--- Log for 21.02.112 Server: hitchcock.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 33 minutes and 56 seconds ago 00.02.52 Join Rower85 [0] (husvagn@v-413-alfarv-90.bitnet.nu) 00.03.34 Quit Rower85 (Client Quit) 00.14.51 Quit The_prospector (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.14.53 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 00.15.06 Join The_prospector [0] (baconmaste@unaffiliated/cornman) 00.15.29 Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.15.58 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@87.113.232.98) 00.16.04 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 00.28.17 Join factor [0] (~factor@r74-195-184-248.msk1cmtc01.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 00.31.31 # gevaerts: for reliable transitions (on touchscreen only though) you can do the alernating sublines as normal but in the last one set a skin var to some value and make the whole line conditional on the var being a different value 00.32.02 # %?vg(foo)<|a;b;c;d;e;f;g;h;i;%vs(foo,2)> 00.34.46 # * gevaerts nods 00.35.00 # vs/vg is only on touchscreen currently 00.35.16 # I'm pretty sure the rest of the approach in that sbs isn't very touchscreen-friendly though 00.35.33 # i havnt looked yet.. just reading last nights log 00.35.49 # well, it doesn't actually show a list at all :) 00.36.26 # It also tends to gets confused if you go back to a menu screen from e.g. the wps. Not sure what's to blame there yet, possibly a too simple %?cs<> 00.36.39 Join Zarggg_ [0] (~zarggg@24.229.141.85.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) 00.36.50 Quit Zarggg_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.38.09 # confused how? 00.38.51 # hehe and what if your item has more than 22 letters? :) 00.39.05 # It shows a standard list in a large UI viewport as well as my special stuff 00.39.13 # Oh, don't do that then :) 00.39.24 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.55=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 00.39.48 # I need extra tags to make that lot scroll cleanly 00.39.57 # Not sure which ones, or if it's a good idea at all 00.40.34 # you need LUA :) 00.40.53 # Bah, no. That wouldn't be any fun at all! :) 00.49.41 # JdGordon: by the way, %?if(%LI(-4,nowrap),>=,0)<%xd(icons20,%LI(-4,nowrap),1)> doesn't seem to work. When %LI(-4,nowrap) is -1 (i.e not >= 0), the %xd still applies 00.51.00 # hmm 00.51.48 # Unless of course I'm missing something trivial 00.52.11 # %LI might be broken 00.52.29 # It doesn't look broken to me 00.53.13 # The text variant shows -1, and I don't really see how it can print that and still go wrong in the code 00.53.45 # is %if not converting it to a number? 00.53.57 # I don't know 00.54.11 Quit ender` (Quit: I believe the use of noise to make music will increase until we reach a music produced through the aid of electrical instruments which will make available for musical purposes any and all sounds that can be heard. -- composer John Cage, 1937) 00.59.36 Quit Thra11 (Quit: kthxbai) 01.04.04 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@101.98.129.152) 01.04.04 Quit [Saint] (Changing host) 01.04.04 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 01.05.39 # * [Saint] gives JdGordon a big, fat, juicy, heartfelt, nothing-but-the-finest-man-love kiss on the mouth. 01.06.31 Join mystica555_ [0] (~Mike@mystica.mobi) 01.07.10 # <[Saint]> gevaerts: yes! ;) 01.07.39 # hmmm 01.07.47 # I guess that means cabbie is ready for a commit push? 01.09.16 Join perrikwp [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 01.12.30 # <[Saint]> It means I've got it working...commit push, I'm not so sure about...as I'm not sure how useful it'd be. For the now, it'll need its own wee branch, and I don't want to keep having to bug someone when I make a minor change. 01.12.49 # <[Saint]> THough I'm also not sure it warrants me being added to committers. 01.13.06 # JdGordon: http://paste.debian.net/156985/ "fixes" the %?if() issue. The problem seems to be that it treats -1 as a special case 01.13.32 # I guess I can do the check by seeing if %LT is an empty string 01.14.01 # <[Saint]> I'm just going through now and fixing up the existing ports. 01.14.25 # <[Saint]> (I *completely* re-did metadata handling last night from the ground up) 01.15.22 # <[Saint]> {It'll now consolidate the metadata into a block of text with no spaces whatsoever if there's a missing field} 01.16.08 # gevaerts: that doesnt look terrible, its special casing for volume already anyway 01.16.28 # [Saint]: yuou need to learn to not make major changes together if you ever actually want this in git :) 01.16.58 # <[Saint]> [Oh...and the absolute worst case for metadata display is now "No album art, no tags whatsoever, played from /"] 01.17.26 # <[Saint]> JdGordon: That's why I've split the two off. 01.18.02 # putting the metadata info into the skin code seems a bit broken 01.18.12 # JdGordon: it works with %LT and '', so I'm not sure we should bother 01.18.16 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng208.