbox 18.00.01 # i cant get any radiostations on my Areial either when i had one :) 18.05.27 # * gevaerts would like to point out that we do take the topic seriously in this channel 18.14.35 # oh, i remember now. the individual radio station pages had branding 18.18.02 # jlbiasini: ah, you uploaded my bootloader now... would you mind to bump the percentage of SD implementation to something higher? :D 18.20.06 # I think you should rather ask for writing right on the wiki. I cannot give them as I'm also a beginner here. But I'm working on the rockbox utility now 18.20.42 # anyway how do we have sd now? I thought there were still the booting issue? 18.21.16 Join WalkGood_ [0] (~4@adsl-184-32-42-44.mia.bellsouth.net) 18.21.16 Quit WalkGood_ (Changing host) 18.21.16 Join WalkGood_ [0] (~4@unaffiliated/walkgood) 18.21.28 Quit WalkGood (Disconnected by services) 18.21.33 Nick WalkGood_ is now known as WalkGood (~4@unaffiliated/walkgood) 18.23.33 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@vit94-1-82-67-248-70.fbx.proxad.net) 18.23.33 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 18.23.33 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 18.33.55 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 19.01.23 # jlbiasini: paumary did the checkin yest 19.01.27 # erday 19.01.43 # and for me it didn't produdce any error at all 19.01.48 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: Bye ;)) 19.02.02 # and now it also offers me the internal storage and cd card when plugged in to usb. 19.02.17 # so paumary seems to have done some more success. 19.03.11 # The v3 bootloader in the bug report has sd support inside and latest daily build has it, too. 19.04.05 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@p5DD577D1.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.04.05 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 19.04.05 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 19.04.30 # yes, one need to update the bootloader to have bootloader usb with sd, otherwise one will need to plug usb after the boot 19.05.54 Part jlbiasini 19.06.31 Quit nick-p (Quit: Leaving) 19.14.43 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@genkt-050-078.t-mobile.co.uk) 19.19.31 Quit robin0800 (Client Quit) 19.23.55 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@genkt-050-078.t-mobile.co.uk) 19.27.44 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.32.06 Quit robin0800 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 19.32.32 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@91-65-137-216-dynip.superkabel.de) 19.35.05 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r31324): ipodpatcher: convert to use libtools.make. ... 19.36.39 Join Stummi [0] (~Stummi@rockbox/developer/Stummi) 19.37.19 # r31324 build result: All green 19.38.46 # * bluebrother^ wonders why libmkamsboot has a problem building as universal library and others do not 19.43.21 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@149.254.49.222) 19.47.34 Join webguest12 [0] (~cfb5eb0a@www.haxx.se) 19.48.54 Quit robin0800 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 19.54.41 Quit webguest12 (Quit: CGI:IRC) 19.54.45 Join webguest61 [0] (~cfb5eb0a@www.haxx.se) 19.57.46 Join skip252 [0] (~skip252@207-181-235-10.c3-0.mct-ubr1.chi-mct.il.cable.rcn.com) 19.59.40 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r31325): mkamsboot: fix building as universal library. 20.01.42 # arr, stuff gets automagically defined somehwere else than my config file 20.01.52 # r31325 build result: All green 20.02.07 Quit webguest61 (Quit: CGI:IRC) 20.03.25 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 20.05.07 Join Buschel [0] (~chatzilla@p54A39A24.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.06.29 Quit Buschel (Client Quit) 20.11.30 Join jlbiasini [0] (~metaphys@d86-32-96-55.cust.tele2.at) 20.11.51 Join WalkGood_ [0] (~4@adsl-184-32-40-238.mia.bellsouth.net) 20.11.51 Quit WalkGood_ (Changing host) 20.11.51 Join WalkGood_ [0] (~4@unaffiliated/walkgood) 20.12.01 Quit WalkGood (Disconnected by services) 20.12.06 Nick WalkGood_ is now known as WalkGood (~4@unaffiliated/walkgood) 20.13.04 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@149.254.61.157) 20.19.14 Quit dreamlayers (Quit: Leaving) 20.19.21 Nick bluefoxx is now known as Az|Out (fuzzylomba@S0106e0cb4e0a6d8a.vs.shawcable.net) 20.21.54 Quit robin0800 (Ping timeout: 268 seconds) 20.24.44 # I've got a question regarding the find_address utility: The example given seems to give some assembler's code as result. I never get those on my query. Is there any explanation for that? At the end of the example it says: "Don't forget to build with -g" what do I have to buid this way? -g doesn't seems to be an options for the configure script... 20.25.42 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-76-160-35.dynamic.chello.pl) 20.26.39 Quit Topy44 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 20.28.58 # pamaury: Am I right that your symbol patch works only for f+? 20.29.08 # wodz: yes but it's trivial to adapt 20.30.27 # pamaury: how big is symbol table (aka binsize impact)? 