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I'm not sure if it's not added yet because the fuze+ isn't fully supported yet, or if it's some error on my part. Or maybe it's just not possible. XD 06.52.33 Join eintopf_ [0] (~eintopf@zzz.strace.org) 06.57.41 Quit beta2k (*.net *.split) 06.57.41 Quit mikroflops (*.net *.split) 06.57.41 Quit GeekShad1w (*.net *.split) 06.57.41 Quit jordan` (*.net *.split) 06.57.41 Quit TBCOOL (*.net *.split) 06.57.41 Quit freqmod (*.net *.split) 06.57.41 Quit kaner (*.net *.split) 06.57.41 Quit dionoea (*.net *.split) 06.57.41 Quit eintopf (*.net *.split) 06.57.41 Quit Barahir (*.net *.split) 06.57.41 Quit CIA-44 (*.net *.split) 06.57.41 Quit scorche (*.net *.split) 06.57.41 Quit Zambezi (*.net *.split) 06.57.42 Quit thegeek_ (*.net *.split) 06.57.42 Quit Farthen (*.net *.split) 06.57.42 Quit qnm (*.net *.split) 06.57.42 Quit Rondom (*.net *.split) 06.57.42 Quit lembas (*.net *.split) 07.02.19 # <[Saint]> kylethedarkn: the manual has a fine section on album art. 07.03.34 Join lembas [0] (iam@lembas.ws) 07.05.15 # Am I just blind? What section is it under if you could be so kind? 07.07.17 # <[Saint]> I'm on my mobile at traffic lights, so its not terribly convenient for me to poke there myself. 07.07.27 # <[Saint]> Is there not a search function? 07.07.58 # Oh, I missed it up there. Lemme try taht 07.08.01 # that* 07.11.36 # Here we are. Darn, I guess Rockbox doesn't support embedded album art for flac at all. Looks like I installed it for nothing. I would have thought it would though. Oh well. 07.11.50 # Thanks for the help btw. 07.12.38 Join jordan` [0] (~gromit@2001:660:3302:2826:225:90ff:fe20:d9a8) 07.12.38 Join beta2k [0] (~Beta2K@d24-36-128-84.home1.cgocable.net) 07.12.38 Join mikroflops [0] (~yogurt@h-34-156.a238.priv.bahnhof.se) 07.12.38 Join TBCOOL [0] (~tb@c-123071d5.09-42-73746f22.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) 07.12.38 Join freqmod [0] (~quassel@2001:700:300:1430:226:18ff:fe82:1a24) 07.12.38 Join Barahir [0] (~Barahir@fb08-acstud01.anorg.chemie.uni-giessen.de) 07.12.38 Join CIA-44 [0] (~CIA@cia.atheme.org) 07.13.11 Join kadoban [0] (~kadoban@ip98-165-177-158.ph.ph.cox.net) 07.13.35 # <[Saint]> You can use one of a great number of tools to extract the embedded art to one of our many supported art locations/naming schemes. 07.14.20 Join scorche [0] (~scorche@rockbox/administrator/scorche) 07.14.20 Join Zambezi [0] (Zulu@bnc.fran.dotbnc.se) 07.14.20 Join thegeek_ [0] (~thegeek@171.17.9.46.customer.cdi.no) 07.14.20 Join Farthen [0] (~Farthen@2a01:4f8:101:2a4:0:bc28:b2e1:9) 07.14.20 Join qnm [0] (~qnm@2001:44b8:3110:f300:208:9bff:fec0:179a) 07.14.20 Join Rondom [0] (~rondom@2a01:488:66:1000:b24d:4f2f:0:1) 07.14.35 # <[Saint]> The manual explains the naming scheme, location, and order of preference. 07.15.43 # Yes, I saw that. I am just hesitant to do that. There seemed to be a lot of restrictions on what filetypes and types of filetypes could be used, also filesizes. I embedded all my flac with album art that was at least 500x500px 07.16.13 # <[Saint]> Which is totally irrelevant for album art use :) 07.16.36 # <[Saint]> The largest dimension should be the smallest dimension of the screen. 07.16.54 # <[Saint]> That's the maximum size it can display anyway, any larger is waste. 07.17.17 # True, I just wanted the files to display nicely on whatever device including my computer 07.18.42 # <[Saint]> I strip all my embedded art, as its pretty much waste. There's no need for per-file art in Rockbox unless you want a different image for each track (...maybe people do that? Dunno...) 07.19.14 # I usually only have one song per album 07.19.25 # <[Saint]> I have a single "cover.jpg", sized accordingly, in each album directory. 07.19.27 # And I don't want a billion picture files laying around XD 07.19.45 # I also don't have album directories all my music is in one folder 07.19.53 # <[Saint]> It'd take up less room than your embedded art :) 07.20.01 # <[Saint]> And, you can mark it hidden. 07.20.27 # <[Saint]> Each to their own, however. 07.20.39 # I just want everything to be within the music file is all. Don't want to worry about moving or deleting album art 07.20.53 # It's easier that way 07.21.25 # <[Saint]> "Everything in one folder" is really a nightmare when it comes to album art in Rockbox, unfortunately. 07.21.49 # <[Saint]> In general, really :) 07.21.55 # Well I've found this one program that says it can make it work by doing artist-album.jpg 07.21.55 Quit kadoban (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 07.22.15 # So hopefully this'll work nicely. Then I can move on to figuring out how to get this theme not to crash 07.23.45 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 07.24.31 # <[Saint]> Which theme/symptoms? 07.25.40 # * [Saint] wishes to point out he's long since pulled over (not "one of those guys on the bloody phone while driving...") :) 07.26.19 # Ah thank you. The theme is Rayboradio_ypr0 and it goes to the panic screen when I try to select the theme. 07.27.38 # <[Saint]> Ooooohhh...nice. Do you recall the panic message specifically by any chance? 07.27.51 # No, but gimme a second and I can recreate it. 07.28.59 # <[Saint]> As that really shouldn't happen, it should fail gracefully (or at least partly so). 07.31.14 # I accidentally uninstalled the bootloader, so that's installing again right now, should have the info soon 07.32.35 # Okay here we go: *PANIC* Stkov main bt pc: 0x6004CD7C, sp: 0x600A4CEC A: 0x6004CDD4 bt end 07.32.59 # That in black text on a white screen 07.33.26 # <[Saint]> Could you also report the build version, please? 07.34.51 # It is the latest build. I used the rockbox utility to install. I'm not sure where the lastest build version is listed 07.35.21 # <[Saint]> The panic message, and knowing the exact build, enables one to view (hopefully) exactly where the error is taking place. 07.35.28 # <[Saint]> Which helps immensely. 