--- Log for 27.06.112 Server: kornbluth.freenode.net Channel: #rockbox --- Nick: logbot_ Version: Dancer V4.16 Started: 12 days and 0 hours ago 00.00.10 # what do i do with the datasheet? 00.04.21 # wasn't that the player that had some 24 bit DSP? 00.05.43 Quit sinthetek (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 00.06.30 Join sinthetek [0] (~sinthetek@cpe-071-071-085-044.triad.res.rr.com) 00.06.30 Quit sinthetek (Changing host) 00.06.30 Join sinthetek [0] (~sinthetek@unaffiliated/sinthetek) 00.07.04 # i think so 00.07.13 # Creative MuVo v100 00.09.36 # the one that's compiler needed to be remade 00.10.59 # I get the feeling that you're hugely underestimating the effort needed 00.11.17 # i know it'll be really hard 00.11.27 # i want to try, see how far i get 00.12.08 # yeah someone posted pics, its a sigmatel DSP 00.12.20 # don't bother, you won't be able to port rockbox to it 00.12.34 # why? 00.12.49 # no compiler, no 32 bit CPU 00.13.24 # incidentally, if you're asking this, you probably are a couple years worth of experience short of where you need to be to port rockbox to much of anything 00.13.31 # do you mean its impossible, or its really hard 00.14.56 # so maybe you should pick something simple to work on and then once you're more familiar with embedded programming look into porting 00.15.22 Join bitcraft [0] (~bitcraft@173-23-42-120.client.mchsi.com) 00.15.27 # usually its easier to crawl before you master spaceflight 00.15.35 # only other mp3 player i got thats not stable is sansa express 00.15.46 # any stable for the 160gb classic? 00.16.32 # i read somewhere that rockbox cant be ported to the express 00.16.39 # so yeah 00.16.47 # yeah theres a port, but it requires some hardware modification 00.16.55 # unless theres something i can do to a stable release 00.16.59 # if i were you i would buy a stable port and work on something for it 00.17.22 # i have 3 stable ports 00.17.29 # well then there you go 00.17.31 # work on one of them 00.17.53 # what is there to work on? 00.17.53 # e 00.17.59 # whatever you want 00.18.06 # sc_: we have the port status on the front page 00.18.19 # what would be something simple to work on? 00.18.52 # depends, what embedded stuff have you done before? 00.19.38 # nothing, but ive done quite a bit of regular programming 00.20.15 # hmm ok, then i would pick something familiar and work on that, generally writing stuff on an mp3 player is more frustrating then a PC 00.20.42 Quit bitcraft (Remote host closed the connection) 00.20.47 # port status you say? 00.21.16 Join bitcraft [0] (~bitcraft@173-23-42-120.client.mchsi.com) 00.21.23 # well, that hasn't changed in months, which i assume means that there is no `stable' 00.21.36 # whats the best firmware I can run on my ipod 6g 160gb? 00.21.43 Quit Wardo (Quit: Blarglarg) 00.21.51 # latest rockbox or the apple firmware 00.22.14 # 2012-03-20: Significantly improved battery life on the iPod Classic 6G 00.22.17 # :D 00.22.21 # any ideas for something to work on the clip or clip+? 00.22.50 # guess i am gonna build from git 00.23.36 Quit prof_wolfff (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) 00.24.31 # sc_: FWIW we do provide downloads of every rockbox target after ever code commit 00.24.59 Quit bitcraft (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.25.15 # no ideas? 00.25.20 Join bitcraft [0] (~bitcraft@173-23-42-120.client.mchsi.com) 00.25.30 # http://download.rockbox.org/daily/ipodclassic/rockbox-ipodclassic.zip 00.26.14 Join Scromple [0] (~Simon@119.225.209.134) 00.26.59 # saratoga: thanks 00.27.59 Quit bitcraft (Remote host closed the connection) 00.27.59 # guess 3.8mb is better than Receiving objects: 100% (235867/235867), 124.33 MiB | 4.41 MiB/s, done. 00.28.15 Quit PwnsomeWin (Quit: CGI:IRC) 00.28.22 # i should probably add that link to the wiki page for the classic 00.28.25 Join PwnsomeWin [0] (~626e36a6@www.haxx.se) 00.28.26 Join bitcraft [0] (~bitcraft@173-23-42-120.client.mchsi.com) 00.28.33 # i have an idea 00.28.47 # could i port this: http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/PluginPacbox to a clip or clip+? 