--- Log for 27.03.112 Server: leguin.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 6 days and 22 hours ago 00.00.15 # d5f4391 build result: 20 errors, 0 warnings (Thomas Martitz committed) 00.03.33 Join bitcraft [0] (~bitcraft@173-20-20-92.client.mchsi.com) 00.05.57 Part domonoky 00.06.25 # <[Saint]> KiwiCam: Ummm....what? 00.06.58 # <[Saint]> x,y coords are quite universal, my dear. 00.17.25 Quit Llorean (Quit: Leaving.) 00.17.26 # Commit 83cb2e5 in rockbox by 03Thomas Martitz: Fix warble and clean up/refactor Makefile. 00.17.39 # kugel: Having fun? :) 00.17.54 # 83cb2e5 build result: 4238 errors, 17148 warnings ( committed) 00.18.36 # AlexP_: yea...no :) 00.19.29 # They are, but not everyone realises that. 00.20.24 # Sometimes it hleps to state the obvious. 00.20.25 # wow, what happened now 00.21.17 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.1 [Firefox 12.0/20120321033733]) 00.21.54 # <[Saint]> "You ballsed up somethin', yo" 00.23.41 # http://build.rockbox.org/shownewlog.cgi?rev=83cb2e5;type=gigabeatssim why are logs empty ? 00.23.42 Join Scromple [0] (~Simon@119.225.209.134) 00.25.44 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@99-32-78-58.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) 00.25.48 Quit Llorean (Changing host) 00.25.48 Join Llorean [0] (~DarkkOne@rockbox/user/Llorean) 00.26.27 # Not my error, I don't think. 00.26.50 # <[Saint]> That's the spirit! 00.27.16 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 00.31.34 Quit factor (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.31.38 # kugel: did you mean replacing ifeq lines by ifneq lines? 00.32.08 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 00.32.09 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 00.32.09 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 00.36.07 # gevaerts: any hint on how to enable reboot on usb plug? 00.36.36 Quit ender` (Quit: Cluster bombing from B-52s is very, very accurate -- the bombs always hit the ground.) 00.36.51 # funman: with any luck, disable USE_ROCKBOX_ISB 00.36.52 # *USB 00.38.15 Quit Topy44 (Remote host closed the connection) 00.38.21 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 00.39.16 # in usb.c try_reboot() is under (defined(HAVE_USBSTACK) && !defined(USE_ROCKBOX_USB)) 00.39.33 Quit bitcraft (Remote host closed the connection) 00.39.45 # yes 00.39.57 # Hm, wait 00.40.14 # That code *may* assume basic functionality 00.40.44 # not only plug detection? 00.41.09 # I'm not sure now 00.41.54 # I *think* if you don't have USB_DETECT_BY_REQUEST, plug detection is probably enough 00.44.08 # kugel: sorry, I misread that entirely 00.44.41 # Hm, or not? 00.46.43 Quit mcgrof (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 00.47.48 Join PaulJam [0] (~Paule@p54BEC57B.dip.t-dialin.net) 00.49.17 # kugel: I suspect you need http://paste.debian.net/161073/ 00.49.24 # That seems to fix things for me 01.05.14 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 01.11.12 Quit prof_wolfff (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 01.19.33 Quit saratoga_ (Quit: Page closed) 01.23.34 # Commit 215ac63 in rockbox by 03Frank Gevaerts: Fix makefile conditions 01.25.41 # 215ac63 build result: 0 errors, 2 warnings (Frank Gevaerts committed) 01.34.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.44.28 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.55=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 01.44.59 Quit kadoban_ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 02.00.58 Join kadoban_ [0] (~kadoban@ip98-165-177-158.ph.ph.cox.net) 02.06.11 Quit kadoban_ (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 02.15.33 Quit PaulJam (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 02.16.04 Join chattr [0] (~mike@97.100.207.201) 02.16.10 Part chattr ("gone") 02.51.40 Quit qnm (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 03.19.10 Quit [Saint] (Quit: Quit) 03.19.22 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 03.20.15 Join qnm [0] (~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a) 03.23.35 # gevaerts: usb_acknowledge is never called 03.23.46 Join [Saint_] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 03.25.47 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 03.26.34 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng307.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 03.27.13 # usb_tick sees the USB_INSERTED event 03.29.18 # which calls usb_enable(true), which has no effect on nano2g. and what should generate SYS_USB_CONNECTED_ACK ? 03.34.