07.35.40 # 3.11.2 Looks like the latest build 07.36.47 # <[Saint]> System - Rockbox Info 07.37.01 # <[Saint]> This will report the exact revision. 07.37.47 # Okay Version: 885db72-120422 07.38.36 # <[Saint]> Thank-you. 07.45.15 Join wtachi [0] (~chat@bloom.wtachi.us) 07.47.37 Join shamus [0] (~shamus@ip-206-192-195-49.marylandheights.ip.cablemo.net) 07.48.57 Join RandomTime [0] (~RT@wikia/vstf/Randomtime) 07.52.39 # Do you know how frequently there's a new build? 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I do remember testing this case on hwcodec a long time ago, and it copes. 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This should push Hifimans to unstable 10.31.42 # wodz: done 10.33.22 # thx 10.37.30 # Zagor: What is the meaning of extra column in 'delta' view? 10.43.20 # If all I did was modify a theme's backdrops,font,iconset, and wps file, does that constitute a new theme? 10.44.43 Join antil33t| [0] (~Ahurhurr@101.98.150.103) 10.45.25 # isnt that about everything you can modify? :) 10.47.26 Quit antil33t (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 10.49.06 Join antil33t [0] (~Ahurhurr@101.98.150.103) 10.50.24 # Well I didn't touch the sbs file and it's mostly minor tweaks to make it look a bit better and then a change of background to fit the new layout 10.52.26 Quit antil33t| (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 10.52.52 Join antil33t| [0] (~Ahurhurr@101.98.150.103) 10.55.56 Quit antil33t (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 10.56.49 Join antil33t [0] (~Ahurhurr@101.98.150.103) 10.59.38 Quit antil33t| (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 10.59.59 # Is there a screenshot tool for rockbox so that I can capture what this theme tweak looks like? 11.00.48 Join amithkk [0] (u4289@2buntu/writers/amithkk) 11.01.51 # kylethedarkn: you can use simulator to do this 11.03.08 Nick amithkk is now known as Andrew__ (u4289@2buntu/writers/amithkk) 11.03.08 # Okay, and then one more question. Is there a setting in rockbox to control what amount of time passes before the screen dims, and where would is be? 11.03.21 Nick Andrew__ is now known as AndrewStrong (u4289@2buntu/writers/amithkk) 11.03.55 Nick AndrewStrong is now known as ubuntu__ (u4289@2buntu/writers/amithkk) 11.04.06 Nick ubuntu__ is now known as xubuntu (u4289@2buntu/writers/amithkk) 11.04.12 # kylethedarkn: it is. I strongly advice to read manual :-) 11.04.16 Nick xubuntu is now known as a (u4289@2buntu/writers/amithkk) 11.04.26 Nick a is now known as b_ (u4289@2buntu/writers/amithkk) 11.04.26 # Okay 11.04.39 Nick b_ is now known as amithkk (u4289@2buntu/writers/amithkk) 11.10.29 # Hmm, the simulator can't actually play anything 11.10.34 # So the album art check fails 11.11.23 # Wait nevermind 11.12.17 Join antil33t| [0] (~Ahurhurr@101.98.150.103) 11.15.23 Quit antil33t (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 11.23.47 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 11.30.20 # Alright is this enough to call this a new theme? http://i.imgur.com/MzZCh.jpg 11.31.38 # kylethedarkn: you know there are themes on the theme site that are little more than cabbiev2 with a new colour? 11.31.51 # Oh really? 11.32.06 # I did not know that. Then this is definitely enough 11.35.44 Join antil33t [0] (~Ahurhurr@101.98.150.103) 11.38.26 Quit antil33t| (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) 11.41.56 Join antil33t| [0] (~Ahurhurr@101.98.150.103) 11.44.53 Quit antil33t (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) 11.49.55 Join Ninemmtylenol [0] (~9mmtyleno@66.112.172.56) 11.53.10 # Hello is there anyone here? 11.55.03 # <[Saint]> Many. 11.55.16 # XD 11.55.24 # <[Saint]> Please, just ask your question. 11.55.36 # I was checking the port on the Sansa Fuze +. 11.55.44 # And it said that charging is working. 11.55.50 # And I just got the latest version of the port. 11.55.58 # And I can't get charging to work. 11.56.10 # Unless booted into official fw. 11.57.03 # So am I missing something or was the info inncorect? 11.57.18 # <[Saint]> What happens whn you plug USB/charger? 11.57.27 # Uhm 11.57.33 # "USB Boot Mode" 11.57.47 # Boot loader screen shows only. 11.58.06 # And when I take it out or just power it on with out being plugged in it will boot to RB. 11.58.14 # Then I would plug it back in. 11.58.25 # And then I would get the USB icon to show. 11.58.28 # But no charging. 11.59.36 # <[Saint]> I believe to charge without mounting you need to hold a (Target specific) key during USB insertion. 11.59.45 # <[Saint]> The manual should state which. 11.59.53 # That was changed to "any key" 11.59.58 # it's possible it doesn't charge in the bootloader; some don't 12.00.07 # it should charge if you boot rockbox and then plug it in 12.00.13 # whether or not it actually mounts, it should charge either way 12.00.22 # You mean boot in the official fw? 12.00.25 # Then charge? 12.00.27 # <[Saint]> Indeed, good point. 12.00.41 # no, boot rockbox, then plug the usb cable in. if you get the usb icon, then it should also be charging 12.00.54 # It's not though. 12.01.04 # how are you determining that it is not? 12.01.16 # That I have had it plugged in for an hour. 12.01.18 # does it display the charging icon on the status bar? 12.01.23 # And it goes right back off. 12.01.29 # Nope 12.01.36 # Ninemmtylenol: did you boot rockbox before plugging in usb? 12.01.46 # Zagor, Yep 12.01.51 # Used both methods. 12.01.51 # it sounds like you plug in usb when the player is powered off 12.02.07 # I did both. 12.02.18 # With usb boot showing. 12.02.23 # You'll need to talk to pamaury 12.02.23 # And with RB loaded. 12.02.26 # =O 12.02.57 # That the person incharge of the build? 12.03.12 # what actual version do you have? 12.03.14 # Nobody is "in charge", but he did most of the work on the fuze+ 12.03.22 # Ahh okay. 12.03.43 # Torne, the the reccomend version of the unstable port to the fuze +. 12.03.54 # What specific, exact version do you have? 12.03.55 # Gimme a sec and I will get specifics. 