--- Log for 24.02.112 Server: hitchcock.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 3 days and 0 hours ago 00.04.59 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 11.0/20120215222917]) 00.05.23 Part jlbiasini 00.19.11 # should something like %or(%if(%mp,=,4), %if(%mp,=,5)) be working, or can't i use %if() inside %or()? 00.19.20 Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.26.44 # oh wow, it does! :) needs %?or instead of %or 00.28.45 Quit ender` (Quit: I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had an underlying truth. -- Umberto Eco) 00.29.43 # [Saint], remember my ultra-bloat from earlier? i got it down to this :D - http://pastebin.com/XaJX2mPp 00.30.22 Nick mcgrof_ is now known as mcgrof (mcgrof@casper.infradead.org) 00.47.07 # <[Saint]> dfkt: that's a fine job. 00.47.28 # <[Saint]> But man, man oh man do I hate that line-break/indenting style ;) 00.47.49 # heh, it's neat and tidy here, pastebin messed it up :) 00.48.10 # <[Saint]> No, its "neat" here too. 00.48.20 # <[Saint]> I just hate it with a passion ;) 00.48.23 # why? 00.48.49 # <[Saint]> It totally breaks my concentration when reading a set of nested tags/conditions. 00.48.58 # * [Saint] is an *oldschool* themer ;) 00.49.11 # i guess you're used to the old style... maybe needs some time ;) 00.49.43 # but yeah, hard to check with line breaks if you missed a | or > or something 00.49.53 # <[Saint]> I just use a script that c/p's and removes indentation and line breaks ;) 00.50.05 # <[Saint]> then I can rwad other peoples nasty code :P 00.50.08 # <[Saint]> *read 00.50.40 # i thought you wanted to make the cabbie code noob-friendly? ;) 00.51.43 # <[Saint]> I do...but, that doesnt mean *I* have to like it. 00.51.47 # <[Saint]> ;) 00.52.10 # heh 00.52.53 # <[Saint]> i look at it and think: "that could be one, neat line.....so much bloat" 00.52.54 # <[Saint]> :P 00.54.28 # <[Saint]> If I did that to some of my conditions, it could end up making 5 LOC into ~100 LOC 00.55.05 # <[Saint]> making it impossible to read, as the entire condition never fits on the screen. 00.55.16 # <[Saint]> 00.57.50 # <[Saint]> I mean....remember the metadata display code I posted the other day for you to look at? 00.58.35 # <[Saint]> indentation and nesting with line breaks would make that a few hundred chars wide, and about ~100 LOC 01.15.31 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.15.36 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 01.16.43 Quit Thra11 (Remote host closed the connection) 01.17.05 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@46.208.228.200) 01.19.04 Join factor [0] (~factor@r74-195-184-248.msk1cmtc01.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 01.30.07 Join CaptainKewl [0] (captainkew@207-237-110-248.c3-0.nyr-ubr2.nyr.ny.cable.rcn.com) 01.30.27 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.50.17 Nick Jack87|Away is now known as Jack87 (Jack87@nasadmin/admin/jack87) 01.50.49 Join dan_a [0] (dan_a@217.23.173.156) 01.55.41 Quit dan_a_ (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 02.02.24 Quit Thra11 (Quit: kthxbai) 02.09.42 # here's the supported codec list from /apps/metadata.h - i intended the ones which i believe do support replaygain - http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=YhBb287K 02.09.52 # is this correct? did i miss some? 02.11.18 # wouldnt it be better if there was a tag which said "does the current codec support replaygain?" 02.11.38 # that would be nice, indeed 02.29.11 Nick Jack87 is now known as Jack87|Away (Jack87@nasadmin/admin/jack87) 02.37.13 # i think we have a list in the manual 02.37.57 # hmm no it only lists the tags that support replaygain 02.38.06 # so it doesn't cover some of the weirder formats 02.38.28 # is there something in the codec which will tell us which do and dont at runtime? 02.38.58 # i doubt it 02.40.45 # the codec files themselves handle replaygain, not the core 02.40.46 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng105.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 02.41.15 # if the tags handle replaygain, the codec doesn't actually matter? 02.41.19 # http://pastebin.com/hm1zxz8C 02.41.48 # hmm although i bet some of those fields might be blank 02.42.38 # what does codec_set_replaygain() do? 02.42.54 # looking now 02.43.06 # ci->configure(DSP_SET_TRACK_GAIN, id3->track_gain); 02.44.43 # is that something we can check later? 02.44.57 # i guess you can check if the field is non-zero 02.45.12 # actually, thats probably what the existing replaygain tag does? 02.46.02 # yeah it'll just tell you if the info exists, not if its possible for it to exist 02.46.44 # hmm no i'm wrong, the metadata parsers do handle the actual replaygain parsing, but the codecs initialize the info when they start 03.08.55 Quit mc2739 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 03.09.12 Join mc2739 [0] (~mc2739@rockbox/developer/mc2739) 03.14.49 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.55=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 03.30.31 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.42.50 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.00.19 Join factor [0] (~factor@r74-195-184-248.msk1cmtc01.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 04.07.01 Quit [7] (Disconnected by services) 04.07.13 Join TheSeven [0] (~TheSeven@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.25.31 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.25.31 Join amiconn_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.25.53 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.27.46 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.27.47 Join pixelma_ [0] (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.27.49 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (quassel@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.36.55 Quit MethoS- (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 04.50.32 Quit Guinness (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.55.38 Join Guinness [0] (~Slayer@c-68-55-111-159.hsd1.va.comcast.net) 04.56.16 Join Rower85 [0] (husvagn@v-413-alfarv-90.bitnet.nu) 05.03.54 Quit zenlunatic (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 05.09.42 # * [Saint] grumbles about the Playlist Catalogue config.cfg entry 05.10.07 # <[Saint]> Its catalogue, not catalog! ;) 05.11.56 # bleh 05.17.11 # saratoga: the patch looks great 05.19.17 # can anyone with non-16bit LCD targets please test http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,33453.0.html 05.30.32 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.35.17 Quit ps-auxw (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 05.38.56 Join ps-auxw [0] (~arneb@p4FF7F3E1.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.41.12 Quit Zarggg (Quit: Rebooting client...) 05.44.29 Join Rob2223 [0] (~Miranda@p4FFD115E.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.46.34 Join Zarggg [0] (~zarggg@24.229.141.85.res-cmts.sm.ptd.net) 05.48.03 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 05.49.00 # <[Saint]> rasher: the RaaA builds appear to be dead again. 