00.29.16 # wait no... can't find the source 00.30.37 # source of what? 00.30.49 # pacbox 00.31.26 # pacbox is a part of rockbox 00.31.36 # huh? 00.32.16 Join bitcraft_ [0] (~bitcraft@173-23-42-120.client.mchsi.com) 00.32.27 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 00.32.40 Quit bitcraft (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 00.32.54 # im really confused at what i can do and what i cant 00.32.58 # you just posted a link to a rockbox plugin, that is, a part of rockbox 00.33.14 # yeah, but not for the sansa clip 00.33.16 Quit ender` (Quit: Friends come and go, but enemies accumulate. —- Jones Law - ... and sometimes the real trick is telling the difference. -- addendum) 00.33.42 # i want to make it compatible with the sansa clip 00.33.45 # PwnsomeWin: to be clear, rockbox runs on the sansa clip 00.33.56 # yeah, but the plugin pacbox doesnt 00.34.03 # whoa, what is the easiest way in linux to overwrite /mnt/ipod/.rockbox (old) with ~/.rockbox (new) 00.34.10 # rsync? 00.34.22 # rm then cp? 00.34.34 # i would just unzip directly to the player 00.34.52 # hrmmmm 00.35.26 # PwnsomeWin: there is just one rockbox, its an operating system that runs on a lot of devices, if you want the source for it, you can download it from our website using git 00.35.41 # i have the source 00.35.48 # then you have pacbox :) 00.36.16 # okay, then what CAN i add to the port? 00.36.18 # rockbox# unzip -o rockbox-ipodclassic.zip -d /media/floppy/ 00.36.23 # guess that worked :) 00.37.09 # PwnsomeWin: i'm sorry i don't understand that question 00.37.42 # since rockbox is stable on a sansa clip, what can i do with it? 00.38.28 # ? 00.38.45 # what can i do with the sansa clip port of rockbox? 00.39.11 # i guess the best answer i have is "whatever you want" but i'm guessing there is something else you're trying to ask 00.40.56 # i dont know what i want 00.41.35 Join [Saint] [0] (~Saint]@101.98.158.103) 00.41.36 Quit [Saint] (Changing host) 00.41.36 Join 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One in the same thing to the CPU. Like a slider & rotary potentiometer. 19.49.33 # so if i made three seperate clip files, you wouldnt take it? 19.50.00 # i think it is a bad idea. which changes do you want to make to the keymaps? 19.50.23 # well, i dont like using the power slider on the clip to go back 19.50.33 # some places, the only way to go back is the power slider 19.50.34 # menu button should work too 19.50.44 Quit PwnsomeWin (Quit: CGI:IRC) 19.50.46 # ok but which button would you use then? 19.50.52 Join PwnsomeWin [0] (~626e36a6@www.haxx.se) 19.50.59 # i dont think so, but lemme see 19.51.24 # He's right, sometimes the power button is the only way back. 19.51.28 # yeah 19.51.28 # if you use another combination, that combination would work on other clips too, so still no need for separate keymaps 19.51.30 # just tried it 19.51.37 # okay 19.51.45 # i agree that the clip keymap needs some love 19.52.03 # Same scenario with the ClipPlus 19.52.09 # so if i made a different combination for all clips, would you take it? 19.52.17 # if it was good 19.52.19 # sure 19.52.21 # okay 19.53.11 Quit FOAD (Quit: I'll be back) 19.53.36 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 19.54.14 # where is button.h? 19.54.28 # try find . -name button.h 19.54.44 # do i do that in git or something? 19.54.54 # yeah 19.55.01 # mmk 19.55.05 # cd rockbox; find .... 19.56.25 Join FOAD [0] (~foad@83.161.135.61) 19.56.26 Quit FOAD (Changing host) 19.56.26 Join FOAD [0] (~foad@unaffiliated/foad) 19.59.57 # does BUTTON_REL mean button release? 19.59.58 Join Galois [0] (djao@efnet-math.org) 20.00.46 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 20.01.41 # PwnsomeWin: yes 20.02.03 # okay 20.05.34 # Pardon my ignorance, but how do I build rockbox utility? I've got git up to date, and I know where the sources are. What now? 20.06.44 Quit benedikt93 (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 20.06.56 # ACTION_WPS_ABSETB_NEXTDIR, 20.06.58 # whats that? 20.07.17 Quit domonoky (Quit: Leaving.) 