--- Log for 17.04.112 Server: gibson.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 15 days and 22 hours ago 00.01.36 Quit FOAD (Client Quit) 00.04.57 Join FOAD [0] (~foad@83.161.135.61) 00.04.57 Quit FOAD (Changing host) 00.04.57 Join FOAD [0] (~foad@unaffiliated/foad) 00.06.28 Quit FOAD (Client Quit) 00.06.38 Quit Slydel (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 00.10.35 Nick scorche` is now known as scorche (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 00.15.12 # <[Saint]> Misanthropos: any visual indication of a running sleep timer would be entirely theme-dependant. 00.15.30 # <[Saint]> I know cabbie certainly doesn't have one. 00.20.08 Quit lebellium (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 12.0/20120411064248]) 00.22.49 # [Saint], i meant something like the dice for shuffle ... just wanted to know if there is anything symbol for the sleep timer 00.23.01 # but i guess there is none (yet) 00.23.48 # <[Saint]> There probably wont be, either. 00.24.23 # <[Saint]> Unless someone gets the incentive to tweak the statusbar iconset. 00.25.15 Join FOAD [0] (~foad@83.161.135.61) 00.25.15 Quit FOAD (Changing host) 00.25.15 Join FOAD [0] (~foad@unaffiliated/foad) 00.27.07 Join dhrasmus [0] (~dhrasmus@216.99.208.34) 00.33.27 Quit factor (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 00.58.30 Quit pamaury (Remote host closed the connection) 01.00.05 Join nosa [0] (~m00k@adsl-74-235-79-71.clt.bellsouth.net) 01.00.16 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 01.02.30 Quit nosa-j (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 01.02.31 Nick nosa is now known as nosa-j (~m00k@adsl-74-235-79-71.clt.bellsouth.net) 01.10.07 # <[Saint]> Misanthropos: for what its worth, it would be rather trivial for you to add this yourself if you desire it. 01.10.38 # <[Saint]> I could look into it, it sounds mildly useful, but it wouldn't be today. 01.11.55 # <[Saint]> And if I did so, it would only be for cabbie or themes using the built-in status-bar. 01.12.27 # <[Saint]> Other themes can do what they wish, there's no consistency required. 01.17.53 Quit Guest22337 (Quit: Konversation terminated!) 01.20.39 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 01.25.00 Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.25.47 Quit dhrasmus (Quit: Leaving) 01.28.40 # [Saint], i did add a sleep timer to the wps and I use just "zZz %bs", the idea was to have a little symbol instead of zZz 01.29.28 # i agree the usage of an icon itself is mildly useful 01.29.58 # <[Saint]> I can certainly add it, but I'm rather busy today. 01.30.23 # <[Saint]> And as I said it would only be for themes using the built-in status-bar. 01.30.34 # right - i see 01.30.51 # where would you place that icon? in icons? or is it a font? 01.31.17 # or is it rather defined by the theme? 01.31.48 # <[Saint]> It would live in the bitmapstrip for icons in the built-in status-bar source. 01.31.57 # <[Saint]> Which is essentially a theme 01.32.56 Join factor [0] (~factor@r74-193-21-187.cnrocmta01.conrtx.tl.dh.suddenlink.net) 01.36.23 # ok - i will have a look there then 01.36.28 # thank you 01.38.59 Quit perrikwp (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 01.45.22 Join perrikwp [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 01.47.58 Join diginet [0] (~diginet@adsl-69-153-135-2.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) 01.54.20 Quit prof_wolfff (Ping timeout: 276 seconds) 02.10.11 Quit Misanthropos (Quit: Verlassend) 02.11.01 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.55=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 02.19.16 Join enthdegree [0] (~enthdegre@wikimedia/enthdegree) 02.46.49 # http://www.mentor.com/embedded-software/sourcery-tools/sourcery-codebench/evaluations/arm-gnulinux# target device selection shows 4 AMS SoCs 02.46.54 # including as3525A and as3525B 02.52.31 # http://rockbox.haxx.se/irc/log-20081216#20:06:48 as3525b is not a novelty though 02.55.20 Quit RandomTime (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 03.20.41 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 03.55.41 Join shamus [0] (~shamus@ip-206-192-195-49.