--- Log for 04.02.112 Server: pratchett.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 2 days and 17 hours ago 00.07.45 # the forum behaves strangely 00.07.57 # in the new port forum, the second page only has one entry 00.08.18 # furthermore, I was nearly sure that there was a creative zen x-fi 2 thread and I can't find it anymore 00.09.43 Quit Wardje (Quit: Wardje) 00.12.15 # who maintains the forum ? 00.13.01 # pamaury: same here 00.13.11 # I also observed this strange ness 00.14.27 # that's suspicious 00.24.48 # its because we're getting tons of spam, and the filtering software screws up the page indexes when it deletes it 00.24.55 # apparently a fix is in the works 00.29.44 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 10.0/20120123235200]) 00.29.51 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.55=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 00.34.18 # but why a search for "Creative Zen X-Fi 2" doesn't yield any result whereas this topic exists ?! 00.35.50 Quit perrikwp_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.37.05 Join perrikwp [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 00.41.53 # saratoga: i didn't try this clip keymap change 00.42.26 # funman: i haven't had time to yet either :) 00.44.01 # someone bad "avaibepreettY" for spam 00.45.54 Quit curtism (Quit: Live Long and Prosper) 00.58.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.04.52 Quit perrikwp (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.08.16 Join perrikwp [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 01.10.58 Join perrikwp_ [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 01.14.08 Quit perrikwp (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 01.14.38 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 01.16.15 Quit perrikwp_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.17.29 Join perrikwp [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 01.25.07 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 01.25.20 Join domonoky1 [0] (~Domonoky@agsb-4d048c85.pool.mediaWays.net) 01.27.47 Quit domonoky (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.28.02 Quit SolarNRT () 01.28.45 Quit perrikwp (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.30.01 Join perrikwp [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 01.32.48 Quit domonoky1 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.33.46 Quit perrikwp (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.34.58 Join perrikwp [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 01.43.58 Join WilliamC [0] (~William@150.216.103.237) 01.44.28 # I'm using the Sansa Clip Fuze and it did weird things to my file names 01.44.36 # It truncated them 01.44.47 Quit petur (Quit: Bye) 01.44.59 # It truncated everything 01.45.45 # Make it clip zip 01.49.09 Quit WilliamC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.56.13 Quit saratoga (Quit: Page closed) 02.03.09 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@207.144.56.254) 02.04.45 Join Zarggg_ [0] (~zarggg@24.229.141.85.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) 02.07.52 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 02.08.31 Quit Zarggg (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 02.10.09 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 02.24.34 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@207.144.56.254) 02.25.28 Join notben [0] (~ben@99-122-85-101.lightspeed.spfdmo.sbcglobal.net) 02.29.40 Quit notben (Client Quit) 02.37.33 Join p}{oton [0] (~mark@ip216-239-65-97.vif.net) 02.41.00 Part p}{oton 02.58.37 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@165.123.49.232) 02.58.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.26.13 Join anewuser_ [0] (~anewuser@186.93.205.155) 03.27.42 Quit anewuser (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 03.30.07 Quit kadoban (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 03.32.34 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 04.03.17 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 04.03.39 Join Rower85 [0] (~husvagn@v-413-alfarv-90.bitnet.nu) 04.17.49 Quit TheSeven (Disconnected by services) 04.18.04 Join [7] [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.40.31 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.40.31 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.40.53 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.41.40 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.41.42 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.41.45 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.59.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.01.03 Quit anewuser_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.32.21 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@165.123.49.232) 05.41.34 Join curtism [0] (~curtis@bas11-montreal02-1128531121.dsl.bell.ca) 05.51.59 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p5B024871.