05.49.40 # <[Saint]> Looks like it hasn't completed/uploaded a build since you poked it last time. 05.50.24 Quit curtism (Quit: Live Long and Prosper) 06.45.52 Quit CaptainKewl (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 06.47.38 # Is two weeks enough time to come back and ask someone if I can get an update on something? I'z IZ a patient man. But, I'm lacking patience right now, and the st#ner in me, wants to create. 06.48.36 # depends who you are asking 06.50.00 # Darn. I've forgotten how to do those thought things. JD! You just might well know that right man for me to talk to. I have to ask him about this: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12586 06.53.58 Join perrikwp [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 06.57.38 # * [Saint] frowns at that. 06.58.01 # <[Saint]> Were I able to, I'd have closed that out as "Not a Bug" ages ago. 06.58.17 # <[Saint]> You want a whole new tag...not a kludge on %ss 06.59.11 # not necessarily 06.59.30 # and the only difference between bugs and feauters are when they are found 06.59.45 # <[Saint]> %substring ;) 07.00.13 # <[Saint]> I just don't think the tracker is the right place for this. 07.00.14 # any why is asking for that to dump a number unreasonable? 07.00.46 # <[Saint]> Its not, necessarily. But the fact it doesn't isn't a bug. 07.11.56 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-175-223.student.uu.se) 07.11.56 Quit n1s (Changing host) 07.11.56 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 07.19.53 Join hiptobecubic [0] (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) 07.27.33 # I don't mind posting in the Forum. Under Features? I'd just like it done. How much work would that involve? 07.29.12 Quit n1s (Read error: Connection timed out) 07.30.34 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.35.08 Quit SynrG (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 07.39.47 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@168.16.227.146) 07.46.48 Join leavittx [0] (~leavittx@89.221.199.187) 07.48.40 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 07.57.52 Join GodEater_ [0] (93722cc9@rockbox/staff/GodEater) 08.01.18 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 08.14.16 Quit leavittx (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 08.17.49 Quit Scromple (Quit: Leaving) 08.27.18 Join MrFrost [0] (~b27e685a@www.haxx.se) 08.36.32 Join ender` [0] (~ender@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.52.53 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-76-160-35.dynamic.chello.pl) 08.53.51 # JdGordon: I tested lcd patch on hd300 and judging from simple tests it works. 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I mean it is selected, reports it is playing but it is not and progressbar in wps does not advance. 09.01.19 Join nick_p [0] (~nick@82-69-105-120.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) 09.07.01 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 09.11.32 # wodz: thanks 09.13.32 # hey guys 09.13.49 # can someone pls look at a radio patch for r0 09.14.12 # it's on flyspray about a week already 09.22.32 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 09.23.49 # MrFrost: could you please upload it to gerrit instead? we have stopped using flyspray for patches. 09.24.06 # I should add a big note... 09.24.32 # gerrit.rockbox.org 09.24.47 # it's not my patch 09.25.15 # lorenzo92 develops rockbox for r0 09.25.37 # aha 09.26.22 # I'm making a theme 09.26.33 # need to test it on device 09.29.35 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 09.30.37 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.31.09 Join SynrG [0] (~synrg@debian/developer/synrg) 09.32.07 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09.43.27 Quit mshathlonxp (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 09.46.30 Quit nosa-j (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 09.47.36 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-79-185.clt.bellsouth.net) 09.48.27 # has anyone noticed that in our UsingGit document, in the first paragraph, we use two entirely different hostnames, as well as different protocols? 09.48.32 # is this deliberate? 09.48.48 # will and http clone request only work to the gerrit host? 09.48.54 # s/and/an/ 10.00.54 Quit adnap (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10.02.46 Quit dan_a (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 10.02.54 Quit jhMikeS (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10.03.03 Join adnap [0] (~adnap@rrcs-71-42-140-57.sw.biz.rr.com) 10.07.10 Quit hiptobecubic (Read error: Operation timed out) 10.12.35 # <[Saint]> MrFrost: There's other targets with the same resolution 10.12.43 # <[Saint]> Gigabeat, for example. 10.12.54 # <[Saint]> Grab a sim and test on that. 10.13.01 Join LinusN [0] (~linus@giant.haxx.se) 10.30.44 Join dan_a [0] (~dan_a@wormhole.domicilium.com) 10.32.54 Quit KiwiCam (Quit: Leaving) 10.32.56 Quit nick_p (Quit: Leaving) 10.36.29 Join mortalis [0] (~mortalis@77.108.98.176) 10.36.31 Join KiwiCam [0] (~KiwiCAM@51.197.69.111.dynamic.snap.net.nz) 10.44.43 Nick kugelp is now known as kugel (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 10.46.50 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 10.48.20 Nick kugel is now known as kugelp (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 10.49.31 Nick kugelp is now known as kugel (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 10.53.15 # Commit 7b99318 in rockbox by 03Andrew Ryabinin: HiFiMAN: Implement lcd powersave mode. 10.53.16 # Commit 3515388 in rockbox by 03Andrew Ryabinin: hm60x/hm801: Fix USB DAC functionality 10.55.38 # 3515388 build result: All green 11.04.19 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@5e007ec8.bb.sky.com) 11.05.05 # <[Saint]> evilnick: I probably messed up a batch find/replace job. 11.05.12 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@iwl138.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) 11.05.28 # <[Saint]> I'll have a look later on, and bug you by mail if you're not around. 11.05.33 # Still, it's no hassle for me to make sure that the fault is not at my side 11.05.52 # mortalis: wouldn't it be better to add parameter to iomux_lcd() and set pins accordingly? 11.05.57 # <[Saint]> For now, sorry, and revert to the latest you knew worked. 11.06.19 Quit nosa-j (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 11.06.58 Join TorneWuff [0] (~torne@lil.wolfpuppy.org.uk) 11.07.08 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-79-185.clt.bellsouth.net) 11.07.52 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 11.08.11 # [Saint]: can I download your latest theme somewhere? 