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 01.18.20 # <[Saint]> We've always done so... 01.18.25 # <[Saint]> How is it broken? 01.19.17 # because what you might want to display isnt necessarily what i want to display :) 01.19.31 # JdGordon: so where will you put it? 01.20.01 # I don't know 01.20.02 # I wouldn't mind a way to handle metadata better for different people, but I don't really see a good and simple solution 01.20.20 # since when is simple an issue when it comes to skinning? :) 01.20.30 # Apart from going all abstract and wavy and not showing metadata at all :) 01.21.24 # <[Saint]> The only new thing I've added (actually, my theme already did this, just not as well) is the theme now takes care of repositioning the data so that there's *something* to display...and in the few rare cases it can fall through, it consolidates the text and moves the next line up one to fill the gap. 01.22.02 # <[Saint]> I'm actually really bloody proud of my "conditionals of horror" for handling this. 01.24.32 # hm, division by zero in the skinned list code 01.25.08 # it probably needs a full rewrite 01.27.00 # maybe, but this one looks easy to fix 01.28.17 # well, really I want to eventually strip out the hard coded lists implementation and just use the skin engine to draw everything 01.28.59 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.29.14 # <[Saint]> JdGordon: gevaerts: http://pastebin.com/57HttfDB <-- finished(?) metadata handling rewrite 01.30.07 # Commit 1a4da59 in rockbox by 03Frank Gevaerts: Make skinned lists handle the "0 items" case without crashing 01.30.36 # JdGordon: sounds good, but maybe it should be a bit more solid before switching over :) 01.31.01 # <[Saint]> thats where you come in, dear gevaerts :) 01.31.19 # <[Saint]> You can also convert my cabbie work to skinned lists...yay! 01.32.20 # 1a4da59 build result: All green 01.32.26 # [Saint]: but my recent sbs work doesn't even *use* lists! 01.33.09 # <[Saint]> It does! 01.33.24 # <[Saint]> ...just in a really weird, hacked up way ;) 01.33.42 # gevaerts: sure 01.39.24 Join LambdaCalculus37 [0] (~rmenes@rockbox/staff/LambdaCalculus37) 01.44.44 # <[Saint]> Shit... 01.44.58 # <[Saint]> Nope! Not gonna mention it :) 01.45.09 # <[Saint]> "It works fine, yes...fine" :) 01.45.49 # <[Saint]> People /probably/ aren't going to do the weird shit I did to get blocking just now. 01.46.10 # <[Saint]> even then, its not actually "blocking", just a slight delay. I can deal with this. 01.46.32 # <[Saint]> It took months for a user to find the blocking behaviour as it was beforehand. 01.54.56 Quit polemon_ (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 01.59.32 # uh oh.. what did you find? 02.03.03 Quit [Saint] (Quit: Quit) 02.06.33 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 02.44.48 Join [Saint_] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 02.47.13 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 02.55.06 Join Guinness [0] (Slayer@c-68-55-111-159.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 02.58.35 Quit nosa-j (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 02.59.21 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-26-205.clt.bellsouth.net) 03.01.56 # <[Saint_]> JdGordon: "none" firing on a long press when defined as a short press is back... 03.02.46 # * JdGordon sticks fingers in his ear 03.02.48 # no it isnt! 03.04.55 # <[Saint_]> Also, interesting bug: with wps hotkey set to "pictureflow", and the database not initialized, when I fire the hotkey I get the expected "database not ready" splash, but it never goes away until I press the hw "back" button, then I get the expected "plugin returned error"...(here's the interesting part) then a panic with "viewport manager overflow". 03.06.58 # <[Saint_]> Sorry: "*PANIC* Stack underflow....viewportmanager" 03.07.16 # <[Saint_]> Reproducible. 03.07.19 Quit mystica555_ (Read error: Operation timed out) 03.07.37 # ok 03.08.51 # <[Saint_]> Reproduction: " use my theme, don't unit database, have wps hotkey set as "pictureflow", try launch hotkey in wps (fails as expected), press "back" twice, panic" 03.09.11 # <[Saint_]> That's there more for me...so I can make a propose report later. 03.09.28 # <[Saint_]> *proper too 03.11.41 Quit qnm (Read error: Operation timed out) 03.12.38 Quit MethoS- (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 03.12.53 Join qnm [0] (~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a) 03.29.