--- Log for 08.02.112 Server: pratchett.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 6 days and 17 hours ago 00.00.05 # no file 00.00.18 # and i tried again, and rbutil ended suddenly again 00.00.33 Quit leavittx (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 00.00.55 # ohh boy 00.00.58 # what OS? 00.01.03 # windows 7 00.01.08 # SP1 00.01.21 # 64bit or 32bit? 00.01.26 # 32 00.02.07 Quit Strife89 (Quit: Vamoose.) 00.02.45 # * bluebrother^ reboots into w7 00.07.00 # woohoo! 00.07.20 # * FuzePlusUser calmly waits, attempting not to appear desperate 00.08.11 # hmm, crashes here as well 00.08.17 # egad 00.08.20 # * bluebrother^ grumbles 00.08.26 # egad? 00.08.41 # An exclamation expressing exultation or surprise, etc. 00.08.58 # i was hoping it was my machine 00.09.35 # um... are there instructions on how to install the boot loader without the rbutil? 00.09.49 # I've had such a crash in the past but that was related to some DLL loading with MSVC 00.11.21 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaFuzePlusPort#Semi_45Automatic_method 00.12.43 # oh my god, i knew i shouldn't have stopped learning programming at visual basic 00.12.56 # * FuzePlusUser checks if Fuze+ is still operational 00.13.28 # you can always start learning again 00.14.50 # i would very much like to someday 00.15.08 # well... turns out it's still working 00.15.19 # why shouldn't it? 00.15.21 # thank you very much for your help bluebrother 00.15.27 # and all the other people who helped out 00.15.30 Quit bertrik (Quit: And That, My Liege, Is How We Know the Earth to Be Banana Shaped) 00.15.56 # you need to put a patched original firmware on the player which will then update itself. Since that file wasn't generated successfully nothing happened to the player 00.16.45 # i see... well, i'm pretty sure i can compile the fw and do the semiauto method -- i installed dd-wrt on a router that was also only partially supported -- but not tonight... 00.17.00 # Compile? 00.17.18 # Semi-Automatic method This method requires the following things: a working cross-compiler (arm-elf-eabi), see HowToCompile a copy of the source code, see HowToCompile a copy of the latest firmware for the Fuze+ 00.17.22 # do we have a mkimxboot binary on the download server? 00.17.25 # http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showpost.php?p=597879&postcount=619 > I confirm this bug. That's funny nobody noticed it before^^ 00.17.43 # you don't need to build the bootloader, you can get that from the download server (same thing Rockbox Utility does) 00.17.57 # i shall forever be remembered as the finder of this non-infamous bug 00.18.08 # ...shoulda picked a cooler nick 00.18.21 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 00.19.06 # hm, ok, /me searches for download server 00.19.40 # bluebrother so the instructions on that page are outdated, then? 00.19.42 # hm, I don't see any mkimxboot minaries there 00.19.47 # 8binaries 00.20.01 # First you need to compile the bootloader, 00.20.03 # * bluebrother^ goes rebooting again 00.20.03 # kugel: can you fix the bug in a next commit? 00.20.13 # That's not too good. I don't think we should have promoted the port to unstable without that 00.21.38 # is Bootloader V7 still the latest? 00.22.06 # FuzePlusUser: get the bootloader from http://download.rockbox.org/bootloader/sandisk-sansa/fuzeplus/ 00.22.27 # thank you gevaerts 00.22.43 # gevaerts: http://www.rockbox.org/ says fuze+ is unusable 00.23.03 # Ah, good :) 00.23.26 # what do i do with this file? rename it to firmware.sb and copy to fuze+ root? 00.23.45 # funman: builds.pm says it's unstable though 00.23.47 # funman: no 00.23.52 # FuzePlusUser: no 00.24.41 # FuzePlusUser: http://www.alice-dsl.net/dominik.riebeling/rockbox/mkimxboot.exe 00.25.52 # gevaerts: without mkamsboot binaries? 00.26.18 # bluebrother^: yes 00.26.44 # what's the syntax for this app? just says "You must specify an input file" 00.26.52 # or rather waht syntax should i use 00.27.06 # the same the wiki describes 00.29.57 # hmm. No crash on Linux. 00.30.08 # so this has to be yet another Windows specific issue :( 00.30.11 # * bluebrother^ sighs 00.30.37 # and why is the icon in the Linux binary broken again? 00.33.36 # FuzePlusUser: I wouldn't be surprised if mkimxboot crashes as well 00.34.53 # lebellium: looks like a few other targets share the ypr0 screen size so it's not ypr0 specific 00.36.07 # haha bluebrother^ it didn't crash, but it ended with a troubling error status. could you take a look at the output? http://justpaste.it/q4r 00.36.08 # funman: you mean the suffle mode bug with the cabbie theme? yes, the same problem probably occurs on the Fuze+ and the Gigabeat 00.37.03 # The gigabeat is an old target. Should I understand nobody cares on the shuffle mode? :D 00.37.38 # <[Saint]> Ummmnn....no. 00.38.11 # <[Saint]> I never get when you're joking or not...but I bloody hope you are ;) 00.38.49 # lol 00.39.02 # I'm often joking 00.39.12 # that's good among this serious developer world :) 00.43.02 # testing to see if i dropped 00.44.28 # lebellium: [Saint] knows his way in cabbie code i think 00.47.57 # This 'ottogrey' on ABI proposed a fix, just a 139 to be replaced by 0. I did not check if it works though 00.48.09 # is the code for http://themes.rockbox.org/ in a repo? 00.48.51 # yes 00.49.12 # git://git.rockbox.org/www ? 00.49.23 # themesite 00.51.18 # hm the list of players is not in that repo 00.51.48 # No, that's in a database 00.52.05 # http://build.rockbox.org/ : "SanDisk Sansa Clip Zip". http://themes.rockbox.org/ : "Sansa Clip Zip" (no SanDisk) 00.52.38 # from http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36978&page=30 00.53.58 # Not any more :) 00.55.14 # thanks 00.58.02 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (~rmenes@65.88.88.69) 00.58.02 Quit LambdaCalculus37 (Changing host) 00.58.02 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (~rmenes@rockbox/staff/LambdaCalculus37) 00.59.22 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 01.00.09 # well, ok. i tried. will try again in a couple weeks. hope things work out bluebrother^ :) 01.00.14 Quit FuzePlusUser (Quit: CGI:IRC) 01.00.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.10.26 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 01.12.00 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08.05.01 # failed to open /dev/urandom : No such file or directory 08.07.23 # hmm, crashes on XP as well. I _thought_ I've tried it on that XP VM several times ... 08.08.25 # did nobody try mkimxboot on Windows before? 08.08.31 # * bluebrother shakes head 08.16.45 Quit [Saint] (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 08.20.11 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 08.25.39 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 08.27.37 # ok, seems to be an easy fix. 08.34.45 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 08.36.32 # gevaerts: the sa9200 should be put onto the build page also 08.38.58 # gevaerts: sorry you did already 08.39.08 # Zagor: please pull then :) 08.40.33 # done 08.44.05 Join efyx [0] (~efyx@lap34-1-82-225-185-146.fbx.proxad.net) 08.49.51 Nick scorche` is now known as scorche (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 09.01.