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 03.55.42 # <[Saint]> What criteria decides who gets a rockbox icon prepended to their nick in the Rockbox irc logs? 03.56.32 # omg the new build of rockbox is sweet i cant belive that I will never have to see the darn "databae refresh" again on my clip + you go guys 03.56.38 # <[Saint]> My assumption is "has a Rockbox staff" hostmask? 03.57.00 Join saratoga [0] (98032941@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.41.65) 03.57.39 # funman: the datasheet we have from AMS is for both the A and B version, the difference is just the pinout and memory controller IIRC 03.59.04 # <[Saint]> shamus: indeed. it has been possible to enable USB on these devices for quite some time, but it was only recently applied to all AMSv2 devices. 03.59.26 # <[Saint]> Its still not guaranteed to work in all cases, though. 04.00.33 # right and rember to update the bootloader when updating rockbox 04.00.52 # i assume the log script has a list of rockbox committers and is using that 04.01.12 # [Saint]: aaah alright 04.01.43 # [Saint]: probably a whitelist 04.02.46 # * [Saint] wants a fancy icon. 04.02.55 # one thing i have wondered for a while but never asked has anyone tried porting rockbox to the neuros dac (digital audio computer)? 04.03.14 # <[Saint]> If Llorean gets one...I should be able to too! ;p 04.03.34 # have an 80 gig one lieing around that have been collectign dust 04.03.36 # <[Saint]> shamus: probably not. 04.03.36 # search and see if anyone has 04.03.42 # not sure it's specs 04.04.31 Join blackmatrix_ny [0] (~blackmatr@cpe-68-174-118-180.nyc.res.rr.com) 04.04.40 # <[Saint]> there's a lot of Rockbox that isn't device specific, but someone still needs access to the target in question, and the incentive to do so. 04.05.09 # <[Saint]> Even for an experienced developer, a new port is many hundreds of hours work. 04.05.12 # [Saint]: probably ask zagor 04.05.22 # work, and frustration 04.05.28 # right but if i recall the dac is mostly dsp based 04.06.03 # <[Saint]> shamus: at this point, he ideal person to do he work is you yourself. 04.06.18 # <[Saint]> This likely won't change. ;) 04.06.51 # <[Saint]> *do the work 04.07.47 # yea im cluses about the internals of the thingy but i rember the big woop back in the day about it beign a fully opensource device but seams neuros is buarign it in the drawas of long fogoten devices 04.08.14 # shamus: well neuros runs linux do not they? 04.08.31 # think thats what they clamed at tien time 04.08.33 # oh there was a portable player sorry, i m confused with the TV box 04.08.38 # know the osd dose 04.08.54 # <[Saint]> If the firmware is indeed open source, then you've got a great advantage. 04.09.03 # OSD is an arm board with linux indeed 04.11.05 # the dac III never saw the light of day 04.11.39 # <[Saint]> The "NewPorts" wiki page is probably a good read for you. 04.12.09 # <[Saint]> It outlines the bare minimum steps required to get a new port off he ground. 04.12.31 # <[Saint]> *off the ground 04.14.55 # bummer it is completely DSP-based 04.15.04 # http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/TargetStatus 04.20.27 # looks like the sorces for the firmware have gone belly up as well. 04.21.29 Quit ved (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 04.22.45 # <[Saint]> You could still get them upon request. 