12.05.02 # Sansa Fuze+ 885db74 (2012-04-22T21:37:26) 12.05.03 # the fuze+ charging appears to be identical to the beast, so i can't see why it wouldn't work 12.05.32 # amiconn: it can be unpredictable, there is a open bug where it completly stops working after failing to play a semi buffered track 12.05.52 # =O 12.07.15 # Is there a certain model of the fuze+ that this was tested on "working"? 12.07.40 # what is the problem with the fuze+ ? 12.07.41 # i assume you mean 885db72 but hey :p 12.08.10 # pamaury: scroll up. Ninemmtylenol has problems charging. 12.09.07 # Also would it be better to use the default theme if I were to get support on this? 12.09.55 # the fuze+ doesn't charge in bootloader, we haven't release a new bootloader with this feature 12.11.01 # So what about the fully loaded rb, it doesn't charge there either. 12.11.10 # that's unlikely 12.11.17 # But it's not. 12.11.26 # does it power down ? 12.11.36 # Yes 12.11.54 # The only way I can get it to charge is with the official fw. 12.13.02 # ok, then could you charge a bit (like >10%) then boot in rockbox? There are some useful information in the debug menu that could help us understand why ? 12.13.57 # K I'm at debug. 12.14.04 # But it told me to keep out XD 12.14.16 # go in view HW info 12.14.38 # Which name? 12.15.06 # Debug Menu > View HW Info 12.15.10 # Yah 12.15.13 # I'm there. 12.15.18 # skip the two first screens 12.15.24 # Down key? 12.15.38 # any key except back should do 12.15.51 # K there. 12.15.51 # the third one displays the battery readout "mV" and "raw", what is the value ? 12.16.41 # Third line is temp. 12.16.53 # I see it now. 12.17.08 # third screen, first two lines 12.17.15 # I'm gonna sneak a question in here: Is there anyway to set up a wps file to display different background images based on whether or not Album Art is detected? 12.17.16 # mV: 3808, raw: 476 12.17.34 # <[Saint]> kylethedarkn: no. 12.17.41 # ok 12.17.47 # ok, then go to next screen 12.17.57 # K there 12.18.13 # Hmm, darn. 12.18.45 # <[Saint]> Though, you could fake it easily enough now. 12.19.34 # there are lots of values, it would be really nice if you could copy all of the values with usb cable unplugged first and then plug the cable and follow the two values "5V: chargelim" and "4.2V: en: " 12.19.43 # <[Saint]> You could draw a fullscreen viewport and push an image into he backdrop buffer conditionally based on %?C 12.19.52 # <[Saint]> kylethedarkn: ↑ 12.20.02 # <[Saint]> 8 12.20.11 # pamaury, Any way to take a screen shot? XD 12.20.21 # <[Saint]> Inordinate that superfluous 8 12.20.29 # <[Saint]> *ignore 12.20.39 # * [Saint] gives up typing 12.20.52 # How do you determine what viewports are on top? 12.20.56 # Ninemmtylenol: yes 12.20.56 # I didn't see any parameter for that 12.21.14 # select Debug Menu > Screendump, then display the screen you want and plug the usb cable 12.22.09 # <[Saint]> kylethedarkn: that's because there is none. There is no conceptof front or back. Only viewport and backdrop. 12.22.14 # it will create a file at the root of the filesystem, a bitmap with the date and time 12.24.53 # <[Saint]> kylethedarkn: the manual explains how an image can be drawn directly to the backdrop buffer from a viewport. This is the closes you can get to a reliable concept of front and back. 12.25.12 # <[Saint]> *closest 12.25.59 # okay, looking now 12.32.10 # Ninemmtylenol: did you manage to take a screenshot ? 12.34.12 # Hmm, I'm not seeing that in the manual. Only that it's possible to set a backdrop for the menu 12.34.54 Join soap_ [0] (soap@94.100.24.166) 12.35.59 Quit soap_ (Client Quit) 12.37.41 Join Kylethedarkn2 [0] (kylethedar@c-24-14-184-138.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 12.37.41 Quit kylethedarkn (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.38.24 # Shouldn't something like this work: %?C<%Vd(e)|%Vd(f)> 12.38.24 # %Vl(e,0,0,240,320,1) 12.38.24 # %X(wpsbackdrop-240x320x16.bmp) 12.38.24 DBUG Enqueued KICK Kylethedarkn2 12.38.24 # %Vl(f,0,0,240,320,1) 12.38.24 # %X(wpsbackdrop2-240x320x16.bmp) 12.39.04 # pamaury, You know 12.39.09 # I just wrote all that down. 12.39.10 Quit antil33t| (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 12.39.16 # And forgot to look at chat. 12.39.20 # =_= 12.39.25 # ah sorry 12.39.28 # XD 12.39.31 # Nah it's k 12.39.34 Join antil33t [0] (~Ahurhurr@101.98.150.103) 12.39.38 # Where do you want me to send the files? 12.39.59 # pastebin 12.40.05 # Sure enough. 12.44.26 # K got em up. 12.44.37 # <[Saint]> Kylethedarkn2: no, no, that won't work. 12.44.49 # <[Saint]> As I said, backdrops cannot be set conditionally. 12.45.14 # pamaury, Unplugged: http://pastebin.com/Lafamrwc 12.45.14 # Plugged: http://pastebin.com/0gtrjgRQ 12.45.50 # Hmm, I'm not understand what you mean by loading an image directly into the backdrop layer then 12.45.57 # I didn't see anything about that in the manual 12.46.04 # understanding* 12.46.52 # Ninemmtylenol: are you sure it's when the usb cable is unplugged ? 12.47.30 # <[Saint]> http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/CustomWPS - Viewport Draw Layer 12.47.41 # <[Saint]> Kylethedarkn2: ^ 12.47.54 # pamaury, With that data I showed you, yeah. 12.48.04 # hmm 12.48.38 # can you go to the next screen 12.48.43 # Aha, thanks 12.48.45 # Sure 12.49.01 # what does it display when the cable is unplugged ? 12.49.07 # "State: Discharing: 12.49.27 # plug the cable 12.49.43 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 12.49.43 # * [Saint] skulks away for a while 12.49.46 # "State: trickle" 12.49.58 # * Ninemmtylenol wants this to work. 12.50.09 # K 12.50.11 # Now 12.50.21 # It's "State: Charging" 12.50.48 # About a 7 second delay till the status changes from "trickle" to "charging" 12.50.56 # that's normal 12.51.01 # now go back to the previous screen (press back and then go through the screen) 12.51.39 # Yep here. 12.53.06 # what is the value of "4.2: en: " ? 