20.08.21 # JohnML: how did you install that build? 20.08.26 # also, is there work on the sansa express port? 20.09.32 Join GermanMushroom [0] (~c@s5146db6a.adsl.wanadoo.nl) 20.13.13 Quit MethoS- (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) 20.13.34 Quit bitcraft (Remote host closed the connection) 20.14.22 # Sansa express isn't a viable target, AFAIK 20.14.37 Join AlexP [0] (~alex@rockbox/staff/AlexP) 20.18.57 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 20.20.48 # so its not possible 20.20.49 # ? 20.23.36 # http://www.anythingbutipod.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17236 20.24.15 # megal0maniac: that's a bit outdated 20.24.28 # oh yeah 20.24.33 # i read that same topic 20.24.35 # At least some sigmatel targets are possible 20.24.36 # >_> 20.24.47 # I'd expect the sansa express to have very little RAM though 20.25.36 # True, but haven't seen any progress on that port in particular. Didn't know that sigmatel ports were now possible though. What current targets use sigmatel? 20.27.27 # Isn't the imx233 very similar to a sigmatel chip? 20.27.34 # Not the one in the sansa express though 20.30.31 # * megal0maniac shrugs 20.32.46 # gevaerts: i installed the svn version with rockbox utility 1.2.14 ( 3.06.12 ) 20.35.58 # ok, that should have done a proper installation. Weird... 20.39.07 # gevaerts: somebody replaced a menu item instead of adding it ?? 20.39.54 # are sansa c200, sansa c240 and sansa c250 all different players or are the c240 and c250 types of a c200? 20.40.49 # im confused about that =P 20.41.15 # different storage size, same player 20.41.24 # oh 20.41.32 # so long as you are talking about the same version for all 20.41.45 # so the c240 and the c250 are just different names for the c200? 20.41.48 Quit n1s (Read error: Connection timed out) 20.41.55 # not exactly 20.42.09 # They are c200 series players with different storage size 20.42.27 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@nl118-175-223.student.uu.se) 20.42.27 Quit n1s (Changing host) 20.42.27 Join n1s [0] (~n1s@rockbox/developer/n1s) 20.42.32 # I can't remember what they are off the top of my head, but e.g. c240 2GB, c250 4GB 20.42.34 Quit TheLemonMan (Quit: flush!) 20.42.39 # no, 1gb and 2gb 20.42.41 # i think 20.42.45 # well whatever 20.42.59 # im still confused 20.43.00 # >_> 20.43.03 # How? 20.43.18 # wait 20.43.24 # is c200 the name of the series? 20.43.27 # yes 20.43.33 # ohhhhh 20.43.35 # i see 20.43.41 # it isn't complicated 20.43.53 # well i was confused 20.43.54 # =P 20.45.47 # JohnML: I can't reproduce this in the simulator. I do get "Set song rating" there. I'm guessing something went wrong on the system that did that particular build 20.49.18 Quit megal0maniac (Quit: megal0maniac) 20.50.09 Quit evilnick (Quit: Leaving) 20.51.02 # gevaerts: i see that for weeks now and for several svn versions. I will uninstall/install rockbox ?!!! 20.51.26 # Does anyone else here have a clip+? 20.51.39 # * gevaerts doesn't have one, so he can't reproduce this properly 20.52.04 # Normally you get such things if the language file is wrong 20.52.25 # But that shouldn't happen if you installed properly, which rockbox utility should do 20.52.30 # Hm 20.52.38 # gevaerts: i try to change german to english !! 20.52.43 Join evilnick [0] (~evilnick@rockbox/staff/evilnick) 20.53.53 Join bitcraft [0] (~bitcraft@173-23-42-120.client.mchsi.com) 20.54.24 # JohnML: what do you mean? 20.56.20 # gevaerts: i changed language of ui from german to english, but no effect, tempo is called pitch, and thats what we espect ?!! 20.56.21 # Hello again, I was wondering is it possible to add songs into a seperate playlist from the database 20.56.59 # JohnML: no, it's definitely not. I'd really like to know if someone else sees the same thing on the clip_+ 20.57.39 # I'm sure *someone* here has one 20.57.45 # I do 20.58.02 # It's the only DAP I have that supports rockbox. 20.58.07 # rocktriangle: What are you trying to do? 20.58.12 # i have clip + 20.58.30 # gevaerts: i posted in your forum also, so lets wait if somneone else ... 