04.24.42 # true but given the lack for a cpu on the system it would probably be surprisingly difficult to build for it. 04.26.00 # i think ti did eventually provide a compiler for their dsp system 04.26.44 # i don't know how suitable the hardware is though, you'll want a 32 bit system for rockbox 04.26.58 # http://open.neurosaudio.com/archives/2004/12/why_neuros_is_r.html 04.27.09 Quit TheSeven (Disconnected by services) 04.27.18 Join [7] [0] (~quassel@rockbox/developer/TheSeven) 04.34.41 # im thinking it's just to old and slow 04.36.44 Quit enthdegree (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 04.37.55 Join enthdegree [0] (~enthdegre@cpe-174-099-054-167.nc.res.rr.com) 04.37.58 Join ved [0] (~ved@2001:41d0:1:5914::2) 04.38.06 Quit enthdegree (Changing host) 04.38.06 Join enthdegree [0] (~enthdegre@wikimedia/enthdegree) 04.38.54 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 04.38.56 Join amiconn_ [0] (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.39.00 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 04.39.12 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 04.39.13 Join pixelma_ [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.39.33 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 04.42.05 # im thinking the key reasion oneone has done a rockbox port to the Neuros Digital Audio Computer II is the simple fact that it's a bulky unpderpowerd device that is a brick 04.42.17 # no one 04.43.22 # i still cant belive how fast time flys i rember it like yesterday getting that monster for the time it was a sweet device. 04.57.57 Quit saratoga (Quit: Page closed) 05.08.08 # hum looks like it's runnign a TLV320AIC23GQE 05.09.50 # and a TMS320DA150 05.09.50 # EJ004A2 for the dsp board 05.11.05 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 05.15.22 # looks like the TMS320DA150 DSP is a 16-bit fixed-point dsp 05.20.03 Join saratoga [0] (98032941@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.41.65) 05.20.43 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 05.30.36 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@p5DD57D68.dip.t-dialin.net) 05.30.37 Quit Horscht (Changing host) 05.30.37 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 05.35.44 # found the firmware sources as well http://neuros-firmware.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/neuros-firmware/neuros-firmware/ 05.35.53 # wow they havbe not been tuched in 7 years 05.35.57 # dam time flys 05.36.16 # i know nerochiaro 05.36.17 Quit ved (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 05.36.27 # he ported some of our codecs to some open neuros platform a while back 05.37.12 # yea the osd and the newer enruos stuff is much more frendly 05.37.21 # the old dac II is a bitch 05.37.35 # dam ti dps hell 05.38.35 # http://web.archive.org/web/20080819214147/http://neuros-firmware.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/view/Main/HowtoCompile 05.40.45 Quit Horscht (Quit: Verlassend) 05.54.46 Join ved [0] (~ved@2001:41d0:1:5914::2) 06.21.42 Quit enthdegree (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 06.36.23 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 06.53.18 # saratoga: i think nerochiaro left neuros for fluendo a while ago 06.53.42 # ah ok 06.53.45 # was many years ago anyway 06.54.54 # yea the years just fly by 06.56.41 # im sure somone somewhere is still working on neuros products but odds are it's not the old DAC. odd are there workign on the osd or some other flashy video gadgit thingy 06.57.04 # neuros long ago abandoned there high quality audio devices 06.58.39 # http://wiki.neurostechnology.com/index.php/Open_Source_Projects 06.59.30 # * funman suggests moving neuros topic on #rockbox-community 07.00.16 # thir's a comunity room? 07.01.03 # yes, we try to keep #rockbox on topic only (it makes it easier to read logs and to translate from english) 07.01.24 # oh good point 07.05.31 Join perrikwp_ [0] (~quassel@cpe-024-163-024-033.triad.res.rr.com) 07.07.41 Quit jm (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 07.07.42 Quit perrikwp (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 07.07.54 Join jm [0] (jm@epicsol.org) 07.20.46 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.23.13 # anyone working on any cool or unique new demos or apps for rockbox? 