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.03.52 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 09.03.52 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 09.03.52 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 09.10.08 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-76-160-35.dynamic.chello.pl) 09.11.21 # kugel: Could you test panicf() on android? Your suggestion to move unwarminder to lib/ sounds sensible but I would like to sort out basic problems first. 09.18.02 Join cr3 [0] (~cr3@117.198.114.52) 09.18.07 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 09.18.37 # Torne: can I push a complete branch into gerrit? 09.19.52 Nick kugel is now known as kugelp (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 09.21.55 # Lalufu: yes, but each commit is a separate task, with dependencies added by Gerrit 09.21.56 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@giant.haxx.se) 09.23.42 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 09.26.20 # kugelp: so, do I push my local branch into master on gerrit, or can I push into a new branch and gerrit will pick it up? 09.38.09 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 09.39.41 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 09.40.38 # Lalufu: you push it to refs/for_master or so 09.41.54 # I'm currently reading through the gerrit docs (upstream) 10.04.47 # Lalufu: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UsingGithas all infos 10.04.56 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UsingGit 10.29.23 # Lalufu: I suspect that at this point for entire branches an external git hoster is a better option 10.30.24 Quit cr3 (Quit: Leaving) 10.31.54 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 10.32.02 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@c-68-61-166-99.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 10.32.02 Quit jhMikeS (Changing host) 10.32.02 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 10.35.49 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@iwl138.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 10.36.54 # http://web.inter.nl.net/users/lemmensj/homepage/daisy-player.html <- this DAISY player should be fairly easy to port. It uses plain static allocations and is console based. 10.39.50 Join leavittx [0] (~leavittx@cl-534.mbx-01.si.sixxs.net) 10.46.24 # Is there any way to use the result from this %ss(0,1,%cH) as an offset in an %xd( )? I'd like to respresent the the 0,1 or 2 result as an Image and do the same for %ss(1,1,%cH) & the Minutes. Perhaps there's a simpler way? 10.49.42 Nick kugelp is now known as kugel (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 10.50.39 Nick kugel is now known as kugelp (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 10.51.01 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10.55.20 Join merbanan [0] (~benjamin@2a00:801:f5:10:221:70ff:fecb:d6f9) 10.55.51 # 06:41 < [Saint]> Pass...nerds of the highest order getting 10.55.52 # engaged/married/breeding certainly is a noteworthy achievement 10.55.52 # :) 10.55.52 DBUG Enqueued KICK kugelp 10.55.52 # 06:41 < JdGordon> more like i wanted attention :p 10.55.52 # 06:44 < [Saint]> +1 for honesty ;) 10.55.54 # 06:58 -!- pamaury [~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury] has joined 10.56.09 # huh??? where did that come from 11.00.11 # kugelp: are you going to give backtrace() a try on android or should I do the cleanup and final tests on SDL RaaA on arm and commit? 11.01.02 # I hope to try this afternoon, make sure to remind me 11.01.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.01.38 # but if it works on SDA RaaA it most probably also works on android 11.02.46 # kugelp: I made a couple of quick hacks to compile SDL RaaA on arm natively so I might forget about something 11.04.03 # and BTW. what is our policy about crediting original author of unwarminder? Should I put him in CREDITS, should I ask him if he would like to be credited or what? 11.08.20 Join factor [0] (~factor@74.197.205.204) 11.08.28 Quit merbanan (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11.21.42 Join ender` [0] (~ender@foo.eternallybored.org) 11.28.27 Join mystica555_ [0] (~Mike@mystica.mobi) 11.31.53 Join nick_p [0] (~nick@82-69-105-120.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) 11.32.20 Join TomColler [0] (~thomas@net-93-144-139-38.cust.dsl.teletu.it) 11.33.42 Join jordan` [0] (~gromit@2001:660:3302:2826:225:90ff:fe20:d9a8) 11.36.52 Quit leavittx (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 11.37.21 Quit Topy44 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11.37.22 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@f048207152.adsl.alicedsl.de) 11.39.11 # Lalufu: you *can* push a complete branch to gerrit; i set up ACLs that give developers private namespaces for this 11.39.14 # however, you probably shouldn't 11.39.39 # unless that is still going to be under development for a long time and you need to work with other people on it 11.40.05 # I think I'll rebase the branch and condense the commits into a bunch of large patches and push those 11.40.07 # see commit policy for the preferred approach: squash into a series of logically separate patches without intervening historical states taht aren't interesting 11.40.28 # then either push those to master directly, or to refs/for/master if you want them reviewed (which will make one review per patch) 11.40.47 # this works out the same as, say, linux, where you are expected to post a patch series via email 11.40.50 # just, not via email 11.41.25 # the ability to have a private branch on the server is there for either WIP you are still changing radically, or for long term branches that multiple people are working on together 11.41.38 # stuff that's approaching finished shouldn't need to be that way 11.42.27 # OK 11.51.56 Join leavittx [0] (~leavittx@cl-534.mbx-01.si.sixxs.net) 11.53.53 Nick kugelp is now known as kugel (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 11.53.53 DBUG Enqueued KICK kugel 11.54.26 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 11.57.30 Nick kugel is now known as kugelp (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 11.57.30 DBUG Enqueued KICK kugelp 12.02.43 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 12.20.12 Join anewuser [0] (~anewuser@190.207.230.249) 12.20.13 Quit anewuser (Changing host) 12.20.13 Join anewuser [0] (~anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 12.20.51 Join merbanan [0] (~benjamin@h217-27-188-82.cust.tyfon.se) 12.24.01 Join Rower85 [0] (~husvagn@v-413-alfarv-90.bitnet.nu) 12.26.16 # Lalufu: i haven't documented how to push a private branch yet, i will do at some point 12.26.27 # well, "private" is not quite right, they are still publicly visible 12.26.45 # but you control who can push there, and they are not fetched by default when someone clones the repo 12.32.18 # Torne: what I don't really understand from the gerrit docs is the whole refs/for/* thingy 12.33.24 # the rockbox docs say to use /master, but if I read the gerrit docs right I can use other things there. 