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.36.25 # /* Exclusive storage access not required */ 03.36.29 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 03.40.14 # this ifdef hell is hopeless 03.43.55 # ok so try_reboot() is finally called but it doesn't work 03.44.45 Join bitcraft [0] (~bitcraft@173-20-20-92.client.mchsi.com) 03.44.51 Quit bitcraft (Remote host closed the connection) 03.45.05 # <[Saint_]> You can imagine how quickly I decided to turn and run from the madness in this driver... 03.45.24 # i mean firmware/usb.c 03.46.45 # 15% of that file is preprocessor directives 03.47.04 # [7]: why wouldn't system_reboot work on nano2g? 03.49.23 # [7]: gevaerts: g#181 updated (doesn't work, system_reboot apparently has no effect) 03.49.24 # 3Gerrit review #181 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#change,181 : Nano2g: reboot to OF (disk mode) on USB plug by Rafaël Carré (changes/81/181/4) 03.49.35 Nick [Saint_] is now known as [Saint] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 04.18.33 Join [Saint_] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 04.19.32 Quit [Saint] (Disconnected by services) 04.19.35 Nick [Saint_] is now known as [Saint] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 04.28.39 Join Topy44 [0] (~topy@f049113114.adsl.alicedsl.de) 04.33.30 Join kadoban_ [0] (~kadoban@ip98-165-177-158.ph.ph.cox.net) 04.34.17 Quit Topy44 (Remote host closed the connection) 04.41.35 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 04.43.12 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 04.45.52 Quit MethoS- (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 04.50.08 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 04.54.48 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 05.18.05 Join amiconn_ [0] (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 05.18.06 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 05.18.27 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 05.18.57 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 05.18.59 Join pixelma_ [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 05.19.01 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 05.19.01 Join Topy44 [0] (~topy@f049113114.adsl.alicedsl.de) 05.21.18 Quit SynrG (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 05.21.23 Join SynrG [0] (~synrg@debian/developer/synrg) 05.25.15 Quit Topy44 (Remote host closed the connection) 05.31.58 Quit [7] (Disconnected by services) 05.32.04 Join TheSeven [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 05.34.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.37.33 Quit enthdegree (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 05.41.49 Quit anewuser (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 05.44.36 Join anewuser [0] (~anewuser@186.93.175.208) 05.44.36 Quit anewuser (Changing host) 05.44.36 Join anewuser [0] (~anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 06.10.28 Join Topy44 [0] (~topy@f049113114.adsl.alicedsl.de) 06.15.34 Quit mystica555 (Remote host closed the connection) 06.17.58 Join mystica555 [0] (~Mike@71-211-200-241.hlrn.qwest.net) 06.48.06 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FFD3C90.dip.t-dialin.net) 06.48.17 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 06.49.04 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 06.51.21 # It looks like the CustomWPS %if() is missing an ! It's missing in the Operator part. There are two ='s I think one should be != 06.51.50 Quit Rob2223 (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 06.53.27 Join bitcraft [0] (~bitcraft@173-20-20-92.client.mchsi.com) 06.54.55 # <[Saint]> KiwiCam: "==" is perfectly valid. 06.55.11 Quit anewuser (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 06.55.59 Join Rower85 [0] (husvagn@v-413-alfarv-90.bitnet.nu) 06.56.59 # Then it's missing another = 06.57.18 # Good to know == works though. 06.59.29 Quit curtism (Quit: Live Long and Prosper) 07.00.30 # <[Saint]> I'm not entirely sure what operators are valid, but, I meant that "==" is (or should be) a valid argument. 07.02.12 # <[Saint]> I'm pretty sure there's >=, <=, !=, >, <, and = for %if 07.02.46 # I assume that means "not equal to". Whatever it means, it's not in the WPS %if() logical comparison tag text. It states "operator is the comparison to do, any one of: =, =, >, >=, <, <= (when comparing against a string tag like %ia, only = and != work, and it is NOT case sensitive) " 07.03.56 # <[Saint]> I'll fix it up when I get home. 07.04.10 # <[Saint]> Going to run out of battery soon... 07.04.31 # Also, I think there's a bug. I can do this: %?bc<%?if(%bl,=,010)<%pL(01,02,6,1,image,AlienH06.bmp)|>|%?if(%bl,>=,010)<%pL(01,02,6,1,image,AlienH06.bmp)|>> but not this %?bc<%?if(%bl,>=,010)<%pL(01,02,6,1,image,AlienH06.bmp)|>|%?if(%bl,>=,010)<%pL(01,02,6,1,image,AlienH06.bmp)|>> The only difference is the > sign in the first %if comparison. 