11.08.28 Quit Torne (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 11.08.28 Nick TorneWuff is now known as Torne (~torne@lil.wolfpuppy.org.uk) 11.08.29 Quit Torne (Changing host) 11.08.29 Join Torne [0] (~torne@rockbox/developer/Torne) 11.08.50 # kugel: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/30204410/Rockbox%20as%20an%20Application/rockbox-480x800-r00010.zip 11.09.08 # Is the version that I have (that isn't working properly) 11.09.16 # * kugel needs 320x480 11.09.36 # [Saint]: Just FYI, it does seem to be the theme, no rush on the fix though 11.09.54 Quit kadoban (Read error: Operation timed out) 11.12.50 # wodz: do you mean something like: void iomux_lcd(bool is16bit) ? 11.13.40 # more something like iomux_lcd(enum rk27xx_mode_t mode) 11.14.03 # ok rk27xx_mode_t is not the best name but you see the concept 11.14.50 # is rbutil voice generation still broken? 11.14.53 # It would be best to leave lcdif-rk27xx.c quite generic 11.15.08 # Zagor: not as far as I know 11.15.45 # mortalis: How do you boot rockbox currently on hifimans? 11.15.55 # I committed bluebrother's website fix but I never heard if it solved it 11.16.13 Join [Saint_] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 11.17.01 # Zagor: http://www.rockbox.org/irc/log-20120221#20:26:39 is the closest I see 11.17.09 # wodz: I make BASE.RKW from rockbox.bin and replace it in OF 11.17.23 # gevaerts: ah, missed that. thanks. 11.17.38 # mortalis: you mean you patch BASE.RKW or replace completely? 11.17.54 # replace completely 11.18.18 # ah, ok so you store rockbox firmware on hidden partition right? 11.18.30 # and resource files on usd card 11.18.39 # yes 11.19.13 # mortalis: did you craft some custom tool or you use Alemaxx one? 11.19.30 # Alemaxx 11.21.49 # I was thinking a bit about booting rb on rk27xx platform. Basically we can 1) patch s2 nand bootloader 2) replace BASE.RKW with our bootloader and boot off usd 3) patch BASE.RKW and boot rb from usd and OF from hidden partition 11.22.11 # the simplest is 2) 11.22.27 # and the slowest for sure 11.23.38 # in case 2 we couldn't make dualboot, right? 11.23.39 # mortalis: is there a known way to expose hidden partition on hifi's 11.23.49 # mortalis: why not? 11.24.09 # mortalis: we will need to load original BASE.RKW from usd though 11.24.53 # mortalis: and why hold button is not supported in rb? 11.27.00 # to expose hidden partion we need to make empty file HIFIMAN.SYS in internal flash. Of couse it works only for OF 11.28.06 # cool, this will make installation process trivial 11.28.07 # I don't know how to read hold button state. Maybe it should read through SPI 11.28.59 # mortalis: Have you tracked traces on PCB? I suspect it is connected to gpio which is simply missconfigured 11.29.39 # spi for just one button is unlikely 11.30.02 Join hiptobecubic [0] (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) 11.30.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.38.12 # wodz: No i haven't. I checked all calls of GPIO_GetPinLevel in OF, no one of those pins used for hold 11.39.38 # I tried to configure SCU to work as much gpios as possible and it give no result 11.53.00 Quit [Saint_] (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 11.53.46 Join [Saint_] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 11.54.56 Quit [Saint_] (Client Quit) 12.21.31 # mortalis: When I find some free time I'll try to craft something according to booting approach 2) 12.21.39 Join nosa [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-42-94.clt.bellsouth.net) 12.21.57 Quit nosa-j (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 12.21.57 Nick nosa is now known as nosa-j (~m00k@adsl-74-235-42-94.clt.bellsouth.net) 12.29.09 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@f049204086.adsl.alicedsl.de) 12.33.21 Quit Topy44 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 12.34.49 Join anewuser [0] (~anewuser@190.207.195.122) 12.34.49 Quit anewuser (Changing host) 12.34.49 Join anewuser [0] (~anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 12.36.31 # wodz: nice. btw approach 1) is impossible on hfm's without shorting out pins 12.36.33 Join lorenzo92 [0] (~chatzilla@host209-110-dynamic.17-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) 12.36.53 # uhm I don't find any button to add a task to gerrit...hints? 12.37.10 # or possible, but i dunno how 12.37.42 # mortalis: It is possible - it will need different protocol (you sent me dumps of communication) 12.38.02 # lorenzo92: UsingGit covers uploading for review 12.38.16 # lorenzo92: I mean www.rockbox.org/wiki/UsingGit 12.38.36 # thanks 12.38.59 # mortalis: From the posts on the forum I don't quite get why one need to overwrite nand bootloader to uninstall rockbox 12.49.12 # wodz: I don't quiet get what are you talking about. There is no need to overwrite nand bootloader. 12.49.39 Quit lorenzo92 (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 12.50.25 Join ReinD [0] (~565596a2@www.haxx.se) 12.50.30 # IIRC dumps i sent you overwrite hidden partition (it's non ROM DFU mode) 12.51.24 # to overwrite nand bootlader ROM DFU mode needed 12.51.50 # Hi, can someone add my to the WikiUsersGroup? I'd like to add my Classic battery benchmark results later today 12.51.51 # mortalis: so why one need to shorten nand pins to recover? To uninstall it is enough to overwrite firmware partition as you don't touch nand bootloader 12.53.22 Quit GodEater_ (Quit: Page closed) 12.56.41 # wodz: if you are talking about http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,32587.0.html , then didn't seen such problem before, and didn't know how to solve. That's why I adviced him to short out pins hoping that it would help. Normaly uninstalling goes without shorting out. 12.57.24 # ok, now its clear 12.57.24 Quit hiptobecubic (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 12.58.29 # does hifi's have fm chip? 12.58.59 # hmm, I guess not 13.03.25 # wodz: you ar right 13.06.44 # ReinD: what's your wiki name? 13.07.06 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-068-213-037-174.sip.mcn.bellsouth.net) 13.08.34 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 13.09.52 # mortalis: it's also 'ReinD' if I'm correct 13.10.45 # ReinD: we demand your real name for the wiki 13.11.32 # kugel: and I should give that here on a public IRC? 13.11.52 # Commit 7c215b1 in rockbox by 03Thomas Martitz: (Author: Jean-Louis Biasini) bounce's plugin PLA integration (main code + manual) 13.12.18 # ReinD: yea 13.12.41 # well you can give your name in private chat too but it's visible on rockbox.org anyway 13.13.00 # and you all did the same thing? 13.13.16 # yes 13.13.17 # sure 13.13.24 # okay, it's Reinoud Dik 13.14.02 # okay, that doesnt fix the wrong user name for the wiki though :) 13.14.18 # 7c215b1 build result: All green 13.14.26 # don't know if you can change it or should make a new one? 13.14.37 # so I need to make a new username / account? 