12.33.41 # refs/for is just the prefix that makes a code review 12.33.56 # refs/for/master creates a review for a change that, when submitted, will land on refs/heads/master 12.34.11 # you could, equally, push to refs/for/v3.10 to propose a patch to go into that release branch 12.34.28 # Can you push to refs/for/refs/for/master? :) 12.34.34 # gevaerts: fortunately no ;) 12.34.44 # you can do refs/for/refs/developer/torne/foo 12.34.45 # or similar. 12.34.45 # does the branch have to exist on the server, or could I (in theory) make something up? 12.34.53 # if you include the second 'refs' to make it fully qualified 12.35.06 # Lalufu: yes, branches have to already exist to push code reviews for them 12.35.26 # currently we have not given everyone the right to indiscriminately create new ones 12.35.33 # but you can create new ones in specific ways 12.35.34 # understandable 12.36.17 # currently, you can create new branches under refs/heads if you are in the release committers group (which you can just add yourself to if you need to, but is not default) 12.36.22 # this is intended for people to make, say, v3.11 12.36.29 # not to just create new branches when they feel like it 12.36.56 # you can also create new branches under refs/developer/yourusername 12.37.21 # which are the "private" branches i mentioned 12.37.36 # but generally i would suggest not doing that :) 12.38.08 # currently there's only one under there: refs/developer/zagor/dynamic-lcd, which was zagor's dynamic lcd branch from svn 12.38.23 # which was a long lived development branch that people may need to collaborate on 12.38.26 # which is what that's for :) 12.39.31 # so, yeah. if you did need a developer branch, you can just push directly to it to create it, and once it exists, if you want to submit code reviews to it you can, by just prefixing it with refs/for 12.39.51 # but you can't create a branch using a code review in gerrit currently 12.39.58 # it doesn't know how to handle that 12.40.50 # does that make sense now? :) 12.48.37 # Torne: May I ask for unwarminder review? As an arm guy you might find something obvious I missed 12.48.45 # Yeah, sorry I ahven't odne that 12.48.56 # I will have a look in, like, five minutes when i've got my giant build kicked off 12.49.05 # :) 12.49.57 # is the unwarminder code unmodified? 12.50.13 # the bits not related to integrating it into rockbox, i mean 12.51.34 # Torne: I changed two constants 1) how many instruction are interpreted before giveup 2) mem hash table size. For the 2) I am not quite sure I did it right - the comment says that hash size should be prime number but I fail to see why 12.51.56 # currently it is not prime 12.52.03 # Torne: makes sense, thanks 12.54.21 # hash table sizes should always be prime :) 12.54.49 # minimises the number of pathological patterns that cause all data to end up in the same bucket 12.55.35 # ok. simple fix 12.55.48 # yeah, use 61 or 67 insteda of 63 12.56.19 # what were the default values, also? 12.56.32 # can you leave the original values in there commented out, with an explanation that they were changed for rockbox? 12.56.43 Ctcp Ignored 3 channel CTCP requests in 1 hour and 1 minute at the last flood 12.56.43 # * Torne will look at the actual code in a few still :) 12.57.52 # UNW_MAX_INSTR_COUNT 100, MEM_HASH_SIZE 31 12.58.26 # I was advertised by the author to increase those if we are not very tight in ram. 12.59.11 Part nick_p ("Leaving") 12.59.55 # ok. well, can you put that into the actual file, for people to refer to in future? :) 13.01.15 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.16.06 # wodz: review added. 13.16.59 # forum admins: Peehecemo is in need of a ban (spammer) 13.17.28 # wodz: thanks for the work you have put into this, but i have some suggested changes before it goes in :p 13.19.01 Join megal0maniac [0] (~2984fee2@www.haxx.se) 13.20.10 # Does anyone know where I can find Rockbox Utility 1.2.12? 13.21.11 # Does anyone know where I can find Rockbox Utility 1.2.12? 13.21.28 # not if you repeat yourself unnecessarily 13.24.10 Quit megal0maniac (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 13.25.43 # wow. 13.25.46 # that actually worked ;) 13.28.50 # ~~~~:source /home/bryan/.byobu/profile 13.28.56 # oops 13.33.19 # Torne: Thanks. Before pushing I would like to rewrite get_sp.c into get_sp.S since this is pure assembly, moving to /lib/unwarminder (or do you have better idea?) sounds sensible, hash size we have already discussed 13.34.36 # I can't remember the reason for inlining backtrace(). In original sources final client function is implemented as macro. 13.36.14 # I skipped ATTRIBUTE_PRINTF simply because I couldn find proper combination of naked and this to work although I didn't look deeply into this. 13.39.46 # my expectation would be that you don't need to inline it 13.39.54 # About client.c comment - while I generally agree this means we will diverge from original logic. 13.40.11 # if it works correctly without being inlined, don't :) 13.40.19 # if it doesn't, then, er, yeah. 13.40.24 # we should figure that out 13.40.27 # Torne: I'll check this. 13.41.06 # the client code looks to be written very much like an example, and i don't think there'sa ny particular reason to care about leaving it how it was originally 13.41.21 # so, i vote for printing incrementally 13.41.37 # ok, I'll explore this 13.42.00 # Oh, er 13.42.04 # Actually, one thing i didn't think of 13.42.09 # have we tested what happens if the unwinder faults? :) 13.42.19 # i am assuming it goes recursive and explodes 13.42.24 # we should probably.. not do that. 13.42.26 # nop 13.42.38 # probably: set some flag on entering unwinding 13.42.48 # and don't try and unwind again if you end up back at UIE 13.42.58 # ideally, also don't overwrite the info on the screen we did manage to print 13.42.59 # there is hard limit where it ends (after 1000 instruction without unwund frame to be exact) 13.43.11 # no, i mean i th eunwinder accesses an address that causes an exception 13.43.14 # e.g. memory that doesn't exist 13.43.36 # won't that just hit UIE again and then try and unwind *that* state? :) 13.44.01 # can UIE be recursive? 