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.53.00 Quit Rob2223 (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) 05.55.39 Quit KiwiCam (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 06.08.14 Join KiwiCam [0] (~KiwiCAM@51.197.69.111.dynamic.snap.net.nz) 06.11.20 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 06.11.20 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 06.11.20 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 06.49.23 Quit Rower85 (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 06.53.51 Join Rower85 [0] (~husvagn@v-413-alfarv-90.bitnet.nu) 06.59.06 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.03.15 Quit bertrik (Quit: And That, My Liege, Is How We Know the Earth to Be Banana Shaped) 07.05.06 Quit curtism (Quit: Live Long and Prosper) 07.07.36 Join _jhMikeS_ [0] (~jethead71@c-68-61-166-99.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 07.07.38 Quit _jhMikeS_ (Changing host) 07.07.38 Join _jhMikeS_ [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 07.07.38 Quit jhMikeS (Disconnected by services) 07.39.13 Nick _jhMikeS_ is now known as jhMikeS (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 07.43.40 # Liexseeva should get a ban (pharmacy spam) 08.59.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.16.53 Join mystica555_ [0] (~Mike@71-211-192-102.hlrn.qwest.net) 09.24.59 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-175-223.student.uu.se) 09.25.00 Quit n1s (Changing host) 09.25.00 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 10.11.22 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@pD9E41A14.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.20.40 Join kadoban [0] (~kadoban@ip98-165-177-158.ph.ph.cox.net) 10.23.36 Quit Rob2222 (Quit: Rob2222) 10.24.26 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p5B024871.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.26.39 Quit nosa-j (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 10.26.53 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-42-105.clt.bellsouth.net) 10.51.53 Join mortalis [0] (~mortalis@77.108.98.177) 10.55.01 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 10.58.22 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@pD9E41A14.dip.t-dialin.net) 10.59.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.07.57 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@vit94-1-82-67-248-70.fbx.proxad.net) 11.07.57 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 11.07.58 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 11.10.50 # why isn't the fuze+ bootloader built by the clients ? 11.18.23 Quit kadoban (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 11.19.26 # can we move the Fuze+ to unstable on the front page ? 11.20.04 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@p57988EEC.dip.t-dialin.net) 11.20.04 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 11.20.04 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 11.36.43 Quit qnm (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 11.37.44 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@f048072066.adsl.alicedsl.de) 11.38.59 Join qnm [0] (~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a) 11.40.48 Quit Topy (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11.41.46 Quit perrikwp (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11.43.00 Join perrikwp [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 11.43.15 # pamaury: from what i can see in the wiki pages the only missing thing would be "A released bootloader" 11.43.33 # there is already one on the server 11.44.19 # oh, the link on http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaFuzePlusPort is to a dropbox 11.45.03 # so does the installation with rbutil work? 11.46.04 # no, I'm sure there is one on our actual server 11.46.08 # rbutil works 11.47.06 # I can't remember the address though 11.47.12 # i'd say only an update of the wiki saying that rbutil works and is recommended for installation is all that's needed then 11.47.30 # i got the impression that it isn't working from reading the current page 11.48.28 Join y4n [0] (y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 11.49.09 # I'll ask jean-louis since he wrote the installer but he told me everything was ready 11.49.11 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@e179143174.adsl.alicedsl.de) 11.49.35 # ah, perhaps an rbutil version with the support isn't released yet 11.50.03 # yes 11.50.38 # there's a bootloader here http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/sandisk-sansa/fuzeplus/bootloader-fuzeplus.sansa 11.51.10 # assuming that works for the "Alternative method" i think that's fine if the link in the wiki is updated 11.52.18 # ah, the one linked there is a pre-patched firmware? 11.52.26 # the link on the wiki is probably not the latest one, I only did one of two release, can't remember 11.52.34 # I don't know 11.52.58 # it sounds like it since otherwise you'd need patch with mkimxboot 11.54.15 # then the alternative method should probably go away from the wiki 11.55.06 # so we need to either get a release of rbutil with fuze+ support out or put compiled binaries of the necessary tools to do the patching up and write instructions for that 11.55.21 # yes i think it should be removed 11.56.38 # and what about the build server ? is there a condition for the bootloader to get built ? 