13.15.49 # perhaps Zagor can change it 13.16.06 # sure 13.16.45 # zagor: thanks 13.17.13 # done 13.17.24 # ReinoudDik is your new username 13.18.31 # ZagorL thank you, so now I can publish my benchmark results? :) 13.20.25 # Commit a60bc25 in rockbox by 03Thomas Martitz: (Author: Jean-Louis Biasini) fireworks's plugin PLA integration 13.21.27 # ReinD: I added you to wiki users group. Now you can. 13.22.17 # mortalis: thanks man! My browser says that the password will be sent unencrypted, is that 'normal' for this website? 13.22.25 # a60bc25 build result: All green 13.30.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.38.30 # is the Reviewed column visible to everyone or only me? 13.39.06 # just you 13.39.13 Join nosa [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-42-94.clt.bellsouth.net) 13.39.16 # it's just a trivial note about whether you have looked at a given file 13.39.35 Quit nosa-j (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 13.39.35 Nick nosa is now known as nosa-j (~m00k@adsl-74-235-42-94.clt.bellsouth.net) 13.39.38 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 13.40.38 # alright 13.52.40 Join antil33t| [0] (~Ahurhurr@101.98.150.103) 13.52.41 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 13.54.12 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@c-68-61-166-99.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) 13.54.12 Quit jhMikeS (Changing host) 13.54.12 Join jhMikeS [0] (~jethead71@rockbox/developer/jhMikeS) 13.55.08 Quit antil33t (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 14.10.04 Quit anewuser (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.16.39 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 14.36.54 Quit merbanan (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 14.37.39 Join antil33t [0] (~Ahurhurr@101.98.150.103) 14.40.34 Quit antil33t| (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 14.45.23 Join antil33t| [0] (~Ahurhurr@101.98.150.103) 14.47.27 Quit antil33t (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 14.49.59 Join merbanan [0] (~benjamin@h217-27-188-82.cust.tyfon.se) 14.52.56 Join antil33t [0] (~Ahurhurr@101.98.150.103) 14.55.08 Quit antil33t| (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 14.55.15 Quit nosa-j (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.55.29 # http://www.mctek.tk/cgi-bin/wiki/wiki.cgi?page=Android/Rockbox/Build 14.56.10 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-42-94.clt.bellsouth.net) 14.57.24 Join WalkGood [0] (~4@unaffiliated/walkgood) 15.00.23 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 15.02.01 Join antil33t| [0] (~Ahurhurr@101.98.150.103) 15.03.48 Quit antil33t (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 15.04.41 # heh 15.06.07 Join hiptobecubic [0] (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) 15.06.11 Join antil33t [0] (~Ahurhurr@101.98.150.103) 15.06.46 # Commit 3a4f8cd in rockbox by 03Thomas Martitz: fireworks: ues PLA_EXIT to exit without going through the menu. 15.08.26 Quit antil33t| (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 15.08.56 # 3a4f8cd build result: All green 15.11.24 Join antil33t| [0] (~Ahurhurr@101.98.150.103) 15.12.51 # Zagor: I wonder how he managed that statusbar. it looks it would be a sbs but it shows android elements 15.14.18 Quit antil33t (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 15.16.06 Join antil33t [0] (~Ahurhurr@101.98.150.103) 15.17.06 # kugel: The cellphone reception icon is volume: http://www.mctek.tk/cgi-bin/wiki/wiki.cgi?page=Rockbox%CD%D1%A5%B9%A5%AD%A5%F3 15.18.50 Quit antil33t| (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 15.21.20 # evilnick: I thought so :) I meant the rockbox and adb/android logo 15.23.46 Join antil33t| [0] (~Ahurhurr@101.98.150.103) 15.23.48 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 15.25.06 Quit Utchy (Read error: Operation timed out) 15.25.43 Join Utchy [0] (~Utchy@rps6752.ovh.net) 15.26.15 Quit antil33t (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 15.29.31 Quit nosa-j (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.30.10 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-42-94.clt.bellsouth.net) 15.30.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.42.55 # how do i make sure that album art is displayed over an image, not under it? the sorting order in the wps code doesn't seem to matter, album art always displays under the image (i can't use a regular backdrop for this issue) 15.44.28 # with "under" i mean the album art gets covered by the image 15.49.17 Quit nosa-j (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 15.50.41 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-42-94.clt.bellsouth.net) 15.54.24 Quit ps-auxw (Quit: leaving) 15.54.43 Join ps-auxw [0] (~arneb@2001:470:c807:0:1532:4e5f:2ad3:4123) 15.56.59 Part Zagor 16.05.00 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 16.19.23 Join factor [0] (~factor@r74-195-184-248.msk1cmtc01.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 16.26.41 Quit ReinD (Quit: CGI:IRC (EOF)) 16.33.41 Quit MrFrost (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 16.39.00 Join petur [0] (~petur@rockbox/developer/petur) 16.41.32 Join MrFrost [0] (~b27ebce7@www.haxx.se) 16.43.31 Quit MrFrost (Client Quit) 16.43.39 Join MrFrost [0] (~b27e0f92@www.haxx.se) 16.46.47 Quit MrFrost (Client Quit) 16.46.52 Join MrFrost [0] (~b27e0f92@www.haxx.se) 16.49.03 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 16.50.21 Quit merbanan (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 16.51.58 Join zenlunatic [0] (~justin@c-68-48-40-231.hsd1.md.comcast.net) 16.52.09 Quit MrFrost (Quit: CGI:IRC) 16.52.14 Join MrFrost [0] (~b27e0c43@www.haxx.se) 16.57.41 Quit MrFrost (Quit: CGI:IRC (Ping timeout)) 16.58.38 Join MrFrost [0] (~252d4b14@www.haxx.se) 16.59.17 # Can someone add me to theWikiUsersGroup pls? 17.09.28 # What's your wiki name? 17.09.44 # EugeneAveryanov 17.11.18 # OK, done 17.11.41 # thanks :) 17.12.20 # no problem 17.21.07 Quit hiptobecubic (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 17.21.12 Part LinusN 17.28.32 Quit dionoea (Read error: Operation timed out) 17.30.48 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.31.42 Join dionoea [0] (~dionoea@yop.chewa.net) 17.35.52 Quit evilnick (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 17.44.59 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@5e007ec8.bb.sky.com) 17.52.37 Quit advcomp2019_ (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) 17.58.41 Join anewuser [0] (~anewuser@190.207.129.184) 17.58.42 Quit anewuser (Changing host) 17.58.42 Join anewuser [0] (~anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 17.59.35 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! 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Why is my post in the forums showing up twice? 19.06.00 Join kadoban [0] (~kadoban@ip98-165-177-158.ph.ph.cox.net) 19.06.21 Join dhrasmus [0] (~dhrasmus@c-98-246-192-57.hsd1.or.comcast.net) 19.06.40 # and deleting on of them deletes both :( 19.07.43 Quit kaner (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 19.08.42 Join kaner [0] (~kaner@zzz.strace.org) 19.10.36 Join blackers [0] (blackers@ABordeaux-553-1-162-185.w2-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) 19.10.44 # hi 19.10.50 # is there anybody? 