13.44.18 # Sure, if you cause a data abort while in there 13.44.26 # hmm 13.44.30 # good point 13.44.43 # The ideal thing would be to trap it "properly" 13.44.52 # which is what the read functions are for, i believe 13.45.02 # i.e. set some flag when the unwinder is about to touch a possibly bad address 13.45.09 # then ahve the abort vector return an error cleanly 13.45.18 # such that the unwinder can neatly conclude that the address is bad and stop 13.45.26 # Hm. 13.45.37 # Tell you what.. fix up the things i mentioned already there 13.46.02 # and i'll have a look later and see if i can write a couple of safe memory access functions for rockbox :) 13.46.05 # unless you just want to do it 13.46.58 # I am a bit short in arm knowledge here. I understand the basics but thats all about it 13.47.56 # Torne: what about place where to put this in our tree? Does lib/unwarminder sounds sensible? 13.48.05 # *sound 13.48.40 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@84.51.190.166) 13.50.53 # Commit 51912c8 in rockbox by 03Jonathan Gordon: (Author: Wieland Hoffmann) brickmania: Use short L: %d life indicator if needed 13.51.04 # Torne: why cant we submit changes without a code review? 13.51.08 # bit annoying 13.51.30 # I mean, the "submit" button is bloody there! 13.52.22 Quit Rower85 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13.53.02 # 51912c8 build result: 4 errors, 1 warnings (Wieland Hoffmann committed) 13.56.07 # that is apparently a build client issue, builds fine on my box 13.57.42 # JdGordon: same gcc version? 13.58.30 # I'm on 4.4.4 13.58.36 # so no 14.13.58 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 14.16.46 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~LemonBoy@ppp-177-11.26-151.libero.it) 14.17.37 Quit sinthete1 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 14.20.48 Join rlnd [0] (~rlnd@31-211-200-227.customers.ownit.se) 14.26.03 Quit evilnick (Quit: Leaving) 14.26.13 # Zagor: van you move Rockbox Utility binaries to the download server or is this Bagder's call? 14.26.27 # i can do it 14.26.45 # great. 14.27.29 # where are they? 14.28.06 # http://www.alice-dsl.de/dominik.riebeling/rockbox/rbutil-releases/1.2.12/ 14.28.52 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@sphinx.lix.polytechnique.fr) 14.28.53 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 14.28.53 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 14.29.15 # sorry, http://www.alice-dsl.net/dominik.riebeling/rockbox/rbutil-releases/1.2.12/ 14.29.40 Quit Poodlemastah (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 14.30.37 Part TomColler 14.32.09 Join Poodlemastah [0] (~Poodlemas@h-241-102.a218.priv.bahnhof.se) 14.34.10 # JdGordon: there are many, many ways to submit without code review. i can't easily allow you to submit a change you uploaded for review, through the review interface, without it being marked as okay, but you can still do it half a dozen other ways ;) 14.34.14 # also, yaknow 14.34.20 # click review, click +2, click publish and submit 14.34.25 # submitted without review :) 14.34.40 # alternatively: just push it to master 14.35.15 # generally, though, if it's worth you uploading it for review in the first place, surely you can find *someone* to +2 it 14.36.06 Quit ze (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 14.39.16 Join ze [0] (ze@tardis.yi.org) 14.40.23 Quit Poodlemastah (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 14.41.38 Join Poodlemastah [0] (~Poodlemas@h-241-102.a218.priv.bahnhof.se) 14.44.18 Quit mystica555_ (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 14.48.17 # bluebrother: is there any point in keeping old versions around? 14.49.07 # wodz: that seems like a reasonable place. and yeah, i will see about fault handling maybe. for now it's fine without it. maybe just a simple flag to prevent reentrant invocation? i.e. if you start unwinding, set a flag that causes any further UIEs to go directly to spinning forever without touching the screen 14.59.25 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.6) 15.00.45 # bluebrother: just read the logs, there is no mkximxboot on the servers because it's supposed to be integrated in rbutil of which the new release should happen soon 15.00.48 # Zagor: not really. Except for reference and to allow using an older one in case of bugs ... 15.00.59 # pamaury: no manual install then? 15.01.01 # Apparently there is a problem with /dev/urandom, that doesn't on windows :) 15.01.01 # Why not? 15.01.15 # bluebrother: let's keep one old version then 15.01.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.01.17 # pamaury: mkimxboot crases on Windows 15.01.31 # then someone has to put some version on the server 15.01.35 # I've already started looking into that 15.01.50 # bluebrother: it's probably because you can't read random numbers with /dev/urandom 15.01.57 # given the error message from the guy 15.02.00 # need to check my changes with Rockbox Utility tonight. 15.02.18 # a mkimxboot by itself seems to work 15.02.39 # at least it finishes with result: 0 15.03.16 # any reasonyou used /dev/urandom instead of rand()? 15.03.42 # historical reason :) 15.03.46 # might also affect os x - no idea if there's urandom 15.04.34 # we dont't have specific requirements for the randomness of the random numbers, do we? 15.04.44 # no 15.04.51 # we even use fixed numbers here 15.05.15 # *could even 15.05.33 # ok, so Ican simply replace the use of urandom and avoid a special case 15.05.46 # yes 15.06.08 # good. I'll work on that tonight. 15.06.19 # ok thanks 15.07.00 # what puzzles me most is that Rockbox Utility simply crashes instead of failing to patch the file. 15.07.19 # but let's see ... 15.07.58 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~LemonBoy@ppp-177-11.26-151.libero.it) 15.07.59 Quit TheLemonMan (Client Quit) 15.08.30 # that's weird 15.08.45 # I put a *lot* of efforts in making mkimxboot very robust to crashes 15.09.05 # it would a shame that it's rbutil which is the weak point 15.09.45 # Zagor: thanks 15.10.28 # could be something in the integration code 15.10.52 # but I can't check this right now 15.11.37 Quit Poodlemastah (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 15.11.56 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 15.15.08 Quit anewuser (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.18.38 Join Poodlemastah [0] (~Poodlemas@h-241-102.a218.priv.bahnhof.se) 15.25.54 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~LemonBoy@ppp-177-11.26-151.libero.it) 15.27.01 Join WalkGood [0] (~4@unaffiliated/walkgood) 15.53.43 Join y4n [0] (y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 16.09.04 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.6) 16.15.19 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~LemonBoy@ppp-177-11.26-151.libero.it) 16.38.15 Nick kugelp is now known as kugel (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 16.38.15 DBUG Enqueued KICK kugel 16.38.23 Nick kugel is now known as kugelp (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 16.38.23 DBUG Enqueued KICK kugelp 16.44.25 Part LinusN 16.50.01 Nick kugelp is now known as kugel (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 16.50.01 DBUG Enqueued KICK kugel 16.51.01 Quit ps-auxw (Quit: leaving) 16.51.25 Join ps-auxw [0] (~arneb@2001:470:c807:0:1532:4e5f:2ad3:4123) 16.56.22 Join mystica555_ [0] (~Mike@mystica.mobi) 16.58.12 Part Zagor 17.01.18 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.15.19 Join jlbiasini [0] (~metaphys@d86-32-96-55.cust.tele2.at) 17.16.40 Quit pamaury (Read error: Operation timed out) 17.16.46 Quit WalkGood () 17.22.29 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-76-160-35.dynamic.chello.pl) 17.23.20 # on RaaA system_exception_wait() need to wait actually in order to panicf() be useful 17.23.43 # I've have a question about git: I've made some modif and commit them for rewiew (http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#change,86) then I've made some further modification on my local tree and commit them for review (http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#change,87). Now I need to amend the first commit is there a way I can set git to do that? 17.24.25 # jlbiasini: you mean you would like to upload new version on 86 right? 