--- Log for 19.02.112 Server: asimov.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot- Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 5 hours and 25 minutes ago 00.01.49 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: Bye ;)) 00.01.51 # is there documentation on how the gitweb URLs are constructed? 00.02.09 # i.e. some POST value mapping? 00.02.14 Quit Guinness (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 00.05.03 Join SynrG [0] (~synrg@blk-222-91-184.eastlink.ca) 00.05.05 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p5B0259BC.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.06.11 Join kadoban [0] (~kadoban@ip98-165-177-158.ph.ph.cox.net) 00.10.21 # hmm, RockboxInfo() should make much more use of regexps IMO 00.20.16 Join Guinness [0] (Slayer@c-68-55-111-159.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 00.27.49 # bertrik : how do I use or see this "RDS clock-time support" on the Clip Zip? 00.28.08 Quit Thra11 (Remote host closed the connection) 00.28.13 # it's currently only shown in the FM radio debug screen 00.29.03 # CT:0 ? 00.29.12 Quit SynrG (Changing host) 00.29.13 Join SynrG [0] (~synrg@debian/developer/synrg) 00.30.09 # can this feature be manually enabled or disabled? I don't really understand how it works 00.32.39 # it'll be something different when a RDS time message arrives (usually once a minute) 00.33.03 # Now I see CT:1329611580 00.35.31 # how to interpret this number? 00.36.04 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 00.36.21 Join superlinuxpro [0] (~asdf@adsl-74-160-162-66.asm.bellsouth.net) 00.37.05 Quit ender (Quit: Just as the absurd acts which prohibited the sale of game were virtually repealed by the poacher, just as many absurd revenue acts have been virtually repealed by the smuggler, so will this law be virtually repealed by piratical booksellers. -- Thomas B) 00.38.52 # lebellium, it's a UTC unix time timestamp, you can put it in http://www.onlineconversion.com/unix_time.htm for example 00.39.17 # thanks :) 00.39.51 # and in the future we will be able to set the time and date from the RDS data? 00.43.20 # beginner here. Does anyone here know any functions for getting user input? i have a sansa clip v2. I want to ask the user to "input 2 numbers". Then i will add them and display the sum 00.48.16 # lebellium, yes, that's the idea eventually, but the details of how exactly to do that have not been worked out 00.52.04 # bertrik: cool idea, good luck :) 00.54.04 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 11.0/20120215222917]) 00.54.05 Join Ebert [0] (~EbErT@99-98-153-115.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net) 00.55.55 Quit bertrik (Read error: Operation timed out) 01.06.39 # [Saint]: sorry, i havnt had a chance to look at it at all 01.08.24 Join CaptainKewl [0] (captainkew@207-237-110-248.c3-0.nyr-ubr2.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 01.17.16 Join hillshum [0] (~hillshum@75-162-68-142.slkc.qwest.net) 01.22.49 Join passstab [0] (~v@c-68-80-37-73.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 01.24.03 # hi 01.24.37 # i have a gen 2 ipod nano running 3.10 01.25.12 # i tryed to listen to the command line podcast 01.25.32 # http://thecommandline.net/ 01.26.49 # when i do the device freezes 01.27.23 # on the playback screen 01.27.44 # @0:00 01.28.02 Join tufur [0] (~phone@netblock-68-183-64-67.dslextreme.com) 01.28.37 # the only way i know to get out of it is rebooting 01.28.58 # other oggcasts work fine 01.29.18 # Does it have big album art? 01.30.00 # lemme check 01.30.54 # no 01.31.22 # wait maybe 01.31.39 # hm, wait. Can you give a link to an exact file that fails? 01.32.53 # http://thecommandline.net/2012/01/08/at_all_levels/ 01.33.21 # So http://feeds.thecommandline.net/~r/cmdln/~5/XAorhWR-Ygk/cmdln.net_2012-01-08.mp3 ? 01.33.32 # does anyone know how to paste text without sending it in mIRC? 01.33.38 # oops 01.34.23 # superlinuxpro: try a pastebin site, like http://pastebin.com/ 01.35.29 # gevaerts i mean when i press ^v it sends it. like if i had pressed enter 01.36.34 Quit kadoban (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 01.36.34 # superlinuxpro: no idea then. Maybe mirc has a support channel? 01.37.16 # http://www.archive.org/download/Tclp2012-01-08InnerChapterAtAllLevels/cmdln.net_2012-01-08.ogg 01.37.21 # thats it 01.37.51 # * gevaerts downloads 01.38.08 # superlinuxpro: regarding paste i use http://paste.debian.net/ 01.40.46 # passstab: I'm not sure. Rockbox does have issues with ogg files with large album art, and that file does have album art, but it's only 25K which isn't *that* much... Can you submit a bug report? 01.40.55 # * gevaerts isn't a codec specialist 01.41.13 # ok thanks 01.42.04 # BTW anyone here use bash/mashpodder on there device? 02.07.11 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.55=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 02.23.25 Nick passstab is now known as passstab|torrent (~v@c-68-80-37-73.