19.11.23 # there is 19.11.51 # thanks, i have a strange problem with my iPod 5th gen 19.12.00 Quit anewuser (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.12.30 # i just bought it, and the rockbox firmware makes a background noise if you see what i mean 19.12.47 Quit Staphylo (Read error: Operation timed out) 19.13.04 Join Staphylo [0] (~Staphylo@mareo.fr) 19.13.29 Join anewuser [0] (~anewuser@190.207.129.184) 19.13.30 Quit anewuser (Changing host) 19.13.30 Join anewuser [0] (~anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 19.14.14 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@e179039115.adsl.alicedsl.de) 19.14.29 # blackers: i don't see what you mean, could you describe your problem in more detail? 19.14.56 # when does it happen, is it not preseint in the Original Firmware? 19.15.16 # ok i'll try to explain better, i'm not english 19.16.05 # so, in the original firmware i have a little background noise. a little embarrassing but nevermind. 19.16.23 # when i install rockbox, it becames more noisy 19.16.42 # not only when i play sound, the noise is always 19.17.30 # you know better what i mean? 19.17.58 # i think so, that sounds like a harware issue that is for some reason just a bit worse in rockbox. Do you use the same volume in rockbox and OF ? 19.18.28 # the volume doesn't matter, the noise is always the same 19.18.34 # i don't have an ipod 5g but several daps have a slight background hiss 19.18.48 # it's not dependant on volume? 19.19.06 # no 19.19.32 # when the volume is at 0, the noise is the same 19.19.57 # 0db? that is usually rahter loud 19.20.24 # hmm no i don't mean 0db 19.20.40 # i mean the lowest volume 19.20.53 # i don't remeber how much it is 19.20.58 Quit knittl (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 19.21.21 # ok, well to me it sounds like a hw issue but perhaps some ipod video user can comment? 19.21.41 # i think it is... 19.21.59 # i'm trying to reinstall 19.22.40 # that is very unlikely to help 19.22.51 # reinstalling won't help if it is hw issue 19.23.10 # yes but it's the only thing i can do right now 19.23.12 # If you have the same in the OF it likely to be this 19.23.25 # but this is not the same 19.23.35 # in the OF it's a little noise 19.23.53 # hm 19.24.07 # as i said its not very embarrassing 19.24.09 # this is probably amplifier noise 19.24.14 # in rockbox its louder 19.24.27 # yes it can be 19.24.37 # your ipod is brand new? 19.24.42 # no 19.24.51 # i bought it frome ebay... 19.25.07 # oh 19.25.26 # it's a 5th gen, originally 30Gb but harddisk have been remplaced 80 gb 19.26.35 # so it was dissasembled 19.26.38 # when i'm -90 db it makes no noise 19.26.47 # but when i'm 89 it makes 19.27.10 Join knittl [0] (~knittl@unaffiliated/knittl) 19.27.15 # at -90 amplifier is off 19.27.18 # around -10 it begins to be louder 19.27.19 # i think so 19.28.39 # i think this is something with shielding 19.28.58 # what is that? 19.29.30 # i don't know how to explain in english 19.30.02 # you are what nationality? 19.30.09 # belarussian 19.30.17 # ok 19.30.28 # try to explain anyways? 19.30.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.30.55 # devices inside a player 19.31.19 # make noise 19.31.38 # if amplifier is unshielded it can be affected by this 19.31.47 # noises 19.31.49 # ok 19.32.11 # http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_shielding 19.32.15 # i see what you mean, but why my amplifier would be unshielded 19.32.28 # yes 'im on this page already :) 19.32.37 # because it was disassembled by some men 19.32.51 # and may be assembled not right 19.33.45 # yes it must be 19.33.53 # and i know it was dissasembled 19.34.22 # so, do you think its possible for me to reassemble and fix it? 19.34.25 # i think that is the reason 19.35.21 # and second question, do you know why noise becames louder in rockbox? 19.36.00 # I don;t know 19.36.05 # ok 19.36.24 # what you said helped me, thanks a lot 19.36.44 # if you have other ideas tell me 19.37.54 # btw amplifiers make a so called white noise 19.38.25 # when it's on you can hear a sizzle 19.38.30 # not loud 19.38.38 # it's normal 19.38.49 # and? the noise is not frome the amplifier, isn't it? 19.38.54 # from* 19.39.38 # i mean, yes it is, but if it's a sheld problem 19.39.39 # it is from it 19.39.52 # the amplifier is not damaged 19.40.42 # if your player plays music it's not damaged i think 19.41.04 Join dan_a [0] (~dan_a@217.23.173.156) 19.43.15 # yes 19.45.21 # is there ipod 5th users here? 19.45.29 # do you have this little noise too? 19.46.15 Quit dan_a (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 19.54.02 # good morning 19.54.18 # i got a toshiba gigabeat but i dont know what model it is 19.54.39 # or if i can connect it using the standard usb port to my linux machine to put rockbox on it 19.54.57 # Does it look like any of the ones we support? 19.55.00 # i am pretty sure its either an s/f/x 19.55.12 # Does it have a tocuh cross on the front? 19.55.21 # Or a physical cross? 19.55.31 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/pub/Main/GigabeatBatteryUpgrade/step-2.jpg 19.55.36 # and dmesg might tell you something 19.55.48 # does it have a windows button? 19.55.49 # wait 19.55.51 # yes 19.55.55 # mine has a windows button 19.56.03 # Is that a picture of yours? 19.56.10 # As that picture looks like a F 19.56.17 # thats the difference betweent that picture and mine 19.56.22 # But the F doesn't have a windows button, the S does 19.56.23 # the S has a windows button, the f/x don't 19.56.33 # mine is the same color and the cross control is the same 19.56.37 # ahh 19.56.37 # but the S has a physical cross button, not the touch type 19.56.47 # this is a button cross 19.56.51 # though there are other gigabeats we don't support that might have one too 19.56.53 # so yes it must be the S 19.56.59 # sound slike the S yes 19.57.02 # Sounds like an S, but it might be another that we don't support 19.57.11 # Model MES30V 19.57.20 # that's the S i think 19.57.29 # Yep 19.57.36 # yeah, same as mine 19.58.05 # cool :3 19.58.31 # is there anything i need to do before i rockbox it? 19.59.06 # no, just follow the instructions, the install can be a bit tricky i think but i don't quite remember 20.00.02 # hopefully its easier than the Clip 20.00.07 # that was a pain in the arse 20.00.17 # but by god is it sexy :3 20.01.23 # i got this mp3 player for 6$ 20.01.51 # thats as much as i paid for my Zen Vision M 20.02.40 # * Mir does prefer the C200 and the E200 though over the clip or the iTouchMyselfAtNight from Apple 20.07.28 # the c200 is rather crap :) 20.07.44 # the beast is nice but the battery time isn't good 20.14.03 # i get 27 hours out of my C240 20.14.08 # with rockbox 20.14.15 # much more than my clip 20.15.36 # i think the sound quality is rather bad and it needs to be cranked almost to the max to drive my headphones, the display is