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 04.12.12 Quit [7] (Disconnected by services) 04.12.23 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.12.35 Join Rob2223 [0] (~Miranda@p4FFD281D.dip.t-dialin.net) 04.15.33 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 04.21.27 Quit LambdaCalculus37 (Quit: Fwump) 04.26.46 Join soulpro [0] (~soulpro@98.156.96.104) 04.27.16 Quit [Saint_] (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 04.28.01 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 04.30.03 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.30.03 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.30.25 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.31.02 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.31.04 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.31.06 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 05.09.01 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 05.14.28 Join Rower85 [0] (husvagn@v-413-alfarv-90.bitnet.nu) 05.21.55 Quit knittl (Read error: Operation timed out) 05.21.59 Join knittl [0] (~knittl@unaffiliated/knittl) 05.25.23 Quit nosa-j (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05.27.23 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-26-205.clt.bellsouth.net) 05.29.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.34.50 Quit anewuser (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.47.48 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FFD3168.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.51.40 Quit Rob2223 (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 05.59.51 # * [Saint] *will* be adding a pop-up for repeat model. 05.59.57 # <[Saint]> *mode, too. 06.00.37 # do it after commiting 06.28.28 Quit [Saint] (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.29.11 Quit curtism (Quit: Live Long and Prosper) 06.29.54 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 06.35.13 Quit nosa-j (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.37.01 Join pezmanlou_ [0] (~louis@35.9.22.243) 06.38.24 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-26-205.clt.bellsouth.net) 07.09.54 Join nosa [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-26-205.clt.bellsouth.net) 07.10.04 Quit nosa-j (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 07.10.05 Nick nosa is now known as nosa-j (~m00k@adsl-74-235-26-205.clt.bellsouth.net) 07.12.17 Quit pezmanlou_ (Quit: Ex-Chat) 07.26.51 Join [Saint_] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 07.29.02 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.30.16 # whois gevaerts 07.30.28 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 07.30.29 # ups 07.31.14 # gevaerts: I need an .mi4 file for my friend's e280. 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Could you give it a final look? 08.50.25 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.07.09 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@46.35.227.87.static.tab.siw.siwnet.net) 09.07.09 Quit Zagor (Changing host) 09.07.10 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 09.12.52 # so.... how do we feel about the menu customisation patch on gerrit? 09.15.53 # i've seen no discussion, and its done apart from the manual entry 09.18.14 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09.20.22 # imo manual is blocking part for now 09.20.27 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 09.21.19 # JdGordon: I also made (minor) comments to the code itself 09.21.57 # wodz: wanna do the manual entry? :) 09.25.28 # try to guess :-) 09.26.44 # * bluebrother considers looking into some sapi_voice.dll thing 09.27.05 # since MinGW doesn't have support for the MS speech API 09.27.55 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 09.29.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.37.36 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 09.39.55 # wow. If this change really fixes it then the multithreading patch broke SAPI really badly. 09.44.22 # ukleinek: have you looked at http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaE200Unbrick ? 09.46.33 # gevaerts: yeah, that's what I'm reading 09.46.56 # Right, so download the files you need from the page linked from there 09.47.17 # I use the e200 ones even though this is an e280 I assume? 09.48.47 # * ukleinek chooses "SanDisk Sansa e200 (European)" 09.52.57 # which section of the manual shold i put the main menu customisation stuff in? 09.54.11 # what on earth is the paragraph about settings not saving until shutdown doing in "introducing the main menu"? 09.54.36 # pixelma: ? 09.54.44 # why is that mentioned at all? it makes no sense 09.54.58 # it even gives th eimpression that setting changes dont happen untill a reboot 10.04.33 Join hiptobecubic [0] (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) 10.15.50 Quit soulpro () 10.21.56 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~LemonBoy@ppp-91-57.26-151.libero.it) 10.22.40 Join mc2739_ [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 10.22.52 Quit mc2739 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10.35.14 # who do i bug about the manual? 