20.58.32 Quit bitcraft (Remote host closed the connection) 20.58.57 # I put 8-9 albums onto my clip +, since they're all new to me I found many songs that I like within the albums but I Want them seperated for future listening 20.59.22 # PwnsomeWin: see here http://www.rockbox.org/tracker/task/12709 20.59.47 # I don't want to make a playlist on the computer since I'd rather spend my time listening to them and seperate them on the go. 21.00.08 # I hear it then and there and add it or do something with it, otherwise I'll forget. 21.00.52 # That sounds like something that you could use Playlist Catalogue for that, but I'm not sure if using the Database (rather than Files) will complicate things at all or not 21.01.37 # JohnML: one thing you could try (you never know!) is checking the filesystem 21.02.14 # gevaerts: ok, using gparted 21.02.28 # fsck.vfat 21.03.02 # evilnick: thanks 21.07.17 # Odd 21.07.43 Quit factor (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) 21.07.45 # When I enter Files, I see nothing, yet Database shows all the audio files in the play. 21.07.48 # player* 21.12.08 Quit mortalis (Quit: KVIrc 4.1.3 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 21.12.24 Quit n1s (Read error: Connection timed out) 21.16.18 # gevaerts, I have a clip+ 21.16.24 Join wodz [0] (~wodz@89-76-32-53.dynamic.chello.pl) 21.17.17 # \o/ - all bflt plugins I tried work as expected now. Exit problem vanished and rockblox works 21.17.19 # bertrik: can you enable the database, enable "gather runtime data", and see if the wps context menu has "set song rating"? 21.17.35 # (which should be fixed. We play tracks, not songs...) 21.17.44 # wodz: nice! What was the issue? 21.20.24 # there's no set song rating or set track rating 21.20.40 # Do you see "pitch"? 21.20.47 # yes 21.20.57 # What happens if you select that? 21.21.15 # you see the pitch screen 21.21.30 # gevaerts: I f*** up relocations processing 21.21.44 # gevaerts: you see pitch possibilities 21.22.31 # "Set song rating" is between "playback settings" and "bookmarks" for me 21.22.35 # (in the sim) 21.23.01 # I see it now, after the database reinitialised 21.23.17 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 21.23.17 Join factor [0] (~factor@r74-195-219-241.msk1cmtc02.mskgok.ok.dh.suddenlink.net) 21.24.19 # gevaerts: if i start the clip+ i sometimes see the message rebuilding tag database .. 21.24.55 # 0/9 .. 1/9 ..2/9 ... 21.25.36 # Does the database work normally? 21.25.44 # And do you have "gather runtime data" enabled? 21.25.53 # gevaerts: i think so 21.26.22 # gevaerts: have a look, i think i didn't 21.26.22 Join saratoga [0] (98032941@gateway/web/freenode/ip.152.3.41.65) 21.26.31 # scorche: can you remove me from the spam filter on the forums? 21.28.02 # saratoga: I've released your post now 21.28.12 # thanks 21.29.38 # gevaerts: just updating the database ... manually, before it has been auto updating 21.31.59 # I have a slight problem, in the ##MUISC# folder, there are folders of music that were deleted that are still there. Many folders within the music folder that were once deleted are still there and are now in the SID format. I try to delete them but nothing happens. 21.32.12 # For others, I get a massive warning saying the folder was moved. 21.32.34 # probably a corrupt file system, check it for errors 21.32.44 # Alright. 21.32.55 Join Wardo [0] (~Mirandaha@176-120-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr) 21.36.20 # Nope. 21.36.40 # It said it found some errors but when I tried to erase it, once again I get the same error saying everything has been moved. 21.36.43 # gevaerts: thanks for your help, i have to leave now, its soccer|football time in europe :-)) 21.37.18 Quit JohnML () 21.46.32 Join Zagor [0] (~bjst@host-95-199-1-60.mobileonline.telia.com) 21.46.32 Quit Zagor (Changing host) 21.46.32 Join Zagor [242] (~bjst@rockbox/developer/Zagor) 21.49.28 Quit stoffel (Remote host closed the connection) 21.49.47 # kugel: "Fatal build error: Command not found. Blocking kugel-x-kugel." 