also bad 20.15.51 # odd 20.15.58 # i have good soundquality on mine 20.16.16 # it's obviously subjective 20.16.16 # and only need the volume at -34db to drive my headphones 20.16.28 # and thats on all 4 of my C200's 20.16.30 # and depends on the headphones too 20.16.33 # yea 20.16.41 # mine are JVC marshmellows 20.16.48 # the hp jack is rather easy to break off the pcb too 20.17.02 # hehe 20.17.13 Quit leavittx (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 20.17.26 # the jack on one of my Vision M's is kinda broken 20.17.29 # it still works 20.24.21 # * Mir lurks off 20.25.28 Quit Mir (Remote host closed the connection) 20.35.18 Quit mortalis (Quit: KVIrc 4.1.1 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 20.40.06 Join jlbiasini [0] (~metaphys@d86-32-96-55.cust.tele2.at) 20.41.47 Join BoogleBoy [0] (~Faris@host-78-144-178-46.as13285.net) 20.42.28 Quit petur (Quit: here today, gone tomorrow) 20.42.57 # Im installing rockbox into an ipod video using the windows rockbox utility but Its like froze on the theme installation 20.43.10 # Like I cant select the screen, what should I do? 20.43.22 Nick BoogleBoy is now known as fairs3 (~Faris@host-78-144-178-46.as13285.net) 20.44.09 # oh no matter sorted 20.44.39 # bluebrother: isn't there a way to have linguist-qt4 translating all the occurence of a sentence with the same translation? The french translation can be very different from one method to another - while always translating the same sentence. 20.48.57 Join curtism [0] (~curtis@bas11-montreal02-1128531121.dsl.bell.ca) 20.48.58 Quit curtism (Changing host) 20.48.58 Join curtism [0] (~curtis@unaffiliated/programble) 20.49.31 Join sean_fosterbrown [0] (0cc4cd02@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.196.205.2) 20.51.21 # Hi. Is any part of rockbox written in C++? I know C++ but am not very good with C. 20.51.38 # rockbox utility is c++ 20.51.45 # but rockbox itself doesn't use c++ 20.51.59 # Oh. OK. 20.52.16 # Guess I'll just have to work harder at learning C then 20.52.22 Quit sean_fosterbrown (Client Quit) 20.52.23 # c is basically a subset of c++, so you pretty much already know it 20.55.09 # Well, yes, but you can do a *lot* of c++ without seeing much of the common bits 20.56.20 Join hiptobecubic [0] (~john@unaffiliated/hiptobecubic) 21.06.33 Quit evilnick (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 21.09.52 # any ipod 5th gen users here? 21.11.41 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@5e007ec8.bb.sky.com) 21.13.59 Join leavittx [0] (~leavittx@89.221.199.187) 21.17.53 Quit evilnick (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.21.50 # jlbiasini: linguist provides suggestions for translations. Look for the "phrases and guesses" pane 21.22.41 # yes I saw that but I all installation files the two first sentence are the same 21.23.19 # well, there's no easy way to do that except the usual copy and paste 21.23.59 Quit curtism (Quit: Live Long and Prosper) 21.24.09 # the problem is that Qt considers two identical strings in different classes to be different -- which is a good thing, since that could mean they have a different context and actually require a different translation 21.24.32 # That is what I wanted to know. Some translationn are following english to closely but I guess it's ok 21.25.14 # if some translations are off of the normal way of describing things in the target language you're welcome to fix that. 21.25.38 Join curtism [0] (~curtis@bas11-montreal02-1128531121.dsl.bell.ca) 21.25.39 Quit curtism (Changing host) 21.25.39 Join curtism [0] (~curtis@unaffiliated/programble) 21.25.47 # translations are contributed, and I have no way to verify if the translations make sense (except for the languages I speak obviously ;-) 21.25.57 Quit dhrasmus (Quit: Leaving) 21.26.04 # well it's mostly ok, it's just me playing the smart guy :D 21.27.09 # to be honest I'm not really satisfied with the german translation even if I did it myself. But if you're looking at a GUI in english all the time it can become quite hard to translate that in a good way :) 21.27.23 # but I had the ts file from yesterday and now I'm in a merge trouble. I should figure it out but it will take some time 21.27.54 # merge trouble? Because I ran lupdate on it? 21.28.07 # ganz genau! 21.28.13 # :D 21.28.16 # oh, that's actually pretty easy 21.28.49 # drop the changes done in my commit and replace it with your version. Then run lupdate rbutilqt.pro 21.29.05 # that will update the translation source files while keeping the existing translations 21.29.17 # or better, run lupdate -noobsolete rbutilqt.pro 21.29.25 # ok 21.29.34 # (that's what I did) 21.29.48 # what is lupdate?? 21.30.30 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.30.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.32.26 Quit WalkGood () 21.32.34 Join factor [0] (~factor@r74-195-184-248.msk1cmtc01.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 21.33.38 # it's a tool that syncs the ts file with the strings in the code. 21.33.51 # ah ok 21.33.52 # it's part of Qt 21.34.06 # (might be called lupdate-qt4 depending on your distro / installation) 21.34.24 # (pretty much the same as distros do with qmake vs qmake-qt4 etc) 21.34.45 # no it was lupdate (debian 64) 21.34.59 # http://developer.qt.nokia.com/doc/qt-4.8/linguist-manager.html#lupdate 21.35.09 Quit MrFrost (Quit: CGI:IRC) 21.35.48 # I sometimes run it and commit all updated translation files even if the translation itself isn't updated -- helps if someone wants to update a translation and can't / forgets to run lupdate first. 21.43.13 Quit hiptobecubic (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 21.47.06 Quit MethoS- (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 21.47.13 Quit blackers () 21.47.52 # dfkt: how were you accidentally hitting the pitch screen? 21.48.00 # i don't think i've had that happen, at least not on the clip+ 21.50.45 # by sticking it in my jeans front pocket ;) 21.51.18 # accidental play/pause or track skip is no biggie, but fixing pitch changes and getting out of the pitch screen is really annoying 21.51.44 # it's more of an issue with the zip than the clip+ though 21.53.08 Join blackers [0] (blackers@ABordeaux-553-1-162-185.w2-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) 21.53.56 # do you know why i have a poor transfer rate? i transfer @600Ko/s, i have an iPod 5th gen 21.54.17 Quit curtism (Quit: Live Long and Prosper) 21.54.21 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@seas662.wireless-pennnet.upenn.edu) 21.54.31 # dfkt: so its the play button getting pressed by accident? 21.54.56 # saratoga, yes - a long press on the play button is IMO a really poor place for such a niche feature 21.55.15 # well most other buttons would be just as easy to hit right? 21.55.42 Nick soap_ is now known as soap (~soap@rockbox/staff/soap) 21.55.53 # yeah, but no other functions in the wps screen are that hard to get out of as the pitch screen 21.57.01 # i'm not sure if/where other ports have the pitch screen? 