07.23.28 # have not seen a new app in a while 07.25.39 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 07.30.01 Quit blackmatrix_ny (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 07.31.13 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 07.52.11 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 08.01.25 Join Rower85 [0] (husvagn@v-413-alfarv-90.bitnet.nu) 08.02.40 Join kuldeepdhaka [0] (75feda90@gateway/web/freenode/ip.117.254.218.144) 08.03.49 # 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can someone ban antil33t please 12.45.22 # oh, yeah 12.45.22 # one mo 12.45.28 Mode "#rockbox +o Torne" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 12.45.41 Mode "#rockbox +b *!~Ahurhurr@101.98.*$##fix_your_connection" by Torne (~torne@rockbox/developer/Torne) 12.45.41 Warn Banlist contains 20 bans! 12.46.29 # i'm guessing we don't need any of the other bans in that list, tbh 12.46.32 # they are hundreds of days old 12.48.24 Mode "#rockbox -bbbb *!51d290c6@* *!*@190.22.57.232 *!*dr3000@* *!*Sean@unaffiliated/thesarge" by Torne (~torne@rockbox/developer/Torne) 12.48.24 Mode "#rockbox -bbbb *!*6c0eb1b7@*.108.14.177.183 *!*@121.186.209.71 *!*@95-42-107-164.btc-net.bg *!*@bzq-79-180-18-85.red.bezeqint.net" by Torne (~torne@rockbox/developer/Torne) 12.48.27 Mode "#rockbox -bb *!*@rrcs-97-77-51-170.sw.biz.rr.com *!*0c9f3043@*" by Torne (~torne@rockbox/developer/Torne) 12.48.34 Mode "#rockbox -bbbb *!*4b308342@* *!*bobo@d36-140-49.home1.cgocable.net *!*clemens@*.ewe-ip-backbone.de *!*jonath*@*.x.pppool.de" by Torne (~torne@rockbox/developer/Torne) 12.48.37 Mode "#rockbox -bbbb *!*Sajber@*.tbcn.telia.com *!54a0c8a7@* *!50993c69@* *!*da107b9b@*" by Torne (~torne@rockbox/developer/Torne) 12.48.39 Mode "#rockbox -b *!*d054895b@*.haxx.se" by Torne (~torne@rockbox/developer/Torne) 12.48.45 # okay that's tidier. 12.49.33 # tjhose names 12.49.39 # oops 12.52.13 Quit antil33t (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 12.53.09 Mode "#rockbox -o Torne" by Torne (~torne@rockbox/developer/Torne) 12.55.29 Part XavierGr 13.00.25 Join dfkt [0] (dfkt@unaffiliated/dfkt) 13.20.21 Part TomColler 13.20.40 Join TomColler [0] (~thomas@net-93-144-188-128.cust.dsl.teletu.it) 13.20.49 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.37.58 Quit bitcraft (Remote host closed the connection) 13.49.37 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 13.55.16 # Zagor: ping 13.55.43 # pong 13.56.36 # I would like to bump the required android sdk to 4.0.3 13.57.29 # kugel: that's just the build requirements, right? 13.57.35 # yes 13.58.19 # I have no objections 13.59.13 # That means adding an a new toolchain to the build system I guess 14.01.32 # technically, yes. but there are only three clients that build android so pragmatically we don't have to do a formal upgrade 14.01.47 # (me, kugel & amiconn) 14.02.23 # I think we should. The current one is called android30, using that to mean android403 is confusing 14.02.47 # it should have the api level, not android version, too 14.03.13 # gevaerts: fair enough 14.03.52 # http://gerrit.rockbox.org/215 for the client I think 14.04.23 # kugel: for the current one we use "android30" as the name, which checks for API level 11 14.04.32 # i know 14.04.54 # there is also some warning which would be nice to be fixed 14.05.09 # We could use android15 now too I guess, instead of android403 (which I used in my attempt) 14.05.27 # I don't mind either way 14.05.44 # well, then we should remove the android30 check too, or we run into problems in the far future :) 14.07.05 # Probably, yes 14.23.44 # gevaerts: will you do it? 14.24.49 # kugel: if you want it fast, it's better if you do it 14.25.25 Join Topy44 [0] (Topy44@f049013148.adsl.alicedsl.de) 14.26.27 # ok 14.28.48 Quit Topy (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 14.29.09 # i would suggest you use the