20.30.49 Quit jlbiasini (Remote host closed the connection) 20.32.26 # wodz: ~40Kib 20.32.26 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@f049164103.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.34.14 Quit rarog (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.87 [SeaMonkey 2.4.1/20111011102430]) 20.34.20 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r31326): Rockbox Utility: use libipodpatcher. ... 20.36.42 # r31326 build result: All green 20.36.48 Join jlbiasini [0] (~metaphys@d86-32-96-55.cust.tele2.at) 20.40.08 # hey guys 20.40.09 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@165.123.49.223) 20.41.16 # on the Clip Zip with my theme, when I enable hold, I get the message "buttons locked" then it disappears but remains in the background (where I put no viewport I guess); Is that a bug? 20.43.05 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@149.254.61.37) 20.52.05 # i think that theres a better way to disable storage other than setting CONFIG_STORAGE to 0 20.52.08 Quit robin0800 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 20.53.22 # TheLemonMan: why do you want to disable storage? 20.54.06 # im trying to write some preliminary code for this board and dont really need it atm 20.54.25 # You could use the ramdisk 20.55.33 Quit jlbiasini (Remote host closed the connection) 20.56.12 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@149.254.60.37) 20.56.19 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 20.56.19 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 20.56.19 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 20.56.42 # oh, right, got it 20.57.11 Join jlbiasini [0] (~metaphys@d86-32-96-55.cust.tele2.at) 21.00.19 # hello bertrik : on the Clip Zip with my theme, when I enable hold, I get the message "buttons locked" then it disappears but remains in the background (where I put no viewport I guess); Is that a bug? 21.00.29 # lebellium: you're the one who made the fabulous samsung-like theme right? 21.00.36 # I don't know 21.01.10 # jlbiasini : the samsung-like theme yes, fabulous I don't know lol 21.01.57 # bertrik : whom should I ask to then? 21.03.26 # well I just notice a little thing that could be improved: if the cover art has the same color or nearly as the song info background (i.e. white) in the wps, then it is weird perhaps you could add atiny line as separator? 21.04.28 # I was also wondering if it is possible to theme this awfull button locked text with some image because this is clearly awfull on all theme! :D 21.04.53 Quit robin0800 (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 21.07.36 # jlbiasini : the problem is there is only 1px between the album art and the id3tag infos :S As for hold feature, the text is independant from the theme, I can't change that but I can display pictures/icons (like the lock icon in the status bar). I don't know if I can display a pic over this "buttons locked" text, I shoule try 21.08.33 Join limescout [0] (~david@c-69-242-30-52.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 21.10.30 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r31327): sansapatcher: use libtools.make. 21.10.36 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r31328): sansapatcher: allow building without bootloaders. ... 21.10.38 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r31329): Rockbox Utility: use libsansapatcher. ... 21.10.42 # on the sansa fuze+ original firmware the separation is handel by putting the progress bar between file's info and album covert 21.11.36 # ah you mean the 240*320 theme 21.11.46 # I thought you spoke about my Sansa Zip theme^^ 21.12.10 # yes :) 21.12.28 # But the theme is already very nice 21.12.39 # thx 21.12.44 # r31327 build result: All green 21.13.37 # the biggest issue for me is the menu viewport that doesn't display full screen when the mini-player is OFF but I can't do anything about that until JdGordon includes his skins engine improvements into the SVN :S 21.14.17 # the locked button stuff is probably difficult because I never saw a theme that in any other theme 21.14.36 # *handle it 21.15.00 # r31329 build result: All green 21.15.58 # atm for the separator line, I suggest you to edit my WPS background pic, that should be easy but I can't imagine that to be beautiful :S 21.17.55 # yes I understand. 21.19.28 # btw, do you have the FM radion menu with Fuze+ or is it still missing? 21.19.32 # radio* 21.19.57 Quit ender` (Quit: Never memorize anything you can look up in a book. -- Albert Einstein) 21.20.59 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@f048043015.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.21.02 # I had also an I idea about the wps displayed while no cover art are availlable: have the phono arm moving to show the position in the track!!! But I would be a mess for such a little result ;D No the radio is still under developpement on the fuze+: selecting it just crash rockbox 21.24.03 Quit Topy44 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.24.26 # in the original R0 fw the vinyle is rotating but these pictures are in a proprietary format and there is no editor available as of today. So I took the pic from the R1 and it's not rotating... I don't master Photoshop enough to reproduce the rotation :S 21.25.57 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r31330): ipodpatcher: move linker only options out of CFLAGS. ... 