17.25.12 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.25.25 # Torne: looks like unwarminder can handle bad addresses during unwinding already 17.25.40 # wodz: yes 17.25.43 # kugel: er, how? 17.25.53 # that doesn't make sense 17.25.56 # "bad" is platform defined 17.26.13 # "Accessing to the system memory from the unwinder is abstracted through callbacks that must be implemented by the 'client' code, and this allows reads to be validated such that unwinding is stopped if alignment or the address being read is at fault." 17.26.17 # yes 17.26.25 # that's exactly what i was suggesting we implement 17.26.30 # our callbacks just directly do reads 17.26.35 # which will trigger further aborts :) 17.26.49 # ah fine then, didn't understand your suggestion properly 17.26.59 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@207.144.201.128) 17.27.15 # we could validate the addresses; check alignment and check they are within ram 17.27.22 # that would eb a start 17.27.29 # actually trapping aborts would be nice though 17.27.31 # and it's not that hard. 17.27.35 # jlbiasini: modify, amend and push to refs/for/master 17.27.56 # gerrit will update the already existing ticket as it recognizes the change-id 17.28.23 # jlbiasini: in future you probably don't want separate changes for that in the first place 17.28.24 # but last commit i did is th 87 17.28.43 # jlbiasini: use rebase --interactive to change commits before the latest one 17.28.52 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 17.29.03 Ctcp Ignored 3 channel CTCP requests in 11 minutes and 46 seconds at the last flood 17.29.03 # * Torne suggests squashing them anyway and abandoning 87, tbh 17.29.22 # having the change to behaviour and manual in separate commits doesn't seem like a good idea in general :) 17.29.32 # especially if you ahve them both ready at the same time anyway 17.30.17 # Torne: I thought we had to separeted all step in a patch. I once did a patch with manual modification in it and no one wanted to eard about it 17.30.46 # If the patch is too large and complex to understand as one thing, then yes, separate it into logical steps 17.30.49 # it's fine either way in my opinion 17.30.59 # that is what I've answered once but it's also true that it was on a bigger patch that could confuse stuff 17.31.02 # devs' opinions vary also :) 17.31.13 # anything that can reasonably be a single change should be 17.31.40 # the idee was to have two different patch and commit them just one after the other 17.31.50 # right, but why? what is teh advantage? 17.32.45 # I'll push it whether it's a single or seperate patches :) 17.32.51 # anyway. you can change a commit that's not the most recent with rebase --interactive, as people said 17.32.54 # It was suggested that for searching in a tree of patch applyed 1 years ago it would be much more easy to find 17.33.07 # jlbiasini: that doesn't make any sense and whoever said that is dumb :) 17.33.29 # Torne: hey, careful 17.33.38 # well the case was not that simple 17.33.53 # * Torne actively discourages people from thinking of a change to documentation as something independant of the change to behaviour it documents 17.34.02 # this produces bad results :) 17.34.07 # in this case it is quite obvious 17.34.10 # makes cherrypick more difficult, makes people lazy 17.34.59 # anyway, i suggest: squash them together, make sure you keep the Change-Id from 86 and delete the one from 87 17.35.02 # then abandon 87 17.35.08 # this also makes changing existing stuff trivial :) 17.35.11 # since you can amend 17.35.17 # the patch was over 16 plugins's manual with only some related code modification 17.35.29 # ok 17.36.06 # that sounds like the other patch needed to be split *differently* 17.36.09 # thx :) 17.36.14 # splitting along code vs docs is a bad split 17.36.28 # splitting, say, "manual updates to make manual match behaviour" from "manual+code updates to change behaviour" is good 17.36.43 # but then you would still have a change that changed both manual and code, just a smaller one 17.37.11 # if that makes sense? 17.37.27 # i mean i didn't see the other one, i dunno. 17.37.58 Join swilde [0] (~wilde@aktaia.intevation.org) 17.39.48 # Torne: there was the case http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12492#comment42223 17.40.38 # anyway i don't thing this is a big issue to have different opinio on that matters 17.41.07 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.41.14 # I think you misinterpreted what you were told there 17.41.22 # and actually, they were telling you the same thing I am :) 17.41.36 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@207.144.201.128) 17.41.44 Join factor [0] (~factor@74.197.205.204) 17.42.20 # "Each *functional change* gets its own patch" <- is what i just said, basically :) 17.42.36 # Changing the keymap of the plugin is a functional change, but it includes changing the documentation to match 17.43.06 # arg ok now I get it 17.43.12 # and while in this case it's not a big issue, it *can* be 17.43.25 # the point is basically that *if* one of your current two patches was committed without the other, it would introduce a bug 17.43.28 # because the manual would no longer match the code 17.44.10 # so yeah, for the task there, having one change that finalises the keymap, then another change that adds all the keymaps to the docs, is pretty reasonable 17.44.29 # because the fuze+ is not documented currently, so changing the keymap in the code doesn't make the docs wrong 17.44.46 # ok 17.45.19 # that's why I haven't committed the manual patch even though I +2'd it 17.45.30 # indeed. 