07.05.06 # <[Saint]> Pastebin, please, please use pastebin ;) 07.05.18 # OK. Next time. 07.09.12 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 07.10.51 # http://pastebin.com/upjDviAG Why not. 07.18.20 Join PaulJam [0] (~Paule@p54BEAEAC.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.22.10 Join qhorin [0] (d9e50bf4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.229.11.244) 07.24.01 Quit qhorin (Client Quit) 07.28.07 Join stoffel [0] (~quassel@pD9E42BB7.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.29.06 Nick kugel is now known as kugelp (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 07.30.22 # gevaerts: thanks for fixing. I thought the build farm was borked (and I was tired) do I went to bed 07.31.40 # so* 07.34.15 Quit PaulJam (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 07.34.56 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.37.33 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@101.98.158.103) 07.37.34 Quit [Saint] (Changing host) 07.37.34 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 07.39.46 Join qhorin [0] (~qhorin@p4FFF5E4B.dip.t-dialin.net) 07.41.01 # [Saint]: thanks for getting JdGordon to look at and fix the dynamic scrolling. much appreciated :) 07.51.32 # <[Saint]> qhorin: So, its working now...? 07.52.05 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng234.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 07.52.07 # <[Saint]> Also, no worries...not a problem at all. 07.54.30 # no idea, but building right now and will be testing shortly 07.56.18 # yup, working flawlessly :) 07.56.25 # <[Saint]> Awesome. 07.58.15 # hmm.. another thing that I noticed.. is it expected behavior, that the sleep timer menu does not have a context menu (e.g. for adding it to the quickmenu or shortcuts)? 07.58.42 # <[Saint]> I'm going to go with "probably not". 07.58.47 # also despite leaving the sleep timer menu with the "cancel" action, the sleep timer gets set anyway 07.59.07 # <[Saint]> Ok, *that* is a bug for sure. 07.59.30 # I'd guess the bug was introduced when the new sleep timer options were added 07.59.40 # <[Saint]> Do you mind lodging a bug against this issue on Flyspray, please? 07.59.56 # <[Saint]> http://www.rockbox.org/tracker 08.00.43 # sure thing. once I remember my account info from 2 years ago.. or maybe I will just re-register 08.02.40 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 08.10.28 Join antil33t| [0] (~Ahurhurr@101.98.150.103) 08.13.21 Quit antil33t (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 08.13.46 # what category would be suited best for the bug? UI or settings? 08.14.16 # sleep timer is not expected to have a shortcut context menu option 08.14.22 # that is not a bug 08.14.51 # cancelling the sleep timer does sounds like a bug though 08.15.06 # it has no context menu options at all, though 08.15.22 # It would be nice if it did have a shortcut. I go to sleep with that thing every night. 08.16.06 # yeah.. pretty annoying to have to go through all sub-menus to set a sleep timer when already half asleep 08.17.03 # BTW. This DebugWPS error goes with my code above: %?bc<...H06.bmp)|>|%?if(%bl,>=,010)<%pL(01,02,6,1,image,AlienH06.bmp)|>> ^ 'Expected list close' Here 08.21.17 # so I am still a bit confused - should the sleep timer menu not have a context menu at all, or should it have a context menu but without the shortcut option? 08.22.04 # not at all 08.24.31 Join nosa [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-26-72.clt.bellsouth.net) 08.25.53 # okay. would this be a valid feature request? given that basically all other (and imho many far less useful for quick access) menu options have said context menu and rockbox strives for consistency or has this been discussed and rejected before? 08.26.08 Quit nosa-j (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 08.26.08 Nick nosa is now known as nosa-j (~m00k@adsl-74-235-26-72.clt.bellsouth.net) 08.28.30 # qhorin: I don't think anyone here actually sleeps. 