10.37.41 # the english in 5.7 settings is pretty bad also (no offence intended to whoever wrotree it) 10.40.02 # JdGordon: I can help a bit with the latex side, but I'm not too familiar with the reasoning behind various ordering and content decisions 10.58.12 # * JdGordon wants to nuke this paragraph :/ 11.10.06 # Commit 72c41a3 in rockbox by 03Michael Sevakis: crosfade_mix_fade should be returning size_t, not int. 11.13.25 # 72c41a3 build result: All green 11.28.57 # * ukleinek followed "Restoring the original firmware" on http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/SansaE200Unbrick now 11.29.08 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.29.17 # the last message is: "Writing main image" since a few minutes now 11.31.50 # gevaerts: should the DAP autoreset when done? 11.38.51 Quit perrikwp (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11.40.05 Join perrikwp [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 11.45.36 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng434.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 11.47.32 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 11.52.55 # gevaerts: ping 11.56.38 # JdGordon: pong 11.57.05 # ukleinek: I don't know. It shouldn't be stuck though. If that fails, try reseating the flash 11.58.49 # gevaerts: wanna bug me about skin lists? 11.59.07 # Always! 11.59.21 # gevaerts: I pressed the power button now, and after power on I'm back in that readonly state. 12.01.11 # wodz: i'll try and have a look this afternoon 12.01.13 # oh he's gone 12.01.46 # * ukleinek tries formatting now. 12.04.50 # JdGordon: the sbs in http://rockbox.hostname.be/medieval-new.zip shows skinned lists in *some* screens, but not the main menu (where it shows no list at all). If you go to the wps and back, it shows the built-in (i.e. non-skinned) list, until you go to e.g. the file menu and back 12.05.23 Join factor [0] (~factor@r74-195-184-248.msk1cmtc01.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 12.07.49 # I get the same behaviour of suddenly showing the built-in after trying to go to the WPS (there wasn't anything playing, so it gives "nothing to resume" and goes back) list in http://rockbox.hostname.be/s.zip 12.09.18 # gevaerts: formatting didn't help either 12.10.08 # * gevaerts points out that his last suggestion was quite different from "try writing to it over USB again" 12.12.39 # gevaerts: ah, I read "resetting" and assumed that to mean "format" 12.13.02 # * gevaerts tends to write "format" when he means "format' 12.13.29 # ok 12.26.47 # gevaerts: what target? 12.32.50 # that font is horrible! 12.33.00 Join mortalis [0] (~mortalis@77.108.98.176) 12.35.07 # JdGordon: gigabeat F 12.35.37 # And yes, that font was picked for stylistic consistency, not for readability :) 12.36.45 # and yeah, you broke it! 12.37.47 # yuck @ the %?cs line! 12.48.44 # ukleinek: he didn't write "resetting" either, he wrote "reseating" - which is different. 12.48.57 Join anewuser [0] (~anewuser@190.207.138.187) 12.48.57 Quit anewuser (Changing host) 12.48.57 Join anewuser [0] (~anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 12.49.55 # GodEater_: yeah, I noticed 12.50.25 # GodEater_: but as "resetting flash" didn't make sense to me, I formatted it. 12.53.34 # oh dear 12.59.01 # GodEater_: what does "resetting flash" mean other than that? 12.59.53 # gevaerts: I'm not a hardware guy, so I first have to find someone to reseat the flash for me. 13.00.39 # ukleinek: if you don't think you know what something means, it's usually best to ask first, rather than trying something which may or may not be the right thing. 13.01.05 # and as I understand it, reseating the flash in an e200 means taking the battery out, and poking something with your finger - it's not rocket science. 13.01.29 # although caveat that with, "I don't own an e200" so I could be remembering it wrong. 13.02.22 # ah ok 13.03.25 # It's either documented in the wiki somewhere, or at the very least in the forums. 13.03.27 # have a hunt 13.11.46 # * Zagor spots an updated japanese.lang: http://ae864agelu.blogspot.com/2012/01/rockbox-japaneselang.html 13.14.51 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.6) 13.14.53 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 13.18.39 # nice of them to send it to us! 13.29.11 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.33.36 # I think we have a great unused potential in asian contributors. I see a lot of asian activity on twitter. perhaps language is a barrier. 