17.45.32 # thx for havong taking time to explain this 17.45.35 # it's generally okay to have patches with *one* way dependencies 17.45.40 # i.e. the first patch must be applied before the second patch 17.45.43 # because that's often unavoidable 17.45.46 # but two-way dependencies are bad 17.45.53 # the first patch should always be able to be applied *without* the second patch 17.45.58 # otherwise it's a bad patch series, usually ;) 17.46.11 # no problem 17.46.21 # We have, historically, not been very rigorous about this kind of thing 17.46.33 # because we've done code review in a fairly limited and adhoc way 17.46.45 # now that we hav ebetter tools it's also helpful if people are careful about how they structure their changes 17.46.55 # :) 17.47.25 # :) 17.47.36 # also it's a good excuse for me to nag people about it 17.47.46 # in order to satisfy my personal desire for us to have better structured changes :p 17.48.39 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 17.51.02 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 17.52.52 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 17.54.19 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@207.144.201.128) 17.56.04 Join nosa [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-42-101.clt.bellsouth.net) 17.57.48 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@vit94-1-82-67-248-70.fbx.proxad.net) 17.57.48 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 17.57.48 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 17.58.28 Quit nosa-j (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 17.58.28 Nick nosa is now known as nosa-j (~m00k@adsl-74-235-42-101.clt.bellsouth.net) 18.01.52 # JdGordon: can you look into g#89 too? 18.04.30 Join anewuser [0] (~anewuser@186.93.172.254) 18.04.31 Quit anewuser (Changing host) 18.04.31 Join anewuser [0] (~anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 18.06.43 # jlbiasini: are you going to update g#86? 18.09.33 Join MasterK [0] (~a9f45942@www.haxx.se) 18.09.41 # Hello? 18.09.52 # hello 18.10.18 # Is there a Tech support specific IRC or can I get help here 18.10.56 # here's tech support for Rockbox if anything 18.12.38 # ok. I'm trying to install Rockbox on my iPod 5g. Currently im stuck trying to format it. I'm running a Mac so when I try to install the Partition table it's says permission denied. 18.14.02 # Any suggestions 18.14.11 # use rockbox utility 18.14.20 # I need to format it first 18.14.51 # its currently HFS+ and it has to be FAT32 18.15.07 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 18.15.48 # kugel: done 18.16.38 # Do you know what I need to do? 18.17.01 # jlbiasini: petur meant to put it to the beginning of the function, not file 18.17.35 # actually it also works like that 18.17.42 # yes it does 18.18.18 # please make it static then 18.18.20 # isn't it better to have the context used at the beginning just with all the definition? 18.18.25 # ok 18.19.54 # err This is so frustrated 18.20.00 # frustrating* 18.20.07 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.6) 18.20.34 # MasterK: I think the docs recommend to use itunes on a windows machine 18.21.45 # you probably need root privileges to touch the partition table 18.22.21 # I have root privalges and i cant use a windows machine atm 18.23.30 Quit y4n (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.24.16 Join y4n [0] (y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 18.25.13 Join megal0maniac [0] (~megal0man@196.213.53.209) 18.26.25 Quit megal0maniac (Client Quit) 18.26.47 Join megal0maniac [0] (~megal0man@196.213.53.209) 18.27.13 # kugel: done 18.27.48 Quit merbanan (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 18.32.55 # Commit a869d4a in rockbox by 03Thomas Martitz: (Author: Jean-Louis Biasini) LAMP plugin PLA integration (main code + manual) 18.33.30 # thx 18.33.39 # jlbiasini: awesome :) are you going to work on more plugins? 18.34.02 # kugel: what do you suggest to be the next victim? 18.34.48 # I thing application are the most wanted and probably simplier to do, but which one to go on with? 18.34.58 # stats, rockblox and superdom are in my notes. perhaps there are more 18.35.25 # it'd say there are likely more 18.35.34 # a869d4a build result: 151 errors, 1 warnings (Jean-Louis Biasini committed) 18.35.47 Quit Strife89 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.35.50 # 1 warning??? 18.35.58 # hmm 18.36.02 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@207.144.201.128) 18.36.39 # the warning can be ignored 18.36.47 # the one that happens on the ondio 18.36.53 # I've tested the compilation with rockboxui, there was no problem 18.37.18 # there are some failing targets 18.37.21 # http://build.rockbox.org/dev.cgi 18.37.39 # rockblox has some extra keys for dropping and pausing etc. I don't think that it is a good candidate for PLA 18.38.09 # ok it seems some pla are not defined 18.38.18 # for all target 18.39.53 # pixelma: oh, typo. I meant rockblox1d 18.40.09 # heh, ok 18.40.14 Quit MasterK (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 18.40.30 # ok some target don't get mapped I have to investigate why 18.40.31 # jlbiasini: it looks like you removed an #endif too much. the targets that fail are !LCD_COLOR && !BACKLIGHT_BRIGHTNESS 18.41.10 # or something 18.41.51 # yeah that clear I forget those case 18.43.00 # I think the check the first #ifdef can be removed now 18.43.27 # yeah I'll will try to compile without it 18.45.03 Join WalkGood [0] (~4@unaffiliated/walkgood) 18.45.26 Join MasterK [0] (~a9f45942@www.haxx.se) 18.46.10 # alright. So I logged into Root and now it says operation not supported instead of permission denied 18.46.12 # some targets don't need the keys to set backlight brightness or colour though 18.46.19 Part jlbiasini 18.46.33 # with PLA all targets have a keymap so the the ifdef around can be removed 18.47.20 Quit Strife89 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.47.28 # MasterK: what exactly are you trying? 18.49.14 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@207.144.201.128) 18.50.05 # meh, why did he leave now? 18.50.47 Join jlbiasini [0] (~metaphys@d86-32-96-55.cust.tele2.at) 18.51.05 # jlbiasini: will you fix the problem? 18.51.22 # i'm on it 18.54.02 Join leavittx_ [0] (~leavittx@89.221.199.187) 18.55.14 Quit leavittx_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.57.07 # has the change to rockblox been tested on a target? 18.57.50 # as I *believe* on some "L" or "Life" is on the background picture , not sure though 18.58.41 # or maybe on more than one target even 18.58.41 Quit MasterK (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 18.59.36 # kugel: you should revert the patch till I find asolution it seems more difficult thant I thought 18.59.48 # :( 19.01.20 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.01.33 # jlbiasini: the fix is trivial actually 19.02.07 Quit jm (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 19.02.12 # Does anyone know where I can find rockbox utility 1.2.12? 19.02.17 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@e179037190.adsl.alicedsl.de) 19.02.26 # Commit b047872 in rockbox by 03Thomas Martitz: Fix reds. No need for #ifdef to save buttons anymore. 19.04.29 # I'm not sure this actually fix all the problem 19.04.44 # b047872 build result: 4 errors, 1 warnings (Thomas Martitz committed) 19.05.15 # at leat errors are gone 19.05.20 # oh, wow, it was brickmania... IIRC it's not on the background so alright there. Sorry for the false alarm 19.06.07 # oh ok this looks to work 19.07.12 # the Ondio error is weird though 19.07.41 # Someone? 