actual sdk+ndk versions, not the api level 14.32.43 # the SDK and NDK get released independantly of there being a new API, and at least hte NDK has fixes that affect compilation sometimes :) 14.35.44 # agreed, sdk version is better than android version 14.36.36 # Torne: disagreed. the installed sdk version doesnt relate to the android versions you can build for 14.36.52 # i can have the latest sdk which can only build for 1.6 14.37.18 Quit Elfish (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 14.37.59 # we don't have a means to check the ndk version 14.38.23 Join Elfish [0] (amba@2a01:4f8:100:90a1:abc:abc:abc:abc) 14.38.49 # Well, then we need *all three*& things, ideally :) 14.39.05 # There are important bugfixes to the native toolchain in NDK releases which are independant of SDK or API level 14.39.16 # i'm not saying rockbox depends on them now, but it might, conceivably 14.39.24 # (i know the guy here who does the NDK releases :) 14.40.30 # tell him he did a bad job recently :p 14.40.46 # i assume you're referring to 7b :p 14.41.32 # android 4.0.3 isn't an sdk version at all, so I don't see how that is better than android15 14.41.34 # anyway, yeah, the sdk release is less important, but i would suggest we require NDK release 7c if reasonable, because toolchains are just, ugh 14.41.57 # Zagor: er, yeah. the sdk release is r18 14.42.00 # sorry :) 14.42.16 # r18 is the one that adds support for 4.0.3, which is why these things get conflated a lot :p 14.42.45 # Torne: not r16? http://developer.android.com/images/sdk_manager_packages.png 14.42.59 # oh, "not installed" 14.43.21 # definitely r18. the sdk "release" refers to, basuically, the package manager and friends :p 14.43.25 # ETOOMANYVERSIONS 14.43.27 # everything else is versioned as well 14.43.36 # So yeah, my install here probably has >10 version numbers involved 14.43.41 # becaue i have loads of different packages 14.43.52 # I withdraw my opinion. just do the right thing :-) 14.44.08 # for our purposes i would suggest we want to care about the NDK version. the SDK version probably doesn't matter a great deal, just which API level we have the libs for 14.44.21 # but, i guess we haven't been caring about the ndk version up till now.. 14.44.25 # so, hey 14.44.34 # i'm not actually working on the android port, someone who is can decide :p 14.48.51 # it would be nice if the ndk version could be checked as well 14.49.46 # regardless of which api we target we are likely to want the latest ndk, because newer toolchain is less busted toolchain (also maybe, yaknow, better) 14.50.54 # rbclient.pl can only check one tool right now 14.52.00 # that's easily fixed 14.52.08 # couldn't the toolname be of the form android15-ndk7c though? 14.52.36 # (i have never looked at the build system scripts) :) 14.52.37 # the name doesn't have to contain the version numbers. it can be android_b 14.52.51 # the versions to be checked are in the rbclient.pl script 14.52.58 # ah 15.05.23 # The main "problem" is that versions are currently checked by running one command and checking for a given output string, so it is a bit of work 15.10.42 # how do you check the version of your installed ndk? 15.11.44 # er, no idea. 15.12.28 # * Torne pokes it 15.13.39 # Zagor: cat $ANDROID_NDK_PATH/RELEASE.txt 15.13.48 # ah, yes 15.14.55 # good 15.14.56 # we're not completely unhelpful :p 15.20.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.36.37 Join enthdegree [0] (~enthdegre@wikimedia/enthdegree) 15.37.15 Quit bluebrother (Disconnected by services) 15.37.22 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 15.39.58 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 15.41.12 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g225253222.adsl.alicedsl.de) 15.48.41 Join swilde [0] (~wilde@aktaia.intevation.org) 15.53.20 Part LinusN 16.26.00 Quit Bagder (Quit: connection reset by beer) 16.43.28 # Zagor: you didn't do anything about the sdk/ndk version did you? 16.43.38 # not yet, no 16.43.45 # was thinking about doing it :) 16.44.20 # heh, i hoped you did something :p 16.47.10 Quit fyrestorm (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 16.57.58 # Zagor: is http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/#/c/215/ fine? 16.58.16 # (patch set 2 is mine) 16.58.37 # oh wait, I wanted to make it android15 17.01.11 # better now 17.03.56 # kugel: looks fine. gotta go now though. 