11.57.28 # i think it just needs to be added to some list of builds 11.58.14 # that would be useful since apparently I broke the built recently without noticing 11.59.05 # yea, just add it to www/buildserver/builds 11.59.39 # btw is it intended that the build table only shows checkwps and sim builds? 12.00.24 # n1s: it's intended to show only yellow and red builds 12.00.49 # below the table is a link to show all builds 12.00.50 # ah right, i had forgotten about that 12.05.05 # I don't have a checkout of www, would someone mind to add it ? 12.08.44 # sure 12.09.37 # it doesn't have sim or checkwps either, should those be added too? 12.11.08 Quit nosa-j (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12.12.13 # hmm, i don't quite get the format of that file and i'd hate to break the build system 12.13.54 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-42-105.clt.bellsouth.net) 12.18.44 # now i'm sure i don't get it, so i'll have to leave it to someone else 12.19.11 # n1s: ::<"human readable" name (for the headings in the table)>:: 12.19.22 Join nosa [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-42-105.clt.bellsouth.net) 12.20.16 # oops, forgot the second colum. 12.21.51 # ah, i was looking at the per reading the file but missed that it splits out the id and handles it separately so it didn't add up 12.22.13 # perl 12.22.37 Quit nosa-j (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 12.22.38 Nick nosa is now known as nosa-j (~m00k@adsl-74-235-42-105.clt.bellsouth.net) 12.23.59 # n1s: yes, a sim build would be nice too, I guess checkwps can't furt 12.24.01 # *hurt 12.24.02 # so what score should i put in? 12.29.53 # i guess i can push it to gerrit and ask someone who knows this to take a look 12.33.10 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-76-160-35.dynamic.chello.pl) 12.34.10 # kugel: how exactly did you try unwinder on RaaA? I am now performing install of linux on qemu-system-arm and I'd like to test SDL RaaA build in this environment 12.34.22 # pamaury, kugel http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#change,81 12.40.00 # wodz: tried on android 12.41.12 # kugel: Could it be the sp/pc catching routine which breaks on android? (small asm snipped) 12.41.32 # http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#patch,sidebyside,69,1,firmware/target/arm/unwarminder/get_sp.c 12.41.59 # wodz: no idea 12.42.29 # but i would think that msr doesnt work in user mode 12.42.37 # Torne knows these details :) 12.42.53 # You wrote "It *should* work if the unwinder doesn't use instructions unavialable in user mode" so I thought you know the constraints 12.44.53 # I don't know which instructions don't work in user mode no :) 12.45.03 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@2001:6a8:1100:cafe:5eac:4cff:fe9e:66ce) 12.45.04 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 12.45.04 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 12.45.12 # just wanted to remind you that raaa runs in user mode 12.46.24 # is pixelma sometimes *really* present on the IRC? I tried to contact her here several times to ask her about the R0 picture but no luck :/ 12.47.26 # she's on irc but I don't think she's going to make the image 12.47.56 # wodz: from the arm sdg "In user mode you can read all cpsr bits, but you can only 12.47.56 # update the condition flag field f. 12.47.56 # " 12.48.47 # kugel: Gaeverts and [Saint] told me to ask her, maybe she would. Why do you think that and then what to do? I can't design such pictures :S 12.49.18 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 12.49.47 # she's mostly inactive these days, and last images were mostly done by perfectdrug 12.49.48 # I don't know what those people said, but I said to talk to her to find out how to do it 12.49.56 # Not to get her to do the work 12.50.11 # I'm quite busy with real life at the moment and not even at home for another five weeks 12.50.49 # gevaerts: does http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#change,81 look ok? 12.51.27 # n1s: I don't know, why don 12.51.34 # t you see if there are comments on it? ;) 12.51.43 # lebellium: you could try contacting Marko Pahlke (perfectdrug) 12.52.05 # gevaerts: i might need glasses :) 12.52.19 Join Zagor| [0] (~Zagor@2001:6a8:1100:cafe:1a46:17ff:fee2:2fe2) 12.52.25 # okay thank you for the answers pixelma , kugel and gevaerts 12.52.40 Join kevku [0] (x@2001:470:1f15:1d8f::) 12.53.27 # gevaerts: are the scores auto updated after a build? 12.53.44 # no 12.54.25 # They're auto-updated whenever someone bugs me to recalibrate the lot and I feel like letting my laptop be at 100% CPU for three or four hours :) 12.54.25 # Scores are hard coded 12.54.43 # but just stealing the scores from say the regular fuze would be fine for now? 12.54.51 # Yes 12.55.04 # ok, i'll do that then 12.55.09 # That's what we usually do 12.55.17 # Use the scores of reasonably similar builds 12.57.01 # The scores are really just an approximation anyway. To have the scores be more useful we should really disable ccache on the build clients, but that would defeat the point I think 12.57.50 # ...and forbid people to use their computers :-) 12.58.08 Join anewuser [0] (~anewuser@186.93.205.155) 12.58.09 Quit anewuser (Changing host) 12.58.09 Join anewuser [0] (~anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 12.59.