21.55.16 # that's why the build is hanging. kugel is currenty the only build client offering arch android15. and a bug in the master doesn't disqualify it when kugels client bugs out 21.56.10 # Zagor: whenever I restarted my client, it was always asked to redo the ypr0 build. Not sure if that points to something 21.56.12 # amiconn: your client "saturn" offers android30. iirc we changed the naming from "android version" to "api version", which it seems noone told you :-) 21.56.31 # gevaerts: yeah I saw that in the log. looks like another bug. 21.57.38 # Oh, could you bump the required client version one of these days so everything's ready for the next step in the "autobuild the manuals" project? 21.57.51 # I'm not sure if the check I did there is the best possible one though 21.58.31 # the version number looks mighty exact :-) 21.58.47 # It is! 21.59.24 # IIRC the version number gets more precise with every release rather than the more usual way of making it bigger 21.59.37 # haha, that's pretty funny 21.59.55 # yet quite user unfriendly 22.01.08 # bottom line: we need android support in more clients 22.01.24 # (I need to fix the bug(s) too, but that won't magically make android builds appear) 22.03.16 # I'll install one 22.03.40 # excellent 22.04.14 # I stopped my desktop machine while I'm away on vacation. otherwise it would have picked up the slack. 22.04.52 Join benedikt93 [0] (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) 22.08.32 Quit domonoky (Quit: Leaving.) 22.11.17 # can we (build clients) prepare something already for the "autobuild manuals" project? 22.12.06 # bertrik: make sure you have the latex installed, and as soon as the client is updated to actually know about it, add "latex" to the set of toolchains 22.12.10 # bah, the output is so clean now! :) 22.12.43 # I guess I can add "latex" already 22.13.22 # Zagor: So what should it tell instead? 22.13.26 # yeah, the server doesn't care what tools you report. it just matches against the list of builds 22.13.51 # amiconn: android15 22.14.14 # i might get a nano 3g to help with a port with it 22.16.12 # Hmm, I only have up to 13 in "platforms" 22.17.24 # amiconn: I think "android update sdk --no-ui --filter platform,platform-tool,tool" will update it 22.18.04 # g#286 updated 22.18.05 # 3Gerrit review #286 at http://gerrit.rockbox.org/r/286 : bFLT loader for plugins by Marcin Bukat (changes/86/286/3) 22.19.01 # wodz: so we need to update the sh toolchain and think about mips? 22.19.20 # if we want to go bflt route then yes 22.20.04 # mips is problematic as virtually no active dev has the target 22.20.26 # * gevaerts nods 22.21.35 Join domonoky [0] (~Domonoky@rockbox/developer/domonoky) 22.21.48 # wodz, what's the advantage of bflt over our current system? 22.22.03 Quit benedikt93 (Quit: Bye ;)) 22.24.00 # bertrik: 1) we could get rid of staticaly assigned pluginbuf (aka alocate buffer with buflib on demand) 2) This is the first step to multiple plugins at the same time which could lead to 3) make core modular and load functionalities on demand 22.24.49 # ok cool, thanks for the explanation 22.24.54 # my motivation to work on this was mostly 1) as I would like to port flite which may have problems fitting in pluginbuf 22.25.05 # Hmm, the android SDK manager is confusing:\ 22.25.13 # Mir: Thanks, took your advice and now it works perfectly, and I have rockbox installed too 22.25.22 # Why can't it just update in one step? 22.26.04 # Hmm, is there an NDK update available/ required as well? 22.26.32 # The ndk is on r8 IIRC, but I think you can still use r5something 22.26.34 # bah, even ebay don't have any mips onda to offer 22.26.41 # * amiconn has r6 installed 22.27.15 # I updated my laptop's NDK to r8 recently because that's needed for MIPS, but that's not autobuilt yet 22.27.59 # OK, my client should be android-ready now 22.28.58 # trying the build again 22.29.02 # Hmmm 22.29.18 # Zagor: rbclient.pl r50 still only knows how to check for android30 22.29.34 Quit saratoga_ (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 22.29.38 # And that's the one my client runs, so possibly it should get a push? 22.30.03 # I'll push it 22.31.07 # hmm uk amazon has 3 ondas vx747 left 22.32.13 # maybe we should buy it 22.32.54 # Zagor: updated. 