08.28.34 # we dont take feature reqeusts 08.28.51 # KiwiCam: lol :) 08.29.15 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 08.29.15 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 08.29.15 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 08.30.47 # JdGordon: would it be a valid discussion subject, or has it been discussed and shot down before? I would not want to unneccesarily clutter the board or step on any toes.. 08.32.19 # there is nothing to discuss... someone just has to add the required code to make it work 08.34.45 Nick kugelp is now known as kugel (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 08.34.45 # understood 08.36.48 Join ender` [0] (~ender@foo.eternallybored.org) 08.39.25 Nick kugel is now known as kugelp (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 08.39.25 Nick kugelp is now known as kugel (~kugel@rockbox/developer/kugel) 09.02.59 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 09.03.26 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 09.10.20 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 09.12.13 # <[Saint]> KiwiCam: You're not really too good at this conditional thing are you? ;) "%?bc<...H06.bmp)|%?if(%bl,>=,010)<%pL(01,02,6,1,image,AlienH06.bmp)>>" 09.13.45 Join antil33t [0] (~Ahurhurr@101.98.150.103) 09.14.28 # <[Saint]> I assume you trimmed "...H06.bmp)" (for some reason)...if you didn't, then, you'll have to look at that, too...because if that wasn't trimmed at all, there's no way its valid. 09.16.12 # <[Saint]> Just so I know...can you see now where you messed up? 09.16.38 Quit antil33t| (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 09.16.45 # <[Saint]> "%?bc<...H06.bmp)|%?if(%bl,>=,010)<%pL(01,02,6,1,image,AlienH06.bmp)>>" <-- correct 09.17.21 # <[Saint]> "%?bc<...H06.bmp)|>|%?if(%bl,>=,010)<%pL(01,02,6,1,image,AlienH06.bmp)|>>" <-- incorrect and needless sections bolded 09.19.23 # <[Saint]> An easy way to tell if you've messed up a condition is if you have an odd number of condition brackets, you must always have as many <'s as you have >'s else you've left a condition open. 09.19.54 Quit bitcraft (Remote host closed the connection) 09.20.10 # I'm the worst at these. The trimming was all debugwps. This is the line I was using %?bc<%?if(%bl,>=,010)<%pL(01,02,6,1,image,AlienH06.bmp)>|%?if(%bl,>=,010)<%pL(01,02,6,1,image,AlienH06.bmp)|>> 09.21.45 # So, it's me. That's OK then. I'll keep working at it. 09.23.01 Quit Scromple (Quit: Leaving) 09.23.17 # <[Saint]> "%?bc<%?if(%bl,>=,010)<%pL(01,02,6,1,image,AlienH06.bmp)>|%?if(%bl,>=,010)<%pL(01,02,6,1,image,AlienH06.bmp)>>" 09.23.39 Quit einhirn (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 09.24.58 # Thanks. BUt, that won't work for me either. If I take out the > sign, it does. 09.25.13 # In the first %bl 09.25.42 # <[Saint]> Hmmmm...that's, odd. 09.25.55 # I've struck this a few times. 09.29.47 # <[Saint]> I'm curious as to why you prepend a 0 to some vales (x/y), but not others? 09.30.28 # Just to keep things lined up. It's easier for me that way. 09.30.30 # <[Saint]> I'm willing to bet that's confusing things somewhat. 09.31.20 # I could use spaces. 09.32.42 # With or without the extra padding, I still get the same debugwps truncated error. 09.34.28 # <[Saint]> Isn't your peak meter bar ....um, backwards? 09.34.37 # the parser apparently doesnt liek >= which is fair enough 09.34.39 # need to fx it 09.34.48 # use %>= 09.35.00 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 09.35.21 # [Saint]: No. The PB is all good. 09.35.25 # <[Saint]> Isn't it supposed to be %XX(x,y,width,height,filename,option(s)) 09.35.50 # <[Saint]> as opposed to %XX(x,y,width,height,option(s),filename) 09.36.31 # [Saint]: filename in his example is the second part of the imagae param iirc 09.37.13 # Perhaps I'm missunderstanding the Wiki? It works that way. I always put the actual filename after image. 09.37.34 # same goes for slider, I think. God, I love those things :) 09.37.40 # <[Saint]> the wiki certainly seems to agree with me... 09.37.50 # <[Saint]> quoted directly: "%XX(x, y, width, height, filename, [options])" 09.38.06 # You couldn't have changed it that fast ;) 09.38.19 # <[Saint]> check the edit time. 09.39.13 # I read that as to maintain backward compatibility. 09.39.31 # <[Saint]> "image Specify the image to use to draw the bar. The next param must be the filename of the image or the loaded image's label. If this option is not used a default image will be drawn instead." 09.40.26 # Yes. Straight after Image. 09.40.46 # <[Saint]> but then its missing a param. 09.41.01 # By default, does that mean %lxl ??? 09.41.09 # s/b %xl 09.41.39 # <[Saint]> What are you talking about? 09.41.41 # Like what for example? 09.42.07 # Right. Forget that. Tangent. 