21.57.14 # on my x5 a long press on play/pause stops playback 21.57.35 # bluebrother: here we go g#124 but check I merge it correctly because I'm not really sure 21.57.35 # we could make select exit the pitch screen 21.57.36 # 3Gerrit review #124 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#change,124 : Rockbox Utility: update french translation by Jean-Louis Biasini (changes/24/124/1) 21.57.38 # i think its unused now 21.58.16 # "Select Reset pitch and speed to 100%." 21.58.19 # so i guess not 21.58.28 # now it's power, iirc - the other issue is that you often have to fix pitch and/or speed before exiting the pitch screen 21.58.39 # "reset and quit" would be an option for select, but that might be really confusing for people 21.58.49 # we could also swap power and select 21.59.00 # i'd love to just have the pitch screen optional - enabled or disabled in the menu 21.59.12 # then the keymap could stay as it is, and whoever uses pitch is still happy 21.59.22 # i'd be ok with that, but i also think the keymap should be improved 21.59.34 Quit leavittx (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 21.59.35 # i don't know what other people think though 21.59.51 # other than the return-to-wps improvements i think the keymap works very well 22.00.03 # the radio screen and keyboard keymaps are weird 22.00.12 # the keyboard one in particular is really really weird 22.00.28 # that's true - i gave up naming presets on the player :p 22.00.32 Join curtism [0] (~curtis@bas11-montreal02-1128531121.dsl.bell.ca) 22.00.32 Quit curtism (Changing host) 22.00.33 Join curtism [0] (~curtis@unaffiliated/programble) 22.00.45 # its something like short press to select, long press to quit, so you have to actually sort of insert a charcter and thne hold it down and that saves it 22.00.56 # the fm keymap was made by me back in the days... but it sure could be better 22.01.04 # ha didn't realize that 22.01.15 # funman tricked me into it ;) 22.01.19 # i assumed it was copy and pasted from the original sansas 22.01.37 # i do like that comment in the keymap "copied from c200, fix later" 22.02.00 # i guess that is wrong then 22.02.12 # oh i don't remember what part of the keymap 22.02.21 # or if its even right, may not be related to anything we're talking about 22.02.33 # saratoga: but guess what happens if someone copied the keymap file that was copied from the c200 (and so forth) :) 22.03.15 # i'm sure it was copied from the e200 22.03.19 # which probably started out as an iriver 22.03.29 # i'm trying the clip zip fm screen at the moment (never actually used it) - seems fairly straightforward to me, what the center and down buttons do 22.03.30 # I found keymaps are pretty uncontroversial until the target is promoted stable 22.03.50 # the sansas are weird since so many people use them 22.04.02 # usually new ports don't get a lot of attention right away like they did 22.04.04 # using the home button to switch between scanning and preset is a bit off though - that could be used for the quickscreen, same as in the wps 22.04.13 # often people are afraid of changing keymaps that are just that way in order to have it compile ;) 22.04.21 # quick screen is the one with "shuffle" and "repeat"? 22.04.25 # in the WPS that is 22.04.25 # yeah 22.04.31 # and whatever you put there 22.04.46 # ugh and select doesn't quit the quickscreen 22.05.05 # saratoga: normally the button that enters it quits it too 22.05.12 # Press Long Home to access it and Select to exit. 22.05.15 # shuffle/repeat makes no sense for fm, but bass/treble/crossfeed/etc quick access sure would 22.05.16 # that doesn't work for me 22.05.33 # in the wps? 22.05.49 # yeah 22.05.53 # i hold home and it enters 22.05.55 # short home exits quickscreen, which is much more logical 22.06.04 # but select does not exit it like the manual says, only home does that 22.06.07 # guess the manual is more complicated ;) 22.06.17 # perhaps both should exit? 22.06.47 # we should start a wiki of Sansa keymap weirdness 22.06.57 # wouldn't hurt to have it redundant 22.07.01 # hah 22.08.06 # anyone care if I just fix this right now to match what the manual says? or do i have to ask 22.08.20 Quit blackers () 22.08.22 # just don't take the short home press away please :) 22.08.45 # or maybe better to adjust the manual? 22.09.19 # the keymap actually defines both home and power to quit it, neither of which the manual mentions :) 22.09.30 # heh 22.09.32 Join dan_a [0] (dan_a@217.23.173.156) 22.09.34 # i could add select (currently does nothing for some reason) and leave the others 22.09.47 # i think having select not do anything in a menu is really weird actually 22.10.03 # well i guess its a "screen" but it functions like a menu 22.10.32 Join bluebrother^ [0] (~dom@g224238166.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.10.32 Quit bluebrother^ (Changing host) 22.10.32 Join bluebrother^ [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 22.10.32 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 22.11.52 # kugel: (i think i haven't asked you already) did you have an opinion on FS#12288 ? 22.12.08 # i think all the other AMS developers were in favor 22.12.23 # no 22.12.24 # :) 22.12.30 # (I have no opinion) 22.12.38 # ok then as far as I am concerned its agreed on 22.13.00 # you think its worth sending an email to the list reminding people that i've been asking about this for weeks or should i just do it 22.13.33 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.13.37 # not sure 22.13.51 # difficult to tell for a target that went stable within a few weeks 22.14.02 # its for all clips, not just the zip 22.14.05 # they all use the same keymap 22.14.14 # oh, seems i was a bit too late with FS#12596 22.14.23 # didn't see FS#12288 before 22.15.10 # ah ok 22.15.16 # what did HOME do before? 22.15.28 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g224238166.adsl.alicedsl.de) 22.15.35 # home returns to main menu 22.15.47 # kugel: it would return you to the file or radio menu 22.15.50 # I think going to music/fm radio from the very main menu (and to the main menu from anywhere else) would make sense 22.16.33 # kugel: (more info) http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,31572.0.html 22.16.45 # "Press \ActionStdQuickScreen{} to access it and \ActionQuickScreenExit{} to exit." 22.16.50 # ugh this isn't going to be so easy to fix 22.17.34 # oh maybe not 22.17.42 # * kugel maintains that he has no opinion on the clip keymap 22.19.29 # fair enough 22.21.03 # is the manual built through configure? 