17.04.04 Part Zagor 17.05.31 # Commit e43b856 in rockbox by 03Thomas Martitz: (Author: Jonathan Gordon) skin_engine: rework the parser to be closer to the langauge grammar. 17.05.38 # ahh 17.05.41 # that was the wrong tab! 17.06.14 # :'( 17.07.28 # hm the revert button just opens a new ticket 17.07.45 # Commit 728db21 in rockbox by 03Thomas Martitz: Revert "skin_engine: rework the parser to be closer to the langauge grammar." 17.08.06 # e43b856 build result: All green 17.11.07 # 728db21 build result: All green 17.11.20 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 17.11.24 # it doesnt look like I can re-open g#214? 17.15.08 # Commit 78dae07 in www by 03Thomas Martitz: buildserver: Bump android requirement and add android15 toolchain (remove android30 in exchange). 17.17.23 # I didnt add ndk checks for now 17.20.53 # Commit 0d93677 in rockbox by 03Thomas Martitz: android: bump target platform version to 4.0.3 (this time for real). 17.20.54 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.20.55 # Commit 3f4be75 in rockbox by 03Thomas Martitz: android: Bring back broken unzip progress dialog. 17.20.59 # Commit 4269934 in rockbox by 03Thomas Martitz: touchscreen/lists: fix two regressions 17.21.28 # kugel: does at least one client advertise the new toolchain? 17.21.38 # mine, yes 17.21.42 # ok 17.22.32 Quit GodEater_ (Quit: Page closed) 17.23.34 # 4269934 build result: All green 17.27.05 Quit ender` (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.27.37 Quit Rower85 (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.27.40 Join ender` [0] (~ender@foo.eternallybored.org) 17.27.49 Join Rower85 [0] (husvagn@v-413-alfarv-90.bitnet.nu) 17.28.18 # I updated my dynamic_lcd branch on https://github.com/kugel-/rockbox/tree/dynamic_lcd 17.28.22 # works for 480x800 now too 18.19.11 Quit einhirn (Quit: Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org) 18.31.04 Quit liar (Read error: Connection timed out) 18.31.40 Join WalkGood [0] (~4@unaffiliated/walkgood) 18.40.43 Quit Keripo (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 18.43.14 # gevaerts: can i close FS#12583 ? 18.43.14 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12583 3Rockbox stalls my computer's BIOS (bugs, unconfirmed) 18.43.58 # saratoga: I'm not sure 18.44.14 # i don't see what we can do about a BIOS problem on his computer 18.44.44 # That's true, but are we sure it's really a BIOS problem? I think it is, but... 18.45.22 # On the other hand we're also not very likely to get real information about it I think 18.46.43 # if a computer doesn't boot due to a USB device, something is wrong 18.47.25 Quit swilde (Remote host closed the connection) 18.48.27 # * gevaerts nods 18.49.28 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng426.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 18.50.44 # FS#12547 18.50.45 # http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12547 3Audio level different between Radio FM and Music Playback (bugs, unconfirmed) 18.51.09 # has anyone noticed this? i guess maybe when we adjusted the HP amp volume a while back we didn't adjust the radio gain the same 18.53.25 Join bitcraft [0] (~bitcraft@173-20-20-92.client.mchsi.com) 18.54.22 Join prof_wolfff [0] (~prof_wolf@82.159.8.127.dyn.user.ono.com) 18.55.21 # gevaerts, saratoga: I have a cheap 10 port USB hub (i.e. multiple chained hubs) that froze a PC during POST fwiw 18.55.42 # The affected mobo is no longer in a PC so I can't test with