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.00.15 # i'll leave this for later, i can't reach rockbox.org atm 13.00.58 # heh, as soon as i posted that the website loaded after "connecting" for a few minutes 13.01.46 # It has been flooded by rogue indexing bots lately 13.02.11 # So we out of sockets 13.02.17 # *run 13.02.37 # any idea why? 13.03.23 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 13.03.28 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13.03.58 # No. It happens now and then. 13.04.48 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 13.07.57 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~LemonBoy@ppp-104-54.26-151.libero.it) 13.08.59 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@vit94-1-82-67-248-70.fbx.proxad.net) 13.08.59 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 13.08.59 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 13.09.48 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust848.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 13.17.10 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 13.20.58 Quit Zagor| (Changing host) 13.20.59 Join Zagor| [0] (~Zagor@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 13.21.07 Quit Zagor| (Quit: Bye) 13.21.14 Join Zagor| [0] (~Zagor@2001:6a8:1100:cafe:1a46:17ff:fee2:2fe2) 13.21.52 Quit Zagor| (Changing host) 13.21.52 Join Zagor| [0] (~Zagor@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 13.25.49 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 13.27.03 # kugel: msr should work in user mode, you just can't set the mode/interrupt bits 13.27.14 # kugel: you can still set the other bits (e.g. condition flags) 13.27.21 # and you can still read the whole thing 13.27.46 # also, someone: what do i have to do to make rockbox usb work on clipv2 on poweron? 13.27.53 # the bootloader is still loading the sansa firmware 13.28.05 # :) 13.30.40 # Commit 535a236 in www by 03Björn Stenberg: (Author: Nils Wallménius) Add fuze+ bootloader, checkwps and sim to the builds. 13.32.20 # Torne, funman is the clipv2 expert now 13.32.27 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 13.32.34 # yeah 13.32.37 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@cpc2-brig8-0-0-cust848.3-3.cable.virginmedia.com) 13.32.42 # i thought we had released a bootloader that made it boot rockbox on usb 13.32.49 # but evidently the version rockbox utility installs still doesn't 13.32.57 # oh well 13.34.05 # at least for the clipv2s that easily brick 13.34.16 # this one doesn't have that problem 13.34.23 # it works a-ok other than that 13.34.26 # usb works if i'm already in rockbox 13.34.37 # i just can't be arsed to compile a bootloader+mkamsboot myself 13.34.46 # but I thought all the AMSv1/v2 sansas boot RB on USB plugin too 13.34.52 # yeah, i thought they id 13.35.02 # but i just reinstalled the bootloader on this one and it still doesn't 13.36.22 # it says v4 on the boot screen which appears to be the latest tag 13.43.48 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: Bye ;)) 13.45.06 Join perrikwp_ [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 13.45.06 Quit perrikwp (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13.59.55 # okay perfectdrug agrees to design the R0 pic :) He's also busy so he doesn't know when he'll have time to do it exactly but he will. Nice :) 14.08.47 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@chello062178002170.1.11.univie.teleweb.at) 14.08.48 Quit dfkt (Changing host) 14.08.48 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 14.09.49 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 14.11.00 Quit Zagor| (Read error: No route to host) 14.21.31 Join Scr0mple [0] (~Simon@119.225.209.134) 14.24.03 Quit Scromple_ (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 14.27.51 Quit Horscht (Quit: Verlassend) 14.42.42 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@vit94-1-82-67-248-70.fbx.proxad.net) 14.42.42 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 14.42.42 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 14.44.01 Quit pamaury (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.46.09 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 14.50.53 Join mt [0] (~mt@rockbox/developer/mt) 14.54.53 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@2001:6a8:1100:cafe:5eac:4cff:fe9e:66ce) 14.54.53 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 14.54.53 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 14.59.14 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.00.59 Join Zagor| [0] (~Zagor@193.191.40.31) 15.04.28 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 15.08.41 Join denny_ [0] (~denny@14.139.122.114) 15.08.50 Quit petur (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 15.09.07 Nick denny_ is now known as Guest27611 (~denny@14.139.122.114) 15.09.09 Quit Guest27611 (Remote host closed the connection) 15.10.41 Quit mt (Quit: Leaving) 15.11.05 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 15.19.16 # lebellium: great! 