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 02.23.39 Nick passstab|torrent is now known as passstab (~v@c-68-80-37-73.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 02.28.45 Quit hillshum (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 02.36.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 02.45.18 Nick kaner_ is now known as kaner (~kaner@zzz.strace.org) 03.10.30 Quit tufur (Remote host closed the connection) 03.42.25 Part superlinuxpro 03.47.35 Quit Ebert (Quit: Ebert) 03.59.38 Join curtism [0] (~curtis@bas11-montreal02-1128531121.dsl.bell.ca) 04.12.34 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@p579074EE.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) 04.12.35 Quit TheSeven (Changing host) 04.12.35 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.12.35 Quit [7] (Disconnected by services) 04.26.09 Quit anewuser (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.30.53 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.30.55 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.31.00 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.31.18 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.31.20 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.31.22 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.36.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.55.37 Quit Poodlemastah (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 04.58.23 Quit passstab (Remote host closed the connection) 05.50.40 Join Rob2223 [0] (~Miranda@p5B025C4A.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.53.55 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 05.55.18 Quit T44 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.06.02 Join limescout [0] (~david@c-69-242-30-52.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) 06.08.36 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@f049002020.adsl.alicedsl.de) 06.10.50 Quit [Saint_] (Quit: Quit) 06.12.32 Join [Saint_] [0] (~Saint]@101.98.129.152) 06.12.33 Quit [Saint_] (Changing host) 06.12.33 Join [Saint_] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 06.13.27 Quit limescout (Quit: Bye!) 06.16.37 Quit [Saint] (Quit: Quit) 06.16.49 Nick [Saint_] is now known as [Saint] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 06.27.09 Join [Saint_] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 06.30.40 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 06.30.54 Nick [Saint_] is now known as [Saint] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 06.36.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 06.39.22 # Commit 9a25a6f in rockbox by 03Michael Sevakis: beep/mixer code: Code police a bit. 06.42.02 # 9a25a6f build result: All green 07.00.33 Quit jdgord (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 07.00.47 Join jdgord [0] (~jdgord@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 07.00.48 Quit jdgord (Remote host closed the connection) 07.13.10 Join [Saint_] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 07.16.35 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 07.24.21 Join Poodlemastah [0] (~Poodlemas@h-241-102.a218.priv.bahnhof.se) 07.38.42 # <[Saint_]> [Saint_] "Mmmmm souvlaki...", cat "Hey, is that for me?", cat "souvlaki?", cat "can haz souvlaki?", cat "DAMN You...LOOK AT ME!!" 07.42.37 # * [Saint_] looks at the channel and facepalms... 07.44.13 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@149.254.61.157) 08.04.17 Join leavittx [0] (~leavittx@cl-534.mbx-01.si.sixxs.net) 08.04.22 Quit curtism (Quit: Live Long and Prosper) 08.36.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 08.56.42 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@pD9E43BDE.dip.t-dialin.net) 09.13.42 Join captainkwel [0] (captainkew@207-237-110-248.c3-0.nyr-ubr2.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 09.16.46 Quit CaptainKewl (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 09.17.04 Nick [Saint_] is now known as [Saint] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 09.20.05 Join icarusfactor [0] (~factor@r74-195-184-248.msk1cmtc01.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 09.20.33 Quit factor (Disconnected by services) 09.20.41 Nick icarusfactor is now known as factor (~factor@r74-195-184-248.msk1cmtc01.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 09.35.58 Quit captainkwel (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 09.39.06 Quit robin0800 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 09.46.20 # * [Saint] completes "RaaA Cabbie: verbose identifier Edition" 09.46.48 # <[Saint]> (for the three currently supported resolutions) 09.48.35 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 09.49.47 Join factor [0] (~factor@r74-195-184-248.msk1cmtc01.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 09.50.05 # <[Saint]> Those of you even slightly interested in what I'm doing, now, should be able to look at my code without wanting to vomit...