12.53.21 # and pwd_4.2_charge ? 12.53.26 # So then like: 12.53.27 # %?C<%V(0,0,-,-,-)%VB%x(wpsbackdrop-240x320x16.bmp,0,0)%V(0,0,-,-,-)|%V(0,0,-,-,-)%VB%x(wpsbackdrop2- 240x320x16.bmp,0,0)%V(0,0,-,-,-)> 12.53.42 # The screen went black. 12.53.48 # >=( 12.54.03 # it happen some times, never found out why 12.54.42 # Hmm 12.54.58 # Holding the power button isn't reseting it like usual. 12.55.26 # you need to hold it for at least 10 seconds 12.55.31 # =O 12.55.32 # and then release it 12.55.36 # But it's been forever. 12.55.40 # OMG 12.55.42 # It's back on. 12.55.46 # Speak of the devil/ 12.56.21 # <[Saint]> Kylethedarkn2: no, you can't do that. 12.56.38 # Ninemmtylenol: I'm going for lunch, be back soon 12.56.52 # Sure thing 12.57.00 # Will let you know when you get back. 12.57.14 # * Ninemmtylenol wants some breakfast. 12.57.28 # How would you go about doing it then? The manual says you have to do a %V then %VB then %x then %V 12.57.38 # And then I have to somehow make that conditional 12.58.03 # <[Saint]> Its only an example, use conditional viewports. 12.58.25 # <[Saint]> As opposed to calligraphy static viewports with a condition, which is impossible. 12.58.33 # Kylethedarkn2, Does this still have to do with the bg image? 12.58.40 # Yes 12.58.43 # <[Saint]> *calling 12.58.51 # <[Saint]> Damn I hate this keyboard 12.59.34 # [Saint], Get a logitech one. 12.59.37 # Are really nice. 13.00.02 # Kylethedarkn2, What are you trying to do, like is some album art not showing? 13.01.38 # I'm trying to have it display a different background depending on whether or not it detects album art 13.01.41 Join jae [0] (~jae@dedicated.jaerhard.com) 13.01.51 # %?C<%Vd(e)%Vd(a)|%Vd(f)> 13.01.54 # %Vl(e,0,0,-,-,-) 13.01.54 # %VB 13.01.54 # %x(wpsbackdrop-240x320x16.bmp,0,0) 13.01.54 # %Vl(f,0,0,-,-,-) 13.01.54 # %VB 13.01.54 *** Alert Mode level 1 13.01.54 # %x(wpsbackdrop2-240x320x16.bmp,0,0) 13.02.05 # =O 13.02.07 # I c 13.02.27 # Ignore that %Vd(a) 13.02.28 # <[Saint]> Kylethedarkn2: instead of %?XX<%V(blah blah)|%V(blah blah)> you need to do %?XX<%Vd(blah)|%Vd(blah2)> 13.03.20 # <[Saint]> Where blah and blah2 are both fullscreen viewports. 13.03.26 # Okay, what about what I just pasted up there? 13.04.11 # <[Saint]> Yes, that should work. 13.04.19 # It doesn't though :( 13.04.46 # Causes it to go into fail safe mode 13.05.26 # Or whatever it's called when it goes to the wps with the peak meter in black and white 13.07.08 # * [Saint] pokes JdGordon 13.07.21 # I will say 13.07.28 # <[Saint]> As far as I'm aware, that should be possible. 13.07.47 # The charging screen, if working, is really sexy on the fuze +. 13.09.34 # Ninemmtylenol: I'm back 13.09.57 # Ohh okay 13.10.31 # so, with usb plugged, after waiting a bit, what are the values of "charging: ", and "pwd_4.2_charge" ? 13.10.48 # Playing the waiting game again. 13.10.56 # Left it unplugged when getting my coffee. 13.10.58 # =( 13.11.05 # and are there values different from the one you posted on pastebin ? 13.11.55 *** Alert Mode OFF 13.12.15 # On the screen just like those I typed up. 13.12.36 # charging: 1, pwd_4.2_charge: 0 13.12.56 # ok, go back to the screen with the battery readout 13.13.55 # write down the battery raw value and wait for several minutes and then see if it's different 13.14.10 # with these settings, that should really charge 13.14.18 # Okay that's the first screen right? 13.14.47 # Nope third, k 13.15.52 # * Ninemmtylenol is playing the waiting game again. 13.16.04 # pamaury, What ya have for lunch? 13.17.25 # <[Saint]> *cough* topic... *cough*" 13.17.56 Join anewuser [0] (~anewuser@190.207.222.122) 13.18.03 # =O 13.18.04 # Sorry 13.18.07 Quit anewuser (Changing host) 13.18.07 Join anewuser [0] (~anewuser@unaffiliated/anewuser) 13.19.23 # Ninemmtylenol: why do you think rockbox doesn't charge by the way ? 13.19.34 # I don't know. 13.19.40 # The player is rather new. 13.19.41 # [Saint]: ? 13.20.42 # jhMikeS: ping? 13.20.50 # Note that the battery calibration has not been done on the fuze+ so the progress bar displayed might be rather wrong, I need to fix that 13.20.59 # <[Saint]> JdGordon: shouldn't it be possible to do conditional backdrops with %VB? 13.21.27 # yes 13.21.31 # sure 13.21.47 # <[Saint]> I'm just unsure of the needed syntax. 13.21.59 # load a bunch of images, then conditionally display the one you want to use 13.22.10 # pamaury, Well I have the info now, I think I waited long enough. 13.22.18 # <[Saint]> Kylethedarkn2 is tryig to work it out, his example looks like it should work. 13.22.25 # <[Saint]> JdGordon: ^ 13.22.34 # Ninemmtylenol: ok, what the values before and after the waiting time ? 13.22.49 # Can I post here? 13.23.06 # 5 lines. 13.23.31 # no, you cant use %X() do to it 13.23.44 # <[Saint]> Aha. 13.23.45 # you need to load each image with %xl() and then display the one you want with %xd() 13.23.46 # Ninemmtylenol: just the battery (raw) line 13.23.51 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 13.24.01 # Before: Battery(raw) 490 13.24.04 # you will chew a ton of ram though 13.24.06 # <[Saint]> Ohhhh....that's right. 13.24.09 # After: Battery(raw) 491 13.24.13 # <[Saint]> Only one %x 13.24.54 # %x might not work with %VB 13.25.18 # <[Saint]> You wrote it does in the customwps page. 13.25.28 # ok :) 13.25.50 # Ninemmtylenol: hmm, not enough to conclude, the best thing would be to let it "charge" for half an hour and see if the readout is really different. If it's not it means that it really doesn't charge 13.25.58 # <[Saint]> Kylethedarkn2: there we go. Do you follow the above? 13.26.09 # Sure thing. 13.26.31 # Is there a another version of the port that I could use later on? 13.26.46 # Bc there is a nother problem. 13.27.03 # which version are you using ? 13.27.06 # which problem ?* 13.27.11 # Uhm 13.27.13 # Media functions. 13.27.26 # I used to be able to control winamp from the fuze+. 13.27.32 # But since the update. 13.27.43 # The "play/pause" buttons doesn't control winamp anymore. 