09.42.42 # Give me a minute to read this... 09.42.57 # <[Saint]> JdGordon: What actually happens there...neither the wiki nor the manual is clear on what happens when you specify "image" as an option. 09.43.23 # <[Saint]> Are you supposed to neglect "filename", eacape it with "-"...? 09.44.32 # The way I read that is IMAGE use the param image, followed by the filename, unless maintaining backward compatibility. 09.45.12 # <[Saint]> What are you on about backward compatibility? there's really no such thing. 09.45.19 # then another param, say Slider,A where a is an %xl ref. 09.46.06 # <[Saint]> I'm aware of this...you're missing the point I'm afraid. 09.46.07 # Maybe it's been updated since I printed this? I'll chekc the site. 09.46.31 # <[Saint]> the entire "image" param is totally useless as far as I can tell. 09.47.35 # <[Saint]> specifying the filename directly, as in: "%XX(x, y, width, height, filename)" should be exactly the same. 09.48.58 # I understood the old way was x,y,w,h,filename,options. 09.49.32 # <[Saint]> there's no "old way", there's no "backward compatibility"... 09.49.42 # <[Saint]> there's "the way its done", and that's all. 09.50.36 Join mortalis [0] (~mortalis@77.108.98.176) 09.50.42 # That's the way it reads. "To maintain backward compatibility a filename can be given as the first option instead of using the 'image, ' tuple" So, my assumption is that I use something like this: %?mv(1.0)<%t(0.3)%pv(0,0,-,19,-,slider,J,nobar);%t(0.3)%pv(0,0,-,19,-,slider,K,nobar);%t(0.3)%pv(0,0,-,19,-,slider,L,nobar);%t(0.3)%pv(0,0,-,19,-,slider,M,nofill,nobar);%t(0.3)%pv(0,0,-,19,-,slider,N,nobar)|%t(0.3)%pb(0,0,-,19,-,slider,A,nobar);%t(0.4)%pb(0,0,- 09.50.42 # ,19,-,slider,B,nobar);%t(0.4)%pb(0,0,-,19,-,slider,C,nobar);%t(0.4)%pb(0,0,-,19,-,slider,D,nobar);%t(0.4)%pb(0,0,-,19,-,slider,E,nobar)> 09.50.47 # It works. 09.51.18 # I happy either way. 09.51.54 # Oh. Sorry. That's not a good example. 09.54.01 # <[Saint]> I can't for the life of me understand why the "image" param was added... 09.55.12 # So, instead of: %pL(01,02,6,1,AlienH06.bmp) I use %pL(01,02,6,1,,AlienH06.bmp) 09.55.26 # Forget the coma. 09.55.37 # Jesus. 09.55.46 # %pL(01,02,6,1,image,AlienH06.bmp) 09.56.04 # <[Saint]> right, my point is, there's no reason to do so... ;) 09.56.17 # <[Saint]> I can't understand why there's two ways to do the exact same thing. 09.56.54 # So that's great. Less work for me, after I fix everything up ;) 09.57.29 # Thanks for pointing that out. So, what about the other one? The > 09.57.38 # Sorry. 09.57.42 # %>= 09.59.19 # <[Saint]> %XX(x, y, width, height, image, ident/filename) is the "better" way to do this...I can't understand why the old "%XX(x, y, width, height, filename) was kept...normally there's no issue with breaking themes in this way, if theme authors don't update, too bad. 10.01.31 # So, I can keep the "better" way? At least I've saved myself some work in the short term :) They're my themes, so I don't care about backwards compatibility. 10.01.41 # I also really would like a way to move a PB within a viewport. 10.02.14 # <[Saint]> The only way to do that would be multiple conditional viewports. 10.02.24 # Strike that. The actual viewport. 10.03.06 # <[Saint]> A way to move a viewport == multiple conditional viewports :) 10.03.31 # <[Saint]> though I admit, that's rather painful to code. 10.03.55 # I was just thinking about the skinning issue that was solved. 10.04.01 # It would be a lot easier. 10.04.47 # s/b were. It would be pretty cold to be able to move viewports. I have some good ideas. 10.06.10 # LOL. My hands are so detached from my mind tonight. 10.06.21 # <[Saint]> Hmmm...I understand now why there's two ways to achieve exactly the same thing with the bar tag code, but the wiki and manual makes it *very* non-obvious (and actually directly misleading) about the correct syntax to be used. 10.08.12 Quit n17ikh (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 10.08.39 Join n17ikh [0] (~peter@c-174-56-150-44.hsd1.sc.comcast.net) 10.11.12 # >? 10.11.32 # Ignore. 10.11.44 # I'll change that now. 10.13.50 # Oh Yes! Come to Papa! I can't wait to try it on the Clip... 10.15.18 Quit n17ikh (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 10.16.32 Quit AlexP_ (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 10.16.53 Join n17ikh [0] (~peter@c-174-56-150-44.hsd1.sc.comcast.net) 10.38.49 Join XavierGr [0] (~xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 10.51.02 Quit qhorin (Quit: Leaving.) 