15.23.18 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@2001:6a8:1100:cafe:5eac:4cff:fe9e:66ce) 15.23.18 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 15.23.18 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 15.25.49 Join aditi [0] (~aditi@59.92.136.146) 15.25.53 # hi 15.26.12 # I have a sansa clip+ 15.26.21 # recently it stopped working 15.26.46 # it lost battery charge - I mean I listened till it drained 15.26.50 # I tried to charge it up 15.27.02 Join lovasoa [0] (~olojkine@78.251.31.74) 15.27.11 Part lovasoa 15.27.20 # after that moment whenever I try to charge it it just heats up 15.27.33 # the display is blue black 15.27.42 # any clues if I can bring it back ? 15.28.02 # anyone else with similar experience ? 15.32.50 # does it still charge in the original firmware? 15.32.54 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 15.33.17 # bertrik: no it doesnt charge up at all 15.33.40 # it is not booting - no rockbox / original firmware screen :( 15.34.11 # hm, sounds like a hardware failure then 15.34.45 # Did you already try to hard reset it? 15.35.51 # i had an original clip heating up for no apparent reason - it was fried after that. after desoldering the battery it came to life, but no more sound 15.36.09 # yeah I did try holding up the power button for a rea;;y long while 15.36.31 # that is when the screen would change to the "LCD blu" color 15.36.53 # dfkt: yikes 15.37.18 # and it won't bootup anymore without having USB plugged? 15.37.46 # bertrik: yups it wont boot both ways wothout USB / with USB 15.37.50 Join Zagor- [0] (~Zagor@193.191.40.31) 15.37.53 Quit Zagor| (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.38.09 # I even left it like a long while to just reset it out - just like that 15.38.54 Join Zagor| [0] (~Zagor@193.191.40.31) 15.39.04 Quit Zagor- (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.39.10 # does the clip+ look a bit 'bloated'? 15.39.20 # bertrik: no it is not bloated 15.39.41 Quit Zagor| (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.39.45 Join Zagor| [0] (~Zagor@193.191.40.31) 15.43.21 # aditi, did it stay hot even after the long reset? 15.44.03 # dfkt: yeah for a while 15.44.04 Quit Zagor| (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 15.44.14 # ok, same as mine then 15.44.15 # while = like 5 mins 15.44.39 # dfkt: it cools down fast as well 15.45.20 # well, if you have the tools/skills, cracking it open and desoldering the battery, then connecting to usb would maybe give some clues... but i fear it's the same as what happened to mine 15.52.47 Join leavittx [0] (~leavittx@cl-534.mbx-01.si.sixxs.net) 15.53.56 # dfkt: will try your hints out 15.53.59 # thank++; 15.54.01 # BFN 15.59.12 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 16.08.12 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@pD9E41A14.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.19.48 Quit aditi (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 16.21.40 Join aditi [0] (~aditi@59.92.136.146) 16.36.27 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 16.38.43 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@vit94-1-82-67-248-70.fbx.proxad.net) 16.38.44 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 16.38.44 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 16.39.02 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 16.43.19 Join perrikwp [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 16.45.33 Quit perrikwp_ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 16.57.16 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 16.59.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 16.59.45 Quit mortalis (Quit: KVIrc 4.1.1 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 17.00.50 Quit kevku (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/) 17.04.10 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 10.0/20120123235200]) 17.05.41 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@e179143174.adsl.alicedsl.de) 17.16.01 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@2001:6a8:1100:cafe:5eac:4cff:fe9e:66ce) 17.16.01 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 17.16.01 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 17.22.24 Join Lemming [0] (~b27e2284@www.haxx.se) 17.32.03 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@82.67.248.70) 17.32.03 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 17.32.03 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 17.42.35 Quit liar (Read error: Connection timed out) 17.44.44 # hey guys) 17.45.05 # any news about yp-r0 port? 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19.37.13 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@pD9E41A14.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.40.48 # forums could be 100% moderated 19.40.53 # how much posts per day ? 19.41.27 # 71.something on average hmm 19.43.18 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 19.45.15 Quit anewuser (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 19.46.29 # bad idea 19.50.03 # what's wrong, kugel ? 