22.21.16 # saratoga: fwiw, I *was* a AMS developer until the whole RaaA thing distracted me ;) 22.21.24 # yeah i remember 22.21.30 # so it's probably better to not count me in 22.21.42 # i nominated you for SVN access so that you would work on AMS more :) 22.21.52 # heh, which I did :) 22.23.17 # saratoga: and thanks for believing in me too :) 22.23.33 # no problem 22.23.39 # ah its "make manual" 22.24.31 # ah right the manual should reflect the change 22.24.57 # right now i'm just trying to fix the keymap for the quckscreen in the manual 22.25.14 # although i guess i could do all of this at once as sort of keymap + manual fix 22.25.37 # or use git's new thing to do it as several commits 22.26.26 Join perrikwp_ [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 22.29.00 Quit perrikwp (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 22.29.33 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 22.31.51 # so i do a "git add" of the manual file I changed, then do a commit and it locally commits my changes until i push them? 22.32.26 # yes 22.32.35 # git commit -v shows the diff it's going to commit 22.34.31 # is there a template for the commit window? 22.34.38 # or should I just describe like i do for SVN 22.35.39 # git add -p is also nice if you just want to commit a part of the diff 22.36.45 # hm, I used git add so far only like I used to use svn add 22.36.58 # they're not really the same 22.39.03 Join Rower [0] (husvagn@v-413-alfarv-90.bitnet.nu) 22.39.13 # whats the command to revert a patch? 22.39.39 # did you commit it? 22.39.49 # or just applied 22.40.15 # as 'git checkout [file]' is fine if you didn't commit it 22.40.27 # if you committed it, you want git reset 22.40.50 # that's also why working in branches is a good idea 22.41.06 # since you can just abandon one if you decide it was bad 22.41.17 # i didn't commit it 22.41.19 # We need svn-git, to use svn locally to work with a git repo :) 22.42.22 Quit Rower85 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 22.42.24 # now that i've committed two patches locally, I just do "git push origin HEAD:master"? 22.42.33 # there are like 10 subtly different ways of doing everything and few people seem to grasp all the details 22.42.41 # no its better this way so i learn what the hell git is doing 22.43.19 # saratoga: i just followed the steps in the UsingGit page and that worked for me 22.43.20 # saratoga, a git log before the push to verify things is usually a good idea 22.43.37 # "git log -p" is nice for the full patch view 22.44.06 # hmm i noticed a typo in my commit 22.44.14 # "git commit --amend" 22.44.28 # how does it know which commit gets amended? 22.44.37 # it only amends the last 22.44.47 # how do i amend the first? 22.45.13 # then you create a new branch, and "cherry-pick" in the commits one by one and amend them as you pick them 22.45.33 # "cherry-pick" sucks in a commit from one branch into another 22.45.51 # how do i do that? 22.46.06 # oh hell how do i just revert everything and start over 22.46.14 # AlexP: haha, what a bad idea :) 22.46.16 # Bagder: could I get developper permission on FS (I cannot even edit the task I open for now...) 22.46.41 # "git reset --hard HEAD" I believe throws away all local commits 22.47.00 # or you could just commit your fix, interactive rebase and mark the fix as a fixup 22.47.04 # no it throws all uncommitted stuff 22.47.18 # * bluebrother^ runs over to jlbiasini and steals a p from a word :) 22.47.18 # with --hard and HEAD? 22.47.23 # yes 22.47.26 # that didn't seem to do anything 22.47.31 # HEAD^ perhaps? 22.47.45 # ah yes, or ~[count] for the number to cut off 22.47.45 # HEAD is the latest commit, local or not 22.47.59 # so how do i do HEAD-1 22.48.23 # ~, not - 22.48.26 # :D 22.48.27 # or just HEAD^ 22.48.36 # HEAD^ is -1 22.49.44 # * n1s watches as more evidence in support of his point is presented :) 22.49.46 # jlbiasini: you usually get FS permission when you're given push access 22.50.17 # * n1s also wonders if kugel is going to s/COMITTERS/PUSHERS 22.50.42 # kugel: we have given people developer permissions on FS without commit access in the past. 22.50.56 # bluebrother^: really? 22.51.02 # * kugel wasn't aware 22.51.11 # * kugel also said usually to be on the safe side ;) 22.51.20 # n1s: I agree with you, but svn is like a kids toy compared to git being a real car, of course git allows a bazillion more ways to do things 22.51.40 # including many more ways to shoot yourself in the foot 22.52.08 # someday git will be the shorthand for redundancy 22.52.20 # git is the scariest thing i've ever tried not getting frightened of 22.52.23 # alright going to try this 22.53.02 # so let the shooting begin! 22.53.04 # Bagder: yeah, i'm not saying it's bad, it's just way more complicated than svn for doing simple things 22.53.09 # oh wait, we already migrated :P 22.53.34 # n1s: yes, but not without benefits 22.53.44 # n1s: not really. You can do things you can't do with svn 22.53.47 # and when you google for how to do something ther are always several different ways to do things that differ slightly 22.53.58 # apart from that, there's http://git.or.cz/course/svn.html 22.54.01 # "[remote rejected] HEAD -> master (you are not allowed to upload merges)" 22.54.06 # it took me a long while to adjust to git as well 22.54.16 # i don't know what any of that means 22.54.33 # bluebrother^: yes i know, that doesn't change that it's more complicated for simple things 22.54.54 # I find git very exciting! I was just about to fully understand svn before we migrated. Git is clearly super powerfull if ones get enough patient to really learn how to use it 22.55.00 # saratoga: when you pull (and have local commits) you get a merge commit. 22.55.15 # but our configuration currently doesn't allow pushing such merge commits 22.55.23 # git pull --rebase 22.55.27 # use git pull --rebase to avoid merge commits 22.55.35 # They break something or other apparently :) 22.55.44 # Commit f6e5ec4 in rockbox by 03Michael Giacomelli: Update the manual to include Home as a way of quitting the quicksreen on the Clip players. Leave Select in place since we'll add that next. 22.55.45 # Commit 8125877 in rockbox by 03Michael Giacomelli: Enable leaving the quickscreen with Select as the manual currently states should be possible. 22.55.57 # YES 22.56.00 # AlexP: not really, it is just a policy 22.56.23 # Bagder: I thought they made history hard to follow or something? 22.56.26 # * Bagder hands saratoga his git certificate 22.56.40 # :D 22.56.53 # Bagder: You can't get rid of it that easily 22.56.58 # AlexP: some will argue that, sure, but it's like a religious issue in the git land 22.57.01 # * bluebrother^ throws http://tbaggery.com/2008/04/19/a-note-about-git-commit-messages.html in the channel 22.57.25 # Bagder: ah, I just believe what I'm told in this area 22.57.52 # I too usually use the rebase approach in most projects 22.58.11 # 8125877 build result: All green 23.05.57 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 23.07.38 # Is it normal if mpio hd300 manual doesn't compile? 23.08.39 # the build server has an up to date compile 23.08.42 # so i assume it should compile 23.10.35 # ok I will start on some thing fresh and test that again 23.16.05 # right it compiles 23.17.26 # right I forgot a make clean 23.22.54 # "All settings are stored on the unit. 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