13.27.56 # From the portable player. 13.29.38 # wait a minute, I'll check that with mine 13.29.56 # SUre 13.30.46 # nope, it works on mine, are you multimedia mode ? 13.30.50 # Yep 13.30.59 # which version do you have ? 13.31.06 # Uhm 13.31.22 # The player or the rb fw? 13.31.26 # rb 13.32.07 # 885db72 13.32.20 # The "Current Build" 13.33.00 # hmm, wait a minute, I don't have a cutting edge version, I'll maje sure we have the same 13.33.17 # K 13.39.02 # Ninemmtylenol: it works on my computer 13.39.09 # all multemedia keys :-/ 13.39.14 # Hmm 13.39.33 # Idk 13.39.35 # did you try with some other player ? I check with totem 13.39.41 # Well 13.39.42 # *checked 13.39.44 # wodz: the last column is "delta", a sort of summarization of the line 13.39.46 # I don't have any other players. 13.40.02 # I'm not convinced it serves a purpose... 13.40.25 # If I were to re-enable wmp that would require a restart. 13.41.23 # I knew last night that when connected to a friends vnc, that when I was pressing the play button, it turned his music on and off. 13.41.30 # Ninemmtylenol: are you understand windows ? Perhaps that would explain the difference 13.41.36 # When my mouse was focused on his window. 13.41.42 # *under 13.41.56 # Do you mean am I on windows? 13.42.12 # 9 OS 12 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Edition Service Pack 1 (Build 7601) 13.43.22 # I have a windows 7 to test but I'm currently working on linux so I can't reboot for now but be sure I'll check myself. However that doesn't look like a rockbox issue 13.43.43 # back to your fuze+, what is the readout of battery (raw) now ? 13.44.40 # 495 13.45.08 # ah, it seems to charge! 13.45.19 # Hmm 13.45.25 # Is that a good rate? 13.45.46 # Bc all I ever got was a 2% increase. 13.45.56 # And that was plugged up all night. 13.45.59 # Zagor: it would be nice to put some caption above the column then 13.46.06 # wodz: what player(s) match the default rk27xx build parameters? 13.46.24 # wodz: there is a caption. it's just not rotated, and so ends up way above the others... :) 13.46.47 # I don't know about the rate but at 495 you are still far away from 100% for sure 13.47.00 # Hmm 13.48.28 # Zagor: basically Ramos RM970 clones 13.48.37 # let it plugged and regularly check the value. It should top at about ~530. If at some point it stop, write down the value, go back in the OF and charge completely, then go back to rockboc and see what is the value. If there is a big gap, that would prove that there is a charging problem 13.48.46 # aka rk2706 reference design 13.49.02 # or that the discharge after charge bug is back 13.49.11 # Ohh no. 13.49.13 # Well 13.49.21 # I will keep an eye on it. 13.49.46 # Hope it helps. 13.51.25 # hope too 13.51.30 # Well I found another solution to the swapping background problem. 13.51.39 # Just messing with the design of the background 13.52.25 # wodz: I think we should mention that on the rk27xx page 13.52.31 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@45.17.113.87.dyn.plus.net) 13.53.40 # Zagor: Thats tricky business. I would not advertise anything as there are 2309847245089324 variations between clones 13.57.14 # hmm.. 13.58.29 # Zagor: buy me Ramos RM970 and I'll test if it works :-) 13.59.38 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 14.00.02 # Zagor: knob on the forum raported Foehn & Hirsch H16 Sleek Screen MP4 Player 4GB 3.0" TFT Screen as compatible with rk27generic build (http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,10428.45.html) 14.00.05 Join antil33t [0] (~Ahurhurr@101.98.150.103) 14.02.24 # wodz: that's nice. I've seen other mentions of using the rk27xx build. I think we should list those which someone has tested, even if yes there are a zillion oem names for each player. 14.02.56 # and a big red warning, of course 14.03.19 # Zagor: the fact is that nowadays recover from bad rockbox is easy 14.05.40 # nice 14.06.43 # wodz: I'd love you buy you more players. the rm970 doesn't look very easy to find though. 14.08.33 # Zagor: btw. would it be possible to sponsor me CRAIG CMP641F? (http://forums.rockbox.org/index.php/topic,34081.0.html). It seems to be a clone of Ramos T8 design and is proofed to be rk2705 based. It is possible to buy it on ebay. 14.08.57 # absolutely 14.09.58 # I couldn't find seller which ships to Europe unfortunately but maybe our oversea chaps could help 14.10.37 Quit Thra11 (Remote host closed the connection) 14.11.16 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@45.17.113.87.dyn.plus.net) 14.15.29 # jhMikeS: ping... PLEEEEEASE :) 14.42.45 Join WalkGood [0] (~4@unaffiliated/walkgood) 14.45.15 Quit Galois (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 14.54.32 # is there a strong objection about being able to tell to which drive belongs a volume ? 14.55.44 # As in add that to a debug/about screen? 14.56.50 # I plan to use it to add a boot menu to the imx233. Because there are report of internal storage failures, adding the possibility to boot from the sd card would be nice to have but then I need to know which volume is on the sd card 14.58.25 # * gevaerts nods 14.59.18 # I think storage.c keeps track of that, so all you need is a nice way to get at it I guess 15.00.51 # it's disk.c actually 15.01.13 # Hm, right 15.01.18 # oh, I just realized something great. The fuze+ has an i2c boot eeprom! which means one can force a sdcard boot potentially 15.02.47 Join mortalis [0] (~mortalis@77.108.98.177) 15.02.59 # gevaerts: a function like "volume_get_drive(int vol) ?" 15.04.10 # well "volume_get_drive(IF_MV_NONVOID(int vol))" 15.06.42 # * gevaerts nods 15.12.21 # wodz: about brightness: I could move lin_brightness to target specific backlight-target.h, or it would be better to use ifdef? 15.14.41 # mortalis: I have no strong opinion. 15.19.02 # what is the sensible thing to do if a track in the current playlist is deleted from disk before it starts playing but it is fully buffered? 