19.08.22 # megal0maniac: have you looked on http://download.rockbox.org? 19.10.55 # pixelma: yes this weird 19.11.42 # seems to be related to one build client 19.12.25 # the last three with errors were built on rigaud-dannya 19.16.06 # Someone should test lamp on clip+ because on rockboxui it looks like it doesn't works - reason why I thought I could solve the problem 19.16.15 # *not 19.16.26 # *not solve the problem 19.17.59 # I wondered what happened on these targets if you press the buttons that are definded for functions that don't exist (like setting backlight brightness etc.) 19.19.08 # yes this is another concern I had about just cutting this #if out 19.20.47 Quit Thra11 (Read error: Operation timed out) 19.20.51 # gevaerts: Yes, and I swear it wasn't there. Which was why I was so confused. The download page still lists and links to 1.2.11 though 19.21.51 Quit anewuser (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.23.15 Join anewuser [0] (~anewuser@186.93.172.254) 19.23.16 Quit anewuser (Changing host) 19.23.16 Join anewuser [0] (~anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 19.24.00 Quit anewuser (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.24.09 # pixelma: well on ipod 1G/2G rockboxui those dead key are not doing anything and pressing them do no harm 19.25.32 Join anewuser [0] (~anewuser@186.93.172.254) 19.25.32 Quit anewuser (Changing host) 19.25.32 Join anewuser [0] (~anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 19.26.08 # on clip+ rockboxui Lamp seems to display a black screen unstead of a white one... 19.31.17 # sounds like an unrelated problem though 19.32.05 # maybe a difference between sim and target even (having to do with the HAVE_NEGATIVE_LCD or so) 19.33.05 # and LCD_INVERT 19.35.07 Quit Strife89 (*.net *.split) 19.35.07 Quit ps-auxw (*.net *.split) 19.35.07 Quit jordan` (*.net *.split) 19.35.50 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@183.36.125.91.dyn.plus.net) 19.37.07 # Lamp isn't all that useful on the Clip+, though. 19.43.13 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@207.144.201.128) 19.43.14 Join ps-auxw [0] (~arneb@2001:470:c807:0:1532:4e5f:2ad3:4123) 19.43.14 Join jordan` [0] (~gromit@2001:660:3302:2826:225:90ff:fe20:d9a8) 19.43.25 # pixelma: the actions are still #ifdef'd 19.43.27 Quit megal0maniac (Quit: Leaving) 19.47.28 Quit dv_ (Remote host closed the connection) 19.48.53 # nice, current mingw-cross-env doesn't seem to have issues with screenreaders anymore :) 20.19.39 Join cliptester [0] (~chatzilla@ool-45773afb.dyn.optonline.net) 20.22.47 Part jlbiasini 20.23.08 # Torne: does the git patch author have to match one of the addresses registered with gerrit? 20.23.20 # how does this work with http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UsingGit#Applying_a_patch_from_someone_else ? 20.23.50 # Lalufu: I think it's only the committer, not the author (which is tracked separately by git) 20.24.27 Join bieber [0] (~quassel@169-75.97-97.tampabay.res.rr.com) 20.25.02 # I've just tried to push a patch for review that has an author address not in gerrit, but is signed-off-by one that is. 20.25.22 # the push was rejected because the author email was not registered with my user 20.28.07 # ah, if you're pushing for a review that's possible. 20.28.31 # * bluebrother leaves that to Torne for a more qualified answer :) 20.28.35 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 20.29.16 # but if you did that yourself it could still be the committer -- try git show --pretty=fuller to see author an dcommitter 20.30.48 # Author: is the address not in gerrit 20.30.53 # Commit: is the address that is 20.31.08 # hmm. No idea. 20.35.58 Quit cliptester (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 10.0/20120129021758]) 20.36.13 # maybe the mail address is written using different casing? 20.38.35 Quit y4n (Quit: HOLY SHIT! WE'RE ALL JUST LIVING ON A GINORMOUS FUCKING SPINNING ROCK FLOATING THROUGH SPACE CIRCLING A BIG FUCKING BALL OF FIRE!!!) 20.41.03 Quit efyx (Remote host closed the connection) 20.42.15 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~LemonBoy@ppp-177-11.26-151.libero.it) 20.45.38 # it specifically complains about the author address, not about the committer address. 20.47.03 # http://pastebin.com/GP5zg6Pw 20.49.26 # Lalufu: where did you try to push to? 20.49.50 # you need to be a committer to be able to push to anything other than refs/for/master 20.53.26 # I tried this, according to the wiki page: git push origin HEAD:refs/for/master 20.57.13 # Commit 1ab9d14 in rockbox by 03Michael Sevakis: Move to compressor out of dsp.c and into its own source to reduce DSP clutter. 20.58.13 Join jm [0] (jm@epicsol.org) 20.59.51 # 1ab9d14 build result: 8 errors, 2 warnings (Michael Sevakis committed) 21.01.22 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.04.21 Quit fs-bluebot (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.08.19 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g224239207.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.09.17 # pamaury: ok, I found the reason for the crash. You're calling bugp(), which in turn calls exit() ... 21.10.16 # so we pretty much have a problem here when including the functionality from somewhere else 21.10.59 Quit ender` (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.11.16 # i.e. Rockbox Utilty does not crash at all :) 21.11.33 Join ender` [0] (~ender@foo.eternallybored.org) 21.18.26 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: Bye ;)) 21.19.11 Join curtism [0] (~curtis@bas11-montreal02-1128531121.dsl.bell.ca) 21.24.14 Join webguest84 [0] (~b27e369d@www.haxx.se) 21.28.34 # Commit d23d164 in rockbox by 03Dominik Riebeling: imxtools: use rand() instead of /dev/random. 21.31.13 # d23d164 build result: 8 errors, 2 warnings (Dominik Riebeling committed) 21.31.39 # huh? 21.31.47 # ah, not my errors :) 21.36.00 Quit leavittx (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 21.37.39 Join saratoga [0] (980329c2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.41.194) 21.40.30 # so the main things missing from the Zip port is the CabbieV2 theme and the plugins? 21.43.24 # Lalufu: You need to be a committer to forge author address 21.43.26 # currently 21.43.27 # and an image for the manual, and a free image for build.rockbox.org 21.43.39 # i.e. if you are not a committer you can only upload patches which are both AUthor: and COmmitter: you 21.43.48 # i can change this if people think it's a good idea 21.44.08 # but not right now as i need to fix my server which now has several threads blocked forever in teh kernel :) 21.44.25 Quit Torne (Quit: rebooty time) 21.50.31 # ok, I've uploaded a mkimxboot and current Rockbox Utility binary for Windows to the usual location. In case some user needs a working one :) 21.51.11 Join Torne [0] (~torne@rockbox/developer/Torne) 21.53.08 # do i need to change it? :) 21.53.33 Quit webguest84 (Quit: CGI:IRC) 21.56.21 # the forums are pretty broken at the moment 21.56.33 # you can't really read anything in General 22.09.46 # saratoga: what a coincidence - i was just about to announce in here that i was about to take them down for a bit to apply some changes ;) 22.10.12 # nice 22.10.22 # Let's hope they're nice :) 22.10.26 # these are the fixes to the filtering software? 