13.40.43 Join webguest53 [0] (~5dde2aae@www.haxx.se) 13.41.33 Join crimp [0] (~5dde2aae@www.haxx.se) 13.42.30 Quit kadoban (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 13.42.31 Quit GodEater_ (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 13.45.40 Quit webguest53 (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 13.46.32 Quit crimp (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 13.48.35 Quit hiptobecubic (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 13.49.41 Join hiptobecubic [0] (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) 13.51.51 Join crimp [0] (~5dde2aae@www.haxx.se) 13.51.56 # hi 13.52.02 # i have a qick questions 13.52.06 # -s 13.52.30 # i want to upgrade my ipod classic video with a ssd drive 13.53.14 # is it possible to format the ssd with fat32 oder ntfs and then install rockbox on it, without the whole apple system 13.56.19 # the sansa clip zip manual is missing screenshots 13.58.04 # crimp, yeah. 13.58.26 # crimp, i put a cf card in my ipod 4G (pre-color) 13.58.40 # so its possible? 13.59.05 # crimp, if i recall, you do need the apple firmware on it? but check the website 13.59.28 # I don't have itunes or anything though. I just copy music directly 13.59.35 # you'll need to do a manual restore (easiest way is through itnues) but yes, it works 14.00.27 # I have some ogg files that rockbox refuses to play. They play fine in every software player i have, there is no album art in the tags, i don't know what it could be 14.00.39 # i tried a random ogg file from the net and it worked fine. Just my album isn't working 14.00.44 # so i absolutly need the itunes restore on my fresh ssd? or is it optional. the ipod just need to boot to rockbox 14.02.07 # it can be done without itunes, see the wiki for instructions for a manual restore 14.02.14 # linked somewhere from IpodPort 14.03.32 # thx i will have a look *happy* 14.03.40 # bye 14.03.48 Quit crimp (Quit: CGI:IRC) 14.04.16 # Ok so according to /bin/file, the files that won't play are of type "Wontplay_inrockbox.oga: Ogg data, Skeleton v4.0" 14.04.29 # hmm, I'm getting a segfault on all sdl builds I try 14.04.46 # whereas the working ogg looks like "Willplay_inrockbox.ogg: Ogg data, Vorbis audio, stereo, 44100 Hz, ~96000 bps" 14.05.39 # ogginfo says that the file that won't play has two streams. A skeleton stream and a vorbis stream, wheras the working file only has a vorbis stream 14.10.32 # ugh. I have to head out. If anyone has any ideas on this, please leave me a memo. 14.10.36 # /msg memoserv send hiptobecubic 14.18.28 Quit hiptobecubic (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 14.20.46 # I pressed and wobbled now on the chip that I think is the flash. Still without success. 14.22.17 # JdGordon: I think I got (at least part of) it 14.24.12 # parse_listitemviewport() in skin_parser.c stores a pointer to the label in the listitem_viewport_cfg. However, the label is buflib-allocated, so this pointer isn't stable and when the render code later on tries to compare that label to the one it wants, it won't match, so nothing is rendered 14.27.18 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~LemonBoy@ppp-91-57.26-151.libero.it) 14.28.52 # makes sense 14.29.04 # yeah, you know how i said i'd look at it tonight? well i havnt :p 14.32.32 # I'll push a patch to gerrit 14.37.08 # JdGordon: http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#/c/112/ 14.37.16 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 14.38.08 # That does seem to fix the "nothing is shown" cases, at least in the sim. The other issue of the regular list suddenly being drawn after going to some other (non-list?) screens is still there 14.44.51 # I'll try to look tomorrow, bed time! 14.51.12 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 14.53.51 # JdGordon: the other issue is related to things calling skinlist_set_cfg(NULL) and then cfg not being reset properly later on 14.54.58 # commenting all of those out "fixes" the issue (but causes some other effects I guess...) 14.55.19 Join GodEater_ [0] (93722cc9@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 15.02.57 # JdGordon: when you wake up, also look at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/113 15.10.41 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 15.10.58 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 15.12.23 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@31.185.186.227) 15.21.29 Join jlbiasini [0] (~metaphys@d86-32-96-55.cust.tele2.at) 15.24.38 Join WalkGood [0] (~4@unaffiliated/walkgood) 15.29.13 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.45.03 # Commit 7da275c in www by 03Björn Stenberg: (Author: Dominik Riebeling) Make genlang server script work with git. 16.04.17 # bluebrother: committed. please test and report back. 16.18.25 Quit hillshum (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 16.23.57 Join nosa [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-26-165.clt.bellsouth.net) 16.24.19 Quit nosa-j (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16.24.19 Nick nosa is now known as nosa-j (~m00k@adsl-74-235-26-165.clt.bellsouth.net) 16.25.50 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.6) 16.26.27 Nick kugelp is now known as kugel (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 16.26.59 Part jlbiasini 16.29.34 Join clipplus [0] (~4e498cad@www.haxx.se) 16.30.02 Quit clipplus (Client Quit) 16.30.04 Join sansaclipplus [0] (~4e498cad@www.haxx.se) 16.33.47 # hi, i tried to put a sd card in my clip+ and now the original firmware wont boot, gets stuck att the sansa logo. rockbox still works, both with and without the sdcard. its a bit annoying since i cant transfer music to it . anybody know aboout this? it was something wrong with the sdcard, it doesnt work now either. in computer or rockbox. 16.35.27 # i have tried the basic stuff like holding down all the variuos buttons 16.46.04 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 16.48.57 Join idak [0] (~3b9c9e01@www.haxx.se) 16.53.26 Quit sansaclipplus (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 16.54.28 Quit idak (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 16.56.02 Join idak [0] (~3b9c9e01@www.haxx.se) 16.57.31 Join idak1 [0] (~aidehara@PPPpm251.aichi-ip.dti.ne.jp) 16.57.39 Join MrFrost [0] (~b27e565c@www.haxx.se) 17.03.10 # > Zagor: Before 3.10 release, one japanese (not me) posted japanese.lang (FS#12375) to answer "call for translators", but no rockbox developer have commited this patch, and I have been disappointed all rockbox developers. 17.03.11 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12375 3Japanese Transrations (Re: Call for translators) (patches, unconfirmed) 17.03.20 Part idak1 17.03.40 Quit idak (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 17.09.55 Join y4n [0] (y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 17.10.29 # Japanese drive by trolling? 17.13.24 # idak: thank you for the heads-up, I hadn't seen that. yes, sometimes patches gets missed and it's always unfortunate. I would like to encourage patch authors to remind us if that happens. we never ignore bugs on purpose. 17.13.57 Join jlbiasini [0] (~metaphys@d86-32-96-55.cust.tele2.at) 17.14.02 Join hiptobecubic [0] (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) 17.14.14 # Lalufu: obviously he is reading the log 17.24.26 Join hillshum [0] (~hillshum@208.88.9.222) 17.29.16 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.31.29 # Some of my ogg files won't play in rockbox, despite working everywhere else i've tried. According to /bin/file, the files that won't play are of type "Wontplay_inrockbox.oga: Ogg data, Skeleton v4.0", whereas the working ogg looks like "Willplay_inrockbox.ogg: Ogg data, Vorbis audio, stereo, 44100 Hz, ~96000 bps". ogginfo says that the file that won't play has two streams. A skeleton stream and a vorbis stream, whereas the working file on 17.31.29 # ly has a vorbis stream. Is there anything i can do about this? 17.32.26 Join incoganon [0] (~quassel@2001:700:300:1470:5e26:aff:fe17:2ae7) 17.33.56 # Hey. I have a trusty old Sansa Clip+, where I suspect the flash memory has gone bonkers (both Rockbox and the Sandisk software hang randomly, and Linux gives me some scary-looking errors when trying to fsck the mass storage device). Does anybody know of any success stories replacing the flash, or should I just get a new one? 17.41.34 Quit Rower85 (Quit: Hmmm...) 17.45.45 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@LAubervilliers-153-51-14-105.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr) 17.45.45 Quit pamaury (Changing host) 17.45.45 Join pamaury [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/pamaury) 17.46.39 Nick kugel is now known as kugelp (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 17.47.28 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 17.50.16 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@pD9E41B97.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.52.34 Quit merbanan (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 17.53.06 # why only 8 themes are showing up for the yp-r0? 17.54.57 Part Zagor 17.55.42 Nick kugelp is now known as kugel (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 17.56.19 # JdGordon: I have no idea, I'd check the paragraph's or file's history 18.00.22 # MrFrost: probably because there are only 8 themes for it 18.01.34 # GodEater_: AFAIK the target shares screen resolution with the Gigabeats and the Fuze+ (?) and those have more themes 18.01.56 # does it? It looks like a slightly weird size to me 18.01.59 # yep 18.02.04 # not quite the same aspect ratio? 