Rocbox sadly 18.55.57 # Although I think it is in the loft somewhere :) 18.56.43 # I guess it can be closed as unlikely to be a rockbox bug 18.58.52 # I've seen this computer stalls to boot with USB device plugged on a few computers with my M5 - that is the Cowon loader then though, so not Rockbox'S. I've always assumed that they try to boot off of the USB device 18.59.22 # and don't find the operating system on it, I mean 18.59.52 # ok, that bug report is slightly different 19.00.04 # * pixelma should have read that one first 19.00.05 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-175-223.student.uu.se) 19.00.07 Quit n1s (Changing host) 19.00.07 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 19.00.52 Part TomColler 19.01.05 Join mortalis [0] (~mortalis@77.108.98.177) 19.05.15 Quit bitcraft (Remote host closed the connection) 19.09.24 Join bitcraft [0] (~bitcraft@173-20-20-92.client.mchsi.com) 19.19.37 # I have also seen this on my machine but I always suspected a bios bug 19.19.41 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 19.20.57 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 19.29.36 Quit enthdegree (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 19.44.11 Join captainkewllllll [0] (cf57a9a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.207.87.169.162) 19.44.45 # my machine won't boot with my fuze connected IIRC 19.45.44 # is it due to USB HID or due to it trying to find an operating system on the device? 19.46.24 # it's trying to boot off it 19.47.33 # checking if it can boot from the device can take a while (on some machines at least) apparently 19.47.52 # i think my machine just freezes, naturally i don't trigger this often 19.53.44 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@ip117-49-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) 19.53.45 Quit bertrik (Changing host) 19.53.45 Join bertrik [0] (~bertrik@rockbox/developer/bertrik) 19.56.18 Join Bagder [241] (~daniel@rockbox/developer/bagder) 20.12.19 Join enthdegree [0] (~enthdegre@wikimedia/enthdegree) 20.16.39 # is there some kind of way to debug skin_engine / skin_parser stuff? 20.21.51 Join piggz [0] (~piggz@host-89-241-5-10.as13285.net) 20.23.47 # hi....collected new car, Kia Ceed with Kia ipod cable....the compatibility seems patchy on my IPod Video.....sometimes the car sees it as a plain AUX connection, others in full Ipod mode. When on IPod mode, the display on the radio went kinda corrupt as it displayed crazy characters....and i also think it crashed rockbox at one time :) any tips? 20.24.06 # ofcourse, all this is moot if the wife crashes it on her first drive! 20.24.57 Join fredbauer [0] (~fred@216.8.239.112.etczone.com) 20.26.00 Join lebellium [0] (~chatzilla@e179074003.adsl.alicedsl.de) 20.31.28 # git question: If I have about seven separate patches that I use should I make git branches for all these? Can I apply the changes from every branch to compile without merging each with master? 20.33.06 Join Horscht [0] (~Horscht@xbmc/user/horscht) 20.35.38 # you can do whatever you like locally :p 20.38.10 # Haha 20.40.56 Quit mortalis (Quit: KVIrc 4.1.1 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 20.42.11 Quit WalkGood (Quit: ♪ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪) 20.47.49 # fredbauer, I think you and AndyP are the only ones actively working on IAP, right 20.49.59 # bertrik: I'm not working on IAP... 20.51.26 # oh sorry, got you confused then with someone else who does work on IAP, I think 20.52.15 Quit bitcraft (Remote host closed the connection) 20.55.45 Join bitcraft [0] (~bitcraft@173-20-20-92.client.mchsi.com) 20.57.04 Quit Keripo (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 20.59.52 # fredbauer: if the patches are all for the same thing, i'd make one branch and then sequentially commit each locally as it was finished 21.00.01 # if they're different things, i'd make branches 21.00.08 # but i may not be using git correctly 21.02.59 # saratoga, yes, they're separate patches ( changes to the keyboard, text editor, 10 band eq, lower clocks, etc.) What I'm trying to figure out is can I check out branches A, B, and C at the same time without merging everything. 