10.53.29 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 10.54.07 # [Saint]: gevaerts: apart from the speeling, how did the skin guide read? 10.54.50 # JdGordon: I didn't read through it properly yet. I'll do that soon 10.55.10 # well, no real point till its finished :)( 10.55.11 # <[Saint]> It wasn't /awful/...there's a few technical points I disagree with (some strongly), but, it reads fine. 10.55.33 # can i guess? long viewport label names? 10.55.40 # <[Saint]> No no. 11.11.22 # Zagor: is there any news on commit emails? 11.11.56 # gevaerts: ahhh, no 11.35.03 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.43.47 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 11.48.23 Quit perrikwp (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) 11.48.47 Join perrikwp [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 11.51.58 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~LemonBoy@ppp-131-36.26-151.libero.it) 12.00.22 Join amithkk [0] (u4289@2buntu/writers/amithkk) 12.13.51 Quit Rob2222 (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 12.26.37 Join jlbiasini [0] (~metaphys@d86-32-96-55.cust.tele2.at) 12.28.10 Part jlbiasini 12.31.28 Join Rob2222 [0] (~Miranda@p4FFD305D.dip.t-dialin.net) 13.13.47 Join anewuser [0] (~anewuser@186.93.175.208) 13.13.47 Quit anewuser (Changing host) 13.13.47 Join anewuser [0] (~anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 13.35.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.52.28 Join Topy44_ [0] (~topy@f048032108.adsl.alicedsl.de) 13.53.19 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 13.56.18 Quit Topy44 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 14.25.46 Quit Synergist (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.28.40 Join Synergist [0] (~synfn@unaffiliated/synergist) 14.43.39 # Commit b2202a3 in rockbox by 03Jonathan Gordon: skin_engine: Allow negative numbers for the start offset in %ss 14.44.15 # gevaerts: ^ 14.44.34 # Bah, you beat me to it! (I forgot...) 14.44.48 # Apart from that, nice 14.45.54 # b2202a3 build result: All green 14.53.32 Quit [Saint] (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.54.46 # who do i get to grumble at about the sleep timer setting? 14.55.50 # JdGordon: I knew it was trivial, but I hadn't guessed it was *that* trivial :) 14.57.12 # it is probably a bug in the parser that negative numbers are generally accepted as numbers 14.57.48 # I propose not to fix that then 15.02.56 Quit XavierGr () 15.03.31 # * JdGordon thinks the way the sleep time settings are implemented is just bloody broken 15.03.58 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-175-223.student.uu.se) 15.03.58 Quit n1s (Changing host) 15.03.58 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 15.07.34 Join XavierGr [0] (~xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 15.10.07 Quit n1s (Read error: Operation timed out) 15.35.07 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.36.46 # does TeX need anything special for a - to be displayed? 15.41.08 # * JdGordon pushes #g199 to gerrit and waits a day or two for comments 15.41.14 # g#199 15.41.15 # 3Gerrit review #199 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#change,199 : quickscreen: optionally display the shortcuts menu instead of the QS by Jonathan Gordon (changes/99/199/1) 15.45.59 # Commit 1d5a505 in rockbox by 03Jonathan Gordon: shortcuts: Don't enter shortcuts menu if there are none 15.48.01 # 1d5a505 build result: 0 errors, 2 warnings (Jonathan Gordon committed) 15.51.02 Nick flaushy_ is now known as flaushy (~nooon@p5798D4D4.dip.t-dialin.net) 15.54.13 Quit qnm (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 15.55.05 Join qnm [0] (~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a) 16.02.17 Part Zagor 16.07.10 Quit ruskie (Excess Flood) 16.10.14 Join enthdegree [0] (~BitchX@unaffiliated/enthdegree) 16.23.12 Quit nosa-j (Excess Flood) 16.27.01 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-26-72.clt.bellsouth.net) 16.29.46 Join ruskie [0] (ruskie@sourcemage/mage/ruskie) 16.29.57 Quit Topy44_ (Remote host closed the connection) 16.32.25 Quit nosa-j (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 16.37.14 Join T44 [0] (~Topy44@f048032108.adsl.alicedsl.de) 16.37.15 Join Topy44 [0] (~Topy44@f048032108.adsl.alicedsl.de) 16.37.44 Quit XavierGr (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 16.38.00 Join PaulJam [0] (~Paule@p54BED0B7.dip.t-dialin.net) 16.38.58 Quit T44 (Client Quit) 16.40.38 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-175-223.student.uu.se) 16.40.39 Quit n1s (Changing host) 16.40.39 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 16.42.11 Join XavierGr [0] (~xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 