*and* also be able to vaguely grasp whats going on. WIN! 09.51.43 Join y4n [0] (y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 09.51.57 # <[Saint]> Its been hard for me to adapt, as %xd(Aa) always seemed a lot more elegant and simple than %xd(verbose_identifier, 1) 09.52.13 # <[Saint]> but...times a'changin' 09.59.28 # * [Saint] wonders about updating examples found on the wiki 10.00.36 # <[Saint]> I have a feeling newcomers don't immediately recognize the benefits of the skin engine as its not immediately obvious you can do amazing things with it. 10.01.22 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~LemonBoy@ppp-92-30.26-151.libero.it) 10.01.24 # <[Saint]> there's no real examples of "how to do fun stuff" unless you download and trawl through existing themes. 10.01.50 # * [Saint] now has a new distraction. 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How should we handle M versions in Rockbox Utility? Previously we sent that to the server 12.42.50 # which makes it impossible to generate a voice file for an M build 12.43.04 # we could simply drop the M and use the base version instead. 12.43.21 # which might be a better (as in more fault tolerant) solution 12.47.44 # hm 12.48.09 # That would work, for some people 12.48.21 # i.e. those who didn't do a local commit 12.48.37 # IIRC we had builds with M in the past which were actually unmodified 12.49.06 # if someone makes a local commit the hash would be different anyway, and if it's a local commit only the server wouldn't know about it 12.49.10 # so no problem here. 12.49.32 # OTOH we could bundle the genlang output with rockbox.zip 12.49.39 # * gevaerts nods 12.49.49 # That seems saner I think 12.50.00 # which of course will increase file size, but remove the need to download data just for creating a voice file 12.50.18 # we could have that data zipped in rockbox.zip, so the normal user doesn't loose much space 12.51.09 # <[Saint]> Is it that much uncompressed? 12.51.11 # How big is the file after compression? 12.51.15 # (and before) 12.51.35 # no idea, haven't checked yet. Was throwing ideas around just yet ;-) 12.51.43 # * bluebrother goes figuring 12.56.57 # unfortunately such a change would mean that we still have support the old way, i.e. genlang on the server 12.57.09 # gevaerts: btw, have you found the FS entry? ;-) 12.58.35 # bluebrother: I found 12591 of them! ;) 13.03.47 Quit kadoban (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 13.06.54 # for deutsch.lang the lng file is ~12kiB, the genlang output used by Rockbox Utility is slightly larger when zipped 13.07.11 # that's for e200 13.07.52 Quit nick_p (Quit: Leaving) 13.07.56 # but since the IDs are identical for the different languages I expect a zipped version of the genlang output to be smaller than the extracted lng files 13.08.18 # which would mean something around 600kiB for e200 13.08.50 # extracted genlang output for deutsch.lang is ~40kiB 13.09.40 # so I expect a ~600k increase of rockbox.zip for that. 13.14.09 # would we tell users to put the zip on their players both zipped and extraced? 13.14.54 # no, the idea was to have some langs/genlang.zip inside of rockbox.zip, so it gets extracted to the player on installation 13.15.13 # and then have Rockbox Utility extract the required file out of it when needed 13.15.14 # ah, yes that could work i think 13.15.49 # I'm also planning to add support for tar.xz some time (though I'm planning for this since a couple of months now ...) which will decrease file size quite a bit 13.16.09 # in the tests I made some time ago tar.xz is even slightly smaller than 7z (and easier to support) 13.16.35 # storage space is not that big of a deal i think 13.17.50 # win 9 13.20.28 # otoh, would it be possible (and how hard would it be) to get that information from the lng files we already have? 13.22.03 # the lng files don't have the voice strings 13.22.14 # Commit f81100e in rockbox by 03Bertrik Sikken: make local variable current_list static 13.23.36 Join robin0800_ [0] (~robin0800@149.254.60.29) 13.23.37 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 13.24.38 # f81100e build result: 0 errors, 1 warnings (Bertrik Sikken committed) 13.25.49 Quit robin0800_ (Client Quit) 13.26.28 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@p5494714E.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.26.28 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 13.26.28 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 13.27.09 Join [Saint__] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 13.27.13 # Do we have numbers on how often voice strings are actually different from text strings? Maybe we could get away with just storing those? 