15.21.51 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 15.23.15 # i would say remove from playlist, tbh 15.23.53 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 15.25.37 Join H140 [0] (~29884d84@www.haxx.se) 15.26.23 Join ___s3b3_ [0] (s3b3l@HSI-KBW-109-192-094-127.hsi6.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) 15.27.06 # is the optical out of the H140 is 16 bit ? 15.28.25 # almost certainly 15.29.05 # thanks 15.29.27 # almost :-) 15.30.00 # someone else may actually know for sure; i just know that it would be really, really dumb and weird for it not to be :p 15.30.28 Join mars__ [0] (~marspeopl@201-92-76-66.dsl.telesp.net.br) 15.30.55 # I'll drown it if it isn't 15.31.16 # * gevaerts would expect an H140 to know all about the workings of an H140 15.31.45 # heh, I have amnesia 15.31.46 # i dunno about that, i'm a human and i'm not sure i know what the human spleen is for 15.32.01 # Good point 15.32.57 # bye 15.33.00 Quit H140 (Quit: CGI:IRC) 15.37.34 # hmm... I don't know what needs to be done to skip a track in the buffer without probably restarting playback. 15.41.47 Quit fs-bluebot (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 15.42.54 Join fs-bluebot [0] (~fs-bluebo@g231121207.adsl.alicedsl.de) 15.43.32 Quit bluebrother (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 15.43.52 # arg, rbpaths.c is horrible! 15.45.23 Join bluebrother [0] (~dom@rockbox/developer/bluebrother) 15.49.10 Quit Thra11 (Remote host closed the connection) 15.50.29 Join Thra11 [0] (~thrall@45.17.113.87.dyn.plus.net) 15.53.17 # Does notepad screw up formatting or something? 15.55.43 # Kylethedarkn2: well it doesn't understand unix line endings 15.55.53 # so it might *look* like it screws up formatting 15.56.14 # I think it holds the record for being the single remaining text editor which doesn't handle them sanely 15.56.15 # Well what I mean is if I make it look nice in Notepad it doesn't work anymore 15.56.25 # "it" ? 15.56.41 # This code for the sbs file of a theme I've been editing 15.57.03 # It was all in one long string so I cleaned it up, but I think I broke it because of those line endings 15.57.04 # the easiest thing would be just to not use notepad 15.57.14 # use Notepad++ or something 15.57.16 # Does Notepad2 handle them fine? 15.57.21 # it's free and about a zillion times better 15.57.25 # yeah notepad2 should be fine as well 15.57.29 # ok 15.58.22 # * GodEater_ pokes JdGordon 15.58.35 # does our sbs parser really barf on CR/LF ? 15.59.03 # our parsers really should just handle any line ending 15.59.12 # indeed 15.59.16 # if they don't, plz fix 15.59.20 # this is not a thing humans care about :) 15.59.21 # that too 16.00.48 # our parser should handle it fine 16.00.51 # its in misc.c 16.00.53 # read_line() 16.01.26 Quit mars__ (Remote host closed the connection) 16.02.57 # so Kylethedarkn2 it shouldn't *really* matter if you insist on using notepad 16.03.06 # so it's likely you broke something else :D 16.03.56 # Hmm, I suppose that's possible, but I just rewrote the very basic structure of it and it doesn't work 16.04.23 # JdGordon: actually that's not universal :) 16.04.30 # http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ZZN77Sf1 16.04.32 # JdGordon: it ignores \r and treats \n as line ending 16.04.37 # Any reason why that should display something 16.04.41 # so it won't work for mac files with \r 16.04.58 Nick Kylethedarkn2 is now known as Kylethedarkn (kylethedar@c-24-14-184-138.hsd1.il.comcast.net) 16.04.58 DBUG Enqueued KICK Kylethedarkn 16.05.02 # Also that 16.28.18 # Kylethedarkn: the %?C line at least is missing a > 16.31.28 Quit davo (Read error: Operation timed out) 16.35.16 # Yes, I've already rewritten it. Thanks for looking though 16.36.27 Quit MCrase (Quit: MCrase) 16.37.59 Join evilnick [0] (d92c84f8@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 16.40.35 # pamaury, The device charged. 16.40.43 # Ninemmtylenol: cool :) 16.41.10 # Reached about 532 raw 16.42.00 # Since there was a new update to RB it seems that it installed a new HID driver. 16.42.31 # And windows is telling me to restart, so I will blame the multimedia functions based on that. 16.43.57 # Other than regular mp3's not playing in their last positions and quit on me all together. 16.44.12 Quit mortalis (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 16.44.19 # I need a place to write a bug report. 16.44.43 # Ninemmtylenol: http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/ 16.44.50 # Thanks 16.47.50 # ha an archos user on the forums 16.49.30 Join Galois [0] (djao@efnet-math.org) 16.55.33 Join TheLemonMan [0] (~LemonBoy@adsl-ull-248-250.45-151.net24.it) 16.57.28 Join mortalis [0] (~mortalis@77.108.98.177) 17.05.50 Part Zagor 17.19.40 # Well here's what I've been working on: http://i.imgur.com/Mqh7B.jpg 17.20.01 # I think it's pretty good for my first theme. Even if it is an edit of Druppal 17.20.25 # Kylethedarkn: it has a left to right progress bar! 17.20.35 # yes 17.20.46 Ctcp Ignored 1 channel CTCP requests in 0 seconds at the last flood 17.20.46 # * gevaerts dislikes left to right progress bars 17.21.01 # That's like all progress bars 17.21.12 # Exactly 17.21.16 # I don't know if I've seen a right to left one actually now that you mention it 17.21.16 # That's so *boring* 17.21.27 # the battery is like a backwards progress bar :D 17.22.29 # Kylethedarkn: http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=1535&target=gigabeatfx has a vertical progress bar and a non-linear battery meter :) 17.22.57 # Yes, but it looks very bad 17.23.15 # * gevaerts fails to agree 17.23.33 # You can't be serious...you're not trolling are you? 17.23.37 # It's totally unusable thanks to an unreadable font, sure, but I think it looks great 17.23.55 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 17.24.14 # Most of what it's got going is that parchment look, but it looks like 8bit parchment 17.24.16 # Kylethedarkn: yes, he is 17.24.21 # Why not photoshop some good parchment? 