16.42.26 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-26-72.clt.bellsouth.net) 16.43.49 Quit nosa-j (Excess Flood) 16.45.37 Quit PaulJam (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 16.47.24 Quit XavierGr (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 16.55.23 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-26-72.clt.bellsouth.net) 16.59.41 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 17.06.21 Join einhirn [0] (~Miranda@bsod.rz.tu-clausthal.de) 17.08.17 # gevaerts: i figured out usb reboot, it needs the storage driver for some reason 17.08.46 # reboot is attempted once exclusive storage access is confirmed iiuc 17.14.45 # That makes sense, yes 17.21.36 # needing the storage driver, so we can reboot to OF because we can 17.21.43 # not use that storage driver? 17.22.24 Join PaulJam [0] (~Paule@p54BEBF21.dip.t-dialin.net) 17.22.26 # Well, the logic is that you don't do USB if not everything can handle it 17.25.13 Quit nosa-j (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 17.26.40 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-26-72.clt.bellsouth.net) 17.27.42 Quit nosa-j (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.28.59 # ? 17.31.48 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 17.32.01 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-26-72.clt.bellsouth.net) 17.34.15 # Actually, I'm not entirely sure you *need* storage 17.34.24 # But you need to unmount stuff 17.35.09 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.41.39 Quit nosa-j (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.42.32 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 17.44.57 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-26-72.clt.bellsouth.net) 17.45.01 Quit nosa-j (Excess Flood) 17.45.26 # gevaerts: usb.c:380 17.46.07 # usb_slave_mode is called from usb_handle_connected_ack 17.46.17 # funman: "exclusive storage access" isn't something that requires storage. It's a mechanism to tell all other threads to back off 17.46.31 # yeah but in practice it means "storage driver" 17.47.01 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-26-72.clt.bellsouth.net) 17.47.01 # How so? 17.47.51 # usbstack/usb_core.c:202 17.48.29 # That's still not touching the storage driver 17.48.33 # ? 17.48.51 # i mean USB storage driver, not ata/nand/whatever 17.49.02 # Right 17.50.26 Part flaushy ("#rockbox-community byebye :)") 17.51.17 # OK, I see what's going on now 17.52.09 # So yes, it seems we can't really handle rebooting for usb without USB_STORAGE compiled in, which means we need a reasonably complete stubbed USB driver 17.53.59 # Which, given the way USB_ENABLE_STORAGE is defined in config.h is buggy 17.54.02 # no real need for a stubbed driver 17.54.47 # Well, in your case you have a driver 17.55.00 # The fact that it doesn't work well isn't too important for this case 18.14.23 Quit nosa-j (Excess Flood) 18.16.38 # ?? 18.17.04 # afaiu only usb_detect() is needed, not the rest 18.18.26 # You need more for linking usb_storage.c, which you don't actually need except for needing USB_ENABLE_STORAGE to decide you actually want to reboot 18.20.14 # ah ok 18.20.31 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-26-72.clt.bellsouth.net) 18.20.46 # anyway system_reboot() doesn't reboot 18.20.55 # I'd say that needs to be fixed, but for 3.11 explicitely setting USB_ENABLE_STORAGE is probably the better option 18.21.19 # g#181 iirc 18.21.20 # 3Gerrit review #181 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#change,181 : Nano2g: reboot to OF (disk mode) on USB plug by Rafaël Carré (changes/81/181/4) 18.23.12 # funman: doesn't the config.h change int there break AS3525v2? 18.23.55 # possibly, i didn't really care about breaking other stuff 18.24.05 # Ah, ok 18.24.22 # it'll need looking when we have something working on nano though 18.24.45 # So as soon as it actually works it needs proper merging 18.37.04 Join WalkGood [0] (~4@unaffiliated/walkgood) 18.49.05 Quit ruskie (Excess Flood) 18.53.46 Join ruskie [0] (ruskie@sourcemage/mage/ruskie) 18.56.49 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 18.56.50 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 18.56.50 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 19.10.59 Quit tmzt_ (Remote host closed the connection) 19.15.32 Part WalkGood 19.24.17 Quit fs-bluebot (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.26.01 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 19.27.16 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@e178186188.adsl.alicedsl.de) 