21.25.58 Join biopyte [0] (~kiwi@82.113.119.139) 21.27.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.28.06 # r31330 build result: All green 21.30.11 Part limescout 21.31.13 # Hi, I'm running rockbox on sansa clip+ and like it very much. however, there is one major issue with FM radio. Regardless what station, there is always the same specific background noise. Its a continuous ticking .... tick-tick-tick-tick, approx. 4 ticks/sec. this does not happen with the original clip firmware. obviously, its an rockbox issue. it would be fine if you could solve this in later versions. 21.31.27 # thank you 21.32.40 # biopyte: you probably should look if there isn't already a bug report on this and if not make one 21.32.53 # ok 21.33.13 # have a look here: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/index.php 21.33.18 # biopyte: I think there is similar bug report on the tracker already 21.33.39 # really? ok, i check it out. 21.33.41 # funman: tried to track down this ticking without luck to my knowledge 21.33.58 # s/:// 21.35.35 # FS#11915 21.35.36 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/11915 3Background noise with Sansa ClipV2 (bugs, new) 21.36.05 # biopyte: is it this? 21.36.36 Quit y4n (Quit: HOLY SHIT! WE'RE ALL JUST LIVING ON A GINORMOUS FUCKING SPINNING ROCK FLOATING THROUGH SPACE CIRCLING A BIG FUCKING BALL OF FIRE!!!) 21.37.50 # jlbiasini, not really, because i have this problem only with FM radio, not with music files 21.38.43 # its more like this: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12050 21.39.13 # so its a known issue 21.40.03 # but not easy to solve, unfortunately ... anyway, listening to radio i boot up the original firmware, thats ok 21.40.45 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@149.254.60.37) 21.40.51 # yeah but feel free to do some test and add info to the tracker: it might helps debugging it 21.41.29 # its no issue listening loud rock music ... but with classic and jazz its a problem 21.41.48 # ok 21.43.45 # wodz: i think saratoga also had a look at it 21.44.25 # biopyte: is the tick present when you record FM ? 21.45.34 # jhMikeS: committed soem changes about recordign on sansa AMS, I am not sure if they affected recording. Are you running 3.10 or a current build? 21.45.46 Join ender` [0] (~ender@foo.eternallybored.org) 21.47.09 # funman i remember there was an background noise issue when recording FM with both ... firmware and rockbox. i dont remember if it was the same noise. however, recording FM never worked for me 21.47.31 # always background noise 21.48.25 # biopyte: which FM chip? (you can see it in the debug menu) 21.48.42 # one moment 21.49.48 # fm recording works for me on clip zip 21.49.52 # SI4700 ...? 21.50.42 # AMSv2 21.52.11 # current build? 21.52.41 # i dont need recording ... just clean listening would be fine 21.53.33 # version 3.9 21.53.44 # grab something newer then from build.rockbox.org 21.54.14 # i was asking about recording to help debug what's going wrong. but you should just try a current build to see if the problem was already fixed 21.54.56 # ok 21.55.33 Join kevku [0] (x@2001:470:28:773::) 21.56.19 # 3.10 then ... 21.56.33 Join Pitt [0] (~59440888@www.haxx.se) 21.57.29 # biopyte: no, current build 21.57.33 # Hi everyone, I need help with unbricking sansa clip V1 21.58.01 # biopyte: http://build.rockbox.org/ grab the clip+ build (r31330) 21.58.18 # Pitt: how did you brick it? 21.59.26 # I stated it up, and suddenly it's saying "PANIC SD Xfer read err:0x8 Disc0" so I'm assuming it's bricked or some memory problem 22.00.30 Quit skip252 () 22.00.44 Quit robin0800 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 22.01.01 # how do i make an upgrade with the utility ... Installation - Install Rockbox? 22.01.51 # Pitt: have you tried holding the power switch for 30 seconds or so? 22.01.52 # or first uninstall old version? 22.02.59 # I now have unsoldered battery 22.04.56 # ok, i press Install Rockbox .... your responsibility ... 22.05.03 # ;-) 22.05.07 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@149.254.60.165) 22.07.27 # when I'm shortenig recovery pins and connecting player to USB nothing happend. But when I stop shortening pins the "PANIC" info cames back 22.10.14 Join saratoga [0] (9803ec71@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.236.113) 22.10.23 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r31331): sansapatcher, ipodpatcher: use MinGW C99 version of stdio functions. ... 22.10.24 # Pitt: well stop everything you're doing 22.10.27 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r31332): rbspeex, libucl: add rule to build DLL. 22.10.32 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r31333): libtools.make: add rule to build a DLL. ... 22.10.41 # i would reboot into the sandisk firmware and check the file system for errors 22.10.48 # i would not recommending unsoldering anything 22.10.51 # Pitt: it is a software error, your player is not bricked 22.11.09 # shortening pins of a battery? 22.11.55 # OK. So can I do something? 