13.29.19 Quit [Saint_] (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 13.29.53 Quit [Saint__] (Client Quit) 13.42.24 # a lng format that includes voice strings and Rockbox ignoring those on load would be really nice here. 13.52.14 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 13.54.12 # bluebrother: maybe an email (with changelog) to both -dev and the user ML would be useful after every rbutil release (or rather when it's actually available ;). Possibly also a forum post. 13.54.17 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@75.62.112.87.dyn.plus.net) 13.54.18 # If needed, I can volunteer for that 13.57.57 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 13.59.28 # gevaerts: good idea. I also wanted to have some changelog dialog in Rockbox Utility since long but never got around looking into it. 14.07.01 # * bluebrother finds inconsistencies in RockboxInfo() :/ 14.08.33 Quit nosa-j (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.09.59 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-26-65.clt.bellsouth.net) 14.12.58 # Commit a56f442 in rockbox by 03Dominik Riebeling: Allow overriding filename for rockbox-info.txt. 14.12.59 # Commit 557451a in rockbox by 03Dominik Riebeling: Put test objects into test specific subfolder. 14.13.00 # Commit 2dbb17d in rockbox by 03Dominik Riebeling: Initial unit test of RockboxInfo class. 14.15.09 # 2dbb17d build result: 0 errors, 1 warnings (Dominik Riebeling committed) 14.17.45 Quit Horscht (Quit: Verlassend) 14.26.46 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 14.30.07 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 14.35.49 # hmm. Is storage_read_sectors() still used by the sim? 14.36.22 # the check added in 7dd65f7d looks the wrong way round -- i.e. size and nitems swapped 14.36.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 14.36.36 # at least according to the fread man page 14.38.38 # hm, probably 14.39.40 # That's not compiled by default, but there's some code to run the sim with a filesystem image 14.40.29 # yeps, a simple test program indicates that the expected returned number is 1, not 512. 14.40.40 # * bluebrother only wanted to get rid of a warning :) 14.41.08 # is there a reason we're not using _FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 by default for the sim? 14.41.19 # (since that triggers the warning) 14.43.34 # gevaerts: how can I enable that? 14.43.53 # I don't actually know. 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Just stumbled across that myself 17.39.41 # thanks for the heads-up 17.39.52 # too bad I already pushed that commit :/ 17.43.40 Join curtism [0] (~curtis@bas11-montreal02-1128531121.dsl.bell.ca) 17.43.45 Join Guinness [0] (Slayer@c-68-55-111-159.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 17.47.14 # hmm, is there a way to make binaries show up more "dangerously" in git diff / log? Like showing them in red? 17.47.37 # Commit 2d7a4e9 in rockbox by 03Dominik Riebeling: Fix RockboxInfo() not handling git hashes correctly. 17.48.42 Quit robin0800 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 17.49.42 # 2d7a4e9 build result: 5 errors, 0 warnings (Dominik Riebeling committed) 17.50.17 # wtf? 17.57.21 Join lebellium_ [0] (~chatzilla@e179139043.adsl.alicedsl.de) 17.57.54 Quit lebellium (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.58.01 Nick lebellium_ is now known as lebellium (~chatzilla@e179139043.adsl.alicedsl.de) 18.01.22 Join robin0800 [0] (~robin0800@149.254.61.208) 18.02.38 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@LAubervilliers-153-51-14-105.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr) 18.02.38 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 18.02.38 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 18.27.38 Quit robin0800 (Quit: Leaving) 18.29.56 Quit y4n (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 18.30.16 Join y4n [0] (y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 18.31.11 Quit curtism (Quit: Live Long and Prosper) 18.31.55 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 18.32.10 Join curtism [0] (~curtis@bas11-montreal02-1128531121.dsl.bell.ca) 18.34.19 Quit leavittx (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.36.25 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 18.36.40 # * [Saint] wants to stab this theme in its ugly little plain text face 18.37.12 # <[Saint]> ...mocking me, laughing it me when my timeout checks block each other. 18.37.26 # <[Saint]> s/it/at/ 18.37.34 Join t0rc [0] (~t0rc@unaffiliated/t0rc/x-5233201) 18.40.30 # * amiconn should makes his 'themes' compatible to the current theming engine 18.41.52 # Commit c483905 in rockbox by 03Amaury Pouly: imxtools: remove most calls to bug/bugp from core library. 18.42.36 # bluebrother: I've removed most exit() in imxtools and thus in mkimxboot hopefully 18.44.04 # c483905 build result: All green 18.47.13 Join lebellium_ [0] (~chatzilla@e179139043.adsl.alicedsl.de) 18.47.54 Quit lebellium (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18.48.07 Nick lebellium_ is now known as lebellium (~chatzilla@e179139043.adsl.alicedsl.de) 18.50.45 # pamaury: great! 18.54.07 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18.54.31 # Commit 93ed5ba in rockbox by 03Dominik Riebeling: Correct filename in manifest. 