18.02.33 Quit soap (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 18.02.33 Quit Slasheri (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 18.02.39 Join Slasheri [0] (miipekk@rockbox/developer/Slasheri) 18.02.57 Quit The_prospector (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 18.03.20 Join soap_ [0] (~soap@cpe-76-181-78-156.columbus.res.rr.com) 18.03.20 Quit soap_ (Changing host) 18.03.20 Join soap_ [0] (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 18.03.21 # 240x320 18.03.22 Quit jordan` (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 18.03.48 # not weird at all 18.04.26 Join The_prospector [0] (baconmaste@unaffiliated/cornman) 18.04.36 # gigabeat and fuze+ themes suit for r0 18.04.40 Quit MrFrost (Quit: CGI:IRC) 18.04.46 Join MrFrost [0] (~b27edbdc@www.haxx.se) 18.04.50 # gigabeat and fuze+ themes suit for r0 18.05.00 # I even uploaded a theme for r0 18.05.16 # but it doesn't show in it's themes section 18.05.29 Quit incoganon (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 18.05.29 Quit TBCOOL (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 18.05.38 # only in gigabeat f/x s and fuze+ O_o 18.05.40 Quit gevaerts (Disconnected by services) 18.05.48 Join gevaerts_ [0] (~fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 18.05.52 Quit guymann (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 18.05.57 Join TBCOOL [0] (~tb@c-313071d5.09-42-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 18.06.04 Nick gevaerts_ is now known as gevaerts (~fg@rockbox/developer/gevaerts) 18.06.30 Join guymann [0] (~charles@69.0.9.213) 18.06.42 Join incoganon [0] (~quassel@2001:700:300:1470:5e26:aff:fe17:2ae7) 18.07.07 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 18.08.10 # Commit d5bd4ec in rockbox by 03Amaury Pouly: (Author: Jean-Louis Biasini) Fuze+: fractals's plugin keymaps reworks 18.10.42 Quit MrFrost (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 18.10.59 Join jordan` [0] (~gromit@2001:660:3302:2826:225:90ff:fe20:d9a8) 18.11.00 # d5bd4ec build result: All green 18.11.19 Join MrFrost [0] (~252d5289@www.haxx.se) 18.11.30 Quit petur (Quit: here today, gone tomorrow) 18.13.32 Quit nosa-j (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 18.13.47 Quit incoganon (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 18.14.28 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-79-151.clt.bellsouth.net) 18.15.27 Quit jordan` (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 18.15.43 Join incoganon [0] (~quassel@2001:700:300:1470:5e26:aff:fe17:2ae7) 18.21.12 Join jordan` [0] (~gromit@2001:660:3302:2826:225:90ff:fe20:d9a8) 18.21.54 Quit anewuser (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.26.10 Join kadoban [0] (~kadoban@ip98-165-177-158.ph.ph.cox.net) 18.26.42 Quit jordan` (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 18.27.11 Join jordan` [0] (~gromit@2001:660:3302:2826:225:90ff:fe20:d9a8) 18.27.37 Quit hillshum (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.28.39 Join hillshum [0] (~hillshum@208.88.9.222) 18.37.13 Quit GodEater_ (Quit: Page closed) 18.38.03 Join anincog [0] (~quassel@2001:700:300:1470:5e26:aff:fe17:2ae7) 18.38.22 Quit incoganon (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 18.40.42 Quit pamaury (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 18.41.44 Nick kugel is now known as kugelp (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 18.41.58 Nick kugelp is now known as kugel (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 18.42.07 Quit anincog (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 18.42.13 Join incoganon [0] (~quassel@2001:700:300:1470:5e26:aff:fe17:2ae7) 18.42.46 Join merbanan [0] (~benjamin@m77-218-241-70.cust.tele2.se) 18.48.31 Join dan_a [0] (dan_a@217.23.173.156) 18.53.34 Quit zenlunatic (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18.53.54 Quit merbanan (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 18.58.48 #  18.59.54 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 19.00.35 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 19.00.36 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 19.00.36 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 19.04.23 # saratoga, I think you noticed that the sansa clip+/clip zip OF uses 96 kHz sample rate for 96 kHz files, right? 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Thanks! 20.26.54 # I'll have a look at g110 tonight 20.31.59 Join saratoga [0] (980329b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.41.180) 20.32.09 # bertrik: I didn't test with RMAA, just pure tones to verify it wasn't being resampled 20.32.44 # however given that the AMS chips use a directly coupled, oversampling DAC, I would be surprised if the frequency response is much different at higher frequencies 20.37.19 # I think so too 20.43.14 # what brought up the question? 