22.12.16 Part WalkGood 22.12.17 # press left button, press power. original firmware starts up 22.12.35 # r31331 build result: All green 22.12.43 # perhaps the wiki should be moer explicit 22.13.13 # it's not possible to brick a sansa ams player. the only possibility is to change mkamsboot 22.13.47 # the sansa clipv2 is special though; but then i don't know if someone could unbrick it. 22.13.56 Quit robin0800 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 22.14.25 # r31333 build result: All green 22.14.36 # Thank you a lot :) I'll reassemble player and try to fix it 22.16.55 # funman: updated to the current build. the ticking noise has gone almost completely. i can here it only on one station with weak signal, but the noise is not so loud as it used to be with 3.9 22.17.22 # biopyte: all is good then :) before reporting a bug make sure that it happens in the development version 22.17.23 # funman: seems, as we have solved the problem ... thank you. 22.18.03 # alright 22.18.13 # hm, I don't know of a reason why the ticking noise would be quieter in a newer build 22.19.11 # bertrik: r31180 ? 22.19.59 # bertrik: i can definitely hear the difference. i'm listening to a smooth and silent jazz piece, no ticking at all 22.20.03 # oh, during recording 22.20.25 # no, not recording 22.20.32 # i can check recording 22.20.35 # one moment 22.20.40 # no, but i thought this change could affect fm playback 22.24.57 # all hail ot ãšçïî 22.25.33 # dont know how to save the FM recording 22.26.48 # yeah the (fm) recording interface sucks on the clips. anyway the manual should describe it 22.28.08 # I haven't tried it for a while, but my theory was that the ticking is caused either by i2c communication with tuner or by interference by a display framebuffer update 22.30.25 Quit T44 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 22.31.20 # i think there were recent changes for i2c related to interrupts 22.31.27 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@f049101031.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.32.02 # bertrik: ah btw did i tell you that i get 23fps with mpegplayer on the zip. i don't know if it's realtime or if that means that we're too slow. the framerate seemed constant though 22.32.28 # let me urn the test plugin 22.34.09 # I think the maximum fps we can reach (limited by SPI speed) is 40.7 fps 22.34.52 # New commit by 03bluebrother (r31334): Rename libchinachip to libchinachippatcher. ... 22.35.14 # funman: i looked in the wrong folder (files/record/fm). the recording files where in the files main folder 22.35.32 # so, FM recording is clean and nice ... 22.35.34 # cool 22.36.08 # i have also the impression that FM signals are stronger and sound is better. but that might also be an illusion . 22.36.21 # so, perfect ... thanks to you, guys 22.36.25 Part jlbiasini 22.36.44 # r31334 build result: All green 22.37.50 Join jlbiasini [0] (~metaphys@d86-32-96-55.cust.tele2.at) 22.44.26 Quit biopyte (Quit: Leaving) 22.45.35 # * funman changed a bit http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaAMS#Unbricking 22.54.21 # bertrik: 1/1 40.5fps 1/4 81fps YUV: 1/1 37.5fps 1/4 78fps. It's hard to read because YUV is drawn in the framebuffer instead of on the screen 22.58.24 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.05.40 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 23.07.15 Quit domonoky (Quit: Leaving.) 23.12.47 Quit Pitt (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 23.15.13 Join dhrasmus [0] (~dhrasmus@173-26-133-131.client.mchsi.com) 23.23.38 Part jlbiasini 23.23.52 # why does rbspeex want to build rbspeex.dll.o if the rule building rbspeex.dll is already done and matched? 23.27.45 Quit T44 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 23.27.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.28.19 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@149.254.61.208) 23.34.42 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.6) 23.35.26 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 23.38.25 # can i reuse the same image labels in wps, sbs, fms - or do they conflict? 23.39.11 # dfkt: they don't seem to conflict 23.39.57 # just asking cause i never actually tried it - but reusing them would make it more convenient :) 23.40.31 # I did it for my theme, copy & paste is more convenient indeed :p 23.41.51 # /win 9 23.41.58 # (failed) 23.42.47 Join deute [0] (~4d069c45@www.haxx.se) 23.44.54 Quit Stummi (Quit: Bye!) 23.46.49 # is it normal that preparing the computer for compiling needs like more than 20 min? im new to rockbox development and i am trying to set up the compiler(using The Simple Guide To Compiling In Linux ). i ran ./rockboxdev.sh and it s like doing and doing for over 20 min. 23.47.02 # that's normal 23.47.07 # ah ok... fine 23.47.39 # we do provide a VB image that comes with the compilers already installed (very handy for windows users) 23.47.51 # well at least those with fast internet 23.52.25 Quit dhrasmus (Quit: Leaving) 23.55.26 Join deute2 [0] (~4d069c45@www.haxx.se) 23.55.26 Quit deute2 (Client Quit) 23.58.03 # yes but im just getting started with linux and i kind of like it... trying to avoid windows : ) 23.58.58 Quit deute (Quit: CGI:IRC)