18.54.31 # Commit 3aec87c in rockbox by 03Dominik Riebeling: Move Info tab content to a separate widget. 18.55.40 # <[Saint]> amiconn: how "incompatible" are we talking here... 18.56.26 # Not sure. They (actually just two text only wps'es with no other theming components) are just not loaded 18.56.52 # 3aec87c build result: All green 18.56.59 # * amiconn should check with checkwps 18.57.03 # <[Saint]> If you pastebin them, I could take a look. I'm beating my head against a brick wall here. 18.58.13 # <[Saint]> They must've been broken a while...there's been no skin breaking changes in many moons 18.58.20 # <[Saint]> (intentional ones, that is) 18.58.28 Join lebellium_ [0] (~chatzilla@e178184138.adsl.alicedsl.de) 18.59.54 Quit lebellium (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18.59.54 Nick lebellium_ is now known as lebellium (~chatzilla@e178184138.adsl.alicedsl.de) 19.00.12 # <[Saint]> Ah... lebellium, was wanting to talk to you... 19.00.28 # [Saint] yes? 19.00.43 # <[Saint]> What is it you're wanting/trying to do that (possibly) requires skin layering? 19.02.05 # <[Saint]> lets play "spot the bored coder" ;) 19.04.04 # <[Saint]> I noticed your post on the forum, and wondered "what's he trying to do...". 19.04.48 # actually in my 240*320 theme there is a mini-player in the SBS. When music playback or FM radio is off/stopped, this mini-player is hidden (by a picture). The problem is that in this case I can't display the menu viewport fullscreen. That's sad and doesn't look good 19.05.42 # more info here: http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,29371.msg186518.html#msg186518 19.05.45 # <[Saint]> you can use dynamic UI viewport in this case. 19.06.28 # yes 19.06.32 # sure 19.06.42 # but it can't display over a picture 19.07.17 # <[Saint]> Ohhhhh...right, gotcha. 19.07.51 Quit MrFrost (Quit: CGI:IRC) 19.08.11 # only JdGordon can save me if he manages to finish his skin layering project^^ 19.09.17 # <[Saint]> the "fix" is to just not have the picture there, and display the UI fullscreen when the miniplayer isn't present....or...incorporate the image into the backdrop and cover it with the miniplayer viewport when it is present. 19.09.53 # * [Saint] would go for the latter. 19.09.57 # the 1st solution is what I use for the same theme on Clip Zip. There is not pic to hide the mini-player 19.11.08 # the latter I'm not sure I see what you mean. I don't think I can get the same thing (white background + album art + id3tags) doing that? 19.11.37 # <[Saint]> right...that makes it more difficult. 19.11.51 # <[Saint]> You didn't mention album art was the "picture" ;) 19.12.18 # <[Saint]> yeah...bummer, you're kinda screwed there :-S 19.14.10 # Yep... so I'm just crossing the fingers for JdGordon to have time sooner or later to get done with his very interesting skin engine improvement project :) 19.14.35 # <[Saint]> You know he's getting married in ~5 months, right? :) 19.14.51 # ah? 19.14.55 # no did know about that 19.14.57 # ! 19.15.01 # did not* 19.15.14 # <[Saint]> Time isn't his thing at the moment. ;) 19.15.21 # I understand then 19.16.20 # is he the only one working on the skings engine or do other people have the skills? 19.16.57 # hi 19.17.05 # <[Saint]> there's been a few tags implemented by others here and there, but *most* of it is his work, yeah. 19.17.18 # <[Saint]> kugel did some significant work earlyon too. 19.17.24 # <[Saint]> *early on 19.17.27 Quit stoffel (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 19.20.49 # ok :) 19.21.29 # i have a ipod nano g2 19.21.54 # trying to play this causes problems 19.21.58 # http://ia600809.us.archive.org/12/items/Tclp2012-01-08InnerChapterAtAllLevels/cmdln.net_2012-01-08.ogg 19.22.14 # other files work fine 19.22.36 # <[Saint]> first guess...massive embedded album art? 19.22.38 # i run rockbox 3.10 19.23.10 # i don't think so 19.25.08 # <[Saint]> Bah! Silly Chrome...*download* it... 19.25.15 # not sure how to check 19.25.27 # why chrome? 19.25.46 # <[Saint]> Oh, don't worry...I was talking to my browser. 19.26.16 # right click the file? 19.26.30 # yeah, there's e embedded albumart in that file 19.26.50 # is it large? 19.27.33 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@pD9E43BDE.dip.t-dialin.net) 19.28.38 # not sure, just checked with ogginfo, the gui program for tagging i had seems to have vanished and i don't recall what it was called 19.30.11 # i came on yesterday with the same problem and gevaerts said it was small 19.30.25 # yeah, about 33k 19.30.38 # so that shouldn't be the problem 19.31.41 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.6) 19.32.01 Quit parafin (Quit: So long and thanks for all the fish) 19.32.08 # passstab: hmm, there was a bug in 3.10 with this i think, could you try a current build? 19.32.20 # sure 19.33.11 # thinking of it: any news about DevCon2012? 19.35.22 # should i use the git RButil? 