22.33.07 # amiconn: great 22.34.56 # wodz: sounds like a good idea to me 22.35.34 # 2f1da04 build result: All green 22.35.40 # whee 22.35.51 # It would be easier to buy for UK guys I think 22.36.20 # ...and my client right got an android build as the first one in this round... 22.37.13 # wodz: maybe an email to -committers? 22.38.42 # wodz: Can I help? 22.39.14 # those aren't vx747's, but the successor to it, right? 22.39.33 # http://www.amazon.co.uk/8GB-Touch-Screen-MP4-player/dp/B001A542WQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1340829378&sr=8-1 22.39.45 # this is pretty much described as mips vx747 22.40.58 # hmm maybe not 22.41.00 # bummer 22.42.14 # I know next to nothing about this targets 22.42.18 # whats an mp3 player that isnt stable on rockbox that i could get for under $30? 22.42.46 # No idea, search amazon etc. 22.42.54 # Then compare to rockbox.org 22.43.08 # I can't think of any 22.43.11 # okay 22.43.42 # maybe a used m200v4, we never got rockbox running well on that 22.44.09 # AlexP: comparing to http://www.rockbox.org/wiki/OndaVX747 it seems be the same 22.44.22 Quit PwnsomeWin (Quit: CGI:IRC) 22.44.47 # wodz: Sorry, I meant PwnsomeWin :) 22.50.18 # mail sent 22.53.12 # Zagor: which cmd isnt found? 22.53.26 # I don't know, the log only says that line 22.54.41 Quit GermanMushroom (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) 22.55.19 # m200v4 is almost impossible to find 22.55.39 # but the clip+ sometimes goes for around 30 bucks on sale 22.59.09 # clip+ is stable, he's looking for not stable target 23.01.35 # why? 23.02.01 Join amiconn_ [0] (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 23.02.01 Quit amiconn (Disconnected by services) 23.02.03 Nick amiconn_ is now known as amiconn (amiconn@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 23.02.44 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 23.02.44 Join pixelma_ [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 23.02.46 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 23.06.33 # <[Saint]> Is there still a desperate need for Android build clients? 23.06.39 # <[Saint]> Or, clients in general? 23.06.53 # <[Saint]> I can have one up in 30 mins or so if its needed. 23.08.10 Join pixelma_ [0] (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 23.08.10 Quit pixelma (Disconnected by services) 23.08.12 Nick pixelma_ is now known as pixelma (pixelma@rockbox/staff/pixelma) 23.08.28 Quit amiconn (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) 23.08.29 # more clients are always welcome. the critical android need is filled for now though. 23.08.49 Join amiconn [0] (quassel@rockbox/developer/amiconn) 23.12.40 # ah' found the issue 23.13.39 Quit Wardo (Read error: Connection reset by peer) 23.23.19 *** Saving seen data "./dancer.seen" 23.23.37 # fixed 23.24.30 # Zagor: Perhaps it would be a good idea to make the build master send a message to the client regarding unknown entries in the archlist, together with the helo? 23.24.50 # yeah, sound like a good idea 23.26.00 # An a related matter, I wonder how difficult it would be to roll our own toolchain for N900 (using cross compilation) instead of the fiddly scratchbox 23.26.12 # s/An/on/ 23.26.39 # So is it possible to seperate songs from albums to listen to them later? 23.26.47 Quit liar (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) 23.26.57 # While on teh DAP, not the computer. 23.28.32 # amiconn: i assume 23.29.07 # Could anyone answer? 23.30.30 # amiconn: i assume it would be simple 23.30.56 # ct-ng can make it easy at least 23.34.51 # ? 23.36.00 Quit wodz (Quit: Leaving) 23.36.26 Quit Zagor (Quit: Leaving) 23.42.30 # <[Saint]> rocktriangle: sure, make a playlist. 23.44.41 Quit Rower85 (Quit: Hmmm...) 23.45.38 Join GermanMushroom [0] (~c@s5146db6a.adsl.wanadoo.nl) 23.47.47 Join XavierGr [0] (~xavier@rockbox/staff/XavierGr) 23.56.55 Quit kevku (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/)