22.10.45 # saratoga: these are gevaerts's recent changes yeah 22.10.52 # cool 22.10.53 Join dv_ [0] (~quassel@chello080108009040.14.11.vie.surfer.at) 22.11.38 # for anyone else who didnt catch that - forums are going down for a bit 22.12.42 # gogogo 22.18.40 # Torne: it would be nice if non-commiters could at least upload patches for review that do not have their own address as Author: (but as Commit:) 22.19.05 Quit WalkGood () 22.25.06 Join nosa [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-42-101.clt.bellsouth.net) 22.25.08 # bertrik: i wrote the original cabbiev2 default theme code many years ago, if i get a chance this week i'll try and see if i can get it working on the zip 22.27.36 Quit nosa-j (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.27.37 Nick nosa is now known as nosa-j (~m00k@adsl-74-235-42-101.clt.bellsouth.net) 22.30.22 # Commit ae7b596 in rockbox by 03Jonathan Gordon: (Author: Wieland Hoffmann) brickmania: Use short Lvl %d level indicator if needed 22.33.04 # ae7b596 build result: 12 errors, 3 warnings (Wieland Hoffmann committed) 22.33.45 # CIA-10: s/committed/authored/ I guess 22.36.32 # damn you Wieland 22.36.56 # ukleinek: nope 22.37.15 # saratoga: ? 22.37.42 # blaming that guy for Jdgordon's commit 22.38.11 # saratoga: did you look at the build table? it's not this guys fault either 22.38.20 # ah no i didn't 22.38.34 # Commit ed4eb9a in www by 03Frank Gevaerts: Add rigaud-dannya to blockedclients 22.39.41 # gevaerts: perhaps gcc is wrong on his system, he seems to be running a rather old version (for sims) 22.40.01 # or, hmm 22.40.11 # kugel: there are other people building sims with 4.4 22.40.22 # it errors on a generated .c file 22.41.33 # saratoga: you wrote cabbie? I wasnt aware of that! 22.41.59 # kugel: no, i wrote the code to have a default theme 22.42.13 # i actually tried to make the default theme cabbiev1 22.42.49 # which was basically just a monochrome orange and black theme, but lots of people changed it into cabbiev2 22.45.42 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.6) 22.45.49 # actually funny to think that until almost the AMS port days we had no real default theme 22.47.31 # cabbiev2 is a bit older that the AMS port isnt it? 22.48.08 # I remember cabbiev2 coming about when the e200v1 port was being worked on 22.48.40 # i think it was around january 2008 22.49.12 # 2008-02-23: New default theme: cabbie 2.0. 22.52.07 # Commit eadfb64 in www by 03Thomas Martitz: As per d684858 in rockbox, the fuze+ should be unstable. Fixes FS#12581. 22.52.10 Quit mystica555_ (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 23.01.24 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.01.30 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 23.07.39 Quit Rob2223 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 23.12.05 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p5B024934.dip.t-dialin.net) 23.13.35 # bluebrother: bugp means bug :) And it does not crash ! Just exists 23.15.12 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 23.16.32 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.55=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 23.19.31 # hey gevaerts: did you get a reply from rasher since then? 23.19.46 # no 23.20.44 # do you think he reads the IRC though or should I PM him on the forum? 23.20.59 # Normally he's on irc 23.21.53 # [Saint]: I'm trying to get your latest CabbieV2 touchscreen theme to work, but am having troubles... 23.25.51 # [Saint]: In the cabbiev2.cfg file, the paths are all /.rockbox/theme/foo and /.rockbox/icons/bar but on my phone it's /rockbox/ i.e. no .rockbox 23.28.09 Join [Saint_] [0] (~Saint]@101.98.129.152) 23.28.09 Quit [Saint_] (Changing host) 23.28.09 Join [Saint_] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 23.32.04 # <[Saint_]> evilnick: Hmmm? 23.32.21 # <[Saint_]> THere's a reasonably high possibility I broke something... 23.32.44 # <[Saint_]> I wouldn't stress too much about it being anything you did :) 23.33.13 # I have tried unzipping the file on device and on my laptop but when I switch to the theme then it reverts to the peakmeter-laden built-in theme 23.33.52 # With touchscreen skip/pause buttons just under the peakmeter! 23.34.15 # <[Saint_]> that's...interesting. 23.34.58 # * evilnick tries out a previous revision to make sure that it's not his *build* of RB that's the problem 23.35.14 # * evilnick tries out a previous revision [of the theme] to make sure that it's not his *build* of RB that's the problem 23.35.41 # <[Saint_]> I can't do anything about it "right now(TM)". But its almost a 100% certainty I messed something tiny up, which hilariously has the ability to bork *everything*. 23.36.22 # <[Saint_]> revert to *7 for the now, see if that "just works" and I'll have a look when I've woken up some more. 23.38.39 # Will do 23.38.43 Quit pamaury (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.40.01 # JdGordon: is there some reason the WPS code can't display a splash error screen when WPS loading fails? 23.40.08 # to let the user know something went wrong 23.40.35 # <[Saint_]> saratoga: Oh...I've been here :) 23.40.46 # * [Saint_] wishes saratoga better luck. :P 23.41.00 # IIUC right now we just sort of fail, which is a bit confusing 23.41.21 # <[Saint_]> "The fallback theme *IS* the "something went wrong" prompt"...apparently. 23.42.18 # Which is not terribly useful on RaaAa as with the default fontsize, this renders RB uncontrollable until you uninstall/reinstall it 23.43.24 # a simple "WPS Syntax error" splash screen would be nice IMO 23.43.26 # <[Saint_]> If you have a silly device without physical buttons, that is :P 23.43.32 # <[Saint_]> evilnick: ^ 23.48.05 # the font and also the list padding are independent of the wps, so it should even work if the wps failed 23.48.44 # in the worst case the font is tiny but the list padding should retain rockbox controllable 23.51.29 # <[Saint_]> Except when the theme turns list padding off...can't account for that. 23.51.45 # <[Saint_]> Though, the fallback should "undo" that, I guess. 23.52.14 # <[Saint_]> Themes *will* turn list padding off...lets face it, its annoying. 23.52.26 # [Saint_]: Hmmm, v7 doesn't work for me either, so I'll try a different build to narrow down what's not working 23.52.58 # <[Saint_]> evilnick: If that doesn't work out, clearing out theme related dirs might be in order. 23.53.45 # [Saint_]: I'm deleting the entire rockbox folder each time to be on the safe side! 23.54.12 # <[Saint_]> Oh...Hmmm.