19.36.36 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 19.38.48 # passstab: there's no need to, unless you are affected by one of the bugs that have been fixed since. See the changelog on the wiki page for details 19.40.19 # nah i was just wondering if the dev rbutil should go with the current build 19.42.11 # no. We had Rockbox Utility tied to the Rockbox release in the past, but that's history since 2 years or so (which is a good thing) 19.44.38 Join lorenzo92 [0] (~chatzilla@host181-172-dynamic.245-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 19.45.23 Join Deep_Bluesy [0] (~chatzilla@c-76-29-130-12.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) 19.46.25 Part Deep_Bluesy 19.50.45 # is it supposed to do ROLO executing for a long time? 19.53.40 # <[Saint]> it shouldn't take any longer than a normal boot. 19.53.47 # <[Saint]> restarting it is fine. 19.53.58 # <[Saint]> menu+select 19.54.29 # it works ! 19.54.36 # thank all 19.54.59 # <3 rockbox and rockbox devs 19.55.03 # b 19.55.13 Quit passstab (Remote host closed the connection) 19.56.04 # <[Saint]> love those "bugs"....always satisfying knowing there's not actually some mysterious force cursing a given file. 19.59.57 # but there is! see fs#12563 19.59.57 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12563 3.ogg file won't play (bugs, unconfirmed) 20.00.23 Join kadoban [0] (~kadoban@ip98-165-177-158.ph.ph.cox.net) 20.01.56 # the curse is named embedded album art and the design of the tremor lib 20.02.31 # * bertrik orders MrSomeone to rewrite it 20.02.37 Join parafin [0] (parafin@paraf.in) 20.02.53 # hmmmm 20.03.11 # there's a third part, the ogg/vorbis spec 20.04.09 # quick question: do I need special permission to post on gerrit? is it the same as flyspray? it the latter obsolete? 20.04.30 # before some limits were put in tremor it was possible to create a perfectly spec compliant file that would cause tremor to exhaust the whole adress space available on a 32 bit machine 20.04.31 # lorenzo92: no, no, yes and no :) 20.05.03 # gevaerts: quick question, quick answer ;) 20.05.30 # four answers to three questions? ;-) 20.05.30 # lorenzo92: you need to have a gerrit account, but you can just create one. Flyspray is intended to become obsolete for patches (but it isn't really yet, although I prefer gerrit), but not for bugs 20.05.41 # bluebrother: the "yes and no" was one answer :) 20.05.54 # hehe thanks you all :) 20.05.58 # gevaerts: I thought that :) 20.06.21 # but it's been kinda funny on the first read ;-) 20.06.36 # [Saint]: my medieval theme is being annoying. The main menu only has a title 20.06.55 # isn't that enough? :D 20.07.13 # Well, to be precise, no list has more than a title 20.07.42 # bluebrother: I need to say that at first, something appeared wrong for me too :D :D 20.07.47 # <[Saint]> I can have a /look/...it actually sounds pretty likely that skinned lists somehow *have* broken. 20.08.01 # <[Saint]> especially considering the amount of interest they got. 20.08.10 # <[Saint]> ie. essentially none. 20.10.51 # Boo! 20.12.06 # yay, segfault in the sim 20.14.27 # * gevaerts starts bisecting 20.15.02 Join MrFrost [0] (~b27e4460@www.haxx.se) 20.19.28 Quit MrFrost (Client Quit) 20.30.26 Join jdgord [0] (~jdgord@rockbox/developer/JdGordon) 20.31.11 Join webguest06 [0] (~b27e4460@www.haxx.se) 20.33.47 Nick mc2739_ is now known as mc2739 (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 20.35.52 Quit webguest06 (Client Quit) 20.36.29 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 20.37.20 # jdgord: skinned lists are broken 20.37.47 # The commit that broke them is "Use buflib for all skin engine allocations" :\ 20.38.59 # 9e07ef2 20.43.13 Join Fuze_v2_webguest [0] (~5d82d6bc@www.haxx.se) 20.44.12 # ok, that can't really be expected to work even... 20.48.00 # Hello :-) sorry to bother, but I have a simpe question that is taking me long time to figre out - how do I write to systemregister 0x20 in asm? i know that there is a function in rockbox - ascodec_async_write 20.48.54 Quit Rob2223 (Quit: Rob2223) 20.53.36 # Commit 46285e7 in rockbox by 03Frank Gevaerts: Fix a nullpointer dereference in skinned lists. 20.55.37 # 46285e7 build result: 0 errors, 2 warnings (Frank Gevaerts committed) 20.57.18 # bah, another segfault :\ 21.03.58 # could that have been caught by a static analyzer? 21.04.26 # This one, yes, probably 21.04.35 # The one I'm looking at now, less likely 21.06.15 Join z180 [0] (02ca84fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.2.202.132.250) 21.06.26 # Commit 9c3ce33 in rockbox by 03Frank Gevaerts: Fix another skinned list buflib issue 21.08.35 # 9c3ce33 build result: All green 21.10.39 Quit mortalis (Quit: KVIrc 4.1.1 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 21.12.55 # [Saint]: any idea what's wrong with http://pastie.org/3416113 ? 21.13.45 # * [Saint] looks 21.13.52 # It works for the file menu, the settings menu, ..., but not the main menu 21.15.13 # The big %cs there is to basically only use my skinned list in places where I expect it to work 21.15.25 # * [Saint] nods. 21.16.30 # <[Saint]> I can't see anything immediately wrong with it. 21.16.59 # skinned lists still seem a bit flaky in general 21.18.46 # <[Saint]> I can "code poilice" a bit, but that's all. Declaring "e" for pre-loading seems unnecessary...since its not displayed conditionally. 