19.50.26 # various topics are not shown 19.50.36 # both existing and new ones 19.53.31 # was some patch to automatically remove spam applied recently? 19.54.25 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 19.55.26 # yeah, the forums are seriously messed up 19.56.00 # here's the discussion I was thinking of: http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20120122#16:00 19.56.02 # I wonder why we seem to be the only forum on the world which struggles so much with spam 19.56.03 # there's an anti-spam plugin in use but it only hides the posts it marks as spam, global mods and admins have to go through this list once in a while and "free" false positives 19.57.15 # there was the problem that these still used to show up under "Recent Posts" and that was patched recently so as to not give the spammers their way 19.57.50 # spam attacks were really bad just before that 19.58.15 # other topic: GSoC 2012 was just announced 19.58.19 # aye, as far as I'm concerned the spam filter does more harm than good. Six months of too many false positives. I'd rather see 100 false negatives than 1 false positive, by a dev no less. The fact "known good" posters aren't whitelisted bugs me to no end. 19.58.47 # but - I've been less than active the last 6 months - so my opinion should be weighted low. 19.59.19 # soap: did you see the "Recent Posts" just before that? 20.00.07 # just before what? 20.00.15 # the recent posts is also completely useless now 20.00.31 # one sec 20.00.49 # you were lucky to find the 3 non-spam posts in the 10 "Recent Posts" pages... before the patch was applied to also hide the things marked as spam there 20.01.00 # funman: why? 20.01.33 # could the forums be made moderated for everyone except people with (a) a badge or (b) a minimum number of posts? 20.02.04 # pixelma, ahh, so you're saying before askimet and before the recent patch to the forum software to hide askimet-flagged spam from "recent posts" the recent posts list was poor SNR? 20.02.31 Quit curtism (Quit: Live Long and Prosper) 20.02.51 # recently yes 20.04.03 # I can believe that. That, though, doesn't "counter" my point that Akismet (I'll learn to spell it one day, I promise!) appears to be the absolutely worst spam-catching in the history of mankind. I'm not arguing that spam should be blocked from "recent posts", I'm arguing that the current method of detecting spam is horrid. 20.04.12 # pixelma: it's empty, full of unshown spam 20.04.41 # bluebrother^: whitelisting makes sense 20.05.14 # ah, hmm. I'd expected that the last 100 "allowed" posts were shown instead, haven't checked recently 20.05.42 # hitaatony seems to want to spam 20.05.51 Join limescout [0] (~david@c-69-242-30-52.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 20.06.41 # funman, linky? I'm not seeing that. 20.06.47 # (even when logged out) 20.06.54 # http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php?action=recent 20.07.07 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.07.09 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.6) 20.07.11 # check pages 2, 3, 4... to 10 20.07.22 # soap: go to the followup pages 20.07.34 # oh, funman just said that 20.07.58 # ahh. I never use that. Thanks for pointing that out. I just dumped a ton from Akismet, related I assume? 20.11.48 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 20.14.08 # Fuck. Another bug appears to be that when a post is rescued from the clutches of Akismet it may appear in the right forum but doesn't show up as a new post or even in the "Last Post" list. Anyone looking for the change in icon to indicate a new post won't see dreamlayers' new Official Test Build(s) thread. 20.16.04 Quit kadoban (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 20.16.37 # thanks for rescuing my post from the clutches of Akismet 20.17.55 Join saratoga [0] (980329b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.41.180) 20.18.10 # Torne: (regarding the clipv2) use the current mkamsboot release, or an SVN build of rbutil 20.18.23 Quit aditi (Quit: leaving) 20.18.33 # the boot decision on AMS devices is actually made by the patching software (e.g. rockbox utility) not by the bootloader 20.18.38 # Torne has a bricked clipv2 ? 20.18.50 # no, he just wants to boot into rockbox on USB insert 20.19.14 # ah right 20.19.25 # last mkamsboot release should work thoguh (1.5) 20.21.01 # kugel: ABI gets an incredible amount of spam, but they have lots of filtering 20.21.18 # a spam bot tries to post a new topic there once every 3-4 minutes 20.25.02 Join anewuser [0] (~anewuser@186.93.99.225) 20.25.02 Quit anewuser (Changing host) 20.25.02 Join anewuser [0] (~anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 20.26.18 # is the svn mailing list down for good or is the fix still pending? 20.31.27 # Can Gerrit do that notification? There is a "submitted changes" option, but I don't know if that's only for changes that went through code review. 20.47.49 # dreamlayers: you could try, all changes go through gerrit 20.49.19 Part limescout 20.58.29 Quit perrikwp (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 20.59.