19.27.29 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g224239048.adsl.alicedsl.de) 19.32.30 Quit enthdegree (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 19.35.10 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.35.18 Join martii [0] (~martii@212.33.90.253) 19.36.38 Join MethoS- [0] (~clemens@134.102.106.250) 19.37.55 Join leavittx [0] (~leavittx@89.221.199.187) 19.39.55 Quit martii (Read error: Operation timed out) 19.42.16 Quit nosa-j (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.42.57 Join martii [0] (~martii@212.33.90.253) 19.46.31 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-26-72.clt.bellsouth.net) 19.47.44 Quit PaulJam (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 19.51.23 Quit nosa-j (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 19.53.14 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-26-72.clt.bellsouth.net) 19.53.17 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 19.55.39 Join fyrestorm [0] (~nnscript@cpe-68-173-235-85.nyc.res.rr.com) 19.55.41 Quit fyre^OS (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.55.47 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: WeeChat 0.3.7) 19.57.45 Join matthewrohaly [0] (~matthewro@199.235.123.96) 19.58.07 Quit matthewrohaly (Client Quit) 19.58.30 Join MathieuRohaly [0] (~matthewro@199.235.123.96) 19.58.52 # Hello 19.59.38 # hello 20.00.51 # I was wondering if someone could please add me to the WikiUsersGroup 20.01.14 # I saw a few typos on the FuzePlus wiki and would like to correct them 20.03.23 Join enthdegree [0] (~BitchX@unaffiliated/enthdegree) 20.05.07 # anyone? 20.05.52 Quit nosa-j (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 20.06.43 # MathieuRohaly: someone seems to be on it 20.06.51 # Oh, sorry. I wasn't sure 20.07.50 # MathieuRohaly: done 20.08.13 # Thank you very much 20.09.40 # Sorry, but I need help again 20.10.01 # I registered all fine, but when I login it didn't like my password 20.10.33 # so I went to the password reset page, and it says that my account has no e-mail address accosiated with it 20.10.40 # what can I do? 20.11.43 # Send an email to the address listed near the bottom of http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/UserRegistration 20.12.08 # Most of us here can give write access, but only a few people can actually do much more 20.12.31 # Alright. Thanks 20.13.07 # MathieuRohaly: try http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/System/ChangeEmailAddress 20.13.44 # ah, you can't login 20.14.39 # Right 20.17.10 Join bitcraft [0] (~bitcraft@66.254.199.148) 20.17.25 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@p5494749B.dip.t-dialin.net) 20.17.25 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 20.17.25 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 20.18.53 # Alright, I'm off. Thank you for the help 20.19.05 Quit MathieuRohaly () 20.22.19 Join XavierGr [0] (~xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 20.31.31 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-26-72.clt.bellsouth.net) 20.42.02 Quit andap (Read error: Operation timed out) 20.44.44 Join andap [0] (~adnap@rrcs-108-178-116-127.sw.biz.rr.com) 20.54.11 # woot, hi 20.55.12 # read recently that there were no users of sansa c250 that would comment on new development on that specific target 20.55.31 # i'm available for test on it just to let you know 20.55.40 # c200v2? 20.55.43 # v1 20.56.59 # The issues are mainly with the v2. A fair amount of developers have v1s 20.57.08 # alright 20.58.29 Quit nosa-j (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 21.00.02 Join nosa-j [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-26-72.clt.bellsouth.net) 21.00.30 # anyone around that can do something about the theme server issue FS#12620? 21.00.31 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12620 3Site doesn't allow to download Themes through Rockbox Utility (bugs, unconfirmed) 21.07.55 Quit XavierGr (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 21.09.57 Join XavierGr [0] (~xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 21.16.45 # CIA-44: Could you please provide an example of how this negative number offset in %ss could be used? 21.19.51 # KiwiCam: Who are you trying to ask that question to? 21.20.20 Quit mortalis (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 21.21.24 Quit nosa-j (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 21.22.00 # Sorry. I realised now that is was JdGordon: that did the commit. Jd? 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