21.19.38 # <[Saint]> unless I'm missing something not present in the paste, it could just as easily be a static viewport. 21.19.57 # It could, yes 21.19.58 # <[Saint]> *police, too. 21.20.23 # <[Saint]> This probably changing *nothing*, but, ...it bugged me looking at it. 21.20.25 # <[Saint]> ;) 21.20.35 # <[Saint]> *changes, bah. 21.20.43 # hm, on target none of the lists work 21.20.53 # Which is a bit annoying :) 21.21.07 # <[Saint]> I suspect so. 21.21.07 # Getting back to the theme menu isn't easy this way 21.26.20 Quit y4n (Quit: AMIGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAA) 21.31.40 Join webguest77 [0] (~b27e4460@www.haxx.se) 21.36.16 # * gevaerts claims major weirdness 21.36.46 Join Thra11_ [0] (~thrall@87.112.137.30) 21.36.58 # <[Saint]> gevaerts can have it... 21.37.27 Quit Thra11 (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 21.37.51 # [Saint]: I'm now looking at http://pastie.org/3416273 21.37.58 # No lists (just titles) in the sim. 21.38.19 # Now if I change that V(40,...) to V(0,...), *some* lists appear 21.38.27 # although the titles are now of course messed up 21.41.31 # <[Saint]> isn't that ouf of bounds... 21.42.15 # What? 21.42.18 # <[Saint]> displaying a 190 wide vp, in a 190 wide UI viewport, at 40, 15 is oob 21.42.52 Quit webguest77 (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 21.43.18 # hm 21.43.18 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@24.229.141.85.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) 21.43.43 # * [Saint] is sorry he didn't catch that earlier. 21.43.44 # Maybe, but %Vi is used to figure out where to draw the actual list items 21.44.22 # I have to put the non-list stuff *somewhere* 21.44.36 # <[Saint]> right...the UI viewport. 21.44.45 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 21.45.07 # It doesn't make any difference though 21.45.52 # <[Saint]> if you move the %V(noidentifier... viewports above the %Vi(foo... it should draw them in the default (fullscreen) viewport. 21.46.23 # Of course the problem isn't the %V()s :) 21.46.48 # Those are always drawn correctly, and removing them entirely doesn't make the list items work 21.48.11 Quit kadoban (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 21.48.48 # <[Saint]> Hmmm...I thought viewports called after the UI viewport was declared were drawn inside the UI viewport. 21.50.08 # <[Saint]> there was *some* reason I always leave UI viewport declarations for the very last line...but, they may be a lagacy issue now. 21.50.25 # <[Saint]> *legacy too 21.52.43 # gevaerts: could those problems have been avoided by unit tests? 21.54.34 Quit jdgord (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.58.47 # <[Saint]> that code *should* work... 21.58.58 # bluebrother: given proper unit tests, sure 21.59.48 # <[Saint]> I _think_ the UI viewport call needing to be at the bottom of the .sbs isn't an issue, but there's something telling me weirdness may ensue if its not. 22.00.23 # Well, possibly, but moving it doesn't change anything 22.00.54 # <[Saint]> I wish I remembered why I thought this...I believe it had something to do with conditional UI viewports. Which you're not using. 22.01.10 # * bluebrother gives up not mentioning that he'd like to see more tests in Rockbox 22.01.37 # <[Saint]> both "d"s fit in the %Lb call...with 10px to spare even...so, its not that. 22.01.40 # <[Saint]> Hmmmm... 22.02.45 Quit lorenzo92 (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 10.0.2/20120216115113]) 22.03.27 # * bluebrother has a go at genlang 22.03.48 # bluebrother: i'm pretty sure most people would like that but retrofitting meaningful unit tests into rb is probably both difficult and not much fun 22.04.35 # bluebrother: more? 22.05.01 # Does that suggest that we have some now? 22.05.02 # AlexP: more than 0 is still more ;-) 22.05.28 # wasn't there a test for buflib supposed be delivered at end of last year's SoC? 22.05.41 # that would have been a start at least ... 22.06.46 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-76-160-35.dynamic.chello.pl) 22.07.46 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 22.07.46 Join bluebrother^ [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 22.08.01 # bluebrother: There is sort of test for buflib. There is tiny test allocation which you can force to free and watch if compaction succeeded 22.08.45 # wodz: well, I was thinking about some test program you compile and run on a PC. 22.09.01 # which could be appended to the build process. Or used before a release comes up. 22.09.25 # AlexP: do you have thoughts on the next release? 