21.03.09 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@nic-aruba-dhcp-212-0156.wireless-pennnet.upenn.edu) 21.05.43 # funman, do you know which AMSv2 targets specifically don't use 1970/1/1 as the base date for the RTC (but 1972/1/26 instead)? 21.06.10 # it seems the sansa clip zip does use 1970/1/1 21.08.38 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 21.21.01 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.21.39 Quit saratoga (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 21.23.11 Quit fredbauer (Quit: Leaving) 21.23.36 Quit thegeek_ (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.35.23 # Commit a92a0fe in rockbox by 03Bertrik Sikken: as3514 rtc: sansa clip zip uses 1970/1/1 base date instead of special AS3525v2 date 21.37.34 # a92a0fe build result: All green 21.40.25 # uh oh, what happened to sansa clip binsize (-1696) 21.42.44 # I like to push some changes to gerrit for review - but cant. instead i get this: error: failed to push some refs to 'ssh:// ...' any ideas what i am missing? 21.43.52 # do i have to use the sandbox? 21.44.20 # Misanthropos: have you followed the guide in the wiki? 21.44.48 # mostly - i have ssh, openID, and did a rebase 21.45.03 # are excess initializers bad? 21.45.28 # n1s, i think i found something ... will try that 21.46.09 # bertrik: excess how? 21.46.49 # like in /home/bertrik/rockbox.git/rockbox/apps/gui/wps.c:115:13: warning: excess elements in array initializer [enabled by default] 21.47.12 # I'd say they definitely aren't *good* 21.47.52 # I get that when compiling the mr100 sim in debug and logf mode 21.48.23 # ah, no that sounds bad, i'm not really sure what will happen though 21.48.52 # i though you might mean like initing a var and always overwriting that value 21.49.03 # and a segfault when trying to run the ./rockboxui 21.50.22 # ! [remote rejected] HEAD -> refs/for/master (you are not allowed to upload merges) ??? 21.51.34 # bertrik: iirc logf on remote lcd targets output the messages to the remote so there's probably some clash with that 21.52.36 Quit enthdegree (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 21.53.23 # I'll disable LOGF 21.53.28 # sorry, for the last message - i took a different branch :-/ 21.53.42 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 22.03.04 Join enthdegree [0] (~enthdegre@wikimedia/enthdegree) 22.03.20 Join thegeek [0] (thegeek@171.17.9.46.customer.cdi.no) 22.04.56 Quit y4n (Quit: Today is the perfect day for a perfect day.) 22.06.26 # bertrik: sorry, i dont know 22.07.20 Mode "#rockbox +o Torne" by ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) 22.07.22 Mode "#rockbox -b *!~Ahurhurr@101.98.*$##fix_your_connection" by Torne (~torne@rockbox/developer/Torne) 22.07.32 Mode "#rockbox -o Torne" by Torne (~torne@rockbox/developer/Torne) 22.08.10 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: Bye ;)) 22.15.43 Quit bitcraft (Remote host closed the connection) 22.18.04 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 22.30.56 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@eng207.wireless-resnet.upenn.edu) 22.32.23 Join webguest36334 [0] (~5b90cc1a@www.haxx.se) 22.33.23 Quit webguest36334 (Client Quit) 22.35.03 Quit ruskie (Excess Flood) 22.37.59 Quit Keripo (Quit: Leaving.) 22.40.33 Join bitcraft [0] (~bitcraft@66.254.199.148) 22.41.04 Join ruskie [0] (ruskie@sourcemage/mage/ruskie) 22.43.27 Quit Rower85 (Quit: Hmmm...) 23.21.05 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.22.55 Quit bitcraft (Remote host closed the connection) 23.36.43 Quit captainkewllllll (Quit: Page closed) 23.38.14 Quit piggz (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)