17.24.42 # Kylethedarkn: gevaerts is a notorious troll 17.24.50 # I see 17.24.54 # Kylethedarkn: all right, http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=1543&target=gigabeatfx then 17.25.05 # Now see those wavy lines 17.25.08 # genius 17.25.17 # who knew lines could wave 17.26.14 # * gevaerts recommends not looking at the wps without having coffee first 17.26.46 # Well I just spent like the last 8 hours making this theme for some reason 17.26.55 # So I might look at the code 17.28.47 # * GodEater_ finds the "you're jerks for switching to git" post on the forums. 17.29.04 # Perhaps we should ditch this entire internet fad and go back to floppy disks? 17.34.22 Quit Scromple (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.34.45 Join Scromple [0] (~Simon@119.225.209.134) 17.36.27 # the stock android music app got about 18 hours playback, although the test was somewhat disturbed by the phone's alarm going off for a while in the middle, so i'm not sure what impact that would have on battery 17.36.45 # i'll probably just try rockbox next and then retest the stock android app later 17.39.00 Join Scr0mple [0] (~Simon@119.225.209.134) 17.40.49 Join Keripo [0] (~Keripo@SEAS360.wlan.seas.upenn.edu) 17.41.08 Quit Scromple (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) 17.45.42 # JdGordon: bong? 17.46.13 # we _are_ jerks for switching to git but we like it :) 17.48.33 # hehehe 17.51.26 Quit mortalis (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 17.52.50 # And so it is posted 17.52.51 # http://themes.rockbox.org/index.php?themeid=1609&target=sansafuzeplus 17.52.57 # * Kylethedarkn flees 17.54.32 Join bitcraft [0] (~bitcraft@173-20-20-92.client.mchsi.com) 17.56.12 # Kylethedarkn: the original is called Druppel, I believe - not Druppal ;) 17.56.21 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 17.56.32 # bleh 17.59.25 # Crap 17.59.36 # It didn't copy over some of the files when I went to make the zip. :( 17.59.47 # Is there anyway I can update it or get it deleted? 17.59.57 # Fix that spelling as well 17.59.59 # Upload it again with the same name to update 18.05.43 # God damn this uploader is a pain in the ass 18.07.36 # Also it's weird that the actual theme page doesn't have a download link 18.07.48 # Nevermind 18.07.52 # I guess it's the pictures 18.07.55 # * pamaury is writing some terribly ugly code 18.08.05 # That's the best kind 18.08.08 # I think most people download using Rockbox Utility anyway 18.08.33 # Yeah, that's probably true 18.08.35 Join mortalis [0] (~mortalis@77.108.98.177) 18.09.16 # Somebody should redesign the site so that it's efficient but also more user friendly to people who aren't familiar with the whole program development thing 18.09.32 # Feel free to have a go at that 18.09.38 # Maybe 18.10.00 # we generally don't have time/interest/ability for that kind of thing 18.10.18 # also, it's difficult for most of us to put ourselves in the mindset of people who aren't familiar with development :) 18.10.19 # We do have interest, *and* strong opinions :) 18.10.27 # the things that are fairly visible on the site are the things we care about :p 18.11.07 Join y4n [0] (~y4n@unaffiliated/y4ndexx) 18.16.15 # damn, the linker tells me I've not allocated a memory region for .bss while I do :( 18.18.10 # Oh hey pamaury you did a lot of work on the Fuze+ Is there a solution in the works for the whole switch between filetypes causing a crash? 18.18.46 # never heard of this bug 18.19.14 # I guess that answers that. XD 18.19.29 # did you post a bug report ? can you describe it ? 18.19.50 # I believe there are already two bug reports for it. But essentially when switch between 18.20.03 # say flac and mp3 especially flac to mp3 it crashes 18.20.44 # switching* 18.21.11 # ah, there is a report for flac and mp3 but no I've not investigated it, sorry. I'm currently trying a find a solution for the ones who have a non-working internal storage but I'll try to have a look at this one. Is it deterministic ? 18.21.49 # If you mean repeatable 100% of the time then yes as far as I've tried 18.22.28 # do you have another rockbox player or not ? Just to make sure this is fuze+ specific :) 18.22.31 # It gives me a "Undefined instruction at 0000AC44 bt pc: 0x0000AC44, sp: 0x00005350 bt end" 18.23.11 # Oh, I might be able to rummage around and find one. I definitely have a friend who has a rockbox ipod that I can test it on soon 18.23.14 # In a day or two 18.23.50 # don't bother, I have several at hands, I'll try it myself :) 18.24.17 # Okey Dokey 18.25.31 # If I could figure out how the bug reporting system worked, or more accurately how to make sure I'm not posting a bug that already exists, I'd be posting more of them. I've found a few things that cause crashes. 18.25.34 # There was a (possibly) similar issue on the Android build not that long ago, pamaury 18.25.53 # Random chance being one of them 18.26.34 # Kylethedarkn: there is an exisiting bug report for it so I guess it's ok, it just needs to be sufficiently high on my todo list ;) 18.26.45 # Though it's funny, because the sansa firmware is so slow that having rockbox crash a few times is still faster than waiting for the original firmware to load. 18.26.52 # pamaury: Gotcha 18.27.31 # crashes are annoying though, especially the hard crashes when you need to hold power 10+ seconds 18.27.32 # I'm not sure how many people end up working on something like this, so don't let me bother you with stuff if you're already working on it by yourself 18.27.42 # That's true. 18.28.10 # well the fuze+ has a small number of very annoying bugs that are hard to figure out like the radio, the random freeze 18.28.29 # The one that always confuses me is the screen flicker 18.28.41 # Or the one where the screen slowly destroys itself 18.28.56 # those two just happen at random and cause hard crashes I believe 18.30.12 # yeah the screen flicker is really weird. 