22.09.50 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 22.09.53 # the problem is that with the complexity of Rockbox increasing it's simply not possible to manually test everything anymore 22.10.24 # maybe we should base tests on lua 22.10.44 # why lua? 22.10.54 # * gevaerts thinks that we need the general modularisation before we can really be testable 22.11.01 # we have iterpreter for lua in rb 22.11.15 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g226071002.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.11.21 # We don't need the unit tests inside rb 22.11.56 # I would prefer to not have unit tests inside of Rockbox. 22.12.34 # considering the history of separation playback lib modularization seems unlikely in the near future 22.14.00 # the project was very promising but was buried by the lack of support from the dev team IMO 22.15.21 # gevaerts: About when? 22.15.32 # AlexP: yes, that sort of thing :) 22.16.07 # How are we stability wise? I haven't tried in a while 22.16.31 # I think we're in reasonably good shape 22.17.06 # We'll have to evaluate the AMSv2 USB state before releasing I think, but that's really independent of when we actually release 22.17.14 # wodz: communication seemed to be the major problem as pretty much always 22.17.36 # at the end he posted a couple of big patches in fs and vanished 22.17.38 # gevaerts: yeah 22.17.49 # not replying to feedback 22.17.55 # gevaerts: I haven't looked in the recent past tbh, but I will do 22.18.17 # most of the community not being too much interested in SoC is something that wasn't too helpful 22.18.20 # 3.10 was early December, but it had been branched for a full month by then 22.18.31 # So code-wise 3.10 is now nearly four months old 22.19.53 # bluebrother^: that project wasn't very interesting in itself but what it would enable is. Also i personally have nfi about library design 22.19.55 # Yeah, it seems about time 22.20.07 # and as i said, communication 22.20.33 # n1s: yes, communication has been the main problem, not only for that project 22.23.46 # i'm pretty sure we said it last time but if we do gsoc again we really have to get better at it 22.24.48 # n1s: unless things *seriously* change during the next week, I don't see us applying this year 22.25.07 # considering 'brilliant' ideas listed I don't see the potential to apply for gsoc 22.26.24 # ah ok 22.27.24 # There has basically been zero response to my email 22.28.05 # <[Saint]> "GSoC 2012 Idea List: Make....um....stuff? Make...stuff...happen? Ooooohhh Ohhh...and work, too...gotta work" 22.29.49 # honestly rockbox on real targets does everything i want, the improvements i'd like there are bugfixes and batterytime improvement on immature ports 22.29.57 # <[Saint]> relocatable plugins and splitting out playback to a lib are nice ones...but, have proved difficult. 22.31.11 Quit gevaerts (Disconnected by services) 22.31.18 Join gevaerts_ [0] (~fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 22.31.29 # <[Saint]> tbh I'm more interested in relocatable plugins, but...I don't really care if otherprojects benefit from a playback lib, so...bias. 22.31.59 Nick gevaerts_ is now known as gevaerts (~fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 22.32.08 # [Saint]: playback to lib was half way done, and noone really worked on relocatable plugins 22.32.26 # <[Saint]> gevaerts did, pre-bufflib. 22.32.44 # He meant someone competent :P 22.32.44 # [Saint]: my approach was a dead end 22.32.48 # <[Saint]> "pebbles" (little .rock, get it ;)) 22.33.14 # <[Saint]> Oooooohhhhh, burn! :) 22.33.26 # * gevaerts agrees with AlexP 22.33.29 # gevaerts: was the conclusion that we need a proper relocatable format and a cleverer loader or did i dream that? 22.33.35 # n1s: yes 22.33.41 # <[Saint]> lol 22.34.26 # so it *should* not be too hard to do :) 22.35.31 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 22.36.30 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 22.43.05 Join lovasoa [0] (~olojkine@2a01:e35:8a2e:8080:e2b9:a5ff:fe5b:ca7b) 22.49.16 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 22.51.57 Join perrikwp [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 22.54.00 Join jlbiasini [0] (~metaphys@d86-32-96-55.cust.tele2.at) 22.54.18 Part jlbiasini 22.54.52 Join saratoga [0] (980329b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.41.180) 22.56.21 # i'm kind of hoping someone wants to work on the wma stuff for GSOC, adding WMA Lossless and finishing WMA Voice would be a nice, self contained project 23.01.17 Quit z180 (Quit: Page closed) 23.07.41 Quit Fuze_v2_webguest (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 23.13.12 Join webguest78 [0] (~b27e4460@www.haxx.se) 23.13.55 Quit webguest78 (Client Quit) 23.25.26 Join Topy [0] (~Topy44@g228230027.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.27.54 Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.29.47 Quit Topy44 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 23.36.54 Join Scromple [0] (~Simon@119.225.209.134) 23.39.52 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.44.04 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 11.0/20120215222917])