20.45.11 # I was wondering if I could use rockbox to play back audio files with ultrasonic content, like bat calls 20.46.36 # ah yes, forgot about that project 20.46.45 # i think you can, we have 96k support in the driver 20.46.55 # although i don't know if anyone ever tested it to see if it works 20.47.04 # bat social calls are mostly ultrasonic but still relatively low-frequency compared to their navigational calls, so 96k could be enough for those 20.47.56 # yeah, it's a bit weird that we have driver that can manage many more frequencies, but rockbox as a whole only supports 44k (AFAIK) 20.48.30 # you can do other samplerates in plugins 20.48.54 # it's the playback system that is fixed at 44kHz IIUC 20.48.57 # doom and midi use lower ones IIRC 20.49.05 # and part of dsp also probably 20.49.09 # saratoga: yes 20.49.12 # you can probably go higher then 96k too 20.49.16 Quit sinthetek (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 20.49.20 # not sure if anything uses higher 20.49.30 Join hillshum [0] (~hillshum@174-27-205-248.slkc.qwest.net) 20.49.34 # the as3525 datasheet only claims 48k, but that didn't stop them from clocking it to 96k 20.49.44 # yes, I guess so, there is nothing preventing us to use a different divider 20.49.50 # i bet if you reduce the oversampling 2x it'll still operate at 192k 20.50.12 # although you might run into the transistion band of the filter somewhere up there 20.50.17 # oh, I thought it always oversampled at 128x 20.53.54 Quit hillshum (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 20.58.05 # Oversampling rate (needed for generating sclk and lrck) 20.58.11 # although, 128x is the lowest setting 20.58.37 # do you have an oscilliscope or high speed A/D? 20.59.18 # Commit bf4edb3 in rockbox by 03Bertrik Sikken: (Author: Nathan Korth) Fixed clock bitmaps for Sansa Clip Zip (96x96x16) 20.59.46 # I do have a high-ish speed A/D 21.01.42 # bf4edb3 build result: 0 errors, 2 warnings (Nathan Korth committed) 21.01.45 Quit Topy (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 21.02.25 # CIA thinks the author comitted 21.03.53 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@f049008205.adsl.alicedsl.de) 21.11.13 Quit y4n (Quit: AMIGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAA) 21.13.25 Join advcomp2019_ [0] (~advcomp20@unaffiliated/advcomp2019) 21.15.25 Quit saratoga (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 21.16.20 Quit advcomp2019 (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 21.23.26 Join sinthetek [0] (~sinthetek@unaffiliated/sinthetek) 21.29.23 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.36.30 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 21.38.57 Join MrFrost [0] (~252d5289@www.haxx.se) 21.41.16 Join Xerion [0] (~xerion@5419EF19.cm-5-2d.dynamic.ziggo.nl) 21.44.09 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 21.44.19 Quit stripwax (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.47.16 Join stripwax [0] (~Miranda@87-194-34-169.bethere.co.uk) 21.47.18 # bluebrother: I've updated my manual patches and uploaded them to git... could you comment/commit them please? 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It retrieves the time after about 5 minutes. it would be cool knowing how does it do... 22.34.21 # lots of places just have a time signal broadcast on a particular radio frequency that clocks can pick up 22.34.31 # not RDS 22.35.42 # ah! now it's clear, tought it was through rds too ... 22.36.10 # of course this frequency is out from FM range, indeed? 22.36.13 # no, it predates rds by decades :) 22.36.16 # i have no idea waht frequency it is 22.37.46 # lorenzo92: dcf77? 22.38.21 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.55=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 22.38.52 # gevaerts: eh cool! always something to learn :) 23.00.28 Part jlbiasini 23.08.38 # * gevaerts wants geometric transform tags 23.09.21 Quit lorenzo92 (Remote host closed the connection) 23.13.15 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 23.22.48 Quit ender` (Quit: Revised log levels proposal: "fyi," "wtf," and "omg.") 23.25.33 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@g228225205.adsl.alicedsl.de) 23.26.02 Join Scromple [0] (~Simon@119.225.209.134) 23.29.28 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.29.57 Quit Topy44 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 23.30.52 Quit Thra11 (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 23.31.15 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@31.185.63.60) 23.47.27 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.50.44 Quit remlap (Max SendQ exceeded) 23.51.08 Quit aarch (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 23.52.52 Join aarch [0] (~z@ip-115.viapori.fi) 23.53.16 Join remlap [0] (~Patrick@190.28.169.217.in-addr.arpa)