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It doesn't boot atm 19.48.47 Quit antil33t (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 19.49.11 Join antil33t [0] (~Ahurhurr@101.98.150.103) 19.50.30 # saratoga_, I basically neglected that patch. I think it should more configureable and have an asm implementation. 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21.59.03 # n1s: I've got a whole paper on computationally efficient resampling algorithms if you're interested 21.59.14 # but really anything but windowed sinc would be better I think 21.59.35 # i'm curious but i fear not curious enough to work on it 21.59.42 # yeah, same here 22.00.14 # probably a better use of time to make the dsp engine handle 48k 22.02.44 # you mean output 48K instead of 44.1K? 22.07.07 Quit Strife89 (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) 22.08.10 # f****, the i2c eeprom of the fuze+ seems to be write protected 22.08.13 # jhMikeS: yeah 22.09.52 # even linear probably isn't that bad for 96k > 48k or 88.2 > 44.1 resampling, so once you have 48k you're mostly set (although being sampling rate independent would also be cool if more difficult given the EQ) 22.10.38 # saratoga: it's not _that_ big a problem. only some hardware can do it though. my thought was just let the user select a global samplerate for shared audio and leave it or things will get very messy. the EQ can handle that, the crossfeed has a fixed delay line though. 22.11.06 # i assume we'd just make crossfeed disabled for any two tracks with nonequal sampling rate 22.11.24 # you meant "crossfade"? 22.11.42 # sorry, misread crossfeed above 22.12.22 # does that really matter? the two sampling rates are 8% apart, i doubt such a small delay makes much difference 22.13.12 # what about the mixer and each stream? sometimes switching is glitchy and you'd have to do it at exactly the correct time. 22.13.22 # you mean voice? 22.13.25 # mixing voice tha tis 22.13.27 # that is 22.13.29 # yeah, and beep and whatever else 22.13.56 # i don't know what the implications are for voice 22.14.29 # actually, what sampling rate does speex even use, 44.1k? 22.14.44 # we're using 16k -> 44.1K 22.15.51 # so we upsample it during decode? 22.16.00 # yes 22.16.38 # could we upsample to some other rate depending on the DSP state? 22.16.48 # would have to be done at some point so all streams match for PCM output 22.18.15 # computationally it just seems more efficient to adjust the clocks on everything rather then spend lots of CPU time on a high quality resampler 22.18.31 # i know the sandisk firmware does that, although their DSP engine is quite trivial compared to ours 22.18.32 # I'd really not want to have it switching all the time. 22.18.45 # because its complicated? 22.19.08 # very, and usually the hardware makes unkind sounds when doing it 22.19.31 # sure, but most people don't mix different sampling rate audio often, so i don't see a click or audio drop out when reclocking as a huge deal 22.19.49 # mostly just thinking about allowing for efficient playback of 48k albums ripped from DVDs and such 22.20.15 # that's why I think setting the global output rate is better and avoids all manner of complications 22.20.53 # so the main problem is mixing in voice and other sound effects with variable frequency audio? 22.24.10 # pamaury, a *hardware* i2c eeprom protection, you think? 22.24.17 # and switching exactly when it should be. it doesn't switch when the track switches, it switches when the mixer is done. 22.24.24 # * bertrik should bring his bus pirate to devcon 22.25.45 # then of course crossfade and the fact that many targets wouldn't even support 48K, the next one up would be 88.2 or else it would behighly inaccurate at best 22.26.30 # i think most do support 48k though, and crossfade across sampling rate changes would be easy enough to disable 22.36.55 Join kadoban [0] (~kadoban@ip98-165-177-158.ph.ph.cox.net) 22.37.25 Join Strife89 [0] (~Strife89@adsl-98-67-50-126.mcn.bellsouth.net) 22.37.38 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 22.38.46 # * jhMikeS so doesn't want to touch that since it would make an otherwise seamless experience of various tracks behave in quirky ways 22.41.29 # * bertrik wonders if you can get away with an 11/12 ratio for 44100/48000 conversion 22.41.35 Quit dhrasmus (Quit: Leaving) 22.43.18 Join liar [0] (~liar@clnet-p09-185.ikbnet.co.at) 22.48.50 Quit Strife89 (Quit: On the move) 22.49.04 Quit domonoky (Quit: Leaving.) 22.51.20 Quit mortalis (Quit: Leaving) 22.53.26 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 22.57.52 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 22.58.21 Join MCrase [0] (~mark@cpe-184-59-109-126.cinci.res.rr.com) 22.58.54 Quit leavittx (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 23.00.08 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 23.04.08 Part MCrase 23.05.10 Quit anewuser (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 23.05.17 Quit n1s (Quit: Ex-Chat) 23.05.50 Join MCrase [0] (~mark@cpe-184-59-109-126.cinci.res.rr.com) 23.05.52 Quit Horscht (Quit: Verlassend) 23.11.02 Join bitcraft [0] (~bitcraft@173-20-20-92.client.mchsi.com) 23.11.08 Quit ender` (Quit: Zombies eat brains, so don't worry - you're safe.) 23.13.12 Quit [Saint] (Remote host closed the connection) 23.13.52 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@unaffiliated/saint/x-8516940) 23.23.58 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.32.18 Quit ___s3b3_ (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.36.54 Quit [Saint] (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 23.45.46 Quit XavierGr (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 23.46.00 Quit dfkt (Quit: -= SysReset 2.55=- Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc.) 23.54.23 Quit bertrik (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) 23.54.44 Quit domonoky (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.57.09 # bertrik (for the logs): yes, the WP pin is set to vcc as far as I can tell