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.59.43 Join perrikwp [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 21.01.24 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@g231120237.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.01.24 Quit bluebrother (Changing host) 21.01.24 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 21.03.08 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.04.18 Quit bluebrother^ (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 21.04.41 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g231120237.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.20.16 # saratoga, it's weird that akismet on the rockbox forums works so badly... on ABI's frontpage/wordpress akismet is our only line of defense and it works incredibly well, separating spam from real comments 21.26.50 Quit dreamlayers (Quit: dreamlayers) 21.32.49 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.55=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 21.37.37 Quit perrikwp (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.01.51 Join saratoga_ [0] (980329c2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.41.194) 22.02.12 # dfkt: i think the software for our forums just doesn't play well with it 22.17.05 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Heading out) 22.18.06 # that callback mechanism for keyclick isn't so good since 22.18.25 # since it makes things fail elsewhere without notice 22.19.03 # or there's something else going on, but it's not working in the plugins now 22.24.07 # hmmm...it looks like keyclick_click will no longer work outside the action system 22.29.26 Quit anewuser (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.31.06 Join anewuser [0] (~anewuser@186.93.99.225) 22.31.06 Quit anewuser (Changing host) 22.31.06 Join anewuser [0] (~anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 22.35.18 Quit y4n (Quit: AMIGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAA) 22.44.26 Join webguest468 [0] (~56b7338c@www.haxx.se) 22.47.00 # To whom it may concern - I fixed the problem on build client herrero-dannya, it is OK to enable it again. (SDL dev. library was missing, I've installed it now) 22.59.26 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.04.15 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: Bye ;)) 23.13.57 # You've got a pretty tough Registration process, so how do the Spambots get past this so easily? 23.17.30 Join TSK [0] (~quassel@c-67-182-202-45.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) 23.28.10 # hm the list of build clients is no longer in svn^Wgit www repo ? 23.29.31 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-76-160-35.dynamic.chello.pl) 23.30.28 # funman: there's no list of build clients 23.30.33 # there's only a blacklist 23.30.49 # I tried to compile SDL RaaA on armel debian squeeze (running in qemu-system-arm). The compilation fails with this: http://www.pastie.org/3318020 23.32.02 # webguest468: you were not blocked it seems 23.32.18 # kugel: I am pretty sure that unwinder on Android crashes due to manipulation of cpsr bits which are forbidden in user mode. 23.32.33 # clients blocked are glasschale-Rondom fnarfbargle-uk-BradC jakorasia-cg Asuka-w1ll14m 23.32.39 # wodz: seems likely 23.32.56 # wodz: you need to define ARCH_ARM (in config.h) 23.33.14 # or override $arch in configure (then only C code is compiled) 23.33.34 # ARM_ARCH isn't autodetected yet 23.34.04 # (CPU_ARM and ARM_ARCH to be precise) 23.34.30 # The rbclient.log file is full of : Server message: Hello herrero-dannya. Your build client has been temporarily blocked by the administrators due to: You SDL installation is broken. Please go to #rockbox to enable your client again. 23.34.46 # and it is not running any builds 23.34.51 # kugel: configure prints "Automatically selected arch: arm" 23.35.17 # right 23.35.31 # #if defined(CPU_ARM) && defined(__ASSEMBLER__) 23.35.41 # this is the condition for ldrpc macro to be defined 23.36.02 # __ASSEMBLER__ should be defined by gcc when running on .S 23.36.57 # wodz: by overriding I mean make it not automatically select the arch (e.g. by adding arch="unknwon" to simcc()) 23.37.33 # CPU_ARM/ARM_ARCH should probably come from configure as well 23.38.17 # how this is done on android RaaA? 23.38.34 # it defines CPU_ARM in config.h 23.42.16 # what is CONFIG_PLATFORM for SDL RaaA? 23.42.35 # PLATFORM_SDL 23.44.18 # CPU_ARM can be derived from what configure uses to detect arm 23.45.04 # ARCH_ARM is a bit trickier to autodetect, but cpp appears to have sufficient defines for this as well 23.45.37 # anyway I guess this is a bit unusual to compile on arm natively 23.45.56 # at least today :-) 23.46.26 # just hack #define CPU_ARM and #define ARCH_ARM 5 somewhere 23.46.40 # (or whatever version is suitable) 23.48.42 # yeah, thats what I did now. 23.54.45 Quit Zarggg_ (Quit: Rebooting client...) 23.57.18 # memset16.S passed :-) 23.58.09 # wodz: RaaA on arm works, I tried it a few weeks back on my touchpad 23.58.35 # except sound didn't work but that was probably a touchpad-specific issue